The Greatest Recordings EVER! Shostakovich: "Babi Yar" Symphony

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  • @StanislavGres
    @StanislavGres 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks! For my taste, the 4th from this box is also one of the most outstanding performances of this symphony (in my opinion, even the best one).

  • @davidmeyer3565
    @davidmeyer3565 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many thanks again, David, for taking us through the 13th, Shostakovich's toughest Symphony, certainly one of his greatest.. The ending is extraordinary and so personal, daring to refer to what amounted to a lethal dilema in Stalin's Russia - to tell the truth or follow the party line (in order to live, have à career and feed the family).There's none of the familiar dubious triumphalism or resigned melancholy, but a subtle and haunting evocation of the artist's desire (and duty) to speak truth to power for that's all he can and must do.There's no inflated, tub-thumping that that's what he will always do. But it does come at the end of a work that does just that.
    I have an early recording of a live 1970 performance under Muti finely sung by Ruggero Raimondi. It's a testament to his affinity to the work (how many conductors recorded it twice?) The Italian orchestra plays almost tentatively at first, as if nervous of the piece, but by the end it becomes very moving, as if the performers are discovering how powerful this relatively new work is just as they perform it for the first time. Maybe it was the first performance in Italy.

  • @imitatio
    @imitatio หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dave - thanks for this! If ever there was a time for this piece - written for the ages - it is now; right now! I have the Haitink and the Barshai - so sorry he wasted his gifts in my home town (Vancouver). Also had the privilege of hearing Muti live with the CSO. Multi has a very high, earnest view of the moral and spiritual possibilities inherent in music. He wears it with humility: and it confers on him a certain authority.
    And thanks to you for making music matter. A great support to all of us who can’t imagine life without it!

  • @slubert
    @slubert หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Couldn't agree more. Barshai set is a must have/listen

  • @jgesselberty
    @jgesselberty หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I bought this set, based on your recommendation and it is my "go to" for any of the symphonies.

  • @franz-josefknelangen1353
    @franz-josefknelangen1353 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I already had the Kondrashin, Haitink, Rostropovich, Petrenko sets and bought this after Dave first mentioned the "Death" quality of the recording - and, indeed, he was right! Then I discovered the Kondrashin recording that was done on 20. Dec. 1962, 2 days after the premiere - available with surprisingly good sonics at Praga Digitals - and now I'm sold on this one. To add a very special experience: Teodor Currentzis, who opened his last season with the SWR Orchestra performing Babi Yar, did something I will never forget and now "see" every time I listen to the 13th since that moment: at the start of the violin/viola duet ending the last movement (at [156] in the score) he lets the solo viola change places with the violin next to the concert master, and this brought a kind of intimacy to that duet that moved me to tears.

  • @JamesKubajak-c1i
    @JamesKubajak-c1i หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I regard No. 13 as Shostakovich's Magnum Opus!

  • @DennisKretzschmar-h1l
    @DennisKretzschmar-h1l หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bought the whole set used and very cheap some time ago. As it is the case with lots of other stuff bought on behalf of this channel it's still waiting for me to actually make use of it and listen to the music.

  • @PeterBreiner
    @PeterBreiner หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agreed on all points

  • @iainmacdonald8379
    @iainmacdonald8379 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That box was the first Shostakovich I owned, because the shop I worked in as a 17-year-old (which was the British equivalent of an American 7-Eleven) had a tiny discount CD rack, full of weird stuff, opposite the tills. Among the Mario Lanza and Tom Jones, this turned up, and I got it for a few pounds. I also got my first Grieg Piano Concerto from the Rack of Weirdness - Julius Katchen, Israel Philharmonic, Kertesz.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I got the Caballé/Davis Tosca in a similar way at a thrift store called Grant's when I was a kid. There it was, the only classical album in a sea of low-budget pop titles. How it got there is anyone's guess.

  • @davidforbes2795
    @davidforbes2795 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I remember the Kondrashin version on Everest. It was the first version available in the UK. The raw and rough recording almost enhanced the listening experience. Haunting, disturbing and yet compelling.

    • @geraldmartin7703
      @geraldmartin7703 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe that had the "expurgated" text-- of little importance if one doesn't speak Russian.

    • @taterdemalion1
      @taterdemalion1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, you are right. Mravinsky decided not to conduct it. We can speculate about the reason for this…… Kondrashin was a great Shostakovich interpreter

  • @cliffordbaker4930
    @cliffordbaker4930 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Agree. I have the box as my Shostakovich cycle and Haitink’s 13th as a supplement. Powerful music and a well-considered pick for our times.

  • @happywolfie1980
    @happywolfie1980 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My one and only set of Shostakovich symphonies, bought for it price but turns out to be amazing!

  • @Bezart34
    @Bezart34 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent presentation Dave, on an excellent masterpiece, expressed as only Shostakovich could. I have that very Barshai box, and it is all magnificent.

  • @michelangelomulieri5134
    @michelangelomulieri5134 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fully agree on everything you said! Great!

  • @danielo.masson353
    @danielo.masson353 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just had my first listening of this work and recording and can testify of its exceptional depth and broadness of scope. Sometimes, I feel new music lack of these. Of course, it is not new music except for your servant. I feel the way the finale seems to address the previous movements, in sound and form, especially the first makes it worthy of Beethoven's 9 th, one who would have known our times. I hope not to be too presumptuous and shallow, though this is a first approach and that I can still relisten and think with the help of your analysis and writings, among others. Thank you for allowing this almost first step.

  • @mikeknowles5848
    @mikeknowles5848 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was just playing this performance yesterday and thinking that this is the closest I've heard to a continuation of his operatic career after Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk. It has musical similarities which you find nowhere else in his work.

  • @sa8die
    @sa8die หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks ,. nice commentary,.

  • @murraylow4523
    @murraylow4523 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m not always in the mood for Shostakovich, so he’s one of those composers where I’m quite content with the recordings I have. This Barshsai set is excellent - surely it must be one of Brilliant Classics’ greatest successes. I also have Petrenko’s box, have heard the Haitink, and there are various singleton performances around here with the RCO, Karajan’s 10th, Markevich and Solti in the First etc. So I’m all set I think, and this is a remarkable 13th yes.

  • @ondrejsedo8659
    @ondrejsedo8659 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the tam-tam sound in this Barshai - WDR cycle. I do not know what brand the instrument was but everyone should use that one. I use the opening of the 4th movement of the 8th symphony as a ringtone, it always scares everyone around 🙂

    • @PeterBreiner
      @PeterBreiner หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Perfect 🙂

  • @rogermilne8563
    @rogermilne8563 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I started collecting Shostokovich symphonies back in the 70s I bought the Kondrashin recording on HMV/Melodiya (a 1972 recording). Not sure how many other Babi Yars were around back then. On CD I have the Haitink recording. Christmas is coming so I may treat myself to the Barshai box.

  • @DavidJohnson-of3vh
    @DavidJohnson-of3vh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The box I have. I am pleased with it, for sure. Did Ormandy do the premier recording of Babi Yar?

  • @jeffheller642
    @jeffheller642 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I wonder whether Shostakovich's Babi Yar is a nod in the direction of Mahler's Das Lied von der Erde, both structurally (a symphony comprised of orchestrated poems) and thematically?

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      No, that would be the 14th.

    • @MDK2_Radio
      @MDK2_Radio หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think you can say it is about both the 13th and 14th.

  • @hamidrezahabibi8111
    @hamidrezahabibi8111 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unfortunately it’s not available on Apple Music 🎶

    • @Godbluffer
      @Godbluffer หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      When you look for Shostakovich Barshai, the complete symphonies box should be there.

    • @hamidrezahabibi8111
      @hamidrezahabibi8111 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Godbluffer please send me the link

    • @Godbluffer
      @Godbluffer หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hamidrezahabibi8111 I posted a link here in response to you, but it’s gone now, so either Dave or TH-cam removed it. 😛 Where else may I try sending you the link?

  • @clementewerner
    @clementewerner หลายเดือนก่อน

    A small point given they were friends: the haunting end of the symphony, one strike of the bell, reminds me of the last note in Peter Grimes, a single, quiet strike on a cymbal.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Peter Grimes does not end with a cymbal stroke.

    • @clementewerner
      @clementewerner หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavesClassicalGuide True, but I thought it did and didn't check first. My bad. Nice thought though!

  • @alfonlongable
    @alfonlongable หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Listening to this work and many others by Shostakovich, I often have the cruel thought that we, modern listeners, have benefited from the fact that he lived under Stalin's terrible dictatorship.

    • @waynesmith3767
      @waynesmith3767 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No! I often think he would have been a better composer had he not lived under Stalin and even if that’s not so one man( among so many millions)suffering isn’t worth it.

    • @bbailey7818
      @bbailey7818 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Without that malign factor, I think we would have had more operas from DSCH on the level of the two he wrote. But would we have had a 5th symphony, etc? Who knows.