WHY ZMAN products MELT?!?! | B Fishing |
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- We are going to take a look at why your #Zman #ElaZtech products melt in your tackle box and how to avoid it from happening again.
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Na I’ve never took my zman stuff out of their packaging or anything like that. I’m to cheap to be wasting money like that lol. Nice video man 👍🏻
Smart
The big tournament I won, every Bass was caught on the exact same TRD all day long!!!
There are levels to ned fishing. You could just use a regular trd but sometimes they want appendages.
@@B_the_Cameraman agreed, I have yet to catch a fish on the little zman craw but I did catch a ton one day on the sukoshi 10,000 fish in a craw color cant remember how many but it was a ton between the little smallies and red eye bass
@@BASSnBEER that is the kind of stuff that drives me crazy. How can such a subtle change make a night and day difference. Fishing is dumb. Lol
Last week I used a DOA paddletail on an underspin for 4 days, caught at least 30 off that one lure. Dark Sleepers and chatterbaits are my other 2 that I keep on a 3 rod rotation...river kayak fishing.
Bahaha it wasn't me I swear but "ding dong" made me LOL!
This is why zman products are my favorite in a way, due to the fact they like soaking in "contaminents", they are really good at soaking Procure scents.
Well done. I never knew so many people thought temp was the cause of the Z-man meltdown. I guess I gave too many too much credit. But like I said to B-lat. You can store Z-man in one specific storage box and never have any issue. I have had them in a brand new Plano and noticed warping of the lid and a wave start in the deviders. However Bass Mafia storage boxes do not react with Elaztech or stretchX. Thats what I personally have used for years now.
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I have seen the stuff destroy some hard plastics and clear coats on things like rooster tails too. The heat does have a effect, it accelerates the reaction. General rule of thumb is keep Zman stuff isolated from just about everything.
Look up Flambeau K Series boxes that are made from styrene butadiene copolymer, which doesn't react to Elaztech.
I work for Z-Man and just leave them in the bag they come in y’all. All of our plastics sit in a warehouse at 120 degrees in the middle of the summer
👆 what he said
I keep all my elaztech in ziploc. Never a problem.
Sorry to hear you don't like my products😥
Glad it only took one Zman craw fusing to itself in my box on a cool morning for me to realize.
I bank fish and pack pretty light, but I guess with the Zman stuff I'll just store separately.
Ok I had my senkos mixed up and now I know. I bought some Z man sticks and didn't even consider why I had a block of nasty wasted baits. Who the hell reads the package especially fine print on the back.......ding dong!!!
What your seeing is something that's called plasticizer migration. The plasticizers in the plastic worm react to the plasticizers in the other worm or storage case. Causing them to get softer or melt. I did a lot of testing at work because we were selling soft pvc balls that people were storing on wood floors or wood desks that were finished with a poly coating. over time they were leaving whiteish rings or spots where the ball was sitting because the 2 plastics reacted with each other
I didn't have all the detail but I could tell it was drawing it out during the reaction. Very cool.
Thank you now I know what happened in my truck I thought it was my kids that left a cran in and molded my box it all good now took forever to get all clean up keep up the good work thanks 👍
I've swapped to DOA paddletails, tougher than most and don't melt. I had 2 packs of Zman stuff(Gremlin and lizards) in the original packs in the top zipped pouch of a soft kayak tackle box melt.
My brother my two grandsons went out on Shasta Lake using the Ned rig Trd green pumpkin card 100 small mouth spotted bass three small mouth bass what a wonderful time we have keep your lines tight
My solution to Z Man melting other plastics is to keep them in their bags. I put all my different Z Man shrimp together in the same bag and mix different models but I put them back in a Z Man bag.
I remember when I was a kid that certain soft plastics would melt together. Specifically my dad's Culprit worms would melt together with other plastics but it happened to lots of my lures too until I learned to not mix them.
So can you put them in a plastic container if they are kept in the original packaging?
I put a selection of Zman baits in a regular new, never-used Plano tray and never had a problem. After two years there's no sign of damage to either the baits or the box. In a kayak, it's just kind of handy to carry a day's worth of plastics instead of hauling all the Zman baits I own in dozens of original bags.
I agree and you will never have a problem as long as it is a new never used box. The issue only arises when z man products encounter other soft plastics or the worm oil from other soft plastics
Thanks buddy for the great video my friend
Do you throw rigged up Zman plastics back into the original bag as well?
Hm, okay ... Well, it's not entirely true that they don't melt at high temperatures in a car. I had a bag with several Z-man baits in their original packs in the car last summer, and yet they are warped by the heat. The Bugz were distorted and unusable, as was the finesse trd that stuck together .... Eric
Their melting point is lower than traditional soft plastics. Traditional soft plastics start melting at around 250 and at 350 are liquid. Zman starts at 175 ish - 250. So it is possible that your car got that hot or close.
Agreed. I've had the trd's melt together or warp sitting in their packaging on the deck of my boat here in AZ. I could separate some of the ones melted together but they were so deformed you couldn't use them.
Yea i agree i just dont think they are worth the pain and ive caught fish with then i like how they work but they are also a bitch to get on certain hooks with trailer keepers
learned about it before they put warnings on the packages at least i did not ruin alot of baits it will even warp the box if you leave it in there long enough
Great video, I put my plastics in the Bass mafia money bag
Great informative video young man !! I keep my Z-Man creatures in their origonal packaging in the packaging ! Brian Latimer had a video on about storing your plastics !! He talked about the chemical reaction between regular plastics, and Z-Man products awhile back !!
Thank y'all !!
I keep up with b lat. I just must have missed it.
@@B_the_Cameraman it was a PLANO storage video, but he talked about the elasto-tech and plastics chemical glob of goo that you'll end up with !! 😁😉✌
@@B_the_Cameraman the video was called SOFT PLASTIC STORAGE about 2 months ago !!
I learned this the hard way , my cousin gave me one of these Zman lures & not knowing it would melt I put it in with my other lures & it made a mess .
One of the reasons i dont buy any z man plastics anymore they melt and are extremely annoying to put on just not worth the small benefits for such a pain in the ass
I accidentally stored a z man craw dad, still hooked and next to a frog , and a sink, it ruined the crawdad and barley ruined the other lures, but I got the melted slime all over my hands, if it has a chemical reaction to you're lures would it be harmful to humans by getting that swine all over you're hands?
You got my sub btw
Damn I feel stupid now. I’m in Iowa and it was 100 degrees so I for sure thought it was heat but I had them in a box with rattling neds and they literally absorbed the neds thank you for the clarification!!!
What is "Worm Uhl?" :) Just teasing - I'm from the south but apparently not deep enough south! Thanks for posting this, I was wondering this exact thing
The lure lock tackle boxes store the zman plastics fine for me. I have regular plastics and zman plastics, they never touch but their in the same box.
Get two Big key rings and connect all the bottom of the Zman packs together
I keep all my plastic baits in a bag made for storing them and I keep the baits in there original packaging, And have never had a problem with them melting, Even in a hot car, or in my kayak out in the sun,it was a good investment.
Yep. Good call
So it is safe to leave it out like on a chatterbait right? Just not with other soft plastics.
"It started taking the shape of the worm." Invasion of the bait snatchers? ;-)
I see another fishing challenge Z-man and other soft plastic morphed bait Challange
Bingo
this pissed me off they melted 4 of my megabass dark sleepers😂
It's just common sense. Nobody bothers to read the warnings or written notifications. Probably they are so use to seeing those labels that say "Do Not Eat or Keep Away From Children" or "This Product Is Know To Cause Cancer"
Yep, that or some Chicken Little sky is falling Proposition out of California where everything in the world causes cancer.
Made that mistake once then read the package and now I hardly take any soft plastic out of the original packaging. All that's in my boxes is my jigs and trailers and my hard baits
It has happened to all of us.
Guilty. Thanks for the correction.
Interesting 🤔
First off Asif you touched that mess with bare hands, second what you got against Canada .... LOL... For real tho, good vid all around.
Only thing I have against canada is it is too cold. 🤣 Appreciate it my man. 👊
Ooh!
I have probably caught 30+ black rockfish on one 4" Minnowz.
Zman elaztech lasts super long. Very durable.
@@B_the_Cameraman, yeah, they're totally awesome. I'm a huge fan.
No probe with Z Man products i read the labels on every thing I use before using it.
That is the way to do it
Have you tried a re melt with elaztech? Might make a good video if you haven't already tried
I have a feeling it will not work out but I will give it a go.
It's not a hot injection material
I just had this happen to me... 🤦🏼♂️🙃
It has happened to us all. 👊
Great informative video definitely learned something new!!!
Mid 50's are the high ?!? That's warm it's April in mi and warm in the 50's
Simple dont leave them out in the sun or dont put them with other baits
Listen, I get it. Nonetheless, who keeps their bait in the original bags? It is just plain out of congruence with the way of a fisherman on the go and needing to consolidate space and access. I am not one to carry a ton of bags around because I carry a lot of gear on my Kayak and need to be as streamlined as possible. I ordered quite. bit of Zman product in response to a few reviews and wanting to explore some new bait options. Yep, it happened to me too. I was shocked, thought at first a melt but then my inquiring mind saw something that just did not make sense. Now, I do not carry cheap gear, I have an entire set up of buzbee boxes and the Zman bait HATE buzbee from a deterioration and morphing perspective. I work in medicine, run a medical practice, so I'm keen to science, understand it well, enjoy practicing medicine etc....I am actually more intrigued and appreciative of Zman now that I realize they have put a ton of research into their product. With that said, it has nothing to do with the consumer complaining, being ill advised or uneducated, it has everything to do with their marketing, their education, and their package branding. Fisherman are fisherman, not scientists. We don't think too deep on this stuff, well at least most the fisherman I run with. Most of us are old school, even the "bright" ones. Now, I truly appreciate the feedback and the review it was extremely helpful and I gave a thumbs up and will be looking for a ZMAN approved container. But.....here it comes, its not about the consumer, my friend. Rule number one of product development and customer satisfaction, its about the customer so ZMAN, do what you must to ensure your client base are prepped, know your people, know your market....fisherman.....all walks, and most of all, a wiiiiiiide range of smarts on the scale of zero (to) smarts.
that is weird
There is better baits don't use