Palisade Waterproof Tiles Shower Installation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2021
- Learn how to install Palisade Waterproof Tiles in a shower. DIY guru, Skip Bedell, will show you how it is done.
Installation guide, here: diydecorstore.com/install-gui... - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
I would have ripped my first row a little bit so there wasn’t such a small piece under the window, and at the top of the shower…and it NEEDED to be staggered..😩🤦🏽♀️ i couldn’t handle showering in that with the seems all the same, and the patterns being so different 😂but that’s just my opinion and my taste. I’m sure some people wouldn’t mind that layout, but I definitely would have done the “brick lay” pattern if it were my own shower, or for a client, unless they specified otherwise. I want to try these out in a couple months when I move!
I think it would look so much better if the tiles design lined up I am doing my shower now and that is what I am focusing on. I guess I am OCD. But thank you Skip for all the videos that allowed me to do this myself!!!
Same here that would make me crazy
@@christinaregan-ardito4559 Same here, design looks to patchy.
I agree.
My thought too! I’d go nuts.
I prefer the horizonntal application like here. It's the tile design that causing vertigo, not the application. I dont think a vertical application would really make that much of a difference. Its a terrible design regardless of direction.
I used this product and while it went fairly well there are a few things I can recommend.
I used a standard 50% overlap to stagger the joints, looks better to me, everything terminating at the same spot isn't appealing.
I used a lot more adhesive and silicone sealant, I used twice the amount provided, the working area was a remodel and the surface wasn't always perfect so the adhesive would need to be thicker to span the gap in a slightly out of square corner or low spots in the wall, this allows the Palisade to appear smooth while still having good adhesion. Your project may be more square and go well with whats provided.
I applied silicone sealant to the joint and then made a bead on the wall that came all the way to the back of the tile before installing the next piece. This was because many of the panels would have a small chip missing out of the tongue corner leaving a very small gap (very minor shipping damage), basically there was enough sealant that it sealed between the wall and the panels along with the interlock.
The process of using only the corner molding to have water run down and saying you can put silicone there isn't wise, you should for sure and use plenty, water leaking behind and getting trapped will lead the mold, you need to make sure your water tight.
I agree on putting silicone sealant inside the corner moldings where the tiles slide into. I'm surprised that the contractor did not mention this as this would prevent any water from getting back there too. Thanks for pointing this out.
Excellent teacher! It’ll make the difference between renovating or not renovating as labor is expensive and I can do this myself!! Thank you 🙏
Great step by step. Thank you. I just finished doing our floors with LVP. Pretty much the same process except for working vertically or horizontally. 👍
Awesome step by step! Can’t wait to try this on my 2nd bath.
i use these palisade shower tiles all the time. probably have done 300 tub walls with these...everything you did was correct except not staggering them looks horrible.
Curious if any unforeseen issues have arose over time? Haven’t heard from anyone who’s installed these or has them installed, on longevity of the system.
This is a great step by step video. Thank you for all the hard work.
Busy pattern but great concept and great for diy and to freshen up a bathroom.
I used handheld automotive glass dual suction cups to hold and position the tiles. Much easier than latex glove for grip. Thanks for the video instruction.
Thanks. Excellent demonstration!
Really great video. Thank you!
Superb video with all the tips you require. Thank you
Very helpful video. Thank you!
Only critique I would have is to rip your first run of tile to where you wouldn't have such a small sliver under the window and just under the ceiling. Looked like a nice product though.
@5:53 you point out a space left for toom to connect the last piece. You should say how you measured that so its the right length.
Great video and thanks for posting!
I wish he could redo my shower 🙈 this is perfect 👌🏼
Great instructions!
Nice job. Thank you
Very informative video 💯🌟💜🌟💯
Did two rooms with this,. Hint. When laying out each row, sometimes they are not level with each other. I would add a "dry piece" above each joint and it would then reveal a piece was not pushed all the way in place.
Would like to see a video using this product to make a shower niche.
Can I just hire you to come do my shower?!! Nice job!!
Excellent demo! Please have a display board with samples at Lowes and Home Depot. Neither have any in stock or on floor.
I would add a bead of mildew resistant silicone at the base of that first tile sitting on the tub rim. That is where maximum water collects. I'm surprised you don't have an edge strip for that section.
Thank you for an exceptional video!
What if the wall is uneven? The old stone tile is higher up and lower in spots like it wasn’t laid correctly.
This is nice
Hi!
What type of glue can I use?
Thank you
I noticed he did not caulk the vertical joints --- is this recommended?
I think it would look better if the joints were overlapped. Is this possible?
Can this be installed over paneling?
Why didn't you stagger the vertical seams?
Very nice but is there a reason u didn't stagger the joints
Can these type of tiles be painted?
Looks great! What if the tiles don’t go all the up to the ceiling but stops 3/4 way up. How can you level the difference all to apply the panels all the way up?
You would want the tiles to go all the way to the ceiling. If you need additional tiles, they are sold in 8 and 10-packs, here: diydecorstore.com/product/palisade-wall-tiles/. If you need to cut tiles to fit to ceiling, see installation guide, here: diydecorstore.com/install-guides/palisade-tub-shower-kit-installation/
Cut the top tile to fit space. Assuming you mean the space left is smaller than the tile size. Just cut the tile to fit. Take vertical measurements and transfer to tile. You can test with cardboard.
I believe they mean the existing tile doesn't go all the way to the ceiling.
To fill in the area above the tile, add 1/2 and 1/4 layers Wonderboard until just below existing tile. Add a layer of thin-set using a notched trowel then smooth flat with a drywall knife . After drying, 'sand' thin-set smooth with a silicon carbide rubbing block. Remove dust. Seal thin-set with Mapei Aqua defense or Laticrete Hydroban. Let whole assembly dry 24 hours.
I just purchased the Palisades tiles. I'm having a problem determining which edge of the tile is the tongue. There is no pictures showing exactly which is the tongue. All sides of the tile have what one would call a tongue. I'm assuming the edge with the tongue? is in the center position. The other tongue is on the end. It would have been simple to take a picture of both sides and define which side is the tongue, especially when you must install the tongue up. Anybody know the answer
Please call our customer care team at 1-800-434-3750, and we will be happy to assist you.
I am using these tiles to do a backsplash on the wall above the shower surround. I have J trim to finish the edges but it doesn’t seem to be wide enough to accommodate the tiles. Any suggestions?
Our Palisade trims fit the panels. Are you using these? diydecorstore.com/product-category/wall-panel-category/wall-accessories/?filter_brands=palisade&query_type_brands=or
Recommendations on what to put on drywall before installing?
It depends on the type of installation. Learn more, here: diydecorstore.com/install-guides/
We have plaster and lathe in the bath surround - walls are in great shape. Wondering if these tiles could go right over top OR is it prudent to add some sort of water barrier? I know you don't in your video but just wondering...
A waterproof substrate is recommended. See installation instructions, here: palisade-tiles.com/installation/tub-installation/
I'm looking into prepping my cement board, did you use RedGard? Or what type of polymeric coating did you apply?
Yes, RedGard was used.
Can the tile be placed in a herringbone pattern or used on bathroom floor?
Palisade tiles can be installed in a herringbone pattern, but not in a wet/shower environment. The tiles cannot be used on the floor.
Can you put this over a shower bench if so how will the water drain over the edge if you put a piece of trim on the end.
The trim piece on the corner of the bench would hold a little bit of water. If sealant is used in channel, you'd likely not have any problems.
At 6:00 you slid that 1st row over and centered it. That created small gaps on the inside corners now. Is that ok?
Does anyone else’s trims design flake off or come off with tape?
Shouldn't you also put sealer in the tracks to keep moisture out ?
Yes, as shown in the installation guide (Edge Trims section), here: palisade-tiles.com/installation/tub-installation/
How good is the adhesive. Will i have to worry about the adhesive bondage giving way over time?
Buy your own LVT adhesive or 100% silicone the most expensive tubes you can buy
If you measured from the inside lip of the tile to the inside edge of the trim, how were you able to achieve a gap to be able to slide the tile into place?
I think he measure to the outside lip of the tile, leaving about 1/8" to 3/16" to slide it in place.
because the tiles have to slide into each other, over the course of 3 or 4 tiles that will probably equal close to 1/4 to 1/2 of gap.
Plaster?
Wouldn't the L-trim around the bottom window sill prevent water from shedding because of the slight lip?
The L-Trim on the edge is installed to prevent water getting under the Palisade tiles. A bit of water could pool at its edge, but can be easily wiped off.
So with these tiles is it not required to put that little spacer at the bottom of the rule so it's not flush with the tub? All the diy's I've seen said to not place the yikes flush with the tub... Im not sure why though.. does it depend on the type of tile?
Spacers are not required. Please follow the installation guide, here: diydecorstore.com/install-guides/palisade-tub-shower-kit-installation/
@@Diydecorstore thank you 🙂
Do you recommend this gif shower floors as well? I have travertine tiles (small) on shower floor. Want to redo the whole shower and don’t think paint will hold up as well. It’s used a lot! Thx!
Unfortunately, Palisade tiles can not be used on a shower floor.
@@Diydecorstoreare there any vinyl tile products suitable for shower floors?
What is the concern? I would think vinyl tiles would be an excellent tile replacement
@@TigerratcatSmartcore has nice LVT tiles for flooring. Palisade is not designed for the stress of being walked on on a regular basis.
I must have overlooked it on the website but what type of adhesive do you use to attach over drywall? Thanks
From the installation guide, here: palisade-tiles.com/installation/tub-installation/ - Recommended adhesives: Loctite® Power Grab® Ultimate, Titebond® Titegrab Ultimate®, Liquid Nails® Fuze It® and Manus® 75-AM HV.
What adhesive are you using to glue them to the wall?
Any answer on this?
Want to install in RV shower - are these tiles rated for extreme temperatures?
From our FAQs: Yes, as long as the recommended installation methods and adhesives are used leaving 1/4-inch space at the edges to allow for expansion and contraction. diydecorstore.com/frequently-asked-questions-faqs/palisade-frequently-asked-questions/
Why not stagger the seams?
I’m having trouble understanding the difference between the L trim and the J trim. Can someone clear this up for me? What is the J trim for? Do I need both? Thank you!
For an explanation, see here: diydecorstore.com/install-guides/palisade-trim-installation/
one goes in he corner
Does the inside corner trim piece need silicone in it before placing the tile inside it??
Yes, if you are doing a tub or shower installation.
@@Diydecorstore Do you have a video showing this.?
@@scottc.6409 Sorry, we do not. Just apply a 1/8-inch bead of sealant in the trim channel before you slide the tile into it.
We have a walk in shower in our master bathroom. Can these be used on the floor or are they just for the walls? We currently have tile on the floor and a drain in the middle.
The Palisade tiles are for walls only, not floors unfortunately.
@@Diydecorstore Thank you. Any other suggestions other than re-tile or install a surround?
Good evening. I started my project and ran into a small issue. Our shower has tile on the ceiling. What's the best way to put the tile to the ceiling and keep it in place? Not sure how long it takes the glue to set in and trying to figure out how to keep them in place until it dries.
Should you remove the old caulk where the tub and wall/tile meet before you start?
Yes, you should.
Yes and redo the seal. That's your last barrier.
If your tub is not level, can you use a trim along the bottom to seat the bottom edge into then apply silicone to seal it? That would take up the difference from one end to the other without having to make angled cuts on the tile to get them installed level. Really want to know because I plan to install this on a tub on a house that's over 100 years old, so it's cast iron and not something I am going to level.
Yes, that would work. Use silicone sealer in the bottom to prevent water sitting in the channel.
Tape the first row up over the tub, making the top edge level over the tub. Use a compass with pencil (contractors version will lock spread), setting the compass to the largest gap (keep the compass perpendicular to the tub as you scribe). Draw across all tiles using the tub as reference. Cut tiles at line. Dry fit tiles and verify top edge is level and bottom edge has no gaps. Adjust bottom edge with power sander with 120 grit. This is called scribing.
And this can be covered over existing tiles too?
Yes. diydecorstore.com/install-guides/palisade-wall-panel-installation/
actually... that is the primary reason for this stuff - covered two baths
Can this be removed without destroying the tile underneath?
Doubtful. The adhesive used would stick to the old tiles.
do you add a trim piece to the top or do you just caulk it?
Either will work.
@@Diydecorstore would the "j" or "L" trim work best? i assume miter the corners and use silicone? and if you're using the inside corner trim do you cut it a bit short to accommodate trimming the top edge? thanks for the advice!
@@azzprelunker5197 The J-trims would be best for the top. Silicone's not really needed, but it couldn't hurt. Yes, you'd need to cut the inside corner trim a bit short (about 5/16") to accommodate the J-trim at the top in your example.
I had been researching Dumawall but now come across this (same person hosting video). What distinguishes Palisade from Dumawall?
Dumawall is getting harder to find in any quantity and now only offers four or five patterns, whereas Palisade tiles are available at Lowes (same four or five patterns) I just bought 10 boxes for my bathroom project, ordered the trim on-line from Lowes.
I think they changed their name
It would have been nice if you actually showed how you put the end piece in the track and got it to clip it in in the lip at the same time.
What material are they made of?
Vinyl plastic
What glue do you recommend? Loctite ? Liquid nails or other?
From the installation guide, here: diydecorstore.com/install-guides/palisade-tub-shower-kit-installation/. Recommended adhesives: Loctite® Power Grab® Ultimate, Titebond Titegrab Ultimate, or Manus 75-AM HV
@@Diydecorstore what about gorilla glue construction adhesive
@@Luis-be3gs We do not recommend using any adhesive that is not on our list, here: diydecorstore.com/install-guides/palisade-tub-shower-kit-installation/
Why not stagger the tiles? You'll always see the joints if not plumbed.
i learned that the hard way
Maybe less waist for demo??🤷♀️🤷♀️
From my experience, having the rubberized underlayment gives you zero time to slide the tiles, so better have them almost in place first. On other substrate it was easier. The glue holds well and i liked using the corner channels, gives you a little room to move. The tiles are well made, not a single edge chipped or broke from installing, overall it's good, but the the price is a bit high.
Is this a cementicious product or plastic?
The tiles are made from a PVC-based core board, with a hi-def print color layer, then covered with a durable film coating.
Can these be installed over Kerdi board in a shower?
Yes. See installation guide, here: diydecorstore.com/install-guides/palisade-tub-shower-kit-installation/
@@Diydecorstore thanks for the quick response. Looks like it will work fine over Kerdi. Will be ordering a bunch of this very soon.
I think the seam looks pretty bad. It would be better to have staggered them but glad to know I’m not the only one with the wild idea of putting flooring on the wall.
I agree completely. This looks terrible. And that seam makes it look worse. The tile patterns don’t line up, fine, some grout would have made that look better. But the way this was installed was terrible.
Agreed
Why not stager the joints?
My thoughts exactly
This is basically waterproof flooring with sealer. Js
Trying to find someone in San Diego who can install this? No one seems to know about it?????
DIY asschole
please makes sure wall is plumb and level before you even begin
Not a fan of the color of this set but looks simple and came out looking pretty clean I bet it was a headache trying to match what was already in the box
what is the adhesive? you don't show what is the adhesive
Look in the video description (above; show more). Installation details are there.
welp, honey-do list!
That joint between those 2 first tiles weren’t even tight though 😳🤔😂🙈🤷🏻♂️
You absolutely have to glue the connections or water will get behind them and mold will grow. Don't kid yourself it's not an option.
Should’ve started with a half tile to eliminate the little piece of the top
Covering up the issues for a little while. Won't last
What do you recommend using for them to stick to cement board? Liquid nail?
diydecorstore.com/install-guides/palisade-tub-shower-kit-installation/
Excellent video explanation... but Terrible choice for tile color / layout!
This looks horrible, you’re supposed to offset the tiles
Horrible tiles, but excellent demo. Thanks you.
Is what it looks like…Junk.
Should have staggered them, looks awful and cheap! I would much rather have actual tile, those look like plastic.
Stupid idea wtf
That looks horrible!
This little th-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.