Could you avoid being hit by a laser if you were in a room of mirrors?

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  • @zachstar
    @zachstar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4671

    Alright 2 things to add here
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    2) Spoilers down below but this is where I want to acknowledge what I mention at the end of the video. I never explained WHY there is repetition after you reflect the midpoint back to the main room and the best explanation I got is quite a mouthful and it involves modular arithmetic. Let's say that the target is at point (x,y) (and we're just going to consider the horizontal reflections). After you reflect it to the right, the reflection lands at (2-x,y) and after another reflection it goes to (2+x,y) then (4-x,y) then (4+x,y) and so on. As you can see, reflected points all land at (2n +- x,y) (as in the x coordinates are just even numbers plus or minus x).
    Adding in some modular arithmetic you'll notice these are all congruent to x (mod 1), or -x (mod 1) . That's all that can happen as you reflect a point about the left or ride side of those 1x1 squares actually, the point either stays the same (mod 1), or it becomes negative (mod 1).
    Now again, all the x coordinates of the reflected targets can be written as 2n +- x, meaning the midpoints would be (2n+x+u)/2 = n + x/2 + u/2 and (2n-x+u)/2 = n - x/2 + u/2 (assuming the shooter has coordinates (u,v)). So we have two sets of midpoints and these midpoints go on forever with n. When those points are reflected back, as we've seen, they either stay the same mod 1, or become negative mod 1. So we have 4 different results, n+x/2+u/2, n-x/2+u/2, -n-x/2-u/2, and -n+x/2-u/2 (all mod 1). This seems like infinitely many points still because of n, but n can be dropped from all of these because it doesn't change the value mod 1. For example 1+x/2+u/2 = 2+x/2+u/2 mod 1, meaning they are the same point in the original 1x1 room. So we have 4 answers, x/2+u/2, -x/2+u/2, -x/2-u/2, and x/2-u/2 (all mod 1), these are all the x coordinates after the midpoints are reflected back, there can be nothing more. So that's 4 different x coordinates and the same thing can be done for the y coordinates, leaving us with 16 points in total.
    Then to finally to answer the other question of how can you be safe with less than 16 blockers, it can happen if the x (or y) coordinates of the shooter and target add to 1. Because then x/2+u/2 and -x/2 - u/2 are now congruent mod 1, and the other two are also congruent. So what was 4 different x coordinates becomes 2.

    • @RussellSubedi
      @RussellSubedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      So, I'm guessing the next video is going to be about modular arithmetic then?
      Also, shouldn't it be mod 4, as they repeat after 4 reflections? I'm confused.

    • @thedoublehelix5661
      @thedoublehelix5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@RussellSubedi he used the continuous version of mod not the normal number theory one. It's like how you can always reduce an angle to it's representation mod 2pi. 3pi = pi (mod 2pi).

    • @RussellSubedi
      @RussellSubedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thedoublehelix5661 I'm not really familiar with it, so got confused. Still looking forward to a video on it though.

    • @simopelle
      @simopelle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      I'm gonna pretend I understood it

    • @pbj4184
      @pbj4184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thedoublehelix5661 What's the normal number theory one? I thought mod just gave you the least number greater than 0 left after repeated subtraction. Doesn't that definition rope everything in?

  • @Julian-ij2zm
    @Julian-ij2zm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30468

    Man i hate when im in a perfectly square room made of mirrors and there is someone trying to shoot me with a laser which will never lose its energy as it reflects, thank you for the video.

    • @xKogue
      @xKogue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1349

      Damn, it's so annoying, im so grateful that this video exist.

    • @megadeth116
      @megadeth116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1209

      Also I hate being a point in a 2 dimmensional space

    • @RoeiCohen
      @RoeiCohen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +552

      SHOOTER MOVES TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION
      Oh shi

    • @ferranpujolcio440
      @ferranpujolcio440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +247

      @@RoeiCohen go to a corner and make a barrier xddd

    • @username-jo8kf
      @username-jo8kf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Hate it when that happens man

  • @lordheaviside2605
    @lordheaviside2605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8505

    To all people who say math has no applications, what a fool you must feel now! Who can say he has never been in this extremely relatable situation?

    • @dkexpat2755
      @dkexpat2755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      You never know man :D

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      It's not relatable because usually the laser is able to move around where in this the laser can only rotate. Additionally people and blockers are not points.

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Andrew Anderson Since you are much bigger than the laser, you can't just approximate yourself as a point.

    • @iteerrex8166
      @iteerrex8166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      No application? The whole our modern world is based on math. The quantitative understanding of every science is based on math, be it "rocket science" or gardening. But this is of course has a great application in video-gaming ;-)

    • @dkexpat2755
      @dkexpat2755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@iteerrex8166 Okay Sheldon Cooper, understand the context here omg :D

  • @ShaeTollefson
    @ShaeTollefson ปีที่แล้ว +166

    This has happened to me 7 times now and I’ve died every single time. Thanks for the tip for when it happens again!

    • @RealBasil143
      @RealBasil143 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yo, has it happened again? You okay?

    • @ShaeTollefson
      @ShaeTollefson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RealBasil143 I’m a survivor.

    • @Erivel
      @Erivel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He´s a cat, last life

    • @Davsennn
      @Davsennn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      just use a totem of undying

  • @phillipgan
    @phillipgan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    interesting stuff. i'd love to see some sort of interactive demo where you could drag around the two points and see how all the blockers would have to move to compensate.

    • @stippystips9418
      @stippystips9418 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      same i was hoping for one

    • @tetragramatonYHVH
      @tetragramatonYHVH 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      it might be easy to program it, it doesn't involve any strange formula

  • @frgal1336
    @frgal1336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +645

    *Me when I saw the title:* oh well you just wait until the light dissipates.
    *the video immediately:* It never loses its energy.

    • @xxmysticexpertxx113
      @xxmysticexpertxx113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No it says curiositystream immediately

    • @DoodleNoodle129
      @DoodleNoodle129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You may have outsmarted me, but I have outsmarted your outsmarting

    • @dannyboi7286
      @dannyboi7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DoodleNoodle129 I'm gonna pretend that I understand how that makes sense with the context.

    • @DashBolt
      @DashBolt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dannyboi7286 he thought he outsmarted the problem, but his outsmarting was outsmarted by the lack of energy dissipation

    • @Daniel-wu6pl
      @Daniel-wu6pl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DoodleNoodle129 joseph

  • @mt9456
    @mt9456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2006

    Now we just need someone to individually animate all the laser paths

    • @omguleehjh7908
      @omguleehjh7908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      no

    • @ShizaanSil
      @ShizaanSil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I wanna say challenge accepted so much, but i dont have time/determination to do it lol

    • @andrewcheng1948
      @andrewcheng1948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Just do a light blub

    • @justsomebread6553
      @justsomebread6553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      The rtx 3090 was made for a reason

    • @Bob2854
      @Bob2854 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red cube

  • @Pax.Britannica
    @Pax.Britannica ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Going from comedy sketches to in-depth presentations on something as interesting as this, is a pretty amazing transition, GG

    • @iamcurious9541
      @iamcurious9541 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought it was the other way around?

    • @youyou475
      @youyou475 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Other way around

    • @youyou475
      @youyou475 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iamcurious9541 Yes

    • @Pax.Britannica
      @Pax.Britannica ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@youyou475 yeah yeah, still a pretty respectable transition.

  • @KuroroSama42
    @KuroroSama42 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Just guessing without thinking too hard about it, but I'm going to guess it's 16 because of this: You have 4 sides, so you have 2^4 ways of using those sides - you're using each side either an odd or even number of times. A higher number of odd/even times just ends up cancelling them down to simplify into one of the basic 16 situations.
    To simplify, let's just look at the left and right walls. Either you're hitting both an even number of times, the left odd and right even, the left even and right odd, or both an odd number of times. Whether the combination is left 2 and right 1 or left 10 and right 9, the same point ends up being it's center point. That's the 4 dots you put at first.

  • @jigyasbaruah1413
    @jigyasbaruah1413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +759

    Damn now I know what would happen if I was stuck in a mirror room with lasers

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      simple solution: wear armor of polished aluminum

    • @srijitapaul5080
      @srijitapaul5080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      reality is 3d instead of 2d.

    • @cordlefhrichter1520
      @cordlefhrichter1520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@srijitapaul5080 Oh yeah, that's true, there's no reason it shouldn't work in 3 dimensions as well. Or, for that matter, even higher dimensions (I think).

    • @cordlefhrichter1520
      @cordlefhrichter1520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought something felt off about my answer: "
      Russell Subedi
      39 minutes ago (edited)
      For a cube, I think it's simple. Just go up to 4x4x4=64 dots. For a triangle though, I'm guessing 9 dots (as it would repeat after 3 iterations) making 27 for a tetrahedral room.
      Edit: I just thought of it as a tiling problem, which might not have worked. If someone sees a problem with this, an explanation would be appreciated."

    • @nuklearboysymbiote
      @nuklearboysymbiote 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cordlefhrichter1520 triangles don't tile the same way as squares, in the video the square room is used as a unit in the coordinate plane, but u can't do that with triangles… maybe?

  • @PapaFlammy69
    @PapaFlammy69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4986

    I would see myself probably dunno ngl

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +617

      wtf did I comment lol

    • @nuklearboysymbiote
      @nuklearboysymbiote 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@PapaFlammy69 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @nerdsgalore5223
      @nerdsgalore5223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      @@PapaFlammy69 papa has short term memory loss 😳

    • @NNOTM
      @NNOTM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Hmm TH-cam says this comment was posted 4 days ago and the replies 5 days ago

    • @neilstuart4388
      @neilstuart4388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He was tripping 🤣🤣

  • @ant-mf6kl
    @ant-mf6kl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The amount of peope saying "just put 4/5/6 blockers around you" is genuinely worrying

  • @CharlesB147
    @CharlesB147 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This use of reflections is also one method for calculating bank and kick shots in pool off of one or multiple rails (just factor in a little bit of physics about speed and friction).

  • @cononsberg6919
    @cononsberg6919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3932

    Pretty cool how, in a room full of mirrors, this would also completely hide you from a target.

    • @diaamooond
      @diaamooond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      wait what thats actually true lmao

    • @hannibal8810
      @hannibal8810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +231

      wouldnt just shooting at one of your reflections result in being hit?

    • @blonkerdook5758
      @blonkerdook5758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes lol

    • @The25thWam
      @The25thWam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      @@hannibal8810 did you watch the video

    • @capsey_
      @capsey_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +367

      ohh so this is why evolution gave us two eyes. it's not for seeing distance using parallax, it's so you always see your target in perfectly reflective square room in 2 dimentional world with 16 point blockers in exact blocking positions trying to shoot it with laser gun that doesn't loose it's energy after reflection. obviously!

  • @jayxi5021
    @jayxi5021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2807

    Just say no and the light won't touch you because it isn't legally allowed touch you without your consent. No need of those fancy 16 blockers

    • @RussellSubedi
      @RussellSubedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      I wouldn't use the word "legally" here. There's nothing in the laws of physics that prevents the light from touching you, even though there's a moral concern.

    • @cordlefhrichter1520
      @cordlefhrichter1520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      @@RussellSubedi Sure there is, why do you think it's called the "Laws of Physics"? Because if the light breaks one of the laws, like the speed limit, then it goes to jail.

    • @RussellSubedi
      @RussellSubedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@cordlefhrichter1520 Well, it would go to jail before it breaks the law, if the law in question is the speed limit.

    • @Felixkeeg
      @Felixkeeg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Instructions unclear, I turned invisible

    • @herobrine1847
      @herobrine1847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haha black hole succ light

  • @yumnuska
    @yumnuska 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m late to the show, and there’s a lot of cheeky comments so far. I just want to say that I was really surprised, and really happy with the result! Thank you for this.

  • @wturri78
    @wturri78 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love CuriosityStream! I've been subscribed for years now.

  • @giovannirozatti9903
    @giovannirozatti9903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    If DVD screens taught ne something: yes if you stay on corners.

    • @mouthlesshater
      @mouthlesshater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, just put a blocker there to be safe.

    • @atchaaa
      @atchaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mouthlesshater that’s a good wisdom
      Also all hail Winner

    • @foggyxires
      @foggyxires 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      winner how do you feel joining TPOT

    • @theodoreklopman7057
      @theodoreklopman7057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tcher jhigl seghrt fhcwerd ghthicmus!!!!

  • @quietstories795
    @quietstories795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3176

    Room of mirrors where a lazer that never runs out of energy trying to kill you sounds like an SCP entry

    • @shahproductionsuser2965
      @shahproductionsuser2965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      fellow scp lover

    • @O_FisicoTeorico
      @O_FisicoTeorico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Sound more like a Stand ability

    • @SCP_O49
      @SCP_O49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah it does

    • @SCP_O49
      @SCP_O49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@resurrectedcandywastaken no he's correct

    • @Milkola
      @Milkola 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

  • @justicesportsman6020
    @justicesportsman6020 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If American students paid attention in math class they'd know how to avoid shooters.

  • @awesome_billy_bob
    @awesome_billy_bob 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am just realizing that this is the same guy who makes all the comedy sketches that I watch. I had no clue about this, and am doubting life as I know it. I never thought of him as a mathematician.

  • @tonycatlett1169
    @tonycatlett1169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1056

    Mathematicians: Uses this information for intellectual purposes
    Me: uses this information to beat my friends in air hockey

    • @tomwanders6022
      @tomwanders6022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Except this time your the blocker and it’s not just a point but a thick thing which I don’t know the name of, but I see your point.

    • @deathsheir2035
      @deathsheir2035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@tomwanders6022 puck, the word you're looking for is puck

    • @tomwanders6022
      @tomwanders6022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@deathsheir2035 ty good sir. So its the same name in german.

    • @ARandomMinecraftVillager
      @ARandomMinecraftVillager 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@tomwanders6022 in Spanish we call it "That thing used to play Air Hockey"

    • @kcasd3470
      @kcasd3470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ARandomMinecraftVillager huh I’be usually heard it being called “el disco”

  • @baconking3162
    @baconking3162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1637

    the 20 dislikes are from people who surrounded themselves with 8 points thinking they were circles.

    • @davidegaruti2582
      @davidegaruti2582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      false i didn't dislike

    • @vilmavaitonyte2451
      @vilmavaitonyte2451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@davidegaruti2582 nonono, he said that people who disliked thought they were circles, not people who thought they were circles disliked.
      100% of the people who disliked thought they were circles
      not 100% of the people who thought they were circles disliked

    • @vilmavaitonyte2451
      @vilmavaitonyte2451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@davidegaruti2582 no

    • @user-rh8re2jf5f
      @user-rh8re2jf5f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vilmavaitonyte2451 but that's just the same but said differently

    • @NicholasStillman
      @NicholasStillman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@user-rh8re2jf5f no, they're different. The first says everyone who disliked thought they were circles. So 10/10 people thought they were circles and disliked. But the second says 100% of people who thought they were circles, disliked. Which is different. Because 10 more people could've thought they were circles, but only 8 of those 10 disliked. So 100% of people who disliked thought they were circles, but not 100% of people who thought they were circles, disliked.

  • @Hogscraper
    @Hogscraper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A guy named Nils Berglund has an awesome demonstration of this in action with an expanding circle of dots where the 16 blockers end up creating a bunch of various sized, moving arc segments with holes. Fun to watch as every single one gets close but never actually touch the target dot. I saw that he linked to this video so it was awesome following that up with an explanation of what I had just watched!

  • @humanrightsadvocate
    @humanrightsadvocate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    In a room with mirrors on walls, for each pair (light source, observer) there is a set of 16 columns that will obstruct not only the light from the source, but also the light from all reflections. Now I want to see how the position of those 16 points changes as the positions of the light source and observer change.

    • @ImSquiggs
      @ImSquiggs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Waiting for the day some bored person that’s good with Python puts this together and links it here, haha

  • @paulspiano3603
    @paulspiano3603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +604

    “to answer that, we need to talk about parallel universes”

    • @dracofenix3860
      @dracofenix3860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      10/10 reference

    • @drakerose3789
      @drakerose3789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Or do we? To answer that, we need to define "parallel universes".

    • @FakestLoogi
      @FakestLoogi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Super Mario 64 Star through the Bouncing Laser 1x Blocker

    • @stonium69
      @stonium69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It’s weird that the pattern repeats every 4. If mario is qpu aligned then the direct path blocker will always work

    • @danielthomas7917
      @danielthomas7917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ur logo small pp but u big pp

  • @ChannelJeffrey
    @ChannelJeffrey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1439

    The solution was surprising and surprisingly satisfying.

    • @manuell3505
      @manuell3505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I didn't watch it. It depends on the shape of the room.

    • @davewilson13
      @davewilson13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very much so!

    • @amicloud_yt
      @amicloud_yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Satisfyingly surprising and surprisingly satisfying.

    • @royplatt455
      @royplatt455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's actually surprisingly simple.

    • @jordanhooper6511
      @jordanhooper6511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@manuell3505 well, if you’d watch in then you’d know he was using a square.

  • @scottgerk7627
    @scottgerk7627 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Late to the party, but does this apply to rooms with differing number of sides?
    Would an octoganal room require 64 blockers? Triangular 9?

  • @gamgamesplayer4506
    @gamgamesplayer4506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    the first thing i thought was hiding in the corner and adding 2 blockers to block the 2 sides

  • @noahgranger6749
    @noahgranger6749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +472

    Math puzzles:
    "We'll start small and work up to infinity"

  • @ThingEngineer
    @ThingEngineer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +621

    Kid, “math is so stupid why do we have to learn it, I’m never going to use it?”
    “Yes you will, because lasers.”

    • @okabekun844
      @okabekun844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      the sun is a deadly laser

    • @bahrid0563
      @bahrid0563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not anymore there's a blanket~

    • @qn_.
      @qn_. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      “No”

    • @shojiy.7683
      @shojiy.7683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not yet

    • @peytonheilman
      @peytonheilman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why didn’t he just put the blockers in a circle around the target? Am I missing something?

  • @Kanamo4781
    @Kanamo4781 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    my brain just went before any explaination "just use 6 blocker around you (make sure they touch each other) and you'd be good to go" and then you used almost 3 times as many

  • @user-jp2if6vb8k
    @user-jp2if6vb8k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so relateable

  • @mathieulabrosse8671
    @mathieulabrosse8671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Anyone who has seen the DVD logo bounce on a screen knows the safest spot is the corner

    • @justkev1044
      @justkev1044 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbh the logo should just travel in a shape of a parallelogram
      Cuz screens are rectangular and the logo bounces in the same angle as when it’s incoming so it just repeat the same angle when bouncing every two times and that’s parallelogram

    • @bhagyshreetambe5060
      @bhagyshreetambe5060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah!

    • @TheBiscuitFactory
      @TheBiscuitFactory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anyone who has watched the office knows that’s not true

    • @jurgeysamuel
      @jurgeysamuel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was my exact line of thought

  • @IJNAoba9-25-26
    @IJNAoba9-25-26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +488

    "Switching to your pistol is faster than Reloading."

    • @largeavocado
      @largeavocado 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      True but carrying ammo uses less space

    • @deathsheir2035
      @deathsheir2035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@largeavocado never enter combat without a sidearm

    • @dannyboi7286
      @dannyboi7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Am I the only confused one?

    • @suryanshthakur5820
      @suryanshthakur5820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dannyboi7286 No

    • @BirbBoiYT
      @BirbBoiYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dannyboi7286 profile picture fits.

  • @kashskitchen7178
    @kashskitchen7178 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Crazy how 16 one CM blockers block ALL paths

  • @hadisantamaria8214
    @hadisantamaria8214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think a animation of the shooter and target ger moving, with the blockers responding would be cool

  • @benaronson2410
    @benaronson2410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1205

    This was a really cool puzzle. I didn’t entirely understand it but it was cool.

    • @adm4939
      @adm4939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What didn't you understand?

    • @benaronson2410
      @benaronson2410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How the grid and its xy values can correspond to inside the room

    • @lighthunter8917
      @lighthunter8917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@adm4939 why 4 reflections in x axis? Why not 5 or 3 or even 2? What's so special about number 4 here? He simply told us they will repeat, yet he didn't proved it mathematically.

    • @adm4939
      @adm4939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      4: the # of sides of the room?

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lighthunter8917 he said he would explain elsewhere, and he did. It’s in the pinned comment

  • @LivingUnlabeled
    @LivingUnlabeled 3 ปีที่แล้ว +429

    so then if set up properly, the target and the shooter wouldn’t be able to see each other in the mirrors

    • @Piyush_Works
      @Piyush_Works 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You blew my mind!

    • @moo8866
      @moo8866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why

    • @indriyantoYin
      @indriyantoYin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      if you cant see me, you cant attack me

    • @jfskibumjr
      @jfskibumjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@moo8866 if there is no possible path for a beam of light to take from one point to another, you can not see that point as you have no light reaching your eyes from that point

    • @THEPELADOMASTER
      @THEPELADOMASTER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@moo8866 the only way for a laser to bounce off a mirror and hit a target is if you aim it at one of the reflections.
      In this video, all the paths the laser can take to the target have been covered. So from the point of origin of the laser you can't see the target

  • @josephboulet4477
    @josephboulet4477 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've thought about this ever since watching the dvd player screen saver, waiting to see if it can ever hit perfectly in the corner of the screen.

  • @PuffleBuns
    @PuffleBuns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Ah, yes, now I just need to prepare 16 blockers to be carried with me everywhere I go in case I land in this super relatable situation again.

    • @yikes8707
      @yikes8707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait........ again?!

    • @mouthlesshater
      @mouthlesshater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *prepares 1 blocker*
      I’m prepared.
      *hides on corner*

  • @Bebebebe22-
    @Bebebebe22- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +516

    Yeet the block at the shooter when he's distracted.

    • @mt9456
      @mt9456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lmao

    • @tubax926
      @tubax926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You fuck up and yeet it at his reflection. GG

    • @lemon._.thecat957
      @lemon._.thecat957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tubax926 you just took down many possible paths. Gg

    • @Grimacgg
      @Grimacgg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea tell him theres a mirror behind him

    • @edmon974
      @edmon974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You just need to start dancing the distraction dance

  • @NoahK216
    @NoahK216 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a cool explainer. Incredible work if this is originally yours

  • @coolkid6701
    @coolkid6701 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m in algebra 2 rn and we have been talking about i and this reminds me of it because after just 4 it repeats itself

  • @beanslinger2
    @beanslinger2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    consider: put a point directly on the shooter so no lasers can be shot, they would be absorbed immediately for infinitely many paths

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    • @DaBestNub
      @DaBestNub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He can turn around and bounce off the back wall

    • @beanslinger2
      @beanslinger2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@DaBestNub again, it would be stopped at its origin, so no lasers can leave

    • @DaBestNub
      @DaBestNub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@beanslinger2 do you mean right on top or directly in front?

    • @beanslinger2
      @beanslinger2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@DaBestNub right on top, like in the same position

  • @zachstar
    @zachstar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +849

    Getting this comment a lot so just want to emphasize that these blockers are NOT pixels, they are infinitely small (zero dimensional) points. So no you cannot surround the shooter or target with 8 of these blockers (or any finite number), to actually surround one of them you'd need an uncountably infinite number of blockers.

    • @MarkPariente
      @MarkPariente 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I guess one could ask how can a zero dimensional point block a three dimensional photon that occupies nonzero volume but suffice to say that this thought experiment assumes the reflecting light to also be point-like and zero dimensional.

    • @bacchess
      @bacchess 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MarkPariente no

    • @PastyMancer
      @PastyMancer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I'd just break the mirrors lol

    • @chloroplast8611
      @chloroplast8611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Just place a blocker on the shooters exact x y position. A light cant be spawmed then and yuo win

    • @hunterthemadman
      @hunterthemadman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That doesn't make things better. That means that the situation is even harder to deal with...

  • @jlim193
    @jlim193 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This would make a fun flash game

  • @ArchangelExile
    @ArchangelExile 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks! Now, I know what to do if I'm stuck in a room of mirrors and someone's trying to shoot me with a laser!

  • @HsinTsungChu
    @HsinTsungChu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    This is definitely relatable. The other day I was stuck inside a rectangular room with the four walls made of mirrors. And there was someone trying to shoot me with a laser gun! What a horrifying experience! Fortunately I was able to locate the 16 blockers on the correct coordinates. So I survived

    • @Quantainiumify
      @Quantainiumify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      im sure you were glad you were not in a cube or you would have been SOL

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Quantainiumify
      Does the same logic not work adding 1 more dimension? It would just be 4^3 blockers, or 64.

    • @freezo7299
      @freezo7299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you were in this totally retatable problem, and someone actually was trying to shoot you with a lazer gun, and it wasnt an immovable robot or something, they could simply move past the blockers.

    • @freezo7299
      @freezo7299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But i guess not since youre alive still

    • @electronx5594
      @electronx5594 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@freezo7299 they don't dare lmao, if that's reality I rather not shoot, I don't wanna die since I can't really calculate the lazor path precisely

  • @legendgames128
    @legendgames128 ปีที่แล้ว +2114

    I feel like this could work well as a puzzle video game. You have 16 blockers at the beginning, and a very unskilled opponent, who fires directly at you with one laser, but as you get further into the puzzles, the opponent uses more lasers, takes unusual paths, and you get less blockers over time.

    • @Alguien644
      @Alguien644 ปีที่แล้ว +246

      The meta would be making a circle around you with the blockers or trapping the shooter

    • @vindastew
      @vindastew ปีที่แล้ว +46

      ender's game type beat

    • @ArielMaxis
      @ArielMaxis ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@vindastew frr lol

    • @SpeedKing..
      @SpeedKing.. ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@vindastew that movie sucks fr

    • @colten7525
      @colten7525 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@SpeedKing.. ok

  • @D3__
    @D3__ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Before watching, I have 3 ideas for an amount to protect myself.
    1: if blockers can be any shape of any size: 1. Just a wall through the whole room.
    2: if blockers can be rectangles of limited size, 3. Triangular around me, trapping me.
    2: if they have to be circles of equal size to my footprint circle, 6. Hexagonally around me. Touching me as well as themselves, leaving no gap.

  • @Digg3rL3ss
    @Digg3rL3ss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so relatable man

  • @invenblocker
    @invenblocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1793

    "Can't we just do this?"
    "No we can't."
    "Ok, but we could if we turned this problem into an entirely different one."

    • @hongkonger885
      @hongkonger885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nice 69 likes

    • @jonathanholtlajer2949
      @jonathanholtlajer2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah for an example you could just suround yourself with the circles

    • @blankslate7
      @blankslate7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jonathanholtlajer2949 or surround the Lazer

    • @freerobux49
      @freerobux49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@jonathanholtlajer2949 that would take an infinite amount of circles tho

    • @jonathanholtlajer2949
      @jonathanholtlajer2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@freerobux49 it would?

  • @shadowslayer205
    @shadowslayer205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    Having played a lot of Portal 2 community maps, I really can relate to this problem.

  • @Th3Rad10D3m0m
    @Th3Rad10D3m0m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zach makes comedy, and solves puzzles, what can’t this man do

  • @Troy665Z
    @Troy665Z ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know you were a learned man as well!

  • @Crow_Rising
    @Crow_Rising 2 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    This feels like the kind of thing that would show up in an anime or sci-fi movie or something. "Why can't my lasers hit you!?" "Well you see..."

    • @alexander1055
      @alexander1055 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      They either explain something so simple anyone could have already guessed it or they make some bullshit up on the spot.
      My favourite was in Naruot when you saw it happening, one Guy explained it and the other Guy had a flashback of doing it.

    • @garlicbreadstick404
      @garlicbreadstick404 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "ONE POINT BLOCKERS, SON!"

    • @neoxus30
      @neoxus30 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jojo)

    • @troyjohnson2137
      @troyjohnson2137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@neoxus30 white album: gently weeps

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

  • @rasmuswhitehorn5240
    @rasmuswhitehorn5240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2346

    Me, a geniuos: Simply place the blocker on the shooter

    • @capy9846
      @capy9846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      lol

    • @undergravitydownforce714
      @undergravitydownforce714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Same here

    • @MASAo7
      @MASAo7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +237

      That's precisely what my girlfriend said the exact second I finished reading the title of what I was watching to her lol
      Mathematics is still fun, but sometimes reality gives you better solutions that a calculation.

    • @pulim-v
      @pulim-v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Specifically inside the gun

    • @thanhnguyen6447
      @thanhnguyen6447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Or on yourself since u r literally a single point
      If where u r absorb every laser u cant get killed :)

  • @AnAverageBox
    @AnAverageBox ปีที่แล้ว

    I found him through the skits and I recognized the voice right away omg

  • @mkv2718
    @mkv2718 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this needs to be a room in the center of a laser tag arena

  • @jasonpowers7914
    @jasonpowers7914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    That card that said “the globe you are staring at” actually caught me off guard

  • @seriousnorbo3838
    @seriousnorbo3838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Me: puts a blocker directly at the shooter *"Sometimes my genius is almost frightening"*

    • @cyan_tree4907
      @cyan_tree4907 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just surround yourself with blockers if you wanna go reversal

    • @aguyontheinternet8436
      @aguyontheinternet8436 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@cyan_tree4907 But then you are trapped. Better to block in the shooter instead. Also, that wouldn't actually work, because although he scaled up the points size so you could see it, all the points are still infinitely small. So you would need infinitely many of them to fully block him in.

    • @ZoneTanium
      @ZoneTanium ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

    • @RedSkyrkw
      @RedSkyrkw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@aguyontheinternet8436 the points would the to be scaled relative you the target (you). So all youd need is a few you sized blockers.

    • @shmev1338
      @shmev1338 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aguyontheinternet8436 you can obviously move the blockers if you were able to put them anywhere in the room

  • @thetoast_007-pr8hq
    @thetoast_007-pr8hq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool. I really liked this.

  • @nyco9933
    @nyco9933 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My thoughts directly told me to just surround the shooter with the blockers and call it a day.

  • @taufiqutomo
    @taufiqutomo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    Before I start watching:
    Judging by the experience of looking at DVD logos, stay in the corners.
    After I watched the video:
    Ah, you mean setting up the blockers, not positioning yourself.

    • @ozargaman6148
      @ozargaman6148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well, now you know not to put a blocker in the corner

    • @maxx8069
      @maxx8069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sit in the corner with 3 blockers and you win

    • @dan-us6nk
      @dan-us6nk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maxx8069 no, these are infinitely small dots not circles. It would take infinity of them to surround either you or the shooter, sorry.

    • @Soken50
      @Soken50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dan-us6nk Sitting in a corner still reduces the number of sides you can get hit from, so it might be a special case where you need less blockers, same with any case where the shooter and target are rotationally symmetric to the center of the room or the target is sitting on an edge or a line of symmetry of the room, I'd imagine.

    • @Soken50
      @Soken50 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @frost bite No, but there is no infinite number of blockers, as the video established, only 16 will block any direction for a general case in a square room, special cases require even less.

  • @rainstorm6707
    @rainstorm6707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    I just realized that the shooter also wouldn’t be able to see you

    • @joshharman7084
      @joshharman7084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Very true

    • @zoobazee6299
      @zoobazee6299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      No. The room is filled with mirrors. Oh shit!

    • @PotatooCake
      @PotatooCake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      one question
      if the whole room is made out of mirrors, then how did we got in

    • @pingo400
      @pingo400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@PotatooCake you obviously walked in when there were only 5 sides and the sixth one was built around you

    • @gacharandom6087
      @gacharandom6087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@PotatooCake
      Because the door is a push door (no handles) that his made out of a mirror on the side of the room (so good luck finding it after your done

  • @robertrealrosso237
    @robertrealrosso237 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video has significantly enhanced my billiards playing skills

  • @decentnoob4316
    @decentnoob4316 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun Fact: If you put the mirror walls in front of the shooter all ways and connect them together the laser will be trapped and can’t get out so you only need 4 - 8

    • @caldeira_a
      @caldeira_a 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      infinite*

  • @twinbladevolt8679
    @twinbladevolt8679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    I’ve played enough laser tag with mirrors to know that as long as you can see them in the mirror you can shoot them. So you would just need enough blocks to block off line of sight. Simplified.

    • @LocalDiscordCatgirl
      @LocalDiscordCatgirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That’s a cool analogy actually.

    • @deathsheir2035
      @deathsheir2035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ever bounced a laser off three mirrors and hit someone?

    • @applelmao1973
      @applelmao1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought about the same thing lol

    • @ZachAttack6089
      @ZachAttack6089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes but if you're in a room where all the walls are mirrors, there's an infinite number of reflections. So there's no way to know how to place a finite number of blockers to break line of sight with every reflection.

    • @twinbladevolt8679
      @twinbladevolt8679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ZachAttack6089 just do a 360 and so long as you can’t see them in the reflection at all no matter where you turn then you aight.

  • @Pixelcraftian
    @Pixelcraftian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +740

    I know nothing about math so all of this sounded like magic but I felt like I learnt something so I have that going for me. Cool video 😎

    • @Imaiddd
      @Imaiddd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Math sounds like magic untill you need to slove it yourself

    • @Wenmo85
      @Wenmo85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are everywhere

    • @gizer-bs1476
      @gizer-bs1476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That feeling is “almost understanding the solution to the problem you can’t solve it yourself”

    • @AstronomicalPowerLevel
      @AstronomicalPowerLevel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just don't smoke

    • @NinEris
      @NinEris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just tapped the blocker over the laser.

  • @BeanieCat136
    @BeanieCat136 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video was actually very edtucational

  • @TheAustralianIdiot
    @TheAustralianIdiot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This situation is so normal I’m starting to hate it but it does make me feel smart

  • @incription
    @incription 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    "We'll work up to infinity" I don't know man, I haven't got all day, or the lifetime of the universe for that matter

    • @zypper7213
      @zypper7213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The death of the universe will happen in a finite, countable number of years, so since they're going over an infinite, uncountable amount of possible mirror-room scenarios, this video should still be playing quintillions of years after all life forms are long gone
      kinda suspicious that it's only 11 minutes then /j

    • @abdhulhackul2620
      @abdhulhackul2620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zypper7213 whooosh

    • @abdhulhackul2620
      @abdhulhackul2620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @un ko double whooosh

    • @Vairoon
      @Vairoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      bruh the universe will like die in 2021 (btw after 2020 dec 31 59:59 it will be 2020 dec 31 60:00).

  • @Fadexpl
    @Fadexpl ปีที่แล้ว +945

    That is an incredible puzzle. At first I was convinced the answer would have to be uncountably infinite, then after seeing the first step of the proof I thought it would be countably infinite, as we can represent each possibility on a NxN grid. And then the pattern starts repeating, very cool stuff!

    • @savant_fou9483
      @savant_fou9483 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Me: Eight to surround the target

    • @ighao6032
      @ighao6032 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had exactly the same line of thought! this problem is fascinating

    • @megaparsec4
      @megaparsec4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@savant_fou9483 You actually only need 6 if you position them right. You arrange the circles in a hexagon instead of a square.

    • @proot.
      @proot. ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@megaparsec4 Those aren't circles, but points with zero width. He could just shoot the laser between any two of the six.

    • @megaparsec4
      @megaparsec4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@proot. Thanks for pointing that out. I was going off of the idea that they were like how they were represented in the video graphics, but after watching the video again I realize that he mentions that a couple of times.

  • @thebaseballcow2024
    @thebaseballcow2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “ The extremely relatable situation”
    Yea ok I didn’t know that

  • @0xhyyy
    @0xhyyy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now after watching this video im wondering how his aim is so good

  • @bolt7
    @bolt7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    It'd be interesting to do this in real life. Have a room with mirror walls, floors, and ceiling.
    Add a small light source, and 16 pillars a bit thicker than the light source covered in vantablack, black 3.0, or another really dark substance.
    Mark a very specific place where someone can stand (in dark clothing), close one eye, and see no light.
    It would be so cool opening the other eye (or just moving a bit) and seeing the light.
    The only flaw I see is how flat we can make mirrors, but it seems doable.

    • @zedantXiang
      @zedantXiang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also the fact that light becomes fainter

    • @ConnorLinley
      @ConnorLinley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cool idea. I could totally see something like this being done at a science/ discovery museum. A cool practical demonstration of math.

    • @vadiks20032
      @vadiks20032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you know, one day you might appear in the room with 3 pathways. and you'll be standing in the exact right spot. trying to get some wifi. and you'll be wondernig "why can't i catch a wifi in that damn place?"

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    This is so interesting. Math used like this expands the mind I believe.

    • @520_metal
      @520_metal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cringe

    • @DanielFenandes
      @DanielFenandes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's a mind ?

    • @xNothing2Lose
      @xNothing2Lose 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We re junkies....

    • @wyattwilcox9890
      @wyattwilcox9890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@520_metal image saying cringe to someone that probably actually watched the whole video.

    • @haichah
      @haichah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@520_metal how is this cringe?

  • @yyoshman
    @yyoshman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    someone needs to make this into a game

  • @user-zc8jx3rl1b
    @user-zc8jx3rl1b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is cool stuff.
    If you had controlled force field.
    You could save a bunch of energy with only 16 points instead of a sphere.

  • @Zeyn810
    @Zeyn810 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man don't we all experience a time in life where we're in a perfect room of mirrors with an enemy that's frozen in place and shoots lasers as we get only a limited amount of blockers

  • @truejustice1827
    @truejustice1827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    You're probably not reading this, but could you also do it for 3 dimentional space ?

    • @PHILTente
      @PHILTente 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      pretty sure its just 64 points consturcted in the same way then bc the maths dont change significantly by adding more dimensions to reflect in. same with 256 points in 4 dim and so on

    • @Tuzszo
      @Tuzszo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@PHILTente So if I'm understanding correctly, in N-dimensional space you need exactly 4^N blockers to block all sightlines if N > 1?

    • @MurriciTerceiro
      @MurriciTerceiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Tuzszo on a 1-dimensional space you just need 1 blocker
      edit: wtf, i'm dumb, yes, if N > 1.

    • @satyu131089
      @satyu131089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PHILTente the finiteness of the answer is clear, but it's not clear how the number of available paths grows as the number of dimensions grows. In 1d it's 1 point, in 2d it's 16 points. So the pattern is not really clear.

    • @deathxunnat4693
      @deathxunnat4693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Be a gigachad and do it for 26 dimensions

  • @AkeemKaleeb
    @AkeemKaleeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    That was a major call-out to me staring at the globe lol

  • @shaiyan2
    @shaiyan2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Let’s start at 4, and we’ll work up to infinity.”

  • @Legohunter-uv1wc
    @Legohunter-uv1wc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I would do is just go into the corner and set up like 4 blockers really close to me until enough is needed to block the whole way

    • @caldeira_a
      @caldeira_a 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that is infinite blockers

  • @yeehawtaw2134
    @yeehawtaw2134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    1:32 I was just thinking "woah what's that cool spinning thing in the background" and then the i-card appeared

    • @squishcat4539
      @squishcat4539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same here

    • @jameskristian3617
      @jameskristian3617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao

    • @rolfu491
      @rolfu491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I wasn't even listening and then I saw that I card and I was like wtf how does he know

    • @luizguipro4855
      @luizguipro4855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

    • @Pihsrosnec
      @Pihsrosnec 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was confused when that popped up since the lecture immediately covered the orb so I didn't know what it was referring to

  • @RiskierGoose340
    @RiskierGoose340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    Me: just surrounds myself with blockers that slightly overlap

    • @koshakvesely8186
      @koshakvesely8186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Blocker is a point

    • @koshakvesely8186
      @koshakvesely8186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      so you need infinite blockers

    • @RiskierGoose340
      @RiskierGoose340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@koshakvesely8186 but there isnt anything said about a point having a specific size

    • @koshakvesely8186
      @koshakvesely8186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@RiskierGoose340 A point is an idealized, primitive notion. It does not have any physical size

    • @RiskierGoose340
      @RiskierGoose340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@koshakvesely8186 ok then, u win this time

  • @dominicsondrini3099
    @dominicsondrini3099 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So my theory is that if the floor and ceiling were also mirrors you would need 36 blocker points if you were the laser victim and a ton of windex if you were the laser-assassin

  • @MJosh2021
    @MJosh2021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i dont know why this got me so hard, but at the start when the little i pops up saying "the globe your staring at" is so god dam funny cus i was indeed staring at the globe

  • @snowjix
    @snowjix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    Now i finally see the purpose of Raytracing, somebody needs to whip out their RTX and make this into a simulation.

    • @SwiftDustStorm
      @SwiftDustStorm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      THIS IS SUCH A GOOD COMPUTER SCIENCE PROJECT. It will be hard to do this though, because of rounding errors...

    • @Alan-ek3ko
      @Alan-ek3ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SwiftDustStorm oh and the fact that rtx is expensive as hell

    • @SwiftDustStorm
      @SwiftDustStorm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Alan-ek3ko yeah today it is because of upselling but I’m lucky I already have one :)

    • @Alan-ek3ko
      @Alan-ek3ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SwiftDustStorm oh, nice!

    • @ivan-nm1xn
      @ivan-nm1xn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can see that simulation here: th-cam.com/video/Lnp46-qj5cE/w-d-xo.html
      Also, I suggest you checkout his channel. It's full of gems like this one. :)

  • @julianrosenfeld7177
    @julianrosenfeld7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    What would happen in different shaped rooms? (Triangle, hexagon...)
    Perhaps even 3 dimensional rooms, like say a cube, I wonder what you would get as an answer then!

    • @macmarc6661
      @macmarc6661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also want to know

    • @RussellSubedi
      @RussellSubedi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      For a cube, I think it's simple. Just go up to 4x4x4=64 dots. For a triangle though, I'm guessing 9 dots (as it would repeat after 3 iterations) making 27 for a tetrahedral room.
      Edit: I just thought of it as a tiling problem, which might not have worked. If someone sees a problem with this, an explanation would be appreciated.

    • @apexbrachydios5385
      @apexbrachydios5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In a cube i would assume it would be 64 blockers

    • @herobrine1847
      @herobrine1847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Or pentagons, which cannot be proven geometrically by tiling like the square, triangle, and hexagon

    • @LeoStaley
      @LeoStaley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@herobrine1847 ooh, that would be an interesting puzzle. You can tile the plane with pentagonal symmetry but it is aperiodic, so I would guess that for a pentagon, you would need infinite blockers.

  • @miabee6267
    @miabee6267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Counter solutions: put the blocker on top of the attackers head so that their dead and can’t shoot you anymore

  • @Froggoohh
    @Froggoohh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:38 i love how he knew i was staring at the globe lol

  • @Abnormal_000
    @Abnormal_000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    0:06 ah yes, very relatable

  • @TheSaxRunner05
    @TheSaxRunner05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love how “off the wall” these videos are

  • @Otherversian
    @Otherversian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Gotta say, knowing Zach only from his skits and not checking the channel name when clicking the video, seeing him pop up was an absolute shock lmao

  • @LarryPanozzo
    @LarryPanozzo ปีที่แล้ว

    Horza really could have used this in the Temple of Light.
    Saving this in case I ever find myself battling monks armed with laser guns.

  • @Chasawpro
    @Chasawpro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +710

    Can’t I just stand in a corner and put like 3 blockers together to completely block the laser

    • @dablux3892
      @dablux3892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      Assuming you are an infinitely small point, you would only need one, since the laser can never naturally reflect into the corner, only get infinitely closer to it.

    • @randomperson1844
      @randomperson1844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Or just surround yourself with 8 without even moving

    • @Pihsrosnec
      @Pihsrosnec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@randomperson1844 you mean surround yourself with infinite points?

    • @randomperson1844
      @randomperson1844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Pihsrosnec imagine you are a square
      You surround yourself in 8 squares
      You are protected from all sides

    • @pittyconor2489
      @pittyconor2489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The blocker, you are infinetly small. And the laser is super precise

  • @AMTunLimited
    @AMTunLimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    This is actually very similar to a coding interview I got from Google! The difference was that the laser did lose energy and you had to count all of the ways the laser hit the target, and the shooter was a target. I still landed on the reflection strategy, tho.
    First instinct: countably infinite, were gonna talk about Ulam's spiral and counting rational fractions

    • @fakharyarkhan5848
      @fakharyarkhan5848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did they expect you to solve that one on the spot?

    • @AMTunLimited
      @AMTunLimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@fakharyarkhan5848 No, it was an online coding challenge thing; I think I had a day to solve it?

    • @fakharyarkhan5848
      @fakharyarkhan5848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AMTunLimited oh ok that's more fair. That sounds like a pretty cool variation of the problem then.

    • @AMTunLimited
      @AMTunLimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@fakharyarkhan5848 Yeah, for those worried at home Google interview questions are nowhere NEAR this wild, and they make it a point to try and not rely on "aha" moments

    • @jadespy399
      @jadespy399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is there any way for you to link the problem? I'm curious to see what the correct answers are because I'm sure I must be missing something, but it seems to me that if it loses, say, 10% of its outset energy that means 10 reflections which I'm fairly sure means 4^10 possibilities.

  • @greninja2525
    @greninja2525 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This immediately brought to mind the bouncing dvd