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I am 66 yrs old and weigh 250+. Yesterday my wife and I rode our new XPremiums up a 7 mile mountain road. Very steep for at least 6 miles of it. We wouldn't have been able to do the first quarter mile on our regular bicycles. It was hard and about half way up it was kicking my old ass but we persevered and we made it! Downhill on the way back was pretty scary as we had to ride the brakes for most of it! Thank God for hydraulics! Did a total of 14.8 miles. Just checked the battery level on both bikes this morning. I was down 3 bars and the wife was down 2. I also had a 10 lb dog in a front milk crate on mine. It was hard but awesome. If you don't think an ebike is a workout I challenge you to try the road from the Ocoee Ranger station to the Hiwassee campground in SE Tennessee!
For anybody really interested in this Mid Drive, & as somebody that owns one, One user's Review: If you want a zippy fast bike get something else. Not really for city delivery. (unless they update the software or gearing, anyways) Barely lifetable with the batteries in it, you are not getting this up a flight of stairs easily your throttle won't save you on a steep hill if you weren't geared properly in advance trying to late to downshift at at the base of a big hill may snap a chain on a mid drive if you are smaller and run out of steam on a hill this heavy beast will fall over on you if you break the chain you better have a breaker & links or AAA because you can't pedal it like a broken chain on a hub drive Pedaling is more of a necessity on a mid drive, not an afterthought...like hub drives. _(I got mine for really cheap from somebody that didn't understand this, fwiw)_ *But* If you want exercise and range and can operate gears consistently at stops & before hills and like turning & accelerating at the same time, smoothly.... are willing to do a few upgrades like a KMX chain Then this is your bike. It is very solid and can pedal up a very very steep 110 foot hill in gear one PAS 5, sitting down. The Truck Run motor is quiet and smooth and carries weight easily I love the throttle on the right hand side like it's freakin supposed to be. I put a white GT Mallet front load BMX stem & white demolition BMX 10 inch rise bars and it looks and rides 100% better imho. Black milk crate can bolt right to the stock rack with some washers. (milk crates are strong & light & stackable fwiw) Mine handles hands free even while pedaling, but that took some work to attain. the longer wheelbase & good tires at the right pressure helps Vee e speedsters with tannis liners and this thing rolls up on everything silently albeit slightly squishily. Brakes are dead quiet and are still bedding nicely wish I was riding it right now Hope this helps
Any recommendations on the chain? I'm able to find 7speed KMC chains, but haven't seen much talk about what chains are appropriate on a mid-drive. edit: stumbled into a worthwhile gem- th-cam.com/video/a7iBvQhiozo/w-d-xo.html
Has cruise control and mounts for a front rack. I think this is the most “ bad ass “ electric cargo bike on the market from a great company. Great review.
I ask them they said it is about 3-5 years or 600 to 800 charges. It also totally depends on your weight, road, etc. What are the total miles your bike has at the end of the life of the batteries. Thanks
True, this is an incredible value. Thanks for the great review! The folding aspect may only be useful a few times a year, but there doesn't seem to be much downside vs a non-folding bike. Maybe a few pounds of extra weight.
The storm clouds I saw in this video reminded me that I would love for you to include whether a bike is weatherproof. It is easy, especially in FL, to get caught in a sudden downpour and it would be nice to know if a bike is capable of operating in such conditions or will it short and shut down on you?
@@bigdiglett3258 I would just suggest it as standard for all bikes that are reviewed. It is something that I think most people don't think about, until it is too late.
I have to agree with you BUT we get sudden rains like now [currently the 5th day non stop and 5 to10" an hour] but I don't have to water the yard. The problem is the few roads that we do have are closer due to land slides and flooding. but when it stops, that is when I use my Bike. Yes, I live in paradice, but it's really spelled PAIR OF DICE like las. " Vegas Snake eyes and Craps ."
I just ordered one of these because it's on sale for $1,399 with free shipping. Another reason I bought it is because of the mid drive. I've ridden hub motor ebikes and don't care for them because they don't do well on hills and their power delivery with peddling is a little hurky jerky. The one thing I'm wondering is if a Bafang 1000W mid drive will fit. If it does, I wouldn't have to worry about upgrading the motor controller since it's built into the drive itself.
No longer sold on their website. I asked why and they seemingly refused to give an answer. Only said that their other models offer a similar experience. Not very confidence inspiring if you ask me. They completely purged any trace of this bike and its existence.
I live in Phoenix and saw a large group of Lectrics drive by when we were at Chic fil et. I didn't know that they had seats on the back. That's a cool feature.
I pre-ordered mine, and have racked up >400 miles on my commute of 34 miles (round trip). been able to average anywhere from 14-17 mph on those rides (stoplights suck & headwinds _blow_ ). I like this bike, and sure as hell wouldn't be able to pull this off without it. The torque sensor is pleasantly responsive in PAS 3,4,&5. I rarely use gear 7, and in the one spot I do, I can routinely hit 27mph with 200lbs me and up to 25lbs of gear. Also I wear a Kali Invader 2.0- protect your jaw! The batteries charge unequally, meaning I plug in the main after I get home, and the vertical battery once the main shows green (sometime in the middle of the night). PAS 1 genuinely feels like it impedes momentum more than assists, gear 3 is sticky up & down. And I'm sad that one of the buckles on my pannier ripped off already. Bellyaches aside, still my favorite ride!
I have the same issue with 3rd, the best I could get it to was a soft knocking sound now. I have to spend some time adjusting it but I am wondering if a shimano chain, cassette & derailleur wouldn't solve it. I sure hope a software update for the controller is rolled out.
@@MoPoppins Divided highway crossings in a semi-suburban area. One that I have to cross west and then south, another by a truck stop, and the final divided crossing is 8 lanes wide & borders the office. The first one is a double hit, the latter two are delays for my safety, even though they "cost" nearly 10 minutes together.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
This bike was really easy to assemble th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
I love this bike but I can't get it because I live in the UK.The throttle doesn't matter to me, although just because it's there doesn't mean you have to use it. I could stick to the legal limit here in the uk. If anyone wants to send me one for free then feel free. I am in my 60s so would use it responsibly. Good video as well.
I think it's a nice bike i like the power it has but too me I'm just not feeling the design of the actual bike give me all these features on a maybe future XP 3 or hmm an XP 3 pro?
@@MrBothandNether Unless it has an IPX6 rating, if I'm not mistaken? It shows the electronical components are IP-65 rated. It says- "IP-65 rated electrical components ensure greater water and dust resistance."; however, it displays this comment underneath the title called "LCD Display", so it makes me wonder if the IP-65 rating is directed towards the entire eBike or just the LCD Display? I'm a very technical person so to me it has a double-meaning.
You also never get to smoothly accelerate in a tight turn, but unless you've ridden a mid drive you wouldn't get it. mid drives are for bikers that don't want to bother shifting and like that hub gear noise
I'm not sure if you are making fun of the question or genuinely asking it. So I'll assume it's a genuine question. Hills are the reason. I know a lot of Americans ride in perfectly flat areas, but many other people have to contend with hills. So a derailleur is a must, even for an ebike.
I assume you may not been really knowledgeable on the matter, but specially on mid drive ebikes, your gear ratio can change according to the gear, which changes drastically the torque and speed. So a good one is a must have..for geared hubs not so much though.
Besides the answers others have given, if you like to take long trips and want to maximize range, gears are essential. You get the most range when you're riding the bike in the most efficient manner.
Looking for a mid drive for my son cause he has to traverse a few big hills everyday at school. This looks like a viable option but I was wondering what you would recommend as a step up from this. I could do something in the 2k -3k if it’s worth it. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
That was an early first ride before the bike was released, when I got to ride the first prototype. This is a full review after spending more time on the production version.
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So I'm guessing you already recorded a video for the new Lectric XP coming out November 1st 2022
I am 66 yrs old and weigh 250+. Yesterday my wife and I rode our new XPremiums up a 7 mile mountain road. Very steep for at least 6 miles of it. We wouldn't have been able to do the first quarter mile on our regular bicycles. It was hard and about half way up it was kicking my old ass but we persevered and we made it! Downhill on the way back was pretty scary as we had to ride the brakes for most of it! Thank God for hydraulics! Did a total of 14.8 miles. Just checked the battery level on both bikes this morning. I was down 3 bars and the wife was down 2. I also had a 10 lb dog in a front milk crate on mine. It was hard but awesome. If you don't think an ebike is a workout I challenge you to try the road from the Ocoee Ranger station to the Hiwassee campground in SE Tennessee!
It's wild that this bike was discontinued so quickly. I wish I could buy it.
For anybody really interested in this Mid Drive,
& as somebody that owns one,
One user's Review:
If you want a zippy fast bike get something else.
Not really for city delivery.
(unless they update the software or gearing, anyways)
Barely lifetable with the batteries in it, you are not getting this up a flight of stairs easily
your throttle won't save you on a steep hill if you weren't geared properly in advance
trying to late to downshift at at the base of a big hill may snap a chain on a mid drive
if you are smaller and run out of steam on a hill this heavy beast will fall over on you
if you break the chain you better have a breaker & links or AAA because you can't pedal it like a broken chain on a hub drive
Pedaling is more of a necessity on a mid drive, not an afterthought...like hub drives.
_(I got mine for really cheap from somebody that didn't understand this,
fwiw)_
*But*
If you want exercise and range
and can operate gears consistently at stops & before hills
and like turning & accelerating at the same time, smoothly....
are willing to do a few upgrades like a KMX chain
Then this is your bike.
It is very solid and can pedal up a very very steep 110 foot hill in gear one PAS 5, sitting down.
The Truck Run motor is quiet and smooth and carries weight easily
I love the throttle on the right hand side like it's freakin supposed to be.
I put a white GT Mallet front load BMX stem &
white demolition BMX 10 inch rise bars and it looks and rides 100% better imho.
Black milk crate can bolt right to the stock rack with some washers.
(milk crates are strong & light & stackable fwiw)
Mine handles hands free even while pedaling,
but that took some work to attain.
the longer wheelbase & good tires at the right pressure helps
Vee e speedsters with tannis liners and this thing rolls up on everything silently albeit slightly squishily.
Brakes are dead quiet and are still bedding nicely
wish I was riding it right now
Hope this helps
Any recommendations on the chain? I'm able to find 7speed KMC chains, but haven't seen much talk about what chains are appropriate on a mid-drive.
edit: stumbled into a worthwhile gem-
th-cam.com/video/a7iBvQhiozo/w-d-xo.html
Has cruise control and mounts for a front rack. I think this is the most “ bad ass “ electric cargo bike on the market from a great company. Great review.
What would you estimate is the life expectancy of the batteries? I have an earlier Lectric XP and the battery only lasted 2 years.
I ask them they said it is about 3-5 years or 600 to 800 charges. It also totally depends on your weight, road, etc. What are the total miles your bike has at the end of the life of the batteries. Thanks
@@seemovielove3597 Well as I said mine only lasted 2 years and about 100 charges.
True, this is an incredible value. Thanks for the great review! The folding aspect may only be useful a few times a year, but there doesn't seem to be much downside vs a non-folding bike. Maybe a few pounds of extra weight.
The storm clouds I saw in this video reminded me that I would love for you to include whether a bike is weatherproof. It is easy, especially in FL, to get caught in a sudden downpour and it would be nice to know if a bike is capable of operating in such conditions or will it short and shut down on you?
He assmebled a lectric bike in the rain and then proceeded to ride it in the rain on his own channel if that helps
@@bigdiglett3258 I would just suggest it as standard for all bikes that are reviewed. It is something that I think most people don't think about, until it is too late.
I believe it's weather rating is IP65 fwiw
I have to agree with you BUT we get sudden rains like now [currently the 5th day non stop and 5 to10" an hour] but I don't have to water the yard. The problem is the few roads that we do have are closer due to land slides and flooding. but when it stops, that is when I use my Bike. Yes, I live in paradice, but it's really spelled PAIR OF DICE like las. " Vegas Snake eyes and Craps ."
Thanks for posting appreciate you actually gave the price most people making a bike videos ramble on and on and on never mentioned how much it cost
Wouldn't want to accieentally price yourself out of views.
$1599 for black friday sale and 256 worth of accessories :D
I just ordered one of these because it's on sale for $1,399 with free shipping. Another reason I bought it is because of the mid drive. I've ridden hub motor ebikes and don't care for them because they don't do well on hills and their power delivery with peddling is a little hurky jerky. The one thing I'm wondering is if a Bafang 1000W mid drive will fit. If it does, I wouldn't have to worry about upgrading the motor controller since it's built into the drive itself.
Still waiting for their hopefully-to-come mid-drive with Internally Geared Hub and Belt Drive. Yeah, I know it would cost more.
No longer sold on their website. I asked why and they seemingly refused to give an answer. Only said that their other models offer a similar experience. Not very confidence inspiring if you ask me. They completely purged any trace of this bike and its existence.
Within the first five seconds, it shows a crooked fender. Throwing my OCD all off. Seems like a good bike though.
Man if you could slap a Bafang M620 in that frame it might be a good cheap base.
Nice to see a review of a mid-drive. Correct about the extra weight of the fat tyres. They also reduce range due to increased rolling resistance.
I live in Phoenix and saw a large group of Lectrics drive by when we were at Chic fil et.
I didn't know that they had seats on the back. That's a cool feature.
I was offering why this bike disa5 from their site recently. The One sounds like it eats this ones lunch
Being a mid drive, do the pedals have to be moving while the motor is working or can you do throttle only with the pedals still?
Which one performs a little better, this one or the Rundeer Attack10?
I pre-ordered mine, and have racked up >400 miles on my commute of 34 miles (round trip). been able to average anywhere from 14-17 mph on those rides (stoplights suck & headwinds _blow_ ). I like this bike, and sure as hell wouldn't be able to pull this off without it. The torque sensor is pleasantly responsive in PAS 3,4,&5. I rarely use gear 7, and in the one spot I do, I can routinely hit 27mph with 200lbs me and up to 25lbs of gear.
Also I wear a Kali Invader 2.0- protect your jaw!
The batteries charge unequally, meaning I plug in the main after I get home, and the vertical battery once the main shows green (sometime in the middle of the night). PAS 1 genuinely feels like it impedes momentum more than assists, gear 3 is sticky up & down. And I'm sad that one of the buckles on my pannier ripped off already.
Bellyaches aside, still my favorite ride!
I have the same issue with 3rd, the best I could get it to was a soft knocking sound now.
I have to spend some time adjusting it but I am wondering if a shimano chain, cassette & derailleur wouldn't solve it.
I sure hope a software update for the controller is rolled out.
Could you hang back and/or stop for about 5 - 20 secs to time it so you’d hit all green lights, or is it the arrows that throw off the timing?
@@MoPoppins Divided highway crossings in a semi-suburban area. One that I have to cross west and then south, another by a truck stop, and the final divided crossing is 8 lanes wide & borders the office. The first one is a double hit, the latter two are delays for my safety, even though they "cost" nearly 10 minutes together.
@@zachseeman5235 Sounds like live-action Frogger!
I communicated with them and they don’t sell this anymore.
Big fan of those boots when I'm riding too!
Are they available online or in Australia 🦘
How can I get a motor less rear wheel? Just like this. I just want a free spinning rear wheel with no motor. Can you help?
got one ,luv it I'm 68 yrs old , weigh 270 and i enjoy this bike,its very hilly where i live and it does great. don't think they make them anymore.
I don't think they make them anymore either. They discontinued it after one year. I wish I could buy it
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
This bike was really easy to assemble th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
We need a 750 or 1000 watt mid
I love this bike but I can't get it because I live in the UK.The throttle doesn't matter to me, although just because it's there doesn't mean you have to use it. I could stick to the legal limit here in the uk. If anyone wants to send me one for free then feel free. I am in my 60s so would use it responsibly. Good video as well.
I lost the keys couple of months after getting the bike turns out you can't replace the key wich means bike is trash now.
I think it's a nice bike i like the power it has but too me I'm just not feeling the design of the actual bike give me all these features on a maybe future XP 3 or hmm an XP 3 pro?
Can you find out when they will have 150lb passenger update like the 3.0?
How do you order a bike none of the emails work and I can't get through on the phone
How does the mid mount motor work in throttle only mode? I would assume you don’t have to pedal and the motor turns the chain?
look nice.. but have ONE major down side... small wheels.. yes you neat them for the fold.. but the mass of is say that you do not fold..
I like my xp for cruising in town but my next bike will be mid drive and big wheels for off-road adventure ☺️
I prefer being 6 inches closer to the ground for some types of riding.
Not going to follow the surrons around on this thing
very nice, hope they will offer a version with 3 inch wide wheels
you can put 3 inch tires on a 4 inch rim if you get the right kind.
There is a kenda 3.25 that runs nice IIRC
Lectric out here dropping banger after banger and thought we wouldn’t notice
Can't we just customize the tires and change them from fat tires?
I just bought the X premium what is the best mirror to get for the e-bike ?
I wish they would have gone with the skinny rear tire
One of the right boxes is belt drive.
Child seating options?
Yeah I've looked at this bike but not available in Europe
yeah, but you have Bosch mid drives and Yamaha moved it's e-bike factory to France & their mid drive is a beast.
Still waiting for the belt drive version. BTW, is the 4 inch fat tire able to ride in sand along the beach sandy shore?
I wouldn't recommend riding a heavy electric bike in sand, even if it is densely packed sand.
sand is a real good way to fuck up a bike
@@MrBothandNether Unless it has an IPX6 rating, if I'm not mistaken? It shows the electronical components are IP-65 rated. It says- "IP-65 rated electrical components ensure greater water and dust resistance."; however, it displays this comment underneath the title called "LCD Display", so it makes me wonder if the IP-65 rating is directed towards the entire eBike or just the LCD Display? I'm a very technical person so to me it has a double-meaning.
@@MrBothandNether It screwed up my Segway scooter. Barely on the sand 50 feet and back off. Sand screwed up my throttle.
Nice bike, but for the money the Ariel Rider Kepler does 35+mph throttle only and has a 52v, 20AH battery. The only feature you lose is folding.
kinda apples and oranges. Kepler is a great bike but you "lose" many more features like mid drive, torque sensor
You also never get to smoothly accelerate in a tight turn,
but unless you've ridden a mid drive you wouldn't get it.
mid drives are for bikers that don't want to bother shifting and like that hub gear noise
I just checked, and the original post is incorrect. I'm getting the Lecrtic much better price point and bike, in my opinion.
Is it a fun bike to ride?
Why do derailers matter on ebikes? The question has never been asked.
I'm not sure if you are making fun of the question or genuinely asking it. So I'll assume it's a genuine question. Hills are the reason. I know a lot of Americans ride in perfectly flat areas, but many other people have to contend with hills. So a derailleur is a must, even for an ebike.
the motor won't last long if you are asking it to churn up a hill with the resistance of a single speed.
I assume you may not been really knowledgeable on the matter, but specially on mid drive ebikes, your gear ratio can change according to the gear, which changes drastically the torque and speed. So a good one is a must have..for geared hubs not so much though.
Besides the answers others have given, if you like to take long trips and want to maximize range, gears are essential. You get the most range when you're riding the bike in the most efficient manner.
Looking for a mid drive for my son cause he has to traverse a few big hills everyday at school. This looks like a viable option but I was wondering what you would recommend as a step up from this. I could do something in the 2k -3k if it’s worth it. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
You already reviewed this bike
That was an early first ride before the bike was released, when I got to ride the first prototype. This is a full review after spending more time on the production version.
1000 over priced
How much should it cost? And how exactly could they get to that price?
@@Dadof5 well I see them used on fb marketplace for less
@@Kimbrough87 OMG that's hilarious.
@@tornadokat yeah if your paying for 2k for a bike the joke is on you lol 😂
I don't like folding bikes
Love mine, upgraded from a 2.0. Loved the 2.0 but it was stolen. Already have 56 miles