This by no means is hate towards Canon, but they struggled with oil being tossed on the sensors for years. This is why I went with Nikon so many years ago aside from the lenses. I met a guy who was using that same camera. I also met a girl who was using the Canon 5D. I was using a Canon Powershot G6. I knew them for a few years, and shot a couple gigs together. Both of them generated oil on the sensor that had to constantly be corrected in post. I saved up, and bought a Nikon D200. That camera still works, with well over 1m clicks and is being used by my friend sister for real estate. The only Nikon I've had an oil problem with was the D300. I've heard the D600 has an oil problem. The D3s, and Df I owned never had an oil problem. Now I'm back to the D200 b/c it just makes perfect skin tones. Large, Basic, Optimal Jpeg looks and nearly edits exactly like the raw file, so I don't even shoot raw at all anymore.
It's a professional 35mm camera there was no compromise when this was on the drawing board peck Canon. The highest resolution camera up till that time.
Once in a while you come across a camera channel that feels like a breath of fresh air. This is one of them. Loved the video, sorry to hear about these ongoing bad purchases
I got one in the mail today… well TWO actually. I got a 1ds mark 2 and a 1d mark 2 off eBay with a charger for a price that I won’t disclose… it was too good. I’ve wanted this body for years and years. Today’s been a good day. Both batteries are holding a great charge and both bodies are working. The 1ds has 16000 on it and is in prestige condition. The 1d is a little long in the tooth but has been functioning great. Thank you for making this video. It really helped me pull the trigger.
I agree with everything you said. Late last year I bought a 5D Mark II and it is a beast and take really amazing photos, I have an SL3 that is 24mp and the 5D Mark II kicks it right in the balls every time. Love the vid.
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Using that 5D mkii since it was released! More than 15 years shooting with it, already. Around 700.000 photos shot with the camera. (I own three of them, hehe) If you don't shoot astro photography and don't need super fast autofocussing, the camera is still on the same level as a modern fullframe camera. (Ok, dynamic range is a bit weaker, if you shoot such scenes, but I do exposure bracketing in night shots etc. anyway. ISO performance is good enough until ISO 3200, together with modern denoise software, but I rarely go over ISO 800 anyway or I use a tripod)
I've had one of these for over 8 years. Its autofocus is incredibly accurate, better than many newer cameras I've used. 16.7MP is more than enough. The two handed controls aren't a problem as I have a total of three Canon bodies which use the same system, though some people struggle when coming to one of these from a modern body. The big downsides are the lack of built in sensor cleaning - that sensor picks up crap so easily. The short battery life, especially in the cold. And the tiny buffer by modern standards, if you're attempting to shoot any kind of action. Mine also produces that odd line effect at the edge of the frame in some images. But it's still a great bit of kit, even at almost 20 years old. Canon obviously threw everything at this one, back in the day when they used to innovate and not just coast along.
I remember picking up this camera and the 1D-mk II from the shelf at Yodobashi Umeda in Osaka, Japan, back in 2004. The thing felt solid in my hand. Somthing Phil Greenspun would shoot with. I also felt I could never afford it (at then prices and my financial condition then). But I still remember. Today's kids shooting with tiny mirrorless / girlie boy cameras have no idea what real cameras felt like.
That camera was for sure a great work horse and true testoman's huge workhorse, but what makes cameras these days girlie boy cameras? Too good and too small? I bought 1D-mk II 2005 and to be honest, I like much more modern cameras.
What a great video! Sorry the body did not workout for you. In 2021, I bought a Canon 5DMkIV for work with the idea I would finish the assignment and immediately sell it. I was shooting Sony mirrorless at the time. Felt so good my large hands really loved the files and skin tones. Oh well since I’m going sell it, I thought why not find a inexpensive older Canon just to have for fun. I find a 1Ds Mark III in the used counter at my local camera store. The colors, the feel of that body, Portraits, landscapes are just special. I really don’t know what Canon did with to that sensor, I just wish they would make something that special again. Oh kept the 5DMK4 too, bought a Canon R in 2023. I mainly shoot Canon now!
Talking of dirty cameras, there are plenty of examples in our favourite auction sites of cameras that are filthy, dusty, fingered marked, etc where the seller just couldn't be bothered cleaning the camera they are selling. In general, most used cameras for sale are reasonably clean and presentable. Another great video, narrated in a truly grounded way. Another niggle, where a seller says "selling as untested as I've no batteries", when quite clearly the camera runs on AA cells, I mean, what the f#&*k. Regards Rob (UK)
I can't believe how bad your luck is. I've been buying used cameras for years now and never had any issues like you've experienced, but now I'm terrified to look harder at them. Part of me wants to blame the fact that these are very old professional bodies, exposed to probably lots of abuse and unfavorable conditions, I don't understand how you went 0/3.
#NicholasHornbrook Holly heavens! What a mess-cave that sensor! I have 1D mark II N since a month. I have checked it and oh no I have to do cleaning too. Maybe not so much as yours but still. I say you did GREAT JOB with your sensor! Regards!
I have the same issue with my 1DX right now. It's at the top of the frame, then on the left side in the portrait orientation. I really only noticed it shooting at like f/1.8 or f/2.8. I can easily crop it, but it''s annoying. KEH said they won't take it back because it was an "ugly" rated body.
I'm a bit confused as to what's to like about any digital camera that produces lesser quality images than the newer ones, unless it's just like the same reason I want to pickup an old Atari game console, for nostalgia?
Yeah it's largely nostalgia @franknunez7204. But also price, and character. I love the idea that amazing pro cameras are accessible to everyone. They're old, but they do the job as well as they ever did. I've also always found it weird that someone strapped for cash, but wanting to get into photography, will choose a brand new low-end model over a top-of-the-line model from the past. I guess that's just marketing doing it's job. People are just used to this idea that electronic devices aren't any good anymore, after a few years, as though it were a laptop or something. Not so with cameras, in my opinion. I think of buying an old camera as analogous to buying an old car. It works as well as it ever did. Eventually it may even become a classic, and feel special in that way. Someone not so much interested in photography as an art, but rather just capturing photos of their own family, yeah, the modern low-end model makes more sense. It' just depends who we're talking about. And largely, for me, it's about balancing the scale a bit. As technology increases over here, I feel compelled to decrease it over here. But it's a good question. Thanks.
1DS Mk II I recall reading long ago produces images of slightly higher 'resolution' than 35mm film is capable of, you can assume you can blow up any image one of these camera's produces to the same sort of sizes you can blow up 35mm. It's not like a 6mp crop sensor system from 2004 or whatever. Even the current 1DX Mk III only uses 20mp up from 16.7 on the 1DS Mk II. Why such a small increase? Much higher MP means larger files slower speed recording to media, worse performance in low light (noise) and a few other caveats. Though in general an image with much more depth and detail, so trade offs. 1DS Mk II is an old camera now but it was exceptionally bleeding edge tech for the day and surprisingly for an old digital it really holds up if you don't mind the compromises and missing new features in using an older system. I've had mine for years and it still produces great images, autofocus works well, it's great with flash on and off camera and overall its a beast of a camera. I'm tempted to upgrade to the 1DX Mk II now they have come down a bit, but I'm also tempted to get a 1v and have some fun with film once again.... Good job they all use the same excellent glass :D
@@valiskuk hi, in all good spirits, I assume someone told you those resolution figures? They are grossly inaccurate, I know from conducting resolution tests for manufacturers on both 35mm film on even much newer, higher resolution sensors since the 1DD Mk II. You should consider, if this subject is of interest, purchasing a drum scanner from eBay and then conducting your own tests. You will see what I'm talking about once you compare resolution charts side by side.
@@franknunez7204 Hi Frank, yes, it was part of a discussion I had with someone way back in the dark ages of early digital. Thanks for your kind and educational comment. What you've said though has sparked a bit of interest for me so I've been doing a little research myself today on the matter (short of buying a drum scanner, yet) And that limited research suggests very fine grain b&w film may top out at around an equivalent of 35mp capture when scanned on a drum scanner and most b&w film would be capable 20-24mp equiv. But also that a lot of standard colour films would be in the 10-20mp range due to the drum scanner's high resolution mostly increasing the detail of the grain structure beyond a certain point. Would this roughly meet up with your experiences? As it might well be tempting for me to actually go for the 1v sooner than I had planned and look into a drum scanner. (I always liked B&W and have a mountain of old negatives that might merit me buying one anyway)
@@valiskuk To answer your questions would exceed the scope here, because the right questions have to be asked (ie. pre-informed) in order to achieve your final aesthetic goals. Aesthetic goals usually should be identified first, and they need to be informed and motivated by previous experience in how the medium of choice serves the project or subject matter. In this regard, 35mm is not a good comparison to digital at this point because one can capture more scene/image detail with a select few digital solutions than most film stock/developer combinations (excepting exotic and custom emulsion and developer formulae). If the goal is final resolution (this has a particular meaning, google it if not yet familiar) detail only, you should explore low ASA medium format film as an alternative to digital overall. But in reality, final resolution is often used as a marketing mechanism as it applies to most photographers' in the target markets, not as an actual solution to people achieving more effective aesthetic devices (photographs). If your application *appears* to require maximum final resolution (but you're not sure), I suggest you explore other metrics like MTF, and take some deep dives into optics to begin to approach identifying your ideal platform. Sorry if I'm being vague or confusing, this is a very depthful subject. Why not share some of what you hope to accomplish, and I'll try to respond in a way that addresses solutions based on experience with both mediums at their absolute extreme limits/capabilities. Please identify if you would factors like time budget/convenience per frame (ie. how long are you willing to put into taking a single photograph from a medium requirement perspective, and processing afterwards - this could range from 30 seconds to 2 days or more in darkroom/computer/or hybrid workflow - not kidding about the latter), what do you want the photograph to ultimately do (serve a function in respect to representational fidelity of subject matter - and spatially or in color or both, or compel maximum viewer engagement incl. emotionally), and how much per frame for your selected finals which you intend to realize in their final form (print/screen/other) are you hoping to spend budgetwise, and lastly, are you experienced with film, do you have a darkroom and ability to create custom developer formulae? These are scratching the surface only, I hope this begins to reveal the depth and scope of what's required to make real gains towards a decision around a platform/medium.
Cool, thanks. Well it may come up again. I'm still stalking this camera. Just need to pay off some debt first. As I have come to understand, this is a fairly common problem with this model... which is such a shame. Obviously it's too old for Canon to work on it, but perhaps a local shop could do it for me.
@@NicholasHornbrook no worries, I had the mkiii and mine had this issue. Mine was a far more pronounced/obvious issue. Canon repaired it for free around 2016 through Fixation in London.
Great video, music, visuals, locations..
This by no means is hate towards Canon, but they struggled with oil being tossed on the sensors for years. This is why I went with Nikon so many years ago aside from the lenses. I met a guy who was using that same camera. I also met a girl who was using the Canon 5D. I was using a Canon Powershot G6. I knew them for a few years, and shot a couple gigs together.
Both of them generated oil on the sensor that had to constantly be corrected in post. I saved up, and bought a Nikon D200. That camera still works, with well over 1m clicks and is being used by my friend sister for real estate.
The only Nikon I've had an oil problem with was the D300. I've heard the D600 has an oil problem. The D3s, and Df I owned never had an oil problem. Now I'm back to the D200 b/c it just makes perfect skin tones. Large, Basic, Optimal Jpeg looks and nearly edits exactly like the raw file, so I don't even shoot raw at all anymore.
It's a professional 35mm camera there was no compromise when this was on the drawing board peck Canon.
The highest resolution camera up till that time.
❤ This should become a series. Adventures in buying used gear. Love!
Once in a while you come across a camera channel that feels like a breath of fresh air. This is one of them. Loved the video, sorry to hear about these ongoing bad purchases
I came here to say this… Well, sort of. Utterly Gobsmacked!
I got one in the mail today… well TWO actually. I got a 1ds mark 2 and a 1d mark 2 off eBay with a charger for a price that I won’t disclose… it was too good.
I’ve wanted this body for years and years. Today’s been a good day. Both batteries are holding a great charge and both bodies are working. The 1ds has 16000 on it and is in prestige condition. The 1d is a little long in the tooth but has been functioning great.
Thank you for making this video. It really helped me pull the trigger.
I agree with everything you said. Late last year I bought a 5D Mark II and it is a beast and take really amazing photos, I have an SL3 that is 24mp and the 5D Mark II kicks it right in the balls every time. Love the vid.
Using that 5D mkii since it was released! More than 15 years shooting with it, already.
Around 700.000 photos shot with the camera. (I own three of them, hehe)
If you don't shoot astro photography and don't need super fast autofocussing, the camera is still on the same level as a modern fullframe camera.
(Ok, dynamic range is a bit weaker, if you shoot such scenes, but I do exposure bracketing in night shots etc. anyway. ISO performance is good enough until ISO 3200, together with modern denoise software, but I rarely go over ISO 800 anyway or I use a tripod)
I've had one of these for over 8 years. Its autofocus is incredibly accurate, better than many newer cameras I've used. 16.7MP is more than enough. The two handed controls aren't a problem as I have a total of three Canon bodies which use the same system, though some people struggle when coming to one of these from a modern body. The big downsides are the lack of built in sensor cleaning - that sensor picks up crap so easily. The short battery life, especially in the cold. And the tiny buffer by modern standards, if you're attempting to shoot any kind of action. Mine also produces that odd line effect at the edge of the frame in some images. But it's still a great bit of kit, even at almost 20 years old. Canon obviously threw everything at this one, back in the day when they used to innovate and not just coast along.
I remember picking up this camera and the 1D-mk II from the shelf at Yodobashi Umeda in Osaka, Japan, back in 2004. The thing felt solid in my hand. Somthing Phil Greenspun would shoot with. I also felt I could never afford it (at then prices and my financial condition then). But I still remember. Today's kids shooting with tiny mirrorless / girlie boy cameras have no idea what real cameras felt like.
The camera stores in Tokyo 2005 blew my mind.
That camera was for sure a great work horse and true testoman's huge workhorse, but what makes cameras these days girlie boy cameras? Too good and too small? I bought 1D-mk II 2005 and to be honest, I like much more modern cameras.
Okay boomer
Awesome video. Keep making content like this!
I actually just got the 1Ds Mk III a week ago. I love it! KEH camera, 39k shutter, 500 bucks.
What a great video! Sorry the body did not workout for you. In 2021, I bought a Canon 5DMkIV for work with the idea I would finish the assignment and immediately sell it. I was shooting Sony mirrorless at the time. Felt so good my large hands really loved the files and skin tones. Oh well since I’m going sell it, I thought why not find a inexpensive older Canon just to have for fun. I find a 1Ds Mark III in the used counter at my local camera store. The colors, the feel of that body, Portraits, landscapes are just special. I really don’t know what Canon did with to that sensor, I just wish they would make something that special again. Oh kept the 5DMK4 too, bought a Canon R in 2023. I mainly shoot Canon now!
I had one in 2010, and really enjoyed it! Then bough the 1Ds Mk3 year later, which is great update, and still have it today 13 years later ;-)
Talking of dirty cameras, there are plenty of examples in our favourite auction sites of cameras that are filthy, dusty, fingered marked, etc where the seller just couldn't be bothered cleaning the camera they are selling. In general, most used cameras for sale are reasonably clean and presentable.
Another great video, narrated in a truly grounded way. Another niggle, where a seller says "selling as untested as I've no batteries", when quite clearly the camera runs on AA cells, I mean, what the f#&*k.
Regards Rob (UK)
Narration, editing, composition. Nice video.
One of these days I'll grab the Nikon D2Hs. I'm thinking it'll be my primary social media weekend camera. Gonna shoot race cars.
This is why I only buy old manual cameras
I can't believe how bad your luck is. I've been buying used cameras for years now and never had any issues like you've experienced, but now I'm terrified to look harder at them. Part of me wants to blame the fact that these are very old professional bodies, exposed to probably lots of abuse and unfavorable conditions, I don't understand how you went 0/3.
#NicholasHornbrook Holly heavens! What a mess-cave that sensor! I have 1D mark II N since a month. I have checked it and oh no I have to do cleaning too. Maybe not so much as yours but still. I say you did GREAT JOB with your sensor! Regards!
You're making be get my 1ds out of storage and start shooting with it again . How are you dealing with the battery issues?
Feel like I’m watching the camera review version of Max Payne…
Bro, this! Exactly this! 😂
great with old manual lenses too! i've been playing with some 28mm etc, fun! great vid, thanks :)
Jesus man, make us all feel ancient 😅
Just get a 5D classic and be done with it. :)
Having both… this is like the 5d classic but better. Oh so better.
Good call. The 5dc is awesome
Yes, hummmmmm. New title suggestion: MPB Is The Worst.
I have the same issue with my 1DX right now. It's at the top of the frame, then on the left side in the portrait orientation. I really only noticed it shooting at like f/1.8 or f/2.8. I can easily crop it, but it''s annoying. KEH said they won't take it back because it was an "ugly" rated body.
I'm a bit confused as to what's to like about any digital camera that produces lesser quality images than the newer ones, unless it's just like the same reason I want to pickup an old Atari game console, for nostalgia?
Yeah it's largely nostalgia @franknunez7204. But also price, and character. I love the idea that amazing pro cameras are accessible to everyone. They're old, but they do the job as well as they ever did. I've also always found it weird that someone strapped for cash, but wanting to get into photography, will choose a brand new low-end model over a top-of-the-line model from the past. I guess that's just marketing doing it's job. People are just used to this idea that electronic devices aren't any good anymore, after a few years, as though it were a laptop or something. Not so with cameras, in my opinion. I think of buying an old camera as analogous to buying an old car. It works as well as it ever did. Eventually it may even become a classic, and feel special in that way. Someone not so much interested in photography as an art, but rather just capturing photos of their own family, yeah, the modern low-end model makes more sense. It' just depends who we're talking about. And largely, for me, it's about balancing the scale a bit. As technology increases over here, I feel compelled to decrease it over here. But it's a good question. Thanks.
1DS Mk II I recall reading long ago produces images of slightly higher 'resolution' than 35mm film is capable of, you can assume you can blow up any image one of these camera's produces to the same sort of sizes you can blow up 35mm. It's not like a 6mp crop sensor system from 2004 or whatever.
Even the current 1DX Mk III only uses 20mp up from 16.7 on the 1DS Mk II. Why such a small increase? Much higher MP means larger files slower speed recording to media, worse performance in low light (noise) and a few other caveats. Though in general an image with much more depth and detail, so trade offs.
1DS Mk II is an old camera now but it was exceptionally bleeding edge tech for the day and surprisingly for an old digital it really holds up if you don't mind the compromises and missing new features in using an older system. I've had mine for years and it still produces great images, autofocus works well, it's great with flash on and off camera and overall its a beast of a camera. I'm tempted to upgrade to the 1DX Mk II now they have come down a bit, but I'm also tempted to get a 1v and have some fun with film once again.... Good job they all use the same excellent glass :D
@@valiskuk hi, in all good spirits, I assume someone told you those resolution figures? They are grossly inaccurate, I know from conducting resolution tests for manufacturers on both 35mm film on even much newer, higher resolution sensors since the 1DD Mk II. You should consider, if this subject is of interest, purchasing a drum scanner from eBay and then conducting your own tests. You will see what I'm talking about once you compare resolution charts side by side.
@@franknunez7204 Hi Frank, yes, it was part of a discussion I had with someone way back in the dark ages of early digital.
Thanks for your kind and educational comment.
What you've said though has sparked a bit of interest for me so I've been doing a little research myself today on the matter (short of buying a drum scanner, yet)
And that limited research suggests very fine grain b&w film may top out at around an equivalent of 35mp capture when scanned on a drum scanner and most b&w film would be capable 20-24mp equiv.
But also that a lot of standard colour films would be in the 10-20mp range due to the drum scanner's high resolution mostly increasing the detail of the grain structure beyond a certain point.
Would this roughly meet up with your experiences?
As it might well be tempting for me to actually go for the 1v sooner than I had planned and look into a drum scanner.
(I always liked B&W and have a mountain of old negatives that might merit me buying one anyway)
@@valiskuk To answer your questions would exceed the scope here, because the right questions have to be asked (ie. pre-informed) in order to achieve your final aesthetic goals. Aesthetic goals usually should be identified first, and they need to be informed and motivated by previous experience in how the medium of choice serves the project or subject matter. In this regard, 35mm is not a good comparison to digital at this point because one can capture more scene/image detail with a select few digital solutions than most film stock/developer combinations (excepting exotic and custom emulsion and developer formulae). If the goal is final resolution (this has a particular meaning, google it if not yet familiar) detail only, you should explore low ASA medium format film as an alternative to digital overall. But in reality, final resolution is often used as a marketing mechanism as it applies to most photographers' in the target markets, not as an actual solution to people achieving more effective aesthetic devices (photographs). If your application *appears* to require maximum final resolution (but you're not sure), I suggest you explore other metrics like MTF, and take some deep dives into optics to begin to approach identifying your ideal platform. Sorry if I'm being vague or confusing, this is a very depthful subject. Why not share some of what you hope to accomplish, and I'll try to respond in a way that addresses solutions based on experience with both mediums at their absolute extreme limits/capabilities. Please identify if you would factors like time budget/convenience per frame (ie. how long are you willing to put into taking a single photograph from a medium requirement perspective, and processing afterwards - this could range from 30 seconds to 2 days or more in darkroom/computer/or hybrid workflow - not kidding about the latter), what do you want the photograph to ultimately do (serve a function in respect to representational fidelity of subject matter - and spatially or in color or both, or compel maximum viewer engagement incl. emotionally), and how much per frame for your selected finals which you intend to realize in their final form (print/screen/other) are you hoping to spend budgetwise, and lastly, are you experienced with film, do you have a darkroom and ability to create custom developer formulae? These are scratching the surface only, I hope this begins to reveal the depth and scope of what's required to make real gains towards a decision around a platform/medium.
I think you issue you have with your mkii is shutter bounce!
This was a known issue for the 1DS mkiii.
FYI, the fix for ‘shutter bounce’ was/is to replace the shutter.
I know this doesn’t matter for you now as you sent it back 😊
Cool, thanks. Well it may come up again. I'm still stalking this camera. Just need to pay off some debt first. As I have come to understand, this is a fairly common problem with this model... which is such a shame. Obviously it's too old for Canon to work on it, but perhaps a local shop could do it for me.
@@NicholasHornbrook no worries, I had the mkiii and mine had this issue. Mine was a far more pronounced/obvious issue. Canon repaired it for free around 2016 through Fixation in London.
I too like old shit and new shit! Just bought a 1DS Mkii waiting for it to arrive in the post.
Your voice is very similar to HARRISON FORD
Come on over sir 😅
Get a 5d mark 2.
Ugh its so moody 😂 back up off the mic jeeezuz