Scientists Finally Discover Irish Genetic Origins
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- Situated off the North-Western coast of Europe, Ireland's geographic position promotes genetic uniformity and isolation.Research on ancient Irish genomes indicates that the current Irish genetic landscape was formed approximately 3,500 ago during the Irish Bronze Age.Significant historical migrations to Ireland include the Norse Vikings in the late first millennium, the Norman invasion in the 12th century, and the Plantations of the 16th and 17th centuries.The effect of these migrations on the modern Irish genome remains largely unknown.Y-chromosome and mitochondrial haplotypes common in Ireland show genetic continuity with those found in other western European populations.
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I have to admit that I havn't a bulls notion what you were on about but the pictures looked nice.
glad you enjoyed that part
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😂...me either don't have a 'bulls notion' nor have I heard that expression before and it's hilarious.....to be honest, everything seems backwards today to this 68 year old and I haven't a bulls notion about most of it.
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He never mentioned that Dublin 7 had the highest percentage of fair haired, blue eyed people in the country owing to the original Viking settlement there😁
😂 they put the typical Angol Saxon fair-haired (Aryan) specimen in the frontispiece. However, dark brown hair is the predominant hair colour in Ireland. All the dark-haired James bonds are of Celtic stock and all the blonde blue-eyed James Bonds are of Anglo-Saxon garbage Iranian stock
No they are Jackeens.more to do with the UK
Fingal - fionn gall - the blonde foreigner.
Now the genome is mainly Africa and Asian
@@orionxtc1119lol.
I remember as a kid in Ireland,that brown eyes were very rare .
Not anymore
Increased mixing and diverse backgrounds have definitely added more variety, even in eye color.
I am so sick and tired of having to defend my ethnicity as Irish. I grew up with an Irish name, speaking Irish, playing Irish music in school, and have lineage stretching back centuries, but because I was born in the North if have to deal with ignorant punks telling me what I am. Go hifreann leat go leir.
thanks for sharing your experiences of being an Irish ...
Go hifreann *libh go léir
Don't you worry about those people, they are not worthy, you know how you are, you feel and believe who you are and that is all that matters and is necessary, You are Irish to the backbone, from the top of your head to the tips of your toes, Your heart is Irish, You are one of us so welcome to the parlor, the drinks are on me. God blessings on you, take care
@@jamesbradshaw3389 it was a grammatical correction of the original comment
@@curly-fry-films4408 yes, and a correct one. I respect that.
Portugal & Spain weren't mentioned, yet I remember reading once that the Irish came from the Iberian peninsula.
Originally we came from Tanzania, East Africa
You're spot on about the connection between Ireland and the Iberian Peninsula. While the study might not have mentioned it, there is strong genetic evidence showing links between the Irish and people from regions like Galicia in Spain and northern Portugal.
@@evoinception my DNA shows 1% unknown and I think its from the
Spanish invasion of Galway! My Grandmothers name was Alicia!
@@PatAudreyK thanks for sharing this info and welcome ...
@@PatAudreyK On the west coast, there's a lot of dark haired brown eyed people with sallow skin and this was often attributed to the Spanish Armada. However it's been found recently that the trait was there beforehand, and locals didn't know that the Spanish were there to help, and the few survivors were mostly killed on site. Most of the Armada crews died at sea, very few survived. Well before that occurrence, Corsairs often plundered the south-west coast and took many slaves, but some also stayed - I think a lot of that lineage is from Moorish decent.
My other Grandad was a Tobbogan..he moved to Ireland but it was downhill from then on
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What, downhill you say, you have got to stop him rolling
@@jamesbradshaw3389 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Culture is the main thing mate. My Irish ancestry predicates me for whiskey. Uisce Beatha
Beannachtai
@@cynicalb Slainte mo cara
Culture is down stream from Race. The culture comes from the Race. Change the Race and the culture will change.
@@Occident. I`m Aussie and that`s how i feel and i have many lots in me
Scientists discover what the dogs on the street know
God bless you! I 😅
Very interesting video although the ai voice kept saying "Gaelics" for whatever reason.
I see there have been some criticisms about this being too complicated for the ordinary viewer to understand.
I think you were trying to bridge the gap between being comprehensive and being accessible.
But when you were trying to be so comprehensively accessible I actually think you could have spent an extra minute or two explaining certain points just a little more comprehensively and that would have actually made the whole thing a little more accessible too.
But good job overall although I did go, oh no! when the travellers ended up as a the briefest of footnotes at the very end.
I try to strike a balance between being thorough and keeping things easy to understand, but I see your point about spending a bit more time explaining certain parts. Will definitely keep that in mind for future videos.
I got 100% Irish Gaelic DNA according to my Ancestry.DNA test.
wonderful heritage, thanks for sharing ...
There's nothing isolated about Ireland in terms of Genetics, my DNA is the same as a third of Swedish men today because I've Anglo Norman Heritage, we are very diverse and it made us better and stronger people. The Native Irish are tougher again and could not be conquered by the Normans even after the Normans had just conquered the Saxons
You bring up an excellent point about the genetic diversity and strength of the Irish population. The study indeed acknowledges that while there has been significant genetic mixing in Ireland, there are also unique genetic signatures that reflect historical events and migrations.The findings show that Ireland has a distinct genetic profile with contributions from various groups, including the Norse, Anglo-Normans, and other European populations.
@@evoinception Awesome comment, It really is a unique mix, I saw a tv Program recently about Irish Travellers who are considered to be some of the oldest inhabitants of Ireland, one Traveller man's DNA profile was common to Eastern and Central Europe particularly the Ukrainian Steppe where People first domesticated the Horse. Irish Travellers today have a great affinity with Horses.
Bollocks
Funny how we are al speaking English now isn't it Mr unconquered.
@@celticm6616 you can blame Saxon England for that not the Normans! The Normans were more Irish than the Irish, you missing my point, and no the Gaelic Irish and Irish have never been Conquered and never will be
Judging by your opening map of Europe why is there no Irish in the North East of Ireland
Go on son
Well, I believe cough, cough, there was a plantation of foreigners there ... and a lot of them are still living there.
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@@paulohagan3309 The population of NI is still about 50% Irish or Irish descent.
@@paulohagan3309occupiers just like those in Palestine
we do not use the colonial term British Isles in Ireland
I have noted your point ...
Ireland IS NOT a british isle
😅 3:50 @tomtomftube it's just geography
@@Irish780 its not geography. real geography is the island of britain and the island of ireland are situated close to each other but they are separate entities
Because the Brits ( god love them) still believe they have an empire 😁
My great granny was Irish. My grandad (her son) and my dad (his son) had green eyes, so do I but my sisters are grey/blue like my Nannas.
thanks for sharing the rather diverse and beautiful eye colors in your family , in the end they all look beautiful ...
@@dulciemidwinter1925 I have 4 different colors in my eyes I don’t know who I got them off
@nicholahenry539 What colours are they, and what is the dominant one? It sounds really interesting. Perhaps the person who set this site up can help if you can give that information.
@@dulciemidwinter1925 I have hazel grey blue and green there isn’t a more dominant color not that I can see anyway my mum and dad both had brown eyes I got my dads blood RN.
@@nicholahenry539 They must be very beautiful.
I have been told that my family are Irish to the backbone, from head to toe, we are connected to several of the great kings and warriors of Ireland including Niall Noígíallach, Niall of the Nine Hostage, with this proof I think that I will start looking for any land or castles that still belong to our family but are in the use of other peoples hands, I will be fair and reasonable when I come knocking, me and my gang will not act like the brutal invading English/British did, I will not drive or push people off our lands immediately, I will look around and only take over the most beautiful parts which have got good scenery, I will also at places with good boating and fishing but I will not be greedy, I will also share my new found places with others who wish to come and see and stay for a day or two but I will not be offering and foods, no meals, I and not a good cook, so bring your own lunch
sounds like you’ve got it all planned out ...
@@evoinception Ha Ha, almost, I have yet to find the right horse
I’m English of Irish heritage.
Please remember it was the NORMANS, not the English who invaded and, before them the Romans and, just before the Normans, the Vikings.
@@enkisdaughter4795 There is no escape, you are one of us and you are very welcome to the party
@@jamesbradshaw3389 Donkeys work better in Ireland--they cart the turf!!!
This video ignores ancient Irish history and legends, like Tuatha te Danaan: the tribe of Dan ex Israel were great traders and seafarers who travelled with the Phoenicians. The prophet Jeremiah took the Judean princess there Tea Tephi. It is a very interesting background
thanks for your perspective, this was mostly on genetics ...
this so true after he was in Panama hind the ark there here proof TOMB OF LEHI i ve been doing the reseach for long time
I am ukranian 4% Irish and I live in Australia, that part of my blood saves my life
thanks for sharing this info, you have wonderful legacy ...
Thank God, if you feel Irish then you are one of us, Welcome to the parlor
This summary of genetic research, similar to many others available on the Web, is stuffed with jargon and leaves me without any knowledge of the result of research.
All I hear are lots of words, the definitions of which I am unsure or, more frequently, clueless.
For example, at the beginning we are informed that the population has been isolated for the last 5000 years. For the rest of the report, we get an unending series of discussions of mixtures.
I get how all the jargon can be overwhelming. The main takeaway from the research is that the Irish population has been quite isolated for around 5,000 years, meaning there wasn't much mixing with other groups. But, interestingly, there have been specific instances of mixing, especially with Vikings and the British.The study found distinct genetic groups within Ireland that match historical and geographical regions, showing how different parts of Ireland have kept their unique genetic identities. One interesting finding is the significant Norwegian ancestry in the Irish population, which is likely due to Viking activities in Ireland. There are also mixed Irish and British genetic groups, especially in Northern Ireland, reflecting historical migrations.
Without the "jargon" it would have been 4x longer, easily. I had to really listen to hear the jargon.
When you're listening to a video about what scientists have discovered about genetics you're going to hear a lot about *haplogroups* and *genetic clusters*.
thanks for the warning
@@evoinception The genetic results, it appears, simply confirm what we already know from well-documented history -- the Vikings invaded and occupied western Ireland; the Scots migrated to northern Ireland; the soldiers of Cromwell and other English occupiers have ruled central Ireland for centuries prior to independence.
@@meofamily4 not "we" , you can say "you know", many people are new to this genetics field and might want this info
I'm of completely Irish heritage, but I I dislike alcohol and I don't 'drink'???
There are plenty of Irish like that or at least there used to be. Proportionally at one time, it was one of the largest teetotal nations in Europe. But far too many of us really overdo it.
I Don't Like Getting Drunk. I Am. 78 Percent Irish Also Welsh , Scottish, German. Viking,
You must be a mutant😊
Irish Lives Matter #IrishLivesMatter
are you serious, this is not a political commentary or emotion issue based channel, its cold genetics that is discussed here ...
#Admixture matters.
I'm with you. Irish Lives Matter. Stop oppressing us with this pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo and just pour us another Irish Spirit.
The Vikings thought they were uber chads until they met the Irish in Clontarf. Gaels 1 Vikings 0. Whiskey was invented to stop the Irish taking over the world.
Actually, Vikings fought on both sides at the Battle of Clontarf
Excellent video!
thanks for your kind words and support to channel ...
23 and me 👍 knew I had 50% Irish ☘️ genes when it came back I was 98% Irish and 2% scandi the rest was traces from Syria 🇸🇾 and India 🇮🇳 I have pale skin freckles and curly hair 👍 lol 😂
you carry wonderful legacy, thanks for sharing ...
They put the Syrian and Indian DNA in to eff with your head. It's fake.
Im 63% irish 37% scottish
wonderful legacy you carry, thanks for sharing ...
@@evoinception thankyou 😁
What’s the difference
@@mackfin8869 Google it
@@mackfin8869Perhaps because they’re different countries, Irish did come to Scotland, but you have the Pictish people already inhabiting Scotland prior to the Norse people arriving. The Scottish also defeated the Romans.
Here's a thought which I find interesting. When as youngster in the armed forces I had a good drinking mate who was Jewish, his ancestors came to this country running from some long forgotten progrom in Europe he had only heard vague tales about. As far as he was concerned he was a Londoner end of story.
He explained to me that Jewishness can only be handed down through the female line and explained why. The Jews being the pragmatic race they are figured out it takes a clever person to work out who their father is or might be but it's a lot simpler to know who the mother is........ how's that for ancient logic, pragmatism, realism.
On leave from my unit I just happened to be talking to my Dad about my mate and I mentioned his name (a rare name in Britain) He asked me to ask my mate if he was related in any way to a Jewish lad he served alongside in the forties who also had that name. On asking my mate it turned out our Dad's had been shared more than a few falling down waters in the same unit all those decades ago also.
thanks for sharing this wonderful experience you had ...
Ok, the mystery has been solved. Beaker from the Muppets has red hair! (Sorry)
thanks for your comment ...
I have a Gael surname. Born on Tyneside UK. My Recent DNA test revealed me to be 55% Irish. 40% Scots. 5% Germanic Europe. I have light blue eyes and Dark brown hair.
you are carrying a wonderful legacy, thanks for sharing ...
Where did you find that out
@@evoinceptionThank you Mo Chara. Iv passed it on. I have 11 Children, and 21 Grandchildren and counting.
@@garrethmaher2175Done a DNA test 5 years ago. My wife and Daughter did too. Since then my daughter has extensively researched our family history. Including getting in touch with people thru the DNA website who are related to us. Some in America and Australia. Two ancestors fled the famine of the 1840s. Met in Wales. Married and moved to N/E England and had 21 Children. All their children had huge families too. There's thousands of us across England and America , and Australia etc.
You are still one of us, Welcome to the parlor
My dna result is 80% Irish/British going back to the 1400s with ancient genetic correlations in Spain , Hungary and Scandinavia
very interesting, you carry wonderful legacy, thanks for sharing ..
That's cool.
Has the effect of consistent genetic/ethnic cleansing in the Ulster region since 17thC been taken into account?
That's a very pertinent question. The study does consider historical events, including the Ulster Plantations in the 17th century, which significantly impacted the genetic makeup of the region. The research identifies distinct clusters with shared Irish and British ancestry, particularly in Northern Ireland, reflecting these historical admixture events.
Nearly half the population in Ulster are native Irish
When mentioning the Scots, in terms of relationships with Ireland, there should be an explanation on the distinction between the people of the Lowlands and Highlands. Culturally, linguistically and ethnically.
that is a point worth noting
In another study it found strong connections with Northern Spain to the south west of Ireland.
You're absolutely right. There is indeed evidence of strong genetic connections between the southwest of Ireland and the Basque region of Northern Spain. This link likely dates back to ancient migrations during the Mesolithic and Neolithic periods. The Atlantic seaboard route facilitated the movement of people, and as a result, genetic similarities can be found between populations in these regions.
@@evoinceptionI’m a quarter Irish : Slattery family from Southern Ireland.
The dna of my family on that side is an admixture of predominantly Irish with Italian and Iberian (Spanish and Basque).
Something happened in Ireland that isn’t researched thoroughly enough… something to do with the Black Irish.
The Irish side of my family all have black hair, thick curls, green or brown eyes and pale to olive skin (dependant on where they live). What could this mean?
Also called O’Slatterie
@@danteleone2787those type are quite rare....I never even the term, black Irish, until I got the internet...
Tradition has it that some from the Spanish Armada were washed ashore.
I have a few 4+ cm SNPS in common with Rathlin 1, 2, and Ballynahatty woman, the most being with Rathlin 1. I’ve always felt the so called black Irish of Connacht were older Irish. Seeing the study validate that is satisfying. My great grandmother was born on Inishmore in The Aran Islands. I have highland DNA too from N. Uist as well, which is also part of that ancient population.
Thank you so much for doing this. It goes to show you how mixed up the west of Europe really is. It makes me feel like there is truth in the book of invasions.
thanks for sharing this info and your continued interactions with topics on channel ,means a lot ...
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Irish are the most Indo-European country in Europe, the people go back 4000 years.
See: son of manu.
definitely agree with the black Irish going further back in history, the people who built new grange were not white skinned
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They were Iberians, who had populated most of Europe - Early European Farmers.
In Ireland, 98% were replaced by the Indo-Europeans (Rathlin man).
But in Britain they made a comeback and replaced half of the Indo-Europeans!
- which is why the British are darker than the Irish - Black British.
Does Bellina Hatty, referred to in the subtitles, equate with Ballynahatty ?
yes, referring to Irish Neolithic Ballynahatty
@@evoinception It is pronounced bally-na-hatty.
I am 99.8 percent Irish per 23 and me. I am also fourth gen American my family didn’t hook up outside their group apparently.
thanks for sharing your wonderful heritage ...
There's a name for that. We have it in Tasmania too.
I just found out my DNA is 98.8% Irish!! I've never even been to Ireland!! Obviously that trip's on the cards now!
I also found out I had 0.2 to 0.6% match to 16 different viking remains and they're all pretty much in a line from Sweden to Norway to Orkney!
98.8% Irish, you are almost full Irish like me
Sounds like a trip to Ireland is definitely in order to connect with your roots.
Levi’s genes are cool
do you have any questions in mind ?
Lots of corridors flowing with Jeans 😅
So where did the population from 5000 to 3500 years ago originate? Is it true that there are genetic connections to the Black Sea region and even Egypt?
The population in Ireland from 5,000 to 3,500 years ago is believed to have origins linked to various migrations across Europe. Genetic studies suggest that there were significant movements of people during the Neolithic and Bronze Ages, contributing to the genetic makeup of the Irish population.There is evidence of genetic connections between ancient populations in Ireland and those from regions around the Black Sea and even further afield. Some of these migrations could have brought influences from as far as the Black Sea region, though direct connections to Egypt are less clear.
first modern humans in Europe incl. Ireland were European hunter-gatherers who moved in during the last ice age. Then, in early Neolithic, after the last Ice ended 10k years ago, Anatolian farmers started to spread to Europe from the fertile crescent, where agriculture was invented. The whole process took several thousand of years before they reached Ireland. These people were then mostly replaced in early bronze age, the period you refer to, by Indo-Europeans, in several waves. First, pre-Celtic Bell Beakers of Indo-European origin, then maybe a 1500 year later, the Celts arrived, introducing the Iron age to Ireland. Celts were mostly Ra1 central Europeans, but the Irish have some of the highest R1b y-haplogroup %, indicating the Celts may have been a rather small group when entering Ireland, and the Irish language spread via elite adoption and not a mass scale immigration. In terms of haplogroups or even blood types, the Irish are most similar to the people of the Atlantic coast of France and even norther Spain (Basque region in particular).
@@pavelandel1538 This did not happen: "the Irish language spread via elite adoption." Have you ever tried to learn the Irish language? Do you know what linguistic eclipsis is? Irish is only properly learned at one's mother's knee.
When Indo-Europeans mass migrated to Ireland in 4500 BCE they likely spoke an Indo-European language and after thousands of years of isolation the language is still spoken by some descendants of the migration. We call them and their language "Irish."
The first Indo-Europeans in Ireland weren't the Irish, but an earlier, related group speaking some sort of proto-indo-european language (celtic hasn't formed yet by then), the Irish proper came 1500 years or so later, speaking early Irish, so both languages would have been distantly related, anyway.
They is MORE irish dna in Iceland due to women taken to Iceland for breeding
Good choice!
Brave men! Irish women are feisty. I know, I am one!
@@lavignemorte really more Norse Dna in Ireland, The Norse Sold the indigenous Irish in the African slave markets as Whyte women brought the best price.
@dunkirk1581 Yes, I've read about that sorry state of affairs, but I didn't know about Iceland taking people too. 🤔
@@lavignemorte Iceland = Norse, invaded Ireland in the 6th century to 11 or 12 century.
This is all incorrect now as so many overseas people have arrived in Ireland recently 😮😮😮
True, and this applies to most of the western world and the americas
It is clearly discussing the native population, not immigrants.
They are here for welfare access purposes. Not sure how attractive that would reflect in planned or selective creation.
The climate will sort them out. They will have pale skin and blue eyes in no time.
It's called "Making the world less diverse by making Ireland more diverse."
I have mostly Irish Scottish Welsh then English and Scandinavian. I also have RH blood the same as my dad and younger daughter. I have red hair it is not as red as it use to be and my eye colours are blue green grey and hazel. My mum and dad both had brown eyes so I don’t know where my eye colour comes from. I knew I was Irish and Scottish and English I didn’t know about the Welsh and Scandinavian
wonderful legacy, thanks for sharing
I am truly blessed
Im 97 % Irish and the rest welsh and Scottish.
That is some legacy as well
The good blood rhisus negative
I don't know why they bother putting all the effort in to making these videos, they literally could not explain the data in a less clear way. Try breaking the videos down into smaller chunks or topics and then try to summarise what it is you are trying to say or communicate. Failing that try and communicate it to a third party and then get them to present the information. The narrators tone also is not conducive to absorbing the information.
have you ever heard, perfection is enemy of good, many people new to genetics might find this info useful, scientific research contains many terms that i try and simplify, you really think i should wait for the perfect moment to give people this info, many do find this useful right now ....
@@evoinception I'm sure the content is brilliant, but being brilliant at what you do is a different skill to being able to teach. Maybe a way to do it is get a third party someone who has limited scientific knowledge to watch your video and then get them to explain back what they have watched. I think I heard someone say or use the expression if you can't explain what you are trying to say clearly to an eight year old in ten minutes or less then you haven't explained it clearly. I have been watching a lecturer who's videos might not be as good as yours in terms of detail but it is presented brilliantly for the lay person, I will find her name
@@user-jp5rv1fs2j Absolutely. Invariably, experts are the very worst teachers. You are devoid of communication skills. Zero empathy. And help those new to genetics? You are massively delusional; consult a good communicator as user suggests.
Finally! We can put to bed the myth that Irish people descended from potatoes!
Sir Walter Raleigh brought the potato to Ireland from Delaware, USA
@@PatAudreyK fascinating!
Not completely - look at Wayne Rooney (bless his scoring socks!)
Scotland and Northen Ireland have very similar DNA!
This is largely due to historical migrations and interactions, including the settlement of Scots in Ulster during the Ulster Plantations.
@@evoinception It's almost entirely down to the ulster plantations. The link between Ulster and scotland is the lowlands of scotland which are largely of germanic origins. The highlanders are closer genetically to the southern Irish than the northern Irish.
Irish ,English, Greek and Circassians are all connected DNA
The Irish, English, Greeks, and Circassians all have complex histories that include a mix of influences from various ancient peoples.
For example, Indo-European migrations thousands of years ago contributed to the genetic makeup of many European populations, including the Greeks and those in the British Isles. Additionally, ancient trade routes and conquests spread genes across regions, leading to shared genetic markers between different groups.
Absolutely correct.
I'm Sparticus 😊
Haha, well met, Spartacus!
Your not
Sparticus autisticus, as in the Ian Dury song
No, I'm Spartacus
We all came from adam and eve and noahs family after the flood . We all spread out into the different countries when God mixed up the languages . Tribe of Dan. Went to denmark.
this study did not explore any other aspect other then genetics ...
What a wonderful fairytail.
We go on and on about genes. My relatives are mixed, and ALL of them quoted that blind, crippled and/or crazy quote often. We are ALL basically who was in the room together when the lights went out! Just boots a knocking everywhere!
you make a good points but genetics has benefits not just to understand our past and know about our ancestors but also in many other fields ...
Why are they using all those old pre famine photos for God sake, what is wrong with using modern photos of groups of Irish people like they do in similar videos on same subject.
i like people to not forget the dark times ...
Many believe red hair originates from Ireland and was inherited from Neanderthals, so a video on this subject would be fascinating. My limited understanding is that no modern humans carry the same MC1R pigment mutation Neanderthals had, but not sure if this is accurate. Perhaps some interesting future content...
Basically, I’ve always heard that we inherited the red haired gene from our East Asian ancestors
the specific MC1R mutation responsible for red hair in Neanderthals is different from the one found in modern humans, so yes you are right, i will look in to this for future episodes, thanks for your interest in topic and support to channel ...
@@fishybusinessco.8398 Same here, but you'd be surprised how many still believe that myth along with the mistaken perception modern humans inherited blue eyes from Neanderthals. It's because Neanderthal portrayals often show reddish hair and blue eyes, unfortunately.
There's that russian republic with highest occurence of redheads in the world.
No, the Irish are closely related to the Dufch - and they have plenty of red hair. It must have come with the Bell Beaker people.
Anyway, the Neanderthrals were never in Ireland!
I'm 72.6% British and Irish according to my 23 & me. 25% German & French & etc the rest. I have an olive skin tone, green eyes, and dark brown hair. So this is interesting.
thanks for sharing this wonderful info ...and welcome
Spell "trouble" however you will. It's still "trouble."
what exactly is your point here ?
So we finally know who the father was!!!!! Awesome 😎
My Ancestry DNA said I was 25% Swedish/Danish along with the 60% Irish. I expected about that %Irish but I guess the S/D must represent the Vikings.
you carry some wonderful legacy, thanks for sharing ...
Irish people are my favourite.
thanks for your interest in topic ...
I don't believe that there is anyone who can, looking only eleven generations back, find vikings in his ancestry.
Actually, it’s quite possible to trace Viking ancestry even as far back as eleven generations.
@@evoinception You mistake my comment. I can trace my own ancestry back ten generations: all the way to - the Seventeenth Century. Getting back as far as the Viking times would be a lot more generations.
Dont knoe where goure getting your information but Irelands oldest sport is 3,000 yrs old , we had the Aonach Tailteann , a festival held at Tara from 632BC combining games, music, dance and song, older than the Olympic games. We have monuments older than stonehenge and the Pyramids of Giza. And bodies of humsns over 5000 years old have been found all over Ireland. . So, you can get that 3,000 years out of your brain and actually study the facts first.
Ah, I get where you're coming from. The study's focus is really on the genetic side of things, looking at how the DNA has shaped up over the last few thousand years. When they mention the 3,000 years, they're talking about the genetic landscape during the Bronze Age, not dismissing the rich history. Those ancient festivals, monuments older than Stonehenge, and all that good stuff. This genetic research just adds another layer to how deeply rooted and diverse the heritage is.
@@evoinception
The heritage is NOT diverse - it is anything but diverse! - can you get your head around that?
Ancestry tells me I'm 53% irish (munster) and 23% Scottish
you carry a wonderful legacy, thanks for sharing and welcome to community ...
Im Irish and my blood line comes from Greece/Turkey.
thanks for sharing the info ...
Tou may live in Ireland, have an Irish passport, but you are not Irish
@@joseveintegenario-nisu1928 That's amazing i was borne here my entire family was borne here dating back as fare as any of them can remember but I'm not irish.
@@sadclown887 Tou know that both in Japan and in Switzerland, being born there does not grant you citizenship, just a stage permit.
An old proverb said: 'Cows are not from it were born, but from were it graze'
Citizenship is a roman empire concept, this was a bloody nation.
Communists kill by starvation, Rome killed with swords
@@joseveintegenario-nisu1928 "Tou", I am one of them, I have been living in Ireland since 1999.
I think there has been too much immigration to Ireland the last 10 years - there should be a healthy middle way
Hold on, there has been settlements in Ireland over 10,000 years , were is he getting the 3,500 yrs? Straight off the mark this is way off.
the 3,500 year reference in the study specifically relates to the formation of the modern Irish genetic landscape, which was significantly shaped during the Bronze Age.
Check out Bob Quinn's docco Atlantean
Irish Native here from county Cork..
Though I have no Saxon DNA some Irish here do...
I myself am Norse-Gael 🇮🇪 🇧🇻 76% Irish 24% Norwegian
The Norse-Gaels (Old Irish: Gall-Goídil; Irish: Gall-Ghaeil; Scottish Gaelic: Gall-Ghàidheil, 'foreigner-Gaels') were a people of mixed Gaelic and Norse ancestry and culture. They emerged in the Viking Age, when Vikings who settled in Ireland and in Scotland became Gaelicised and intermarried with Gaels.
It's common for people with Irish heritage to have British Isles DNA in their ancestry results due to centuries of colonization, immigration, and exploration. During the 18th century, the English established the Kingdom of Ireland and intermingled with the Irish, replacing Irish Catholics with Protestants. People from the British Isles, which includes Ireland, Great Britain, the Isle of Man, the Hebrides, and the Northern Isles, share a common genetic history and have moved around the region a lot over the past few hundred years. This means that even people with deep roots in a specific area can still have Irish ancestry in their ethnicity estimate, especially if that area is close to Ireland
You're spot on about the British Isles DNA showing up in ancestry results. Centuries of colonization, immigration, and movement within the region mean that genetic histories are deeply intertwined.
irish Descendant in Australia here- I have 67% Irish Dna and 33%Scottish. My father has 75% Irish, a smidge of English/Scandinavian and some scottish. My son has inherited 3% Scandinavian from me (although it doesn't register in my DNA). His father was english so his DNA is about 40% Irish, 6% Scandinavian, smidge of scottish and then english.. i can't remember the exact amounts either way the Irish runs strong in the blood of many aussies because the Irish Catholics only married other Irish Catholics. edited to say one of my lines is from Cork, another from Dublin, Crookstown, Tipperary and County Clare, and of course Antrim.
@@thevocalcrone Commercial dna tests aren't really accurate at showing admixture in populations. They only compare you against panels of people that have long term ancestry in a country so all the admixture that happened previously would become part of that population. You could be 100% Irish but that's because you match the Irish samples. It doesn't show something like Viking dna from 1000 years ago that is what dna studies like the one discussed in this video is doing. Commercial dna tests only go back about 6 to 8 generations and will depend how much you match the present day samples.
You've got to do something about those gene flow barriers 🤔.
Gene flow barriers are a bit tricky to move around, but they sure make for some interesting history and science 😄
I pray for my beloved Ireland that the women especially and young men keep away from mixing and try to stay true to their own folks. ❤
Well, that won't help the haemochromatosis [the 'Celtic Curse'] issue now, will it?
@@paulohagan3309or the very high prevalence of genetic defects like asthma, cystic fibrosis or multiple sclerosis. Also Crohn’s disease.
Ah inbreeding, a sport the whole family can enjoy!
@@gabhanachdenogla8342😂😂
Too late, I'm here , me ma is Irish , thanks be to God.
😁 but I get your concerns.
Celts are basically paternally Y-dna haplogroup R1b. Slavs are R1a. Turks are haplogroup Q. All of them are Cimmerians, haplogroup P. Maternally, many of them are mt-dna U or H, branches of haplogroup N,,, Amazons.
My mother in law is downstream of U5. I am downstream of H6. Her ancestry ties to the oldest Irish, mine ties to the Yamnaya and the Iron Age bell beakers who went into Ireland. It’s so cool to make connections to these specific aincent migrations and peoples. We sure did push west 😅
Not really. Irish are paternally R1b-L21 but Continental Celts are very varied in their ydna. Irish get their ydna from the Bronze Age Bell Beakers not the Celts.
@@jackieblue1267Agree, the Irish have a high Indo European steppe component and the Continental Celts have higher caucus admixture more close to the Gauls
The Celts are a modern invention - In the early 18th century Edward Lhuyd came up with the theory and even if there was a unified European culture from that supposed Celtic period, we Irish had nothing to do with it anyway - Barry Raftery (1944-2010) professor of Celtic archaeology at University College Dublin, admits an enormous problem in justifying his subject: "there is no archaeological evidence for a Celtic invasion of Ireland". Over the period from about 450 BC to AD 450 when some scholars agreed that there were Celtic societies and civilisations in western and central Europe, hardly any material evidence has been found here to substantiate the notion of Celtic Ireland.
There is no Celtic pottery - or pottery of any kind until well into the Christian period. Only 40-50 such swords or other military instruments are extant, six decorated brooches, eight scabbards - compared to the hundreds of thousands excavated in western France alone. The Irish language is probably much older than previously thought - so labelling it Celtic as well is also misleading.
In fact, what both archaeology and genetic studies show is continuity - broadly the same people who built Newgrange continuing to inhabit the island, speaking a version of the language of the Atlantic seaboard from which they had originated. The first farmers moved westwards from Anatolia (modern day Turkey) populated the Iberian Peninsula before finally moving north to Britain and Ireland. There is no evidence of any change in genetics in Ireland until the arrival of the Vikings.
The Indo Europeans moved into Ireland during the Iron Age which is why their steppe composition is amongst the highest in Europe. They actually have a low caucus admixture which is why many of them burn in the sun and can't tan. Much of my own family are like that.
Q.1 :What does this mean travellers and the other group in Northern ireland came to ireland with Scandinavian vikings and the settled community originated from England and Scotland and orkney Island.
Fella to the right on the thumbnail looks like kevin de bruyne
about the thumbnail - the remains of this individual, dubbed SK2 by archaeologists, was found with the bodies of four other people in an open space once known as Hoggen Green, researchers used facial reconstruction software to paint a vivid portrait of one Dubliner, this was in 2017
Barney Miller- Detective Harris was trying to find his ancestors back to Africa (Roots came out around that time) His ancestry took him to Scotland. 😂😂😂
Roots was mostly fiction for profit of blame-game.
He said three and a half thousand years ago,much older than that new grange is five thousand years old,predating the pyramids of Egypt,he keeps naming English and Scottish names is he trying to say England have a claim ,
Actually, the male line of most Irish men, the R-L21 Y haplogroup, dominated Ireland and Britain around 4500 years ago. The 3500 years ago date is likely when Brythonic speakers migrated to Southern Britain but had little impact on Ireland which remained rather isolated until the Viking settlements began.
WE now originate from Mohamad
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You're obviously having a similar invasion in your beautiful country, Ireland(my mom is ancesterally Irish, we're American). We just need to vote out the politicians who are creating this discord...and to be SURE the vote is secure!
More ham head 😂
Interestingly the picture you have on the video looks like an archetype of the people from the Isle of Uist in Scotland. Most have broad faces, that are a little fleshy.
photographs illustrates Ireland at the very start of the 20th century. Concentrated in Co. Galway, the images depict thatched cottages, shawl clad women, small farms and barefoot children. Indeed, the poverty shown in some of the photos is striking.they are all in public domain also at united states library of congress, glad you enjoyed them ...
@@evoinception yes I seen that, I was looking at the AI generated male face, when I made the comment. I know many people from Uist and Barra which this picture reminds of.
@@outoforbit00 oh the face its not AI , the remains of this individual, dubbed SK2 by archaeologists, was found with the bodies of four other people in an open space once known as Hoggen Green, researchers used facial reconstruction software to paint a vivid portrait of one Dubliner, it waas in 2017, i do not know why every one is paranoid about AI...
@@evoinception thanks for the info, the facial recognition software is A.I. I'm not making any judgement on that.
I am an o henley I traced my fathers line to inverness 1717 apparently they came from the Shannon River and left during the time of Crowell I beleave they are o henleys/o hanleys on uist today
You need to do your homework mate you haven’t a clue about Irish history
Now make another one telling us what it all means.
are you having any difficulty to comprehend the scientific info ...
@@evoinception yes
Irish travelers?
The Last study i read claimed the irish were a mixture of slavs and Iranians.
which study you are pointing at , if you can post the link it will be interesting to go through ...
@@evoinception it was about 9-10 years ago. I'll do a bit of Googling.
@@clemfandango619 keep contributing to community here in the meanwhile, thanks
Its culture vs DNA right? Irish are a very mixed group just like the Wels, English and Scots. There have been many migrations/invasions of these Isles. They only stopped inrecent history. What makes one Irish or British does not lie in our DNA but in our heads and hearts.
Absolutely, it's a mix of both culture and DNA. While DNA tells the story of the many migrations and invasions that shaped the genetic landscape of the Irish, Welsh, English, and Scots, what truly makes us who we are goes beyond genetics. Our identities are deeply rooted in our culture, traditions, and shared histories. The sense of being Irish or British is very much about what's in people's heads and hearts. So, while genetics can give us fascinating insights into our past, it's our culture that really defines us. Thanks for pointing that out...
For some reason, the Irish genome is a mix as if the island was empty and French, Belgium, Norway and Denmark making up to 80% of history.
the Viking invasions brought Scandinavian genes, while earlier migrations from mainland Europe, including from regions that are now France and Belgium, also left a mark, hence you this ..
Don't believe all this stuff - the Irish were isolated for thousands of years - maybe 2% Viking and 2% Iberian is all.
I am 100% Irish. The Irish came from the Steppes and stayed there.
@@johnpatrick5307we have more than 2% nordic
I don't have any Viking, Iberian, Belgian, French or anything.
- That stuff applies in Britain, who were also colonised by the Iberians..
@@johnpatrick5307 that's you! What about everybody else?
my irish side of family is the Dillon family, my dna is part scots, english, irish, spanish and tuscan and norse.
you carry a wonderful legacy, thanks for sharing ...
@@evoinception thankyou, my Scottish side is from Somerled the viking, related and same haplogroup y chromosome of ragnar and ivar the boneless, the Maciain of macdonald clan, fought at right side of Bruce, I have dna of Stewarts , have the grey hair gene of Mary queen of Scots, relation of Eleanor Medici of spain, Elizabeth drury was the Head chamber maid of Queen Elizabeth the 1st, cousin of Mary and married Duke stafford. Mary was to marry Don Carlos of Spain, mental bro of phillipe. The Dillon side had many exploits including in the great courts in Europe, Marie anotette was in love with my ancestor who travelled Europe's high courts etc. Rich history full of tradgedy as we always fight on the good side, we lost everything for that! The holy roman empire was the first to steal our riches, this been going on forever, most have no clue about teal history. Must add my Irish side comes from spain and toscana but before spain was middle east, I have Egyptian, suadi, yemenese and pashtun blood distantly, my family took the stone of destiny, a gift from cignis and moses to Ireland, it ended up in Scottish hands, the story changed as Bruce tried to attach himself to the stone for his advantage, anyone who knows history knows Ireland had the stone and came via spain. My families crime? Being Catholic at the wrong time!
i love science! i can't find the county Cork on the map...... i wonder if we are one of those isolated populations. i have much dna diversity and i love finding out where they came from. please continue with science - i love all my ancestry! i'm not entirely human! cool!
your enthusiasm is most welcome ...
The vikings had a slave center in dublin
So they had celt dna lost
jeez I coulda told you alot of this from my family tree, mothers side through surname etc hail from scotland when folk left due to perscution of catholics during reformation generations later maternal grandmother born in what is now Northern Ireland, others on mothers side hail from netherlands and france Fathers side pure irish through out history. Dads family from roscommon, maternal grandmother northern ireland and paternal grandfather co. meath
thanks for sharing ...
That was the least informative narrative on population genetics I have ever viewed. Utterly pointless, is my conclusion. I am better guided by my niece, who went to Ireland from NZ to discover the genesis of we Ryans. Evidently, we were less Irish than Viking. She discovered a village with a stone cairn that declared "Throw a stone from this location and you will assuredly hit a Ryan". In the next village was another cairn which stated "All Ryans are troublemakers". We already knew this. A granddaughter got a DNA test and found we have some Middle East inheritance. That explains how my bum is summer brown in winter. The rest of the family, being Aboriginal, is a lot darker, except for the Indian component, which is a shade lighter. Obviously, we Ryans also like variety.
the study does shed light on many interesting and new findings though ...
Your father probably had a bike ha ha!!!
you have any question you want to ask on the study ?
My maternal family is from Donegal. my paternal side is from Cavan. I have no trace of Norwegian DNA, or any Scandinavian DNA. My DNA comes out as Northern Irish and Central Irish only. What does the author of this video have to say about this?
The presence or absence of Scandinavian DNA can depend on many factors, including the specific ancestry tests used and the historical mixing of populations. While some parts of Ireland, particularly the coastal areas, have shown evidence of Viking ancestry, it's not uniformly spread across all of Ireland.Donegal and Cavan, being more inland and less affected by Viking settlements compared to places like Dublin or Waterford, might have populations with less Scandinavian genetic influence. DNA can also be quite personal and specific to family history, so it’s entirely possible to have a strong Irish genetic profile without detectable Scandinavian markers.
@@evoinception I did 23andMe. I want to sign up for Ancestry as well. maybe that will give more details.
@@Korva_Avia yes, please do let us know about that
My Big Y results in FTDNA say im from Naill of the 9 Hostages! All pay homage please .
thanks for sharing and welcome ...
No R1A1.
Actually, R1a1 (or R1a) is a Y-DNA haplogroup that's commonly found in Eastern European and Central Asian populations, particularly among Slavs. In Ireland, the most prevalent Y-DNA haplogroup is R1b, which is common in Western Europe.
Scots and Irish are same, they moved to both sides of sea
Not true - most "scots" come from all over.
See: Extraordinary Scottish DNA
Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps
Scottish people always say that, it's rather strange.
Western Scots are the same.
@@johnpatrick5307 all over where ?
Got my DNA results 99.9% Irish. Central & Southern region. The other 0.01% is unidentified. Also some Neanderthal in the blood too 👍.
you carry a wonderful legacy and with some neanderthal in there as well, you are in good company ...
You should do your genealogy and see how far back you can take it.
@@sr2291 I have been working on the family tree for some years now & a few of the branches I’ve traced back to 1780’s . Researching records is one of my favourite pastimes.
The origins of Clan MacCulloch are unknown, but there is a consensus that the family was one of the most ancient families of Galloway, Scotland the Y DNA is R1a. This is the Clan Chiefs line. The one way of telling if there are Scythian connections is the ability to tolerate milk as an adult. It was in the Step area near the Black Sea that horses and cattle were domesticated 5,000 years ago.
will need to go through this a bit deeper before i reply ...
The definitive way is to see how many matches to the thousand+ Scythian and Sarmatian archaeological gravesites.
The cherry is finding close but distant in time relatives, for example sharing DNA 210cM total and the longest chain is 17cM, that's 2nd Cousin territory.
Norse and French
you are right, both Norse and French influences are part of Ireland’s genetic and historical tapestry ...
So we are Norwegian 😅
Haha, not quite, but the Vikings did leave their mark..
Hmm but Norwegian are tall and good looking 😂
and i can assume you are one of them :)
Not back far enough! Look up “The Blood of the Travellers”, documentary. It showed they have the oldest blood in Ireland and it goes back to INDIA, via Europe so way before this.
there’s not enough solid scientific evidence to support the claim that Irish Travellers have a direct lineage back to India.
@@evoinception yeah there is !!
that might be only be a more modern take as we all know there is sites in Ireland date back to between 5000 and 9000 years ago so this is only a modern take on where the Irish came from and its origins.. no one likes to talk about the movement of the irish and the druid class pre- 5000 years ago from from west to east before their more modern return
You’re right that Ireland has some incredibly ancient sites, dating back thousands of years. Places like Newgrange, which is over 5,000 years old, show that Ireland has a deep and complex history.The study focuses on the genetic landscape over the past few thousand years, particularly since the Bronze Age. This doesn’t discount the earlier movements and cultural exchanges that shaped ancient Ireland. It’s true that the pre-5000-year history, including the movements of the Irish and the Druid class, is a fascinating and less often discussed part of our heritage. Thanks for bringing up that important point...
Oi you have a license for this opinion???
COME WITH ME MINION 😝
Gaza ?
Any talk of the Black Irish? Not African btw….
do not derail the discussion on genetics with such comments ...
@@evoinception I’m clarifying that Black Irish refers to Mediterranean not African ancestry… more so Spanish to be specific.
Stop looking at things through a racial lense….
@@evoinception how am I derailing a discussion by talking about a very consistent topic of interest popping up…. The main question is: why do so many Irish look Spanish and so different to a lot of other Irish peoples. Something interesting happened in history.
There were no 'black Irish'. The 'black Irish' that you may be referring to are those based in Montserrat and other parts of that region.
When Cromwell put many Irish into slavery..They were sent to Montserrat to work on the land. There is a gaelic programme on youtube from the 1970s. If you type in black irish of Montserrat? You'll find a very informative and subtitled documentary that will explain this
@@ianmoloney3880 when I say Black, I’m not speaking of African heritage but rather Mediterranean heritage or descent. I’ve just found a commonality in a lot of Irish having Spanish and/or Basque heritage. I was just curious about that line rather than the ones mentioned in Montserrat.
Bull crap.
They Foundation dna from Finland In scootish bronzeage graves ok
To my knowledge, most studies of Scottish Bronze Age graves have not specifically highlighted a significant presence of Finnish DNA.
Fin and Finnigan
It was NOT called Ireland in the 1st to 7th century it was called Scotia i.e. the Land of the Scots and the tribe was called the Scotii i.e. Scots, the Irish arrived later and the Scotii moved to today's Scotland. It was the Romans and Greeks that called Scotia.
you make an excellent point ...i covered this in my viking genetics video if i remember correctly ...
The Greeks and Romans called us Hibernia
@@kathleenr9424and the Iberian landmass was called Hiberia. The iberians traced their roots to Celtic and Gaelic tribes also.
@@kathleenr9424 Hibernia is believed to be derived from the native (Gaelic) name for Ireland from which the current native name, Éire, derives. It is very likely it has nothing to do with Iberia. Celts dominated western Europe including Britan and Ireland long before the Roman Empire overtook them.
the Irish arrived later" em no they didn't. Scotti was a generic term for an Irish person not a individual tribe. The scottish come from the Irish people, the Irish didn't replace them in Ireland, that's ridiculous nonsense.
Contradiction;
1. Little Y chromo Viking influence
2. Yet the Irish are 20% Norwegian
Garbage. anyway, so many Irish women being raped by foreigners we'll soon be mestizo
Contrárthacht;
1. Tionchar beag Y chromo Lochlannach
2. Ach is Ioruais iad na hÉireannaigh 20%.
Dramhaíl. ar aon nós, an oiread sin ban Éireannach á n-éigniú ag eachtrannaigh is fada uainn a bheith mestizo