Doomsday Clock: The Road To Zack Snyder's Justice League Part 3.0
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- Doomsday Clock: The Road To Zack Snyder's Justice League Part 3.0
#TheSnyderCut #BatmanvSuperman #ZackSnyder #HBOMax #JusticeLeague
Part 3.0 of our 5 part series: The Road To Zack Snyder's Justice League
Part 3.5 Will be out Thursday, March 18th.
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At 5:39 it should be Siskel and Ebert. We had this fixed, but somehow it reverted back. Please be gentle
People are finally starting to realize that Marvel formula is not THE gold standard of comic book movies... if you compare everything to marvel movies and how marvely some movie was, marvel always wins. MARVEL is not THE GoldStandard !!! stop comparisons. movies are visions of people... but some are cash grabs. and marvel has more of those
A certain Scottish man would say :
ONLY GOB FORGIVES !!!
I'll never forget when a marvel page made fun of the second week drop yet when civil war had their second week drop they commented "because everyone already saw it the first week"
🤦♂️
I honestly think people would like Snyder movies more if they heard his interviews. You would understand where he's coming from and how he thinks. He makes cerebral films and they tend to be ahead of their time. They also take multiple viewing, because it's layered with mythology, philosophy and religious undertones which is supporting the narrative of the story. If there is seemingly meaningless painting in the back of a room in a scene, you can be sure it wasn't put there without thought about what it means and how it helps support the story. It's no wonder people are looking back on his films and appreciating it more.
In my opinion,
Zack's 5 movies are in my top 10 movies ever made
For what you said, and i'm agreed, when in a trailer says "from visionary director Zack Snyder" that is one 100% true sentence.
Agreed
I remember the petitions that came out after BvS, which was trying to fire Zack off Justice League and future DC movies.. I remember the endless hate by social media, critics during the BvS/SS days.. I felt as DC fan, I had crawled back into the shadows again.. when Civil War came out, made it worst.
I think there’s a point that people fail to realize when they talk about “hope” in DC movies. First off, has anyone ever looked at the Marvel films and said they inspire hope? I’ve haven’t heard it and I haven’t dealt it. It just isn’t what they’re going for. But for DC to want to make hopeful movies you first have to take those movies to a dark place. What’s the need for hood if you are living in a bright and optimistic universe? Hope comes from needing things to get better. Hence the darkness, the conflict, the turmoil. So when Superman does and there is hint of an offworld invasion, you reach for hope for things to get better.
For me, The Hopeful Marvel movies
Are
Blade 1 and 2,
Ghost Rider 1 and 2,
TASM 1 and 2,
Spiderman Trilogy,
Hulk 2003
Incredible Hulk
Iron Man trilogy
Captain America Duology
(First Avenger and Winter Soldier ONLY)
THOR 1
THOR THE DARK WORLD
GOTG
Daredevil Director Cut
X men
Xmen 2 united
X men first class
The Wolverine Unrated CUT
X men Days of future past
ROGUE CUT
LOGAN
X MEN APOCALYPSE
New Mutants
Dark Phoenix
Punisher 1989
Punisher War Zone
Elektra
Howard the duck
Venom
Ant Man
Avengers 2012
Age Of Ultron
And
Lastly,
Deadpool 1
@@kartikadewi3270 Spawn isn’t Marvel... Spawn is Image.....😐
@@MovieWatchman Image ?
Really ?
Cause I swear to god,
I remember reading spawn it said Marvel association if I am not mistaken
@@kartikadewi3270 I grew up reading Spawn and Pitt. Spawn is most definitely Image comics.. Todd McFarlane..
@@MovieWatchman oh , wow, you are perfectly right, because i just found my spawn comic issues again, and yeah it is
Image comics and Todd Mcfarlane again :)
Thanks for reminding me again moviewatchman
It all started when they cut 30 minutes of footage from BVS 😞
What's often forgotten is that, when Empire Strikes Back first came out... audiences didn't like it! "It's so DARK! The heroes LOSE at the end! What IS this?!" Of course, Return Of The Jedi showed audiences what Empire was leading up to, and then people looked back and LOVED it. In the same way, had Zack's JL been released as planned... people would have looked back at BvS sooner and realized it was GREAT.
That's interesting. Zack compared his MoS-BvS-JL trilogy to Star Wars original trilogy, saying BvS is like Empire a.k.a the darkest part of the trilogy.
Hasn't that (Empire Strikes Back) part actually been debunked. It's a talking point that was used by a bunch of The Last Jedi defenders. A lot of older TH-camrs have said repeated that it wasn't the case
@@josem7369 ACTUALLY... that "talking point" was brought up LONG before...by George Lucas, when he was defending Attack Of The Clones. 😎
8:40 The insanity behind some of these critcisms were absolutely baffling to me back then. Some of them did not pay attention. Some didn't care and showed it. The guys from Red Letter Media however had an obvious agenda. They were confused about the dream sequence? Have they NEVER watched a film that would forshadow a future film? Or a story that would have prophetic dream-sequences? Like Shakespear's Mcabeth? Those nightmare scenes were obvious set-up for Justice League. They understood that but chose to shit on it just the same. That asshole Rich Evans however took the cake here. He knew EXACTLY what it was, even that this was the Flash talking to Bruce. He deliberatly dismissed it so that he DIDN'T have to admit that the forshadowing was actually clever. That was the exact moment I stopped watching the video back in the day (and stopped watching RLM alltogether).
I'm glad that people have finally accepted the nightmare elements and see them for what they REALLY were. Clever forshadowing that would be absolutely incredible with a repeated view of the film.
I think Chris Stuckmann rewrote the battle. It was awful.
I stopped watching their reviews a long time ago because they have an agenda and clear bias.
It's even more incredible with the knowledge and lore of the source material.
Good God, I forgot how tortuous and torturous the path that led us to Josstice League was. It’s like a bunch of memories so bad that they’d been repressed. I think anyone who was a hopeful DCEU fan had to grow a thick skin fast. Critics and access media types like to point the finger at how toxic Snyder fans were and how they were the victims of said toxicity, but they always fail to mention how brutal and downright vicious they were (and some continue to still be) to Snyder, his films, and his fan base. The bullies always play victim when people stand up to them. Regardless, thank you for piecing all of this together. Parts of this tumultuous path being a fan of Snyder’s DC vision...parts that I had tried to forget and move on...still makes my blood boil.
I was a hopeful DCEU fan during that time. I saw BvS and SS during those times, I loved BvS and liked SS.. then I looked online.. I was crushed, disheartened by reviews especially on TH-cam. My thick skin survived a bit but not so much. The endless hate, bigotry.. it kinda of made me feel ashamed of being a DCEU fan..
It was a difficult journey but we won in the end.
@@mdthelegend9882 Absolutely... it was hell.. but we are here.. in five days.. we will see Zack's true vision of JL .
This video actually almost brought me to tears .. to see how far we've come from ZACK SNYDER being d most hated director to becoming 1 of d most loved if not d most loved Director with an Army of a Fan Base
*In my Vader voice* "It's Time! It's Time!" 👍🏽👍🏽😁
Another thing people have to realize is that when Man of Steel first came out it was banking off of the success of the Dark Knight trilogy. The studio wanted the same treatment done to Superman because that's what they thought was marketable at the time. But then of course Marvel quickly rose in popularity and completely ruined- er....CHANGED the superhero genre and that's what people were expecting with BvS. That's why it got such a backlash. Because Marvel set such an (unfortunate) standard for superhero films that they expected them all to be made that way. Even Deadpool was technically rated R and was a HUGE risk for the studio but it was still fun. And that's all superhero movies were allowed to be. It created a bias in people that would not be broken for a long time.
Perfect day to start the day
Or to end it
I feel bad for David they didn’t release his true version and fan don’t care about suicide squad movie
They do, considering how successful the Snyder cut is now. People are already fighting for the Ayer Cut and Justice League Sequels
Fans do. I'm one of them who want to see David's real Suicide Squad come out. It's slows down a bit lately to give a chance for Snyder Cut to trend. Take turns, you know.
Qais Sarfraz I hope so. But I still have doubt that will be successful cause there are people who hate the movie
AggressiveNegotiator I hope so.
I do care ! :) I love Ayer's movies, loved SS but still wanna see his original cut, I'm sure its gritty as F ! :D
I remember David Ayer and Jai Courtney even saying the reshoots were just filming an extra action scene that they didn't initially get to film. Oh the facade they had to keep.
It's funny That David ayer's is following what wb want but now wb refuse to let him to direct movie for wb anymore
@@boboboy8189 Sad since I did recently re watched SS the extended cut and the story isn’t that bad actually. It’s the soundtrack that is a major problem I’m having.
@@Seras99 is there a difference between theater version and extended cut version ???
Also....what’s funny is the MCU didn’t even have to go in that direction regarding the mandarin because the character had moved on from the fu man chu shit a long time ago. Never saw any negative shit towards Stan lee or don heck about that btw.
The comic book world needed the clarity this video provides. Well done gentlemen.
Perfect timing for the morning commute :)
Mark Hughes's point about Tsujihara is vital. In the end, had it not been for JJ Abrams getting WB to boot Tsujihara, we wouldn't have gotten the Snyder Cut for a much longer time.
JJ only hired in late 2019 but tsujihara got fired in June 2018. I Don't think JJ knew about this especially he is studio's "Yes men". He always follow what studios want from star trek, star wars and now DCEU. It's still mystery who the One That kick tsujihara but maybe there's political involment after AT-T kick him. Just like HBO max rid Superman and lois writer who want to forced script into another CW shows cliche story and hired quality scriptwriter
For me, i always think it's Jim Lee who playing the huge roll of DCEU. His ideas of multiverse, he became DC president and met AT-T boss and HBO max boss just to release snyder's cut. Jim Lee also has huge influenced with DCEU with his involvement for screenplay That even among DC fans still not praised him for.
You can read last year articles from Hollywood reporter where they stated, same day Jim Lee got his position as dc president, he met AT-T executive and HBO max CEO and asking them to invest on snyder's cut. Sadly, less people knew this and never appreciate Jim Lee huge contribution on #ReleaseSnydersCut
@@boboboy8189 Tsujihara wasn't fired until 2019.
Finally, Part 3 has arrived!!! 🥳
Yes, but it's only part 3.0.
Talking about this vid's "immense length and girth". Must...
Oh, whatever. You know the drill. 🕵️
great video guys!!
Those Ayer quotes and that comic con trailer music never seize to broke my heart.
Now that ZSJL seems to be the tsunami we always knew it was, its time for the Ayer cut.
I reckon we’ll get a glimpse of how Leto’s Joker was supposed to be in the Snyder cut.
#Reacharound
He does look terrifying I'll give you that.
We need to get the #Ayercut
20:51 "Was either movie a masterpiece? No..."
Then proceeds giving us reasons why BvS UE is a masterpiece. 😉
I laughed so hard at bvs by the minute plug 😂😂😂😂
Soooooooooooooo . . . . .
You're saying, when a studio decides to enter into a genre, they either need to . . . .
A) Hire people they trust and let them do the work they were hired to do.
B) Decide what they want from this genre and pitch that to the people they are interviewing for the positions.
C) Be part of the process from the beginning therefor finding a combination of A and B.
Imagine that, running a business like a business. If WB didn't like BvS, why let Snyder continue to JL?
Personally, I stopped caring what critics said about movies a long time ago. I'm old enough to remember all the critics hating 'Titanic', until those same critics found out the public loved it, then all of the sudden, it's 'Picture of the Year'.
What kind of weirdo HATES a film because some scenes are missing.... I’ve never quite understood that mentality. I enjoyed BvS in theatres but I obviously loved the UE. People are just over the fucking top
Theater's cut has plot hole, ultimate cut fixed That hole
@@boboboy8189 I know this. I love the ultimate edition.....but even with that plot hole it’s not enough to actually HATE the thing. I can still appreciate the elements that are there
@@designatedpiledriver8216 for me , the theater version of BVS
is like WB TRYING to make watchmen or 300 or sin city or rat pack G rated or kids version sadly
@@designatedpiledriver8216 for me , the theater version of BVS
is like WB TRYING to make watchmen or 300 or sin city or rat pack G rated or kids version sadly
@@boboboy8189 for me , the theater version of BVS
is like WB TRYING to make watchmen or 300 or sin city or rat pack G rated or kids version sadly
I knew it all along. Zack Snyder was and is ahead of its time. Definetaly a cinematic genious.
Ok! Just waking up, the day looks brighter already 😁
Love your videos guys. Inforrmative and level-headed. Keep doing what yous do
#ZackSnydersDoomsdayClock
Really well done! Men are still good 😊
I did not want this video to end! Such a great video for a Monday morning
Each part better than the one before it. Not seen one video on youtube as informative and well researched.
Well done guys!
Love from Kuwait
25:46 "too many questions" lol
🙌🏼🙌🏼 Man. I Need 3.5 to come out now while waiting for ZSJL lol
This is a perfect documentary of what happened. When that documentary comes out (and it will, dont know who is gonna make it) mark my words they will base it heavily on these videos
I’m almost 50 and have always hated reviews, don’t need others opinions on art or photography why would I need it for a movie? Thanks guys!! See you on the 18th🤘
Thank you for standing up for the heroes i love
WB doesnt deserve DC films man give it up. They keep getting involved and ruining they movies.
Civil War is always a direct response to BvS. Remember Cap3 title was to be about the rise of hydra? Yet people always said DC copy the MCU.
8:10
Just for the record, I don’t have any complaint about the editing in BvS theatrical cut. Not then, not now. Not everyone agrees the editing was a failure... I think Nolan has more frequent editing issues due to how long his movies are (it really shows the choppy editing that tries to shorten the films).
Disappointment is the key word here.
You will keep hearing the most ardent of detractors say that "I wanted to love that movie, I went in extremely hyped. And I hated it with all my might"
Such passionate hate always preceeded by the extreme hype is a pattern and it is not a healthy way to approach movie watches. Most of these people seem to be angry the movie wasn't what they expected and hyped it up to be.
The people that genuinely dislike this movie and have legit criticisms for it always put it around the 6/10 point(almost never on the "absolute garbage" category) and aknowledge the merits of the idea. They just didn't like the execution
You know what makes me more mad than anything about this whole thing WB could have had something so special on their hands, the thing Zack Snyder was building was amazing the whole Superman going through them phases and stuff and the same with Batman it could have taken so many movies it could have been so amazing man fuck WB
The road is almost over!I hope it will be super!Im waiting for your next part!
Zack Snyder will always be my favorite Director ever since Ridley Scott
and I don't care about the haters
Holy shit! Can't believe I've only just come across this series! Not even three episodes in yet and it's absolutely great. Love your dissection of the criticism and the 'groupthink' mentality. Really detailed and well researched stuff.
Hate towards Snyder's film's really saw an uptick after he started talking positive of Ayn Rand. Surprise surprise...
Snyder just said that his story was fascinating. That was it. I never saw people trashing directors who wanted to make a film about Hitler for example. He then went on to say that the world would need to be in a better place before he could make a film like that. He could depict rand to be actual Satan and people would still call Snyder a fascist sympathiser
You guys really make some of the best videos on TH-cam. I Know I say it often but feel you both deserve the praise! 👏🏻
Absolutely Amazing
this is a masterpiece
*standing ovation* 👏👏👏
One of the most funniest things to me is people appreciating BvS and MoS over time. I recommend so many people to watch the extended cut of BvS because it will definitely change their mind. I rewatched the extended cut last spring and it made me think how brilliant a villain Lex Luther is and Jesse’s performance. When I see people say they wished superman was more like the Reeve version, it just proves to me how much nostalgia can blind people. As much as I love those films, the world has changed a lot since the 70’s and that type of superman just wouldn’t work in today’s society. I think trying to cater the critics is a silly idea when they’re not paying to watch the film. EDIT: if anyone who says suicide squad “flopped”. How does a film that was number one at the box office for a month be considered a flop. This reminds of when Ben Affleck was talking about pearl harbour “sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes they say you lost when you technically won”. I’m just so sick of the narrative of the DCEU needing to be “saved”
Imo pearl Harbour is michael bay's 4th best movie
This is perfect cuz ZSJL is close
Definitely worth the wait. Ty Marks. #restorethesnyderverse
I like the music you're using from mass effect 3. I recognize the piano
wow i never seen the theatrical cut of BVS i cant believe they took so much
This video has amazing quality. Subscribed now.
Wow. Your production is next level guys. Masterclass.
Good video, keep it up. However the Suicide Squad movie wasn't the live action debut for the character Deadshot, that belongs to Smallville.
I like Batman V Superman,always have. I am a long time fan of DC comic book stories and their characters. I feel like I’ve waited forever for the great stories they have to tell to get their moment in the sun but it’s starting to show a bit more to everyone else I think, I hope.
For the longest time, I felt like I was the only one who genuinely liked Batman v Superman (Though I prefer the ultimate edition over the theatrical cut, naturally), it was the most disheartening experience for me as movie fan, least at it was until history repeated itself with the release of the Last Jedi, another movie that genuinely really like and will stand by it till the end of life, but left so damn heartbroken by everyone else who would take any and all oppertunity to mercilessly crap over it without hesitation.
I am not a comic books fan, nor read any of the DC or Marvel comic books. My intorduction to comic book superhero movie was Spiderman back in 2002, then Iron Man in 2008 and The Dark Knight in 2008. Man of Steel (MOS) released in 2013 and since then it's been in my list of one of my favourite movies ever. I thought Zack Snyder was a genius to handle the entire movie the way it was and give an important reboot to Superman in one of the best way possible. Remember, I had aleady watched Iron Man 2 came in 2010, Thor in 2011, Captain America: The First Avenger came in 2011, The Avengers in 2012 and Iron Man 3 before MOS.
After MOS, I started reading more about DC EU and Marvel CU. After BVS: Dawn of Justice, I did understand how DC and Marvel are different in handling each of their universes. Both had different vision with different approaches and different ways to narrate their story. As a normal movie goer (without thinking similar to how DC and Marvel fanboys behave), watching each of these movies are fun experience for me. Nothing more.
But the comback of Zack Snyder's Justice Leagues actually gives me immense pleasure to see what the fanbase can achieve and make giant production houses come down to their knees. 🙂
I'm supposed to be working rt now maan
This Video needs to have more Views. I'm gonna like this with all my accounts.
For the theatrical release they obviously wanted to focus on Bruce/Batman, but they still showed tidbits from Clark and Lex’s perspective, undercutting Batman as the protagonist. If they wanted to do this right, they should not have shown any parts of Clark or Lex without Bruce there to be our guide. This way we can honestly fall inline with his way of thinking and root for him, even if he’s wrong. And so when it’s revealed to us that Bruce was wrong all along we feel the same jolt that Batman does when he chucks the spear. We would only be in Bruce’s media bubble and fall with him/rise with him. This would have been an amazing movie. Then later they could have released the Ultimate Cut showing us the three different parties perspectives and their roads to conflict resolution. Just imagine only following Bruce as he does his detective work, as he discovers Lex’s kryptonite, the other super powered individuals, as he learns of Superman’s involvement in Africa, but only Lex’s influenced story. That could have been so powerful. But the WB could be patient. They got greedy.
RIP Jon Shchnepp.
Y’all don’t miss with these videos
In a perfect world we would have competent leaders in WB and Snyder would be praised.
bravo....what a well made video. so proud!
Ben Affleck's sadness wasn't even remotely anything to do with the movie, He was going through a very painful divorce at the time. I wish people would actually do their result instead of making assumptions
We are aware, which is why we bring up his battle with alcoholism as well....
Great video! What's the piano music in the back ground guys?
Thank you!
honestly a big problem with the Snyder hate is that WB hurt themselves by cutting those 30 mins from the Ultimate Edition. They destroyed the pacing and created plotholes with that theatrical cut. Snyder himself also imo over spoiled the movie with trailer 2, 3 and the tons of clips. Doomsday was spoiled, the teamup was spoiled. Wonder Woman saving Batman was spoiled, Batman's warehouse fight scene was shown almost entirely in trailer 3, Clark and Bruce's first meeting was pretty much spoiled entirely as well. They spoiled too much of the big moments and destroyed the story's logic/pacing. That really hurt the movie.
Well, it is not zack who did the trailers.
If that is zack, I would be pissed off
Damn, I love this series!
“Group think? Phenomenon?” Look at u guys being all edumacated and using big werds n shit. 😂 Jk guys. Another great vid! 👍
Finally!
Critics after every movie be like:
Critic 1: "So what do you think about the movie, guys?"
Critic 2: " *blyeah* "
Critic 3: " *blyeah* "
Critic 4: " *blyeah* "
Critic 5: " *blyeah* "
Critic 1: " *blyeah* "
All critics: " *blyeah* "
I like both DC and Marvel
it really does exist wow
I am excited for part 2 which will in 4 days💯
The 40 minutes flew by real quick! When's part 2? I remember being excited for both movies back then. I was a fan of the superhero genre. Most of my friends were MCU fans. I was one of them too. It was pretty cool seeing Marvel Studios building there own universe. I used to like Civil War. I thought it was a cool coincidence that Civil War and BVS were similar. After a while I didn't like Civil War. It didn't have the rewatch value. I was fooled into thinking the parking lot fight was the best thing ever for the superhero genre. Over the years I became pro Zack Snyder anti MCU. You can thank MCU fans, critics, bloggers, normize for that! I have legit criticism of the MCU movies, but apparently I'm crossing line and gone too far where Zack Snyder gets criticize into oblivion. Like I always said if you still hate Zack Snyder, hate Batman v Superman, side with WB, side with Geoff Johns, side with Joss Whedon after reading the Variety article then you have no heart PERIOD! Geoff Johns fucked the DCEU! He was Leo the Ford Executive from Ford v Ferrari and Lex from Batman v Superman!
awesome video
factual
on point
no bullsh
Great video
" ...or some other motivations"
Thank you for hinting to the obvious
Great video! Say Famuyiwa one more time for me tho!!!
I could've watched BvS TC even mute and would still understand the motives and everything...not too many people focused on the faces in the movie...its actually one of the reasons I love Snyder's movies...he can make the shittiest actor/actress play the best role of their life - Gal Gadot is the perfect example along with Momoa and Miller - they are few of the absolutely worst actors in cinema history but when you see Gadot in BvS, you think its for real !!! So, I never understood that hate for BvS, even the hate for Cavill's lack of lines, I thought its perfectly clear what's in his mind, just by looking at his face - and then the dialogue with pa Kent made everything clear as day. Or Bruce's look on the batsuit, omg....that image is worth of 1000 lines. You immediately understood the whole Batman story ! I mean, of course you didn't see the details that were placed back in UE and of course since then, I watch only that version but its mostly because I would be able to watch a Snyder movie that is 10 hours long :D
And also, I loved SS, no matter what but of course I'm sure it is even better in the original cut ! So I hope that will see the light of the day as well. And its been said times by now but Ayer is an ex soldier and he's been taught to be "loyal" - I mean, if (while he was serving) he would've seen an alien and was said to keep quiet about that, he would do it, that's what he is. So I can understand what he did there. I'm just sad that because of WB's own fault, he was thrown out of his own movie, just to make a sequel without him, again pandering to critics with TSS, which is obviously going to be a GOTG rip off. I mean, you couldn't come up with something like this, no matter how much you'd try :D
Can't wait for the second part !!!
I actually got into a fight with someone on a Star Wars page yesterday about goup thinking, and the public perception of the Disney era Star Wars films. The discussion, how it is a group thinking error that everyone hates the sequel trilogy. I've been saying for years that the mob mentality of the group known as the fandom menace (the group trying to kill the modern takes of DC, Star Trek and Star Wars) is what is causing the issue
Ehhh I disagree. The fandom menace is AGAINST the shill group think mentality of Disney crapping on Legacy characters to make their new diversity quota checklist characters look better by comparison. Snyder “deconstructed” DC heroes to then RECONSTRUCT them and give the audience a deeper perspective of their core values. Rian Johnson and others “deconstruct” Star Wars characters to make the point “they were never that good to begin with...now LOVE my new politically driven character instead!”.
Completely different intentions then what Snyder has done.
I’m pro Snyder Cut, AND “Fandom Menace”. I’m also NOT on twitter, because I’m not a narcissistic sociopath and also don’t like being around them.
Disagree, star wars unlike DCEU has a lore since episode IV.
While DCEU lore started with Man of Steel.
By ruining character from previous lore is why Disney's star wars Fail to realize.
And Rian Johnson did same thing as joss whedon did to josstice league, changing the lore and character themselves into something That are fit to studios narrative.
If they want to create their new lore, they should just reboot star wars franchise. Just like DCEU did. Problem is Disney, KK and JJ refuse to do so, they afraid original fans will ran away and now their fear is turning into reality. When producer and director disconnected with fans, is where the franchise died.
@@boboboy8189 lore which got erased in the merger(rightfully so). The one decision Lucas made that I questioned for this reason. You are incorrect btw. Rian was there when 7 was being finished, each idea he had was approved by JJ as JJ was still a producer. The main difference is cultural impact by legacy of the characters. Luke was a hero's journey character, after the journey was complete. At that point the character had become mythical in and outside the universe. Superman however was the world's first comic hero subjected to a literary deconstruction on what the genre has become since 1938. Additionally as of this moment SW doesn't have significant time travel (the first possibility was in Rebels final season) or multiverse, unlike its contemporary genre IPs. DC on the other hand, has had an established multiverse since the Silver Age when Barry Allen traveled to meet Jay Garrick and the JSA. If they acknowledged that in universe, it might ease tensions. A straight disavow of the new timeline will alienate the new fans who pushed each of the new film up past $1 billion. Also trying to please everyone isn't working either, ROS is proof of that
these sort video give the pump to kick scott mendelson in the stomach
I have been waiting for it for so long 🔥🔥
Damn it guys this is fucking amazing!! Once #ZackSnydersJusticeLeague is out to the whole world and we've seen it a couple hundred times. We rally the troops and get David's cut released. #AyerCut
It has arrived..
Regarding the movie I proposed below, get this, it would be called Batman: Crusade or even just Caped Crusader, something along those lines to parallel Batman’s frame of mind skirting on religious zealotry.
Finally.
so we some kind of Special Task Force X?
BTW Geoff Johns leaked the story that Zack and Chris Terrio were doing before shooting BvS to the MCU.
Right now a lot of people still don't believe it, hope with time people will know the truth.
Geoff Johns, Jon Berg, Kevin Tsujihara, Walter Hamada and many more WB executives were and are still the real Villains.
This is why if you want that the Snyderverse continue, you need to ask to At&t and HBO-Max not Warner Bros.
Yeah its hear !!!
i have this innate feeling that the Flash movie will be a "cluster fu#k of stupidness"
Hate train and cancel culture are the worst things that happened in this era.
G r o u p t h i n k