Fulton Mackay's last starring role was as the captain in 'Fraggle Rock' (an off shoot of 'The Muppet Show'). He died in 1987, aged sixty four, the same year 'Fraggle Rock' ended. His wife died the following year at exactly the same age - sixty four.
Fulton MacKay indeed DID speak just like that. I once passed him talking to an elderly lady fan in _Harley Street_ of all places. He was clarifying that (as she had reported) her _friend_ was correct, insofar as his name was pronounced Mack-EYE, and _not_ Mack-AY as she herself had imagined. Stiff upper lip and twisty-mouthed with a pronounced Scottish accent, I observed as I sauntered by. (He didn't actually extend his neck to one side, however, which would have been the icing on the cake!)
Good question about the "n" word's use in a British context. The American "n" word was never used in the UK, or, at least, meant something else and died out decades before. The "n" word mentioned in this episode I think had died out by the late-70s. I grew up in the 80s and never once heard it used by anyone, even if they were trying to be offensive. So I think that by then it was already regarded if not as taboo, then as socially unacceptable. I certainly don't remember hearing it on TV or radio from the 80s, although it was certainly tolerated if it cropped-up in repeated shows from the 70s, like this one, and had a clear context (in this case, a type of music). I think it was replaced by the word "coloured" for a while, rightly or wrongly, which encompassed other terms such as "Afro-Caribbean" or "Asian" (which doesn't mean the same thing in the UK as it does in North America). I have never used the term "coloured" myself, however.
Hi Megan, Just discovered your channel. I am glad you are watching Porridge. It is my favourite comedy show of all time. As you say, it is funny but always manages to be uplifting too. Very well written as acted throughout. I hope you will continue to enjoy this show.
@david Yeah but the problem is all they see is all the money they are losing by those pesky license fee dodgers. But I agree if they just allowed it (as the reactors aren't showing full episodes, well not on here anyway they might be elsewhere) they will get new fans of the shows who then might buy the DVD's so they can watch the full episodes.
TH-cam is an American company that does not have the right to clip BBC shows for content providers. The BBC's own TH-cam channel makes money from their content that repays itself, and that money goes back to the BBC, not to a content provider.
Yeah Ronny is taking yhe piss out of Palastians Megan and its hilliarous because they are philistines its comedy before Political Correctness so love it.
Hi Megan, not sure if you have been told yet or if you already know the Dillon they are on about him looking like is Dillon from 'The Magic Roundabout'! He really does have the perfect hairstyle and even the moustache to go with it too, it is an absolutely priceless mickey take! Lol You just have to love Fulton Mackay, Ronnie Barker and the very sadly deceased way too early Kenny God er played by the Nottingham Actor and Richard Beckinsale who passed away at just 32 years of age after a Heart Attack back in March 1979! He was the father of both the TV Actress Samantha Beckinsale from 'London's Burning' & her younger half sister, the film actress Kate Beckinsale of the 'Underworld' Film Series! Katie's mother was Actress Judy Loe who Richard had only married in 1977. It was such a shock to hear the news of his passing on the radio back in 1979, my family's thoughts went straight to thinking of his wife and 2 young children of whom Samantha was just 12 years of age and Kate just 5 years of age at the time! 😭 All so very sad! 💔😢
It was still legal to smoke a cigarette indoors in Britain until very recently even in a restaurant now very few restaurants would it be acceptable to smoke even under an awning which i'm glad.
TH-cam is an American company that does not have the right to clip BBC shows for content providers. The BBC's own TH-cam channel makes money from their content that repays itself, and that money goes back to the BBC, not to a content provider. Your ignorant about how copyright works with many other companies on TH-cam protecting its work.
My dad said it was the mid eighties where it was not acceptable to say most things on the tv, he said back in the seventies they could say sexy remarks about women and there bits and call all Asians the p and call blacks colours as well as the N word.
The word Negro or corrasion isn't offensive unless shorted to make a derogatory remark. In the 70's to say some one was black wasn't correct it was dark skinned or brown was the preferred term. Things do change.
The N-word has never been acceptable in the UK.. When in the US I heard it regularly.. I was so unaccustomed to pronouncing it my lips felt weird even trying to pronounce it..
As far as the "N' Word" is concerned, sometime in the early-mid 1980's I would say it really started to be frowned upon, but possibly a little later when it really became bad news to say. My now deceased Aunty, who had always worked in the Rag Trade, used to refer to a colour being 'N***** Brown' as that was a well accepted shade of brown at that time, as far as the Rag Trade was concerned back then, in the Early-Mid 50's to Mid 80's that is anyway! Now of course if she had still been alive and called it by that name, then she would probably have been in some considerable trouble! 😉😢 Obviously very understandable as per how tense the issues with colour are these days, so a good thing that it was left back in those very racist times. BTW, not sure if you have seen the equally 'Non PC TV Show' as per nowadays, it went by the title of 'Love Thy Neighbour' which was based on how an Afro-Caribbean Family coped living next to an overtly 'friendly bigot' of the time in the form of the father of the family played by Jack Smethurst and his counterpart in the opposing family played by Rudolph Walker, most recently seen on The Square in Eastenders! How nice it is that times have since changed so very much as the word (Now please excuse me and forgive me for actually saying this word, but derogatory words such as "nig-nog", "Sambo", "Choc-Ice" & even "King Kong" were used an awful lot in this show too). The show was actually broadcast between 1972 - 1976 & in 1973 was adapted for film too!
@@Poliss95 I remember, however it would still be very politically incorrect because of the list of words I quoted carefully in brackets! Hence the language used was particularly incorrect to nowadays. But still extremely funny and even now, Rudolph Walker is disappointed that it isn't really being reshown on TV now because of the language used back then, because he feels it is a funny show as they both take the 'P' out of each other, it isn't all 1 sided!
if you find this offensive , heaven help you 😆 listen young lady............there is a thing called ''zeitgeist''...........when you watch or read something from previous times you have to take into consideration almost everyone was the same then.............they said , thought and acted in a similar way that reflected the times...............these days the gap is even wider...........my two neices are 6 years apart and their world views are completely different !
Fulton Mackay's last starring role was as the captain in 'Fraggle Rock' (an off shoot of 'The Muppet Show'). He died in 1987, aged sixty four, the same year 'Fraggle Rock' ended. His wife died the following year at exactly the same age - sixty four.
Fulton MacKay indeed DID speak just like that.
I once passed him talking to an elderly lady fan in _Harley Street_ of all places.
He was clarifying that (as she had reported) her _friend_ was correct, insofar as his name was pronounced Mack-EYE, and _not_ Mack-AY as she herself had imagined.
Stiff upper lip and twisty-mouthed with a pronounced Scottish accent, I observed as I sauntered by.
(He didn't actually extend his neck to one side, however, which would have been the icing on the cake!)
Love how you manage to edit out almost every punchline in the episode (you're gonna die Ives!)...well done. 😉😊
Good question about the "n" word's use in a British context. The American "n" word was never used in the UK, or, at least, meant something else and died out decades before. The "n" word mentioned in this episode I think had died out by the late-70s. I grew up in the 80s and never once heard it used by anyone, even if they were trying to be offensive. So I think that by then it was already regarded if not as taboo, then as socially unacceptable. I certainly don't remember hearing it on TV or radio from the 80s, although it was certainly tolerated if it cropped-up in repeated shows from the 70s, like this one, and had a clear context (in this case, a type of music). I think it was replaced by the word "coloured" for a while, rightly or wrongly, which encompassed other terms such as "Afro-Caribbean" or "Asian" (which doesn't mean the same thing in the UK as it does in North America). I have never used the term "coloured" myself, however.
Hi Megan,
Just discovered your channel. I am glad you are watching Porridge. It is my favourite comedy show of all time. As you say, it is funny but always manages to be uplifting too. Very well written as acted throughout. I hope you will continue to enjoy this show.
Hello! Thanks for the lovely comment! Porridge is such a great show :)
The BBC often take down sitcom reactions. It's bizarre, because such reactions typically promote the shows.
I know! It’s very frustrating
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@david Yeah but the problem is all they see is all the money they are losing by those pesky license fee dodgers. But I agree if they just allowed it (as the reactors aren't showing full episodes, well not on here anyway they might be elsewhere) they will get new fans of the shows who then might buy the DVD's so they can watch the full episodes.
TH-cam is an American company that does not have the right to clip BBC shows for content providers. The BBC's own TH-cam channel makes money from their content that repays itself, and that money goes back to the BBC, not to a content provider.
That's not the N-word.
Yeah Ronny is taking yhe piss out of Palastians Megan and its hilliarous because they are philistines its comedy before Political Correctness so love it.
Hi Megan, not sure if you have been told yet or if you already know the Dillon they are on about him looking like is Dillon from 'The Magic Roundabout'! He really does have the perfect hairstyle and even the moustache to go with it too, it is an absolutely priceless mickey take! Lol You just have to love Fulton Mackay, Ronnie Barker and the very sadly deceased way too early Kenny God er played by the Nottingham Actor and Richard Beckinsale who passed away at just 32 years of age after a Heart Attack back in March 1979! He was the father of both the TV Actress Samantha Beckinsale from 'London's Burning' & her younger half sister, the film actress Kate Beckinsale of the 'Underworld' Film Series! Katie's mother was Actress Judy Loe who Richard had only married in 1977. It was such a shock to hear the news of his passing on the radio back in 1979, my family's thoughts went straight to thinking of his wife and 2 young children of whom Samantha was just 12 years of age and Kate just 5 years of age at the time! 😭 All so very sad! 💔😢
Omg, that's a real surprise then lol.
It was still legal to smoke a cigarette indoors in Britain until very recently even in a restaurant now very few restaurants would it be acceptable to smoke even under an awning which i'm glad.
The BBC have got a nerve being so strict with copyright, at least with us in Britain considering we pay for it.
TH-cam is an American company that does not have the right to clip BBC shows for content providers. The BBC's own TH-cam channel makes money from their content that repays itself, and that money goes back to the BBC, not to a content provider.
Your ignorant about how copyright works with many other companies on TH-cam protecting its work.
greta show great reaction i wish i could have seen a bit more oh well!
STIFF UPPER LIP, OLD SERGEANT MAJOR MILITARY TALK TO THE PRIVATE SOLDIERS
Did you recognise Inspector Japp from Poirot as Dillon?
My dad said it was the mid eighties where it was not acceptable to say most things on the tv, he said back in the seventies they could say sexy remarks about women and there bits and call all Asians the p and call blacks colours as well as the N word.
The word Negro or corrasion isn't offensive unless shorted to make a derogatory remark. In the 70's to say some one was black wasn't correct it was dark skinned or brown was the preferred term. Things do change.
Hope you react to Porridge the movie. One of the few occasions when the movie version is as good as the sitcom.
In Britain , political correctness started to be recognised in comedy in the early 1980’s with the birth of alternative comedy.
The N-word has never been acceptable in the UK.. When in the US I heard it regularly.. I was so unaccustomed to pronouncing it my lips felt weird even trying to pronounce it..
I agree that the N-word has always been an insult, but it isn't the N-word used in this ep.
" Unaceptable" You had better ask who puts out such decrees not when ,., ,,
As far as the "N' Word" is concerned, sometime in the early-mid 1980's I would say it really started to be frowned upon, but possibly a little later when it really became bad news to say. My now deceased Aunty, who had always worked in the Rag Trade, used to refer to a colour being 'N***** Brown' as that was a well accepted shade of brown at that time, as far as the Rag Trade was concerned back then, in the Early-Mid 50's to Mid 80's that is anyway! Now of course if she had still been alive and called it by that name, then she would probably have been in some considerable trouble! 😉😢 Obviously very understandable as per how tense the issues with colour are these days, so a good thing that it was left back in those very racist times. BTW, not sure if you have seen the equally 'Non PC TV Show' as per nowadays, it went by the title of 'Love Thy Neighbour' which was based on how an Afro-Caribbean Family coped living next to an overtly 'friendly bigot' of the time in the form of the father of the family played by Jack Smethurst and his counterpart in the opposing family played by Rudolph Walker, most recently seen on The Square in Eastenders! How nice it is that times have since changed so very much as the word (Now please excuse me and forgive me for actually saying this word, but derogatory words such as "nig-nog", "Sambo", "Choc-Ice" & even "King Kong" were used an awful lot in this show too). The show was actually broadcast between 1972 - 1976 & in 1973 was adapted for film too!
Love Thy Neighbour was taking the P out of the racist, so not as politically incorrect as you might think.
@@Poliss95 I remember, however it would still be very politically incorrect because of the list of words I quoted carefully in brackets! Hence the language used was particularly incorrect to nowadays. But still extremely funny and even now, Rudolph Walker is disappointed that it isn't really being reshown on TV now because of the language used back then, because he feels it is a funny show as they both take the 'P' out of each other, it isn't all 1 sided!
@@markdermody9698 It Ain't Half Hot Mum is back on TV and that had brownface.
Sorry couldn't watch this one ..text too distracting.
just put the 'here due to copyright' line once , across the top or bottom, we want to see what you are reacting to, naff video otherwise
if you find this offensive , heaven help you 😆 listen young lady............there is a thing called ''zeitgeist''...........when you watch or read something from previous times you have to take into consideration almost everyone was the same then.............they said , thought and acted in a similar way that reflected the times...............these days the gap is even wider...........my two neices are 6 years apart and their world views are completely different !