He said it best, the tank is so notorious it has a fear factor. Whenever I'm in a T6 or T7 and I see a BZ anywhere on the map, I try to do anything to be at the furthest possible distance away from it. The closer you are to it, the more likely it will hit you and you'll be sitting in the garage and using some really dirty S, X, F and even N-tier slurs to describe the developers who designed this and the management who approved its release. It singlehandedly ruined T6, T7 and T8 matchmaking for years. And WG will never have the balls to slightly hurt their whales and nerf it.
@@soldier22881 I call all other tanks pay for advantage, they're better, but not godlike. Meanwhile BZ-176 is in a league of its own, it makes even tomatoes perform like average players and unicums perform like super unicums
This is great example that you don't have to be a unicum to have a good game. Basically noone punished him for 72873 mistakes he did, and he still managed to have a epic game. Epic.
Agree, i am an unicum and i have never had games like this. Every recent epic kolobanov potential i had was stolen from me by the last remaining enemy, just because they were lucky and i was not.
This tank is absolutely diabolic, WG really made a giant middle finger to the community when they released thing about a year and a half ago (they also tried to do so last Christmas, it was leaked and they rapidly modified this in the last minute) 🖕🖕
@@youtubiak EBR 75 FL 10 was (technically) nerfed - iirc it had the boost mechanic (separate but not unlike the BZ boosts) until the tech tree was officially released in Update 1.4, which removed its boost.
The tank is broken with that much armor and the big alpha. But the battle should have been over when enemy IS was capping. There is always a dumb player thinking "I'm going to get some more xp by getting damage"
These kind of people don't understand that winning gives you at least x2 more xp than losing *AND DRAWING.* I hate people who just want useless draws. It's straight up useless. Like at least if you lose the enemy team gets more xp. So it's still a win for the playerbase to progress faster together.
Ye because game does not give any benefits to the player who captures the base. Like you receive worse stats and crying chat. I've captured a base couple of times and got 100 xp. I mean I made my team WIN the game and got a kaka in return.
unfortunately they cant change a premium tank, they did with the super pershing 10 years ago, ended up in the american court. they lost a lot of money because of it. It is not viable to do so for them.
First it's a business and they NEED to make money to stay in business! You would be the first one crying if they decided to shut down saying again, "WG dont care about players" because they shut down. Second if all they cared about was money they would sell the BZ 176 the EBR 75 (FL10) and the 105 leFH1882 again for a high price. People would buy them making a PROFIT for WG and it would bring balance to the game because there would be more of them in battles creating a balance.
All those BZ players in the comments defending their precious paid victories XD. In the past, somehow WG was also selling premium tanks, but those were almost regular tech tree tanks (very often even worse) with preferential mm.... It was possible to earn cash in a pretty much non-destructive way, but WG got too greedy... And now they are slowly digging themselves a golden "scrooge mcduck treasury" burial grounds. Cause of death: drowned in money. It is already happening. WOT population is dwindling. It is not the same what it was. Soon the only players that will be left in the game will be your typical "BZ" or P2W type of player. So what they will do if all of the sudden everyone will have same paid advantage ? They will leave too. GG. End of story. WG knows this, as they are already developing another tank game. They just want to milk all of the whales that are still playing while they still they can.
The best way to keep everyone happy with this tank is to just buff it into tier 9 just give it 200 more hp and keep its armor and gun the same and bam its balanced
@@arif11011 I'll grant you BZ-176 has some good weakspots. But lets be honest, we also call Obj 279e's "weakspots" on the turret, but when a "weakspot" is just 2 pixels large, the meaning of the word loses its grace. While this is not necessarily the case for BZ-176, trying to hit something because RNG can screw you right back still IS a thing.
@@arif11011 i will say one big issue though is most things trying to hit weak spots on a BZ-176 have 0 armor and so the BZ just has to hit them anywhere whereas everyone has to aim against the BZ
This tank had a part to play in why I quit playing WoT. They didn't "sell" this tank. They put it in lootboxes and made you gamble for it. I did and lost. Got 3 other crappy tanks for my $50 instead. So everytime I got exploded by one of them or just couldn't pen one with gold, it reminded me how much i truly hate wargaming. I'm also a very average player (too impatient), so I don't have a bunch of incentive to keep playing. 5 years was enough. Still love watching skill though.
@@jrok4312 It's the imbalance that bothers me. I didn't know that tank was op until after I had spent my money. I just wanted a tank with rocket boosters at the time. Then the realization that people that spent less money than me got a better tank bothered me. We all want good tanks, just not so op that people hate you for playing it.
Well played, brother It's a broken tank, for sure, but it takes a superb player to show just how broken it can really be like that Anyone saying 'it was because the the tank is broken', well, that's like saying astronauts have a rocket so going to the moon isn't all that impressive Really impressive stuff!
yep they were typical greedy seagulls that dont like to cap, instead they waste time chasing last tanks. hate those players they are the worst and my teams always lose to them so i get hunted by cowards with no skill. but unlike bz they always charge at same time.
they could always nerf premiums but they dont, the devs love creating casino toxic game, they catter to the worst groups imaginable, ffs they added artillery to a tank game! troll devs. glad i quit this god awful game
They have every right to nerf any tank or even delete it including the premiums... have you ever read the EULA (License agreement)? The simple reason they are not nerfing it is... cause they are a greedy money grab company... if they nerf a premium today... next time fools will nut rush to buy a broken tank when they release one... simple.
Its interesting how all the Steamers/TH-camrs say „it should never be sold again“ whenever all of them have and play it from time to time. No one requests a nerf or delete (refund) of this Tank
this tank had me interested in the rocket line because they were all supposed to have a derp option but WG scrapped it and gave the line an average gun but let the bz176 keep its super derp. frankly WG should have changed the premium gun to the gun they replaced the chinese rocket ones to for balance. instead they let this thing stay in the game :/ ive got it but its just ridiculous
@@damafratzen and its premium HE has more pen than the type 4/5 heavy derp premium. its frankly absurd. edit: premium HE rounds should not have more pen than ap
I think WG should've kept the derp option and actually made it a true dwerp, and not a Deathstar-like HESH-user in disguise. the 650 AP round is workable since it has low pen. The 800 HE(SH) round should've been a 50/60 pen value. and reduce its armor of the front turret a bit AND reduce its turret rotation. The fact this thing swings it's turret around as fast as a light tank (preverbially speaking) is absolute nonsense.
Yea, but atleast the tech tree variants dont have inpenetrable armor, so for them, they would have been more fair, look at the tier 8 BZ-166 that thing has huge cupolas. But the premium, nope, hit my 2mm cupole while I use my 10° of gun depression and wiggle around. Why do the BZ line even have so much gun depression, the chinese tanks are known for very bad gun depression. Makes no sense.
If WG don't want to nerf this tank, at least remove it from Tier 6 and 7 battles, put it against Tier 8, 9 and 10 only. After this they can sell the tank again or whatever! Thanks Skill the index page is very nice!
I remember when this tank came out, I had just finished my wot 'phase' so I didn't buy it because I didn't know when I'd return, returned this past Christmas and have been playing since, I damn regret not getting this tank, I know it probably gets all sorts of focus in games and is probably less fun to play these days, but I wanna feel this power just one time
Only the SU-100 hit him once with premium ammo ... no one is shooting him with gold. He was very lucky. Remember the old days where Defender was broken or T-59? And WG told us, they would never sale this tanks again ... and now? I think in 1 or 2 years they will sell the BZ176 aswell. If WG needs money, they will do this.
Which also sucks cause new players like me can’t get it and then people with 10k hrs in the game main it and there is nothing I can do as a tier 6 leveling tanks.
why are you even playing this pay tow in game in the first place? its a terrible game, community is toxic and the game is pay to win and incredibly unbalanced.
They can nerf it they just choose not to. The tank was part of loot boxes which in itself is a gamble to what you get. There is no price on this tank therefore they can do what they like
hmm, if they nerfed it, would they get more backlash or more positive feedback 🧐, probably 50/50 the ones who have that tank would complain, and the rest would be happy.
Yes but y'all realize this game is 1 in 1million in other games versus higher tiers which is 90 procent of times you can't eaven pen half of your shots
Here's a wild theory. I'm not a BZ-176 or ANY shady sh** advocate, but... What if all these WoT youtubers /streamers are all saying that this tank (BZ-176) is OP and should not ever be sold again. Only for Wargaming to sell it at a super premium price and then have insane sales from that because of everyone saying how this tank is broken, the "fear of missing out" so to say... In the hands of a good player any tank can be viewed as OP. Ofcourse the tank is powerful, you might even say OP, but if you give it to a "tourist" its just another tank.
Sure Tanks is straight up unfair vs. tier VI but, the enemeys are special and threw it away. Would say you could have a battle like this even better with a T 56 with those enemys.
Skoda is also quite a broken tank so that still doesn't really absolve the issue at hand. The basic problem is that unlike a KV-2, these tanks have equal (or marginally better) alpha dmg, either directly or through burst while having a quite heavily armored tank. Facing inexperienced or 'bad' player is no excuse for a tank to simply be broken based on its stats alone.
@@skorpion7132 Bad Players get rekt against every Tank. Good Players will Always Farm. Thats all i saw Here. I Take a good Player in a patton59 ober a Bad Player nicht in bz everytime.
@@janb.6434 Oh really, I played 40+ games today and faced many BZs and because I hate those tanks I always looked up the stats, they almost always were top of the team dmg wise and are below 50% winrate players many of them at 48%.
@@janb.6434 And what kinda point is that? So tanks like the Chieftain are not OP because bad players die in them.... (AND YES, BAD PLAYERS COULD BUY THAT THING WITH BONDS BACK THEN SO DONT SAY YOU NEED TO BE A PRO TO HAVE ONE)
you are my *Tank Daddy* , Thank you so much for your website but also the community that they support you so you can support us, so Shout out to Skill and everyone that supports him! Big Love
I was on my break when they sold this tank in the boxes, but i'm already predicting that in this year's boxes there will be a tier 8 premium medium tank with a 130mm gun, 3 shot magazine, ridiculous turret armor and a siege mode.
yep i also like to cap instead of wasting 2-5 minutes chasing a light or driving across the map just to take out 2-5 last tanks. unfortunently too many people greedy seagull and afraid to 1v1 like men so they waste time chasing last tanks or hunting to get that 1 extra credit instead of capping and making more money finishing the match on time.
those players were most likely the unskilled kill hungry seagulls that my teams like to lose against, they dont cap and theres always that one troll that keeps stepping on and off cap while his teamates hunt you down instead of ending the game and capping. hate those kind of players and i cant believe im saying this im glad the bz won against those greedy cowardly seagull type players
I love this tank, but it is so rare to get a Tier 6 match with it. It's almost always a Tier 9 or 10 match. These seal clubbing games don't happen that often.
This tank shouldnt be in the game, on the other hand this game was phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal... This player knows what he is doing, kudos mate!
@@skorpion7132 the whole line was to have alternative high calibre HE guns like the BZ-176. For example; BZ-75 was to have an alternative 180mm gun, a 1800 dmg round with 75mm pen and a 1050 damage round with 225mm pen. This was all canned after the BZ-176 showed it would ruin the game.
This is a real highlight about the real meaning of broken. U can go "way too risky than necessary", U can be "very impatient", U don't need to care about "base defense", U can perform a "nice preaim" with growing bloom, from 400m+, and have a success. U can even "go through the middle of the field in a way..." And thats it. U don't need to be focused, U don't need to play precise, U don't need to do extraordinary tactical decisions to thatGreat success, honorable end stats, proud gamer. I need to defend A44 player for a real example. Yeah he was definitely not a Super Unicum, but hey... What did U expect from a Tier7 guy, who didn't even unlock the top gun of the A44? And he at least knew what a circle of death means, and tried that with a fkin Bonus. Now that was brave if something... He just shot standard rounds on a middle T7 gun means in this case 125 mm penetration. Not much place where U can shoot at a 176 with this, and not much angle U will succeed even from the side (Btw. it has a whopping 156 mm pen with gold in tier7 so...), but at least distraction... But what was the other option, while 176 was in a ditch and snapshotting all the incoming teammates on open field one by one?
First of all the enemy team are bunch of bots rushing to die 1 by 1 second thing WG need to sell more of this tank to even the game like you see in this game bz was only on one side
What is the fuss about. I have this tank and I don't play it and I didn't see that many of them on random and I never had a game when this thing dominated.
I 200% disagree, the only people who say the BZ-176 should never be sold again, already own one. Wargaming is screwing over everyone who doesn't have one and it's literally costing them more players than if they just sold the tank. The tank can't be un-done, time to let everyone else have a shot at owning one.
"Never sell it again" is the most ridiculous idea. When you have a game changer tank you have 3 options. 1) you nerf it (not the one I prefer) 2) you witdraw it from the game (like they did with WTE100) 3) You sell it daily so anyone can buy it. Never sell it again just gives a HUGE advandage to those they've already have it
Thankfully YOU don't get to decide anything, there's no shortage of players who would love to own a BZ, the only people who say it should never be sold again ALREADY OWN ONE.
It was both, really Like Skill said, even against truly stupid enemies (which these weren't), the IS6 could never have done anything like that Or the T34. Or the Renegade. Or any other tank They did go at him one at a time though, and gave him time to reload, which was not good team play But still. Any other tank would have been dead there really quick
This is a classic case of incompetent players being incompetent. Then these same losers and others will see this video and cry about the BZ instead of realizing the obvious incompetence of this team of clowns. Is the BZ a strong tank? Yes, but it is beatable, I've soloed quite a few. You have to be smart when attacking a BZ and these people clearly weren't.
@@rodneymercado7195 oh boohoo its really just skill, yeah man, fall back to that when you can't offer any reasonable argument on how tier 6/7s can fight that tank "solo"
and this game is exactly why I ignore chat with the "no cap kill all" nonsense.... its always better to just take the win. How to fix the BZ: Put it up to tier 9, increase shell pen and bump up the hp... fixed..
They need to put up the T8 EBR for sale again, I am pissed as a tank collector that I took a break when they had it up for sale in 2020....and they keep teasing it on splash wallpapers during game loading
WG should actually start nerfing premium tanks (since players are not buying ownership, but they only buy access to use them), or if not, most OP tanks should be for bonds. P2W is actually costing WG a lot of players. Too many players left and too many are leaving. It is a very short sighted approach that in the longer run will lead to death of WOT. The problem is not just BZ, but BZ is "just another" tank in the series. Typ 59. E25. Progetto. EBR. Chrysler. Defender.... There were many broken tanks in the past, but now, I don't even know how WG would have to buff every single other tier 8 & 7 tank, so that they would not nerf "premium" tank. I wish they actually started making tanks with preferential mm, as those are weaker than tech tree ones, offer a decent game & income and are not toxic & harmful for the game balance. Very often, when I see BZ or a platoon of BZ, I just know it is not going to be a good game, so I try to find deep water or cliff, so I can go back to garage faster & pick another tank, so that hopefully I could get a decent game. This is what WG has done. BZ is just too toxic for me.
@@arif11011 You know what ? I have more respect towards tier 5 premium arty players than BZ players. I just don't want to play with them (both with them and against them) and I generally don't want to have anything to do wit them. Generally, if I see that I may have a chance to have a nice game, when there is a BZ on my or in enemy team, I just try to make sure that I will go to the part of the map where there is no BZ. If BZ is on enemy team, I will wait a bit till some one spots it & then go where I won't fighting it. It works both ways, so if there is a BZ on my team, I will always go elsewhere so I won't be even supporting my teammate... cuz they don't need me anyway, remember ? They bought outrageous P2W stuff, so they will win on their own. By choosing BZ, not only they show a middle finger towards EVERYBODY in the match (both enemy & their team), but also they support the P2W stuff in WOT, so why should I support such team mates ? And if they are on enemy team, like I have said - I will ignore them, or if there is no way to ignore them I won't be the source of fun for them. Also, speaking of "sabotage your team"... how long do you play WOT ? Do you still believe that team matters ? WG tough me not to care if the game is won or lost. It is all RNG. They even admitted it. That mm is designed to "control" player's win ration and keep it in 49 - 50%. Team is an illusion. Especially if you have a mission to do & you have to fight your own team to meet the conditions.
@@Tommy_The_Gun dude just stop playing the game, you clearly believe that you can do nothing to help your team so all you do is sabotage it. That only helps the enemy. And yes i believe the team matters, when you get a good team with players who know what they are doing, you win. If you get noobs and new players who dont even know where a BZ's weakspots are then of course youll lose. I'm just an average player but ive carried my fair share of games where me and my teammates prevented a loss. You should try it, instead of asking why you should support your teammates
@@arif11011 I can not count how many times I carried the game too. I have like 32K battles & started playing in 2012. Carries did not happened often. Very rarely. But what does it matter now ? Right now it is just an old memory. A memory, cuz nowadays, the trend is if you are not a high-level p2w player (who buys every single loot box x 500), you won't be having all those "carries" any more. It just hurts me to see what has become of this game. Btw. "BZ's weakspots" 🤔 ?!... I mean it has 2-3 pixels of height of lower plate and 1 pixel of commander's hatch. G. That for sure is a weakspot... XD Anyway, you are right about one thing - I should stop playing WOT... just like all my friends who could not stand drastically growing level of P2W in WOT. I am the last of our bunch who is still playing, but well... it is about to change. A shame cuz more & more players are leaving... So um.... goodbye I guess.... oh and one more thing... for all of those BZ owners.... ekhem... (clears throat): "Good buy" .
I sold mine when I cleaned out my garage. I basically play 2 or 3 tanks every now and then (I try to quit but can't...) I think I own 10 max tanks now.
I actually don’t mind the idea of making it a tier 9 and adjusting it for that. The fact they haven’t adjusted this tank in any way at all since release is astounding. Even if WG is worried about pissing off the people who have it they are so few in comparison to how many are effected by it in game. I’ve even seen people commenting that they have it but don’t play it because they feel it ruins it for others. It’s rather disrespectful by WG honestly.
BZ is not op, its toxic. It is the final bully. Bad against tier 9 and 10, invencible against tier 6 and 7. Makes the borasque balanced when you are in a tier 6 tank.
First let me say, I 100% agree with WG not nerfing or buffing premium tanks! I've bought a lot of tanks and I would uninstall if they started nerfing or buffing tanks I paid for with set specs! Saying that, they need to sell not only the BZ 176 but the EBR 75 (FL10) and 105 leFH1882 again. Why do I say that? Selling these tanks again gives more players especially those that joined after they were sold to buy these tanks. Buying these tanks would create more balance because there would be more of these OP tanks in battles. Then you wouldn't see them in battle as much because players know they can't just dominate due to the same tanks being in battles.
What are you on about, there’s barely any of them in games and most of the time they suck. I seriously don’t get how yall get mad over this tank, the amount of times I have 1v1 these tanks with my skorpion and won is astounding. Skill issue.
@@PickleGobbler9000 It really is just whining form weirdos. yes the tank is OP, but there are not that many of them left in the MM. Not enough to quit the gamw over at least.
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He said it best, the tank is so notorious it has a fear factor. Whenever I'm in a T6 or T7 and I see a BZ anywhere on the map, I try to do anything to be at the furthest possible distance away from it. The closer you are to it, the more likely it will hit you and you'll be sitting in the garage and using some really dirty S, X, F and even N-tier slurs to describe the developers who designed this and the management who approved its release.
It singlehandedly ruined T6, T7 and T8 matchmaking for years. And WG will never have the balls to slightly hurt their whales and nerf it.
@@Memsandro are you surprised though? they have been releasing pay to win tanks since type 59 and super pershing, this is nothing new
@@soldier22881 I call all other tanks pay for advantage, they're better, but not godlike. Meanwhile BZ-176 is in a league of its own, it makes even tomatoes perform like average players and unicums perform like super unicums
@@Memsandro only if you play it seriously mines winrate is almost 10 percent lower than the average i play it for fun 80 percent of the time
They should buff this tank in my opinion, to low alpha damage
They cant!!!
@@NicoGranate23 Why not? Since the tank has never been on sale, the refund will not ruin their budget.
@@XtreeM_FaiL This is a premium tank that once sold cannot be taken out of the game and cannot be made worse, it is not possible.
@@NicoGranate23 What was the price of the tank? Who said premiums can not be nerfed or removed?
@@NicoGranate23premiums can be nerfed. If u red the ToS or smth u can see it
This is great example that you don't have to be a unicum to have a good game. Basically noone punished him for 72873 mistakes he did, and he still managed to have a epic game. Epic.
Agree, i am an unicum and i have never had games like this. Every recent epic kolobanov potential i had was stolen from me by the last remaining enemy, just because they were lucky and i was not.
@@danibojko3844I lost my 1v6 opportunity to a lowroll and ran out of ammo...
having an overpowered real money tank also helped
This tank is absolutely diabolic, WG really made a giant middle finger to the community when they released thing about a year and a half ago (they also tried to do so last Christmas, it was leaked and they rapidly modified this in the last minute) 🖕🖕
Not really. Remember the Chrysler GF? It was invincible, until Wag nerfed it's upper turret, and buffed premiums.
I am so glad I don't play this shit game anymore.
@@Mthammere2010 No premium tank was nerfed since Super Pershing. Chrysler is still invincible against 220mm pen guns. You have to load gold.
@@Mthammere2010 chrysler wasn't nerfed. It was called the gold tank because people need to spam gold to pen the tank and use gold to pen other tank.
@@youtubiak EBR 75 FL 10 was (technically) nerfed - iirc it had the boost mechanic (separate but not unlike the BZ boosts) until the tech tree was officially released in Update 1.4, which removed its boost.
The tank is broken with that much armor and the big alpha. But the battle should have been over when enemy IS was capping. There is always a dumb player thinking "I'm going to get some more xp by getting damage"
These kind of people don't understand that winning gives you at least x2 more xp than losing *AND DRAWING.*
I hate people who just want useless draws. It's straight up useless. Like at least if you lose the enemy team gets more xp. So it's still a win for the playerbase to progress faster together.
Ye because game does not give any benefits to the player who captures the base. Like you receive worse stats and crying chat. I've captured a base couple of times and got 100 xp. I mean I made my team WIN the game and got a kaka in return.
This tank should have nerfed MM: never meet tier7 and below.
Yea...like half the premiums nowadays should have 0 / +2 MM...
Cuz' allowing 1357s and E25s against tier 5s is also just PURE JOKE...
@@laszlopap8271 Ja, de azokat legalább frontból belövöd még normál lőszerrel is, ezt a BZ-t arannyal se lövöd be egy tier6-os tankkal se.
*Never meet tier8 or higher
unfortunately they cant change a premium tank, they did with the super pershing 10 years ago, ended up in the american court. they lost a lot of money because of it. It is not viable to do so for them.
@@VanguardDetonados this was proven incorrect, there were no lawsuits. you agree in the Eula that anything you buy is subject to change as well so
WG dont care about players, they care only about money nowdays
Is WG a charity? Their only goal is to make a profit. And that's good because they will only profit if they attract and keep players.
@@rmw00 right? I am tired of those crying babies ...wtf? its company, its a business ! nothing else.
First it's a business and they NEED to make money to stay in business! You would be the first one crying if they decided to shut down saying again, "WG dont care about players" because they shut down. Second if all they cared about was money they would sell the BZ 176 the EBR 75 (FL10) and the 105 leFH1882 again for a high price. People would buy them making a PROFIT for WG and it would bring balance to the game because there would be more of them in battles creating a balance.
All those BZ players in the comments defending their precious paid victories XD.
In the past, somehow WG was also selling premium tanks, but those were almost regular tech tree tanks (very often even worse) with preferential mm.... It was possible to earn cash in a pretty much non-destructive way, but WG got too greedy... And now they are slowly digging themselves a golden "scrooge mcduck treasury" burial grounds. Cause of death: drowned in money. It is already happening. WOT population is dwindling. It is not the same what it was. Soon the only players that will be left in the game will be your typical "BZ" or P2W type of player. So what they will do if all of the sudden everyone will have same paid advantage ? They will leave too. GG. End of story. WG knows this, as they are already developing another tank game. They just want to milk all of the whales that are still playing while they still they can.
@@Tommy_The_Gun I do not own one :'(
The best way to keep everyone happy with this tank is to just buff it into tier 9 just give it 200 more hp and keep its armor and gun the same and bam its balanced
And more AP Pen. Done.
Or that instead of nerving it thats a good idea and no one could cry because they would had a t9 prem then .
Still stronger than the tier 9 thech tree BZ.
They shouldn't be able allowed to change it.. people paid for it.. all they can do is silently nerf it :) either way... it`s hard to play with... :D
@MrTheScorpions well considering they change premiums on console quite often and we don't 0 compensation from WG
No 14kills buff pls!
Big kudos to the skill and the developers who are working hard on the index. Impressive work!!!
Or far more likely scenario wg pumps the shit out of the powercreep till this tank ends up being average
and the armour is ridiculous. two tanks that I bounce no matter where I shoot, this one and iron arnie. gold or not! love you man
learn to aim then, it has 3 weak spots at top and lower plate, hello?
Exactly its always ppl who dont bother to learn about its weak spots who complain about it the most@@Evro_X
176 is easy to pen on the weak spot, my problem is Iron arnie and T-832, very small weak spots with impenetrable turrets
@@arif11011 I'll grant you BZ-176 has some good weakspots. But lets be honest, we also call Obj 279e's "weakspots" on the turret, but when a "weakspot" is just 2 pixels large, the meaning of the word loses its grace.
While this is not necessarily the case for BZ-176, trying to hit something because RNG can screw you right back still IS a thing.
@@arif11011 i will say one big issue though is most things trying to hit weak spots on a BZ-176 have 0 armor and so the BZ just has to hit them anywhere whereas everyone has to aim against the BZ
This tank had a part to play in why I quit playing WoT. They didn't "sell" this tank. They put it in lootboxes and made you gamble for it. I did and lost. Got 3 other crappy tanks for my $50 instead. So everytime I got exploded by one of them or just couldn't pen one with gold, it reminded me how much i truly hate wargaming. I'm also a very average player (too impatient), so I don't have a bunch of incentive to keep playing. 5 years was enough. Still love watching skill though.
Soooo if you had gotten the tank all would be ok? lol
@@jrok4312 It's the imbalance that bothers me. I didn't know that tank was op until after I had spent my money. I just wanted a tank with rocket boosters at the time. Then the realization that people that spent less money than me got a better tank bothered me. We all want good tanks, just not so op that people hate you for playing it.
nah, this tank throw the skill factor out the window
They had to come every one together …not 1 x 1
DonEMU here. I shaked more then 30 minutes after that game. Mutch love to u skill to upload it❤
Great game regardless of the vehicle!
Well played, brother
It's a broken tank, for sure, but it takes a superb player to show just how broken it can really be like that
Anyone saying 'it was because the the tank is broken', well, that's like saying astronauts have a rocket so going to the moon isn't all that impressive
Really impressive stuff!
First mistake was the EBR 75 and second was this abomination. But at the end really nice game from Don Emo
The entire ebr line was a gigantic mistake
bourrasque, škoda, but everything pales in comparison to this
@@zograf4572 Could not agree more. I hate that crap more than I ever hated arty, which is quite something when you think about it.
First mistake was the E25/Skorpion. It was all downhill after that.
EBR 75 is a very high skill tank to survive and carry games, BZ is a zero low skill tank to do both
Once they let him get hulldown there was no chance, even with tier 9s that turret is impossible to go through
What are you talking about bruh you can literally overmatch the roof of the turret quite reliably
@@arif11011 overmatching with tier 6 and 7 guns? not possible. tier 8s firing heat is the closest possible option
@@arif11011 To overmatch reliably you need 124mm caliber gun and higher. And those poor souls did not have this large guns.
@@ashtheswan705 Do you see the roof of this monstrosity... when it's hull down with -10 gun depression? do you even know what you are talking about?
@@arif11011 that's if your tank is tall enough to do so or have elevated ground otherwise, opinion rejected.
In my hands, an ordinary tank. In the hands of a great player, a fantastic tank.
Well a Enemy Team full of Idiots if they all push BZ together he has no Chance to Win this Game but GZ🤩
yep they were typical greedy seagulls that dont like to cap, instead they waste time chasing last tanks. hate those players they are the worst and my teams always lose to them so i get hunted by cowards with no skill. but unlike bz they always charge at same time.
Apparently they do have the right to nerf premium tanks
they could always nerf premiums but they dont, the devs love creating casino toxic game, they catter to the worst groups imaginable, ffs they added artillery to a tank game! troll devs. glad i quit this god awful game
They have every right to nerf any tank or even delete it including the premiums... have you ever read the EULA (License agreement)? The simple reason they are not nerfing it is... cause they are a greedy money grab company... if they nerf a premium today... next time fools will nut rush to buy a broken tank when they release one... simple.
Its interesting how all the Steamers/TH-camrs say „it should never be sold again“ whenever all of them have and play it from time to time. No one requests a nerf or delete (refund) of this Tank
bravo for comment
No Streamer would complain if wg removed it from the game and would refund all players
@@pcl89 No streamer would have the right to claim a refund even IFwg would straight up delete the tank.
It was never sold directly to begin with.
this tank had me interested in the rocket line because they were all supposed to have a derp option but WG scrapped it and gave the line an average gun but let the bz176 keep its super derp. frankly WG should have changed the premium gun to the gun they replaced the chinese rocket ones to for balance. instead they let this thing stay in the game :/ ive got it but its just ridiculous
It would be okay if it worked like any other derp gun in the game. But it has more HE pen than some tier 8 HTs have AP pen....
@@damafratzen and its premium HE has more pen than the type 4/5 heavy derp premium. its frankly absurd. edit: premium HE rounds should not have more pen than ap
I think WG should've kept the derp option and actually made it a true dwerp, and not a Deathstar-like HESH-user in disguise. the 650 AP round is workable since it has low pen. The 800 HE(SH) round should've been a 50/60 pen value. and reduce its armor of the front turret a bit AND reduce its turret rotation. The fact this thing swings it's turret around as fast as a light tank (preverbially speaking) is absolute nonsense.
@@skorpion7132 Nerfing the armor would be even easier than that. If the turret roof gets nerfed by 1(!)mm it's overmatchable by 120mm guns.
Yea, but atleast the tech tree variants dont have inpenetrable armor, so for them, they would have been more fair, look at the tier 8 BZ-166 that thing has huge cupolas. But the premium, nope, hit my 2mm cupole while I use my 10° of gun depression and wiggle around. Why do the BZ line even have so much gun depression, the chinese tanks are known for very bad gun depression. Makes no sense.
"Dont cap - Dont cap"
- also "why didnt you cap?"
Give it away as free tank next Xmas and let us all have some fun.
so no one can play anything else ever? shit no
No it would just be no-one having any fun.
Armagedon
Saw this on some WOT replay channel and this is what I wrote there - fair and balanced. This tank is possibly the strongest tier 9 heavy in the game.
If WG don't want to nerf this tank, at least remove it from Tier 6 and 7 battles, put it against Tier 8, 9 and 10 only. After this they can sell the tank again or whatever! Thanks Skill the index page is very nice!
Never sell this tank again? More like rolling it out in the shop every other year for 3 days at a time in about a year from now.
I remember when this tank came out, I had just finished my wot 'phase' so I didn't buy it because I didn't know when I'd return, returned this past Christmas and have been playing since, I damn regret not getting this tank, I know it probably gets all sorts of focus in games and is probably less fun to play these days, but I wanna feel this power just one time
Hats of to improving constantly on the Index page. 😊😊
Only the SU-100 hit him once with premium ammo ... no one is shooting him with gold. He was very lucky. Remember the old days where Defender was broken or T-59? And WG told us, they would never sale this tanks again ... and now? I think in 1 or 2 years they will sell the BZ176 aswell. If WG needs money, they will do this.
Which also sucks cause new players like me can’t get it and then people with 10k hrs in the game main it and there is nothing I can do as a tier 6 leveling tanks.
why are you even playing this pay tow in game in the first place? its a terrible game, community is toxic and the game is pay to win and incredibly unbalanced.
i got a bz 176 in a loot box and i sucked every game in it , sadly for you i havent played in a year lol
They can nerf it they just choose not to. The tank was part of loot boxes which in itself is a gamble to what you get. There is no price on this tank therefore they can do what they like
hmm, if they nerfed it, would they get more backlash or more positive feedback 🧐, probably 50/50 the ones who have that tank would complain, and the rest would be happy.
Yes but y'all realize this game is 1 in 1million in other games versus higher tiers which is 90 procent of times you can't eaven pen half of your shots
Here's a wild theory. I'm not a BZ-176 or ANY shady sh** advocate, but... What if all these WoT youtubers /streamers are all saying that this tank (BZ-176) is OP and should not ever be sold again. Only for Wargaming to sell it at a super premium price and then have insane sales from that because of everyone saying how this tank is broken, the "fear of missing out" so to say... In the hands of a good player any tank can be viewed as OP. Ofcourse the tank is powerful, you might even say OP, but if you give it to a "tourist" its just another tank.
Sure Tanks is straight up unfair vs. tier VI but, the enemeys are special and threw it away. Would say you could have a battle like this even better with a T 56 with those enemys.
Skoda is also quite a broken tank so that still doesn't really absolve the issue at hand. The basic problem is that unlike a KV-2, these tanks have equal (or marginally better) alpha dmg, either directly or through burst while having a quite heavily armored tank. Facing inexperienced or 'bad' player is no excuse for a tank to simply be broken based on its stats alone.
@@skorpion7132 Bad Players get rekt against every Tank. Good Players will Always Farm. Thats all i saw Here. I Take a good Player in a patton59 ober a Bad Player nicht in bz everytime.
stop coping
@@janb.6434 Oh really, I played 40+ games today and faced many BZs and because I hate those tanks I always looked up the stats, they almost always were top of the team dmg wise and are below 50% winrate players many of them at 48%.
@@janb.6434 And what kinda point is that? So tanks like the Chieftain are not OP because bad players die in them.... (AND YES, BAD PLAYERS COULD BUY THAT THING WITH BONDS BACK THEN SO DONT SAY YOU NEED TO BE A PRO TO HAVE ONE)
wait for flying tank soon
its like the old mighty KV-1S in the tier 6
And yet, it was on sale again in the "Summer Sales 2024" (July 15 - 22) for 50 Euros
WG should sell it for 200€ Baseprice. Their Moneyproblems will be gone.
Do you think a multi Billion company has many money problems?
@@cseszlaa They are greedy AF... That's the point.
I would have loved to see the enemy team chat... 😂
This tank is so overpowered that i couldnt even pen it in the upper plate with AP.Thats just crazy
With a tier 9 btw
Just make it a tier 9 and adjust the hit points or whatever and it would make more sense.
This is the bigest advertise for this tank, congratulation 👏
I would love to see the enemy chat. 😂
you are my *Tank Daddy* ,
Thank you so much for your website but also the community that they support you so you can support us, so Shout out to Skill and everyone that supports him! Big Love
I was on my break when they sold this tank in the boxes, but i'm already predicting that in this year's boxes there will be a tier 8 premium medium tank with a 130mm gun, 3 shot magazine, ridiculous turret armor and a siege mode.
Only nerf WG needs to do with this tank is to restrict it to tier 8 and up.
I'll cap out for the win all day every day
yep i also like to cap instead of wasting 2-5 minutes chasing a light or driving across the map just to take out 2-5 last tanks. unfortunently too many people greedy seagull and afraid to 1v1 like men so they waste time chasing last tanks or hunting to get that 1 extra credit instead of capping and making more money finishing the match on time.
people want to complain about balance when they cant even cap the frikking base xD
If it was me, insta cap and the game is ends there.
those players were most likely the unskilled kill hungry seagulls that my teams like to lose against, they dont cap and theres always that one troll that keeps stepping on and off cap while his teamates hunt you down instead of ending the game and capping. hate those kind of players and i cant believe im saying this im glad the bz won against those greedy cowardly seagull type players
I love this tank, but it is so rare to get a Tier 6 match with it. It's almost always a Tier 9 or 10 match. These seal clubbing games don't happen that often.
This tank shouldnt be in the game, on the other hand this game was phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal... This player knows what he is doing, kudos mate!
Ah, the BZ-176, or as I like to call it, the BS 176.
So glad ive got this tank 🎉
Remember this was how the whole line of rocket booster Chinese tanks were supposed to be. All had gigantic derp guns.
Except that BZ-176 is more like a "budget" FV 183 (Deathstar) than a derp.
While is says HE for its ammo, its practically just HESH.
@@skorpion7132 the whole line was to have alternative high calibre HE guns like the BZ-176. For example; BZ-75 was to have an alternative 180mm gun, a 1800 dmg round with 75mm pen and a 1050 damage round with 225mm pen.
This was all canned after the BZ-176 showed it would ruin the game.
I have 10 kills with Bisonte and 11 with KV 220. Should they must be stopped in the game? In KV 220 game was 1 vs 10.
It was very expensive to buy from boxes, which makes it completely balanced.
This is a real highlight about the real meaning of broken. U can go "way too risky than necessary", U can be "very impatient", U don't need to care about "base defense", U can perform a "nice preaim" with growing bloom, from 400m+, and have a success. U can even "go through the middle of the field in a way..." And thats it. U don't need to be focused, U don't need to play precise, U don't need to do extraordinary tactical decisions to thatGreat success, honorable end stats, proud gamer.
I need to defend A44 player for a real example. Yeah he was definitely not a Super Unicum, but hey... What did U expect from a Tier7 guy, who didn't even unlock the top gun of the A44? And he at least knew what a circle of death means, and tried that with a fkin Bonus. Now that was brave if something... He just shot standard rounds on a middle T7 gun means in this case 125 mm penetration. Not much place where U can shoot at a 176 with this, and not much angle U will succeed even from the side (Btw. it has a whopping 156 mm pen with gold in tier7 so...), but at least distraction... But what was the other option, while 176 was in a ditch and snapshotting all the incoming teammates on open field one by one?
First of all the enemy team are bunch of bots rushing to die 1 by 1 second thing WG need to sell more of this tank to even the game like you see in this game bz was only on one side
What is the fuss about. I have this tank and I don't play it and I didn't see that many of them on random and I never had a game when this thing dominated.
Wargaming gave me the greatest Christmas gift of the BZ-176, I can't imagine how salty and annoying I would be If I didn't own the thing.
@WorldOfTanksOfficialChannel See, everyone should be allowed to own a BZ-176 if they choose to.
@@hohumfan2631Everyone had an option. Buy loot boxes for 240€ and 100% guaranteed - you have the tank
As a tier 8 vehicle hesh should be 650 which is still massive for its tier and a 530 ap. Sadly, it will never get nerfed, will it?
Wow! Awesome! Cold blood pump to the brain won the match. You got a Brazilian fan.
If the enemy team was better he wouldn't have been able to do that. How often does that happen ??
Yea of course the enemies played it stupid, throws like this happen pretty often actually, but he is still a good player.
Disgusting tank, but obj 703 and skoda t56 can do same shit in this kind of matchmaking.
what a coincidence 2 other overpowered real money tanks are just as strong as the new real money tank. pay to win game is pay to win
It's Weird how I never felt afraid of that tank, maybe cuz I don't play tier 6 or 7 anymore.
Those models containing 3D styles as well are lit bro!
I 200% disagree, the only people who say the BZ-176 should never be sold again, already own one. Wargaming is screwing over everyone who doesn't have one and it's literally costing them more players than if they just sold the tank. The tank can't be un-done, time to let everyone else have a shot at owning one.
boo. thats the philosophy they used for Lefh, and now tier5 is unplayable garbage.
Exactly, there are many bz 176 in the game, and a lot of times, this tank is only on 1 side, so to make it, even they need to sell it again
Remember when Defender came out ? people had the same discussion but now what's happening ? everybody forgot about it and it will be the same with BZ.
"Never sell it again" is the most ridiculous idea. When you have a game changer tank you have 3 options. 1) you nerf it (not the one I prefer) 2) you witdraw it from the game (like they did with WTE100) 3) You sell it daily so anyone can buy it. Never sell it again just gives a HUGE advandage to those they've already have it
On Asia it's fine because it's rare that you get a full tier 8 game, most of the games are full tier 10
Funny, but sad.
By the way, love the new features on your web site! Very convenient. Great work
The only thing WG will hear out of this video is... when we do sell this vehicle again we can charge way more!
Thankfully YOU don't get to decide anything, there's no shortage of players who would love to own a BZ, the only people who say it should never be sold again ALREADY OWN ONE.
BZ is a strong tank, I agree with you, but in the battle it wasn't the tank but rather the opponents who were simply not good.
It was both, really
Like Skill said, even against truly stupid enemies (which these weren't), the IS6 could never have done anything like that
Or the T34. Or the Renegade. Or any other tank
They did go at him one at a time though, and gave him time to reload, which was not good team play
But still. Any other tank would have been dead there really quick
Other guys struggling to get near 10k damage in tier 10.
BZ-176 hold my beer...
There was no skill in that game just an over powered tank
I find it odd that they resold this tank and haven't said it'll never be sold again, BUT, they won't resell the ebr 75 because of 'balance'.
This is a classic case of incompetent players being incompetent. Then these same losers and others will see this video and cry about the BZ instead of realizing the obvious incompetence of this team of clowns.
Is the BZ a strong tank? Yes, but it is beatable, I've soloed quite a few. You have to be smart when attacking a BZ and these people clearly weren't.
the fact it sees tier 6 or tier 7 says a lot how idiotic BZ-176 is. You're just one sample vs the norm. What an ignorant statement.
@YoMamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I understand, it's a skill and common sense issue with you.
@@rodneymercado7195 oh boohoo its really just skill, yeah man, fall back to that when you can't offer any reasonable argument on how tier 6/7s can fight that tank "solo"
and this game is exactly why I ignore chat with the "no cap kill all" nonsense.... its always better to just take the win. How to fix the BZ: Put it up to tier 9, increase shell pen and bump up the hp... fixed..
It's silly what the consequences of that one lawsuit over Super Pershing nerf back 10 years ago would end up being
Really loved this one Skill thanks for your great commentary on it too.
My friend bought the boxes back then because he wanted Vipera and he was sad when he get BZ instead... he was always lucky... :)
They need to put up the T8 EBR for sale again, I am pissed as a tank collector that I took a break when they had it up for sale in 2020....and they keep teasing it on splash wallpapers during game loading
WG : He is right. We should sell this only on special events for 10 times the price.
It is still one of the most played tanks at tier 8 even though it hasn't been sold again. That doesn't solve the problem.
WG should actually start nerfing premium tanks (since players are not buying ownership, but they only buy access to use them), or if not, most OP tanks should be for bonds. P2W is actually costing WG a lot of players. Too many players left and too many are leaving. It is a very short sighted approach that in the longer run will lead to death of WOT. The problem is not just BZ, but BZ is "just another" tank in the series. Typ 59. E25. Progetto. EBR. Chrysler. Defender.... There were many broken tanks in the past, but now, I don't even know how WG would have to buff every single other tier 8 & 7 tank, so that they would not nerf "premium" tank. I wish they actually started making tanks with preferential mm, as those are weaker than tech tree ones, offer a decent game & income and are not toxic & harmful for the game balance.
Very often, when I see BZ or a platoon of BZ, I just know it is not going to be a good game, so I try to find deep water or cliff, so I can go back to garage faster & pick another tank, so that hopefully I could get a decent game. This is what WG has done. BZ is just too toxic for me.
So instead of fighting back you literally sabotage your own team and blame it on the bz. Good to know bro
@@arif11011 You know what ? I have more respect towards tier 5 premium arty players than BZ players. I just don't want to play with them (both with them and against them) and I generally don't want to have anything to do wit them. Generally, if I see that I may have a chance to have a nice game, when there is a BZ on my or in enemy team, I just try to make sure that I will go to the part of the map where there is no BZ. If BZ is on enemy team, I will wait a bit till some one spots it & then go where I won't fighting it. It works both ways, so if there is a BZ on my team, I will always go elsewhere so I won't be even supporting my teammate... cuz they don't need me anyway, remember ? They bought outrageous P2W stuff, so they will win on their own. By choosing BZ, not only they show a middle finger towards EVERYBODY in the match (both enemy & their team), but also they support the P2W stuff in WOT, so why should I support such team mates ? And if they are on enemy team, like I have said - I will ignore them, or if there is no way to ignore them I won't be the source of fun for them.
Also, speaking of "sabotage your team"... how long do you play WOT ? Do you still believe that team matters ? WG tough me not to care if the game is won or lost. It is all RNG. They even admitted it. That mm is designed to "control" player's win ration and keep it in 49 - 50%. Team is an illusion. Especially if you have a mission to do & you have to fight your own team to meet the conditions.
@@Tommy_The_Gun dude just stop playing the game, you clearly believe that you can do nothing to help your team so all you do is sabotage it. That only helps the enemy. And yes i believe the team matters, when you get a good team with players who know what they are doing, you win. If you get noobs and new players who dont even know where a BZ's weakspots are then of course youll lose. I'm just an average player but ive carried my fair share of games where me and my teammates prevented a loss. You should try it, instead of asking why you should support your teammates
@@arif11011 I can not count how many times I carried the game too. I have like 32K battles & started playing in 2012. Carries did not happened often. Very rarely. But what does it matter now ? Right now it is just an old memory. A memory, cuz nowadays, the trend is if you are not a high-level p2w player (who buys every single loot box x 500), you won't be having all those "carries" any more. It just hurts me to see what has become of this game.
Btw. "BZ's weakspots" 🤔 ?!... I mean it has 2-3 pixels of height of lower plate and 1 pixel of commander's hatch. G. That for sure is a weakspot... XD
Anyway, you are right about one thing - I should stop playing WOT... just like all my friends who could not stand drastically growing level of P2W in WOT. I am the last of our bunch who is still playing, but well... it is about to change. A shame cuz more & more players are leaving... So um.... goodbye I guess.... oh and one more thing... for all of those BZ owners.... ekhem... (clears throat): "Good buy" .
Only chance to balancing it, is to match it versus Tier 9 and 10, not versus lower tiers
even if i own this tank, i would happily delete it from the game to make tier 8 a better place
I sold mine when I cleaned out my garage. I basically play 2 or 3 tanks every now and then (I try to quit but can't...) I think I own 10 max tanks now.
Do you get two Kolobanovs if you you beat more two sets of 4 tanks solo?
Didn't even watch the rest of the video, but you're too funny 0:10
You just got another subscriber
I actually don’t mind the idea of making it a tier 9 and adjusting it for that.
The fact they haven’t adjusted this tank in any way at all since release is astounding. Even if WG is worried about pissing off the people who have it they are so few in comparison to how many are effected by it in game. I’ve even seen people commenting that they have it but don’t play it because they feel it ruins it for others. It’s rather disrespectful by WG honestly.
They should increase reload time, lower alpha to around 500 and give it AP
BZ is not op, its toxic. It is the final bully. Bad against tier 9 and 10, invencible against tier 6 and 7. Makes the borasque balanced when you are in a tier 6 tank.
Stopped playing in 2017 because of the release of the Chrysler K. Happy to see they've only gotten more ridiculous with the premium tanks since then.
First let me say, I 100% agree with WG not nerfing or buffing premium tanks! I've bought a lot of tanks and I would uninstall if they started nerfing or buffing tanks I paid for with set specs! Saying that, they need to sell not only the BZ 176 but the EBR 75 (FL10) and 105 leFH1882 again. Why do I say that? Selling these tanks again gives more players especially those that joined after they were sold to buy these tanks. Buying these tanks would create more balance because there would be more of these OP tanks in battles. Then you wouldn't see them in battle as much because players know they can't just dominate due to the same tanks being in battles.
Inflicting blunt force trauma on juveline seals the movie
1:00 waiting for World of Tanks Skill4ltu Edition
The reason why I don't play this game that much anymore and I don't renew my premium time anymore
What are you on about, there’s barely any of them in games and most of the time they suck. I seriously don’t get how yall get mad over this tank, the amount of times I have 1v1 these tanks with my skorpion and won is astounding. Skill issue.
@@PickleGobbler9000 It really is just whining form weirdos. yes the tank is OP, but there are not that many of them left in the MM. Not enough to quit the gamw over at least.
Bullshit on eu playing tier 8 there is one in 50% of the games
1 shots low tier tanks, faster than some medium tanks, shots actually hit, very strong armor. this tank has everything