APRILIA let me DOWN! Tuareg 660 Test RANT!
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- I test rode the Aprilia Tuareg 660, from Motorrad Technik Martynow in Embsen, and the ride did NOT go as I expected.....
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Huge red flag. I wouldn’t spent a cent at this place either.
Never in a million years! They made sure of that!
Seems to be an ongoing theme with them Aprilia dealers - not the first story I’ve heard along aimilar lines 😟 such a shame, it could be a good bike - but do you want to be at mercy of a sh*t service/dealership?
Never! But sadly the prices are so weird right now that a new bike made more sense than another used KTM. Thankfully I’ve found a better dealership, they’re just far more expensive than I’d hoped. As soon as it’s out of warranty, I’ll be doing it myself though!!
Bloody hell, some dealer that is!
As for Aprilia, I’ve had two Tuono V4 1100 Factory’s and loved them, never had a problem.
Thanks for sharing the test ride Andy!
That's good to know, thanks mate!
can't be official dealer.. being
aprilia such a great brand. never had aprilia but know a lot of people and videos who never reported any issue
Made the same experience here in bavaria with a Yamaha/KTM dealer. Horrible, i told them that there is a strange whining sound from the gearbox in 3. and 4th gear after testride, their answer: well, it is supposed to to so.
Changed dealer, they are the complete opposite, but sadly 60km away. But guess where I bought the bike….
Totally understand that Marc. I did the same with Honda. The Hamburg dealer really upset me with their attitude so i went 40km up the road to the next closest!
One look at the business and you can see that they don't put any money back into the business and that's a Big no no for Me... don't give up on Aprilia they have some of the best bikes built... Yes I feel you right now and that's what makes us go to another brand.. I would call Aprilia Head office and explain your experience with them and believe me a company like that would be All over them.... when I seen that plate for me that was not good tell's everything about that place... I've been to shop's like that and I was in and out...
Interesting bike shame about the cock womble dealer😂 You need to move back to England I've got Ducati honda BMW and triumph within 4 miles of home and only 10 miles from the start of Yorkshire dales 😁 Sadly though it does piss it down a lot here maybe your better off in Germany.😁
I wouldn’t go that far, it rains QUITE a lot here too! 😂😂 I do miss the Uk customer service though!
There's a lot to be said for riding an older used bike. They're typically cheap, less complicated, easier to work on, and not so dependent on dealers. My current ride was 16 years old with 36,000 miles on the clock when I bought it for $750US. It takes me to all the same places as guys on bikes that cost more than 10 times as much. I gave it a full service over the winter and I won't be surprised if I get another 36,000 trouble-free miles out of it.
I actually totally agree. I spent HOURS trawling through the classifieds for options. The only things that would do what I want would be Honda 750 Africa twin, Yam Super Tenere 750 or similar. Sadly those bikes are CRAZY expensive in Germany right now! Over half the price of a new bike for something over 20 years old! 🤣
Well said brother Early models transalp
Africa twin
KLE 500 if you need a parallel twin cylinder small engine.
Its what i did and saved my self from spending my money on garbage New age machines.
Totally agree, the people who buy bikes and ride a couple of thousands miles a year mean there are plenty of low mileage cheapish bikes out there in the UK.
Paying that little for a bike here in the UK and you'll get a bike that is falling apart. I paid £2400 for my now 23 y/o Kawasaki Ninja ZX9r in March 2021 with 16k miles, done almost seven thousand trouble free miles until I got unlucky and the head gasket went, I think only due to it being left outside under a cover for five years, otherwise the engine is great, and the bike overall is as good as expected with it's history. There are some great low mileage old bikes at grat prices out there.
i chould not agree more i had a ktm 1190 adventure r. after dlearship messing with to much i need pluged in for everything. i end up buying a honda transalp 600 1993 it best bike i ever riden i did a test rid norden 901 i had for a week best thing bike had was cruise control. everything ealse was heil to deal with it rattle make noises. horrable offroading as well. it blow my brains how 30 year old bike dose better brand new norden shocking. and i say it close to my ktm as well. i feel i take my transalp more places then i would my ktm. i had this talk my firend mt07 looking adventure bikes saying i not any thing oder then 2016 i luaghed in her face. said u go a head u burn a hole in your pocket. she saying her mt07 was to slow, she not keep up with me on 50bhp bike lol. i was runing mites e09 as well on the road not going over 60mhp say a lot
You know my thoughts on Aptilia, awesome bikes let down by shite dealerships and expensive servicing costs. Looks like you have experienced the shite dealerships already :)
So very sad but so very true. I can only imagine that the problems start from the top. It’s obviously not attractive for franchised dealers to work with Aprilia. Shame really because they really are very cool bikes!
The most realistic review I've seen on this bike 👍
Cheers Carlo 👍🏻
Not that id expect you to follow ....but after many years of new bikes january this year i had clear out bought a 2011vstrom 650 from a brilliant dealer did a new rear tyre mot full service didnt ask for this....after a trip to outer hebrides and local rides is it worse than 11000 grand vstrom 1050xt 9000grand tracer 7 GT.....no it beep beeep isnt ...its brilliant at nothing but good at everything .....cheers dave..😂👍👍
That's the real winner Dave! I'm happy for you mate. I did spend a large chunk of time looking for a used 'Gem' that I could lavish with care and abuse in equal measure. Sadly the prices were exorbitant! (German market plus height of the season). 20 year old XTZ750, 5 grand! 25 year old Suzuki DR800, 3 grand! Madness. Maybe after the next bike deeply disappoints, I'll get rid and buy a project in the winter when it's cheap!! 😅
Sounds like that mechanic was a complete gobshite, to get a better idea on the bike I’d go try a different aprillia dealer. What about the tracer 9 gt did you look at one of them at all? I’m seriously edging towards one of them as I’m finding my v strom just too big and heavy now which is a shame as I love the thing but health dictates a lighter bike is required 😢
Absolutely! Just the total confidence in his opinion. Not even interested in checking the bike. Plonker. I personally didn’t really gel with the Tracer 9. riding position was weird for me and i hated the display!
It's so odd. A friend had a similarly poor attitude at a dealership he has bought maybe 4 bikes from over the years. Why push people away when they actively want to give you their money!!
In this case (and i think I’m most cases in Germany) the answer is in the problem. If your friend has bought 4 bikes from there already, then they don’t feel that they need to work for his custom. That’s the same feeling i get everywhere here. „If you don’t buy it, somebody else will“. They literally don’t care.
@@AndyManCam Yeah, there's something in that. Mate has swapped in his KTMs for a V4S Multi now though after proper treatment from Ducati who did actually want to make some money!
Load of horse!
Get a Early 2000 bike used mod it spec it out and you get a bike that lasts!
A bunch of junk!
I really wish i had the space and time to do that. Plus the prices of good old ADV bikes in Germany is nuts right now. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t!
way to go, 18minutes of pointless rambling ....
How is it pointless rambling? Firstly it highlights a very real problem with the current sorry state of the motorcycle sales industry and their apparent lack of interest in actually satisfying customers. Secondly, I still managed to actually gain a small amount of insight into the bike. Finally, the title pretty much says it all. You got exactly what i promised you from the outset.
@@AndyManCam yes but nobody give a fuck about state of some test bike.
if you do test ride and video about it say something useful about bike, handling, features, suspension,engine, how she feels. something thats relevant and interesting for people.
look at ian from BigRockMoto he be doing best videos aboot bikes ;
@Angry-Lynx You mean YOU don’t care. Plenty of others do though. And where in the title does it say that this is a test ride video? If you want to watch test ride videos, go look for videos promising test rides! I would have loved to do a test ride, but sadly those weren’t the cards I was dealt. Difficult to figure out handling etc.. when the front wheel is bent.
You wouldn’t complain that the electrician didn’t fix your plumbing, so stop hassling me because my video didn’t provide what it never set out to deliver.
Thank you for naming this dealership. Not that I’m in Germany or indeed after an Aprila. Too few actually have the courage to give bad dealerships a good coating. Well done.
Happy to! Bad service should be highlighted and stamped out. We all have the power to vote with our feet and go elsewhere!
My boss had a similarly bad dealership experience, albeit involving a used Mercedes van. He took it to the dealership's mechanic who said it was in perfect working order. However, after driving it a bit he felt the brakes were somewhat unresponsive. He then took it to a different mechanic, who found out there was indeed a problem with the brakes involving the ABS unit AND the servo, meaning the thing was a deathtrap that needed 2 grand worth of repairs. It's amazing how unconscientious some people are.
Unbelievable! The worst bit is the way that ‚experts‘ can look you in the face and say everything is fine. Either they’re literally clueless (bad) or they actually don’t know (really bad!).
Totally unbelievable. I remember being told my warped front discs were probably caused by me braking too hard. Sorry, braking too hard? It was a mk1 versys 1k. Hardly doing track days etc.
Hahaha! These stories make me crazy!! @TheLikeableRider was once told that his bike had clutch failure because he’d fitted a brake reservoir protector! Madness!!
That's a pretty sad tale Andy. If we are willing to hand over our hard earned coin then the people we pay should be at least competent, responsible, honest humans, sadly it seems there's people in the industry that think otherwise
Very much so. And even worse is that they still think they deserve my custom. Fools!!
Shocking they let someone ride that damaged bike. Surely that’s a safety risk.
I would have said so! But apparently they thought it was completely OK 🤦🏻♂️
@@AndyManCam I had no idea Germany was so bad to be honest man. I can see why you are disillusioned about it all.
Can't beat a Yamaha 😎👍
I think that depends on how you define ‚beat‘. What’s made this really tough is that the Aprilia has better suspension, more comfortable seat, better tech, tubeless rims, cruise control, off road ABS, larger fuel tank (but with same weight and economy) and it currently costs 1500€ less 🤯
You wouldn't get crap service like that here in blighty, i agree with one of the other comments about buying an older bike. Love older bikes, recently bought a 23 yr old Mk1 1200 bandit. Not a single riding mode on it not even abs , i bloody love it and so easy to work on.
I Know right! I keep telling people that it’s different back home! I’d love to have gotten something old, but prices for what i wanted (750 Super Tenere etc) were madness!!
Disgraceful dealer.
This dealership experience is no surprise to me...Ive had similar experiences here in the states. Too many dealerships these days employ people who are fucking clueless. Having said that, I bought a lightly used Tuareg last week and love it, but it's back to the dealer with a running issue. Fortunately this dealership has been great so far.
Omg... avoid those guys like the plague...
Oh trust me, I will!
Why are riding a motorcycle with a bad front-end
Because that’s how it was given to me, by the supposed ‚professionals‘ who are trying to sell motorbikes. It wasn’t exactly my plan.
On the channel "Big rock moto" you can see a comprehensive long-term review of the Tuareg 660 in several parts which is more comprehensive and nuanced.
I don’t need to. I’m living it. I’ve got one in the garage. 👍🏻
@@AndyManCam
Well, the information is of course for people who don't have one, and that's most individuals on earth.
@leiflindqvist9095 Yes of course. But they can also watch the story unfold here, for a different perspective. 👍🏻
Would have been nice to see the buckle of the wheel!
Theres a bit where I stand up and look down on the wheel, in slo-mo. You can see how buckled it is then. To look at the rim stationary, you couldn't really see anything. So although I understand that they potentially could have missed the buckled wheel at the dealership, the thing that got under my skin was not only that they KNEW about it, but that they had already decided for me that it was absolutely no problem. Buckled so hard that the steering wobbles, but that's fine for customers to ride.
If I wasn't married for life to my GS (and possibly any new GSs that will come) and if I had healthy knees, back, shoulders... I would be seriously considering Tuareg. It seems to be better out of the box from all other middleweights out there. Completely based on other people opinions, never ridden or even seen one so there's that...😄
I know what you mean. I’ve read and watched pretty much every review out there and there is barely a bad thing said about it! Well, except for the obvious shaky parts and reliability reputation!
Would you not have another CB1000R 😊
Not even if you paid me. Unless… well how much are we talking?…
Terrible attitude by the dealer
Email Aprilia Germany and Italy and say they've lost a sale because of their incompetant dealer
Nothing may happen...but then it just might
I was thinking of doing exactly that. I'm pretty sure that they will all simply ignore me though.
@@AndyManCam if nothing else mate, it will be cathartic for you
And they may not ignore you - they are owned by Piaggio after all and reputation mateers
Not much difference in the States when it comes to motorcycle servicing.
After numerous tire balancing and tires being mounted backwards I gave up on most of the shops.
I bought some tire spoons and a small balancing stand and have changed all my tires for the last 10 years.
I had the same problem (attitude) from two garages local to me in the uk. I paid a little more from other garages because i refused to give them my money. They still seem to plenty of trade tho so guess some people are willing to accept attitude if the price is right.
That’s a shame. I don’t understand how they stay in business. The only explanation is that people are too shy or embarrassed to speak up about substandard service. I think this is definitely the case in Germany.
Customer care, in many places, is going down the drain.
Totally agree. Seems that drain for motorcycle businesses is a bit bigger and dirtier though!
The airbox noise is worth it alone
The TH-cam 'Bulgarian' moaned about that...everyone else seem to love it
@williamrae9954 Each to their own i suppose. But i absolutely love it! Even after 5000 km it’s still intoxicating.
6' 4", just under 100K, 34" inside leg, we could be twins. Except I'm old enough to be your father. (I'm not.) P.S. some luke warm advice from someone who's never tried to be a TH-camr - definitely cut down on the Insta 360 percentages and smash out more content. The 360 is spice to the dish. Don't let your punters go hungry. We'd miss your content greatly.
We’re on the same page there Michael. In fact the next two serieseses will be entirely without 360 footage. Went back to the roots for a bit!
Bikes can be fixed, but bad attitudes from the people who 'potentially' will service your bikes cannot. A huge red flag. As you are a tall unit I wondered if an adventure bike style would be more suited? But appreciate a mute point as you have already made a purchase! I look forward to the next test ride upload.
Absolutely right! But this is an adventure bike. The thing is massive! It’s just got a smaller engine than the supertanker ADV‘s but there’s plenty of space.
It’s a fabulous bike
It really is! 5000km on mine now and still loving it!
I love the bike, got one for me after a 3 hour payed testride, but dealerships are a joke for aprilia in germany so far. If they are any good they are way to busy. If they are not busy you know why.
That's a shame. But hey, at least you've got the bike you wanted! Just have to book way in advance and hope for a new dealership!! 😉
Great video Andy! Well done for highlighting that terrible customer service too. Hopefully it will make them up their game. Hope yer well man. 👌🎥
Cheers Dave. I don't think they'll do anything to better themselves, but at least i got it off my chest!!
I think personally (my wife disagrees and is usually right) that spending €150 on a full day's ride on a well sorted example might be worth considering. You'll get an accurate picture of the arse ache and vibrations factors and if you do buy one it's a very small fraction of the overall price.
And if you find that you don't like it you won't have wasted anything because then you'd know for absolute certain
You are of course right. I think it just pokes me in the principles when it should be the dealership convincing me. But just like everything in this country, they’re blinded by the short term. They care more about the resale value of the demo bike than the long term gain of multiple purchases and multiple loyal customers. TBH I’d happily see the dealership network in Germany starve themselves to bankruptcy with their own stupidity.
I completely agree, same problem here in the south of Germany, no matter what brand. I had the same wobbling front wheel, when I test rode a T7. At least, they did't tell me that it was alright, but I bought my T7 somewhere else. The good thing with Yamaha, you can do the service yourself, because you don't need the warranty.
Shocking. But glad I’m not the only one!! 😂 That is a god point with the Yamaha.
M8 I can't believe that even happened, a buckled front wheel ffs! Did they blame that on you to top it off beautifully?
Thankfully no, but they did CV knowingly send me out on a broken bike. W⚓️s.
It is pretty silly the way you keep bashing Germany. Why are you so up-nosed?
I continually and repeatedly experience awful customer service in Germany. I’m not stuck up, i just expect to get better service when I’m spending my money. I expect to be treated with respect and i expect not to be treated like an idiot. Sadly i have many examples, particularly from motorcycle dealerships, where these things didn’t happen. It’s very different in the UK, where businesses actually know that customers will go elsewhere if they aren’t happy with the service they receive. Here in German it’s often just assumed that the customer is expendable, replaceable, stupid and unimportant.
@@AndyManCamI feel you! I am from Hamburg as well and I have experienced everything you are experiencing right now (Kawasaki,Ducati, KTM, Triumph, Yamaha and Honda are the worst tbh ya ) it's just so sad they treat you as you said, like an idiot and all you want to do is make yourself happy with buying a new motorbike and have a considerate shop to bring it to, nothing else
@dejovanoski I’m so glad you’ve said this as I’ve had so many people tell me that I must be the problem and it can’t really be that bad!! But it really is an awful situation!! I’ve resorted to buying my bikes long distance and having them delivered, rather than deal with the pure madness that goes on in Hamburg dealerships!
30 min for a testride is normal no?
According to the German dealers, yes. To the guy considering dropping 10,000 € of hard earned savings, a half hour is about a weekend too short!
Thats how a dealer can destroy manufacturers reputation, right?
TOTALLY!! They're single-handedly putting people off the Tuareg, one test ride at a time!! "Yeah that death wobble is completely normal mate".... Idiots. Though I bet if I email Aprilia, they will do NOTHING about it. Seems nobody cares what the customer thinks nowadays!
Not a great dealerships experience. 🧐
Hippo Drones absolutely loves his Touareg. And gets a much better dealership experience from Brighton Moto. Not that it's much consolation for you...
Not at all! I will say that I’ve found a solid looking dealership with great reviews that’s just 10 minutes further away.
Hard to find good help sales/service complete.
Owner of 6 different motorcycle brands,
one being the Aprilia Tuareg 660; great bike.
You have to have good dealership experience. Never going to be 80% that's my experience.
Just saying.
""Thank you for allowing me to buy a bike from you".😂
That's what the dealership expects from Buyers/ its Customers.
Sad but true. I vowed to avoid the dealerships like the plague and only buy used. Then some idiot hit me in town and the used prices had gone so crazy that a new Tuareg made more sense than a used KTM 1090. 🤡
WOW just WOW and not in a good way
I wholeheartedly agree!
Lucky they didn't blame you for damaging the wheel.
Everything is on video 😂
Very true. But Germany still doesn’t legally recognize the action camera! 😅
I sat on a 2nd hand Honda NT1100 in a dealership last week, the front forks were noticeably twisted. How they could put that on the show room floor I don’t understand.
It’s disgusting! Almost as bad as me standing in a Honda dealership, complaining about my paint problem „oh I’ve never heard of that, how unusual“ except the 2 used models on the showroom had the exact same issue! 🤦🏻♂️ it beggars belief!!
Test Rode this, two things I did not like as the Viby foot pegs over 100km, and the heat from the motor, went for the triumph Tiger
900 instead.
I did notice a bit of a buzz in the pegs, but way less than from my CB1000R. Didn’t get long enough to feel the heat, but i never had an issue with the heat on the KTM 1090 either, even after removing the plastic bits meant to reduce the heat. Maybe my trousers are thicker! 😂
Typical whinging pom
Thank you Matt. Insightful as ever.
You know what is happening…………it’s the curse of the CB1000r………never should have got rid of it. Hahahahahahah!😂😂😂
Hahaaa! But what if you’re right?! Wow i hope not! 🙁
Find a Suzuki dealer
I don’t really fancy a Vstrom though 😔
HA, Desert X, what did I say....what did I say? There's a tasty black one and as everyone knows, Ducatis make you feel special, and those head lights.......dribble dribble.
Cheers Babes!
Ha! You’re preaching to the choir Edward! I’d love to, but there isn’t enough cash available for one of those!
How did that even happen? How does someone screw up the bike that bad and go "Eh let people go test ride it. That will really get them in the buying mood!" People over here complain so much about how bad dealerships are because of some fees added to the MSRP but they at least don't play out like a Monty Python sketch. I get turned off from a dealership because it is too corporate feeling not because they treat me like a buffoon.
In the range of 600 is a good middle ground. The range of a 1,000cc are bikes that have more power than you could ever really use. Where as something like a 300 has all the power you really need. 600s around about are bikes that have more than you need but not too much that you can't use it. Something I don't really like about that bike is the display. I don't really like the bright color screens blasting me in the face in the dark and invisible with the sun beating it. I appreciate the versatility but I would rather just have something tell me what I need to know without any negative consequences like that.
Beats me! You absolutely nailed it with the Monty Python sketch though! I was utterly flabbergasted at how they could keep a straight face and tell me all was normal! 🤣
Not so much of a 'rant' as much as a 'whinge'.
Isn’t a rant just an angry whinge?
@@AndyManCam I suppose! 🤣
If the bike still interests you after the dealer and wheel experience, I can recommend you chat with Pete @Hippo-Drones channel. He's been running one off and on-road for some time.
I had a Triumph dealer offer me a max of 30-minute test on a new Tiger 1200. I said if that was all on offer before parting with 19K I would look elsewhere. Didn't seem bothered.
How about a BMW dealer?
That’s madness isn’t it! For 19k I’d want a whole afternoon! Don’t worry, @Hippodrones was my first port of call when I started considering this bike! 👍🏻
Never had issues like that in Germany. But if I ran into a dealer like that, I wouldn‘t buy from him too. Maybe it‘s a problem anywhere the density of dealerships is low … especially for exotic brands like Aprilia.
I fear that you could be right. No competition breeds complacency. Although service in general is terrible in Germany. You can bet that i didn’t spend any money there though!!
Sorry to hear about the KTM...
Glad you are OK.. Like someone else said, some physio might be needed.
Just a thought.... If 2nd hand prices are stupid over there.... Worth a trip back to blighty? Ian could be in the look out for the next dream machine?
That dealership needs hanging by the balls... End of.
Could well be right about the physio. Sadly that’s another thing that you have to squeeze out of the doctors here. They’re all as bad as each other! Ian actually suggested buying in UK, but the complications and costs of then importing to Germany make the whole thing look like more of a nightmare than a dream scenario!! 😂
Get BMW R 1300GS 🤣🍻
Never. Never ever. Never ever in a thousand nevers in nevereverland.
I went to test ride a GS in 2018 and had my bike quote in hand. It was all but a done deal, just the test ride to complete. Then I was introduced to the service manager who was a total twat. Canceled test ride and walked out. No sale!
Fair play to you mate. That's the only way that we, the consumer, win this war of shite service and rubbish products. Vote with your feet and starve out the crap businesses. If they can't value the customer, then they don't deserve the customers money.
Stick to Japanese mate. If you’re planning on doing a lot of road miles, try the new Transalp.
My faith is shaken I’m afraid. Honda‘s finish quality really destroyed my idea of what Japanese reliability really is. With that in mind, the Transalp simply isn’t an option for me!
VILE EXPERIENCE buddy. But after testing the World Raid T7 why would you even test anything else? 🤪🤙, T7 there is No substitute 👊🤙👍
I know right!! Though i decided that the bike did speak to me and the 2000€ discount against the T7 WR was to good to pass up! I did NOT buy from that dealership though!!
Holy moly - what a joke!!!! That level of.... "quality" is scary. Im waiting for you to try a GS, tap into that GS fanbase ;P
Must. Resist. Gs. Resistance. Is. Not. Futi…..
What an attitude... Absolutely disgusting, you should complaining to Aprilia and get a dealer ship of your own, I bet you are not the first person in Germany to be disgruntled with the services.
Don't be too disheartened, I love the videos and feel your pain!!!
Good luck with the search even through you are expecting the bike soon. Look forward to seeing what you went for....🤩🤩🤩
Too right Nigel. I can’t be the only one, yet bad service prevails here! Thanks very much and all will be revealed soonish!
I own it, I love it, best bike brand in the world, maybe second to Ducati. Now, those whining about not having enough babysitter dealership next to you to service your adv bike is a joke, learn to fix it yourself, its an adv bike not a scooter. Eventually, you have your right to express your thoughts but with all due respect, this was a subjective review and not really relevant considering you are driving on roads with some kind of front wheel issue with your specific bike. Respect to you non the less 👍
Totally agree. I own it and i love it too! Didn’t buy it from this dealership though. I wouldn’t give them the steam off my 💩!! The relevance of the review was more showing the experience and highlighting the terrible service I’ve come to expect here in Germany. The customer is always wrong! Still saw enough in the bike to know that it was the one though. 👍🏻
Unfortunately some folks on test rides are totally disrespectful of the bike as it is not their property. That said your customer experience was extremely poor and you are right to totally discount that particular dealership. All things considered and objectively speaking BMW motorrad have the best customer service experience. They are happy to give test rides, used bikes are fully serviced with a two year warranty. OK you pay a little more but I can see the value. What about a used 850gs which has likely never been taken off road by its previous owner.....
Yeah of course. But the fact that they knew about this bike yet still sent it out! It’s obvious the mechanic kerbed it on his adventures in Italy and didn’t want the boss to find out! I don’t really fancy it TBH. They’re obviously well made. But just a bit heavy and unexciting in my slanted opinion!
good review but a minor buckle in a wheel is hardly a death trap, agree they should not be sending out a bike with such a clear fault, strangely I would imagine things to be more profile in Germany.
Anything that makes the wheel wobble the amount it did (you can’t really appreciate the amount from the video) is going to unsettle the bike. I’d have left it at that, but the dealers attitude was what pissed me off the most. Unfortunately shoddy service at dealers is pretty much the norm nowadays.
And there was my thinking buying a bike in England was a pretty lousy experience but at least we get to round wheels here😎👍
The round wheels do certainly make the process a little more enjoyable! 😂
The problem you have is well known and fixed some months ago from aprilia. Your dealer must know this. The only problem of aprilia in this case is his dealer...
This isn’t my bike. I literally picked it up 5 minutes earlier from the dealership. Then after the ride, I spent 5 minutes ranting about how the dealership is at fault. So you’re pretty much echoing what was already said in the video 👍🏻
Sei riuscito a trovare una strada tutta dritta.
Sei obeso: 180cm x100kg di peso e ti lamenti che la moto si muove sull'avantreno. Devi aumentare il precarico del posteriore!
Tieniti il 1090 che fai bene
penso che tu abbia completamente frainteso. la ruota anteriore è deformata. L’oscillazione avviene perché la ruota non è rotonda! 😂
PS, im 194cm so 100kg isn’t obese, you cheeky sod. 😝
@@AndyManCam se c'erano la ruota storta e il parafango fuori asse vuol dire che la moto ha subito un incidente.
Hai fatto una prova inutile.
Nel video dici di essere 180cm sei cresciuto di 14 cm nel tempo che va tra il video e il commento? 😆
No shit Sherlock. What was your first clue? Obviously I didn’t plan to go out and test a bike with a buckled wheel. That’s not an extra wish that was requested from the Aprilia dealership. I also quite clearly say that I’m 6 foot 4 inches tall in the video. Last i checked, that’s not 180cm. I haven’t been 180cm since I was 12 years old.
@@AndyManCam bene Whatson alto 6 piedi puzzolenti e un paio di pollici, terrò conto della tua esperienza per le ruote deformate.
I've heard people say if you don't look back at your bike when you walk away then you've got the wrong bike, to my eyes the aprilia looks awful. Yes it has Dakar style, but they're not good looking bikes either 🙈
Yep, they’re certainly not super model machines. But TBH most of my bikes have been ugly!! I have loved them for what they can do!
So it'll be a gs1250 then 🤔 .... I'd expect bmw to be discounting them in the coming weeks
Haha! They’ll have to discount them around 50% for me to afford one!! 😆
Unbelievable they would let you go out on this bike!!!
Very bad way to get customers!
Have you tried a Triumph Scrambler 1200, should be good for your size, but it is a naked, so you would probably need a screen, it’s a very cool looking bike😜
I know right! It beggars belief that they think it was ok! I wanted a scrambler 1200 for a long time, but now i think it’s a bit heavy and too good looking for me to throw in the dirt!
Yeah I know the feeling man that's the reason why I'm not getting a Aprilia here in the us because their customer service is shit but I decided on a transalp because Honda has parts everywhere in my opinion it's just as good😅
Glad you found your machine. Sadly for me, the Aprilia was the only one that ticked all the boxes for me! Guess I’ll be riding the Aprilia Roller coaster until the warranty runs out!
Of all the dealers within 100km of you how did you end up at a farm bike shed in the middle of nowhere is what I want to know.
I got skillz!! 😎
@@AndyManCam 🤣
Bike shouldn’t of been allowed out onto the road. Dealership should be given a right hook from the manufacturer.
I totally agree. The best bit is though, i reckon if I’d been kicked off, they’d have blamed me for the damage!
I don't blame you that you're pissed off with the German Service Dessert motorcycle ridiculousness!!! I mean WTAF!!??? As you know, it's nothing like that here (UK), which is very odd as the German market for bikes as I understand it is HUGE!! (but perhaps the German "BMW" m/c market is huge, other manufacturers not so much??) Keep the faith and I hope you find your solution soon, buying a new bike is meant to be a momentous and special occasion (unless you're one of those people who chooses to change your bike every 1 - 2 years, which I don't think you are...). Good Luck and great video regardless. Cheers!
I try not to be! 😅 It is weird but at the same time not. The core of the problem (in my opinion) is that there are always more customers than products in Germany. There is always this belief that ‚if you don’t buy it somebody else will‘. And so there’s no desire to make the customers happy.
Sounds like you just need to go get pissed and forget all about it; sometimes you just need to say bugger and smash it. Norden have a better bike anyhow try the 901.
I decided to see past the antics of the dealership and went with one of these. So far i do not regret it!
It could be that it is NOT the fault of the dealer with the wobbly front tire.
It is known that some of the first charges of the PIRELLY SCORPION STR tires have balance issues. They had some problems in the production of the first batches of those tires.
You have to get a completely new front tire in that case.
No, in this case the wheel was clearly buckled. I could see it rippling from side to side.
Hats off to you for speaking so honestly about your experience with the dealer. My experience in GB is not so bad, but not far off including the service from BMW which everyone seems to rave about.
It needs to be said Ian. I think the motorcycle industry is a raging shit show and it won’t get any better until we the consumer start stamping our feet a little.
Your more patient then me. That front wheel would have been enough for me to turned round and take it back. If they apologized and fixed it I'd taken it back out. But it'd be enough to make me walk away. I'd check out another dealer
I think the 50 minute drive to get there tempered my response somewhat. I wanted for the drive to not be a complete waste of time, so soldiered on to find out what I could! I was also ready for them to apologise and try to fix it quick. The complete opposite attitude just stunned me.
I must be honest with you, if I just robbed a bank or am being chased by zombies and need to get away, I don't give a flying "Fee" about oil pressure or temp to prevent scorching the bearings or burning the piston rings,.... I'd much rather get away!!!
I totally agree! Though with the state of the front wheel, who's to say that it's not just a fudged ECU!
Andy it is not just Germany, NZ is the same. The word "Service" or "G00D Service" does not exist anymore. I have had bikes returned with crushed brake levers, tyres mounted back to front and fork seals still seeping after going in to have them replaced. Just do it myself now!
That’s such a shame. At this rate we’ll have to buy bikes Mail order, directly from the manufacturers. 🤦🏻♂️
Northern Germany, no bends. Suitable for training legions of Prussians to march in formation east or west. So there's that.
There definitely is that.
Yes, this attitude is common this days. Meh, clients will come anyway. Bike is worth to check up one more time, at another dealership. Good luck!
I agree. It showed me enough good points that it deserves further investigation.
We all literally put our lives in these mechanics hands. Anywhere in the world, you have to trust the bike is road worthy. Spending money at these establishments is dumb. 🇺🇸
I totally agree. And what’s the point of paying for a service, just to get the stamp and then having to check the bike over yourself to make sure it’s been done properly!!
Super video! Exactly my experience with Aprilia dealer and bike quality. Aprilia is done in North America. I ended buying Honda.
We have the best dealer ever in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
@@rustyupton168 That I believe and he must be making good salary. 😉
It’s a real shame, because the bike is fantastic! Sadly I’ve dealt with three aprilia dealers now and two of them i will never visit ever again. The third one is on shaky ground due to vastly overinflated prices. But hey, if you’ve got no competition in the area…
Here Here Andy,they motorcycle business doesn’t deserve the customers they deal with.
Sad but true.
Strange, knowing how you still like to get a shift on and your previous bikes I’d have thought you would find this underpowered. Shocking dealer attitude!
I know it is weird. Especially as I DID find the Tracer 9 felt a bit breathless. But this just felt strong and torquey. Just enough that I reckon I'd be quite alright with it. TBH my old Versys 650 always had enough go to do what I wanted to do. I was just corrupted by power!!
Naw. Had you said that would be your next bike, I would have been majorly disappointed. 😜 Might be out of the price range and not exactly the kind of bike you are looking for, but have you had a look at the Moto Guzzi v100 Maranello?
Stunning bike but yes, way out of both my price range and what I'm looking for in a bike!
3:06 😆😆😆
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You buying motorcycles in wrong place...... Greek dealer's 90% do great work with customers and the prices are lower..
If only Greece was easier to get to! 😅
@@AndyManCam yes its true in every big town you can find official dealers, services and after market care....EU make it easier to buy , lot of guys from west European countries bought the motorcycle from Greek dealer's... Check Greek sites of big manufacturers how it is possible.
Yeah of course, i understand that it’s been made easier. But getting to Greece for the test ride is the real issue! 😂
@@AndyManCam Yes i understand others guys do it by them selves other guys took it by transferring..
Worth bearing in mind for the future! 👍🏻
Bring back Polly! :D
If it was me, I'd think about the other Aprilia dealership you mentioned. It sounds like (for the most part) you really enjoyed the bike, you were just given a crappy example to test.
If only there was an ADV sized version of Polly! I totally agree. The bike deserves a second look for sure.
Ok looks like my predictions i just mentioned on your last video were way off seen as your testing a tuareg... guessing itll be a T7 then or a desert x
Haha! I maybe could have offered more in terms of the criteria I'm working with! Desert X would be nice, but too much $$$
That indicator button not going to last long 😂😂
Unreal. You’re right not to spend any money there. I don’t understand it. You’d think they’d be bending over backwards to get your money off you. Shame, the bike did look nice.. apart from the massively dodgy 80s style fuel cap it had. Once I’d seen it I couldn’t stop be wondering why they thought that was the look they needed. Easy replaced I guess.😮
Totally! Except no. They were more focused on being right than getting a sale. Awesome sales craft. Didn’t even offer to take a look at it. I guarantee that bike has gone out for more test rides in the exact same condition.
I think the fuel cap is purely to save cost and weight. I can imagine it being a bit annoying that you have to put it somewhere while you’re filling up!
I just switched from a 2018 CB1000R to a 2023 KTM 890 Adventure R. One of the best decisions I have made in my motorcycle career. And they are offering great deals on them as the 2024s are due out. In the states at least.
I wish they would do that here too. But I’ve already seen dealerships selling old 890‘s for more than other dealerships are selling the new model!! It all makes no sense!!