We need to talk about Pope Francis... w/ Fr. Gerald Murray
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I agree wholeheartedly with Fr. Murray, this and so much more have me praying for Pope Francis daily. I came to the Catholic Church in 2013 and I miss Pope Benedict, but I remain Roman Catholic, not because of the Pope, who will come and go, but because of the Holy Eucharist.
The Eastern Orthodox schismatics also have the Eucharist. What they don't have is the infallibly safe magisterium of the legitimate Successors of St. Peter.
So people worship the Eucharist?
@@ELxcaballo82 Yes, because the Holy Eucharist s truly God.
@@Mar--Mar we are to worship God in spirit and in truth as it is written
John 4:23-24. He said, But the hour cometh and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father seeketh such to worship Him. God is a Spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”
God is not in things made with human hands
Solus Christus - Soli Deo Gloria
@@ELxcaballo82 Matthew 26:26 And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body.
That bread was made by human hands.
I was born a Catholic and will die a Catholic, despite what I am seeing in the church. We must pray for the Pope and all priests, Bishops and Cardinals in these challenging times.
You were not born a Catholic. You were Baptized a Catholic.
Fr. Murray is a treasure in our Holy Mother Church and he is clear as a bell when responding.
Pagan
The Church is not our mother but we, the bride of Christ. "The Jerusalem which is above" is "the mother of us all."
Great interview with Fr Murray, thank you. We need to continue to pray for Pope Francis that his teaching and public pronouncements are consistent with Church teaching, and lead to clarity not confusion.
I thank God for Fr. Murray, keep praying for him!!
“A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit; neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:15-20.)
You BURN the CORRUPT TREE to the ground !
so what conclusion do we arrive at concerning monster bergoglio?
@@susanpower9265: Pray for his conversion, he evidently needs our prayers. And for the sheep who follow his “teaching”…
@@susanpower9265 idk who is bergoglio, i just know The Holy Father, the Pope Francis, Saint Peter's successor
Hi guys, the most important and powerful deed to help pope Francis is praying for him. Let us ask for help from our Lord Jesus to shine a light upon him at all times.
Thank God for Father Murray!
@@matthewbroderick6287 This Pope has done many questionable things and appointed the likes of Cupich to higher positions in the Church. He is extremely liberal and even today he says nothing about Biden, openly supporting abortion and gay marriage. Cupich supports gay agenda.
Rightly said. Take the word of God seriously. The major problem in the Catholic church today is it takes the world seriously, and the word of God lightly and superficially.
Care to improvise on that theme? Give me an example of taking "the word of God" "superficially." And what do you mean by "word of God?" Another commenter says the problem is that they deny "the plain view of scripture," that is, they're not superficial enough.
@@duncescotus2342 Put in the simplest way: taking the word of God seriously is believing divine revealed truth. It is taking Jesus Christ seriously. Most members of the Catholic hierarchy are faithless in the word of God and it shows in what they preach and what they no longer preach.
Pathetic. Sad.
@@jeandejazz6426 I like your answer. I think that they think "the word of God" is ever-changing. It may be, but it can't be ever-contradictory. By ever changing, I mean something like evolving, being revealed in greater detail and perfection, thus any changes are enhancements and clarifications. I don't have a problem then with "progressivism" so long as it is truly progress that's being made.
Blessings of continued revelation, joy, peace, harmony, rest, success and power in Him to you and your household of faith now and always, as it written:
"Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, you and your house."
@@duncescotus2342 God bless you my brother!
👏 👏 Thank you so much for bringing some sense in this confusing an terrible time in the church, where we call purple, yellow and red blue. thank you for clarity. We need to pray for than ever constantly. Do not abandone the faith, keep praying and hoping.
I would say the fact that Catholics like myself are very concerned with some of Pope Francis' statements shows how much we revere the office of the Bishop of Rome. The Pope is supposed to be a spiritual father to all of us like human fathers are. His confusing and ambiguous statements are harmful to building up the faith of Catholics.
"But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith will not fail. And when you turn back to me, you must strengthen your brothers." (Luke 22:32)
since 2013 vast majority of catholics feel deflated. this includes priests and laity. there's also confusion and general malaise. these are not good times for the church under this pope. after great pontificates of JP2 and B16 this is a horror.
@@artifexdei3671 since 1958,you would say, in fact in since the end of 1800 but the divine mercy have sended good pope's until Vatican 2. The papacy starts to falls downs morally in the Reinessance, but dogmaticallly with John 23.
@@ivanspaziano1977 that's why there are all sorts of problems with the church now.
@@artifexdei3671 the highly venerated JP2 who turned a blind eye to sex abuse within the church... not much better if you ask me.
The Pope is human as well and will stay really bizarre and idiotic statements. We already have the teachings of the church and scripture to keep us on the right path. Pope Francis certainly does not have the tenacity or gift of proper words as our last two Popes had.
We laity need more of this kind of "easy-to-digest" doctrinal clarification AND critique of Pope Francis and his direct predecessors. Thank you!
Pagan
Lol, how you people now talk like the worst of Evangelicals. Really now. And I'm on the other side. We used to admire your obedience.
You laity ? Shut your mouth in church, woman.
Oh I forgot. You go to the church of the scarlet harlet.
@@mikecurliss848 No one loves a tight rhyme like the slogger of doggerel that is me, but riddle me this--
If the Church (any church) is Mystery Babylon, mother of harlots, then who are the harlots, if not the offspring of that church?
Thank God these issues are getting talked about. As a new Cathoilic I’ve been scandalized by the silence not the corruption!
Me too 😒
Do you think directly or tacitly supporting perversion, heresy, mutilation of innocent children, paganism and etc is is legitimate?
Sister in Christ, this is not the first time with have controversy in the church, I agree this time is getting worse, but let remember that Christ told us to see at the signs of the times. At the end time Mary’s immaculate heart will triumph, we need to embrace ourselves for colisión, how? By growing spiritually, by practicing devotions, spiritual readings, reading the Bible, study the catechism, approach the sacraments and live our faith, no matter what. God called us to live in this times for a reason. Blessings
"Not the corruption?" Dear sister, how exactly do you digest such lumps of disagreeable knowledge without a shame far more agonizing than that which is suggested by the somewhat double-meaning "scandal?"
I worry more about day ti day living as a Christian. Jesus will judge me for my sins not those of others.
Thanks Father Murray and Matt. It truly is amazing that the usccb refuses to address this seriously.
They won’t…
Well said, Fr. Murray!
Now you need to Apologize to Taylor Marshall and Patrick Coffin!
@@patricialandsman6639 nope. Taylor Marshall has been more of an instigator and populist rather than one who tries to speak with charity, love and humility.
I don't know anything about Patrick Coffin.
Patrick Coffin is awesome, my go-to Catholic interviewer.
He's brave and deals with the tough issues, so has been de-performed off TH-cam.
You can find him on rumble or podcast.
Yes Father Murray, our shepherd has to be clear and not make his flock confused.
Refreshing to hear these points!
Let us pray that Pope Francis's intentions are fully consistent with the will of the Father.
I think you mean pray that his intentions become holy. You cannot honestly be that naïve to think he has holy intentions right now. No honest person can even be sure he is a Catholic! He is literally the most wicked man alive right now, the man we call our Pope.
@@verum-in-omnibus1035
"He is literally the most wicked man alive right now".
Do you really believe that? Or are you just being hyperbolic?
@@zenbum2654 Hyperbolic, surely, but is a heinous act committed against one as bad as a mildly negative act committed against billions?
He has to resign before he leads the church in a darkness
@@matthewbroderick6287 Don't care about Canon law it is not my job to know it. What matters is what is coming out from our pope mouth and his actions. No condemning here I am just wondering if he has been influenced by Vatican guys lobbies. Kiss the Koran? Commom
This is such a great show! All Catholics listen up and learn the actual faith! Thank you Matt for helping us learn
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Thank you Father Murray for speaking truth. This should help other shepherds ( our priests and bishops) to not be afraid to speak up. Too much false mercy being taught in our church today. If we bring our Catholic brethren to love for Our Blessed Mother she will bring her children to truth. She goes after her lost children.
you dont understand deliberate devotion to sin
Pagan
What are you taking , Jesus said he came to seek what is lost , not Mary, Jesus said he is is the Truth the way and the life, not the mother. Your replacing Jesus for Mary, Jesus died for her sins, the Bible is clear ALL have sin and fallen short of the glory of God that includes Mary. The only one who didn't sin is Jesus.
I thought the Good Shepherd went after the lost? Now it's Mommy's job?
God bless you for speaking the truth.
Pope Francis didn't talk about civil union, maybe in English with the media distorting it sounded like it but in Spanish they are two different words with different meanings, he never said about civil union of homosexuals, he said there should be civil laws to fight discrimination
If this is true than the American clergy, haters of Pope Francus are a fake catholic tool in the hands of protestant Republicans. Sheesh! Speaking of homosexuality, Ronaldo is one of them .
Fr. Murray would make a good Bishop.
Fr. Murray is WONDERFUL!
Because everything he says rings true
How can he be "wonderful" if he is in open dissension with the person he calls the pope? "When we love the Pope, we do not dispute whether he commands or requires a thing, or seek to know where the strict obligation of obedience lies, or in what matter we must obey. ... Where there is holiness there cannot be disagreement with the Pope." - Pius X, Address to the Priests of the Apostolic Union, Nov 18, 1912.
@@Victor-co2xj The context of Pope St. Pius X is important as is Fr. Murray's disagreements with Pope Francis. Pope St. PIus X wasn't advocating for teachings contrary to the revealed Will of God through the constant teachings of the Church and Sacred Scripture. Pope Francis defects from both, advocating for ethical and moral positions that are dissent from the Church and Scripture. All the Fr. Murray does is point out that the Pope is full-throat in his dissent. Even Pope Francis, himself, said it is okay to disagree with him. (Sept 11, 2019 - aboard the flight from Madagascar to Rome.)
Fr. Murray is WONDERFUL because he is faithful to both the Church and Scripture, and obeying Pope Francis' instructions on dissent.
@@jamesmartello1 It is impossible for a Successor of St. Peter to 'advocate for teachings contrary to the revealed Will of God through the constant teachings of the Church and Sacred Scripture' in the exercise of his office. Can you imagine what a disaster that would be? If that were true, the Church would not be indefectible since she is bound to follow the pope. That's why Pius X said that the faithful must follow all that a pope teaches instead of seeking to know where the strict obligation of obedience lies. One can always safely follow the pope. If a pope can 'defect' when teaching the Church, what good is it to have a pope? If we have to sift through a pope's magisterium to discern what is good or bad, how are we any different than Protestants? That attitude of 'filtering the magisterium' has been strongly rebuked by Pius VI in his Auctorem Fidei. (cf. old Denzinger 1578). Catholics obey the pope even beyond his statements on faith and morals, but also must follow his disciplines.
It is interesting to learn that Francis's airplane interviews have been rehabilitated and can now be taken as instructions to be obeyed. Whenever someone wants to show how problematic Francis is, people say that those flight statements don't count. Now they count again.
And just come to think of it: if a pope can defect from Scripture and Tradition as you say, how can you trust what he says about the permission to disagree with him? That's not what the popes have taught, since the Roman Pontiff has immediate, universal and ordinary jurisdiction over all Catholics. Fr. Murray is in open disagreement with the one he considers a true Vicar of Christ. There's a name for that, and it is called schism.
Thank God we have a Pope like Francis. I’m praying for Fr.Murray. Fr. Tom Wilhelm
Thanks a million Fr. Gerald ! As a lay person l have the freedom to develop my ideas on these topics which are often detailed and involved, and have a rethink. I realise that once a priest in your position states something publicly, he goes on record and is almost not allowed not to reanalyze his thoughts. I congratulate you on being up front and l also believe you too have the right to back track on statements down the line if you have further illuminations!
@@matthewbroderick6287
Thanks Matthew for your thoughtful comment ! I'm sure you're not suggesting Fr. Gerald tells lies or leads anyone astray. We need guidance from clerical scholars.
I do agree that the pontiff has an overabundance of presumptuous and impertinent online critics. He has often spoken ambiguously but it may relate to his upbringing in South America where a military junta was in force. He understands that type of thinking as we westerners do not. I think his intention is to minister to the gay community since they have been with us from the time of Sodom but some people want to milk it for all it's worth.
I thought the Dubia cardinals were quick to go public. The root of the word is doubt and the proverb is : When in doubt, do nothing! Or at least have private discussions to discover the pontiff's disposition.
For me, the electric chair and the New Testament are not compatible and I'm with the holy father on this one.God bless from Ireland!
I,believe Pope Frances, is a pope for these times, a good holy man, his whole desire like,Jesus is to reach,poor,souls many who never had the opportunity to experience any form of family life, These are the lost sheep he wants to encourage, To do that you must go meet them with love, not judging but listening, How wonderful God works through gentleness & truth.
@@lourdestheresa6211
Thank you Lourdes, yes l agree! St. Malachi , in his prophecy, describes him as Peter ,the Roman.
Robert Sarah for pope
Thanks, I got alot out of this discussion.
It's amazing how Americans see their own culture as impeccable. capital punishment is inadmissible nowadays, you can't compare the Old Testament and God judging with the New Testament with politicians and judges judging. Saint John Paul II has already said that it was admissible for some cases such as the government not being able to keep the defendant, but that does not exist today, unless it is a tiny country.
Bery awesome discussion and clarity
Protestant here. I enjoy the content and I appreciate the aesthetics of the Catholic church and the desire to connect to generational tradition. But I can't reconcile much of what the Popes have said with a plain view of Scripture.
Your churches are even worse. Hillsong, made to attract young people who want to go a concert to dance and show off. 🤭 Modern Protestantism is a joke.
Plain view of scripture "mentions" homosexuality vaguely 5 times, one of which is in positive light, and that being the ONLY mention if you consider all the evidence the catholic church had mentions against pedophilia changed to homosexuality. Even the devil can quote scripture, friend.
@@aff77141
lol a Christian who condones sodomy.
You will never enter the gate of Heaven.
Spoken like "a true Israelite in whom there is no guile." Can't argue with St.Peter's on grounds of artistic merit.
@@duncescotus2342yet you offer no rebuttal
Thank you for talking about this problem. We need to pray for a new Pope. God save our church. God save our church.
He's trying to, and you're getting mad about it
It's not yours. It's His. And He will: "the gates of hades will not prevail." But capitalize the word "Church" for me next time. Thanks.
We must pray for Pope Francis that’s our duty as Christians
Thanks for enlightening and encouraging virtuous thinking in a world of contradiction.
God bless Fr. Gerard and Diane for straight talking which is absent from so many Clergy and laity🙏
GOD bless and protect you, Fr. Gerald
I have been struggling with being a member of the Catholic Church for a good several years because of Pope Francis’s blatant disregard to Church teachings. It has caused me to question everything about my faith. I have heard quite a few times to “ not throw the baby out with the bath water”. It has totally been a struggle to reconcile having to go to confession so I can worthily go to communion, while the Pope is turning a blind eye to the negative things happening in theChurch, or encouraging outright sin. I really want to get over it all and have my faith back, I really miss it very much. Yes, I know the Church is not God, but it is difficult to separate the two sometimes.
Same. When nearly all Christian denominations just adapt to the world and the Western liberal order, I can't any longer believe that it's a true religion. Increasingl, Christianity looks like a religion made by man.
"Encouraging outright sin" as if pedophilia wasn't a huge thing in the catholic church since inception... But yeah, the pope saying to love gay people is the problem. Please listen to God instead of your angry heart.
@@aff77141
You don't believe in God, you don't believe in sin (unless it's about migrants or LGBTQ+), you don't believe in Hell.
You only believe in a fictional Jesus that you use as a pet for your liberal agenda.
@@aff77141 Don’t leave the church ! Remember we are there for Christ we must pray for Pope Francis and all the church don’t let the enemy confuse you. Let’s keep on asking God for discernment on this matter! Blessings
This is interesting, but ultimately I'm not convinced about the death penalty. I'm a little confused about why it's OK just because it was done in the Old Testament. Jesus prevents the woman from being stoned for adultery in the New Testament, which seems to point to something different. In essence, I agree with Pope Francis on this point.
I think people can commit heinous acts worthy of death, but even so, I find it hard to support the death penalty. I think the death penalty is an emotional act of vengeance and moves against the possibility of forgiveness and atonement.
Hello and thanks for posting. I am with you on this.I admire Fr Gerald for his pastoral clarity. Yes, the death penalty was common in the Old Testament. If we had to do the same today, who of us would be spared. Jesus also said: who is sinless be the first to throw the stone. So, I also, just like you, have doubts about the application on the death penalty. Last but not least, there is a considerable amount of people who are found not guilty of crimes after spending decades in jail and some even on the death row, after being dismissed for not committing any crime.
Matt, I am just coming back, and you are one of my fav Catholic TH-camrs! Keep it up!
our past and present Pope are very much human beings just like us, we need to keep the faith and pray together.
Good educative program. Keep going please
I'm not Catholic. But I am Christian. And I really like this show and Father Murray seems awesome.
Catholics ARE Christians.
Thank God we still have Clergy like Father Murray
Well done keeping Murray's critique in perspective, Matt.
More Pints needed🍺🍻🍺
Good points Fr Murray
JP2 placed a Buddha on a tabernacle, kissed a quran, held the Assisi meetings... After v2 we get crazy nonsense by trying to be "pastoral"...
The problem with the death penalty, is that there have been "innocent" sentenced to death.
And as far as it being biblical, it would seem so in the OT, but Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." 🤔
yeah, the west says you can kill babies in the womb but you cannot kill a murder. if you want to see innocence ones, the babies are the truly innocence ones
True, unfortunately we live in a very imperfect world, a fallen humanity, therefore a justice system that is not always just. Look at all the abortions committed daily, innocent lives being murdered....no justice for them....
@@miaberk5372 Absolutely
@@ElCid48 yes, absolutely they are, but Justice is Justice, after all.
Matt, I’d love a video from you about things Pope Francis has said or done that you have found to be positive. Perhaps also where you see opportunities for his particular papal charism to bring about good for the church in the future? I think that would be really interesting to watch.
Exactly. Its always on and on about the negatives of Pope Francis. The positives are not spoken about and completely ignored. All these talks make one think he has done only bad things, which is not true at all!!!! Why all this focus on the negative?
@@ndumferdy2545 I agree. In saying that, my comment was in no means disparaging Matt, who I am sure knows better than myself the Pope’s positive aspects and is simply having important conversations about reasonable concerns. I just think it would make great content to hear someone as prudent as Matt speak about the rays of light in the contemporary papacy :)
@@ndumferdy2545 OK, name some? So your kid destroys every room in your house but 1 closet, so let's just live in the closet, right?
There is not so much good to say tho. We just keep praying that he is guided by the Holy Spirit.
That would be a short video, but he should if he could...
Thank you Fr. Murray. I didn't know that about the death penalty. 🙏
This is great 👍
Thanks
Matt, face the truth ! 🙏🏼
Way to go Father 👍👍👍
God is allowing all these things because of the community as a whole we are united to the church so we are all sinful more now then ever collectively. If we and more converted and prayed the Holy Rosarythis would allchange. Its our fault this has happened.... we need to all begfor mercy. And pray for the Holy Church.
Lord Jesus, have mercy on us.
POPE ST. JOHN PAUL II: “To you, immigrants who find yourselves unwelcome in the lands where you have moved, we send words of encouragement. The Church has walked alongside generations of migrants in the march for a better life, and she will not cease to stand by you with every kind of service. To seasonal workers who toil stooped under the sun to provide for their families, we unite ourselves in solidarity with you in your quest for just working conditions.” -
Synod of Bishops, December 9, 1997
Wow! Eye openner! The laity needs to wake up, speak up, and Stand Up for those good men who are proclaiming the truth of the Gospel. We need to help them. Because the power of the laity CAN'T be canceled. It is through the laity, that will save the church. The sheep must go after the wolves ourselves in order to save our Shepherds.
Good video with lots of clarity. Our bishops need to speak out more for the good of the laity. God calls all of us to holiness.
I wonder who or what is protecting Fr. Murray. There are many priests who would like to say what he's saying but absolutely cannot.
@@johantrenier1685 Fr. Murray is a canon lawyer and has an Ivy League degree and has many friends in high places. He obviously has the means to defend himself or is too valuable to enough influential people to be removed. He has positioned himself into the luxury of speaking the truth. Most priests do not enjoy this luxury. Truth is truth? Grow up, dude.
That is called "controlled opposition", whether Fr. Murray is aware of this or not. They allow him to speak because his work of "opposing the pope" provides a relatively mild escape valve that releases some of the pressure and keeps everyone in the game of accepting the authority of abusers.
@@johantrenier1685 Tell Vladimir Putin to his face the TRUTH that he is a kleptocratic, murderous megalomaniac and see how that goes for you. I'm for Fr. Murray too and I'm glad he enjoys the security to speak freely. Most priests do not. For them, speaking orthodox truth about homosexuality will end their priesthood. It will not go well for them.
How did you form this view of the situation of "many priests"?
@@tafazzi-on-discord Form this view? All y'all need to open your eyes. I grew up with several fellas who I know had girlfriends before they became priests, one of whom is no longer a priest. The homosexual clergy situation is frightening. As a good primer, google "Rod Dreher lavender mafia." Dreher has been covering this stuff for decades. Then look up news stories on the dioceses of Buffalo, Springfield, Newark, Miami, Scranton.... The Msgr. Burrill case is informative also and very interesting in that the first page of Google results are articles defending "Msgr. Grindr." If you do not know a priest that you knew before his ordination and know that he is heterosexual, you'll never hear of it first-hand. You might get a priest to talk about this topic if he is heterosexual, you gain his trust over many years, and you get him drunk. Most heterosexual Catholic priests live in fear and operate walking on eggshells. Form this view? Please. Wake up.
I'm in the Church because of Jesus. I don't plan on leaving. I've seen more persecution lately b/c of being Catholic. I see it on social media.
Have you guy’s done a video on “Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification”?
Fr. Murray says: Death penalty, is now inadmissible according to Pope Francis because it is an offense against human dignity and Inmoral. Then he goes to say that it can't be that way because God would fall under thar accusation?
Could you please elaborate? I personally believe and understand that God is the giver of life and he alone can take it away.
Why are we as a society can give that power to us?
The Crucifixion of Jesus, as a capital offense, by the Romans was supported and advocated by the Jewish leaders of his day based on Scripture and tradition. There was no problem with the death penalty in the Bible and it was applied to many including Jesus. If God deemed t inherently immoral, he contradicted his own Word.
God allowed Israel to implement death penalty
@@timmalloy6253 OR there are several things in the Bible, HUMAN concepts, traditions, and values attributed to God's authority. So it's not contradicting God. Abolishing death penalty would be updating human values in accord with the times, where the plentitude of resources makes death penalty inexcusable in 99.9% of cases. Not to mention that 4% of the time, we execute innocents wrongfully.
@@timmalloy6253 No Christian should use the Crucifixion as a defense of capital punishment. The Sanhedrin petitioned for Our Lord to be executed because they were threatened by His teaching and revelation. Scripture (including through the words of Christ Himself) repeatedly and unambiguously states that they were gravely sinful in doing so. I've been disappointed by death penalty zealots before, but your comment might be the worst I've ever seen on the subject.
@@Brillemeister If you read my other comments in this thread, you will see that I am not a death penalty zealot so lets not insult each other by making this a black and white issue. Like many, I am trying to see where Francis, guided by the Holy Spirit, is leading the Church and was responding the Jaime's question.
Come back Jesus we need a TRUE SHEPARD
No, we need, as Catholics, to DO something about it...
No, not really, it's not up to you
@@tafazzi-on-discord oh, it absolutely is up to us in the pews!!!
@@RantzBizGroup Nope, check this out th-cam.com/video/aJNrFBw_pQg/w-d-xo.html
Asking for civil unions alimstead of Marriage is in no way encouraging people to engage in homosexual activity. Claiming that can only be pure speculation, just as claiming that giving this rights to them is a way of consoling them for their sins. If I am not mistaken when gay marriage was being decided on, most Catholic leaders supported the idea of civil unions but not marriage since that was not what it was.
Thank you for this video. Question/comment...the comment was made in the last few seconds about how Protestants take the Bible seriously....shouldnt we all?
Of course
That's what the Bishop was saying.
Protestants do take the Bible seriously, one thing I have noticed they are very well versed in the old testament but they have a very slanted take on the new Testament.
@@joanmaltman9580 yes Joan it has to be said, sorry protestants, your forefathers have passed on what they mistakenly accepted. It won't be easy for any of you to see with a clear mind the simple gospel truth. Think about it, how can you go against the legal structure that Jesus created, and promised to be with to the end of time.
@@thomasmc7752 Protestants might take the Bible seriously... for what it is not. The Bible is not a tool to compose your own gospel message. The Bible is the Word of God with but one singular meaning, which excludes any manmade meaning. Jesus' message is not the Bible: it is the Gospel. Protestants use the Bible to build personal alternatives to Jesus.
The Revelation of God is for us to accept: not to compose ourselves. Divine Revelation exactly excludes human interpretation. A manmade Gospel is exactly against Jesus and the Gospel, at least according the early Church and the fathers.
We say the daily rosary which is important and I am a mother and wear the brown scapular.. Thankyou Mary and Jesus ❤️❤️
Thank God not His creation.
Thou shall not kill. If God wants to carry out the death penalty that is his right. It is not our right.
Not that Pope Francis would artiulate the difference, but I think the death penalty as administered by governments of the City of Man are problematic because of the rampant tendancy towards corruption and incompetence. Justice as defined by Aquinas is perfectly acceptable for crime, but can we trust a judiciary that has allowed Roe v Wade to dismiss the dignity of human life for 50 years to properly administer capital punishment?
I think we need to have a talk about the post conciliar Church at large.
I was wondering how do all these issues line up with the doctrine of papal infallibility.
As I understand it (which is probably wrong given I'm not catholic) any decision made by the Pope is correct and backed by the will of God. Given these apparent failures does this contradict the idea of infallibility?
According to the teaching of the first Vatican Council, the Pope can only speak infallibly under strict conditions (he invokes his authority as Pope, he teaches something directly related to the content of the faith and morals, etc). Moreover, infallibility is not the claim that the Pope is positively inspired by God but only a guarantee that when the Pope teaches authoritatively, it will not be wrong. Avery Dulles's Magisterium: Teacher and Guardian of the Faith is a good introduction if you are interested in finding out more.
As an example the last time this was used was in 1950 to affirm that the BVM was assumed into heaven. The holy spirit does not guarantee a popes personal holiness as evidenced by this current one.
Where did they find Gerald Murray and that woman?
Who's the woman who keeps interrupting?
Diane Montagna, a Vatican insider journalist.
Anyone ever the hear Michael Knowles (sociopolitical commentator and Catholic) say he thinks the death penalty has “therapeutic value” because when you know exactly when you will die, you’re more likely to worry about what happens after death and make amends with God?
Yeah I've watched a number of his videos and have seen him on a politicon panel. He's a right-winger who also happens to be Catholic, but is not a good representative of Catholic intellectual tradition. He sort of forces Catholicism to fit in an American conservative framework.
It is really interesting to me that people want to appropriate what marriage is. It was meant for a man and woman… and it’s fascinating to me that people hate Christianity / Catholicism and hates it but they want the benefits of marriage, that was created from Christianity ..
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Pope Francis was talking about allowing people who would never actually be married to have the same governmental benefits that married people do. I didn’t see it as him encouraging illegitimate relationships, or even copying marriage as a façade. I thought the idea of a civil union was a platonic way of joining people financially and for tax reasons. It has nothing to do with sexuality or love.
Since when does two men entering into a civil partnership have nothing to do with sex?
That’s what I understood too. It was a statement to encourage governments to stop allowing open destruction of people, even those who sin. Because there is not room for grace and teaching truth to people who are actively hunted, tortured, and killed with no repercussions on the predator. It wasn’t really about tax stuff. It was about personal safety.
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The government can’t care less about the physical aspects between two people. By definition, a civil union is giving similar rights to two people like those of married people, but who are (again, by definition) NOT married. It says nothing about sexuality, or sexual activity, except that two people of the same sex (ie people who CANNOT be married) have similar rights to those who can and are married.
I would think that since the Bible speaks of people who are “eunuchs by choice,” (Matt 19:12) then it makes sense that the financial benefits of marriage can and should go to those who can’t be married. For example, if it is a tax benefit for two men or two women who are PLATONICALLY living together, to claim ownership of the same house, then why not recognize that as a civil union? It is not the government’s concern, nor is it our place to assume that people living under the same roof “must” have a physical relationship.
That said, I do concede that it’s probably rare for same sex people living together to be 100% platonic, but shouldn’t that right be available to people who can’t be, or don’t want to be married?
@@dinopad10 You and I both know very well that isn’t wasn’t Pope Francis was talking about.
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My point is we DON’T know. Unless Pope Francis explicitly expressed a tolerance for homosexual activity, we cannot judge or in any way condemn the Pope.
I’m just not confident about the death penalty point. As someone else pointed out, God administered the death penalty as punishment and was able to do so because He is fully just and good and perfect. We are not, and I find it very difficult to try and equate when we do it with when God does it.
If we remove questions of whether it’s a moral punishment for a moment, then you get the more conservative argument, which is that if you don’t sentence them to death, the alternative is to throw them in prison for life which means they live off the tax payer’s dime and it ultimately means more expenses for the tax payer. I’d argue that because most if not all Protestants identity as conservative, this is why they prefer the death sentence, rather than the idea of taking the Bible more seriously. Not saying that they don’t consider the moral ramifications, but finances seems to be a more consistent argument. And for the most part, I actually do agree with the conservative argument on taxes. But on a moral level, I still have questions.
What about in scenarios of those falsely accused, as history has shown time and again? Or if one were to do penance and confession, where their sins are forgiven, should they still be sentenced to death?
The closest you can get to death as a justifiable punishment , from my reasoning anyways, is in a split second decision between life and death. If it comes to choosing between the life of an innocent child against the life a horrible perpetrator harming said child or putting their life at risk in front of you, and any action taken would result in perpetrator’s death, then I see no real moral qualms.
But I don’t really know, so this is more of just me asking for clarification
I agree. And there are many instances where, while in prison, the convicted found God and salvation. To cut off a life purposefully potentially strips that person's chance to repent and find Lord.
Using the OT to justify killing another as "punishment" is wrong. In that case then adulterers would be put to death by stoning; thieves have their hands cut off; children killed for disrespecting their parents,...and so on.
Jesus showed us that mercy and forgiveness is the new, evolved way, when He forgave the woman who committed adultery, and told Peter to put away his sword.
You shouldn't go after what is the conservative case for the death penalty. Consider what does the Church teach about the death penalty. Search for what the Popes taught on it.
As soon as I begin to pray as much and to work as much as Pope Francis does maybe then I'll feel free to criticise him....
God works in mysterious ways. I pray everyday that someone faithful to the magisterium replaces him soon. It’s not going to be long now it seems.
Love that priest’s accent. ☺️
“Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives him who sent me. The one who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and the one who receives a righteous person because he is a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward.” Matthew 10:40-41
The Abu Dhabi document is still valid, even though there was a supposed verbal clarification by the pope.Everything and anything of importance in the Church is written down and must be in order to be valid. It would require another document or an official amendment to change it.
Unrelated, I was once taught that the etymology of the word Beelzebub has its root in the Hebrew word for confusion.
If there are serious heretical issues with church leadership, what recourse does the church body have to correct these issues?
It doesn’t say in the title but who is the lady?
He didn't mention because women are second class citizens on Pints
There is a Worship of Rules among too many of the "faithful" (a faith of, and in, rules) . . . . might as well worship the tax code, too.
Agreed. One of my favorite quotes is from Bruce Lee in the film, Enter the Dragon. He said "...it's like a finger point away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you miss all that heavenly glory."
Tradition, Theology, and Rules are things that gesture toward God and an incomprehensible higher reality. We get caught up in the minutiae and forget the big picture.
@@AntonAchondoa Yeah, we think of an Infinite Being who instructs us to live by a very narrow and finite set of restrictive regulations.
Pope’s intention for September is the legal abolition of the death penalty and it cites the dignity argument which denotes cp is sin. Praying for Pope’s intention is required for the indulgence in some instances. I hope he has other good intentions for September.
I just have to respond to Fr’s comments about the Old Testament and the death penalty with a question, did not God Himself in the Word made Flesh not overthrow the death penalty, by stating “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?”
If Francis had based his condemnation on that verse there would be no problem. He would be teaching on divine law. By basing his condemnation on human dignity he is teaching on natural law and that would mean that Gen 9:6 was against natural law.
I think Francis is maybe simply not such a smart theologian so he sometimes says things that have to somehow be clarified later by what he really meant to say.
Death penalty may not be inherently evil in all cases but I also don’t see why Chritians should argue for it. Isn’t the mercy of God a far greater issue to be promoted?
@@frankk.777 What about justice to the victims and their families ?. Talk to some crime victims, get that perspective.
@@RickW-HGWT there is no ultimate justice in this life. If you really mean something like vengeance that clearly belongs to the Lord and not to us.
What about the Panchamma Incan idol worship that took place at VATICAN AMAZON SYNOD October2019????
I've tried looking into this, and the most sensible interpretation I can come up with that this was an instance of syncretism. Remember how Saint Paul told pagans that Jesus was the unknown God they had awaited? Well, using Pachamama to encourage devotion to Mary is a similar strategy. Externally, it looks like idolatry, but effectively it is using what indigenous people know in order to build a bridge to the Catholic tradition.
@@AntonAchondoa No it was pagan idolatry, how did you come to this interpretation ?, this was an insult to God and the BVM, look up the woman nursing the weasel poster that was set up in the church, as part of this synod, look up pope f and the wican stang ( no it is not a crucifix or or a cross ). This moral imbecile and the popesplaining of what is obvious strains creudilty, that would not be extended to anyone else. St. Boniface had the right approach with the Thor tree.
It was an insult to God and the BVM, look at his pattern of insults and outrages, this thing, the wican stang, the Vatican "earth mother " coin. Look at some of the past bizarre nativity scenes that have been put up the one from 2020 was frightening.
Unfortunately I don’t believe that infallibility can hold anymore due to many cases and especially those pointed out here. Only takes one error.
"Death penalty for grave sins in the old testament" like lighting a fire on Saturday and wearing clothes of mixed fabrics, nice.
I think I disagree with fr Murray on the death penalty because what did Jesus do to those who were killing Him? He was praying for them, he forgave us and said to us take and eat this is my body to the apostoles who would betray Him. As Christ forgave us, shouldn't we forgive also aka not have the death penalty?
Man, it’s so sad. I was getting close to converting to Catholicism, but Pope Francis has set me back at least a couple of years. My stomach churns when I hear him talk about same sex blessings, Muslims are our brothers and sisters, death penalty is inadmissible ??? What in the world
The truth spoken here is SO REFRESHING
The world and Catholics need more Fr. Altman and Fr. Murray and LESS Bergoglio/Francis
Gerald Murray for Pope
He didn't say that about civil unions
Question. What happens if Pope Francis puts out a official doctrinal statement stating the Catholic Church officially recognizes same-sex civil unions as valid?
What happens to the Bishops who disagree?
I don't see how that could be possible. The only valid unions for Chatolic Church are those made in Chatolic Church by existing rules, even for streight couples.
@@sunrise214 But the pope can change the rules. If Pope Francis finds a part of scripture that can even partially justify him ordering the Bishops to recognize a same-sex civil Union, I'm confident he would do it.
Do the Bishops have any recourse in such a case of the Pope ordering them to do something they don't religiously agree with?
@@FinalLugiaGuardian I think bishops are obligated to respect Pope and whatever he orders, but I don't know what happens if Pope orderes something against the Christian doctrine. Because that would be the case. Maybe there would be a councile to question his judgemant, who knows..
@@sunrise214 I did speak with someone who was a devout Catholic and he tends to think that if he were a priest (or bishop), and the pope ordered him to recognize same sex civil unions, then he would do it.
I'm summarizing a bit, but this is more or less how he put it. Essentially he has 4 possibilities.
1. If he accepts the Pope's gay civil union teaching and it is true then God will reward him in the afterlife.
2. If he accepts the Pope's teaching and the teaching is false, God won't blame him for following the Pope (who Catholic scripture says is infallible) and will still reward him.
3. If he rejects the Pope's teaching and it is false, then he will be rewarded in the afterlife because he, by pure luck, still accepted the actual biblical truth that the Pope was perverting.
4. If he rejects the Pope's teaching and it turns out the Pope is actually correct, then he will be punished by God after he dies with an eternity in hell.
Oh finally a priest that says some truths about moral bad stuff of the Modernism
Amen❤❤❤I
Please stop interrupting Father Murray.