Why did TH-cam recommend this to me? A few minutes in, and you all admit that you didn't watch the opening ceremony? I did, granted I fast forwarded a lot of the slower bits since only noobs watch live. In context, this tableaux or whatever they called it obviously evoked an ancient Greek bacchanal or something. Turns out it was a specific reference to Dionysus, the Greek god of wine so I pretty much got the reference. Now, in the following days it's suddenly a reference to "The Last Supper"? Talk about searching for something to be offended about. Yeesh.
resp. roman Bacchus, and what might have Leonardo imagined, resp. had satisfied his customer because that was more important as what is to see that the scumbag could see himself as a holy one.
Perhaps TH-cam is trying to help you escape whatever echo chamber you’ve lodged your algorithm into. In an attempt to diversify your thought so you can contribute meaningful thoughts to the world.
@@tessabowers3496 I think that’s a fairly ridiculous simplification of religion, particularly one as open as Christianity in this context. Sure there are many religious people who fit into what you’re hinting at, but I think the gentlemen in this video aren’t as they are openly discussing sensitive topics and sharing their opinions with any and all audiences. My issue with the above comment is that he is implying it shouldn’t have showed up into is recommended AT ALL, indicating he would prefer to have not seen, hence the echo chamber. Where foreign or differing opinions don’t exist, I would argue for Christians, it is quite the contrary as most Christians actively question and continue to discuss the meanings of their holy text, hence bible study or bible discussions. I would not classify this as an echo chamber. Hoping TH-cam doesn’t show stuff you’d be bothered by so you only see things you agree with is an echo chamber.
@@ronan9804why don't you or the channel hosts that liked your comment respond to the substance of the criticism? This is a historically ignorant and uninformed (they didn't watch the ceremony) opinion. It has superficial overlap with the last supper but has nothing to do with mocking Christians.
I don’t know why any religion is off limits from parody or pop culture adaptation. The drag queens didn’t persecute you or Christianity as a whole. They reenacted a painting of “the last supper” pretty sure Jesus and his apostles didn’t sit on one side of a long table for the Passover Seder. Just be secure in your faith and be cool. Jesus said love thy neighbor, and pay no mind to those who would make fun of you or your faith, AKA, turn the other cheek.
@@richardbug3094French people famously have this attitude with Islam. Also this is a reference to the art that inspired the last supper and the Greek myths that are also part of Olympic history. Not a reference to the last supper. It's a reference to Bacchus and the traditional depiction of Dionysus. But I'm sure you don't care and didn't know that.
@@richardbug3094 Do you remember Charlie Hebdo? It was a French newspaper that was a victim of a firebombing, a shooting, and a stabbing over their depictions of Muhammad...
While they should’ve been aware of how the imagery would have been perceived, didn’t the committee say it was a depiction of the feast of Dionysus? A completely different historic myth?
That’s the whole point, it’s poorly executed at best and gaslighting at its worst, the parallel is clear on its face. If you need to release a statement to clarify what it was intended to be then you are already wrong.
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis Nobody here is upset about The Olympics being obtuse. The Guys at Midnight's Edge have their panties in a bunch because the Olympics dated to chritisize their religion. Somehow I doubt they have any problems with the inherently blasphemous premise of Bayonetta. Could they be grifting 🤔
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis Bad communication isn't what the Guy's at Midnight's Edge are upset about. Their tin foil hat theory that the white horse is one of the four horseman of the apocalypse (where are the other three?) makes it clear just like the "woke" they're trying to be offended for clout.
It doesn't matter what the intent of the ceremony was.. by their own stupid rules if you perceive it as offensive, your feelings are valid and must be respected. The hypocrisy is palpable.
So the precious feeling of the Christians should be protected just because they believe in the supernatural? I seriously doubt you would care if a Muslim was offended by an episode of South Park or Family Guy.
So you are upset because we are offended, or that we shared our opinion? If you disagree then give me something to work with make an argument? Right now it just look like you are just name calling. But hey thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
The performance was entitled "La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine" ("The Last Supper on a Stage on the Seine"), so it absolutely references The Last Supper. And, if the trolls are so keen on a history lesson, they should perhaps review the story of the Trojan Horse.
Man it’s amazing how truth just cuts through the chaos! I hope you enjoyed the episode, thanks for jumping into the dumpster fire of our comments section.
Except it wasn't titled that, there was a news paper that called it that, but no one from the Olympics or the creators of the performance called it that
@@tessabowers3496 Except you're completely misinformed, as two of the participants have gone on to confirm that it absolutely was a depiction of the Last Supper. Barbara Butch later deleted her Instagram post, but Piche's comments in La Parisien are there for all to read. The title was widely reported on Twitter, and several other publications.
@@soapmode bullshit... source? "widely reported on Twitter" 🤣🤣🤣 If buy publications you mean right wing rags sure. The part you fools miss because your uneducated, is that it was very obviously based on greek mythology.
@@tessabowers3496 Calling La Parisien a right wing rag whilst claiming to be educated; you're almost as funny as the palette swapped Santa in that idiotic performance 🥰
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis One thing that's very important to note is that Christian imagery borrows heavily from other sources. Especially artistic renderings. Y'know, like all art does. People call this blasphemy but said nothing when Jim Caviezel was struck by lightning twice during the filming of Passion. Clearly God has his opinions on what is and is not considered poor taste.
Philippe Katerine painted in blue to portray Dionysius makes grown men cry Because he’s chill, he says that’s good, that if we all had the same positive opinion there would be boredom on Earth, a new fascism.
lol two of us can read Ancient Greek, and you are correct it’s about you and the God of the universe you seem to be ok with mocking. We’re just here to help :) thanks for commenting!
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis He's the God of the universe. If He thought He was being mocked, wouldn't he have just dropped a lightning bolt on the whole display? Made their river run red with blood? Maybe a swarm of locusts and some first born infanticide? He doesn't need you fighting His battles for Him.
This video showed up in my recommended. While I don't have the time to watch this, I do think that all religions should be respected as long as the doctrine promotes peace. As an agnostic, whenever people mock religions like this, it really rubs me the wrong way; it causes unnecessary tension between others. Don't fall for the division; stay united as a people.
You think Christianity promotes peace? Do you have ANY idea how many people have been slaughtered in Jesus's name? The Vatican aides and a better the Nazis. (Most members of the original NAZI party were Catholic) The terrorist mod that attacked our nations capital at Trump command were Christians.
Well they need to learn history for first. It's was feast of Dyoneses from ancient Greek stories. You could say that last supper painting is copying that feast. So history lessons would be great starts. And second is that who the fuck cares if your religion is mocked, it deserves it as do all religions. Adults thinking the stories and myths are real and true, that's worth of mockery. It doesn't matter if you get offended by it, so be it. Learn to grown up!
The fear of the lord is the beginning of Obedience. The Bible is all about obedience not morality. When Adam and Eve ate from the tree they became moral beings quote now they know the difference between god and evil end quote. The more I listened the more I realized you are trying to justify your prejudices by adopting an ideology that lets you hate people that are different.
I really appreciate what you had to say about people forgetting and disregarding the fact that our society was built on Judeo-Christian tradition and values. We need to continue to live out the gospel and speak the truth in love. "Not throwing stones at lost people" as you said, but standing for truth in our sphere of influence through catechising our children, leading our homes, and getting involved in our democratic process.
From the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli signed by John Adams, read in full on the senate floor and was unanimously recommended for ratification by the senate. "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
I don’t know why any religion is off limits from parody or pop culture adaptation. The drag queens didn’t persecute you or Christianity as a whole. They reenacted a painting of “the last supper” pretty sure Jesus and his apostles didn’t sit on one side of a long table for the Passover Seder. Just be secure in your faith and be cool. Jesus said love thy neighbor, and pay no mind to those who would make fun of you or your faith, AKA, turn the other cheek.
Why did TH-cam recommend this to me? A few minutes in, and you all admit that you didn't watch the opening ceremony? I did, granted I fast forwarded a lot of the slower bits since only noobs watch live. In context, this tableaux or whatever they called it obviously evoked an ancient Greek bacchanal or something. Turns out it was a specific reference to Dionysus, the Greek god of wine so I pretty much got the reference.
Now, in the following days it's suddenly a reference to "The Last Supper"? Talk about searching for something to be offended about. Yeesh.
resp. roman Bacchus,
and what might have Leonardo imagined, resp. had satisfied his customer because that was more important as what is to see that the scumbag could see himself as a holy one.
Perhaps TH-cam is trying to help you escape whatever echo chamber you’ve lodged your algorithm into. In an attempt to diversify your thought so you can contribute meaningful thoughts to the world.
@@ronan9804 yeah solving echo chambers with religion 🤣🤣
@@tessabowers3496 I think that’s a fairly ridiculous simplification of religion, particularly one as open as Christianity in this context. Sure there are many religious people who fit into what you’re hinting at, but I think the gentlemen in this video aren’t as they are openly discussing sensitive topics and sharing their opinions with any and all audiences. My issue with the above comment is that he is implying it shouldn’t have showed up into is recommended AT ALL, indicating he would prefer to have not seen, hence the echo chamber. Where foreign or differing opinions don’t exist, I would argue for Christians, it is quite the contrary as most Christians actively question and continue to discuss the meanings of their holy text, hence bible study or bible discussions. I would not classify this as an echo chamber.
Hoping TH-cam doesn’t show stuff you’d be bothered by so you only see things you agree with is an echo chamber.
@@ronan9804why don't you or the channel hosts that liked your comment respond to the substance of the criticism? This is a historically ignorant and uninformed (they didn't watch the ceremony) opinion. It has superficial overlap with the last supper but has nothing to do with mocking Christians.
I don’t know why any religion is off limits from parody or pop culture adaptation. The drag queens didn’t persecute you or Christianity as a whole. They reenacted a painting of “the last supper” pretty sure Jesus and his apostles didn’t sit on one side of a long table for the Passover Seder. Just be secure in your faith and be cool. Jesus said love thy neighbor, and pay no mind to those who would make fun of you or your faith, AKA, turn the other cheek.
Exactly. It's laughable
like to see you have this same attitude with islam
@@richardbug3094French people famously have this attitude with Islam. Also this is a reference to the art that inspired the last supper and the Greek myths that are also part of Olympic history. Not a reference to the last supper. It's a reference to Bacchus and the traditional depiction of Dionysus. But I'm sure you don't care and didn't know that.
@@richardbug3094 Do you remember Charlie Hebdo? It was a French newspaper that was a victim of a firebombing, a shooting, and a stabbing over their depictions of Muhammad...
@@richardbug3094 don’t worry I do have the same attitude
While they should’ve been aware of how the imagery would have been perceived, didn’t the committee say it was a depiction of the feast of Dionysus? A completely different historic myth?
They weren't dressed like or even posed like the people in the last supper.
That’s the whole point, it’s poorly executed at best and gaslighting at its worst, the parallel is clear on its face. If you need to release a statement to clarify what it was intended to be then you are already wrong.
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis Nobody here is upset about The Olympics being obtuse.
The Guys at Midnight's Edge have their panties in a bunch because the Olympics dated to chritisize their religion. Somehow I doubt they have any problems with the inherently blasphemous premise of Bayonetta.
Could they be grifting 🤔
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis No it wasn't poorly executed. You're just ignorant.
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis Bad communication isn't what the Guy's at Midnight's Edge are upset about.
Their tin foil hat theory that the white horse is one of the four horseman of the apocalypse (where are the other three?) makes it clear just like the "woke" they're trying to be offended for clout.
This was not a parody of the last supper. It was a reference to the feast of dionysis???
The parallel is clear on its face. If you need to release a statement to clarify what it was intended to be then you are already wrong.
It doesn't matter what the intent of the ceremony was.. by their own stupid rules if you perceive it as offensive, your feelings are valid and must be respected. The hypocrisy is palpable.
So the precious feeling of the Christians should be protected just because they believe in the supernatural?
I seriously doubt you would care if a Muslim was offended by an episode of South Park or Family Guy.
So you are upset because we are offended, or that we shared our opinion? If you disagree then give me something to work with make an argument? Right now it just look like you are just name calling. But hey thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
The performance was entitled "La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine" ("The Last Supper on a Stage on the Seine"), so it absolutely references The Last Supper. And, if the trolls are so keen on a history lesson, they should perhaps review the story of the Trojan Horse.
Man it’s amazing how truth just cuts through the chaos! I hope you enjoyed the episode, thanks for jumping into the dumpster fire of our comments section.
Except it wasn't titled that, there was a news paper that called it that, but no one from the Olympics or the creators of the performance called it that
@@tessabowers3496 Except you're completely misinformed, as two of the participants have gone on to confirm that it absolutely was a depiction of the Last Supper. Barbara Butch later deleted her Instagram post, but Piche's comments in La Parisien are there for all to read. The title was widely reported on Twitter, and several other publications.
@@soapmode bullshit... source? "widely reported on Twitter" 🤣🤣🤣 If buy publications you mean right wing rags sure. The part you fools miss because your uneducated, is that it was very obviously based on greek mythology.
@@tessabowers3496 Calling La Parisien a right wing rag whilst claiming to be educated; you're almost as funny as the palette swapped Santa in that idiotic performance 🥰
The Feast of Dionysus isn't The Last Supper. God, y'all REALLY wanna be oppressed.
Right, so glad the IOC cleared that up…
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis One thing that's very important to note is that Christian imagery borrows heavily from other sources. Especially artistic renderings. Y'know, like all art does.
People call this blasphemy but said nothing when Jim Caviezel was struck by lightning twice during the filming of Passion. Clearly God has his opinions on what is and is not considered poor taste.
Imagine if they “accidentally” made a mockery of Muhammad, or any other religious figure outside of Christianity. It would be chaos on a grand scale.
people mock Muhammad all the time. stop being a snowflake. The only reason you feel mocked is your own ignorance of other cultures
You mean like the French newspaper Charlie Hebdo famously did?
Philippe Katerine painted in blue to portray Dionysius makes grown men cry
Because he’s chill, he says that’s good, that if we all had the same positive opinion there would be boredom on Earth, a new fascism.
Why not make christian olympics where christians can go and out christian each other?
Modt of These self righteous crybabies didn't even watch the thing they're covering in this video.
Josh watched it live, the others saw the clips because they live in the US.
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis Then why does he have to keep explaining to them what happened?
They didn’t watch the whole ceremony so he is providing the context for the subject of the video.
no one here knows nothing about greek history or mythology whatsoever imagine thinking it's all about you that's crazy
lol two of us can read Ancient Greek, and you are correct it’s about you and the God of the universe you seem to be ok with mocking. We’re just here to help :) thanks for commenting!
Right, these people are juat weird..
Imagine thinking that this wasn't a slight of hand to try and mock religion by the disgusting hyper prog French
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis He's the God of the universe. If He thought He was being mocked, wouldn't he have just dropped a lightning bolt on the whole display? Made their river run red with blood? Maybe a swarm of locusts and some first born infanticide?
He doesn't need you fighting His battles for Him.
Tell us you are not ignorant, without telling us you are not! You can ignore God, but you will not be able to ignore his final judgment!
I listened to the first 10 seconds of this video and subscribed!
This video showed up in my recommended. While I don't have the time to watch this, I do think that all religions should be respected as long as the doctrine promotes peace. As an agnostic, whenever people mock religions like this, it really rubs me the wrong way; it causes unnecessary tension between others. Don't fall for the division; stay united as a people.
Or maybe don’t be such a huge wiener. They weren’t mocking Christianity, but if they were, so what?
You see all the evil Religion causes yet we should respect it?
You think Christianity promotes peace? Do you have ANY idea how many people have been slaughtered in Jesus's name? The Vatican aides and a better the Nazis. (Most members of the original NAZI party were Catholic)
The terrorist mod that attacked our nations capital at Trump command were Christians.
What a bunch of snowflakes lmao
Thanks for leaving a comment!
I didn’t know Jesus was blue
I see what you did there 🙃
Talk to your kids about sex!
This is a great episode. I think a lot of Christians are wondering what they can or should do to push back on this.
Probably move on from like it's never that serious 😅
Well they need to learn history for first. It's was feast of Dyoneses from ancient Greek stories.
You could say that last supper painting is copying that feast.
So history lessons would be great starts.
And second is that who the fuck cares if your religion is mocked, it deserves it as do all religions.
Adults thinking the stories and myths are real and true, that's worth of mockery.
It doesn't matter if you get offended by it, so be it. Learn to grown up!
@takoja507 I'd feel that way if those ceremonies weren't claiming to be "inclusive".
Or does 'inclusivity' somehow preclude honesty?
No one is forcing you to watch. Turn off the Olympics and put on the 700 Club or Sound of Freedom or something.
Yea I agree, I haven’t watched the Olympics since the opening ceremony’s. It still doesn’t change the fact that what they did was shameful.
An excellent conversation with really practical calls to action!
First Olympics in the "wait I'm offended era"
I think your channel avatar is AI generated, shame on you
It is, not sure why that is a bad thing.
The fear of the lord is the beginning of Obedience. The Bible is all about obedience not morality. When Adam and Eve ate from the tree they became moral beings quote now they know the difference between god and evil end quote. The more I listened the more I realized you are trying to justify your prejudices by adopting an ideology that lets you hate people that are different.
Fear? What is this stalinist Russia? Damn, your god must be terrible.
Cry about it
Podcasting is more fun.
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis then why is the podcast an hour of ya’ll crying about it?
Why do I have a feeling you watched about 3 minutes of it?
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis of course not, it was simply so entertaining and intellectually engaging that I couldn’t rip myself from the screen 😂😂😂
excellent episode gentleman!
I really appreciate what you had to say about people forgetting and disregarding the fact that our society was built on Judeo-Christian tradition and values. We need to continue to live out the gospel and speak the truth in love. "Not throwing stones at lost people" as you said, but standing for truth in our sphere of influence through catechising our children, leading our homes, and getting involved in our democratic process.
From the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli signed by John Adams, read in full on the senate floor and was unanimously recommended for ratification by the senate.
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
I don’t know why any religion is off limits from parody or pop culture adaptation. The drag queens didn’t persecute you or Christianity as a whole. They reenacted a painting of “the last supper” pretty sure Jesus and his apostles didn’t sit on one side of a long table for the Passover Seder. Just be secure in your faith and be cool. Jesus said love thy neighbor, and pay no mind to those who would make fun of you or your faith, AKA, turn the other cheek.
What did Anubis say?