Loved the intro and outro!! You’ve got some sweet helpers there. My oldest grandson (just turned 8) loves to spend time with me in my shop. He’s gradually being introduced to how to work my lathe and mill and the fine art of measuring and calculating. It’s always time well spent. Thanks for another great video!
I love seeing the grandkids. There is so much work involved and rehabbing a machines if possible to show it all I think other TH-camrs make it look so simple but I can appreciate how much work you’ve put into that. Keep on keeping on brother.
Hi Kimber, yes there is always a lot of work involved. The people who make it look trivial are somehow fake, and I think viewers with experience know that. Cheers
Coming along nicely Paul, it's no fun is it but you will thank yourself for the effort every time you use it in the future so well worth it. You could have avoided the whole colour match issue of course by painting it orange....... I'll quietly exit left now🤣🤣🏴
Like others, Your Mode Squad team made us all smile 🙂. Yes, I agree, the light fixture adds class to the machine. I was during the restoration of my grandfathers 1939 Delta scroll saw, that a viewer told me the lamp on it was Called a "Retirement Lamp". Maybe yours has a name too? Bear
Hi Paul. Your efforts have been well rewarded. The Herbert Surface Grinder looks great in the Admiralty “Battleship Grey”. Colour matching is fraught with danger. No swatch ever gives an accurate representation of the colour in the tin. I’ve been disappointed too many times. The tin of Paragon Myford Green I ordered differs so much to the existing paint. I’ve decided to leave the scuff marks on the lathe alone as touching them up would look awful. Your approach to repaint the entire machine is the best, and once done you won’t remember that the colour is less blue. A big pat on the back of your two workshop helpers. They are a delight. 👏👏👍😀
Best intro and outro I've seen in a while. :) I, too, am more interested in function over beauty. But I think my next lathe rebuild I might take it a step further and really make it as nice as I can.
What a couple of hams for helpers! ! ! ! :D I ran into something similar with painting a couple of parts on my Alba shaper. Like your grey it had more of a blue cast. I was working with Tremclad enamels so I had to mix the lighter grey than yours with some navy blue. Between the Navy Blue and a few drops of black I managed to get a close enough match for the parts. It's 20-20 hind sight at this point but I think a half or full teaspoon of navy blue might have done it for you as well.
HI Bruce, if did not help that my wife and I could not agree on the colour. I tend to defer to her on these matters but frankly this time ..... well I'd better not say. 😁 Cheers
Yes keep the lamp, back in the 70s a machine tool company in Coventry, i asked the maintainance electrician to fit a lamp so i could see into bores he wasn't keen, any way one Saturday morning he caught me tipping lamp up wards & wrapping a steak & kidney pie in foil it only took 15 mins to get hot he just shook his head so you needed it to look down bores!!
I believe the isolator on the pillar will have a means of padlocking the switch in the 'OFF" position. Having a means to electrically lock-off a machine in a home shop is not 100% necessary, but essential in workshop environment with several people for safety. I also believe in function over beautification, but your grinder was crying out for a facelift, looks like it was worth the effort to me (but I was not doing the prep) :)
Hi Paul, I find that scraping the paint off is very satisfying if I submit myself to it and don't set any timescale. If I try to rush it just causes me frustration and stress. Cheers
Hello Paul, Good progress on the grinder... wise thinking on the colour, I nearly drove myself crazy trying to match the colour on the little Emco Unimat SL' lathes... Take care. Paul,,
well done Paul, significant progress there now and I agree with you on the colour, it's near enough and once the machine is uniform in colour rather than the harlequin arrangement it had before I think it will look grand. I would also reuse the original lamp, it's a nice shape and matches the machine well. As for that switch - it's a switch and a half!
Hi Jason yes the switch is crazy. Just think about how much these things must have cost to produce. I scrapped the LO-VO transformer and there must have been 30 screws in it and washers and spring metal bits. It took me half an hour to salvage the bits. Cheers
Can't wait to see end result Paul. Looks like it will be a great machine. I agree with Jon's Workshop if you went with Orange the blue shade wouldn't be an dilemma 😉 Lookin good so far
Great job on the spindle overhaul, nice stiff grease NLGI 2 or 3 should do the job, guessing its going to run at about 2800 rpm; with stiff, or hard greases, the grease looks like its doing nothing, but the heat just softens sufficient when needed, as opposed to soft grease where rollers are constantly pushing it out of the way. SKF has excellent information on bearings and of course lubrication, so does ABB ref electric motors division. Grand children look very happy, fair head of hair on the one young lady👍. Yes, as other subscribers have commented, its a machinery directive have a local lockable isolator for machine tools, as close as possible, or where not, a label indicating where. That isolator is certainly not machine specific 😳 😅, but looks great as you say, and it should be coloured red ( current code is red switch on yellow circle ISO EU/UK). Paint colour looks good, close match to your other machine tools, as others have wrote, the correct number of machines, gadgets etc is n+1. Thanks for sharing. Best regards John
Hi John, yes the motor is 2-pole 2800 rpm. 1/2 horse. Not sure why it has to be so big but it will be continuously rated at jungle temperatures no doubt - global warming ready. Cheers
Looking even better Paul, if i am not spraying paint, which is my usual method, i use brush and a small roller for machines, much quicker, but i agree with you, cleanup and flatting prep is tedious! Worth it in the end though. Good to know the tube is in right and all bearings will get a good grease supply! Phil
Despite your reservations about watching you paint, I am enjoying this series. Its a bit of renovation by proxy for me. I love restoring old machines but the down side is you do have to find somewhere for them to go afterwards, or face the remorse of selling them! I did wonder if Jones & Shipman surface grinder blue might have been a better match, but once you've got the paint, just use it!
Thanks for posting, enjoying the series, particularly as Haxby is my home town. For future reference, if you have a flat piece at least 3" by 5" try Parry's Paints on Clifton Moor at the back of Tesco's (used to be called AE Motor Colours). Most branches have a spectrophotometer and can generate the BS or RAL code from the existing paint. They do a plant paint range called Agrisheen and I have had good results with that.
Hi Andrew, I could have taken that contactor cover to Parry's - I have been there once in the past quite some years ago. I was quietly confident about the colour on the assumption it was a BS381 colour and from what people had said. Anyway next time I'll make the effort and go the 2 miles .... Cheers
Happy New Year Paul. The grinder is coming along well, you won't regret the time spent when it's finished. With regards to the light refurbishment, you mentioned putting a LED driver in the base, I assume that will be a low voltage SELV driver, as you would have with some types of bathroom lights. If its going to be 230V you will need to make sure it is correctly earthed. Much safer to have the low voltage.
Hi Paul, that looks really great it really does. I hope the gaitors clean up as well. The colour looks perfect to me. Great intro and outro, you can tell they like being with you and being part of the videos!! Now for the small one, a little story. Down here in Spain we don't have the tooth fairy, instead we have Ratoncito Perez, who is that she might ask? Well in Spanish we have Rata = Rat Raton = Mouse Ratoncito = Little Mouse So a little mouse comes to collect the teeth and leave a little something!! All the best!!
Yeh the light was a bonus but there was a fair bit of work to make the adjustable arm sections rigid. The originals were very cheap and twisty, I had to stiffen them up. Will show more later. Cheers
Hi Graedon, on the end of Part 3 I showed a 'mystery machine', basically asking people if they knew what it was. I've got a partial answer now, but still hope a bit more info will come in before I share with all. Cheers
looking good. Be interesting to hear your thoughts on the mag chuck. I replace mine with a smaller one as the machine cannot clean up the whole surface of the original one. Seemed a strange decision to me to put a chuck on bigger than the capacity of the machine?
Is it possible to have the paint shop add some more color to the can you have? Looking at your parts, someone with a good eye can tell you which to add and help you sneak up on it. The original lamp is the right way to go!
Out of my own paranoia, I can't bring myself to install new un-sealed bearings without oiling / greasing them first. Spindle bearings are so expensive!
The granddaughters always make me laugh! cheers.
They are a colourful pair. Sisters, but very different in character. Cheers
I loved the intro with the grandchildren. So cute.
The paint looks good to me. Much better then the many colours on the machine when received.
Dave.
Thank you Dave, you may see them again on the next one. Cheers
Loved the intro and outro!! You’ve got some sweet helpers there. My oldest grandson (just turned 8) loves to spend time with me in my shop. He’s gradually being introduced to how to work my lathe and mill and the fine art of measuring and calculating. It’s always time well spent. Thanks for another great video!
Hi Russell, it's great being able to teach something, and rewarding if they are interested. They will remember for ever. I know I do. Cheers
I love seeing the grandkids. There is so much work involved and rehabbing a machines if possible to show it all I think other TH-camrs make it look so simple but I can appreciate how much work you’ve put into that. Keep on keeping on brother.
Hi Kimber, yes there is always a lot of work involved. The people who make it look trivial are somehow fake, and I think viewers with experience know that. Cheers
Coming along nicely Paul, it's no fun is it but you will thank yourself for the effort every time you use it in the future so well worth it. You could have avoided the whole colour match issue of course by painting it orange....... I'll quietly exit left now🤣🤣🏴
Hi Jon, noting wrong with bold. Your shaper is a lovely orange. I would not knock it. Thanks for watching mate. Cheers
BIG LOL, glad to see you brought in good help. Keep up the good work....
Well certainly entertainment, not so sure about help exactly. 🤣
Those girls are absolutely precious!
Yes indeed. Thank you. Still generally at the uncomplicated, un-stressed stage. Cheers
*_WOW. it's looking like a new machine. I can't wait to see this in operation._*
Hi Opie, yes well restoration is one thing and getting good results is another. Time will tell. Cheers
I also think the color is close enough. It matches very well the shaper and other equipement.
And a thump's up for your cheerleaders :)
Thank you 👍
Grandkids are a brilliant addition to the crew, love it.
A little dark blue tint in that paint will bring to blue out on the top coat.
Hiya, I do have a plan to improve the paint colour and I'll share it if it works, but shush 🤫for now. 😉 Cheers
Good color choice. Thx for the vid.
Yeh, I wish I could have got the colour closer. Never mind. Cheers
Like others, Your Mode Squad team made us all smile 🙂. Yes, I agree, the light fixture adds class to the machine. I was during the restoration of my grandfathers 1939 Delta scroll saw, that a viewer told me the lamp on it was Called a "Retirement Lamp". Maybe yours has a name too? Bear
A retirement lamp Bear 😁🤣? Well I suppose I like old things - for nostalgia. Add character. Cheers
Great video. Enjoy your causal presentation style. Thank you.
Hi Roy, got to be relaxed. Some things go well and some don't and no point trying to put on a fake show. That's not real life. Cheers
Your grinders starting to look good in the new gray paint. Cheers Tony
Hi Tony, I'm still fretting that I did not get the colour quite right. Cheers
Hi Paul. Your efforts have been well rewarded. The Herbert Surface Grinder looks great in the Admiralty “Battleship Grey”. Colour matching is fraught with danger. No swatch ever gives an accurate representation of the colour in the tin. I’ve been disappointed too many times. The tin of Paragon Myford Green I ordered differs so much to the existing paint. I’ve decided to leave the scuff marks on the lathe alone as touching them up would look awful.
Your approach to repaint the entire machine is the best, and once done you won’t remember that the colour is less blue.
A big pat on the back of your two workshop helpers. They are a delight. 👏👏👍😀
Hi Andrew, the two helpers are purely ornamental. They would not take kindly to being asked to do any work. Cheers
@@HaxbyShed Oh I don’t believe you 😂
Best intro and outro I've seen in a while. :) I, too, am more interested in function over beauty. But I think my next lathe rebuild I might take it a step further and really make it as nice as I can.
Hi Greg, catching grand children at the right time and in the right mood for an intro is a bit down to chance but when it works it's nice. Cheers
What a couple of hams for helpers! ! ! ! :D I ran into something similar with painting a couple of parts on my Alba shaper. Like your grey it had more of a blue cast. I was working with Tremclad enamels so I had to mix the lighter grey than yours with some navy blue. Between the Navy Blue and a few drops of black I managed to get a close enough match for the parts. It's 20-20 hind sight at this point but I think a half or full teaspoon of navy blue might have done it for you as well.
HI Bruce, if did not help that my wife and I could not agree on the colour. I tend to defer to her on these matters but frankly this time ..... well I'd better not say. 😁 Cheers
lil' hollywood she is, full action.
Yes Pushyhog, the little on is an absolute nut case. 🤣Cheers
Yes keep the lamp, back in the 70s a machine tool company in Coventry, i asked the maintainance electrician to fit a lamp so i could see into bores he wasn't keen, any way one Saturday morning he caught me tipping lamp up wards & wrapping a steak & kidney pie in foil it only took 15 mins to get hot he just shook his head so you needed it to look down bores!!
Grahame, it would need a big LED to warm up a steak pie. The down side of progress 🤣😁
I believe the isolator on the pillar will have a means of padlocking the switch in the 'OFF" position. Having a means to electrically lock-off a machine in a home shop is not 100% necessary, but essential in workshop environment with several people for safety. I also believe in function over beautification, but your grinder was crying out for a facelift, looks like it was worth the effort to me (but I was not doing the prep) :)
Spot on, machinery directive on machine tools.
Hi Paul, I find that scraping the paint off is very satisfying if I submit myself to it and don't set any timescale. If I try to rush it just causes me frustration and stress. Cheers
Those young ladies are adorable.
Thanks Robert. Inherited genes. 🤣 Cheers
Paul, you're not far away from having some sanding helpers! BTW You'll love the surface grinder...don't forget the letters...😊.
Oh yeh, I never thought about painting the letters but maybe I will. Cheers
Hello Paul,
Good progress on the grinder... wise thinking on the colour, I nearly drove myself crazy trying to match the colour on the little Emco Unimat SL' lathes...
Take care.
Paul,,
Hi Paul. I hope the hip(s) doing ok. Cheers
Looks pretty good to me great intro 👍👍👍👍
Thanks Steve. 👍
well done Paul, significant progress there now and I agree with you on the colour, it's near enough and once the machine is uniform in colour rather than the harlequin arrangement it had before I think it will look grand. I would also reuse the original lamp, it's a nice shape and matches the machine well. As for that switch - it's a switch and a half!
Hi Jason yes the switch is crazy. Just think about how much these things must have cost to produce. I scrapped the LO-VO transformer and there must have been 30 screws in it and washers and spring metal bits. It took me half an hour to salvage the bits. Cheers
Can't wait to see end result Paul. Looks like it will be a great machine. I agree with Jon's Workshop if you went with Orange the blue shade wouldn't be an dilemma 😉 Lookin good so far
Orange looks good with blue 😁
Great job on the spindle overhaul, nice stiff grease NLGI 2 or 3 should do the job, guessing its going to run at about 2800 rpm; with stiff, or hard greases, the grease looks like its doing nothing, but the heat just softens sufficient when needed, as opposed to soft grease where rollers are constantly pushing it out of the way. SKF has excellent information on bearings and of course lubrication, so does ABB ref electric motors division.
Grand children look very happy, fair head of hair on the one young lady👍.
Yes, as other subscribers have commented, its a machinery directive have a local lockable isolator for machine tools, as close as possible, or where not, a label indicating where. That isolator is certainly not machine specific 😳 😅, but looks great as you say, and it should be coloured red ( current code is red switch on yellow circle ISO EU/UK).
Paint colour looks good, close match to your other machine tools, as others have wrote, the correct number of machines, gadgets etc is n+1.
Thanks for sharing.
Best regards John
Hi John, yes the motor is 2-pole 2800 rpm. 1/2 horse. Not sure why it has to be so big but it will be continuously rated at jungle temperatures no doubt - global warming ready. Cheers
Looking even better Paul, if i am not spraying paint, which is my usual method, i use brush and a small roller for machines, much quicker, but i agree with you, cleanup and flatting prep is tedious! Worth it in the end though. Good to know the tube is in right and all bearings will get a good grease supply!
Phil
Thanks Phil. Cheers
Despite your reservations about watching you paint, I am enjoying this series. Its a bit of renovation by proxy for me. I love restoring old machines but the down side is you do have to find somewhere for them to go afterwards, or face the remorse of selling them!
I did wonder if Jones & Shipman surface grinder blue might have been a better match, but once you've got the paint, just use it!
Hi Robert, from my side the series seems quite long going on a bit but people seem ok with that and it is what it is. True to life. Cheers
Thanks for posting, enjoying the series, particularly as Haxby is my home town. For future reference, if you have a flat piece at least 3" by 5" try Parry's Paints on Clifton Moor at the back of Tesco's (used to be called AE Motor Colours). Most branches have a spectrophotometer and can generate the BS or RAL code from the existing paint. They do a plant paint range called Agrisheen and I have had good results with that.
Hi Andrew, I could have taken that contactor cover to Parry's - I have been there once in the past quite some years ago. I was quietly confident about the colour on the assumption it was a BS381 colour and from what people had said. Anyway next time I'll make the effort and go the 2 miles .... Cheers
Good one !!
Thanks Alan. 👍
Happy New Year Paul. The grinder is coming along well, you won't regret the time spent when it's finished.
With regards to the light refurbishment, you mentioned putting a LED driver in the base, I assume that will be a low voltage SELV driver, as you would have with some types of bathroom lights. If its going to be 230V you will need to make sure it is correctly earthed. Much safer to have the low voltage.
Hi Bill, yes it is a 240v in / 12v out driver. The lamp is LV. Cheers
Hi Paul, that looks really great it really does. I hope the gaitors clean up as well. The colour looks perfect to me.
Great intro and outro, you can tell they like being with you and being part of the videos!!
Now for the small one, a little story. Down here in Spain we don't have the tooth fairy, instead we have Ratoncito Perez, who is that she might ask?
Well in Spanish we have
Rata = Rat
Raton = Mouse
Ratoncito = Little Mouse
So a little mouse comes to collect the teeth and leave a little something!!
All the best!!
Hi David I think they do a bit of Spanish at school so I'll ask them about the Little Mouse. 😁
good video paul
Thank you 👍
Great progress. The original light is cool, our machine did not come with a light. It seems like it is very hard to match colours
Yeh the light was a bonus but there was a fair bit of work to make the adjustable arm sections rigid. The originals were very cheap and twisty, I had to stiffen them up. Will show more later. Cheers
Nice one Paul . Would Harrison Blue Grey go close ? Cheers .
Maybe Max. It's £25 (48AUD) a try so I'm a bit reluctant. But a plan may be developing ..... I'll say if it does. Cheers
Paul,,, what was the mystery machine??? did i miss it?
Hi Graedon, on the end of Part 3 I showed a 'mystery machine', basically asking people if they knew what it was. I've got a partial answer now, but still hope a bit more info will come in before I share with all. Cheers
looking good. Be interesting to hear your thoughts on the mag chuck. I replace mine with a smaller one as the machine cannot clean up the whole surface of the original one. Seemed a strange decision to me to put a chuck on bigger than the capacity of the machine?
I will measure it soon. It's on the floor by the machine but when I'm in there I don't think of it. Cheers
Is it possible to have the paint shop add some more color to the can you have? Looking at your parts, someone with a good eye can tell you which to add and help you sneak up on it.
The original lamp is the right way to go!
Hi Selden, there may be a development on the paint .... I'll share if it works out. Cheers
Out of my own paranoia, I can't bring myself to install new un-sealed bearings without oiling / greasing them first. Spindle bearings are so expensive!
Indeed, but I wanted to see the difference before and after greasing. If they have to come out again it's a mess is they are all greased up. Cheers
I wouldn't get too hung up about the colour, as long as it's sumat like, it ill be reight. how it functions is more important.
Hi Paul, true indeed but I am still a bit 'unsettled' about the mis-colour. Not logical, but that's people for you. Cheers.
Hey there hexby shed how are you doing wanted to ask you do you got any flags from where your at you can send me or no
Sorry Mason, I don't. Cheers