This woman is SO INFURIATING! She makes her living (probably much much more than I make) by spewing enabling language and false information. Her followers just want their unwillingness to say no to themselves to be validated. Disgusting
I can see it now-- Him: Well, I wanted to talk about and try out different things: new movies, a day at the beach, baseball game, art gallery, walking in the park... Friend: so, what did you guys try out or talk about? Him: Restaurant A, Restaurant B, Bakery This, Food Truck A, Food Truck B, Ice Cream Parlor That...
The bit about vegetables was seriously weird and uncomfortable. No one hates vegetables that much except small children. I've struggled with my weight my entire life, although I'm a healthy weight now, and I have always loved all sorts of vegetables. Eating them isn't a gross health-obsessed chore.
She equates eating vegetables to submitting to patriarchy. That's so freakin' childish. Basically everything that she doesn't likes = patriarchy. People around the world eat vegetables with their every meal Virgie.
For the longest time I thought I hated vegetables. Turns out, I just hated the way my mom cooked vegetables. Broccoli tastes great when it's not mushy.
these "fat activists" only eat heavy calorie foods that provide no health benefits whatsoever. being as someone who loves to cook healthy meals, they really can't accept that healthy meals CAN be really really delicious as well
I'm 16 and throughout my life I have gone through both ends of eating disorders. I was anorexic. Then due to the influence of activists, and alot of other factors. The idea of "eat whatever you want" got to me. To the point I began to binge on whatever food I wanted. I'm currently now in a battle, I'm seen as fatphobic and "not body positive". For simply just wanting my weight to be at a nice inbetween. And it shocks me that people will publicly claim that eating whatever the hell you want all the time, will do you any good. It's not fatphobic to want to be healthy
Lefties have been using the word "phobic" since the 1970s. Unless someone has a truly unreasonable fear of spiders, closed spaces, heights, etc., (i.e., the REAL meaning of a phobia) it's best to completely ignore the term. So much insanity from the far ends of both sides is killing us.
I hate when people claim someone is orthorexic just 'cause they are trying to improve their diet. It makes me wonder where the healthy line between the two extremes is.
As an overweight woman trying to regain my health, Virgie inspires me to exercise and put down the cookies because she seems so mean, angry and unhappy that I want to actively try to be less like her. Lol. Probably the opposite of what she is going for
As someone who works out like 6 days a week, I feel like if you are, as you put it, trying to regain your health, you aren’t really ‘fat’, as you are doing everything in your power to lose weight. It is therefore unfair to wholly characterize you as fat as long as you keep exercising and practicing moderation. Keep it up! You got this!
@@thetommyboi1796 thank you so much! I am technically obese, but I used to be really athletic, so I am watching what I eat and starting with gentle exercise like walking, swimming and yoga because I am worried that my heavy body would put too much pressure on my joints if I did anything too difficult to start out with. There are a lot of diabetics in my family and I don't want to become one, and it kinda scared me to see obesity being pushed as healthy when I know first hand how it feels to be obese vs. how I felt when I was athletic and I know the long-term effects second hand from watching my diabetic family members. The HAES philosophy is terrifying and discouraging to those of us who are not in denial about our problem and looking to fix it.
I am a fat person, but I am healthy, because I try to eat healthy, because I wanna live till I am at least 74, so that I can eat what I want now and then. I am 26 and two years ago I started getting liver problems because I don't have a gall bladder and my liver was getting weak. I did some tests and the results scared me. So I started controlling my food and stopped drinking beer and now two years later, all my liver problems are gone. You cannot believe how proud I am. Through this control, my weight has gone down too. I remember getting menstrual problems too when I was eating with no limit. Now I get regular periods. My weight is still a little over the weight level of a 26 year old but I dont care. Its not always about losing weight to look good. For me its to help my organs!! They work really hard for me. They are me. I need to take care of myself cause noone else will. Cake won't help when I am at the hospital with serious liver problems.
That is what love your body is supposed to be! Giving it the best nourishment and care and not abusing it by eating without limit. Keep it up, proud of you
A small thought I had when I heard her account of the "cake incident": Maybe the woman asking for smaller slices was concerned about the fair distribution? How many people were planned to get slices from that cake? If you get yourself 1/8th of a cake meant for 16 people, you are stealing someones slice!
The funny thing is that she mentioned how much of an imposition it was on the person cutting the cake... it takes no more effort to cut a small slice than it does a large slice.
I was totally thinking along the same lines as well . And that the lady didn't ask for a smaller piece of cake. She only told the lady cutting the cake that she was cutting the pieces to big. So what I thought and heard was maybe the host of the party or a boss or supervisor telling the person cutting the cake that they were to big. And that was because they needed to make sure they had enough for everyone. And as I said not someone even asking for a smaller piece of cake. It's really just radical femminisim disquised with 2 layers of frosting a layer of ruffeles potatochips and toped with some jolly ranchers .
@@dx1450 it's actually minutely harder to cut a bigger slice because you either have to turn the cake slightly or have to do slightly more rotation with the knife holding arm.
Her and her following are so entitled, they'd blame the party host if the cake ran out because that fatphobic B didn't get a wedding sized cake for the gluttons to devour.
Captain Obvious here with an observation: the "small slice" lady may have looked at the size of the cake and number of guests at the party and said hey, if everyone wants a slice, I want to be sure everyone can have one! The party was not about satisfying Vergie's whims but about celebrating a birthday and being sure everyone could participate in the food part of the celebration.
As someone who has been the cake slicing lady, I guarantee this is what happened. I don’t cut bigger pieces of cake especially if it has limited servings. If a lot of other people aren’t eating cake then I can cut another slice, but I ain’t giving you half the cake.
"People are dying out here" is my favorite thing from this. I couldn't breathe 50 lbs ago. 60 more lbs to go and I feel better and better the closer I get to healthy.
Any ideology that preaches “less self-control”, “don’t care”, and “do whatever you want” mentality, is going to make a person miserable. No one genuinely lives their life removed from rules and expectations, and really no one should.
Less self control is such a bad thing, i know because i struggle with it. If you don't have self control you can't do the things you WANT to do, the path to freedom is self control although that sounds contradictory you're free to do what you want and not do what you don't want to.
Lol the article about the cake. The lady told her to make the slices smaller because as she said it was a "expensive cake" and there probably wouldn't be enough to go around if they make the slices so big...
Well honestly, how dare that woman consider the size of the cake in relation to the number of people wanting a slice, so as to adequately cut enough pieces so that everyone can partake in the expensive tastiness. Who does she think she is!?
I'm a 5'11 lifelong weightlifter who has seesawed between 75kgs (very lean, six pack) to a hefty 95kgs (strong, but definitely overweight). The truth is, being overweight sucks. Clothes don't fit, you're tired all the time, you get out of breath, your stomach and hips jiggle and itch when you jump around. It's so so uncomfortable. When I'm eating clean and healthy, a normal but not lean 78-80kg, I feel better, I sleep better, I feel comfortable and secure in my clothes. It's 100x better than any pizza or fried chicken could ever taste. These foods are okay once every few weeks or once a month or holidays or special occasions. Balance.
Virgie seems like the type of woman who snidely tells everyone who weighs less than 200 lbs. to eat a cheeseburger. She's no better than diet culture. She's making women who care about themselves and take care of themselves feel ashamed of it. I weigh 145 lbs, 5'8''. I'm a healthy weight and feel great. So why do I feel like this wouldn't be good enough for her? Because I have ONE roll and no double chin, I also can't accept my body? UGH.
Ribbin O. Pinion HEY we’re the same weight and height!! thank you so much for commenting this because i was starting to worry i was overweight or something, but seriously thank you💕
@@christinainez4005 I'm no doctor, but women of our height can typically call themselves a healthy weight between 120-165. The taller you are, the more evenly your weight can distribute. I still have some jiggle and handles, but I don't want to be hardbody or anything :) At my heaviest I was 180 lbs. and not happy.
same here, i have immense jiggle in my legs, but i'm not too worried about that because they're plenty strong. i had gotten up to almost 180 four years ago and i hadn't realized just how terrible i looked and how out of breath i was from minimal physical activity. now i'm back down to 145-150 and it's going great, i'm not super toned (yet) but i'm content!
Your weight is lowkey an inspiration cuz I didn’t know if getting to 145lbs was healthy but hearing what you said made me feel more motivated to be healthy 🤗
Virgie: "Don't tell other women what they can and can't eat!" Also Virgie: "Your slice of cake is not big enough! And how DARE you want a salad! Shame! Shame!"
She just wants to be unhealthy & accepted. Just like any addict, but life doesn’t work like that. You can’t be fat & healthy. You can’t get the best of both worlds.
I’m almost 36, it took me almost 34 years to learn self control. I choose what I eat because I eat to live, not live to eat❤️(even with gastric bypass, it was/is a long journey 12 years down, forever to go)
I'm underweight and I could really use to gain a couple pounds so I'm trying to eat healthy foods with more calories than I would normally eat. However, I'm at this weight because I eat as much I want to, I just don't get hungry very much. I'm curious what these fat activists would say to me. I eat what I want, when I want, and as much as I want but that is exactly why I'm underweight. If they have the right to remain fat, does that mean I also have the right to remain skinny?
I had the same problem. Then I turned 35. Metabolism slowed. I gained weight. Women are much nicer to me and no one accuses me of having an eating disorder. Yay. I guess.
according to Virgie, if you eat veggies you're sexist and responsible for the patriarchy. anyone who eats healthy foods regularly must hate themselves according to her logic.
Kendall Jenner's Leftover pasta Right and the fat acceptance alway makes skinny jokes but we can’t do the same without it be fatphobic. Talk about double standards
She said in a video that she went out with a guy that looked like an actor, I think but not sure the werewolf in Twilight the movie! Just to show everyone that fat girls can date handsome guys! So she claims!!!!
"I'm not into big women" Rude! "I'm not into short guys" Valid point! 🙄 Everybody can have preferences and do what they want to be happy in life but to claim being fat and eating too much food is healthy is just delusional.
They are the "Don't fetishize my fat body. I'm not here to be your kink!" but also "If you don't want to bang a fat chick, you're an asshole!" kind of women. Waddling Contradictions.
“Oh no, she suggested to cut smaller pieces!” You know you CAN ask for another slice right? Also, there can be so many reasons why the woman suggested that, like, What if the cake was kind of small and they have a lot of guests? If you don’t cut small pieces, there wouldn’t be enough slices for everyone
Yeah, I feel like the fact that her first thought went to it being a personal attack against her/fat people, instead of someone just making sure that everybody gets to have cake really shows off her self-centeredness/insecurity.
Because she can't get her head around the fact that some of us really don't like cake. I've had someone like her tell me "Bullshit, it's not possible to not like cake." I hate it. I hate how sweet it is, I hate how sticky it is and how thirsty I get when I eat it, and I hate the lowkey headache and sluggish feeling I inevitably get after it. It's just gross even thinking about eating it. There is lots of junk food out there that I absolutely adore. But i don't like cake. I don't like ice cream either. (I know, I have no soul... lol)
@@BeckBeckGo oh my God yes I hate these extrem sweat sweats. That's also why I will order zero when I want coke just because it's not as disgustingly sweat. But cheascake is good when it's curdy and not just sweat
@@BeckBeckGo WHAT? You don't like cake? 😭 joking, but the way you describe it sounds like you might want to try different types of cakes. Some of them are really not so sugary or buttery. One of the recipes I have is basically bananas & eggs, you might like this ☺ Also, you have an issue with sugar rush. Of course you don't have to force yourself, I just find it sad not to discover new tastes because we fear bad experiences. 😀
Also I have an extreme allergies 😩 she’s literally telling me I suck because I can’t eat a lot of food. I don’t get more than 1,500 cals usually BECAUSE of this. This lady DOES NOT have a say in my happy life. 😂 since I cut out all the toxic foods, I feel so much better and I’m maintaining my weight.
I like how instead of using biases, Kiana uses facts and reasons as to why they are in the wrong. Instead of just saying something like "your fat because you eat fast food.", she instead explains that they are fat from fast food because of the low nutrition, the addictive nature, they low satisfaction and the amount of calories in these foods. 9/10 TH-camr.
I am afraid of feeling sick. Plain and simple. I had a few health scares as I was obese and addicted to certain foods. I would ignore these health issues because I didn’t care. Until I began to purse a dream of mine that required me to deal with these issues as my body felt constantly sick. I’m a theatre performer and dance is required a lot so I wanted to take dance classes. Well it was hard when I had tiredness etc and gut issues bad asthma etc. So I changed my diet. I don’t do fad diets. This one is stainable for me. Not for everyone as it requires a huge amount of work. As in I cut out highly processed foods, quick meals etc with added preservatives. I became a very good cook. I don’t have refined carbs sugars etc but I do have carb and natural sugars. I make my own whole grain breads without added preservatives, I make almost everything from scratch with a few things I get from a heath food store that has natural ingredients like garlic or something as a flavor enhancer. I dropped over the last year and a half down a lot and am very small and lean. I have a petite body frame and small bones so it was hard on my balance to even be slightly overweight because it all sat in my mid second. So dance was near impossible. I want to dance. So if I’m at a party yes I ask for a “tiny slice “ of cake because my body isn’t used to refined carbs etc so my sugar spikes fast (not diabetic but was pre at one point) and I’ll get hit issues and feel to tired to go to dance class. If im at a dinner because I have food sensitivities I tend to eat a very small amount. It seems to people I have an eating disorder but I do not because I make the effort to eat a full blown high fiber, high protein, vitamin enriched meal before I even go to said party. But it don’t say this in fear of offending people. Unless I have a list of everything that is in the food I risk migraines, sugar spikes gut pain and fatigue. If I eat something high in fiber before hand and only eat a little the fiber combats the effects. Yet I am always afraid of offending people’s cooking. I can also taste the “boxed “ cakes and I’ll not eat those at all due to how sick they make me.
More like "I want more cake and if you eat less cake than me, my paranoia makes me feel that it draws attention to me and my cake and I'm sure everybody is judging me even though nobody is paying attention to me at all, so I'm going to throw a tantrum!"
I have been losing weight for almost a month now and am doing really good; I need to because I'm only 24 and already have stage 1 hypertension. The other day the place I volunteer at moved locations and had a re-opening get together with a homemade lemon cake. I was nervous because just one slice is at least 400 calories and it seemed a bit of a waste of calories when 400 calories can be made up with some peanuts, some fruit etc and would probably fill me up more and be healthier. I told them I was on a diet and was mentally preparing for the 'oh don't be a killjoy' and sarcastic 'good luck with that' comments (I live in the UK and I'd say we're a bit too fat positive in day to day life, from experience), but they were very respectful. And I did have a slice anyway (and it was within my calories), and they were accepting of that as well, and told me it's good that I'm kind of in the moment with unexpected temptations already while not being obsessed with every single calorie. I'm forever grateful I've surrounded myself with people who aren't utterly unhinged.
Reasons to ask for smaller slice of cake (nothing to do with fat shaming): Not very hungry but still want to try yummy cake. Want to leave room for more stuff later. Enjoy food better in smaller portions.
more reasons: it’s 3 am and you’re a bit hungry (getting, not asking) you’re home alone and someone just bought/baked a good-looking cake (see above) you’ve finished doing your homework and you’re hungry (again, see above) there’s a lot of people at a party and only one cake you’re on a diet (but you break it slightly by asking for cake)
+2 You don't know will you like it or not. Sometimes cakes look like very yummy, but turn out too sweet, or too fakeish, or you just don't like something in it. You don't really want cake at all, but you don't want too make sad the person, wich made it.
@@annakirei6004 +3 your grandma made it you’re playing some video games, but you wanna multitask. but eating cake while playing games is hard so you get a smaller slice of cake so you can finish it faster it’s your first time making a cake and you wanna try it
@@jvstvorothii Yep, and I pretty sure we can figure out hundreds of reasons "why?". Vergie Tovar has poor imagination toward asking smaller cake slice.
why does she say “eat what you want, as much as you want...” but when people choose to eat healthier or aren’t as hungry so they eat less, she criticizes them?
The ganache cake incident was another person telling vergie's friend to cut smaller pieces. It was about being told not to cut such big pieces that pissed her off. Didn't say that person personally wanted a smaller piece. My interpretation was the person wanted smaller pieces cut so there was enough for everyone.
As someone who has dealt with PTSD from growing up in a traumatic environment I find it very insulting that someone would say "being called fat gave me PTSD" the absolute audacity.
2:05 - "Dieting is not a sign of success, it is a sign of woundedness." You guys, help me. I went on a diet 6 years ago and I have been suffering since, I am so wounded! - 7-8 hours of restful sleep / night - more energy during the day - run after the bus - climb stairs: - and reach the top - without dying And the best part - making homecooked meals the foundation of my diet has increased my sensitivity towards junk food; to a certain degree, your taste buds can tell when something is low quality vs. high.
I have a solution - start to stop dieting and get fat instead, I did so and I have been healthy since I had reached 456 pounds! This is what happened to me: - Couldn't get out of bed in the morning - Had barely any energy - Always out of breath - Got type 2 diabetes - And most of all, - Couldn't climb one step on the stairs without getting out of breath, - and felt like dying Hope this helped, stay fat y'all!
If you could become thin by just pushing a button, would you push that button? I asked my super morbidly obese friend that question, who frequently defended his right to be fat. He acknowledged that he would push the button. He died when he was 44 because he developed a a gigantic infection on his rear end. It was associated with bad hygiene and lethargy from difficulty moving (basically, a bed sore).
When she smack talks vegetables, it makes me really sad. I love chocolate and cake, but I love vegetables too. Eating plants in high quantities makes me feel good, and while I'm not obese, I'm not particularly thin either. I hate this demonization of veg :(
I KNOOW I love veg and fruits(my favorite foods are raw tomatoes and drowning vegetables in sauce) and when I tell people that they think I’m insane lmao
1st time I saw a clip of Virgie she was in her 30's. I was shocked because I thought she was in her 50's. She's an example of how an unhealthy lifestyle ages you fast
Naaah dont be daft, she is in her fifties clearly looks like she is. Just the style choices alone and she just looks aged. Right? She isnt actually in her 30's is she?😳
Well ... you probably know the saying: Misery loves company. People who suffer, sometimes want to drag down other people too. If you're suffering, you somehow feel better when people around you also suffer. It's a weird psychological thing.
@@Gaia_Seraphina I've been there, I was that someone who tried to drag people down. I was deeply depressed, alcoholic and a teen, I went to therapy. I like to believe I don't do it anymore, mostly because I don't interact with people much. It's not that we like seeing people miserable, it's more that we hate seeing people happy. It reminds us how unhappy we are, and it's always easier to drag people down than building ourselves up.
If she was anorexic and promoting starvation, people would be OUTRAGED and telling her to SEEK MEDICAL INTERVENTION. Her anorexia would never be "accepted" or viewed as "body positivity".
Oh my goodness yes! I am in bed right now, sick, and it's almost midnight, but I want to get up and start doing a mini workout right now, she has me so scared of my size and that I will eventually look like her if I don't lose the weight. Maybe it's my old ED coming up but people like her scare me sometimes.
Not to mention overeating to the point of morbid obesity makes it harder to be mobile thus making you more likely to have to depend on others to get things done. Doesn't scream independence to me. I want to run as fast as a man and be seen as capable, I don't want to have to rely on my man to take care of my responsibilities because I am too inactive to do so.
Virgie: Eat as much you want. Person: This is how much I want to eat. Virgie: No you're wrong. Your portion needs to match mine. Also Virgie: Love your body, eat without shame, and live a life of respect and dignity regardless of size and health status. Person who chooses to not eat as much sweet/salty/fried snacks, because they like how they look now and the taste of vegetables more, and not how a lot of sweet/salty/fried snacks makes them feel, and don't really like the flavour of some of them even: So we're cool? Virgie:Omg no, why are you attacking and pushing me down like this as if you're surperiour or have some illution of grandure to prove? Get away from me! You're ruining everything!
exactly! I honestly dont like cake AT ALL, is not my dessert of choice, I hate that wet bread between the layers... So if I just said no to the cake she would take it as a personal offense?? imagine being so insecure.
@@angelinparadise7282 Yeah. She talks about enjoying food and being happy with yourself, but if she sees someone happily enjoying a smaller amount than her, suddenly her whole day is ruined? What if the person has diabetes, or a mild case of either lactose intolerance or allergies? Does she really think they should inconvinience themselves just because she needs to see more plates with more food in order for her to be happy during the hours of the event?
@@1Katakana And I think no matter the reason, it's a choice we make and nobody can police our food choice. I really believe Virgie herself feel inferior and would like to be slim, ect... And convinced herself of everything she is trying to convince other in her messages. And everything that makes her feel at least a bit insecure / uncomfortable / ect... She will label it as fatphobic and patriarcal, when ultimatly, she just feel bad to be the one that eat the most.
@@kokoro_flow She is indeed. She talkes about eating what you want, but it's clear that that only applies if what you want is all the sweet/sugary stuff that she can’t go without. She says that "Health is loving my body, eating without shame, and let every person live with dignity and respect regardless of health and size status", but it's clear that she thinks that people who eats smaller portions without shame and loves their bodies when their bodies doesn’t have the same bmi as her doesn’t deserve that and should be shamed by her. But by her own logic of eating as much as you want, she should be glad that some people chooses to have less, because that would mean more leftovers for her to stuff her face with during round 2.
@@kokoro_flow Absolutely. Firstly it's their bodies their choice, so she can mind her own buissness, and secondly, not wanting an illness or a difficult life due to medical conditions isn't fatphobic, it's I-don't-want-diabetes phobic and I-don't-want-to-make-life-more-challenging-for-me phobic, which are very reasonable things to not want/aim for, and again, she doesn't get a say/vote in this matter regarding someone elses health and their view of a good/happily satisfied life/body for them.
The Cake story Virginie talks about is actually just about a woman saying "You're cutting the slices too thick." I've done this, and it's not because I was trying to eat less myself or police anyone else. Sometimes there's a lot of people and not a lot of cake. I remember at church, there was this one kid who loved to cut the cake, and it was always huge pieces at the start, and tiny slivers at the end, because he had no idea how to cut a regular sheet cake into enough pieces for sixty or eighty people. So you correct the person, and say "Please cut smaller pieces," just to be fair. But Virginie wanted that big, unfair slice, I guess.
Yeah, best to just make lines before you cut to make sure! Just keep cutting in halves until there’s enough equal pieces for all! You’re welcome, from Hints from Helouise!
I’m horrible at cutting cake. I always make some huge slices and some tiny ones. I just can’t seem to make it even no matter what. If she’s triggered by that, she needs therapyZ
yeah, imagine being at someone's party and getting mad because you can't get a big slice of cake that is most likely supposed to be enough for all people.
Yes this! Imagine complaining that you can’t overeat for once and making an entire video about it, meanwhile families are starving in your own country and around that world. Talk about being a whiner. This is what I think a lot of older people think millennials are like, but most of us aren’t. The loudest ones get the most attention though.
@@AstroHierarchy its not even about her not getting a big slice... This crazy lady thinks someone else asking for a snaller slice themselfs is a bad thing somehow
Recently, after discovering I have a wheat intolerance, I started to refuse cake. I was shocked at the people around me who judged and felt the need to comment "One little piece won't hurt; You can be good tomorrow; come on, have some cake." I have a medical condition, that they are aware of, and still they want me to eat cake. No doubt to make themselves feel better about eating cake. Now, if I know there is going to be cake eating for someone's birthday at work (childcare, so it's always someone's birthday) I take my own cake (wheat free). I am still amazed that they actually managed to make me feel guilty for NOT eating cake.
Yup I dont like cake ..unless its homemade...I hate frosting so I say no thankyou...I like fruit its yummy to me but if I try to order the fruit salad everyone is like oh no treat yourself like as if im den myself? I like what im ordering mind ya bussiness people! Its not all a morality thing. Im totally indulging myself in pleasure when I am eating what I like to eat. People with diabetes do this to my mom too who has diabetes and kidney problems. Shes actually reversed her diabetes by staying off sugar. Now she can have a bit if she wants. But those people would have had her damage herself!
It's happening to me, for the same exact reason. People usually give me weird looks when I decide to eat chicken and french fries instead of a burger or pizza, but hey, if I eat that, I'll be dying with pain the next day
I have a milk protein intolerance, so pretty much the same issue here. Thankfully most people in my life understand that I just don’t want to feel sick for a bite of cake, and they leave me alone. The only thing I hate is how some people will feel guilty for not getting/making a cake that everyone can eat. It’s not a malicious thing at all, quite the opposite, they feel bad for leaving me out, but they really shouldn’t. It’s genuinely not that important for me and I don’t like it how they feel like they did something bad or ignored a guest, it’s nothing like that at all. I wish we all could just let go of the importance we placed on cake. I don’t mind not eating it, I don’t like it very much anyway, I don’t feel left out or ignored, there is no harm done but they still feel bad. I wish people would just shrug off me not wanting / being able to eat cake instead of making it into an issue of any kind. :/ Like, when dis it become such an important thing and why..?
@@yorguinarodriguez213 Given that I absolutely despise sandwiches or most things with too many non-homogenous ingredients, I never ate burgers (or almost any sandwich) to begin with. Those were always my preferred orders at fast food places, and I don't recall getting weird looks for it. Then again, I can be a little oblivious sometimes, and I wouldn't care much anyway, so I wouldn't have been watching for them.
funny part is a controlled heroine addiction is far less dangerous, It trows some hormones out off wack a bit but it doesn't really kill you unless you keep pushing for more or get killed by fentynel
@Project Eternity back at you :P did you know in France, people who are drug dependant get regulated doses from the government and just go about their day like any other person. Most drugs aren't half as bad as people think.
It really baffles me that “there’s no such thing as overeating” is a thing she said. Binge eating is a very real eating disorder. It can seriously impact your health. Some people, like myself, will eat when their bored and not hungry. I control my intake because I know that sometimes I’m not hungry, I’m stressed or bored. I can’t fathom how someone doesn’t consider that when talking about food.
Yes exactly! Virgie and other fat activists won't even address points like this - despite claiming to be scholarly intellectuals ~ they put their message/ideology above the truth and it's not right at all
Comfort eating as well. I know this, because I WAS a comfort eater. And yes it was a tough habbit to beat. I found solace in food because other aspects of my life made me feel miserable. But comfort eating and becoming fat certainly didn't help those other problems, it was just yet ANOTHER problem piled on the others making the others worse as well.
binge eater/bulimic: could you please give me the whole cake? and bake another 2 just for me? virgie: yas queen, eat how much you'd like! there are no long term consequences to your relationship with food!!!
I've struggles with weight for years vant keep it on me for nothing many years ago in 2004 a friend git murders and its stressed me out that much I went form 11st 12oz to just under 7 stone it took me till 2011 to get back to ten stone and that's where I'm at still to this day go up to 10st 7lb and back down like a yoyo again I'm so contous about it and feel like I look anorexic even though I'm not the docs tell me I'm at a good weight but always getting comments and I hate it I would never dream of telling a bigger person fuck me you put on timber on so why do they feel the need to tell me I've lost weight can't stand it.. I would love to out on weight but they lady in question is putting some dangerous material yes be happy with your size but be contous of the aftermath don't throw it out there that you are fat shaming just because you want a smaller peice of cake then them that's fucked
They’re hypocrites! I’ve seen a group of them insult a “small fat” because she mentioned wanting to lose weight. Small fat= someone who is overweight but can still fit in regular chairs and even buy clothes from some places.
This is a bit true. My problem was that I couldn't walk past chocolate until about 3 years ago.....then I had a test for Hba1c...........now I keep walking 80% of the time, buuuuuut.....sometimes it's hard😂
I'm the same. Portion control is so important or I will eat too much and then the urge to throw it up is overwhelming. I'd rather just help myself by not letting myself get to that.
they just automatically assume that portion control is only used for weight loss, when it in fact can also be used for weight gain. there’s so little focus on the opposite side of the spectrum now a days, i’m actually struggling to find healthy calorie dense foods because most meal prepping is done with the intent of loss. :/
to you guys/girls/theys,i hope your journey of being healthy goes well. virgie definitely spreads false and offensive information,either for fame,to be an asshole or another reason i can't quite say for certain.
Same! I usually don't bother with it unless it's red velvet or German chocolate, but even then I can only handle a little bit. It just doesn't do it for me. Gooey brownies though? Fresh baked chocolate chip cookies? Give me the whole pan 😂
@@asuka2467 yeah, if I'm at home I will have as big a slice as I want at the time. If I'm at a party, I have a small slice because party cakes are not infinite and if everyone wants a bigger piece then someone will get left out. At adult parties, often the person who gets left out is the host/celebrant as it's only polite to serve everyone else first.
Agree 100%. She doesn't have the willpower, so she just wants everyone to be like her. If she could take a magic pill tomorrow, and lose all the extra weight, you know she would.
Exactly. Instead of truly trying to dismantle the patriarchy and calling out the larger societal and systemic issues she just directs her petty rage at other women for having autonomy and self control over their bodies.
Virgie: no one judges their own slice of cake if they're a cake judger. Hi, I'm a cake judger. I judge every cake I see for various reasons. The sweetness, the flavor combo, the sponge, the frosting. If there's buttercream, I'm gonna say it's disgusting because I absolutely hate it. Yes, I do judge my own slice of cake. I judge every slice of cake I ever had my eye on. And also I pitch cake types against each other. In Virgies eyes I'm a horrible person.....
I wonder how she'd think of me if I'm hosting anything where cake is involved, I ain't hanging round while a gaggle of idiots I barely know demand individually sized slices of cake, the cake gets sliced and divided up equally, if you feel your slice is too big, by all means don't eat all of it, if you feel your slice is too small, too bad if there is any left get a second I really don't care 😂
@@thatonechick6744 but diarrhea is so good, it means you have even more space inside you to stuff even more cake into your body, showing it love by filling it to the brim with love food. ... Oh lord, did i really write that ? That's it, no more sarcasm for me in 2020. I'm stuffed.
Is it so hard to believe that some people just aren't that into cake? Especially super sugary bakery cakes? I can't eat more than a few bites before I start feeling sick to my stomach. I'm not secretly dying to eat more cake.
I hate how people decided to turn "fat positivity" from being like "I'm not a monster for being overweight and I love myself despite what others say =)” into "healthy = pure evil"
Those same people are vulters. The health at every size was actually health for every size which I can get behind. The whole body positive movement is also stolen from people who don't have a choice to change the way they look; burn victims, amputees, etc. I'm all for we all deserve to love ourselves but these movements are not helping anyone now.
Unfortunately, a lot of people go to extremes. I had a close friend of several years that was a very funny and sweet but terribly insecure in her skin when we met in high school. As the years passed and her food addiction worsened she became much heavier. I would always try to lift her up about herself and her looks, but it wasn't easy when she became increasingly bitter about her weight and her relationship failings. She also wasn't an honest person. She would literally catfish guys online and then react terribly when they wouldn't go on a second date. As if it was all their fault for being lied to. She would praise lies paraded as facts by Tess and the like while simultaneously calling herself a disgusting whale no one will love. She refused every attempt to go on walks together to lose weight as a team but found a way to turn every conversation into her own misery and really developed a love hate relationship with men. Wanting them to want her, and making comments like how all men are weak and can't handle real women - while sitting right in front of my husband who's a wonderful person. I am all for loving the skin you're in. I'm 5'5", just barely under 200 pounds but have been heavier. I won't give up ice cream, but I also make sure to enjoy a varied diet that included fruits and vegetables. I don't go to the gym but I have a physically active job and go on walks. I try to maintain balance and to take care of myself and while my weight loss has been gradual I don't regain what I lose like so many of these "fat" TH-camrs claim. But when it comes to the very obese, I've yet to see a personal example that isn't dominated by refusal to accept blame and self loathing.
The guy that owns heart attack grill in Las Vegas said it best, he said he does what he does is because the public wants it and money speaks volumes. He was a heart surgeon in the past and now he helps people get closer to a heart attack cause he got tired.
I had a different read on the cake story. It seems the woman said the slices should be smaller (i.e., the entire cake should be cut into smaller slices) and Virgie freaks out because smaller slices mean she will not get as much cake as she craves. That is, this woman was getting between Virgie and her gluttony.
That’s what I was thinking too! Maybe the woman was asking for the cake to be cut into smaller slices so there was enough for everyone, not because she was judging others for the size of their slice of cake. It’s such a strange mindset to have to immediately go to being judged.
What lol!! That apart I think there should be more videos such as this on fat enabling pro-obesity influencers like Tess Holiday and Shonalee Christy Harrison Linda Bacon to create awareness on the lies they spread and their promotion of obesity. Tess holiday claims she promotes self-love and shows herself ‘working out’ aka walking but she is really advocates for obesity on her social media platforms.
you dont, these people are a lost cause, the rest of us should just use them as workout motivation and leave it at that: "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." "Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself."
I’m sorry, are you telling me this woman wrote a whole article just because she overheard somebody ask for a smaller slice of cake? How egocentric is she?
@@360.Tapestry you are starting to sound essinophobic. Maybe i dont want a big piece of cake and its not because im worried about my image. Its honestly not that complicated
Similarly I wanna just sit her down and say “girl i wear a size seven shoe and weigh 300 lbs. i’m not dieting because im a victim of the patriarchy, my feet just fucking hurt. Its not that deep.”
That person is a criminal. I'm glad I found your channel. I've been struggling with my weight since forever. Since being fit, I'm now all about keeping it that way. I feel so much better without headache, mood swings, heartburns, not being able to walk and being in pain all the time. Your channel helps a lot by reminding me of a dark place I do not wish to revisit. Thank you for correcting such people.
Yeah. I really like to be able to fit in regular chairs. To get up off the floor by myself. To fit in a regular bathtub. To chase my kids and (occasionally) catch them. For that, I'm willing to turn down cake sometimes.
I completely understand about wanting to fit into regular size chairs. We have several chairs at my home that have the sides up so you have to be a particular size to sit in them comfortably, and for the longest time I wasn't able to sit in them comfortably. My thighs would press up against the sides, and it would be massively uncomfortable. I felt so ashamed that I had let myself get that big. I had gained a lot of weight because my mom passed away in 2019, and I have always struggled with my weight. I've been up before and I've been down. My highest weight has been 267, and my lowest weight has been 199. And I have a huge list of family history and personal weight related issues. But last month, I decided I had had enough, and I'm currently working my way to 170 lb. I'm very proud to say that I've lost a good bit of weight (14 pounds) and can now fit in regular size chairs. I legitimately cried. Really sorry for the long reply, but I felt like sharing.
or i find frosting too sweet and it kind of physically hurts to eat it after a few bites? so, I just want a little, because I like it, but not a whole plate, because i don't want to be wasteful?
Or me, who just doesn't like sweets that much since childhood (thus my sweet tolerance is very low). Apparently having a food preference is basically being an ally to patriarchy.
@@karendaniel450 I came to the point that I just prefer plain cakes now (fresh out of the oven) without anything added because frosting is just too nauseating. It really taste bad, I understand the need to make the cake looks good but the taste is just... no.
As an underweight person with Crohn’s disease, cakes and chocolate causes me severe nausea and vomiting , I love sweets more than anything and I feel so proud when I say no to cake to preserve my health , I do receive a lot of comments from people saying “ oh you’re so thin you don’t need to diet “ but I do need to live pain free
As I recover from my binge eating disorder, I feel like while "fat positive" or HAES activists are starting in the right direction by recognizing their relationship with food should be healed, they only ever seem to get halfway. Healing your relationship with food is so much more than removing the stigma away from eating "bad" foods, but their insecurity and difficult pasts with food keep them from truly listening when they're criticized. Thank you for your thoughtful video
@@riskybitness It's just on average but obviously you can be fit without being plant-based. But anyway I think she would highly profit from eating a little bit more fruit and veggies..
I have been forced through politeness to eat cake I didn't want BECAUSE I am vegan. People go out of their way to make another cake or make it vegan for everyone etc... so sweet and kind and unnecessary as I don't like cake... but you have to pretend when someone has been that lovely.
In French, a diet to lose weight is called “régime”, and a diet as a general way of eating is called “diète”. I like this linguistic distinction. It’s a mentality healthier way of talking about the way we eat and our goals.
Sometimes people don’t eat vegetables because they wanna be “thinner “ sometimes people just like them ! I’m Asian and in my culture our foods are predominantly vegetable based , I mainly eat miso soup , curry , sushi and pad Thai . All really good for you so don’t demonize veggies pls
Curry has to be a favourite for me, I've even tried sushi; I love sushi as well. I've even made myself rice and raw eggs since that's a Japanese breakfast dish.
I'm Asian myself and even tho I am not fond of vegetables I pretty much can't avoid it even in dishes with meat and chicken 🤣 Eat your vegetables, kids!
This woman is SO INFURIATING! She makes her living (probably much much more than I make) by spewing enabling language and false information. Her followers just want their unwillingness to say no to themselves to be validated. Disgusting
Don’t worry, with her lifestyle she isn’t to able to spend her money wisely, only on shit fast food and torrid 😂🤫
Daria Luna -cough- ALR
just wait till diabetes happen or whatever else happens, wonder who she'll blame then, her bad life choices or the food she eats
Uncanny Cancer watch, she’s gonna blame genetics because of course notHinG cAn bE hEr fAuLt
@@livepolice7142 lol probably already does
Her definition of health had the phrase 'regardless of health' in it. Incredible
Thats the lifestyle of most people though, "regardless of health"
The only people it doesnt apply to are health nuts
"I Define a reliable car as one that I can get without any cost to me regardless of its reliability."
Acute observation my good Sir
She's like that one nasty fat old lady that skinny shames everyone for looking better than her.
@Cristo Alba you're describing actions, i'm describing intentions
virgie: eat what you want
me: ok *eats vegetables*
virgie: NO NOT LIKE THAT
But I want to eat a bowl of green beans with garlic as a snack...
@@axolotlsgonewild virgie: a bowl of what?...
Sounds like a progressive movement to me!😂
Virgie: eat as much as you want
Me: ok. I want a small slice of cake
Virgie: NO NOT LIKE THAT
@@appleid7758 😂
"...she dumped someone because they didn't like ruffle chips and sour watermelon candy."
Sounds like someone dodged a bullet there.
She had a partner 😨😱😱😱
I can see it now--
Him: Well, I wanted to talk about and try out different things: new movies, a day at the beach, baseball game, art gallery, walking in the park...
Friend: so, what did you guys try out or talk about?
Him: Restaurant A, Restaurant B, Bakery This, Food Truck A, Food Truck B, Ice Cream Parlor That...
Nah they dodged a whole missile there
Dodge a whole cannon ball
@IsaacMuntz Haha the Boulder that almost crushed Indiana Jones.😂
The bit about vegetables was seriously weird and uncomfortable. No one hates vegetables that much except small children. I've struggled with my weight my entire life, although I'm a healthy weight now, and I have always loved all sorts of vegetables. Eating them isn't a gross health-obsessed chore.
She equates eating vegetables to submitting to patriarchy. That's so freakin' childish. Basically everything that she doesn't likes = patriarchy. People around the world eat vegetables with their every meal Virgie.
I love vegetables really. Almost every evening I make myself this salad out of fresh cucumbers and tomatoes and greens and it is very tasty
For the longest time I thought I hated vegetables. Turns out, I just hated the way my mom cooked vegetables. Broccoli tastes great when it's not mushy.
these "fat activists" only eat heavy calorie foods that provide no health benefits whatsoever. being as someone who loves to cook healthy meals, they really can't accept that healthy meals CAN be really really delicious as well
I love veggies but I hate salads
It’s not about being fat, it’s about being healthy and loving your body enough to take care of yourself!
Sarah Plummer Yessss!!!!!!!
U can be chubby and healthy but not fat and healthy x
well said
even under eating can lead to obesity! A disorder is a disorder, get some help. period
Totally agree.Loving yourself is also about self respect.When u respect your body then u should do something about the high fat percentage you have.
I'm 16 and throughout my life I have gone through both ends of eating disorders. I was anorexic. Then due to the influence of activists, and alot of other factors. The idea of "eat whatever you want" got to me. To the point I began to binge on whatever food I wanted. I'm currently now in a battle, I'm seen as fatphobic and "not body positive". For simply just wanting my weight to be at a nice inbetween. And it shocks me that people will publicly claim that eating whatever the hell you want all the time, will do you any good. It's not fatphobic to want to be healthy
Be strong! ED are hard to defeat, but you can do it. You already have the right mind 💪
Lefties have been using the word "phobic" since the 1970s. Unless someone has a truly unreasonable fear of spiders, closed spaces, heights, etc., (i.e., the REAL meaning of a phobia) it's best to completely ignore the term. So much insanity from the far ends of both sides is killing us.
I hate when people claim someone is orthorexic just 'cause they are trying to improve their diet. It makes me wonder where the healthy line between the two extremes is.
As an overweight woman trying to regain my health, Virgie inspires me to exercise and put down the cookies because she seems so mean, angry and unhappy that I want to actively try to be less like her. Lol. Probably the opposite of what she is going for
As someone who works out like 6 days a week, I feel like if you are, as you put it, trying to regain your health, you aren’t really ‘fat’, as you are doing everything in your power to lose weight. It is therefore unfair to wholly characterize you as fat as long as you keep exercising and practicing moderation. Keep it up! You got this!
@@thetommyboi1796 thank you so much! I am technically obese, but I used to be really athletic, so I am watching what I eat and starting with gentle exercise like walking, swimming and yoga because I am worried that my heavy body would put too much pressure on my joints if I did anything too difficult to start out with. There are a lot of diabetics in my family and I don't want to become one, and it kinda scared me to see obesity being pushed as healthy when I know first hand how it feels to be obese vs. how I felt when I was athletic and I know the long-term effects second hand from watching my diabetic family members. The HAES philosophy is terrifying and discouraging to those of us who are not in denial about our problem and looking to fix it.
But yeah, I also tend to be my harshest critic by a mile.
I support you in your journey God speed soilder!
Just don't fall into extremes. Nikocado Avocado vs Eugenia Clooney. Obesity vs anorexia.
A really good reason to cut small slices of cake at a birthday party is to make sure that there are enough slices for everyone to get one.
fr they literally said it was an expensive cake so i assume it wasn’t very large, pricy cakes are usually on the smaller side
Exactly, you get a small taste not an entire second meal.
Get a bigger cake your cheap phatphobic bigot😆
@@elizabethfigueroa6811a piece of cake is not “an entire second meal.”
Exactly
I am a fat person, but I am healthy, because I try to eat healthy, because I wanna live till I am at least 74, so that I can eat what I want now and then. I am 26 and two years ago I started getting liver problems because I don't have a gall bladder and my liver was getting weak. I did some tests and the results scared me. So I started controlling my food and stopped drinking beer and now two years later, all my liver problems are gone. You cannot believe how proud I am. Through this control, my weight has gone down too. I remember getting menstrual problems too when I was eating with no limit. Now I get regular periods. My weight is still a little over the weight level of a 26 year old but I dont care. Its not always about losing weight to look good. For me its to help my organs!! They work really hard for me. They are me. I need to take care of myself cause noone else will. Cake won't help when I am at the hospital with serious liver problems.
Oh wow! Congratulations! That is a major achievement
Congrats!
For real if someone loves their body they take care of it,just like u did.
+
Congrats 🤩👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
That is what love your body is supposed to be! Giving it the best nourishment and care and not abusing it by eating without limit. Keep it up, proud of you
Virgie is my health advisor. Also Stevie Wonder was my driving instructor.
Ha ha.
Keith Richards is my pain management medication consultant
hahahahaha good one !!!
Hitler is my therapist
Jeff Epstein as my babysitter
Yeah, Joe Biden is my teaching mentor
A small thought I had when I heard her account of the "cake incident": Maybe the woman asking for smaller slices was concerned about the fair distribution? How many people were planned to get slices from that cake? If you get yourself 1/8th of a cake meant for 16 people, you are stealing someones slice!
The funny thing is that she mentioned how much of an imposition it was on the person cutting the cake... it takes no more effort to cut a small slice than it does a large slice.
I was totally thinking along the same lines as well .
And that the lady didn't ask for a smaller piece of cake. She only told the lady cutting the cake that she was cutting the pieces to big.
So what I thought and heard was maybe the host of the party or a boss or supervisor telling the person cutting the cake that they were to big. And that was because they needed to make sure they had enough for everyone.
And as I said not someone even asking for a smaller piece of cake.
It's really just radical femminisim disquised with 2 layers of frosting a layer of ruffeles potatochips and toped with some jolly ranchers .
@@dx1450 At best you can say it's harder to cut even slices consecutively, but as long as they are somewhat even it would be fine.
@@dx1450 it's actually minutely harder to cut a bigger slice because you either have to turn the cake slightly or have to do slightly more rotation with the knife holding arm.
Her and her following are so entitled, they'd blame the party host if the cake ran out because that fatphobic B didn't get a wedding sized cake for the gluttons to devour.
Captain Obvious here with an observation: the "small slice" lady may have looked at the size of the cake and number of guests at the party and said hey, if everyone wants a slice, I want to be sure everyone can have one! The party was not about satisfying Vergie's whims but about celebrating a birthday and being sure everyone could participate in the food part of the celebration.
right? and knowing Vergie, it wouldn't surprise me if she genuinely took half the cake for herself
@@sarah.n.s.c. ikr, and tbh idk why Virgie wouldn't just run off with the cake on the spot 💀
@@sarah.n.s.c. watch ur fat shaming its a little loud today
As someone who has been the cake slicing lady, I guarantee this is what happened. I don’t cut bigger pieces of cake especially if it has limited servings. If a lot of other people aren’t eating cake then I can cut another slice, but I ain’t giving you half the cake.
I was thinking the same exact thing lmao
"People are dying out here" is my favorite thing from this. I couldn't breathe 50 lbs ago. 60 more lbs to go and I feel better and better the closer I get to healthy.
Any ideology that preaches “less self-control”, “don’t care”, and “do whatever you want” mentality, is going to make a person miserable. No one genuinely lives their life removed from rules and expectations, and really no one should.
Well, I think a lot of people do, but they just hate the consequences. That's the part which always comes back to bite you in the ass.
Less self control is such a bad thing, i know because i struggle with it. If you don't have self control you can't do the things you WANT to do, the path to freedom is self control although that sounds contradictory you're free to do what you want and not do what you don't want to.
What blew my mind was when I found out that "doing the right thing" and "doing whatever I wanted" could be the same thing.
Freedom allows you the ability to pick no as an answer. It's not freedom when you can't opt out. Good things will become bad when consumed in excess.
Correct, is just that those rules and expectations are my own. Discipline is freedom.
Lol the article about the cake. The lady told her to make the slices smaller because as she said it was a "expensive cake" and there probably wouldn't be enough to go around if they make the slices so big...
So she's greedy. Talk about selfish.
Well honestly, how dare that woman consider the size of the cake in relation to the number of people wanting a slice, so as to adequately cut enough pieces so that everyone can partake in the expensive tastiness. Who does she think she is!?
exactly what i said to myself when i heard that!!
RubyLovesRocket
The nerve to be considerate! Consideration is fat shaming!
Fight the Patriarchy! Give Virgie the whole cake!
Like crabs, they try to pull others back into the bucket because they themselves cannot escape
The cycle of eating unhealthy shit
crabs do that????? thats sad :(
disaster bi yeah they do but i dont think cause they dont want to escape just that they act like it naturally
Person : Oh, just a small slice for me, please.
Virgie: OH, SO YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME?!?
Yes. Yes, I am.
Just say yes and shut down that conversation.
@@Bantallas for real 😳
"Ya think ya bettah than meh?!!! Ya muff gabbage!!"
- South Park
Mic drop
I'm a 5'11 lifelong weightlifter who has seesawed between 75kgs (very lean, six pack) to a hefty 95kgs (strong, but definitely overweight).
The truth is, being overweight sucks. Clothes don't fit, you're tired all the time, you get out of breath, your stomach and hips jiggle and itch when you jump around. It's so so uncomfortable.
When I'm eating clean and healthy, a normal but not lean 78-80kg, I feel better, I sleep better, I feel comfortable and secure in my clothes. It's 100x better than any pizza or fried chicken could ever taste. These foods are okay once every few weeks or once a month or holidays or special occasions. Balance.
Virgie seems like the type of woman who snidely tells everyone who weighs less than 200 lbs. to eat a cheeseburger. She's no better than diet culture. She's making women who care about themselves and take care of themselves feel ashamed of it. I weigh 145 lbs, 5'8''. I'm a healthy weight and feel great. So why do I feel like this wouldn't be good enough for her? Because I have ONE roll and no double chin, I also can't accept my body? UGH.
Ribbin O. Pinion HEY we’re the same weight and height!! thank you so much for commenting this because i was starting to worry i was overweight or something, but seriously thank you💕
@@christinainez4005 I'm no doctor, but women of our height can typically call themselves a healthy weight between 120-165. The taller you are, the more evenly your weight can distribute. I still have some jiggle and handles, but I don't want to be hardbody or anything :) At my heaviest I was 180 lbs. and not happy.
im 5'8 and my set point is 150 so it feels really good to know that other people look like me :)
same here, i have immense jiggle in my legs, but i'm not too worried about that because they're plenty strong. i had gotten up to almost 180 four years ago and i hadn't realized just how terrible i looked and how out of breath i was from minimal physical activity. now i'm back down to 145-150 and it's going great, i'm not super toned (yet) but i'm content!
Your weight is lowkey an inspiration cuz I didn’t know if getting to 145lbs was healthy but hearing what you said made me feel more motivated to be healthy 🤗
I feel like she has a food addiction disguised as “Fat Acceptance”
Oh yeah. For real, she's an addict.
She's just justifying it by projecting self hate onto others.
Virgie: "Don't tell other women what they can and can't eat!"
Also Virgie: "Your slice of cake is not big enough! And how DARE you want a salad! Shame! Shame!"
She just wants to be unhealthy & accepted. Just like any addict, but life doesn’t work like that. You can’t be fat & healthy. You can’t get the best of both worlds.
It's only correct to tell them if they're skinny, duh!!
I’m almost 36, it took me almost 34 years to learn self control. I choose what I eat because I eat to live, not live to eat❤️(even with gastric bypass, it was/is a long journey 12 years down, forever to go)
I'm underweight and I could really use to gain a couple pounds so I'm trying to eat healthy foods with more calories than I would normally eat. However, I'm at this weight because I eat as much I want to, I just don't get hungry very much. I'm curious what these fat activists would say to me. I eat what I want, when I want, and as much as I want but that is exactly why I'm underweight. If they have the right to remain fat, does that mean I also have the right to remain skinny?
Senecot
I had the same problem. Then I turned 35. Metabolism slowed. I gained weight. Women are much nicer to me and no one accuses me of having an eating disorder. Yay. I guess.
according to Virgie, if you eat veggies you're sexist and responsible for the patriarchy. anyone who eats healthy foods regularly must hate themselves according to her logic.
Lisa Loyd
I wish the „she’s slim, so I can openly critise her for her body and eating habits” thing would die already.
Kendall Jenner's Leftover pasta Right and the fat acceptance alway makes skinny jokes but we can’t do the same without it be fatphobic. Talk about double standards
I’m getting tired of people referring to ‘patriarchy’ for every oppression they perceive.
She’s obviously never heard of IBS, I don’t get to choose what I eat. My stomach does lol.
Exactly 😂😂😂 Or when you get to eat. Sometime stomach isn’t in the mood even though you hungry.
That's so goddamn true . I'm not asking for a smaller slice bc I don't like cake 😂
thats my brother haha
on god lmao
nimbleneedle Amen!
These are the same women who want good-looking, fit guys who exercise a lot.
Yeah
She said in a video that she went out with a guy that looked like an actor, I think but not sure the werewolf in Twilight the movie! Just to show everyone that fat girls can date handsome guys! So she claims!!!!
Yes and when a guy goes like "I'm not into big women" they get all defensive and shit lol
"I'm not into big women" Rude!
"I'm not into short guys" Valid point! 🙄 Everybody can have preferences and do what they want to be happy in life but to claim being fat and eating too much food is healthy is just delusional.
They are the "Don't fetishize my fat body. I'm not here to be your kink!" but also "If you don't want to bang a fat chick, you're an asshole!" kind of women. Waddling Contradictions.
“Oh no, she suggested to cut smaller pieces!” You know you CAN ask for another slice right?
Also, there can be so many reasons why the woman suggested that, like, What if the cake was kind of small and they have a lot of guests? If you don’t cut small pieces, there wouldn’t be enough slices for everyone
Right? Let everyone have some first. Then see what’s up.
Yeah, I feel like the fact that her first thought went to it being a personal attack against her/fat people, instead of someone just making sure that everybody gets to have cake really shows off her self-centeredness/insecurity.
“Eat as much as you want” *gets mad at people for eating less cake*
Because she can't get her head around the fact that some of us really don't like cake. I've had someone like her tell me "Bullshit, it's not possible to not like cake."
I hate it. I hate how sweet it is, I hate how sticky it is and how thirsty I get when I eat it, and I hate the lowkey headache and sluggish feeling I inevitably get after it. It's just gross even thinking about eating it. There is lots of junk food out there that I absolutely adore. But i don't like cake. I don't like ice cream either. (I know, I have no soul... lol)
@@BeckBeckGo oh my God yes I hate these extrem sweat sweats.
That's also why I will order zero when I want coke just because it's not as disgustingly sweat.
But cheascake is good when it's curdy and not just sweat
@@BeckBeckGo yep! I hate very sweet food like cake. I like spicy food
@@BeckBeckGo WHAT? You don't like cake? 😭
joking, but the way you describe it sounds like you might want to try different types of cakes. Some of them are really not so sugary or buttery. One of the recipes I have is basically bananas & eggs, you might like this ☺ Also, you have an issue with sugar rush. Of course you don't have to force yourself, I just find it sad not to discover new tastes because we fear bad experiences. 😀
@@BeckBeckGo I don't like chocolate😂😂😂people get so offended when I say so.
Also I have an extreme allergies 😩 she’s literally telling me I suck because I can’t eat a lot of food. I don’t get more than 1,500 cals usually BECAUSE of this. This lady DOES NOT have a say in my happy life. 😂 since I cut out all the toxic foods, I feel so much better and I’m maintaining my weight.
...my mom has celiac and can’t eat dairy so she always has to say no to cake. Is virgie threatening my mother?
@Sequoiah Dreams tasty cakes are also a thing... most tasty cakes dont contain vegan ingredients
Sequoiah Dreams yeah but if you’re at someone else’s party, they often have a regular cake.
FTR, celiac is pathogenic gluten intolerance, lactose intolerance is allergy to milk. You should get tested, it's genetic!
Pamela Boswell I feel like they would het tested if they thought they had celiac. Like, you would probably notice.
She better not be threatening ya mother
I love the "disproportionate amount of labour" when it comes to moving your hand a inch to make the cake slice smaller. Thats hardly a "labour".
She is the Freelee of fat acceptance.
...I can see that
I like how instead of using biases, Kiana uses facts and reasons as to why they are in the wrong. Instead of just saying something like "your fat because you eat fast food.", she instead explains that they are fat from fast food because of the low nutrition, the addictive nature, they low satisfaction and the amount of calories in these foods. 9/10 TH-camr.
I am afraid of feeling sick. Plain and simple. I had a few health scares as I was obese and addicted to certain foods. I would ignore these health issues because I didn’t care. Until I began to purse a dream of mine that required me to deal with these issues as my body felt constantly sick. I’m a theatre performer and dance is required a lot so I wanted to take dance classes. Well it was hard when I had tiredness etc and gut issues bad asthma etc. So I changed my diet. I don’t do fad diets. This one is stainable for me. Not for everyone as it requires a huge amount of work. As in I cut out highly processed foods, quick meals etc with added preservatives. I became a very good cook. I don’t have refined carbs sugars etc but I do have carb and natural sugars. I make my own whole grain breads without added preservatives, I make almost everything from scratch with a few things I get from a heath food store that has natural ingredients like garlic or something as a flavor enhancer. I dropped over the last year and a half down a lot and am very small and lean. I have a petite body frame and small bones so it was hard on my balance to even be slightly overweight because it all sat in my mid second. So dance was near impossible. I want to dance. So if I’m at a party yes I ask for a “tiny slice “ of cake because my body isn’t used to refined carbs etc so my sugar spikes fast (not diabetic but was pre at one point) and I’ll get hit issues and feel to tired to go to dance class. If im at a dinner because I have food sensitivities I tend to eat a very small amount. It seems to people I have an eating disorder but I do not because I make the effort to eat a full blown high fiber, high protein, vitamin enriched meal before I even go to said party. But it don’t say this in fear of offending people. Unless I have a list of everything that is in the food I risk migraines, sugar spikes gut pain and fatigue. If I eat something high in fiber before hand and only eat a little the fiber combats the effects. Yet I am always afraid of offending people’s cooking. I can also taste the “boxed “ cakes and I’ll not eat those at all due to how sick they make me.
She sounds like a child: "I want more cake, if you don't give me more cake i'll throw a tantrum!"
You're grounded 😕
bruh fr
More like "I want more cake and if you eat less cake than me, my paranoia makes me feel that it draws attention to me and my cake and I'm sure everybody is judging me even though nobody is paying attention to me at all, so I'm going to throw a tantrum!"
Plus: "Vegetables are gross." It's like hearing my 5 year old niece.
I have been losing weight for almost a month now and am doing really good; I need to because I'm only 24 and already have stage 1 hypertension. The other day the place I volunteer at moved locations and had a re-opening get together with a homemade lemon cake. I was nervous because just one slice is at least 400 calories and it seemed a bit of a waste of calories when 400 calories can be made up with some peanuts, some fruit etc and would probably fill me up more and be healthier.
I told them I was on a diet and was mentally preparing for the 'oh don't be a killjoy' and sarcastic 'good luck with that' comments (I live in the UK and I'd say we're a bit too fat positive in day to day life, from experience), but they were very respectful. And I did have a slice anyway (and it was within my calories), and they were accepting of that as well, and told me it's good that I'm kind of in the moment with unexpected temptations already while not being obsessed with every single calorie. I'm forever grateful I've surrounded myself with people who aren't utterly unhinged.
That intro song and dance haunts my dreams.
It haunts us all
Then you definitely want to skip 9:23 to 9:33.
* nightmares
Ik it’s kinda gross ngl
@@clintzuleger8918 why did you do this to me 😭
Reasons to ask for smaller slice of cake (nothing to do with fat shaming):
Not very hungry but still want to try yummy cake.
Want to leave room for more stuff later.
Enjoy food better in smaller portions.
more reasons:
it’s 3 am and you’re a bit hungry (getting, not asking)
you’re home alone and someone just bought/baked a good-looking cake (see above)
you’ve finished doing your homework and you’re hungry (again, see above)
there’s a lot of people at a party and only one cake
you’re on a diet (but you break it slightly by asking for cake)
+2
You don't know will you like it or not. Sometimes cakes look like very yummy, but turn out too sweet, or too fakeish, or you just don't like something in it.
You don't really want cake at all, but you don't want too make sad the person, wich made it.
@@annakirei6004
+3
your grandma made it
you’re playing some video games, but you wanna multitask. but eating cake while playing games is hard so you get a smaller slice of cake so you can finish it faster
it’s your first time making a cake and you wanna try it
@@jvstvorothii Yep, and I pretty sure we can figure out hundreds of reasons "why?". Vergie Tovar has poor imagination toward asking smaller cake slice.
@@annakirei6004 conclusion: virgie tovar is an idiot. case closed
why does she say “eat what you want, as much as you want...” but when people choose to eat healthier or aren’t as hungry so they eat less, she criticizes them?
...because she's a massively self-absorbed hypocrite
Big dum dum
Having some discipline is actually far more freeing than being controlled by your every desire
A fan of Isaiah Berlin, I see!
The ganache cake incident was another person telling vergie's friend to cut smaller pieces. It was about being told not to cut such big pieces that pissed her off. Didn't say that person personally wanted a smaller piece. My interpretation was the person wanted smaller pieces cut so there was enough for everyone.
“Virgie Tovar” has gotta be the worst name that money can buy
@@katarinamusladin3406 V I R G I N D O N K E Y
@@katarinamusladin3406 might I ask what language this is?!
@@katarinamusladin3406 In my language it means 'good mountain' 😂
@@rose-gl4io Tovar means merchandise, stock ot wares in my language xD
As someone who has dealt with PTSD from growing up in a traumatic environment I find it very insulting that someone would say "being called fat gave me PTSD" the absolute audacity.
2:05 - "Dieting is not a sign of success, it is a sign of woundedness."
You guys, help me. I went on a diet 6 years ago and I have been suffering since, I am so wounded!
- 7-8 hours of restful sleep / night
- more energy during the day
- run after the bus
- climb stairs:
- and reach the top
- without dying
And the best part - making homecooked meals the foundation of my diet has increased my sensitivity towards junk food; to a certain degree, your taste buds can tell when something is low quality vs. high.
I have a solution - start to stop dieting and get fat instead, I did so and I have been healthy since I had reached 456 pounds! This is what happened to me:
- Couldn't get out of bed in the morning
- Had barely any energy
- Always out of breath
- Got type 2 diabetes
- And most of all,
- Couldn't climb one step on the stairs without getting out of breath,
- and felt like dying
Hope this helped, stay fat y'all!
(This was a joke btw)
If you could become thin by just pushing a button, would you push that button?
I asked my super morbidly obese friend that question, who frequently defended his right to be fat. He acknowledged that he would push the button.
He died when he was 44 because he developed a a gigantic infection on his rear end. It was associated with bad hygiene and lethargy from difficulty moving (basically, a bed sore).
I’m just saying that if people are eating cake in the shower at 3am, they may want to see a therapist.
lol that's a depression aesthetic ngl
... but that’s the best place to eat cake since I’m no longer crying, but rather it’s just water running down my cheeks...
Ok, but eating cake alone in a warm bath is self care and no one can tell me otherwise
@@dumbdumb8526 nah, I think it's weird.
@@mayam.235 what? You agree with me? Well duh, of course I’m right.
side note: Don’t take advice from a bowl cut
(sad Beatles noises)
Enda from The Incredibles gave us some good advice😔
What about rock lee and gai
I agree/disagree ..sometimes Trixie Mattel wears a bowl... Check out trixie and katya's show .. it'll (probably) make u laugh
@@LinkEX lmaoo
If patriarchy is just trying to be a bit healthier, than I’ll have a heaping spoonful of patriarchy please.
"eat as much as you want"
ok, i want a small piece of cake, please
They don't have enough IQ to think
ok, i don’t want any cake please
lmaoooo
Triggered
Actually, give me the entire cake. Wait, we're meant to share? Too bad. I don't believe in diet culture! No restrictions, no cake for anyone but me.
When she smack talks vegetables, it makes me really sad. I love chocolate and cake, but I love vegetables too. Eating plants in high quantities makes me feel good, and while I'm not obese, I'm not particularly thin either. I hate this demonization of veg :(
Because other people making healthy choices (even just from time to time) feels like an attack to her.
I KNOOW I love veg and fruits(my favorite foods are raw tomatoes and drowning vegetables in sauce) and when I tell people that they think I’m insane lmao
sometimes when i feel the need to snack when i watch something instead of eating chips or popcorn i get a big bowl of baby carrots, i love vegetables
Hey man, keep eating those veggies. Don't let some delusional girl on the internet ruin them for you
@@karkat4493 dude baby carrots are bomb as hell. Especially with a little ranch
1st time I saw a clip of Virgie she was in her 30's. I was shocked because I thought she was in her 50's. She's an example of how an unhealthy lifestyle ages you fast
Naaah dont be daft, she is in her fifties clearly looks like she is. Just the style choices alone and she just looks aged.
Right?
She isnt actually in her 30's is she?😳
Oh shit... Well at this time, she is 42 actually. Now looks she passed half 50's. If someone said 57 i would believe without a second thought
It really sounds like she wants everyone to stop controlling themselves so she can stop feeling bad about not being able to.
Exactly. There is simply NOTHING more to it.
Well ... you probably know the saying: Misery loves company.
People who suffer, sometimes want to drag down other people too.
If you're suffering, you somehow feel better when people around you also suffer. It's a weird psychological thing.
YES YES YES
Green Kid U UNCOVERED IT.
@@Gaia_Seraphina I've been there, I was that someone who tried to drag people down. I was deeply depressed, alcoholic and a teen, I went to therapy. I like to believe I don't do it anymore, mostly because I don't interact with people much. It's not that we like seeing people miserable, it's more that we hate seeing people happy. It reminds us how unhappy we are, and it's always easier to drag people down than building ourselves up.
If she was anorexic and promoting starvation, people would be OUTRAGED and telling her to SEEK MEDICAL INTERVENTION. Her anorexia would never be "accepted" or viewed as "body positivity".
True but Since she's fat there's nothing wrong
I think both extremes are wrong. Beauty is more then a body and her negativity makes her ugly no matter her size.
Makes me think about Eugenia Cooney...
And it shouldn't be now. As someone who has been on both spectrums i can say niether on an extreme level is good for you
i kinda doubt that. knowing how much they like to deny facts over hurting delicate feelings...
This is no joke the best form of pre-workout that exists…
DUDE! how does this only have two likes 😂 madly underrated comment
true i was watching this at the gym🤣
I was so sore these last few days I couldn't workout anymore. I'm trying to not jump into my car and rush to the gym. 😂
Oh my goodness yes! I am in bed right now, sick, and it's almost midnight, but I want to get up and start doing a mini workout right now, she has me so scared of my size and that I will eventually look like her if I don't lose the weight. Maybe it's my old ED coming up but people like her scare me sometimes.
I actually listen to her videos while doing cardio now 😂
"I am a feminist" *proceeds to get angry about a woman's decision to not eat a piece of cake*
Not to mention overeating to the point of morbid obesity makes it harder to be mobile thus making you more likely to have to depend on others to get things done. Doesn't scream independence to me. I want to run as fast as a man and be seen as capable, I don't want to have to rely on my man to take care of my responsibilities because I am too inactive to do so.
If the genders were revered yall would be calling them an incel
Seems to be the neo-feminism…it’s not about a woman’s choices for herself, it’s about the loudest, angriest women’s choices for OTHER women. 😟
@@nobodythenobody9779 You say that like that changes something, but either way we're mocking them
@@kyrus4989 the good kind of feminism. Instead of bringing men down, bringing women up. Stay fit my friends
Virgie: Eat as much you want.
Person: This is how much I want to eat.
Virgie: No you're wrong. Your portion needs to match mine.
Also Virgie: Love your body, eat without shame, and live a life of respect and dignity regardless of size and health status.
Person who chooses to not eat as much sweet/salty/fried snacks, because they like how they look now and the taste of vegetables more, and not how a lot of sweet/salty/fried snacks makes them feel, and don't really like the flavour of some of them even: So we're cool?
Virgie:Omg no, why are you attacking and pushing me down like this as if you're surperiour or have some illution of grandure to prove? Get away from me! You're ruining everything!
exactly! I honestly dont like cake AT ALL, is not my dessert of choice, I hate that wet bread between the layers... So if I just said no to the cake she would take it as a personal offense?? imagine being so insecure.
@@angelinparadise7282 Yeah. She talks about enjoying food and being happy with yourself, but if she sees someone happily enjoying a smaller amount than her, suddenly her whole day is ruined? What if the person has diabetes, or a mild case of either lactose intolerance or allergies? Does she really think they should inconvinience themselves just because she needs to see more plates with more food in order for her to be happy during the hours of the event?
@@1Katakana And I think no matter the reason, it's a choice we make and nobody can police our food choice. I really believe Virgie herself feel inferior and would like to be slim, ect... And convinced herself of everything she is trying to convince other in her messages. And everything that makes her feel at least a bit insecure / uncomfortable / ect... She will label it as fatphobic and patriarcal, when ultimatly, she just feel bad to be the one that eat the most.
@@kokoro_flow She is indeed. She talkes about eating what you want, but it's clear that that only applies if what you want is all the sweet/sugary stuff that she can’t go without. She says that "Health is loving my body, eating without shame, and let every person live with dignity and respect regardless of health and size status", but it's clear that she thinks that people who eats smaller portions without shame and loves their bodies when their bodies doesn’t have the same bmi as her doesn’t deserve that and should be shamed by her. But by her own logic of eating as much as you want, she should be glad that some people chooses to have less, because that would mean more leftovers for her to stuff her face with during round 2.
@@kokoro_flow Absolutely. Firstly it's their bodies their choice, so she can mind her own buissness, and secondly, not wanting an illness or a difficult life due to medical conditions isn't fatphobic, it's I-don't-want-diabetes phobic and I-don't-want-to-make-life-more-challenging-for-me phobic, which are very reasonable things to not want/aim for, and again, she doesn't get a say/vote in this matter regarding someone elses health and their view of a good/happily satisfied life/body for them.
The Cake story Virginie talks about is actually just about a woman saying "You're cutting the slices too thick." I've done this, and it's not because I was trying to eat less myself or police anyone else. Sometimes there's a lot of people and not a lot of cake. I remember at church, there was this one kid who loved to cut the cake, and it was always huge pieces at the start, and tiny slivers at the end, because he had no idea how to cut a regular sheet cake into enough pieces for sixty or eighty people. So you correct the person, and say "Please cut smaller pieces," just to be fair.
But Virginie wanted that big, unfair slice, I guess.
I was thinking the same thing. I think she was too focused on the cake to even notice the situation
Yeah, best to just make lines before you cut to make sure! Just keep cutting in halves until there’s enough equal pieces for all! You’re welcome, from Hints from Helouise!
I’m horrible at cutting cake. I always make some huge slices and some tiny ones. I just can’t seem to make it even no matter what. If she’s triggered by that, she needs therapyZ
@@megottamove Someone has an engineer/math background, love it!
Tbh, thin and big slices allow people to chose the quantity they want.
War starts if everyone is in the mood to eat a big slice. 😂
Can't be insecure about being fat when everyone else is fat.
Yes! 😁
It’s the perfect recipe. 👌🏻
How is it an insecurity if I'm 100% sure that I'm fat?
@@voldy3565 The percentage doesn't take into account. It depends whether or not you feel bad about being fat.
When everyone's fat, no one will be.
Imagine being so privileged the worse thing that can happen to you is someone asking for a smaller slice of cake.
Exactly. That's first world problems right there.
@@myowncelestial5017 No, a first world problem is forgetting your phone charger at home.
This is a perfect utopia problem.
yeah, imagine being at someone's party and getting mad because you can't get a big slice of cake that is most likely supposed to be enough for all people.
Yes this! Imagine complaining that you can’t overeat for once and making an entire video about it, meanwhile families are starving in your own country and around that world. Talk about being a whiner. This is what I think a lot of older people think millennials are like, but most of us aren’t. The loudest ones get the most attention though.
@@AstroHierarchy its not even about her not getting a big slice... This crazy lady thinks someone else asking for a snaller slice themselfs is a bad thing somehow
Recently, after discovering I have a wheat intolerance, I started to refuse cake. I was shocked at the people around me who judged and felt the need to comment "One little piece won't hurt; You can be good tomorrow; come on, have some cake." I have a medical condition, that they are aware of, and still they want me to eat cake. No doubt to make themselves feel better about eating cake. Now, if I know there is going to be cake eating for someone's birthday at work (childcare, so it's always someone's birthday) I take my own cake (wheat free). I am still amazed that they actually managed to make me feel guilty for NOT eating cake.
A similar thing happened to me when I stopped drinking beer. 😕
Yup I dont like cake ..unless its homemade...I hate frosting so I say no thankyou...I like fruit its yummy to me but if I try to order the fruit salad everyone is like oh no treat yourself like as if im den myself? I like what im ordering mind ya bussiness people! Its not all a morality thing. Im totally indulging myself in pleasure when I am eating what I like to eat. People with diabetes do this to my mom too who has diabetes and kidney problems. Shes actually reversed her diabetes by staying off sugar. Now she can have a bit if she wants. But those people would have had her damage herself!
It's happening to me, for the same exact reason. People usually give me weird looks when I decide to eat chicken and french fries instead of a burger or pizza, but hey, if I eat that, I'll be dying with pain the next day
I have a milk protein intolerance, so pretty much the same issue here. Thankfully most people in my life understand that I just don’t want to feel sick for a bite of cake, and they leave me alone.
The only thing I hate is how some people will feel guilty for not getting/making a cake that everyone can eat. It’s not a malicious thing at all, quite the opposite, they feel bad for leaving me out, but they really shouldn’t. It’s genuinely not that important for me and I don’t like it how they feel like they did something bad or ignored a guest, it’s nothing like that at all.
I wish we all could just let go of the importance we placed on cake. I don’t mind not eating it, I don’t like it very much anyway, I don’t feel left out or ignored, there is no harm done but they still feel bad. I wish people would just shrug off me not wanting / being able to eat cake instead of making it into an issue of any kind. :/
Like, when dis it become such an important thing and why..?
@@yorguinarodriguez213 Given that I absolutely despise sandwiches or most things with too many non-homogenous ingredients, I never ate burgers (or almost any sandwich) to begin with. Those were always my preferred orders at fast food places, and I don't recall getting weird looks for it. Then again, I can be a little oblivious sometimes, and I wouldn't care much anyway, so I wouldn't have been watching for them.
This is like a heroin addict telling you their addiction isn’t deadly.
funny part is a controlled heroine addiction is far less dangerous, It trows some hormones out off wack a bit but it doesn't really kill you unless you keep pushing for more or get killed by fentynel
IKR lmfaooo
It's actually more like telling a heroin addict that they're a sellout if they don't shoot up.
Well said 👏👏👏
@Project Eternity back at you :P did you know in France, people who are drug dependant get regulated doses from the government and just go about their day like any other person. Most drugs aren't half as bad as people think.
It really baffles me that “there’s no such thing as overeating” is a thing she said. Binge eating is a very real eating disorder. It can seriously impact your health. Some people, like myself, will eat when their bored and not hungry. I control my intake because I know that sometimes I’m not hungry, I’m stressed or bored. I can’t fathom how someone doesn’t consider that when talking about food.
Yes exactly! Virgie and other fat activists won't even address points like this - despite claiming to be scholarly intellectuals ~ they put their message/ideology above the truth and it's not right at all
Honestly same it’s appalling rlly
Comfort eating as well.
I know this, because I WAS a comfort eater. And yes it was a tough habbit to beat.
I found solace in food because other aspects of my life made me feel miserable.
But comfort eating and becoming fat certainly didn't help those other problems, it was just yet ANOTHER problem piled on the others making the others worse as well.
@@KianaDocherty I read "idiocy" for "ideology" 🤣
Same
Diabetic: "no cake for me but thank you anyways"
Virgie: "and I took that personally"
I wanted to like ur comment but its at 420 likes and I dont want to be the one to change it. I am coward.
According to her that means you are a tool of patriarchy 😂
Your diabetes is fatphobic 😂😂😂
@@keeradavis6832 you may now like the comment
Imagine how she would feel about people don't like to use any kind of sugar
binge eater/bulimic: could you please give me the whole cake? and bake another 2 just for me?
virgie: yas queen, eat how much you'd like! there are no long term consequences to your relationship with food!!!
Lol, just wait until she finds out that some people don’t even like cake.
I got invited to many b-days but didn't eat cake cause I hate it lmaoo
@@two6646 same,that or I ask for a different dessert like flan or cheesecake its a type of pie technically speaking)
It’s gross
@@two6646 Same
I can't eat cake because i hate simple sugars and can't handle the sweetness because it hurts my brain.
Its like Virgie is all about body positivity until someone is skinny..
i feel like if she saw what i eat in a day she would strangle me
@@illusionist1244 same here. I’m not particularly skinny, but I don’t eat a lot
I've struggles with weight for years vant keep it on me for nothing many years ago in 2004 a friend git murders and its stressed me out that much I went form 11st 12oz to just under 7 stone it took me till 2011 to get back to ten stone and that's where I'm at still to this day go up to 10st 7lb and back down like a yoyo again I'm so contous about it and feel like I look anorexic even though I'm not the docs tell me I'm at a good weight but always getting comments and I hate it I would never dream of telling a bigger person fuck me you put on timber on so why do they feel the need to tell me I've lost weight can't stand it.. I would love to out on weight but they lady in question is putting some dangerous material yes be happy with your size but be contous of the aftermath don't throw it out there that you are fat shaming just because you want a smaller peice of cake then them that's fucked
They’re hypocrites!
I’ve seen a group of them insult a “small fat” because she mentioned wanting to lose weight.
Small fat= someone who is overweight but can still fit in regular chairs and even buy clothes from some places.
I meant positive towards **my** body, not yours.
As a male nurse who worked within a female dominant environment: no prisoners are taken when it comes to cake.
It's the same in telephone call centres. You can also substitute cake with chocolate.
This is a bit true. My problem was that I couldn't walk past chocolate until about 3 years ago.....then I had a test for Hba1c...........now I keep walking 80% of the time, buuuuuut.....sometimes it's hard😂
I am not American so I'm konda confused. Is it a regular occurrence to have cake at work? Where I live we have breaks but with black coffee or tea.
@@mimiveggie8653At my old work, if someone has a birthday, they bring cake. Everyone gorges on it during morning tea break. (Australia)
As a recovering bulimic, I find it extremely offensive for her to say that portion control is fat-phobic. It's not fat phobic. It's health conscious.
I'm the same. Portion control is so important or I will eat too much and then the urge to throw it up is overwhelming. I'd rather just help myself by not letting myself get to that.
They unironically think portion control of any kind is akin to anorexia
they just automatically assume that portion control is only used for weight loss, when it in fact can also be used for weight gain. there’s so little focus on the opposite side of the spectrum now a days, i’m actually struggling to find healthy calorie dense foods because most meal prepping is done with the intent of loss. :/
to you guys/girls/theys,i hope your journey of being healthy goes well. virgie definitely spreads false and offensive information,either for fame,to be an asshole or another reason i can't quite say for certain.
What tips that is currently helping you?
Virgie: EAT THE CAKE
Me: please...my egg allergy-
Virgie: P A T R I A R C H Y
Why are you so fat phobic why
S/
v e g e t a b l e s a r e e v i l
- Virgie Tovar
LOL!
virgie: EAT THIS FUCKING CAKE
me: im lactose intoler- _gets cake shoved down throat_
Omg 🤣😂
I straight up just don’t care for cake. Didn’t know that made me an asshole and a pawn of the patriarchy
LOL
HOW COULD YOU !!! no but really cake ain't it 🤣
@@honeyrose1384 RIGHT I would rather spend my time and money on any other dessert than CAKE it's ain't even that good lol 😂 😂 😂 ☺
Same! I usually don't bother with it unless it's red velvet or German chocolate, but even then I can only handle a little bit. It just doesn't do it for me. Gooey brownies though? Fresh baked chocolate chip cookies? Give me the whole pan 😂
@@courtneyd4794 the only cake I like is cheesecake or DQ ice cream cakes.
9:02 this poor woman was probably just making sure that everyone at the party would be able to get a piece of cake
it's not all about you, sis
Isn't it funny how she describes smelling the cake and knowing what it's made of?
This was what I was thinking. Big party + small cake= small pieces
Virgie didn't even consider that possibility, probably because it involved thinking about someone other than Virgie.
exactly, i eat smaller pieces at parties especially if the cake is small to leave some for others lol
@@asuka2467 yeah, if I'm at home I will have as big a slice as I want at the time. If I'm at a party, I have a small slice because party cakes are not infinite and if everyone wants a bigger piece then someone will get left out. At adult parties, often the person who gets left out is the host/celebrant as it's only polite to serve everyone else first.
She’s actually insecure as hell, which is why she wants more people to get fat, so she won’t have to be.
Agree 100%. She doesn't have the willpower, so she just wants everyone to be like her. If she could take a magic pill tomorrow, and lose all the extra weight, you know she would.
Absolutely right! She's fat and she's ugly. I'm not judging, I am just describing what I see.
Agree! If she influences a group of people, she'll feel less alone and likely less shamed for her own bad habits.
10.000 IQ play
@@OnilMarteNavarroza 100%
Controlling how much you eat is a sign you are a reasonable person.
Yep, I feel we're becoming a national resource at this point. (People who still practice personal responsibility.)
Wait until she finds out that part of eating how much you want, includes people asking for less cake.
She already knows. She’s just an attention-starved psychopath.
😮
😮 NO!? Say it ain't so!?!?
That would require her to consider opinions outside of her own
This is what I came to the comments to post but you said it better
Does Virgie literally realize she's trying to control other women, what they eat, and the things they do with their bodies?
Her hypocrisy completely misses her. That’s what’s tragic and infuriating.
I think she's a troll, in every sense of the word.
Exactly. Instead of truly trying to dismantle the patriarchy and calling out the larger societal and systemic issues she just directs her petty rage at other women for having autonomy and self control over their bodies.
I'm pretty sure she mentally ill at this point
These replies are dumb. She’s telling you being overweight is unhealthy and all the medical evidence supports this. Wake up!!!!
Virgie: no one judges their own slice of cake if they're a cake judger.
Hi, I'm a cake judger. I judge every cake I see for various reasons. The sweetness, the flavor combo, the sponge, the frosting. If there's buttercream, I'm gonna say it's disgusting because I absolutely hate it. Yes, I do judge my own slice of cake. I judge every slice of cake I ever had my eye on. And also I pitch cake types against each other. In Virgies eyes I'm a horrible person.....
I wonder how she'd think of me if I'm hosting anything where cake is involved, I ain't hanging round while a gaggle of idiots I barely know demand individually sized slices of cake, the cake gets sliced and divided up equally, if you feel your slice is too big, by all means don't eat all of it, if you feel your slice is too small, too bad if there is any left get a second I really don't care 😂
@@cptsteele91 ahahahha same here lol. I like cutting the cake perfectly
Me with celiac disease : "no cake for me thank you."
Virgie: "patriarchy."
How dare you not want diarrhea!
@@MuttFitness lol. I know. It's just my internalized misogyny.
@@MuttFitness Yeah how dare you not want to damage the inner lining of your small intestines.
@@thatonechick6744 but diarrhea is so good, it means you have even more space inside you to stuff even more cake into your body, showing it love by filling it to the brim with love food.
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Oh lord, did i really write that ? That's it, no more sarcasm for me in 2020. I'm stuffed.
I'm there with you.
I like how she doesn't want anyone to criticize her eating habits, yet she freaks out every time somebody gets a small slice of cake
She wants to have her cake and eat it too
@@alyssapinon9670 and ours
and theirs
and that little kid in the corner
Tbf she probably wanted the small slice of cake... And the rest of the bakery shop.
“When you’re rich enough and have so few things to do, you just start inventing things to be upset about” - Some guy in a comment chain somewhere
I'm picturing her giving a lecture to someone with food allergies about how sexist they are for turning down food.
Is it so hard to believe that some people just aren't that into cake? Especially super sugary bakery cakes? I can't eat more than a few bites before I start feeling sick to my stomach. I'm not secretly dying to eat more cake.
EXACTLYY
@@greengypsybird2680 then you'd love filipino culture of celebrations always being paired with either macaroni and spaghetti or both
@J D I envy you but feel you. Savoury is meh for me but Omg sweet is just amazing. I'll give you my main if you give me your desert?
I am one of the mythical creatures that legitimately doesn't like cake. Cupcakes, I can get down with, but cake? Nah not for me!
i like cake but i’m not obsessed with it. it’s not that great lmao
Virgie: “Eat how much you want!”
Also Virgie: “How dare you ask for a smaller piece of cake?” Uhhhhh. My brain hurts.
Me: **asks for a small piece of cake because I’m not that hungry**
Vergie: Listen here you little fatphobic-
Icey Limeade I always have a small piece of cake because I can’t handle super sweet things lol
Radish UwU sometimes when I eat sugar I can feel my teeth burning
I ate cake just for the taste and not to fill up my stomach.
*me asked for a small piece because I don't like cake and too polite to say no*
"You're being sexiest"
I don't know why but this made me laugh so hard all of the sudden!! thank you!!
I hate how people decided to turn "fat positivity" from being like "I'm not a monster for being overweight and I love myself despite what others say =)” into "healthy = pure evil"
This! So much this! You can absolutely love yourself at any size AND want to make healthier choices. It's not mutually exclusive.
Those same people are vulters.
The health at every size was actually health for every size which I can get behind.
The whole body positive movement is also stolen from people who don't have a choice to change the way they look; burn victims, amputees, etc.
I'm all for we all deserve to love ourselves but these movements are not helping anyone now.
Unfortunately, a lot of people go to extremes. I had a close friend of several years that was a very funny and sweet but terribly insecure in her skin when we met in high school. As the years passed and her food addiction worsened she became much heavier. I would always try to lift her up about herself and her looks, but it wasn't easy when she became increasingly bitter about her weight and her relationship failings. She also wasn't an honest person. She would literally catfish guys online and then react terribly when they wouldn't go on a second date. As if it was all their fault for being lied to. She would praise lies paraded as facts by Tess and the like while simultaneously calling herself a disgusting whale no one will love. She refused every attempt to go on walks together to lose weight as a team but found a way to turn every conversation into her own misery and really developed a love hate relationship with men. Wanting them to want her, and making comments like how all men are weak and can't handle real women - while sitting right in front of my husband who's a wonderful person. I am all for loving the skin you're in. I'm 5'5", just barely under 200 pounds but have been heavier. I won't give up ice cream, but I also make sure to enjoy a varied diet that included fruits and vegetables. I don't go to the gym but I have a physically active job and go on walks. I try to maintain balance and to take care of myself and while my weight loss has been gradual I don't regain what I lose like so many of these "fat" TH-camrs claim. But when it comes to the very obese, I've yet to see a personal example that isn't dominated by refusal to accept blame and self loathing.
I know. Health isn't actually the problem; diet culture caused by beuty stereotypes is...
@@NeonCherryBlossum less SJW and more “If I can’t succeed I’ll manipulate others to fail with me”
Imagine an alcoholic doing this shit.
not gonna lie
You know someone with this kind of content?
Underrated comment!
100% her whole thing here boils down to 'You're no fun anymore'
@Alessandra Gabbana I doubt that tbh. Where I'm from they're seen as troublemakers and someone who kids shouldn't grow up to be...
The guy that owns heart attack grill in Las Vegas said it best, he said he does what he does is because the public wants it and money speaks volumes. He was a heart surgeon in the past and now he helps people get closer to a heart attack cause he got tired.
I had a different read on the cake story. It seems the woman said the slices should be smaller (i.e., the entire cake should be cut into smaller slices) and Virgie freaks out because smaller slices mean she will not get as much cake as she craves. That is, this woman was getting between Virgie and her gluttony.
That’s what I was thinking too! Maybe the woman was asking for the cake to be cut into smaller slices so there was enough for everyone, not because she was judging others for the size of their slice of cake. It’s such a strange mindset to have to immediately go to being judged.
how the hell does one explain to these psychotic women that vegetables aren't sexist?
I guess carrots are too phallic for poor Virgie
I'm too sober for that question...
What lol!! That apart I think there should be more videos such as this on fat enabling pro-obesity influencers like Tess Holiday and Shonalee Christy Harrison Linda Bacon to create awareness on the lies they spread and their promotion of obesity. Tess holiday claims she promotes self-love and shows herself ‘working out’ aka walking but she is really advocates for obesity on her social media platforms.
you dont, these people are a lost cause, the rest of us should just use them as workout motivation and leave it at that: "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." "Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself."
Depends on what she does with her cucumbers
I’m sorry, are you telling me this woman wrote a whole article just because she overheard somebody ask for a smaller slice of cake? How egocentric is she?
you are starting to sound very ego-phobic
@@360.Tapestry you are starting to sound essinophobic. Maybe i dont want a big piece of cake and its not because im worried about my image. Its honestly not that complicated
@@pajamas720 sarcasm lol
@@Clementine3107 no, ive seen other comments this guy made, he might not be joking.
@@pajamas720 context
Similarly I wanna just sit her down and say “girl i wear a size seven shoe and weigh 300 lbs. i’m not dieting because im a victim of the patriarchy, my feet just fucking hurt. Its not that deep.”
I’m glad you are taking care of yourself x
Omg yes this!
I love your comment
Proud of you 🥰
So true. Weight loss relieved lots of pressure off my feet and joints and I feel so much better really. Good on you 😌
That person is a criminal. I'm glad I found your channel. I've been struggling with my weight since forever. Since being fit, I'm now all about keeping it that way. I feel so much better without headache, mood swings, heartburns, not being able to walk and being in pain all the time. Your channel helps a lot by reminding me of a dark place I do not wish to revisit. Thank you for correcting such people.
Omg the heartburn right? I thought I just had to live like that turns out it was the trash food I was eating making me feel horrible
Yeah. I really like to be able to fit in regular chairs. To get up off the floor by myself. To fit in a regular bathtub. To chase my kids and (occasionally) catch them. For that, I'm willing to turn down cake sometimes.
To be able to tie your shoes without passing out...
You monster!😂 I bet you like tying your own shoe laces too😂
I’m even crazier cuz I like bathing without assistance
I completely understand about wanting to fit into regular size chairs. We have several chairs at my home that have the sides up so you have to be a particular size to sit in them comfortably, and for the longest time I wasn't able to sit in them comfortably. My thighs would press up against the sides, and it would be massively uncomfortable. I felt so ashamed that I had let myself get that big.
I had gained a lot of weight because my mom passed away in 2019, and I have always struggled with my weight. I've been up before and I've been down. My highest weight has been 267, and my lowest weight has been 199. And I have a huge list of family history and personal weight related issues. But last month, I decided I had had enough, and I'm currently working my way to 170 lb. I'm very proud to say that I've lost a good bit of weight (14 pounds) and can now fit in regular size chairs. I legitimately cried.
Really sorry for the long reply, but I felt like sharing.
@EasternSharqii I promise that I will do my very best. Thank you so much for your encouragement.
@@lunabearsong2043 keep up the good work, love hearing about people’s progress😁😁❤️❤️❤️❤️💯💯
"If you ask for a smaller slice of cake, you're fatphobic!"
Me, literally just full:
or i find frosting too sweet and it kind of physically hurts to eat it after a few bites? so, I just want a little, because I like it, but not a whole plate, because i don't want to be wasteful?
Or me, who just doesn't like sweets that much since childhood (thus my sweet tolerance is very low). Apparently having a food preference is basically being an ally to patriarchy.
And frosting is literally so sweet that it's hard to have a big slice
@@elaynarice7389 omg the frosting. You can tell just by looking at that cake it's only sugar. It's not even a diet thing, that just tastes bad.
@@karendaniel450 I came to the point that I just prefer plain cakes now (fresh out of the oven) without anything added because frosting is just too nauseating. It really taste bad, I understand the need to make the cake looks good but the taste is just... no.
As an underweight person with Crohn’s disease, cakes and chocolate causes me severe nausea and vomiting , I love sweets more than anything and I feel so proud when I say no to cake to preserve my health , I do receive a lot of comments from people saying “ oh you’re so thin you don’t need to diet “ but I do need to live pain free
i don’t have crohns but i have IBS and if i eat too much of certain things i get stomach pain so i agree
Hope u feel better
Stay strong 💪🏻♥️
I hope you get well soon!
Feel better 💞
As I recover from my binge eating disorder, I feel like while "fat positive" or HAES activists are starting in the right direction by recognizing their relationship with food should be healed, they only ever seem to get halfway. Healing your relationship with food is so much more than removing the stigma away from eating "bad" foods, but their insecurity and difficult pasts with food keep them from truly listening when they're criticized. Thank you for your thoughtful video
“Sorry I can’t eat cake. I’m vegan”
“fATpHObIC”
@@riskybitness Yeah, maybe because we are the only 'diet' group that is on average within a normal BMI^^
@@riskybitness It's just on average but obviously you can be fit without being plant-based. But anyway I think she would highly profit from eating a little bit more fruit and veggies..
Uhmm, vegan cake? 😂
Vegan cake yo!
I have been forced through politeness to eat cake I didn't want BECAUSE I am vegan. People go out of their way to make another cake or make it vegan for everyone etc... so sweet and kind and unnecessary as I don't like cake... but you have to pretend when someone has been that lovely.
She literally defined "health" as how you feel "regardless of health status"
Right?? The illogic and contradiction is head-spinning.
the jokes write themselves
🙈
@Don K she looks like edna
That's the first thing that stood out to me. Health regardless of health.
In French, a diet to lose weight is called “régime”, and a diet as a general way of eating is called “diète”. I like this linguistic distinction. It’s a mentality healthier way of talking about the way we eat and our goals.
Smoked veggies are literally to DIE FOR. A sheet of onions, broccoli, carrots, and cauliflower smoked with some garlic salt is sooooo delicious.
if youve never devoured a plate of roasted vegetables PLEASE DO IT ITS AMAZING
@@karkat4493
YESSS! Like I can eat an entire tray of roasted cauliflower or roasted brussel sprouts! They’re soooo good
@@mosscoveredfrog155 i love roasted broccoli
Same roasted broccoli is the good stuff
REEEEEEEEEEEEE! That's just the internalized sexism talking 🤪
*“Eat however much you want”*
Ok... I want a smaller slice
“👁👄👁”
Wait, that's illegal
Exactly 🤣
" not like that"
That emoji face
"You're not body-positive and have been brainwashed by the patriarchy!"
Sometimes people don’t eat vegetables because they wanna be “thinner “ sometimes people just like them ! I’m Asian and in my culture our foods are predominantly vegetable based , I mainly eat miso soup , curry , sushi and pad Thai . All really good for you so don’t demonize veggies pls
Curry has to be a favourite for me, I've even tried sushi; I love sushi as well. I've even made myself rice and raw eggs since that's a Japanese breakfast dish.
I'm Asian myself and even tho I am not fond of vegetables I pretty much can't avoid it even in dishes with meat and chicken 🤣 Eat your vegetables, kids!
@@reelan1036 yeah ! They are good for you so they are pretty easy to ignore
yea i like vegetables they’re not that bad and i like sushi too 🤔
As an Asian i agree with you. Using her logic of "Eat what you want", then i want some kailan vegetables, yummy.
I feel like the woman cutting the cake just wanted to make sure there were enough slices for everyone at the party???
RIGHT omg the egoism
Also some people dont have much of a sweet tooth. My husband always asks for a small piece
Maybe she should buy her own cake.
Me! Whenever I take a part of food I always worry whether it's enough for everybody. But not in the case of this big girl.
Moms are the best managers in the world. I am even gonna name my real estate properties after my mother's name.