It's cool dude, you're the one who looks like an idiot now. I was referring to the most unfunny "comedians" I could think of off the top of my head. I know you're not "Merican, because you spelled "humor" wrong, but do you have a thing called sarcasm there?
I hope the supporters of the Pussygrabber in chief hound her down at every job she has and get her fired... For once they can use their dark hateful minds for something positive.
Wow, Cenk is actually making reasonable sense here? He just said Obama's severed head would've had a much worse reaction. Really glad that someone of his side would admit this.
Trump also suggested that second amendment activists assassinate Hillary Clinton, encouraged his supporters to assault protestors, joked about admiring Putin for having journalists killed, and never condemned the wave of hate crimes in his name or disavowed his endorsement from the KKK. He never apologized for those things. Griffin at her lowest still has the moral high ground over Trump. You think he audience of catty gay guys are going to go out and try to behead someone because of her twitter feed? Nah. It's tacky and it's adding on to an already toxic climate, but it's not actually hurting anyone.
Hmmm...what's worse: a COMMEDIENE (who is not an official representative whatsoever) crossing the line with a joke OR a sitting president saying someone should "take her out" (in regards to Hillary) and inviting someone who made death threats to the previous president. Hmmm...so hard to figure that one out.
I'm not a conservative, I'm a classic liberal who doesn't relate AT ALL with this new-age liberalism crap. But... I think it's important to note that Ana and Cenk are quick to accept an apology from someone from the left, but had a conservative done a photoshoot like this, they would be attacking them relentlessly and would not accept their apology and brush the situation under the rug like they do in this video. DOUBLE-STANDARD, and that's what this whole neo-liberalism is all about.
Generally speaking, I think you're right. But in this video, Cenk sounded quite rational. He basically said that what Kathy did was worse than anything Sean Hannity's said on the air, and CNN was right to can her.
Lil Heinz94 Nonsense, he won because Hillary was a shill and people had a hard time holding their nose and voting for the status quo so they stayed home. People are tired of the same old and no matter what a cancer trump was to many at least he was not the same old. The dems promised stasis and Hillary was a terrible candidate, that is why they lost.
I have no problem with what Kathy did. I would have no problem if a Republican also held a decapitated head of trump. Both of them would be doing something very patriotic.
iiswansongii She should apologize to Trump...right after he condemns the people at his rallies who had HRC masks on "pikes". I saw more than one. I'm sure that disturbed Chelsea. Oh, and when he said the "second amendment people" could "take care" or HRC, I'm sure Chelsea slept great at night.
Trump didn't rape anybody, and the only people he called for violence against were people who were being violent at his rallies against him. "If you see somebody throwing a tomato, knock the crap out of them".
+t y Trump didn't claim he said "mommy", TMZ did. And if you think Hillary, the woman who overthrew and destabilized the nation of Libya and had Gaddafi killed, just to appease her donors in the oil industry who will be enriched by uninhibited access to Libya's oil and her military industry special interest donors, then laughed about it on television, deserves an apology, you are a sick person. Trump hasn't done anything nearly that disgusting. Angela Merkel's government arrests people for criticizing her immigration and refugee policies. You can call them racist (even though they're not) but if you think they deserve government forced punishment for speaking out against what they perceive as being forced into being around a less civilized culture (rightly so), then I again think you are sick. He most definitely doesn't owe the woman who fantasized about holding his severed head. You are unbelievably disgusting if you think he does.
Ana Kasperian seemed to think it was ok 4:24 (btw im not republican). I think that what she did is disgraceful regardless of your political alignment. She seems to try to justify it. Cenk is the voice of reason here
Hell you repukelicans hung President Obama in effigy hundreds of times if no thousands. You are HYPOCRITES. In the dictionary, the number one definition is repukelican. It funny drump and his drumpsters have skin thinner than a onion and smell worse. Get a life.
Scott Hunt it's different.. Kathy Griffin had a following and Worked for a giant news Network. The people who did the Obama hanging shit were just people. Just people without a following. This bitch was a public figure and she shot a video of her holding the severed head of OUR president. It's a hell of a lot different bud.
I'd never apologize. I have the mindset now that once I do something I've worked on or say something and mean it, I'm sticking by it. Who cares what the public thinks
it's not even that she crossed the line, but she should have doubled down on the similarities to the racist twats that did the same things with Obama effigies. if your joke isn't funny, MAKE IT FUNNY. "Women are smart and funny, get over it". ok. sorry.
When you depict the president being beheaded, that crosses a clear line. Shouldn't matter whether you like him or not. Just saying the president should die should be recognized as a threat and crime.
entertainers should never get into politics to further themselves. you are maybe cutting off half your audiance. now she will forever be rememberedfor this
A genuine apology? The first words out of her mouth were, "I'm just now seeing the reactions..." She was just apologizing just based on the reactions, not conscience. And now, two days later, she's saying SHE'S the victim? And wow, you guys say Anderson Cooper was too harsh?! What the hell is wrong with you guys?!
*"I don't think liberals would act like this if a famous rightwinger did this with Obama's head..."* It's moments like this that show how sheltered Ana is. Deep in a bubble.
Fact is the Right Wing did do this sort of thing in front of the white house and even in festivals... Hey but it was ok...... so why does she have to say sorry ... I don't recall any Republican saying sorry for all the nasty photos and depiction of Obama being hang / burned /decapitated... Search the net you will find them easy.
Gwen Wolf 1. Most them were just dickheads, she's a national figure with a national audience. 2. She played right into Trumps victimhood complex and enabled him to distract from the shitheap he's making of the presidency. 3. its pathetic attention seeking behavior from someone who ought to know better, and played right into the alt-right narrative of "its the left that are violent".
The Obama effigies were sick, just as sick or more so than this. But those weren't conservative public figures doing it, or they would have lost all their sponsors as well. Just for some perspective, Trump received 100 TIMES the number of death threats Obama received during his 8 years in office on social media before he was even inaugurated. You are pathetically mistaken if you think Obama was subjected to the same amount of scrutiny and utter hatred that the media is intentionally creating for Trump.
I agree that the Kathy Griffin picture crossed the line. If comedy was her intent, she could have done better. For example, she could have been dressed in a surgical cap and gown, holding the severed head, and captioned the photo, "We found the source of the President's constipation, and surgically removed it from his rectum, where it had been lodged for over twenty years."
I think that you have a great point, Orden Just. I also think that if she wanted it to be more artful, she could have maybe taken a few notes from Peter Paul Reubens, Gustav Klimt, Lucas Chranach, etc and their depictions of Judith with the head of Holofernes. If she would have been emulating (for instance) Gustav Klimt's painting by dressing in gold with the Trump logo behind her holding the non-bloodied head of Trump, then I think that could at least pass for art or an homage to a work of art. I think then she would have had a lot more support for something more comedic or something that's noticeably artful than the image that she chose to post.
How about Donald Jr. posing with innocent animals he and Eric murdered in Africa. I supposed that is OK for his apologists? Kathy did not murder anyone. 45 killed our standing in the world and has incited violence on more than one time during his speeches and rallies. Remember him saying he could shoot someone and not loose any votes? 45 is a horrible, disgusting, vile and evil person without any redeeming qualities and this applies to all who surround him as well. I do like what you stated about the source of his constipation. That gave me quite a chuckle.
+t y He's actually probably the least of all those things that we've had in 30 or so years. All our presidents have been funded by the oil companies, the defense industry, big pharma, and several other special interests and lobbyist causes, with complacence by the media, for decades now. Trump is not, everything he does is, in his mind, done in our best interest. He won't start a war to appease his donors like Bush, or bomb and overthrow countries like everyone since Reagan. Hillary wanted a war with Russia. You can dispute whether his policies will actually cause the economic prosperity he is aiming for, but to suggest that he is evil and intentionally sabotaging us is laughable, especially if you think Hillary or Obama had pure intentions.
In the past, Cenk has been willing to extend plenty of slack to comedians for going over the line. I like that about him. Not seeing any of this here for Kathy Griffin. Very disappointing. Comedians should get a pass for stuff like this. Cutting off the head of the court jester just means there's stuff you can't jest about, and that's dangerous in any society.
I see your point, but I believe Cenk's point here was that ..in this case, it was ...too much.....just too graphic. I agree with Cenk. There are limits. It was just totally in poor taste. Foul.
it's okay for jimmy to attack hillary with parkinson lies, it's ok for cenk to make hillary look dead becos u know she's the evil witch of the year, it's not ok for comedian griffin to make a dead trump with some lame halloween tricks..
Comedians cross the line into poor taste all the time. For some of them, it's their schtick. Still not buying it. I don't find the trump head image hilarious, but meh, I don't see what all the shouting's about.
I dont really care too much about the head thing. I dont find too much offensive. I just dont understand why ? There was no joke attached to the photo, it wasnt referencing anything. It was just a photo of you holding a severed head. Not funny at all, just stupid.
She probably thinks she would gain popularity off of it, especially since she thinks people are against President Trump. She took a bold risk to try to favor to the people who really despise Trump enough to want him dead.
Fritz the Cat the thing that makes it worse is that she did know she was going to get this much backlash. there is a video of her talking and making a joke about going to Mexico because of the backlash she would receive.
Absolutely ridiculous, protect the first amendment! You don't have to like it, but everyone must protect the right to express your art, no Matter how it looks like.
Ana Carrasquel-Edge so then you stand with conservatives that are getting censored on Facebook Twitter and TH-cam? you're against antifa shutting down conservative speakers too, right?
Of course she has the RIGHT to do that. No one's saying she doesn't. But you can't just say or express something like that and expect to not be held accountable for it. Actions have consequences.
Bingo!!! Pinkie. You don't play the gender card. You don't blame white men (as she did in her press conference), you accept the consequences (i.e., loss of income, sponsorship, reputation, etc.,) for your actions.
uutuber431 and there are "literally" fake news stories on CNN and msnbc every hour. thanks for the "tell" you SJWs abuse the word "literally" more than you cry "Russia". honestly, do you just drop the word in the sentence randomly or is there a method here?
Ana Carrasquel-Edge If she came out black face and use the n word called a black person an ape would you still say that? I personally don't like name calling and don't use it. If I was going make a joke about you. My rule is if you can't laugh about it, it isn't funny.
You guys are so far left you can't even watch that non-apology and understand how wrong that was as well. She didn't apologize to the person who she should have - Donald Trump - or his family. She states very clearly that she was apologizing due to the reactions she saw on social media, NOT because she truly understands what she did was wrong.
Apparently the media appears to have already forgotten about Death of a President (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)). What Kathy Griffin did wasn't anything worse than what was depicted in that film, which had a limited release in the US and even won 6 awards on top of that.
I'm pretty sure this is not going to hurt her. The last thing I saw her in was an episode of the X-Files in the 90s, so its not that she is relying on TV/film work to survive anyway. She's probably rich enough to not work another day in her life.
Am I alone in thinking it wasn't a big deal? I am annoyed that people get more upset about a depiction of violence than actual violence that happens everyday.
Not a bad discussion so credit is given where credit is due. You folks do much better when you stay calm. I don't care about Kathy Griffin either way. She practiced mean spirited comedy (which is an accepted form of comedy) and her chickens came home to roost when she finally overreached herself. She, in my opinion, is not a player in any event and I think the media went nuts when it did not need too. I agree, tactically, her apologies are making it worse rather than better. She should have shrugged it off and moved on. She would have needed to reinvent herself, but that gets done, but with the apology she just looks insincere as the apology was clearly done for economic reasons as was pointed out in the conversation.
I feel for you, Kathy Griffin. Be strong, it's not the end of the world. You will be alright without Anderson Cooper. Now you know who your real friends are and Anderson Cooper is not one of them. You did wrong and sincerely apologized. A true friend is one who will talk to you heart to heart first and not crucify you in public like what Anderson Cooper did to you. Take care.
It didn't seem like a "genuine apology" Ana. Don't be so naive. Her words were self-serving and her body language indicated insincerity. She's sorry she damaged her career.
I wish Liberals would stop saying she gave a sincere apology. I'm no body language expert but damn, how much eye rolling do you have to see before you realize that was one of the most B.S. apologies I've seen in recent memory. It wreaked of, "I'm a comedian. What do you want from me?"
Kudos to Kathy, once for having the balls to post that image, not for the idea itself, which was bad, but for the balls, and then second for owning up to the mistake and realizing it and apologizing for it, sincerely. So kudos for double pairs of balls.
It doesn't matter WHO it would have been done to. Democrat or Republican, it is WRONG. It is a US President, you do not have to agree or like them, but show them basic human decency.
That was some apology... what disturbs me , is that she and others put alot of effort into creating the idea, the prop, the shoot, etc..... and not once did anyone realize that not only was it not funny, but it was a bad idea, disturbing, and sick on too many levels to even get into..... and here is my point, really.... People like this exist, and they encourage one another, they plan and perpetuate evil ideas,...So now she is like wow I thought I was going to be applauded.... and now she gets it? Really? I don't think she does.... sick.
I'm a fan of Kathy but I'm not buying this "I'm so sorry" thing she's playing out. Where was all this when she agreed to do the photo shoot? Where was all this when she decided to share this image on her Twitter account? She knew what she was doing. And at the time she didn't see anything wrong with it, otherwise she would not have taken part in it and certainly not shared it on her social media account. So she isn't sorry about this, she's sorry about people's reaction and that it's causing her to have to deal with the consequences. I can't feel sorry for her because of this, and she deserves to be criticized.
I guess she have no reason to laugh after her's bosses cut the head off of her career :-) Now THAT is laughable because she's like Krusty the clown from "Simpsons" now
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I think Griffin only apologized in an attempt to cover her own ass. She didn't mean it.
to j.r. I demand the immediate arrest of this griffin piece-of-shit. She should be arrested and be-headed in public as an example to others.
Jesus H. Christ J.R,
Did you have to put that image in my head?
Her ass.......come on dude,
That wasn't an apology, that was PR.
....actually, maybe, a not-so-veiled reference to the guillotine and the modern revolution.
I'm starting to like Kathy Griffin more and more now not because she held a fake Donald Trump head because shes funny, and crazy
LOL that was a genuine apology? Eyes rolling back 3 times! super genuine
Jason Scott She looked drugged.
Jason Scott she wanted to apologize as much as I want herpes
Another point: Kathy Griffin has never been funny.
I think she's funny. infact, she's the best of all time.
I agree! She's right up there with Jeff Dunham, Margaret Cho, a bunch of fat dudes talking about food, and Gallagher!
It's cool dude, you're the one who looks like an idiot now. I was referring to the most unfunny "comedians" I could think of off the top of my head. I know you're not "Merican, because you spelled "humor" wrong, but do you have a thing called sarcasm there?
She can't debate real issues, so she does these cheap tricks for attention.
Paul Grosfield 💯 agree
Wow. She loses 2 days of work a year.
sherrie Moon made me chuckle
I hope the supporters of the Pussygrabber in chief hound her down at every job she has and get her fired... For once they can use their dark hateful minds for something positive.
sherrie Moon Which she probably gets paid millions of dollars for...
she has millions and awards and oh yeah at least 17 comedy specials which make her money everyday of the year....
nikada vise , yes she makes money not you. Sorry for you hahaha!
Wow, Cenk is actually making reasonable sense here? He just said Obama's severed head would've had a much worse reaction. Really glad that someone of his side would admit this.
I agree Griffin went WAY over the line, but Trump did defend Ted Nugent when he called for the beheading of Obama and Hillary. Just saying.
Trump also suggested that second amendment activists assassinate Hillary Clinton, encouraged his supporters to assault protestors, joked about admiring Putin for having journalists killed, and never condemned the wave of hate crimes in his name or disavowed his endorsement from the KKK. He never apologized for those things. Griffin at her lowest still has the moral high ground over Trump. You think he audience of catty gay guys are going to go out and try to behead someone because of her twitter feed? Nah. It's tacky and it's adding on to an already toxic climate, but it's not actually hurting anyone.
Hmmm...what's worse: a COMMEDIENE (who is not an official representative whatsoever) crossing the line with a joke OR a sitting president saying someone should "take her out" (in regards to Hillary) and inviting someone who made death threats to the previous president.
Hmmm...so hard to figure that one out.
jarjon76 funny how people forget
CNN has higher standards than the Republican Party. We've known that for a long time.
jargon guest they all lost there head over it
Living in a country that holds comedians to higher standards than its President.
I'm not a conservative, I'm a classic liberal who doesn't relate AT ALL with this new-age liberalism crap. But... I think it's important to note that Ana and Cenk are quick to accept an apology from someone from the left, but had a conservative done a photoshoot like this, they would be attacking them relentlessly and would not accept their apology and brush the situation under the rug like they do in this video.
DOUBLE-STANDARD, and that's what this whole neo-liberalism is all about.
Generally speaking, I think you're right. But in this video, Cenk sounded quite rational. He basically said that what Kathy did was worse than anything Sean Hannity's said on the air, and CNN was right to can her.
Fenix hear hear!!!
Lil Heinz94 Nonsense, he won because Hillary was a shill and people had a hard time holding their nose and voting for the status quo so they stayed home. People are tired of the same old and no matter what a cancer trump was to many at least he was not the same old. The dems promised stasis and Hillary was a terrible candidate, that is why they lost.
I have no problem with what Kathy did. I would have no problem if a Republican also held a decapitated head of trump. Both of them would be doing something very patriotic.
Would you have a problem if that had been done with Obama or Killary?
She apologized to the public...but she didn't to Trump directly. That is where it lacked sincerity to alot of people.
That and the fact that she blatantly lying about that apology. She's rolling her eyes and nodding her head "no" during the whole thing.
iiswansongii She should apologize to Trump...right after he condemns the people at his rallies who had HRC masks on "pikes". I saw more than one. I'm sure that disturbed Chelsea. Oh, and when he said the "second amendment people" could "take care" or HRC, I'm sure Chelsea slept great at night.
iiswansongii Trump should apologize to the American people
Trump didn't rape anybody, and the only people he called for violence against were people who were being violent at his rallies against him. "If you see somebody throwing a tomato, knock the crap out of them".
+t y
Trump didn't claim he said "mommy", TMZ did. And if you think Hillary, the woman who overthrew and destabilized the nation of Libya and had Gaddafi killed, just to appease her donors in the oil industry who will be enriched by uninhibited access to Libya's oil and her military industry special interest donors, then laughed about it on television, deserves an apology, you are a sick person. Trump hasn't done anything nearly that disgusting.
Angela Merkel's government arrests people for criticizing her immigration and refugee policies. You can call them racist (even though they're not) but if you think they deserve government forced punishment for speaking out against what they perceive as being forced into being around a less civilized culture (rightly so), then I again think you are sick.
He most definitely doesn't owe the woman who fantasized about holding his severed head. You are unbelievably disgusting if you think he does.
she deserved it, regardless what you think of Trump, I think she crossed a line. if someone did this to Bernie Sanders TYT would lose their minds
Did you watch the video? TYT did lose their minds over this. They didn't defend her at all. They don't have a double standard. Wrong is wrong.
Ana Kasperian seemed to think it was ok 4:24 (btw im not republican). I think that what she did is disgraceful regardless of your political alignment. She seems to try to justify it. Cenk is the voice of reason here
Hell you repukelicans hung President Obama in effigy hundreds of times if no thousands. You are HYPOCRITES. In the dictionary, the number one definition is repukelican. It funny drump and his drumpsters have skin thinner than a onion and smell worse. Get a life.
NO she is not.
Scott Hunt it's different.. Kathy Griffin had a following and Worked for a giant news Network. The people who did the Obama hanging shit were just people. Just people without a following. This bitch was a public figure and she shot a video of her holding the severed head of OUR president. It's a hell of a lot different bud.
Her eye movement proves she doesn't care
drew rettke ..She should next time hold the severed leg
drew rettke One eye is badly damaged. They look odd. You shouldn't infer anything about her sincerity from her eyes.
ESPECIALLY after her dumb press conference
drew rettke I
Omega Juicer her eyes were just fine in the photo which means they should be fine in the apology she made.
I did not have sexual relations with that severed head. Too soon?
lmaoooooo finally i wont have to see her face when im spending new years with the family for once
...and they manage to blame Trump, even now. Wow.
she should be arrested to
I thought it was a FED crime to threaten the President of USA.
I'd never apologize. I have the mindset now that once I do something I've worked on or say something and mean it, I'm sticking by it. Who cares what the public thinks
Employer has the final say to your lifeline. yikes
I don't accept her apology.
I didn't even know she worked for CNN
get over it, she deserves all of the feedback...
"Im a comic, I cross the line."
This is how you know America is too uptight.
ok at least you're consistent on this one
Tony Stark what about you losing to captain America and don't trust spiderman saving New York mr stark
it's not even that she crossed the line, but she should have doubled down on the similarities to the racist twats that did the same things with Obama effigies. if your joke isn't funny, MAKE IT FUNNY. "Women are smart and funny, get over it". ok. sorry.
When you depict the president being beheaded, that crosses a clear line. Shouldn't matter whether you like him or not. Just saying the president should die should be recognized as a threat and crime.
The line she crossed was being unfunny. There is no punchline. As a comedian you can't forget the punchline. People are noticing.
Griffin crossed the line. Threatening a president, even Trump, is out of line.
It wasn't a threat. It was free speech.
entertainers should never get into politics to further themselves. you are maybe cutting off half your audiance. now she will forever be rememberedfor this
A genuine apology? The first words out of her mouth were, "I'm just now seeing the reactions..." She was just apologizing just based on the reactions, not conscience. And now, two days later, she's saying SHE'S the victim? And wow, you guys say Anderson Cooper was too harsh?! What the hell is wrong with you guys?!
Yes she deserve it.
"I JUST WANT REASONABLE DISCUSSION!!!"
*"I don't think liberals would act like this if a famous rightwinger did this with Obama's head..."*
It's moments like this that show how sheltered Ana is. Deep in a bubble.
Titus Orelius Not what she said....she said the opposite...watch it again...
Fact is the Right Wing did do this sort of thing in front of the white house and even in festivals... Hey but it was ok...... so why does she have to say sorry ... I don't recall any Republican saying sorry for all the nasty photos and depiction of Obama being hang / burned /decapitated... Search the net you will find them easy.
Gwen Wolf 1. Most them were just dickheads, she's a national figure with a national audience.
2. She played right into Trumps victimhood complex and enabled him to distract from the shitheap he's making of the presidency.
3. its pathetic attention seeking behavior from someone who ought to know better, and played right into the alt-right narrative of "its the left that are violent".
The Obama effigies were sick, just as sick or more so than this. But those weren't conservative public figures doing it, or they would have lost all their sponsors as well.
Just for some perspective, Trump received 100 TIMES the number of death threats Obama received during his 8 years in office on social media before he was even inaugurated. You are pathetically mistaken if you think Obama was subjected to the same amount of scrutiny and utter hatred that the media is intentionally creating for Trump.
Not a genuine apology just a personal attempt to a recovery to a failing comedy career .
I agree that the Kathy Griffin picture crossed the line. If comedy was her intent, she could have done better. For example, she could have been dressed in a surgical cap and gown, holding the severed head, and captioned the photo, "We found the source of the President's constipation, and surgically removed it from his rectum, where it had been lodged for over twenty years."
I think that you have a great point, Orden Just. I also think that if she wanted it to be more artful, she could have maybe taken a few notes from Peter Paul Reubens, Gustav Klimt, Lucas Chranach, etc and their depictions of Judith with the head of Holofernes. If she would have been emulating (for instance) Gustav Klimt's painting by dressing in gold with the Trump logo behind her holding the non-bloodied head of Trump, then I think that could at least pass for art or an homage to a work of art. I think then she would have had a lot more support for something more comedic or something that's noticeably artful than the image that she chose to post.
Sure. Why not use a black man's head or a jew's head or a woman's head. That would be funny, too, right ?
How about Donald Jr. posing with innocent animals he and Eric murdered in Africa. I supposed that is OK for his apologists? Kathy did not murder anyone. 45 killed our standing in the world and has incited violence on more than one time during his speeches and rallies. Remember him saying he could shoot someone and not loose any votes? 45 is a horrible, disgusting, vile and evil person without any redeeming qualities and this applies to all who surround him as well. I do like what you stated about the source of his constipation. That gave me quite a chuckle.
+t y
He's actually probably the least of all those things that we've had in 30 or so years. All our presidents have been funded by the oil companies, the defense industry, big pharma, and several other special interests and lobbyist causes, with complacence by the media, for decades now. Trump is not, everything he does is, in his mind, done in our best interest. He won't start a war to appease his donors like Bush, or bomb and overthrow countries like everyone since Reagan. Hillary wanted a war with Russia. You can dispute whether his policies will actually cause the economic prosperity he is aiming for, but to suggest that he is evil and intentionally sabotaging us is laughable, especially if you think Hillary or Obama had pure intentions.
I agree, I think the backlash would be worse if the tables were turned.
In the past, Cenk has been willing to extend plenty of slack to comedians for going over the line. I like that about him. Not seeing any of this here for Kathy Griffin. Very disappointing. Comedians should get a pass for stuff like this. Cutting off the head of the court jester just means there's stuff you can't jest about, and that's dangerous in any society.
I see your point, but I believe Cenk's point here was that ..in this case, it was ...too much.....just too graphic. I agree with Cenk. There are limits. It was just totally in poor taste. Foul.
it's okay for jimmy to attack hillary with parkinson lies, it's ok for cenk to make hillary look dead becos u know she's the evil witch of the year, it's not ok for comedian griffin to make a dead trump with some lame halloween tricks..
I don't know if he's ever given slack to a comedian for violent imagery. Violence of any sort is often the line for most principled progressives.
Comedians cross the line into poor taste all the time. For some of them, it's their schtick. Still not buying it. I don't find the trump head image hilarious, but meh, I don't see what all the shouting's about.
Exactly. Though I don't know if Cenk is exactly Trump's friend here. I suspect he's just engaging in progressive prudery.
George Carlin was a real comic Richard Pryor was a real comic ....Kathy Griffith is not a comedian
That was not an apology. She is not funny. Neither are you.
I dont really care too much about the head thing. I dont find too much offensive.
I just dont understand why ?
There was no joke attached to the photo, it wasnt referencing anything.
It was just a photo of you holding a severed head. Not funny at all, just stupid.
She probably thinks she would gain popularity off of it, especially since she thinks people are against President Trump. She took a bold risk to try to favor to the people who really despise Trump enough to want him dead.
Genuine apology Ana?
Are you kidding me?
I dislike DT like the next level headed American. However, KG DID go too far.
She even said she only apologized AFTER she saw the backlash.
Apology not accepted.
I'm troubleb when I agree with Cenk even just a little, makes me want to go and bath.
So we can defend freedom of speech and expression in all cases BUT violent imagery? Ridiculous.
i cant believe she didnt ask herself if she was going too far. it was a severed head of the potus.
Fritz the Cat the thing that makes it worse is that she did know she was going to get this much backlash. there is a video of her talking and making a joke about going to Mexico because of the backlash she would receive.
That apology sucked!
FINALLY
JUSTICE SERVED BY CNN THEMSELVES!!!!!!
ITS A MIRACLE
False flag! They are just trying to regain credibility! lol
Kathy Griffin threw herself under the bus.
What happened to freedom of speech that you value so much? When it's for political reasons you take action otherwise you don't.
Was she arrested or stopped from speaking by the government?
If you roll your eyes during an apology......you're not apologizing.
Bill Clinton loved head, especially from the interns.
her under the bus "duh deh du deh" was more funny than anything Kathy ever did
Absolutely ridiculous, protect the first amendment! You don't have to like it, but everyone must protect the right to express your art, no Matter how it looks like.
Ana Carrasquel-Edge so then you stand with conservatives that are getting censored on Facebook Twitter and TH-cam? you're against antifa shutting down conservative speakers too, right?
Of course she has the RIGHT to do that. No one's saying she doesn't. But you can't just say or express something like that and expect to not be held accountable for it. Actions have consequences.
Bingo!!! Pinkie. You don't play the gender card. You don't blame white men (as she did in her press conference), you accept the consequences (i.e., loss of income, sponsorship, reputation, etc.,) for your actions.
uutuber431 and there are "literally" fake news stories on CNN and msnbc every hour.
thanks for the "tell" you SJWs abuse the word "literally" more than you cry "Russia". honestly, do you just drop the word in the sentence randomly or is there a method here?
Ana Carrasquel-Edge If she came out black face and use the n word called a black person an ape would you still say that?
I personally don't like name calling and don't use it. If I was going make a joke about you. My rule is if you can't laugh about it, it isn't funny.
I don't think she deserves to be fired for her opinion, just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean that they need to lose their livelihood.
You guys are so far left you can't even watch that non-apology and understand how wrong that was as well. She didn't apologize to the person who she should have - Donald Trump - or his family. She states very clearly that she was apologizing due to the reactions she saw on social media, NOT because she truly understands what she did was wrong.
That was the least sincere apology I ever heard Ana.
Did it not once cross her mind how crazy it look
im fine with it, but why was it on the news? you dont show that stuff on public tv.
NEVER APOLOGIZE!
The backpedalling is strong with this one.
Ugly Griffin: :"I'm a comic..." No, you got that bit wrong
It was better than "I misspoke" or "If I offended anybody". She said she's sorry. I'm done.
The word for the day is BEHEADED: Kathy Griffin BEHEADED to the unemployment line!
"Everyone's trying to grab *attention* these days": so true. . .; the world has turned into one big High School Popularity Contest. : (
Apparently the media appears to have already forgotten about Death of a President (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)). What Kathy Griffin did wasn't anything worse than what was depicted in that film, which had a limited release in the US and even won 6 awards on top of that.
That was NOT a sincere apology...
A "genuine" apology would have been made to the President and his family, not just random squeamish people.
To be fair cenk is talking sense here, credit where credit is due
her apology worked and then she ruined it.
I'm pretty sure this is not going to hurt her. The last thing I saw her in was an episode of the X-Files in the 90s, so its not that she is relying on TV/film work to survive anyway. She's probably rich enough to not work another day in her life.
That apology had as much sincerity in it as me farting and waving in my friends face. her rolling her eyes constantly shows she really didn't mean it
Any employer would fire an employee doing something like this. If Nugent had a boss, then he'd have been fired.
I know comedy and there was absolutely no attempt to be funny here. This was a political statement.
Just like most people, she is not sorry she did it, she's sorry she got in trouble for it!
Am I alone in thinking it wasn't a big deal? I am annoyed that people get more upset about a depiction of violence than actual violence that happens everyday.
She is apologizing because she will lose a lot of money for what she did.
Trump: "I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and hold up my own severed head and I wouldn't lose voters."
Not a bad discussion so credit is given where credit is due. You folks do much better when you stay calm. I don't care about Kathy Griffin either way. She practiced mean spirited comedy (which is an accepted form of comedy) and her chickens came home to roost when she finally overreached herself. She, in my opinion, is not a player in any event and I think the media went nuts when it did not need too. I agree, tactically, her apologies are making it worse rather than better. She should have shrugged it off and moved on. She would have needed to reinvent herself, but that gets done, but with the apology she just looks insincere as the apology was clearly done for economic reasons as was pointed out in the conversation.
She should be apologizing because it's not real. If it was real, she should be commended. She should also be apologizing for her long unfunny career.
she meant it. I accept her apology.
Her second apology should have included an apology for her first apology, her first apology was more damaging then anything else in this situation.
She should be apologizing that his head isn't on a spike. lmfao
@ 3:17 Ana- "What?!" She just sounded so livid 😂😂
I'm glad that comedians are held to higher standards than the heads of countries.
I feel for you, Kathy Griffin. Be strong, it's not the end of the world. You will be alright without Anderson Cooper. Now you know who your real friends are and Anderson Cooper is not one of them. You did wrong and sincerely apologized. A true friend is one who will talk to you heart to heart first and not crucify you in public like what Anderson Cooper did to you. Take care.
It didn't seem like a "genuine apology" Ana. Don't be so naive. Her words were self-serving and her body language indicated insincerity. She's sorry she damaged her career.
Notice how they never have the respect to call him president Trump ?
Respect is earned...not given.
She should not be fired for this. I do not agree with what she did, but she should not have been fired.
That was not sincere. She was shaking her head and closing her eyes telegraphing her insincerity.
If Trump doesnt have to apologize for all the crap he says then neither should she.
That apology was BS! She knew what she was doing as she told her camera man that they may both have to move to Mexico after releasing this footage.
I wish Liberals would stop saying she gave a sincere apology. I'm no body language expert but damn, how much eye rolling do you have to see before you realize that was one of the most B.S. apologies I've seen in recent memory. It wreaked of, "I'm a comedian. What do you want from me?"
I don't give a shit about any joke, but I don't expect no backlash.
Kudos to Kathy, once for having the balls to post that image, not for the idea itself, which was bad, but for the balls, and then second for owning up to the mistake and realizing it and apologizing for it, sincerely. So kudos for double pairs of balls.
It doesn't matter WHO it would have been done to. Democrat or Republican, it is WRONG. It is a US President, you do not have to agree or like them, but show them basic human decency.
That was some apology... what disturbs me , is that she and others put alot of effort into creating the idea, the prop, the shoot, etc..... and not once did anyone realize that not only was it not funny, but it was a bad idea, disturbing, and sick on too many levels to even get into..... and here is my point, really.... People like this exist, and they encourage one another, they plan and perpetuate evil ideas,...So now she is like wow I thought I was going to be applauded.... and now she gets it? Really? I don't think she does.... sick.
the funniest thing she has ever said ''I'm a comedian''....LOL.....that's funny!!
I'm a fan of Kathy but I'm not buying this "I'm so sorry" thing she's playing out. Where was all this when she agreed to do the photo shoot? Where was all this when she decided to share this image on her Twitter account? She knew what she was doing. And at the time she didn't see anything wrong with it, otherwise she would not have taken part in it and certainly not shared it on her social media account. So she isn't sorry about this, she's sorry about people's reaction and that it's causing her to have to deal with the consequences. I can't feel sorry for her because of this, and she deserves to be criticized.
My advice for Kathy is to cancel her comedy tour, lay low for a year, and we will all eventually talk about something else and semi-forget about this.
Griffin should never work in any media ever again.
So free speech is dead? Glad we have finally agreed to that concept.
Henry The Eighth would have roared with laughter, made Kathy Griffin his Queen and then when she failed to amuse him he would have had her beheaded.
I honestly hadn't given Kathy Griffin a single thought before this popped up in my news feed.
I guess she have no reason to laugh after her's bosses cut the head off of her career :-)
Now THAT is laughable because she's like Krusty the clown from "Simpsons" now
I hope she shut the lights off when she left her office. Wait a minute? She didn't have an office.