I should add that I am NOT sponsored by Jeep. They have never provided me a vehicle, or a discount, or a single dollar to do the expeditions I have completed. We once filmed a short video segment together, and that has been the extent of our "involvement". I have no sponsorship or support of any kind from Jeep or FCA, I'm free to say and do what I want.
The Road Chose Me I have driven jeeps since 1986, and have never experienced any issues that couldn’t be fixed easily and cheaply, 2 cj7, 1 YJ, 3TJ, 2 JKU rubicons, and I now have a JLU rubicon. You are correct, driven in mostly stock form, nothing beats them. Most good North American vehicles can be driven of the showroom floor and taken across the country tomorrow, which I’ve done.
Thanks for the comment. They really have been great vehicles, and when I did a plant tour in Toledo it was really cool to see the hard working people who brought them to life!
Hey mate. Just started following you and loved Ur videos. Can you make one video or text me here about upgrading suspension before putting steel bullbar. I have got 2018 wrangler unlimited golden eagle. Want to put steel bullbar but don't want to spend on suspension. Is it good idea bcoz most dealers and workshop said no need to upgrade suspension but in forum some says it's important. Can u plz help me out. Cheers
LOL, you and I are opposites. You’re an Australian driving a Jeep, and I’m an American driving a FJ40 Land Cruiser. I still claim that Toyota makes the most reliable off-road vehicles. However, I must agree that Jeep’s win when it comes to capability, affordability, parts availability, and aftermarket support. Just a reproduction floor mat for my FJ40 costs $400. Great video, and yes, Jeep’s are good looking!
Toyota is pretty cool. But after I thought about it I realized that a tremendous amount of the off-road capabilities either come from a really expensive "TRD pro" level trim or from modifications. So I don't know how I feel about this now. I really wrote Jeep off when I was looking because of the fiat/chrysler reputation and was going to get a Tacoma or 4runner.(I'm in NA, Canada). But after some research a wrangler is probably a better choice by far factoring everything in.
@@onedankind8168 So Jeeps have built this reputation for being unreliable and requiring constant repairs. After owning two over a number of years and being around them I have my theory why Jeeps get this reputation. I have not seen Jeeps break down more than any other modern day vehicle. The reason the reputation of unreliability may have started is that a LOT of Jeep owners run their rigs hard, crawl things that most vehicles should not attempt or put themselves in situations where damage occurs. Its one of few communities where they upgrade their rigs to then take it out and bash on them. On the other end since the last decade I dont see Tacomas as being the bulletproof trucks that the Hilux made famous. Underfilled differentials, underpowered engines or under performing transmissions are common complaints I hear from my Taco friends.
OneDankind I think one way to think about it is Toyota is most reliable stock. Wranglers are most capable overall, and can be made to be more reliable by more easily making mods that reduce risks on the trail, etc.
@@richardlono1 I agree with you 100%. I never understood the mentality of people who take a perfectly good vehicle, sink a lot of money into it, and then purposely try to destroy it. I like jeeps for all the reason this video talks about, they are great vehicles and one of the few off-roaders you can still get in a manual, but I won't own one due to more than a few bad experiences I have had with the owners. This is a family friendly environment, so I will not voice my full opinion on them. Let's just say I drive I drive a Land Rover Discovery2 and the community is fantastic
David Moran I think the reliability thing is a matter of perspective due to the amount of jeeps that break due to extreme off-road conditions. Look up used jeeps, you will find tons with over 200k kms. Even 300k +. So general use it seems jeeps are pretty reliable too.
I love how your experience always trumps other people's hypothetical scenarios. Your experience speaks for itself and is why i follow your channel for advice. Thank you and keep up the good work 👍
As a South African Jeep owner- I think you are spot on. Many local people don't believe a Jeep is for Africa, and in some ways its not, EG on the ground parts availability. But if it hardly breaks? Is that an issue? Overloading is normally the death of many a decent vehicle, and the mentioned Cruisers and Landy's are better at load, no doub. Trick is to not lug excess stuff with you that you don't need, enjoy the journey and the experience and just do it.
I live in Strand, got a JKUL diesel, out of Maintenance plan, no problem with parts. Most items are available at Master Parts or Auto Zone. The only thing I buy at Jeep is Mopar brake pads. More than double the price of ATE, but no black deposit on rims. Timing belt and gaskets are available at Angri.
money isn't too big a concern for me, but how are toyota 4runners when it comes to part abundance? I hear toyota dominates the world so they must be common and have lots of parts available around the world. I'm thinking of buying a new 4runner
I can't give fine reasons why I drive a 40 year old Land Rover through both Europe and Africa, other than it makes me smile every time I drive it. It's slow, thirsty and cramped, and you probably let more dust and rain in than if you were standing outside, and the reliability is a bit pants, but I wouldn't trade it for the world. These vehicles all have our little stamp on them, a representation of our own personality. Don't get me wrong, it has some unbelievable design flaws, such as not having an actual fuel filter and having nowhere to put your arm against the door!
I have a series 2 Discovery, it has it's flaws (4.6 engine) but like you say, it puts a smile on my face every time I climb in and twist the key. It does everything I ask of it, looks good doing it, and I have to be a bit bonkers to drive it.
I absolutely agreed with all of your points...I own a 1998 Jeep TJ currently roaming around Cambodia’s back country with no roads and still going strong!!
Dan, your videos are great. I have a stock 2017 JKU Rubicon with some simple storage mods in the back, and I'm constantly amazed that the thing can comfortably travel 80mph on the interstate yet capably tackle off road trails. No issues 58,000 miles on the clock. Great vehicle for exploring.
I have a JK Rubicon and it is by far the best truck I have ever owned - granted yes coming from a Toyota i was hesitant getting it, i have had absolutely no worries or dramas since owning it 160,000km. I get a hard time from my mates saying that its unreliable etc. They have never owned one, I've modified mine similar to yours and I would definitely buy one again without hesitation, they are super reliable, capable and can mod them till the cows come home. Great choice of truck aye!
I recently found your TH-cam channel and am loving your story! I have a 2015 JKU that we named Clyde. It’s crazy how much my family loves our Jeep. Thanks for making these videos. I’m learning so much from you!
Thank you!!! For finally saying that Jeep IS reliable. I have been saying it for years that Wranglers are the most reliable vehicles on the planet. Hands down, nothing even comes close. I've had 8 Wranglers and never one single issue. No recalls. No failures. And I agree that people who claim their Jeeps break usually are doing something incredibly stupid and most of the time it's an aftermarket part that breaks, not the Jeep. Yet people will blame the Jeep for their own stupidity.
Just found this video, but spot on! I’ve had 5 wranglers, all abused, and all have been incredibly durable and reliable. Honestly, the reliability argument has come from exactly as you’ve said and other non-Jeep owners saying it over and over again. Excellent video and I take pretty much Jeep’s crossovers on the hardest trails we can find with success... Jeep is definitely definitely committed to making off-road machines! Cheers!
As a new JLRU owner, I am right there with you. My #1 reason for buying the jeep was cause for 20 years my wife has been saying she thought it would look good on me. Now that we are starting to overland with it, we are finding out the truth of your other points!
Wow!!! Haven't thought of driving the world in my 07 3.8L JKU Wrangler Rubicon. Maybe I will after I have run out of tracks in Australia. I agree with all of your reasons: very salient with my experiences. My JK has done 256000Kms (about 160000miles) and has been to pretty much every outback and desert track in Australia and it has NEVER let me down. It has a 2" lift, MT tyres, rear airbags, HD rear springs and that's about it. As stock as I could leave it. No bull bar or rear bars. Rarely use 4WD or diff lockers etc because it just gets me out of whatever situation without the need to use these "helpers". It truly is a remarkable beast. And I just love driving it. I have a skeleton roof rack that I carry extra gear. I tried tents, roof top tents and camper trailers but have settled with making a (quite comfortable) bed on the non driving side by removing the rear seats. That's it. I take 10 days of food and water in case of breakdown in addition to daily use, some tools and spares (oil, filters etc) and 2 spare tyres on rims, a 12V 60l fridge and that's about it.I make sure to do preventative maintenance before go and keep a good eye on what can wear over time. Love your posts and insights. You just don't need to take a lot of crap (even expensive) to get out and about.
I love my JL Rubicon. From the factory it is easily one of the most capable 4WDs available, especially for the price. Within the first month I took it on some of the gnarliest tracks I could remember, and it was just point-and-shoot , rarely even needing the front locker because of the front swaybar disconnect/flex. Most people spend 10s of thousands modifying other brands of 4WD to even keep up - in the process voiding their warranty or insurance to do so. Tired of how every other Aussie dismisses anything that isn't a Sandy Taupe 70 series cruiser.
Agreed on all these points Dan. I'm a dyed in the wool Toyota guy, but what I'm going to say right now is true for ANY vehicle. Many mods/"upgrades" that people put onto their vehicles, are in fact inferior quality (reliability) to the stock part they have replaced, and add to that, a lot of mods are done because they've seen that mod done on a bunch of vehicles in magazines, so think they need it too. I'm a strong proponent of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I've done mods to my vehicles, but the mods are always an upgrade - as good or better quality than stock, and if the stock part is working fine, why change it? This works for all brands. I strongly suspect that one of the reasons that jeeps have a poor reputation for reliability is cheap or poorly installed mods. I rarely see stock or close to stock jeeps fail.
Agreed. Or the aftermarket part simply moves the stresses to another factory part. Which then breaks because it was never designed for that stress in the first place. But driving style and vehicle sympathy are also a huge factor.
@@thebnicho Yeah I've seen that a lot. A great example is people putting uprated CV joints in and breaking the diff instead. There's a reason that manufacturers design weak points where they are. It's a LOT easier and cheaper to replace an outer CV in the middle of nowhere than a diff... also a lot smaller and lighter if you're going to be carrying parts. If you know what/where the "fuses" are on your vehicle, then you can be prepared.
I agree 100%! I started with my used '78 CJ-7 for my first car and now, many years and multiple Jeeps with no reliability issues later, I just bought my 2020 Unlimited. They're aren't for everyone but like the saying goes "Only in a Jeep"!
Thanks Dan, more great advice. I was listening to an overland podcast a while back that pretty much slated anything that wasn't a 200 series or a Mercedes GL; most of us simply haven't got that kind of money to spend on a vehicle. So much great advice here. I love your approach to overland travel, keep up the great work!
Totally agree. Have owned 6 Jeeps to date plus a few other 4wd's here and there. No complaints about my Jeeps at all. Travelled now around half of Australia in them. No problems whatsoever. Love their offroad and rugged character. Love that info is so readily avail for them online and parts are easy to get. Looking around the new 4wd segment, there is still nothing I would get that isn't a Jeep.
A lot of u.s. mail rural route contractors special order a right hand drive jeep, it's one of the very few vehicles with right hand drive made domestically.
I've been driving a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee since 2006 (180k miles) and that includes overlanding with it in the U.S. the past seven years. I do my own maintenance and excluding tires the most I've spent on any single repair was about $200. It's hands down the most reliable vehicle I've owned in 35 years. Proper maintenance and mechanical sympathy are the key to the longevity of any vehicle.
Couldn’t agree more! I off-road with a lot of Toyota drivers (who all drive newer vehicles than me) and I’m always saying my 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ might not be the most reliable, but it’s simple to work on, there is tons of online support and parts are DIRT CHEAP... perfect for an off-road toy on a budget
And those are all the reasons why I'd pick a Jeep. I'd like something with a little more space inside, but it's hard to argue with all the reasons you've mentioned! Edit: "Gotta look good doing it!" Love it :D
I started from Calgary when I drove up to Alaska and then down to Argentina! I lived there for a couple of years and I swing through from time to time these days
My addition to the list, but only because it applies directly to me. Helps build your following. I started following your blog back in the day because you were doing that trip in a Jeep. I cared a lot more about the Jeep than I did anything else. lol.
@@TheRoadChoseMe The only people who think Jeeps look good are the ones obsessed with form following function. but... I'm guilty of that, so I have to agree with you. :P
agree with the review 100%. I can speak from experience as I own a TJ Wrangler I bought new in 2005 that has travelled around over 200k and also own a late model 70 series twin cab Land Cruiser bought new in 2016, here in Australia. I kept the Jeep as handy having two vehicles, besides the resell price isnt much and I like it too much to part with. both vehicles are good but the amount of support and cheap parts on line for the Jeep is amazing. if anything the Wrangler is more capable off road and I havent had any reliability problems. I'm a gold prospector and both are used off road a lot
I totally agree with you. I own a 260K km 2012 Sahara, 3’’ lift on 33’, steel bumbers and after market lockers and towing and overland trailer. When people lift, they often don’t do it all, leaving the geometry wrong. Cost me a lot of self inflicted (wounds) repairs to learn that. That’s where the reliability thing comes into play. When it’s done properly, it’s trouble free.
50,000 miles on my '16 JKU Rubicon Hard Rock - none of those are commuter miles but rather as I have a company car these are almost all road trips (Quaran-Trips as of late). I am a big fan of regular maintenance and thus far the only issue has been a heater core replacement. The only modifications have been tailgate hinge upgrade, LED headlights, a better battery, Kargo Master hinge step, and window tint. Love it. I still see my 2003 TJ Rubicon that I sold driving around my town.
It’s good to hear about Jeep reliability. Just bought a Gladiator and I hope for longevity. Your videos are outstanding and enjoyable to watch! Keep up the good work!
I’ve owned 3 Grand Cherokees & 3 Wranglers: TJ, JK, & now JL. They’re very reliable - especially considering how people tend to beat on them. There’s a lot of bad information out there & my experience is better with Jeep than the one Toyota 4Runner that I owned.
I´ve found my 2008 JK Rubicon to be reliable, too. I´ve beaten on it pretty good over the years and it has taken us on many adventures. It is at 142k miles and runs like new, with never an engine problem. I´d take it anywhere with confidence. I won´t be selling it anytime soon, either. It is so good that when I bought my new JL Wrangler, I kept the old trusty JK. Great video, Dan!
I have enjoyed your Channel immensely and have enjoyed following your adventures since I first read about your North American trip a few years ago. The Jeep Overlanding Community needs someone like you to show the practicality, reliability and capability of the vehicle. Not everyone who owns a Jeep wants to smash rocks. Some of us want to see the world, explore, camp, hunt and fish. And I'm doing just that in a stock 2016 JKU wearing 32" A/T Tires. She has never let me down from Canada to Mexico, Atlantic to Pacific. Function over fashion!
Well, agreed to your points.. But.. I'll stick too my 89 mod MB G army ambulance (MB OM 617 engine). It's slower, wont't fit in a regular shipping container, might be more expensive (doubt it in the long run). But I've got a woodstove, vinyl record player, and room for my guitar, and my wife :)
Multiple Jeep Cherokee XJ and 1 TJ owner here. I can totally relate to everything said here. Plus the if you get a jeep with the 4.0 and AW4 transmission they're super reliable. I get a lot of snow in winter where I live so Jeep is all I'll ever own besides a truck to tow with.
I think I have seen the video to which you refer where the guy doesn't use the Rubi's lockers because it would just not be fair... Love your videos man!! ... You gotta look good doin' it... Perfect!
Great common sense video! All the same reasons I picked a short wheel base F-150. Super reliable, amazingly capable, affordable, available, modifiable, and every other "able" word you can think of. They build almost a million a year! For decades!
Great little video Dan. I couldn’t agree more with your reasoning. I have owned and driven both Toyota’s and Jeeps since I bought my first 4x4 in 1990 and put many miles on them. Too many people like to bash and put down what other people like. Apple vs Windows for instance. My 2012 JK has 100k on the clock has been on many difficult trails and long journeys, it’s towed trailers, been though extreme hot and cold conditions, been over many 12,000 foot plus passes and has never had a mechanical issue. Any working mechanical device needs it’s maintenance and should not be so modified that it is beyond the parameters of what it was originally engineered for. Do that and it will usually treat you well in return.
Very informative. Great video based on experience. Bought a 2018 JKU , 2 years ago, now has 32,000 miles and have had 0 issues with no visits to the dealership. My wife and I are in our early 60s and intend to still be driving it 20 plus years from now. It’s a keeper. I totally agree with all your points! Does the Jeep wave extend beyond North America ? 🖐🖐
I would add that they are relatively easy to fix as well. You don't have to take half the engine compartment apart to get to your starter. Not to mention the amount of support on TH-cam and forums; if you break anything, there's a dude out there who has done the same thing and made a how-to video about it
Great video keep them coming. I’m on my 4th Jeep. I had a 89 YJ and a 02 Tj, a 04 KJ that people laugh about them but that KJ went quite a few places. I have a 2000 XJ that has some issues but their getting resolved.
I drive an Isuzu VehiCross and I love it! However, I would never think of taking it across Africa or anywhere I didn't have access to parts. Your choice makes perfect sense and thank you for sharing your experience with everyone. Besides, Chicks Dig Jeeps!
Another EXCELLENT video! You get better every time. Your reasons are sound, and seem heartfelt. It's my perception that you travel as I do, for the journey not for the gear. I've done many countries on motorcycles and being married and in my 60's you've about got me convinced to buy a used Jeep, grab the Mrs. and head for Argentina. You ever get to northern AZ you've got a comfy place to stay, although I'll probably talk your ear off :-) Cheers!
Great points as always!!! I just wish I could fit in a Jeep. I'm just too big. Keep these coming, you're the best real world source about really doing it that I have found on the internet!!
Wife and I have a stock JK and would be in Tuktoyaktuk on the Arctic Ocean (from Pennsylvania) right now if it weren't for the virus. As a 2 wheeled parallel I favor inexpensive Suzuki's over Adventure Bikes that cost 4 times as much or more. I rode my $5000 DR650 (new in 2009) around the world, 15 countries, 21,000 miles, in 2014. The JK has been over class 5 mountain passes in Colorado, and we drive it there, no trailer, no big wheels/tires or lift.
Thanks for the video. Here in EU many people think Jeeps are not very reliable, but you right. If someone takes one serious off-road it has to brake some time. I very seriously thought about buying Wrangler Rubicon, Unlimited or not, but I searched for Pentastar only (because it is tough, strong, simple, reliable, and coz I hate Diesels). Unfortunately there are not so many petrol Rubicons for sale in the whole EU (Europeans love sound of tractors :) and prices are crazy. Really crazy: omitting wrecks starts from 25k euro for the oldest 2012MY Pentastar JKs. Those american 4x4s keep its value better here than in North America. We cannot say this about other Jeep models. :) Cheers.
Nice list! I just got back into Jeep ownership with a Gladiator Sport S Max Tow. I went to Colorado last week with my 3 older sons and we did the Alpine loop it was so much fun!
I'm looking at a roof top tent that will sleep 3-4. It would be the perfect setup then we would be able to go from campsite to campsite easier than taking down and setting up a ground tent
My JKUR is 8 years old, on 35s, and hasn't lived a quiet life. Within warranty I had the starter remain engaged and grenade part of my transmission. Aside from that, rear wiper assemblies are the bane of my existence. I'm on my second, and it's dead too. I'm not going to replace it this time though, as I can't see past the 35 anyway! Last year I did a 5000 mile round trip of the Canadian East Coast. No issues at all. The starter was the only mechanical failure in this vehicle's life. Granted, it was a major one, but also extremely rare. I'd call it an outlier, and it won't effect my willingness to buy another Jeep in the future.
Many cars come from the factory with an outlier problem. They are complex creations and not every part is 100% correct. Shame you could not have had a less expensive part fail, but that is what warranties are for.
I really admire your philosophy on making what you have work. Spend more time doing than dreaming. I have a 98xj 2 door that I paid 400.00 dollars for and I would trust getting in it and driving anywhere in North America right now (with a little bit of pre trip Maitenace). I also have a 06 suburban that is cable of same NA trip. I honestly can’t justify a car payment that is as much or more than my house payment. If I had a new whiz bang ride it would sit in the driveway because I couldn’t afford fuel to go find blue lines on a topo.
I remember this guy from Jeep Forum. You may recall that I was guy warning everybody about the dangers of Africa based on my own travels. We were fairly combative, though my English is not the best & I think our early exchanges may have been due to the language barrier. 👍🏻
I think the single biggest point you made that resonated with me was volumes. Since the Jeep has such high production numbers and since it’s made so capable right from factory the after market for customization and dialing it to ones special needs is endless. I have a 90s Merc G which has an amazing engine and is supremely built right from factory. I’d argue it’s better built than the Jeep or land cruiser. But since it’s an ultra low volume vehicle if you want to get some customization done good luck.. and if something breaks it’s very costly and time consuming. I love the BMW GS motorcycles for the same reason. Secondly, I for one don’t get the charm of slapping monster tires and straining the vehicle outside its operating parameters. Like you mentioned in your video about tires...33”x16” tires are the Goldilocks size. All one needs for overlanding. Thank you for putting out such cogent content. Keep up the good work!! 👍👍
What I like best about Jeep is that some of the aftermarket parts are WAY more robust than OEM..My 99 Sahara is pretty modest build with only a 2.5" OME lift and 31" tires BUT I am certainly taking advantage of the fact that some parts are made to handle 37" tires.
All great points. All very true and accurate. If you're going to drive around the world off road then the Jeep is the only vehicle to do it in! But for most of us, we're not doing that. I just got back from driving 4500 miles on highways (round trip) from Florida to Colorado. While there i drove about 200 miles off road on trails and shelf roads, including the famous Black Bear pass. I did it in my 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD off road with only upgraded stock size tires and some upgraded skid plates. Why not Jeep? I just said they're the best off road...... Because they suck on road! For us that drive occasionally off road Jeep isn't the choice, in my humble opinion.
You’re right. I have a 2004 TJ since new and parts are so cheap and easy to install. I’ve replaced my idler pulley, radiator, thermostat, alternator and regular maintenance. Also runs like new and ride it with soft top down. I Will keep it and pass it on to my kids. I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee and it’s been great too.
Very good points. I've got a 2006 Jeep LJ Wrangler that is fully decked out for an around the world trip. I wouldn't take it though. Too small and, yes, very capable off road but terrible on road. I also have a Sportsmobile van fully decked out - that's what I personally plan to take on my travels. It's less capable, but it's got enough for what I need. In 7 years of slogging my Jeep through everything I've never seen any benefit of those lockers. 4WD, good tires, and decent ground clearance seem to be "enough" for what I do and I don't need more than enough.
Also, I owned a '97 TJ ( born in Nov of 96) for 11 yrs, and it was the most reliable vehicle I ever owned, and I beat the piss out of it. After 11 yrs and over 100k miles and it still fetched $4,800 cash.
I like your points as they can apply to other vehicles as well. I chose a Tacoma known across the ponds as a Hilux. I bought an 07 quad cab long bed and 80k miles for just under $10k. I just wanted something with a bit more of a payload capacity since I have one to three passengers on my adventures. Also don’t want to drag a trailer. More passengers more stuff. More stuff more weight. And to spend more than needed on some of those coveted 4x4s is outrageous.
I like your thinking very much, but just a minor correction, the Tacoma shares essentially nothing with the Hilux. Entirely different frame and body, different engine and trans. The Tacoma is not a world vehicle, unfortunately.
I think you may want to start cross referencing the actual parts. They are more similar than most internet searches would allow you to believe. Trust me Toyota did not reinvent any wheels here. For those with the 2.4L inline 4 cylinder engine the drive train is virtually identical. Engine mounts differ. ( when’s the last time you broke an engine mount?) For the 4.0L V6 you might have to use Prado parts. I’m 100% confident you can source any parts needed locally. The power of globally traded parts. And feel free to source parts from other manufacturers as well. For reference Jeep JK, Tacoma, and Hilux all share the same universal joints in the drive shafts. Just saying my vehicle choice had global travel in mind.
Except when you get out into the world, a gas Hilux is virtually unheard of. When you go to Africa, or Australia, or the middle East or Central Asia, gas powered toyota 4x4s are very, very rare.
I loved the last answer I drive 2010 JK 2.8 ltr Diesel from the showroom, it has done 98000 km mostly of road on some of the roughest roads in Australia and it rattles a little bit but it's a truck not a car.
New subscriber here. I just stumbled upon your channel and I'm glad I did! I've only watched a couple of videos but your approach is so refreshing. You make perfect sense in the topics you cover. But more importantly you actually have the experience to back up what you're saying. I'm looking forward to more videos.
I agree with your comments here ... your reasons. But I AM kinda bias ... we have 3 Jeeps in our household. But there is a reason for that... basically what you said here. Our first one, a 1988 Cherokee (cuz my kids were 1 and 2 weeks old) .... and it ALWAYS got us home. Even when I got stupider and stupider. Now 22 years on ... I still have it! ... it's amazing the lives they lead, and the places they take us, the things we've seen. No doubt it's going to break. Normal wear and tear stuff ... but really, it doesn't break ... I break IT!!
Generally a quiet follower here. Love the sound logic in this vid, and others. Don’t always agree, but it’s always worth a solid view/listen to the logic flow. I will note that the experience driving and thousands of hours of seat time sure makes a difference, regardless of vehicle. Nice to hear you share, and to watch your confidence grow! Met you at NWOR a couple years back, on my way out, with my ‘98 ZJ and #RangerTWMcGee in the back seat. I bought your coffee table book from the back of your Jeep as you were making coffee that last morning. I think we’re on to something with this Jeep thing. Cheers!
This is by far the most underrated Overland channel ever. Fantastic videos! I live in Brazil and Jeep after service is pretty bad, especially after its aquisition by Fiat. How is it in other parts of the world? I reckon Toyota's dealerships are widely available and if you but a Hilux - apart from North America - it is easily repairable. Thanks for the amazing favour you are doing to us all!
Here is a list of the jeeps I've owned: 2 CJ2A 2 CJ5 1 CJ7 2 XJ 2 ZJ 2 WJ I've loved all my ZJ and earlier Jeeps, but the two WJ pushed me over the edge and caused my wife to make the "no more jeeps" rule. The WJs were complete garbage. I had endless problems with both ranging from fit and finish, to drive train, to engine codes and wiring. I've heard reports, like yours, that jeeps built in the last few years are way better, but at this point I'm a little gun-shy. I suspect that many jeep owners might feel the same way. I'm not in a position to buy new, but a used JK might be fun.
Commenting just to balance things out a little. I've had x2 WJ's, both v8's along with 5 other Jeeps over the years. My WJ's were both great vehicles. The first one was purchased near new in 2004, I fitted a lift and 32"s tyres and did some travel, but after losing my job 4 years later I had to sell it. My 2nd WJ was a 2000 model that I bought in 2013 with 200,000kms. It was very rough and I could tell it hadn't been looked after. I bought it as a cheap offroad only vehicle, something to bush bash in. I ended up keeping it for 5 years, sold it at 316,000 km, I had travelled all over Western Australia in it, even raced it in a offroad race. It never let me down at all, I had fitted 32" tyres and clearenced the guards to suit as I was too cheap to buy a proper lift kit, didn't want to invest too much $$ into the bush basher, but honestly it just kept going. To this day, it is the only vehicle I've ever owned that has never dripped any fluids period. Amazing. I sold it to buy something newer that my growing family (mainly wife) would be comfortable travelling in rather than the old dusty bush basher. By the time I sold it, it had rock rash on every panel. It was well used going offroad at least monthly for my entire ownership and sold it fully functioning.
My first real 4X4 was a Jeep CJ7 - capable, lots of power but small. After that Toyota from the 1980 2 door pickups to the first models of Tacoma's to my new Tundra. Used these for work in forestry without operations for 40 years. And I have owned a couple more Jeeps. The 2013 JK and now a Gladiator. Cool, capable, more payload, lots of after market goodies too. Toyota need to pull up their socks and start competing with real improvements! I agree with your points whole heartedly but I would also take a Tacoma, Hilux or 70 series on that same trip. They all look cool!
I am no fanboy on brands, I drive I Hilux myself, and I have heard the most diehard Toyota fans give compliments to the Rubicon. Most describe it as the most factory ready overlander there is. I had doubts on the reliability but you proved me wrong. Keep up the great videos, info and tips!
Interesting... I've been looking in to reliability to the JK. I own one. I've never seen so many dash lights randomly show up and disappear. Mild lift, 33's, forest (fire) roads. I want it to be a great touring vehicle, but coming from a Toyota.... I'm just not confident. And then I stumble on videos like yours. Thank you for your view on the JK.
Did 30 thousand miles around the US on my ‘08 JK. Besides fixing the things that had been caused by previous owners neglect, rust mostly, the vehicle only failed in 3 ways wheel speed sensor in the rear, driver side u joint, and the sway bar disconnect acting up. I would argue that every some of those where hold over issues from previous owner. 11+ years in Vermont is pretty rough on any vehicle. Most don’t last too long up there, no matter the vehicle.
I should add that I am NOT sponsored by Jeep. They have never provided me a vehicle, or a discount, or a single dollar to do the expeditions I have completed. We once filmed a short video segment together, and that has been the extent of our "involvement". I have no sponsorship or support of any kind from Jeep or FCA, I'm free to say and do what I want.
I work for FCA, and it was nice to hear your positive feedback on how both your Jeep's have performed for you on your two long trips.
The Road Chose Me I have driven jeeps since 1986, and have never experienced any issues that couldn’t be fixed easily and cheaply, 2 cj7, 1 YJ, 3TJ, 2 JKU rubicons, and I now have a JLU rubicon. You are correct, driven in mostly stock form, nothing beats them. Most good North American vehicles can be driven of the showroom floor and taken across the country tomorrow, which I’ve done.
Thanks for the comment. They really have been great vehicles, and when I did a plant tour in Toledo it was really cool to see the hard working people who brought them to life!
You SHOULD be sponsored by Jeep, they are failing miserably by not sponsoring you or using you in advertisements. Great work brother!
Hey mate. Just started following you and loved Ur videos. Can you make one video or text me here about upgrading suspension before putting steel bullbar. I have got 2018 wrangler unlimited golden eagle. Want to put steel bullbar but don't want to spend on suspension. Is it good idea bcoz most dealers and workshop said no need to upgrade suspension but in forum some says it's important. Can u plz help me out. Cheers
Hard to argue with a man who has actually driven around the world. Great video and points as to why you made your decision.
LOL, you and I are opposites. You’re an Australian driving a Jeep, and I’m an American driving a FJ40 Land Cruiser. I still claim that Toyota makes the most reliable off-road vehicles. However, I must agree that Jeep’s win when it comes to capability, affordability, parts availability, and aftermarket support. Just a reproduction floor mat for my FJ40 costs $400. Great video, and yes, Jeep’s are good looking!
Toyota is pretty cool. But after I thought about it I realized that a tremendous amount of the off-road capabilities either come from a really expensive "TRD pro" level trim or from modifications. So I don't know how I feel about this now. I really wrote Jeep off when I was looking because of the fiat/chrysler reputation and was going to get a Tacoma or 4runner.(I'm in NA, Canada).
But after some research a wrangler is probably a better choice by far factoring everything in.
@@onedankind8168 So Jeeps have built this reputation for being unreliable and requiring constant repairs. After owning two over a number of years and being around them I have my theory why Jeeps get this reputation. I have not seen Jeeps break down more than any other modern day vehicle. The reason the reputation of unreliability may have started is that a LOT of Jeep owners run their rigs hard, crawl things that most vehicles should not attempt or put themselves in situations where damage occurs. Its one of few communities where they upgrade their rigs to then take it out and bash on them.
On the other end since the last decade I dont see Tacomas as being the bulletproof trucks that the Hilux made famous. Underfilled differentials, underpowered engines or under performing transmissions are common complaints I hear from my Taco friends.
OneDankind I think one way to think about it is Toyota is most reliable stock. Wranglers are most capable overall, and can be made to be more reliable by more easily making mods that reduce risks on the trail, etc.
@@richardlono1 I agree with you 100%. I never understood the mentality of people who take a perfectly good vehicle, sink a lot of money into it, and then purposely try to destroy it. I like jeeps for all the reason this video talks about, they are great vehicles and one of the few off-roaders you can still get in a manual, but I won't own one due to more than a few bad experiences I have had with the owners. This is a family friendly environment, so I will not voice my full opinion on them. Let's just say I drive I drive a Land Rover Discovery2 and the community is fantastic
David Moran I think the reliability thing is a matter of perspective due to the amount of jeeps that break due to extreme off-road conditions. Look up used jeeps, you will find tons with over 200k kms. Even 300k +. So general use it seems jeeps are pretty reliable too.
I love how your experience always trumps other people's hypothetical scenarios.
Your experience speaks for itself and is why i follow your channel for advice.
Thank you and keep up the good work 👍
Thanks very much, I appreciate that!
As a South African Jeep owner- I think you are spot on. Many local people don't believe a Jeep is for Africa, and in some ways its not, EG on the ground parts availability. But if it hardly breaks? Is that an issue? Overloading is normally the death of many a decent vehicle, and the mentioned Cruisers and Landy's are better at load, no doub. Trick is to not lug excess stuff with you that you don't need, enjoy the journey and the experience and just do it.
I live in Strand, got a JKUL diesel, out of Maintenance plan, no problem with parts. Most items are available at Master Parts or Auto Zone. The only thing I buy at Jeep is Mopar brake pads. More than double the price of ATE, but no black deposit on rims. Timing belt and gaskets are available at Angri.
Also a fellow South African Jeeper here 👍🏽
@@ajourneyinthewild ...and another!
And another
money isn't too big a concern for me, but how are toyota 4runners when it comes to part abundance? I hear toyota dominates the world so they must be common and have lots of parts available around the world. I'm thinking of buying a new 4runner
I can't give fine reasons why I drive a 40 year old Land Rover through both Europe and Africa, other than it makes me smile every time I drive it. It's slow, thirsty and cramped, and you probably let more dust and rain in than if you were standing outside, and the reliability is a bit pants, but I wouldn't trade it for the world. These vehicles all have our little stamp on them, a representation of our own personality. Don't get me wrong, it has some unbelievable design flaws, such as not having an actual fuel filter and having nowhere to put your arm against the door!
I have a series 2 Discovery, it has it's flaws (4.6 engine) but like you say, it puts a smile on my face every time I climb in and twist the key. It does everything I ask of it, looks good doing it, and I have to be a bit bonkers to drive it.
I understand that! I keep my old cj7 around because of love for the vehicle. It’s not comfortable to drive at all but it just has personality!
I absolutely agreed with all of your points...I own a 1998 Jeep TJ currently roaming around Cambodia’s back country with no roads and still going strong!!
Dan, your videos are great. I have a stock 2017 JKU Rubicon with some simple storage mods in the back, and I'm constantly amazed that the thing can comfortably travel 80mph on the interstate yet capably tackle off road trails. No issues 58,000 miles on the clock. Great vehicle for exploring.
I have a JK Rubicon and it is by far the best truck I have ever owned - granted yes coming from a Toyota i was hesitant getting it, i have had absolutely no worries or dramas since owning it 160,000km. I get a hard time from my mates saying that its unreliable etc. They have never owned one, I've modified mine similar to yours and I would definitely buy one again without hesitation, they are super reliable, capable and can mod them till the cows come home. Great choice of truck aye!
Great points, Dan! I have 132k on my ‘15 JKU and have been extremely happy with it. And yes, #1 is what makes me smile every time I look at it 😍
I recently found your TH-cam channel and am loving your story! I have a 2015 JKU that we named Clyde. It’s crazy how much my family loves our Jeep. Thanks for making these videos. I’m learning so much from you!
Welcome aboard!
Thank you!!! For finally saying that Jeep IS reliable. I have been saying it for years that Wranglers are the most reliable vehicles on the planet. Hands down, nothing even comes close. I've had 8 Wranglers and never one single issue. No recalls. No failures.
And I agree that people who claim their Jeeps break usually are doing something incredibly stupid and most of the time it's an aftermarket part that breaks, not the Jeep. Yet people will blame the Jeep for their own stupidity.
Just found this video, but spot on! I’ve had 5 wranglers, all abused, and all have been incredibly durable and reliable. Honestly, the reliability argument has come from exactly as you’ve said and other non-Jeep owners saying it over and over again. Excellent video and I take pretty much Jeep’s crossovers on the hardest trails we can find with success... Jeep is definitely definitely committed to making off-road machines! Cheers!
As a new JLRU owner, I am right there with you. My #1 reason for buying the jeep was cause for 20 years my wife has been saying she thought it would look good on me. Now that we are starting to overland with it, we are finding out the truth of your other points!
Wow!!! Haven't thought of driving the world in my 07 3.8L JKU Wrangler Rubicon. Maybe I will after I have run out of tracks in Australia. I agree with all of your reasons: very salient with my experiences. My JK has done 256000Kms (about 160000miles) and has been to pretty much every outback and desert track in Australia and it has NEVER let me down. It has a 2" lift, MT tyres, rear airbags, HD rear springs and that's about it. As stock as I could leave it. No bull bar or rear bars. Rarely use 4WD or diff lockers etc because it just gets me out of whatever situation without the need to use these "helpers". It truly is a remarkable beast. And I just love driving it. I have a skeleton roof rack that I carry extra gear. I tried tents, roof top tents and camper trailers but have settled with making a (quite comfortable) bed on the non driving side by removing the rear seats. That's it. I take 10 days of food and water in case of breakdown in addition to daily use, some tools and spares (oil, filters etc) and 2 spare tyres on rims, a 12V 60l fridge and that's about it.I make sure to do preventative maintenance before go and keep a good eye on what can wear over time.
Love your posts and insights. You just don't need to take a lot of crap (even expensive) to get out and about.
I love my JL Rubicon. From the factory it is easily one of the most capable 4WDs available, especially for the price. Within the first month I took it on some of the gnarliest tracks I could remember, and it was just point-and-shoot , rarely even needing the front locker because of the front swaybar disconnect/flex. Most people spend 10s of thousands modifying other brands of 4WD to even keep up - in the process voiding their warranty or insurance to do so.
Tired of how every other Aussie dismisses anything that isn't a Sandy Taupe 70 series cruiser.
Agreed on all these points Dan. I'm a dyed in the wool Toyota guy, but what I'm going to say right now is true for ANY vehicle.
Many mods/"upgrades" that people put onto their vehicles, are in fact inferior quality (reliability) to the stock part they have replaced, and add to that, a lot of mods are done because they've seen that mod done on a bunch of vehicles in magazines, so think they need it too.
I'm a strong proponent of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I've done mods to my vehicles, but the mods are always an upgrade - as good or better quality than stock, and if the stock part is working fine, why change it? This works for all brands.
I strongly suspect that one of the reasons that jeeps have a poor reputation for reliability is cheap or poorly installed mods. I rarely see stock or close to stock jeeps fail.
Good advice. Agree 100%. So often owners fit shonky Chinese parts, have a breakdown and then blame the vehicle manufacturer.
Agreed. Or the aftermarket part simply moves the stresses to another factory part. Which then breaks because it was never designed for that stress in the first place. But driving style and vehicle sympathy are also a huge factor.
@@thebnicho Yeah I've seen that a lot. A great example is people putting uprated CV joints in and breaking the diff instead. There's a reason that manufacturers design weak points where they are. It's a LOT easier and cheaper to replace an outer CV in the middle of nowhere than a diff... also a lot smaller and lighter if you're going to be carrying parts. If you know what/where the "fuses" are on your vehicle, then you can be prepared.
I agree 100%! I started with my used '78 CJ-7 for my first car and now, many years and multiple Jeeps with no reliability issues later, I just bought my 2020 Unlimited. They're aren't for everyone but like the saying goes "Only in a Jeep"!
Thanks Dan, more great advice. I was listening to an overland podcast a while back that pretty much slated anything that wasn't a 200 series or a Mercedes GL; most of us simply haven't got that kind of money to spend on a vehicle. So much great advice here. I love your approach to overland travel, keep up the great work!
Glad it was helpful!
Well said ..... Dan... 👏👏👏
Totally agree. Have owned 6 Jeeps to date plus a few other 4wd's here and there. No complaints about my Jeeps at all. Travelled now around half of Australia in them. No problems whatsoever. Love their offroad and rugged character. Love that info is so readily avail for them online and parts are easy to get. Looking around the new 4wd segment, there is still nothing I would get that isn't a Jeep.
Absolutely perfect! I hope to do a lap around the home country at some point.. it will have to be in a Jeep!
A lot of u.s. mail rural route contractors special order a right hand drive jeep, it's one of the very few vehicles with right hand drive made domestically.
I see the old Postal service jeeps (internal code DJ) on the road every once in while and it puts a huge smile on my face.
I've been driving a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee since 2006 (180k miles) and that includes overlanding with it in the U.S. the past seven years. I do my own maintenance and excluding tires the most I've spent on any single repair was about $200. It's hands down the most reliable vehicle I've owned in 35 years. Proper maintenance and mechanical sympathy are the key to the longevity of any vehicle.
Couldn’t agree more! I off-road with a lot of Toyota drivers (who all drive newer vehicles than me) and I’m always saying my 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ might not be the most reliable, but it’s simple to work on, there is tons of online support and parts are DIRT CHEAP... perfect for an off-road toy on a budget
I thought toyotas dominated the world. And the newer ones are hard to work on? I was thinking of getting a new toyota 4runner trd offroad
And those are all the reasons why I'd pick a Jeep. I'd like something with a little more space inside, but it's hard to argue with all the reasons you've mentioned!
Edit: "Gotta look good doing it!" Love it :D
That's awesome, mate. Just purchased a 2024 Rubicon in Calgary, Canada. This is my first Jeep, and I'm looking forward to enjoying it for many years.
I started from Calgary when I drove up to Alaska and then down to Argentina! I lived there for a couple of years and I swing through from time to time these days
Hahahahahahah
As a jeep owner the first thing that came in my mind is that "well it looks great" and I'm glad you mentioned that in the end
im sold with every point, especially #1.
Amazing jeep dude, amazing life brother
My addition to the list, but only because it applies directly to me. Helps build your following. I started following your blog back in the day because you were doing that trip in a Jeep. I cared a lot more about the Jeep than I did anything else. lol.
Haha, that's good to know! .. the Jeep IS better looking than me after all!
@@TheRoadChoseMe The only people who think Jeeps look good are the ones obsessed with form following function. but... I'm guilty of that, so I have to agree with you. :P
agree with the review 100%. I can speak from experience as I own a TJ Wrangler I bought new in 2005 that has travelled around over 200k and also own a late model 70 series twin cab Land Cruiser bought new in 2016, here in Australia. I kept the Jeep as handy having two vehicles, besides the resell price isnt much and I like it too much to part with. both vehicles are good but the amount of support and cheap parts on line for the Jeep is amazing. if anything the Wrangler is more capable off road and I havent had any reliability problems. I'm a gold prospector and both are used off road a lot
Excellent video. Keep producing them.
Best 4x4 ever build!
Love your channel. Keep the videos coming. I'm in my fourth Rubicon (2020 JLUR).
I totally agree with you. I own a 260K km 2012 Sahara, 3’’ lift on 33’, steel bumbers and after market lockers and towing and overland trailer. When people lift, they often don’t do it all, leaving the geometry wrong. Cost me a lot of self inflicted (wounds) repairs to learn that. That’s where the reliability thing comes into play. When it’s done properly, it’s trouble free.
50,000 miles on my '16 JKU Rubicon Hard Rock - none of those are commuter miles but rather as I have a company car these are almost all road trips (Quaran-Trips as of late). I am a big fan of regular maintenance and thus far the only issue has been a heater core replacement. The only modifications have been tailgate hinge upgrade, LED headlights, a better battery, Kargo Master hinge step, and window tint. Love it. I still see my 2003 TJ Rubicon that I sold driving around my town.
I love Jeeps. Now I understand why... Greetings from Costa Rica.
It’s good to hear about Jeep reliability. Just bought a Gladiator and I hope for longevity. Your videos are outstanding and enjoyable to watch! Keep up the good work!
Awesome! Thank you! (slightly jealous about the Gladiator!!)
I’ve owned 3 Grand Cherokees & 3 Wranglers: TJ, JK, & now JL. They’re very reliable - especially considering how people tend to beat on them. There’s a lot of bad information out there & my experience is better with Jeep than the one Toyota 4Runner that I owned.
Great video, and great reasons to drive a Jeep, It can’t be faulted as a great overlanding platform.
I´ve found my 2008 JK Rubicon to be reliable, too. I´ve beaten on it pretty good over the years and it has taken us on many adventures. It is at 142k miles and runs like new, with never an engine problem. I´d take it anywhere with confidence. I won´t be selling it anytime soon, either. It is so good that when I bought my new JL Wrangler, I kept the old trusty JK. Great video, Dan!
Great o hear!
I have enjoyed your Channel immensely and have enjoyed following your adventures since I first read about your North American trip a few years ago. The Jeep Overlanding Community needs someone like you to show the practicality, reliability and capability of the vehicle. Not everyone who owns a Jeep wants to smash rocks. Some of us want to see the world, explore, camp, hunt and fish. And I'm doing just that in a stock 2016 JKU wearing 32" A/T Tires. She has never let me down from Canada to Mexico, Atlantic to Pacific. Function over fashion!
Welcome aboard - your Jeep sounds absolutely perfect for getting out and exploring!
Good video my friend. Jeep is a good product if you take care of it and do the maintenance. JKs don’t need a computer to hook up to it to fix.
Well, agreed to your points.. But.. I'll stick too my 89 mod MB G army ambulance (MB OM 617 engine). It's slower, wont't fit in a regular shipping container, might be more expensive (doubt it in the long run). But I've got a woodstove, vinyl record player, and room for my guitar, and my wife :)
Multiple Jeep Cherokee XJ and 1 TJ owner here. I can totally relate to everything said here. Plus the if you get a jeep with the 4.0 and AW4 transmission they're super reliable. I get a lot of snow in winter where I live so Jeep is all I'll ever own besides a truck to tow with.
Jason from Maryland here
All of my points exactly! Great video! Lifelong jeeper here.
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Thanks and welcome
@@TheRoadChoseMe yes sir!
Not the man to argue with😁👍 Great video.
I think I have seen the video to which you refer where the guy doesn't use the Rubi's lockers because it would just not be fair... Love your videos man!! ... You gotta look good doin' it... Perfect!
Great common sense video! All the same reasons I picked a short wheel base F-150. Super reliable, amazingly capable, affordable, available, modifiable, and every other "able" word you can think of. They build almost a million a year! For decades!
Great little video Dan. I couldn’t agree more with your reasoning. I have owned and driven both Toyota’s and Jeeps since I bought my first 4x4 in 1990 and put many miles on them. Too many people like to bash and put down what other people like. Apple vs Windows for instance. My 2012 JK has 100k on the clock has been on many difficult trails and long journeys, it’s towed trailers, been though extreme hot and cold conditions, been over many 12,000 foot plus passes and has never had a mechanical issue. Any working mechanical device needs it’s maintenance and should not be so modified that it is beyond the parameters of what it was originally engineered for. Do that and it will usually treat you well in return.
Very informative. Great video based on experience. Bought a 2018 JKU , 2 years ago, now has 32,000 miles and have had 0 issues with no visits to the dealership. My wife and I are in our early 60s and intend to still be driving it 20 plus years from now.
It’s a keeper.
I totally agree with all your points!
Does the Jeep wave extend beyond North America ?
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I Love my Jeep , take care of it & it will take care of you... Getting ready to head up to Colorado & just chill-out .... Good-on-you Brother....!
Enjoy!
Love this.
Very good reasons!! I m going to take a look at some of this Jeeps...
I would add that they are relatively easy to fix as well. You don't have to take half the engine compartment apart to get to your starter. Not to mention the amount of support on TH-cam and forums; if you break anything, there's a dude out there who has done the same thing and made a how-to video about it
Great video mate.
Thanks 👍
I’ve always wanted a jeep wrangler, this confirms my choice ! :-)
I wanted one for so long, and I couldn't wipe the smile off my face driving it on day one with no roof and no doors!
Great video keep them coming. I’m on my 4th Jeep. I had a 89 YJ and a 02 Tj, a 04 KJ that people laugh about them but that KJ went quite a few places. I have a 2000 XJ that has some issues but their getting resolved.
Wranglers are legos for men (and some awesome women). You can built it so many different ways.
lol sexist
I drive an Isuzu VehiCross and I love it! However, I would never think of taking it across Africa or anywhere I didn't have access to parts. Your choice makes perfect sense and thank you for sharing your experience with everyone. Besides, Chicks Dig Jeeps!
Amazing video I drive a jeep LJ Rubicon and had no idea that all these attributes applied to these JK Wranglers.
Another EXCELLENT video! You get better every time. Your reasons are sound, and seem heartfelt. It's my perception that you travel as I do, for the journey not for the gear. I've done many countries on motorcycles and being married and in my 60's you've about got me convinced to buy a used Jeep, grab the Mrs. and head for Argentina. You ever get to northern AZ you've got a comfy place to stay, although I'll probably talk your ear off :-) Cheers!
Wow, thank you!
those are 5 good reasons. Our heater core started leaking (pinhole) at around 100,000 miles in Alaska, but it did not stop our trip.
Great points as always!!! I just wish I could fit in a Jeep. I'm just too big. Keep these coming, you're the best real world source about really doing it that I have found on the internet!!
I appreciate that!
Wife and I have a stock JK and would be in Tuktoyaktuk on the Arctic Ocean (from Pennsylvania) right now if it weren't for the virus. As a 2 wheeled parallel I favor inexpensive Suzuki's over Adventure Bikes that cost 4 times as much or more. I rode my $5000 DR650 (new in 2009) around the world, 15 countries, 21,000 miles, in 2014. The JK has been over class 5 mountain passes in Colorado, and we drive it there, no trailer, no big wheels/tires or lift.
Thanks for the video. Here in EU many people think Jeeps are not very reliable, but you right. If someone takes one serious off-road it has to brake some time. I very seriously thought about buying Wrangler Rubicon, Unlimited or not, but I searched for Pentastar only (because it is tough, strong, simple, reliable, and coz I hate Diesels). Unfortunately there are not so many petrol Rubicons for sale in the whole EU (Europeans love sound of tractors :) and prices are crazy. Really crazy: omitting wrecks starts from 25k euro for the oldest 2012MY Pentastar JKs. Those american 4x4s keep its value better here than in North America. We cannot say this about other Jeep models. :) Cheers.
Experience TALKS VOLUMES WELL SAID
Another informative video, thanks
Nice list! I just got back into Jeep ownership with a Gladiator Sport S Max Tow. I went to Colorado last week with my 3 older sons and we did the Alpine loop it was so much fun!
Right on
I'm looking at a roof top tent that will sleep 3-4. It would be the perfect setup then we would be able to go from campsite to campsite easier than taking down and setting up a ground tent
Great reasons.
My JKUR is 8 years old, on 35s, and hasn't lived a quiet life. Within warranty I had the starter remain engaged and grenade part of my transmission. Aside from that, rear wiper assemblies are the bane of my existence. I'm on my second, and it's dead too. I'm not going to replace it this time though, as I can't see past the 35 anyway!
Last year I did a 5000 mile round trip of the Canadian East Coast. No issues at all. The starter was the only mechanical failure in this vehicle's life. Granted, it was a major one, but also extremely rare. I'd call it an outlier, and it won't effect my willingness to buy another Jeep in the future.
Many cars come from the factory with an outlier problem. They are complex creations and not every part is 100% correct. Shame you could not have had a less expensive part fail, but that is what warranties are for.
Interesting and informative
I really admire your philosophy on making what you have work. Spend more time doing than dreaming. I have a 98xj 2 door that I paid 400.00 dollars for and I would trust getting in it and driving anywhere in North America right now (with a little bit of pre trip Maitenace). I also have a 06 suburban that is cable of same NA trip. I honestly can’t justify a car payment that is as much or more than my house payment. If I had a new whiz bang ride it would sit in the driveway because I couldn’t afford fuel to go find blue lines on a topo.
Agree!
I remember this guy from Jeep Forum. You may recall that I was guy warning everybody about the dangers of Africa based on my own travels. We were fairly combative, though my English is not the best & I think our early exchanges may have been due to the language barrier. 👍🏻
I do remember that!
I think the single biggest point you made that resonated with me was volumes. Since the Jeep has such high production numbers and since it’s made so capable right from factory the after market for customization and dialing it to ones special needs is endless. I have a 90s Merc G which has an amazing engine and is supremely built right from factory. I’d argue it’s better built than the Jeep or land cruiser. But since it’s an ultra low volume vehicle if you want to get some customization done good luck.. and if something breaks it’s very costly and time consuming. I love the BMW GS motorcycles for the same reason.
Secondly, I for one don’t get the charm of slapping monster tires and straining the vehicle outside its operating parameters. Like you mentioned in your video about tires...33”x16” tires are the Goldilocks size. All one needs for overlanding.
Thank you for putting out such cogent content. Keep up the good work!! 👍👍
Thanks!
What I like best about Jeep is that some of the aftermarket parts are WAY more robust than OEM..My 99 Sahara is pretty modest build with only a 2.5" OME lift and 31" tires BUT I am certainly taking advantage of the fact that some parts are made to handle 37" tires.
All great points. All very true and accurate. If you're going to drive around the world off road then the Jeep is the only vehicle to do it in!
But for most of us, we're not doing that.
I just got back from driving 4500 miles on highways (round trip) from Florida to Colorado. While there i drove about 200 miles off road on trails and shelf roads, including the famous Black Bear pass. I did it in my 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD off road with only upgraded stock size tires and some upgraded skid plates. Why not Jeep? I just said they're the best off road...... Because they suck on road!
For us that drive occasionally off road Jeep isn't the choice, in my humble opinion.
Sweet! Would Love do this in my Jeep!!!
I'm at 90K miles on my jeep
Only thing done is the tensioner pully and spark plugs. Runs just like new.
You’re right. I have a 2004 TJ since new and parts are so cheap and easy to install. I’ve replaced my idler pulley, radiator, thermostat, alternator and regular maintenance. Also runs like new and ride it with soft top down. I Will keep it and pass it on to my kids. I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee and it’s been great too.
100% agree
Very good points. I've got a 2006 Jeep LJ Wrangler that is fully decked out for an around the world trip. I wouldn't take it though. Too small and, yes, very capable off road but terrible on road. I also have a Sportsmobile van fully decked out - that's what I personally plan to take on my travels. It's less capable, but it's got enough for what I need. In 7 years of slogging my Jeep through everything I've never seen any benefit of those lockers. 4WD, good tires, and decent ground clearance seem to be "enough" for what I do and I don't need more than enough.
Also, I owned a '97 TJ ( born in Nov of 96) for 11 yrs, and it was the most reliable vehicle I ever owned, and I beat the piss out of it. After 11 yrs and over 100k miles and it still fetched $4,800 cash.
I like your points as they can apply to other vehicles as well. I chose a Tacoma known across the ponds as a Hilux. I bought an 07 quad cab long bed and 80k miles for just under $10k. I just wanted something with a bit more of a payload capacity since I have one to three passengers on my adventures. Also don’t want to drag a trailer. More passengers more stuff. More stuff more weight. And to spend more than needed on some of those coveted 4x4s is outrageous.
I like your thinking very much, but just a minor correction, the Tacoma shares essentially nothing with the Hilux. Entirely different frame and body, different engine and trans.
The Tacoma is not a world vehicle, unfortunately.
I think you may want to start cross referencing the actual parts. They are more similar than most internet searches would allow you to believe. Trust me Toyota did not reinvent any wheels here. For those with the 2.4L inline 4 cylinder engine the drive train is virtually identical. Engine mounts differ. ( when’s the last time you broke an engine mount?) For the 4.0L V6 you might have to use Prado parts. I’m 100% confident you can source any parts needed locally. The power of globally traded parts. And feel free to source parts from other manufacturers as well. For reference Jeep JK, Tacoma, and Hilux all share the same universal joints in the drive shafts. Just saying my vehicle choice had global travel in mind.
Except when you get out into the world, a gas Hilux is virtually unheard of. When you go to Africa, or Australia, or the middle East or Central Asia, gas powered toyota 4x4s are very, very rare.
I love the jk platform I have 104,000 miles and not one breakdown. We travel around the USA . Great video.
Great to hear!
good job mate
I loved the last answer I drive 2010 JK 2.8 ltr Diesel from the showroom, it has done 98000 km mostly of road on some of the roughest roads in Australia and it rattles a little bit but it's a truck not a car.
Perfect!
Good stuff. Thats suprising to read, especially after reading through the jk diesel fb page, but its definitley not a truck fyi.
New subscriber here. I just stumbled upon your channel and I'm glad I did! I've only watched a couple of videos but your approach is so refreshing. You make perfect sense in the topics you cover. But more importantly you actually have the experience to back up what you're saying. I'm looking forward to more videos.
Welcome aboard!
I agree with your comments here ... your reasons. But I AM kinda bias ... we have 3 Jeeps in our household. But there is a reason for that... basically what you said here. Our first one, a 1988 Cherokee (cuz my kids were 1 and 2 weeks old) .... and it ALWAYS got us home. Even when I got stupider and stupider. Now 22 years on ... I still have it! ... it's amazing the lives they lead, and the places they take us, the things we've seen. No doubt it's going to break. Normal wear and tear stuff ... but really, it doesn't break ... I break IT!!
Generally a quiet follower here. Love the sound logic in this vid, and others. Don’t always agree, but it’s always worth a solid view/listen to the logic flow. I will note that the experience driving and thousands of hours of seat time sure makes a difference, regardless of vehicle. Nice to hear you share, and to watch your confidence grow! Met you at NWOR a couple years back, on my way out, with my ‘98 ZJ and #RangerTWMcGee in the back seat. I bought your coffee table book from the back of your Jeep as you were making coffee that last morning. I think we’re on to something with this Jeep thing. Cheers!
Thanks for the comment and thoughts Tony - great to hear from you!
This is by far the most underrated Overland channel ever.
Fantastic videos!
I live in Brazil and Jeep after service is pretty bad, especially after its aquisition by Fiat.
How is it in other parts of the world?
I reckon Toyota's dealerships are widely available and if you but a Hilux - apart from North America - it is easily repairable.
Thanks for the amazing favour you are doing to us all!
Thank you very much!
Hope you're channel continues to grow. Great content
I appreciate that!
Here is a list of the jeeps I've owned:
2 CJ2A
2 CJ5
1 CJ7
2 XJ
2 ZJ
2 WJ
I've loved all my ZJ and earlier Jeeps, but the two WJ pushed me over the edge and caused my wife to make the "no more jeeps" rule. The WJs were complete garbage. I had endless problems with both ranging from fit and finish, to drive train, to engine codes and wiring. I've heard reports, like yours, that jeeps built in the last few years are way better, but at this point I'm a little gun-shy. I suspect that many jeep owners might feel the same way. I'm not in a position to buy new, but a used JK might be fun.
Commenting just to balance things out a little. I've had x2 WJ's, both v8's along with 5 other Jeeps over the years. My WJ's were both great vehicles.
The first one was purchased near new in 2004, I fitted a lift and 32"s tyres and did some travel, but after losing my job 4 years later I had to sell it.
My 2nd WJ was a 2000 model that I bought in 2013 with 200,000kms. It was very rough and I could tell it hadn't been looked after. I bought it as a cheap offroad only vehicle, something to bush bash in. I ended up keeping it for 5 years, sold it at 316,000 km, I had travelled all over Western Australia in it, even raced it in a offroad race. It never let me down at all, I had fitted 32" tyres and clearenced the guards to suit as I was too cheap to buy a proper lift kit, didn't want to invest too much $$ into the bush basher, but honestly it just kept going. To this day, it is the only vehicle I've ever owned that has never dripped any fluids period. Amazing. I sold it to buy something newer that my growing family (mainly wife) would be comfortable travelling in rather than the old dusty bush basher. By the time I sold it, it had rock rash on every panel. It was well used going offroad at least monthly for my entire ownership and sold it fully functioning.
My first real 4X4 was a Jeep CJ7 - capable, lots of power but small. After that Toyota from the 1980 2 door pickups to the first models of Tacoma's to my new Tundra. Used these for work in forestry without operations for 40 years. And I have owned a couple more Jeeps. The 2013 JK and now a Gladiator. Cool, capable, more payload, lots of after market goodies too. Toyota need to pull up their socks and start competing with real improvements! I agree with your points whole heartedly but I would also take a Tacoma, Hilux or 70 series on that same trip. They all look cool!
Thanks Dan. I will be taking a serious look at the JK line.
I am no fanboy on brands, I drive I Hilux myself, and I have heard the most diehard Toyota fans give compliments to the Rubicon. Most describe it as the most factory ready overlander there is. I had doubts on the reliability but you proved me wrong. Keep up the great videos, info and tips!
Fair enough!
I'm thinking of going with a new toyota 4runner trd offroad
Interesting... I've been looking in to reliability to the JK. I own one. I've never seen so many dash lights randomly show up and disappear. Mild lift, 33's, forest (fire) roads. I want it to be a great touring vehicle, but coming from a Toyota.... I'm just not confident. And then I stumble on videos like yours.
Thank you for your view on the JK.
Did 30 thousand miles around the US on my ‘08 JK. Besides fixing the things that had been caused by previous owners neglect, rust mostly, the vehicle only failed in 3 ways wheel speed sensor in the rear, driver side u joint, and the sway bar disconnect acting up. I would argue that every some of those where hold over issues from previous owner.
11+ years in Vermont is pretty rough on any vehicle. Most don’t last too long up there, no matter the vehicle.
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Tnx for an informative upload..Glad to find your channel.
Your channel deserves much more subscribers, than what it got today...
Thanks and welcome
Amen 🙏 Brother !!!! Long live the the Jeep.
Right on!