Valentina Shevchenko Vents on "COMPLETELY UNFAIR" 10-8 Scorecard in Alexa Grasso Draw | Noche UFC
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- Noche UFC's Valentina Shevchenko talks to MMA Junkie and other reporters post-fight after her split draw with Alexa Grasso in their women's flyweight title bout in Las Vegas.
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10-8 puts the whole sport into disrepute. I am embarrassed and ashamed for the ufc. Changes need to be made. These are people's lives and legacies that are being tainted.
Lol
All sports are fixed my guy;
It’s just entertainment;
@@broombromden498this is true!
You realize they just joined the WWE, right!
A grounded fighter is defined as: Any part of the body, other than a single hand and soles of the feet touching the fighting area floor. To be grounded, both hands palm/fist down, and/or any other body part must be touching the fighting area floor..Delusional Valentina
@@broombromden498fucking seriously. Why do you think they bet cause it's rigged
Its not age that is catching up with Val. It's the skill of her opponents. I actually love that she's finally facing skilled opponents. Most of her past opponents were frankly nowhere near the caliber of fighter Val is and it made her look invincible. And it got boring. Her best fights were with Holly, Joanna, and Amanda- all world class and former champions. It's irritating that because she is a woman people are suggesting she is getting old and that is why she is struggling. Which is dumb. She's incredibly athletic and healthy still. She's just dealing with better opponents. I am glad to see her face adversity and have tough challenges.
"because she's a woman" get outta here with that woke shit. Age doesn't discriminate and there's PLENTY of people analyzing ALL fighters age once they hit mid 30's. Just stop, you sound pathetic.
Yes..but she definitely won this fight, major ground control and same strike numbers
@@Overeasyeggsoee like grasso eyelid that was split open? 😅
@@Overeasyeggsoee is this a joke? 80 sig strikes to 82.... identical, now count vals control time and takedowns, u have a difference maker... grasso lost 3-2 agendas be agendas...fool
not because she's a woman bud, she's literally been fighting for around 20 years at this point. do you not remember people claiming Aldo is "getting old" and is "past his prime" at 31/32?
Broke her hand in the first round and STILL performed like that?!?! Valentina is GOAT of 125 by a long way
She tapped out last fight lol
🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🤡🤡🤡🐀🤡
@@danelhernandez4875so? Gsp tapped out too. .
@@rishitamang2431GSP actually managed to avenge his losses tho lol.
Broke a minute part of a minute bone, nothing serious.
Her hand got a bit, not completely, worse by the end.
Then again racists always hype White people.
Look at Valentina's face... I don't recall her EVER looking this beat up after a fight.
Age is catching up to her
definetly@@thisara360
Have a look at Alexa’s face mate 😂
Lol…I guess you didn’t see Grasso?!?
And so??
Is she not allowed to look beat up? This is fighting not modelling.
Go look at grassos face.
Both gave a good fight.
close fight...thought Val won....10 - 8, that was so wrong...dreadful
NOPE... VAL LOST IT SHOULD'VE BEEN 3-2 GRASSO.
Alexa SLAMMED her like nobody ever has
Alexa FLOORED her like nobody ever has, not even Nunes.
ALEXA BEAT HER ASS. PERIOD.
LIKE IT OR NOT... HER FACE IS ON DISPLAY.
SHE EVEN SOUNDS DEFEATED. LMAO
VALENTINA IS OVER WTIH. KAPUT!
Valentina . Your amazing . 👍
The judges should be interviewed at the press conference .
for them gifting VS round 4???? i agree.
The translator is an absolute weapon at his job
Pretty sharp memory, I've heard many questions in Spanish with long answers from Grasso, Valentina, Tracy, Loopy, and this guy remembers everything and didn't leave out anything while translating.
indeed
Gigachad's name is Fabiano Buskei. He normally translates for the Brazilians, but he also acquired Spanish.
He is the translator Goat
She's brilliant. Fluent in 3 or more languages and won this fight.
i know right! grasso is amazing dropped the ruskie and won the fight
Yea Valentina definitely won.
@@redleaderone8429not even Russian dummy, grasso definitely lost, major ground time and same sig strike numbers
Viva la Mike Bell
It.
Was.
A.
Draw.
Watched it live and it appears that Valentina didnt put her hands on the canvas until AFTER the knees started. Seems like she was attempting to stop the knees once they started coming by intentionally putting her hands back down, a tactic that puts both the opponent and the ref in a tough spot. Was still a great fight from both athletes. They should both be proud!
whether it was intentional or not if those are the rules they should be followed, but the commentators say they were legal
@@liamhoffman9201the rules state that you can’t just touch the ground but weight has to be placed on that hand
Just crawl around on all fours so you can’t get hit 😂when in doubt play the race card
@@Supadupa335😂
@@Supadupa335LOL 😂
Math ain't adding up here.
Sean strickland oustruck izzy 27-12 in round 1, 22-1 in the head, completely dominated and controlled the whole entire round. Got a knockdown and almost finished izzy - unanimous 10-9 round.
Magomed Ankalaev dominated the entire round 5 with almost 5 mins ground control time, 18-0 significant strikes - Mike bell scored it 10-9 ankalaev resulted into a draw, other 2 judges scored it 10-8 ankalaev round 5. Jan had 0 significant strike in that round scored 9-10.
And mike bell scored a 1:30 min turnaround by grasso a 10-8 that once again decided the draw, while the other 2 judges had it 10-9 grasso.
These bullshit scores tainting fighters legacies, can't believe people are attacking shevchenko for this and doing anything they can to justify the draw. Aint no way in world grasso won last round 10-8
Rigged bro ufc want Mexican to win man ufc is a joke now
Got lucky against Izzy
😢
@@Deimian67625 minutes of luck, maybe izzy was unlucky
@@itzAndy03 exactly.
They cheated her - this is so irritating. 10-8 on the 5th is the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard in a while from a judge.
I agree 100% man , how the fuck do you give a 10-8 in round 5 to Grasso when the first 3 1/2 minutes they were standing and Val was hitting her with the jab non stop
I agree! That was messed up how are these judges getting away with this? 😡
The ufc controls everything man rigged fights they ruined people life's imo
Affirmative action
@@ClayMationNationbased take
It's absolute Nonsense!
The Crooked judge is only doing his job setting up aTrilogy for UFC 300
Shevchenko & Grasso will be like Moreno & Figueredo. We definitely need a trilogy, the draw is questionable and inconclusive. Grasso was bleeding from the jabs Valentina was landing througout the fight (damage), Grasso's big moments was the knockdown, the big knees and another dirty boxing exchange against the fence. What im saying is both ladies had their moments but the decisive round was 5 and i don't think it was one sided in such a way that Grasso deserved a 10-8, Valentina made a mistake which allowed Grasso to take her back & control her for the last minute or so of the 5th round, up until that point Valentina was winning the standup exchanges in my book.
Now it’s a “mistake” 😂 poor babies
Valentina broke her hand/finger...she won't be back for awhile..so Erin blanchfield vs Grasso is next but Valentina is levels above anyone other than those 2 so she'll be back for sure
glad you broke even on a bet you should have lost huh@@MexicoContraVientoXMarea
@@MexicoContraVientoXMareayes , ppl make mistakes . What’s so funny? We do stupid crap all the time . Look at your parents for example, they gave a birth to you 😂 just kidding
yeah no way one take down trumps 4 minutes of domination makes no sense 10-8 means valentina was getting demolished thats insane
in my opinion, val looked better on the feet this time around. she deffinatly pushed it more and did what she said she would do. well done val, couldve easily gone to her on any other night 👏
They punched the poor Old lady to the ground
@@fernandogarcia763 lol old ? 😂
Isn't it crazy how Alexa kept sayiing before I want to strike, I want to box then rematch outsiide of 2nd round gets school by a jab.
@@Stella_B-fo5vu I know man, she didn't look as dangerous this time around with her standup, but I think it was down to the adjustments val made. Val is probably the best striker in that division next to alexa and say manon. and I think a lot of people forgot that with the loss she had against alexa last time around
I think we're going to see alexa v blanchfield next and val vs manon (if her hand heals quick enough)
@fernandogarcia763 by clicking your avatar, we can see all of your troII comments constantly calling her an old lady. She's 35....you must be 12.
This was highway robbery. Valentina won arguably 4-1, definitely 3-2. What in the world caused that judge to give a 10-8 round??!!?!?? It's these kinds of decisions that make me sick of the UFC...
There is starting to be an argument not that it's staged but that there is a narrative going on with the brass and judges/commissions, probably a ton of money exchanging hands, to help "guide" the decisions along the path ufc needs them to. If you think about the frequency of robberies in the ufc, vs all other leagues combined, its kinda blatant that something is going on. When the same judges and same refs are at all these shows, but only the ufc has high level atrocities of judging weekly, you just can't ignore that and claim its coincidence.
Grasso won 2,4,5 you're high and listing to the bias talking sheep on espn and the broadcast
That ref needs to be held accountable. 10-8 wow
@@nahlife Yup. Everything you said is true. That belt was pretty too 🤣 it just sucked. It was such a good fight. Tainted with bs.
But you all would have been happy with a 10 - 9 .grasso beat valentina like she has not gotten beat up before. It wasn't a decisive win from valentina , look at the statistics. Grasso outstruck valentina and when valentina had the body triangle in Head so was landing good shots. Valentine was not in control even tho she had the triangle in
@@nahlifejajajaja eso es lo que pasa cuando ablas a lo loco...no sabia que una campeona de .Muay Thai ponía la cabeza abajo cuando empezó el baile de rodillas.levantando i bajando la mano
@@jefflinnell8492 So the the last round was 10-8?
@@therealbergexperience5640 comparing to the other 10-8 scores in the other rounds ?yup check shevchenko 10 - 8
Fight was 3-1 in her favor going into the 5th round in a lot of peoples eyes. Jon Anik even made a comment about the champ needing to get a finish in the final round to secure a victory before the round started. Even if it were 2-2, most thought Shevchenko had done enough during the first 4 minutes of the 5th round to secure the win. The 10-8 scorecard was another gross example of Judges appeasing the UFC and scoring it how they think the UFC want the fight scored. "The UFC doesn't control the judging or have a say in judging" is a cop out response by the UFC and it's by design - they want to be removed from having any responsibility in the outcome of decisions by deferring to the judges... These judges have been around long enough to know what outcomes the UFC want in these scenarios and do their best to ensure they meet those expectations. Sports become more and more blatant with its favouritism. It's good for the sharp gamblers who take this kind of stuff into consideration though.
AHORA DILO SIN LLORAR, EN DOS OPORTUNIDADES NO HA PODIDO VENCER A ALEXA Y SIEMPRE SACA EXCUSAS, LA VERDAD ES QUE ES UNA MALA PERDEDORA EN DOS OCACIKNES LA SALVO LA CAMPANA Y LA REALIDAD ES QUE GANO UNA VEZ MAS ALEXA Y ESO TODOS LO VIMOS
3-2 Grasso
@@reichspector2413 rigged and still a draw.
@@c.elizgarcia7122she didn't win idk everything mexican is stealing and cheating is crazy
@@c.elizgarcia7122 UFC gave it to Mexico because it makes them more money. Grasso stinks
When is Valentina gonna learn never leave it to the judges.
So now we going to blame fighters for somebody bad decision?
Santos beat her!!
@niconick2551 Of course she didn't want to leave it to the judges. But they been making bad calls lately. If I was her i wouldn't be surprised.
Or she's getting older now so I think she may not be able to finish anymore I think if your smarts you should just hang up her gloves but she's not
At least she's honest even though she doesn't agree with the decision she says it was a draw and not a victory she's one of the few woman that actually is quite qualified to be a police officer please don't take this the wrong way most police woman accommodated with a man police woman she can completely replace a man for sure
This could be in the running for Fight of the Year...kudos to both athletes.
Valentina was Robbed by DiANA WHITE . WWE
Moreno vs Pantoja is the front runner
No way, top 15 fight of the year be pushing it ! Maybe you don't watch every week.
She is right 5th round in no way should be scored 10-8
She almost got finished
almost @@trailblazeratv6306
@@trailblazeratv6306 As one comment says, he scored 10 - 9 for Sean against Izzy 1st round where the champ got beat all round and almost out on his feet. But Grasso gets beat up for 4 min, Shevchenko makes a mistake (not even a takedown) and gets in a dangerous position. Mike Bell scores it 10 - 8. It's a joke, they rig whatever they can with fighters who don't accept to take a dive like Gane vs Jones or Aljo vs Sean.
@@sorelvio79 That is why I like watching the prelims, no names fight !!!
That judge better have gotten 100,000 for that bs draw cause all three ANALYSTS said schevchenko won
Grasso won2,4 and 5
your high if you think schev won the 4th haha
Literally only one judge scored it for Shev. You don’t understand what a split draw is?
Not from what I saw
The 10-8 judge, Bell, scored 3 rounds for Val also! The 10-8 negates that, wonder why 🤔
We used to have the infamous 49-46 "UFC Africa" scorecard. Now it has turned into 10-8 UFC Mexico scorecard. What a disgrace to the whole sport.
Take it like a man you lussers..
It is also disgraceful that Grasso fans pretend nothing is wrong.
2 casuals 2 comments, not impressed. 10-8 round has been in question and contention before lastnight. stick to tennis ladys and leave the man sports to us grown men!!!
Do you don’t like it become a judge and judge it how you please. The judges have their discretion to jugaste as they see just, everyone will see it differently
Elite fighter, best of the best....
Elite translator...dude was on point 10000 percent! Great responses from Valentina. She is such an amazing human.
Does she need to get a restraining order against you?😂😂😂
Just kidding. It's nice that you think so highly of her.
Obviously 10-8 is a hometown decision. UFC should stand on it.
Great fight, I scored 3-2 shevchenko, 10-8 is a shocker🤦🏽♂️
Same smh
10-8 is bs. 10-8 is total domination. No one saw that in the fifth. Def a robbery
@UFCbreakdownmania she had 2 less sig strikes then grasso....
@UFCbreakdownmaniaValentina is one of the greatest female fighters ever and been champ for years. Fucked her hand up in the first but I thought she landed the more significant strikes on the feet from what it felt like watching it. To barely get knocked down and right back up is nothing. I think a draw wasn’t that bad of a decision and if it hadn’t been for the 10-8 in the 5th nobody would be saying anything
3x2 Grasso
My thoughts have not changed. There is NO ONE LIKE HER IN THE WORLD. TRUE CHAMPION.
I always enjoy Valentina fight , now i see an amazing personality lovable and Down to earth. A beautiful human being.
Down to earth? After her first loss vs Alexa she said it was pure luck. Now she's saying she broke her hand and judges declare a draw because it was Mexican night. She can't handle defeats.
Quit crying lol
There is no luck, accumulate focus and hard work just seems accidental but it's never the case. I am only commenting on this fight, she handled herself excellent, she don't look like mad or angry in the interview, she's very technical ,focused , she sending a message to her follower and specially to ufc management that she staying fighting no matter winning or lost. And it looks like she will stay for years ahead. People will talk about her for a long time and with respect. and for Alexa she's a great fighter and Beautiful personality. she have one win against the best ,she's a champion now and she earn the respect. @@byrusmx
Love Grasso, but VS won the fight. Mike Bell's 10-8 for Grasso in Round 5 was just horrendous. He must have been paid off.
If the fight is a draw the champion should NOT be able to retain the belt, because they didn't win, but the challenger shouldn't get it either. The belt should be vacated until a mandatory rematch.
It makes a lot of sense.
But but they just got Alexa that new piece and every other Mexican champ lost their belt. She clearly has to keep it to save some egos and investments.
Unfortunately, it's all about the bottom line. Corruption or not.
They need to do an investigation on that 10-8 judge.
That judge is the brother of CJ Ross. His name is JC Sorr.
Nobody saying anything about Alexa's glove grabs either. Just like O'malley vs Yan.
Viva Mexico 🇲🇽
Nobody just you smdh
It's sad to say I know somebody that knows the judge that scored that 10 8-round and it wasn't because of talent it was because of other reasons to benefit the judge
Huh?????
Big Fat Envelope of Cash ???! 🤔🧐
she landed 2 heavy shots in round 4, cut her open with one, stunbled her with the other, also outstruck her, grasso landed no heavy shots. Robbery. 10-8 in 5th not even worth mentioning, joke.
Grasso won round 4
Facts
@@mehey6974wrong
Didn’t grasso drop her in the 2nd?
@@actiongunner763 yes and she won round 2,round 4 was the deciding round tho, and if you go watch it again you will see my account of the round is spot on.
10-8 is out of the question and she won the round obviously. Fire MIKE BELL or strike on ppv...no one really needs to buy ppv
Shevchenko won...more jabs better wrestling and more damage
😂
which rounds did she deal more damage? grasso won 2,4,5 easily.... 2 judges gave VS the 4th thats the robbery.
She's absolutely Right
I cant love her any more as a fighter! I realize she doesnt sell or promote herself very well. But anyone that has followed her knows how dedicated, focused and disciplined she is, how talented she is, dispite her numbers!
Also, it appears she can answer questions in any language! Incredible!
You, ”can’t love her as a Fighter anymore because, she doesn’t sell or promote herself very well.”🤔
Shevchenko got robbed…Grasso fought great but Shevchenko dominated. Got kneed in the head multiple times while hand was on the mat and nothing!!!!
There was no 10-8 round, pure madness, these judges are so bad, they ruin the outcomes of fights and they ruin these fighters records, absolutely fucked up that a judge scored a 10-8, ridiculous
Alright.. I get it. One judge gave a 10-8 in the fifth making it a draw. But what I don't understand is that there was one judge who thought that Grasso won the fight. That was more weird. Why is everyone just talking about just Mike Bell?
Yes! Thank you. That's what I was thinking!
Whatever is better for the company the judges do
I could see giving 5 to grasso for finishing strong not mad at that. I had 5 even round and 2-2 going into the 5th. But I think Valentina barely squeezed it out
Grasso is very marketable and UFC has always pushed for Mexican champions because the market's very big for them. Literally the whole event yesterday was one big Mexican promotion. So yes since it is Mike Bell with the non-sensical crazy score again, he could be in their pockets for sure. The whole them questioning it is just one big show
Marketable???
Just looked up the Nevada rules around grounded fighter. They changed it five years ago to needing both hands on the floor to be considered grounded. It seems only Nevada has this rules change.
Im Mexican,ND for val to say it's Mexican independence day they judge it like that not her fault, like 5th round 10-8 was ridiculous, she got robbed, kinda like ggg got robbed in the first canelo fight 😂
Valentina is a sore loser, full of excuses. The fight ended with Alexa taking her back again.
It’s like traditional for them now.
It’s always someone’s fault why it’s a no win
Very close fight, and I didn't care either way who won. But...that 10-8 score in the 5th was egregious.
THAT is all everyone is talking about.
I hope Valentina can be around much longer. But every year in fight years is rough. Women too are unfortunately at a disadvantage because of hormones dying off. Late 30s and early 40s are those perimenopause years for lots of women. It’s super rough and your body just starts shitting all over you overnight. Injuries especially. I’ve been an athlete all my life, but my body tells me what I will and will not do now. The mind over matter doesn’t work. When your hormones are crap, it’s hell.
ME GUSTA MUCHO VALENTINA TIENE QUE SER MAS HUMILDE Y DARLE SU LUGAR A GRASSO LOS AÑOS NO OASAN EN VALDE GRACIAS X TU COMENTACIO TIENE MUCHO SENTIDO. PERO VALENTINA ES TODO LO QUE SAVE EN SU VIDA ES ENTREBAR.
Such a warrior, broke her hand in the first round and she put on a hell of a fight and honestly i know she won. if it wasnt for that 10-8 she wouldve got that belt back
Lol even in round 5. Valentina clearly landing combinations and jabs.
Totally flawed system when you have 3 opinions from non fighters/judges that determine the outcome of a close fight….it’s literally a crapshoot determined by people sitting there while fighters lay it all on the line! Some of these scorecards are drastically different from each other and don’t have to take accountability for their decisions while the fighters can be literally be destroyed financially and mentally!
It was a highly competitive / razor-close fight all right, but Valentina should've gotten that decision win 48-47
Round #5 a 10-8 for Alexa Grasso, what a f*cking incompetent judge!🤪🤣
The Mexican Holiday helped a lot with the judges.
more likely 48-47 for Grasso
Val kept making mistakes with those stupid headlock , exactly the same thing she did in the nunes rematch that cost her the belt. Alexa slipped out of the headlock due that blood on her face which she capitalized. She may have won the fifth rnd but not impressive because she capitalized on a mistake. Still Val survived the 5th rnd which is impressive too. HEart of a champ. However; there were moments when Val could have face cranked Alexa on the 3rd rnd but she didnt and her corner didnt remind her
This.... One judge had it grasso, one had it bullet. The 10-8 bullshit decided the fight as a draw.
She's a really intelligent and strong woman I respect her
10-8 is a suspiciously bad score honestly
A lot respect for Valentina great fighter her Spanish is excellent and clear and should be another Trilogy with Alexa and determined who is the real Champ. Peace ✌
Handled with class
How do M.M.A. fans bet on M.M.A. fights anymore??? The corruption is in our faces. Mike Bell scoring the 5th round 10-8 is criminal. Anyone who lost money on that fight should be reimbursed by Dana personally with an apology.
The Bullet won the fight. She is a warrior!
wrong
Valentina won. Even if the 5th was 10-9 Grasso Shevchenko wins.
If the 5th round was a 10-8, rounds 3 and 4 should have been 10-8 for Shevchenko due to how much ground control she had during this rounds. Completely ridiculous.
Lmao, what y’all smoking? Did you watch the fight?😂😂😂
True
Tf? ☠️ Grasso won the 4th
@@reichspector2413 he obviously didn’t watch the fight. grasso won 2,4,5
No fanboi's. She only won 2,5. Shevchenko dominated 3 and 4 and even tho close, she won the 1st. anybody watching without bias could see that.
Bullet is my hero. She has found tbe answer to life.
She had excuses when she lost to Amanda, she had Excuses when she lost to Grasso in their first fight, and she had excuses again. I used to like her before but she cannot accept everytime she is defeated.
She clearly won thos fight. Stay triggered.
I also use to be a fan. She has full of excuses.
Well the others were not worthy of excuses…
But she definitely won 3-2.
Even though I had more money and wanted Alexa to win
@@paulsmith8510 all those fights were razor close nothing clear about them except for the grasso 1 fight
She is done!
Corruption at its finest 10-8. They need to appeal the judges score cause that was deliberate
Damn she fought that whole time with a broken thumb? Crazy compared to how roses game shut down after her injury
She's not thr first to fight through an injury it happens it's even less impressive she sustained it during the match lol
@@BaMBaM-gi6yx “why u gotta be so mean” - Wonderboy
@pridepride7967 don't see how that's mean? Lol just saying she's not the first to fight through an injury lol happens all the time. No one wants to hear fighters make those excuses
The judges did Valentina as when fought with Amanda Nuns.
Where are the spinning kicks, the reverse strikes, the face kicks, and all those flashy blows Valentina used to deliver against other opponents? With as many times as she has taken down Grasso in the two fights, why hasn't she been able to get a submission? She needs to give some credit to Grasso
She didn't say Grasso did nothing. She's just saying she still won.
You need to learn the basics of the fight. The flashy spinning shiit is not for everyone or anywhere.
Last time it cost her the fight. So the experts were actuallying saying she was doing the right thing to restrain herself from the flahy moves. Now you are saying she did bad because she didn't use the flashy moves?
LOL.
@@Tko_Seven Those spinning kicks and punches carry tonnes of power and can win you the fight instantly. You're right in that it cost her the first fight as she tried a desperate one in the last round and lost her back, but she does look like she's lost 10 percent of her athleticism and become a bit one-dimensional.
@@ericshaun6078what is "tonnes?"
LOL. stop watching anime. you obviously don't have real martial arts experience. If the opponent is not moving, spinning elbow or just regular hook both can be strong enough. Back spinning attacks are good for catching an opponent who think it's their turn to attack and surprise. Valentina slightly slower than her prime but I really think it's the Grasso's tempo and timing that just happens to be awkward for certain fighter, like Valentina. MMA math is not regular math, more like more diverse rock scissor paper. Grasso's tempo looked very consistent and continuous that made Valentina frustrated. But Objectively, Valentina still won. you can watch someone like Weasel's to precisely count all the strikes and points.
@@Tko_Seven youre joking right? i walk into the gym and everyone is practicing backflips. coach javier mendez told khabib to retire because he refused to do spinny shit.
@@the1abstraktbackflips or spinning, they are totally two different things. And exactly what part of my comment do you think is joke?
we need to start suspending these judges
Val used to be one of my favorite fighters, but her being this much of a poor sport lost me as a fan
Valentina clearly won that fight and a 10-8 in the 5th is just robbery. Bell should be fired.
Val won 4th round,Grasso was bleeding in this round so damage wise she lost.
..... How is almost getting finished, running the entire time, and stalling a win in the 4th. Two judges didnt give grassso the 4th thats the only robbery.
@@Mr-Cav Val finished the round strong right? She didn't get almost finished after those knees she won that round before those she was winning the round and Grasso started bleeding after those knees so yeah Val won the 4th round.
@@sachinchauhan5853 so did grasso win round 1 because she landed 2x more than VS? VS best round was the 3rd and she landed only 5 more strikes, Grasso was never in danger besides 1 sub attempt. Then came out and dog walked her down the entire round.
If you think VS won that fight, 1. you are a sheep and the bias commentary team tricked you. 2. you had money on VS, or 3. your name is Tito Ortiz
@@Mr-Cav go watch it again Grasso did nothing in R1,Val outstriked and landed a takedown,if u think Grasso won R1 you are casual and blind or maybe a child.
Venting is a strong word. She wasnt venting. She was just talking. Stop taking things out of context to spin a narrative.
She is saying like it is. 10-8 was a disaster.
If it was evn a 10-9 she would have won.
Val won this true.
Despite how great of a camp Val may have had, it's clear that one part lacking in the preparation was a clear knowledge of the current rules. She obviously thought she was grounded by virtue of having one hand down on the mat, but according to the rules now, she wasn't. She took several knees to the head because of it. They always say "Don't leave it in the hands of the judges". I know she was trying as hard as she could to avoid that, but the fact is that despite her best effort, she couldn't finish Alexa, and on the contrary, was hanging on to avoid being submitted at the end. The 10-8 was bogus, but the ultimate decision was at least reasonable. I like both fighters, and though I was pulling for Val, I still think the final decision was reasonable, and could even see it going either way. Give Alexa her due.
I think it's more about the hits to the back of the head that happend numerous times during the fight
Valentina got robbed. These judges man. Is it so hard to add 2 more judges to the panel
round 4 could have gone either side but everyone agrees 5 wasn't a 10-8
Round 4 Valentina cut Alexa face she through the best punch
She's so much better than the goat,
She's on a level all her own,
She's Valentina Shevchenko!!!
There were so many jabs that were wobbling Grasso! No way she won this fight. At 3:50 of round 5 she got lucky with Shevs mistake 1:50 of not so much gets her a 10-8. Common!
I think to win the championship you have to knock out the champion or totally dominate the champion, Shevchenko did not do that. I think it's the right decision, it would either be a win for Grasso or a draw.
I had Grasso winning 2, 4, and 5. I felt she got robbed if anything, but close fight. Round 4 those knees were huge, she was lifting the hand off the ground momentarily and landing hard knees. Alexa also had a big takedown, a bit of an armbar threat, and a heel hook threat that round.
agree with this 100%
I had Valentina winning personally but your opinion is a lot more respectable than Mike Bells
Knees were huge but the elbow pieced up and opened up a cut on grasso can see it clearly who did more damage just look at their faces in the end. Round 4 was close but bullet did more damage, Bullet clearly won 1 3 and 4. LOL aint no way we talking about grasso being robbed 🤣 mike bell cooking the fight and still its a draw. Can't even rigged the fight for a grasso win
Exactly 2, 4 & 5 were Grasso, and she kept moving forward the whole fight, you don’t take the belt from a champ by jabbing and moving backwards, Val should have had more urgency in the 5th, but she looked gassed
@@dvus317 LMAO 4th to grasso? Why was every priviledge was to the champ? Grasso won the round 5 even though she was losing most of the round, she won the round by damage because of that turn around, bullet clearly won round 4 based on damage, he cut grasso open with an elbow thats the biggest damage of the fight, and you still gave that to grasso? 🤣
She said she was goung bvb to finish her and all this high powered talk before the fight. What happened to that.
I think a draw is fair looking at the whole fight. I also think grasso did the better damage. Very close, no robbery
valentina i used to respect but she is full of excuses first amanda then the two times she complained about alexa . alexa is champion get over yourself your hype valentina .
Val did more damage . After the fight val just got cat-scratches whereas Alexa had nasty cuts and big black eye. She still beautiful though
@@JanaiSaltin-mm6jmyou must be blind!
Valentina can't Speak because of swollen mouth, forehead damage, cheeks, finger etc etc.
Grasso scratch under her eye 👁🗨.
The result is fine in my eyes, but the way that we got to that result isnt - 10-8 in 5th is pure BS
That 10-8 round to give it to the Mexican on Mexican Independence Day is the start of the WWE + UFC emerging. Rip to the UFC.
It's called Champion's advantage. You knock out or submit a champion. Alexxa Grasso won, did not beat her but won.
i agree. i wish the judges were more consistent with this.
Man I Love Val A TRU Champion
The 10-8 in round 5 made it completely obvious that something shady went down. People that don't see that are clearly casuals or they are Mexican with a bias. If Valentina got a point taken off for a few eye pokes in round 5 then I could understand a 10-8. UFC is reminding me of politics now. We see shady crap going on but nothing happens to the guilty and there's nothing we can do...besides stop supporting the UFC.
Incompetence in MMA judging is nothing new. It’s not that complicated or conspiratorial.
@@TheUndertones559 Actually there's nothing complicated about it...you put an 8 down instead of a 9 or 10 because someone told you to. Bribes happen all the time, this is nothing new, unless you were born yesterday. I'm just disappointed that it's happening in the UFC.
Everyone in our house said going into the 5th Grasso had to get a knockout or submission to win, as we had it 2-1-1 Val at that point. So, with that said, I want to see the punch stats myself, but until I do, or maybe count the punches in the 5th round myself would be fun, I'd guess 45-15 Val, then one sub attempt negates that? There was no takedown in the 5th. So, one sub attempt trumps the other fighters punching domination in a round? If that's true, why do we even watch anymore?
I know she got the ground control on second round but still got Knock down
She also got hit a lot while holding grasso she have to learn how to ground and pound because she started hitting her at first but then she just laid there on top of grasso doing nothing.
yeah knockdown but what a chin from Val instantaneously getting back up to her feet with that crazy fast ninja-like roll. To be fair Val as well inflicted more damage with those nasty cuts and black-eye she gave to Alexa
So what lol
Val couldn't stop grasso.
People are just hating .
But yet Val did more in more rounds.
I used to be a fan, but no more. Not graceful at all in defeat poor showing. Although 10-8 in the last round was ridiculous.
Be proud you won
I am going to tell you what is right amigos: The first flight wasn't a fluke and Valentina couldn't defeat Alexa in the second one showing that Alexa is the better fighter, period. And yes, lets habe a third one. Quit crying and embrace reality cupcakes Greetings from México 🇲🇽
First time in her career being knocked-down?
Should've been a Grasso Win.
I’m a Val fan but she has meet her match
I don't think so. Val is better. Val is also 35. Grasso is 30. In the UFC that's a big difference. And YET. Val is still as good as she is.
Valentina won. That 10-8 round 5 was a sham. If it was 10-9, Valentina wins fair and square. The fix was in to keep a 'can a title holder. That judge needs to be excommunicated.
Not a grounded opponent if fingers on ground, commentators confirmed it. Weight needs to be distributed more to count. Regardless, I think Valentina edged a victory (at first I thought she lost r4, upon replay, she did win r4)
She is 100% correct..... The FIX was in and this taints the sport.
Great fight, thought Grasso snatched it at the end personally, 3-2
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Valentina won this fight in my opinion, yeah u can't knee a person I the head when their down on the mat..the ref allowed it and that's shitty on his part..the refs wasn't doing his job and the judge seemed to b more partial to Grasso..I can't believe how these 2 fights have gone because Val has fought 2 wars with Nunes and I kno Nunes can destroy Grasso..this fight game is unpredictable
She speaks Spanish…? Well damn she should’ve won!
She speaks multiple languages
She used to be on a Spanish game show back in the day , she was hot then too 🥰 lol
I believe she speaks 4 or 5 different languages
Ohhh mannnn Valentina is a great competitor. Great athlete, what a shame she couldn’t get her belt back 😥
10-8 is absolutely absurd. Completely incorrect scoring. Shevchenko deserved that belt, she was 100% right Mexican Independence Day was behind this, end of story
10-8 is ridiculous. Those knees were legal, though, and I had Grasso 1, 4, 5, with a 10-9 in 5 instead.
Whenever there is a absolute BS scorecard like that 10-8 it's ALWAYS in favor of the Mexican fighter. What a coincidence!!
Keep crying 😭 😂
@@Vic-go7zu You're the only one that seems upset 😂😂
@@rockyj5047 in happy because the belts stayed in Mexico, and Mexicans had a very successful night last night a the ufc 💪🇲🇽
You have to understand if it was 10-9 Valentina would be champion. That's a huge mistake