I moved to Seattle from the Midwest in 1999 and loved it, it was great for many years then slowly started a downhill trajectory, which then moved into a freefall. I tried to remain positive and hoped it would dig itself out, but I moved out to Issaquah in February because I just straight up didn't feel safe anymore and at this point, I sadly don't think anything will change until it literally hits rock bottom, and even then, I'm not super confident it will change. There is a very real chance that this city will be a shithole for the rest of my life and as someone who remembers the beauty of a couple decades ago, it is truly heartbreaking.
I have lived in every US region in a long and adventurous life. I have had some of my best times in unassuming places which are not famous, or outstandingly beautiful. I have been miserable in the capital of my home state…could not wait to leave…and have now been in Seattle for 30 years. People who call Seattle crappy names…are welcome to move tomorrow. If you bought property, you get no sympathy from me. Sell it and move to the South. You can buy well and,if are willing to join a church OR a golf thingie, you can have s beginner social life in a month. But lay off with the sewer mouth. Move…
Issaquah? Dear God, you really have given up. Why don’t you move east of the mountains? It’s a different state, but has so much more than in the past. And you could grouse about Seattle to your heart’s content. It has wineries, great farms, Lake Chelan…and is still in Seahawks country. I make it a point to talk to farmers who staff the markets…just because. Hardworking, likable people…. And Idaho is close enough to visit. Just a hunch… You probably need to join something…if not church, then golf, bike club…something. It’s Trump country, so proceed carefully, but that’s not insurmountable. Good luck…
@@liannebedard5521 He can have his opinion if he wants. It's a comment section where people are invited to share their comments 🙄 I've lived here my whole life and understand the beauty both rural and urban and also understand being disappointed in the loss of that in certain areas. People don't need to shut up and pretend reality isn't happening or pretend they don't have opinions about it just to soothe your ego.
The Seattle Freeze: they’ll smile and be polite, but want nothing to do with you. Not exactly the usually friendly American culture I grew up with. Seattle was a difficult adjustment
I have been met with blank stares and frozen faces because I say Hello or Howdy to almost everyone I meet on the street or in stores, just a friendly guy...
@@NightRidah777 there’s a reason seattle has always had a high s**cide rates (getting better) and one of the highest single occupancy rates in terms of housing. It’s a very lonely city with a huge dr*g and human trafficking problem. One of the worst in the country. We also have a history of shoddy infrastructure projects but that’s everywhere in the US
I live in eastern Washington. I used to like to go to Seattle. In Portland. Now I avoid the west side like the plague. They used to be gorgeous cities. But they are just terrible now. I hope something changes in this state soon. I’m not holding out much hope but We’ll see I guess.
And fresh air, temperate climate, plentiful water, trees, skiing, hiking, wealth and resilient economy. Most importantly: as the climate changes it will remain livable; unlike the rapidly degenerating hellscapes with depleted aquifers of the south & southeast. Y’all have about 20 years before you’ll be trying to move in - if you’ve got the millions; otherwise you’re out on the streets with the rest of the garbage, just as nature intended. The ONLY thing worth worrying about here it is the subduction zone beneath our feet. That’s real scary and utterly unpredictable. The rest? Pffft.
@@livbar The kind of whiners who post about the horrors of Seattle are probably not your best sources of anything accurate. If you have a church, sports, or nonprofit connection, find some active participants and question them. Seattle housing is very expensive, but software jobs are abundant. If you like football, baseball, soccer…oh my.
@liannebedard5521 thank you for the info :-) I've visited Seattle in the past.. 3 times last year.... gorgeous views in every direction... sea of green.. Every big city has its pros and cons...I've lived in LA... Philly... Seattle is amazing. 👏 I know people aren't as friendly as here in TX but that's ok.. I'm super friendly.. I'm sure I'd manage to find/make friends. :-)
Whining about whiners. 🤣🤣 ok great input Leeann I've lived here over 30 years now and I was just being honest. This place was fine to grow up in the 90s and early 2000s. Now I can't wait to leave. I'm by far not the only one, I won't go over the reasons they have mostly been covered in the video Just my 2 cents try whatever you want. if you come here and you hate it, I tried to warn you
@@livbar I have been here since 1992. First years were challenging, mainly due to under employment. But things improved . We do have lots of drug victims…because the cartels are well ahead of us, but that’s true everywhere. I am fortunate to live in a thriving part of town with a solid retail core, excellent transit…and neighbors who pay attention. I love reading the dismal Charlie’s who hate, hate, hate…good grief, look in the mirror. There is no perfect place. If you want perfection, move to Issaquah. You will die of boredom and your neighbors will shun you…but you will feel SO superior.
Microsoft people and California transplants ruined Bellevue and made it unaffordable. Bellevue became expensive to live in going back to 1985. It just got worse and worse. Very poor city planning with no consideration whatsoever toward the future and providing affordable housing for the working class. They just got pushed out to Renton, Kent and Tukwila.
Live in Bellevue. The spill over from Seattle is imminent with the hobo express across the 90 bridge. The rent and housing is astronomical. If you can’t afford the $1M price of a home, you are forced to live in Kent, Auburn, Tukwila, etc. which are absolutely dangerous. The Seattle metro is a hellhole.
@@XX-ds1bm Honestly I don't think the train will make any difference since they could've jumped on the 545 express bus anyway to get over there. With that being said I think Bellevue police won't allow the hobos to set up camp since the rich over there won't be ok with that.
Seattle has gone down hill. I grew up there and was very nice city. I left in the 1990s and glad I did. Crime is high and homelessness is way out of control.
I’ve lived in California, Washington, Texas, Nevada and Colorado. Also travel extensively to most states in the US. The people in the PNW, in general, are the most unhappy and rude folks in the country. Some great people in the PNW, just saying in general.
@@liannebedard5521no. Just no. You have no idea what you’re talking about. They’re so much worse in Seattle, and I’ve spent a LOT of time in Boston, since my brother lives there and I’ve done a lot of work in Boston during my career. So yeah, not true, but thanks for playing…
@@Trix897 Me too. Loved the job. I am a Mass. native…. actually a ninth generation native…but we are from an inland region. Previous knowledgeof big city was…Fenway!
It doesn't rain as much as it used to 20+ years ago. Back then, the rainy season would start end of August and last thru June of the following year. It used to be mostly overcast and hovering around 40 degrees on average from end of August thru until after 4th of July of the following year. It has gotten much hotter with more sunny days and beautiful blue sky.
I live in Seattle and own a business here. The downside is the crime, tents, homesless walking around yelling at no one, and the theft causing Walgrens and other retailers to close up. I've been here 20 yrs but a few yrs ago I bought a second home in Texas. Texas doesn't have the problems that Seattle has. It's much less expensive with the exception of prop tax and home owner insurance.
Seattle was a absolute treasure thirty years ago. It was clean,, friendly safe, affordable and incredibly fun place to live or visit. Now, totally the opposite. Im scared to drive through it. So sad.
It has always had a high homeless population and has always been expensive, at least since the '80s when my family came to Seattle. To say total opposite is definitely an extreme exaggeration to anyone who knows what it looked like in the '80s and '90s.
@@captretired159 You are full of it. There were dying alcoholics throughout Pioneer Square and 3rd AVE in the 70s through the 90s. Child prostitutes and addicts congregated at the Donut Shop at 1st and Pike. Aurora AVE was loaded with hookers and addicts. Before that Seattle was polluted from factory and mill smoke and a destination for criminals and drunks and sailors.
@@captretired159 I arrived 32+years ago to a nice city which had clean buses, but no other transit, was basketball drunk, and had an I. Magnin store, where I had shopped carefully, given my modest means, in California. It closed soon after I arrived. I walked through Frederick and Nelson…sorry, but except for the candy, it was a sorry mess. I needed a couple years get my feet really planted… Belltown was safe, had bearable rents, and a great consignment shop where I acquired some appropriately beat up gear…to replace my corporate duds. Deciding never to wear high heels again was the best decision ever. The whole country has changed. The pleasant little town in New England town most of my cousins prospered had opiates long ago, and is a shell of itself now. Seattle has plenty of troubles…almost as many as you have complaints. Now go to Issaquah, Bainbridge, or some other sheltered burg…and cry to your neighbors.
lol you’re talking about times when pike place market was a seedy area 😂 now it’s a beautiful must go area for any tourist or local. Central district at the times you speak of was full of gangs and not much has changed with that. Things shift and move in Seattle but it has treacherous areas with gangs, drugs, shootings, and prostitution always.
@@JacobRose-k9p Pike Place Market is not a must go. It’s a regulated mall. California produce is sold there by liars that claim it is from WA. Merchandise is censored by the market fascists.
He is spot on with taxes. I could get a condo similar to the one I own in Kent in my hometown of Champaign, Illinois. The price would be about 1/3 of what I pay here, but the taxes would be the EXACT SAME AMOUNT. So yeah, I laugh at people who complain about property taxes here.
I'm surprised you cannot discuss crime stats; in order to be able to have a typical middle class life in the seattle metro you need an income of$250k/yr which seldom few jobs can provide I Jane no hope of purchasing a house and my take home pay is roughly 90k; it is rather depressing seeing the price of living increase over the last decade
left Seattle 15 years ago now i live on a island outside of Seattle every time I go bake into Seattle it looks more apocalyptic and gives me an instant headache
I was born and raised in the Downtown Seattle area and have lived here for over half a century. If you think it is bad here you need to visit some other major cities in the US. Or move back to Idaho or Montana.
I lived in West Seattle, Alki beach for 24 years. (My working years, before retiring at 50). At first the weather didn’t bother me, but the CONSTANT GREY, with little blue sky, let alone sunshine almost killed me!! It was like I moved to Seattle with an EMPTY backpack, and every year a heavy brick was placed in the backpack…..24 years, 24 heavy bricks. I couldn’t take it anymore! (Plus, 3 co-workers over time committed suicide!!) I’d also heard about many more suicides over the years. What I missed about Seattle were the charming neighborhoods WITHOUT chain stores. Fremont, Wallingford, California Ave. West Seattle, Madison Park, upper Queen Anne hill, etc. The charm, and character of the shops, cafes, restaurants and pubs were great. (So much of the U.S. are endless big box, chain stores, and AWFUL chain restaurants). ……luckily being a SoCal guy used to beautiful, year-round weather, I’m now in Palm Springs/ Ranch Mirage……PARADISE. …….oh, and that “Seattle Freeze” was VERY real! Lived up there 24 (very LONG) years…made 1 or 2 friends, now back to just the 1!!…..luckily I kept in touch with my SoCal crew over the decades !!😎🥂
When I moved there in the early 2000's it rained (well more drizzle) for 100 days straight. My ex just wasn't ready for it and I had to buy quartz lamps for every room. It does get gloomy there. I'm glad I don't live there anymore.
I've lived in Seattle since 1984 and have never owned a car in my life; I live in the downtown 98101 neighborhood now. I pay a premium to live in central locations where I can walk or take the bus almost everywhere, so I don't mind the occasional Lyft ride. I still save money overall compared to buying a car and paying all the ancillary expenses (fuel, insurance, depreciation, maintenance, etc). Public transit has always been amazing here and keeps improving.
A true Seattleite. I agree. Public transit has always been better here than any where I've ever lived and it only gets better. This is how you live in the city - carless and on the transit system.
I'll say this,born in wa 1978 and raised in king county original Washingtonian here,I've seen the rise of prices go thru the roof,to the point that seattle is starting to look like San Fran or New york,big problems too expensive and that's why people are leaving
I used to live all over Seattle. Alki, West Seattle, Magnolia, Capital Hill, and finally Beacon Hill for about 4 years. I loved it, and then it started getting bad with drugs, homelessness, crime, and MS13. Gangs started moving into my Neighborhood so I moved back to Kent in 2007 because I could affprd to buy there. Every time I go into Seattle now I take the train because I don't want my car broken into. Every station gets worse as you get downtown attempted mugging at China Town, Drugs and public urination at Pioneer, University and Westlake. Seattle is a disgusting public sewer now.
You definitely are a trollbot3728 if you claim MS13 chased you from Seattle to Kent. If you think Seattle is a public sewer, Kent has to be a cess pool.
@johncarroll7555 Maybe East Hill but I live in Riverview the west valley which is actually quite nice but nope Seattle is King Of Shetchy. I just drove through SODO last night and there's police camera poles every 100 feet down every side street.
Spent the first half of my life in Seattle and the other half in California. Seattle weather and all the high trees make me feel clastrophobic. Also making friends in Seattle is tough...Seattle Freeze is real. I know people who moved to Seattle as adults from California and they love it here because the weather and culture is different from what they grew up with. Each person will have a reason why they love or hate Seattle area.
@@couloir1 Aren’t most trees high? You need some kind of an affiliation…church, club membership, regular game attendance, coaching kids’ sports…and it still takes time. Just like New England.
I’ve lived in WA state for 15 years now. We rent now because we can’t afford a house here. Why doesn’t the state government clean up the homeless issues here? Homeless are coming out to the burbs now. The same burbs that you ranked the most popular to reside in.
It's a combo of the leading party's bad/failed policies and politicians constantly selling out to corporate interest instead of citizen interest. People need to face that when you vote your candidate is ACTUALLY the billionaire that gives them the most money. And THEIR interests are outside of national interest. Your country is being fleeced. Your candidates this year are Blackrock and Blackstone. They are buying up everything, rigged the real estate market driving up costs, intentionally drive people into foreclosure and bankruptcy so they can come in with amounts of cash nobody can compete with and buy up all the properties, turn them into rentals HIGHER than market value effectively making the homeless crisis WAY worse etc etc.. etc.. , allow migrants to flood into already hurting working class areas using up their budget and resources and driving up violent crime even more, shut down small organic farms with the green initiatives we voted for to deal with large industry waste but are being used to go after 1/2 acre organic farms with 3 cows because of their supposed over water usage lol. They've been keeping their boots on our necks in so many intentional ways it almost seems like they want this to happen. I feel like our country has been bought out and citizens are now last on the list. The WEF is constantly talking about their inhumane and criminal desire to come after more and more of our freedoms. We vote them in on promises to help the American people and they turn around and allow their woke policies and billionaire donors to do whatever they want regardless of it's impact on us. smh
Moved there in 1998 for school. It was fantastic. Was in Bitter Lake until 2019. When the hookers started pooping in the driveway I sold for a tidy profit and bought a farm far away. You can see my workplace at 13:38. Can't wait to leave permanently.
Moves to Seattle from TX 5 years ago. Can’t wait to get tf out of here. Sure, you can have fun, it’s a big city. But Seattle sucks balls overall. First year here shoes, watch, and phone stolen from a gym, bicycle and car both stolen from the front of my house. Pretty tho, pretty horrible
Yes, but low property tax% on extremely expensive houses - is still a ton of money in taxes!! I'm from Florida, when I left 6 years ago, Orange County tax was 7%, Osceola was 6.5% sales tax, and houses were $250-$300 for a 2000ft2 3/2 - much less expensive in tax burden then a 3/2
Its weird that druggies can get free stuff on the street in Seattle, but I gotta pay 20% + $3 for a bottle of bourbon. Excise taxes SUCK #FirstWorldProblems
It's honestly all relative if you are a native or an implant. I grew up near the big cities in the Northeast and Seattle is no where near as bad as cities in the Northeast.
@buckfiden2807 Houston traffic is awful. So"s Seattle traffic. Traffic is bad here, there and everywhere . Seattle traffic is bad because everyone is moving out of the city to the Eastside, and has to commute. They are finally building a light rail transit to connect Bellevue and Seattle , but they should've done it years ago. I think they need a third bridge across the lake.
Every single comment about "I lived here thirty years ago.... in the '90s I lived here... when it was clean, safe and affordable" I guarantee they all lived in the suburbs. I lived on Capitol Hill and Queen Anne in the '90s and it has always had homelessness and drug abuse and expensive to live here. What has happened since then is has become extremely overpopulated and the contrast from rich to poor has become even greater.
I own a small lot and a 990 square foot house in North Bend $6,200 a year. Income I pay quarterly $1,000 4 times a year and $1,000 at the end in April. Should go down I hope because I retired this year and will know be living on $3,820 a month and my year health insurance is $13,278 a year and a one time payment of $2,150 to my doctors office….. no for the average working man it’s a dream to vacation here and live in Cambodia……
We get it bro. You have a bias. We all can tell you like it here plus you're a real estate agent. Who gives a flip of you have lower property taxes if you can't buy a decent house fir under a million. I'd rather buy a mansion in Texas for 250k than a walkin closet with an outhouse for 400k in Seattle Also crime is way worse because people just don't report it anymore And the rain and grey for soooo many months is so depressing. Moved from Texas 6 years ago and cannot wait to get out of this hell hole
Crime is up for a variety of reasons one being that the response times are so bad. Nobody even does anything about it anymore...And policies that are starting in certain states that give criminals more leverage and rights than the people trying to defend themselves.
Thanks. Haters are always a challenge, but that was well done. One tip is people looking at moving to the area can see what traffic to expect by putting their commute into google maps directions and changing the date and time
i think Seattle is great if you are young and have a decent job there. the lifestyle is perfect for young people and if you are wise you can save up a lot of money. after you saved up enough or just get tired of Seattle you will have the money to move wherever you want.
I live in Lakewood WA. Live within walking distance to three different train/bus transportation hubs. There's lots of shopping and restaurants nearby as well. My car doesn't even warm up on my way to work...my job at Amazon is that close. Here's the kicker. My rent is $675 a month for my own place.
I love how you talk about people wanting to move here 😊 do your research on commuting TIME please I can't stress that enough 😊 big thank you for talking about that. I live on west hill of Auburn ( only because of postman) is my address Auburn. I am still King County 😊 There are so many great off work time places to visit. Vason Island for one. A big secret I had to say is a private camp ground just 1/4 mile from downtown vason. (3) Just like state park camp sites 35 mile by Tacoma ferry from my home. I got a camp site from them on very busy weekend holidays that State parks were full. Take the ferry to Bremerton. Go on the Destroyer ( Turner Joy) then take walk on ferry to port Orchard ( or stay in Bremerton and go through museums of Navy base. Key port has great underseas warfare museum. City of Des Moines started a walk on ferry in summer time to Seattle waterfront. The ( Fish throwers) at Pike Place market are well worth seeing Go the Ballard and you might see crab fishing vessels from ( Deadly catch) TV show. I am just trying to talk about places in Seattle KC area you can see if you move here. Port Townsend was to be the Seattle in sailing ship days. But the Railroad only went to Seattle. Go to furthest point in US at North West corner of State( short walking trail) with benchs to look out at the Island off the coast. Take ferry ride to San Juan Island have great places to go overnight. 😊 I rode the Sounder Train to a Seahawks football game ( got free tickets) 😊 get on train if you want a seat in Lakewood or Tacoma Sumner station is a line up of fans 😊 the Light rail will take you to football game also. 😊 Just get out on the water in a boat, so much waterway in Puget Sound For people moving to Seattle there is a boat rental company ( I don't work for) just saying you can have a boat to enjoy Puget Sound without cost of boat ownership. And believe me, owning a boat in a marine slip is expensive ( yearly maintenance costs) I probably would have done a condo like boat rental service over cost of my 24 foot boat with slip at a marina. This guy talking about Gig Harbor There is a Tavern with dock you can raft up your boats, to enjoy the tavern drinks and food, downtown Gig Harbor is all walking, dont need vehicle. 😊 Great different types of food vendors.
The WA drivers are fools. There are meters at on ramps and the WA drivers on the freeway see the lights and slow to let the other WA drivers enter the freeway at 35 MPH. WA people are hooked on Led Zeppelin and ranch dressing.
About to graduate from college then go into the Air Force become a fire fighter and then move to Seattle and continue after my 4 years of service but hopefully by that time it all cools down.
Born and raised here so am definitely a native. I'm a product of this state and I find us natives who have lived here all our lives will be generally kinder, more pleasant than many folks that move here from somewhere else. That said, I DO agree the state, especially in recent years, both state Gov't and local Gov't has veered too left, too bleeding heart and too progressive for their own good and it's showing with the homeless issues, yes, that includes Tacoma where I live. I moved out of Seattle due to rents taking over half my income, and even now in Tacoma, finding anything below a grand a month without it being either subsedized or a hellhole in a less than desirable area (like along Hosmer St around S 72nd, south in Tacoma) If you are on disability, work low wage jobs etc, finding a place that fits in the 30-40% of one's budget is getting difficult to almost impossible. Even Tacoma/Pierce County, a backwater county, relatively speaking, has had to up their wages to the 18-20 Hr range to get jobs fulfilled and many employers have had to do it kicking and screaming, but they have done so. Loved it back when Governors like Dixie Lee Ray, Booth Gardner and John Spellman were at the helm and overall political landscape was much more tolerable and the homeless population was much less than it is now. Not perfect, but still much less pervasive than it seems now. I used to walk all over Seattle, downtown, Queen Anne Hill, Capitol Hill and often would be out on foot for 2 good hours, meandering all over the place. Until recent years, Seattle was fantastic for us adventurous types, just maintain common sense and situational awareness of your surroundings and I have not had any issues being out and about. I need to do more walking now here in Tacoma than I have been in recent years. I'm so glad Inslee has had his two terms, he's one of the worst Governors around and much of the state legislature follows suit and has hurt the state. As to the rain, Puget Sound on average, outside of the convergence zone that sits between Everett and Seattle, much of the I-5 corridor is in the rain shadow so the amount of spittly light rain we get a lot from Oct to April is just that, pervasive and when not raining, it's cloudy and I have learned to compensate by using warm/soft white bulbs, and turn lights on, even in the day time as all this gloom affects me negatively. But the flip side is, our summers are always warm and dry and sunny.
The great places to live that you mention that don’t have the homeless encampments and crime expect to pay 1 million minimum for a home, many over 2 million. Also, if you’re farther away from the big homeless problem expect to spend at least an hour in traffic every morning. Also there is not an inability to expand roads, it’s poor planning. Don’t approve a 800 home subdivision next to a two lane road before improving the roads.
I usually don’t make any comments on TH-cam. But I felt compelled to write a comment since I just move to Seattle. I’m living in East Renton and absolutely love it. The people here are nice and friendly. My kids are in a great Issaquah school district. I have never realized the amazing convenience of the school bus system. I always had to drop my kids off and there’s been so many stressful days where I had to get the kids ready and make sure they get to school on time. I literally walk one minute across the street and a school bus picks my kids up and I can go back to my house and to keeping my breakfast and coffee. There’s plenty of diverse food. I was worried I’ll miss the Asian supermarkets but there are plenty for me to choose and go to. I came here for the no state income tax and the plan to work in the aviation industry. So far I feel this has been the right choice for me and my family. Renton has been a good middle point where I have access to go to Seattle or Bellevue. I love sports and all sports are here that I can root for. From baseball, football, wnba, hockey, soccer etc. and I know the SuperSonics are coming back because the NBA is going to expand the teams I will admit I’m coming from San Francisco so I probably will get some California hate. But 1% of property tax is like understood and not a deal breaker because I’m used to it. I was worried about the weather too but it’s been great and for spring and summer. So much nature. So much water. So much to offer. In the winter time I’m excited to get to the mountains. I think Seattle like SF has its homeless and drug problems. But that’s why I live in the suburbs. Housing will always go up. And traffic suck. But again coming from California. The affordability has been a lot better and traffic is not that bad at all. Anyways. Loving Washington so far and looking forward to 4 seasons.
I can dig it. Lived in Renton most of my life even went to Renton High. You live on the better side though. It’s raw in some areas of Renton but it comes with the territory. If you’re coming from Frisco you’ll find a lot of relatively common things ( exclude the politics ) here in Seattle. I like to compare King county to the likes of the Bay Area! Just with pine trees and gray skies most of the year. And by the way I’m not that friendly 😂
I move to Seattle in the early 90's and never felt the 'Freeze' or was even aware of it until a decade later reading about it online. Maybe the vast immigration program that is outnumbering Americans 10 to 1 with foreigners in Seattle and Bellevue since tech/internet has brought in scab workers of low standing no one wants to talk to.
Seattle operates on a much worse tax structure than the numbers of WA State as a whole, you are misrepresenting the realities of taxes in Seattle which is the topic vs the reality of taxes of the state as a whole in my opinion.
We bought a condo near the water (Alki). So so happy!!! Walking area. Events. Food and coffee availability. So happy! The plan was to live there (near the water, not on it $$$) until full retirement. Then: crime and homeless came. Shootings. Stabbings. Gangs fighting on the beach. Even the volleyball people were rude and took over not only the beach, but the sidewalks! We were very concerned. Then the homeless came. Not safe to walk at night anymore. Sad. Then they were everywhere. Screaming at people. Going through trashcans. Sleeping on the benches. All ages. Drugs in the bathrooms. Not safe to walk in the daytime?? Oh no. Cars broken into and some left on blocks... What was left of them. Screaming fights on the streets. Drunken fools driving on tiny beach streets. One hit a tree and flipped his car! A tiny street! Then they came for our dumpster. Rummaging through it and yelling at us, the residents of the condo building. Last straw. Sold condo. Left my lovely beach-adjacent home. Dream vanished. Police defunded. No responses. No help anyway with homeless. No help unless shooting or stabbing. If someone passed out on the street? Oh well. Not dead. So so sad.
@@carsonfarley2560 Boeing is based out of Virginia now with their manufacturing based in Everett and Microsoft is based in Redmon and Costco in Issaquah.
As far as Rain we have the ( Rain Forest) on the coast by Town of Forks. Great camping on coast in rain forest 😊 I kind of copyed what King County did with surface water management 😊 dug my down spouts to a well of rocks in backyard. Just saying to deal with rain fall I do like how housing development must build a retention pond in new development housing sites 😊 and important that county overseeing these run off big ponds ( Federal grants) help fund them. Great for storm water control
Living in Kenmore which is a very small community, I just do my best not to drive south on the west side of Lake Washington. I really dislike traveling on Hwy 5, 405 doesn't seem too bad. My 1 surprise when I moved here in 2021 was the license plate tax in King county for my CR-V is $500.++ per year. Lack of sunshine was also a surprise as I moved from TX but we just adapted as a mater of course. Rain? It doesn't rain ANYTHING like Houston where we have FROG STRANGULAR rain-LOL, i see hardly anyone has or uses an umbrella here. I Houston just getting out of your can result in being Totally Drenched..
I think the negatives are trends that most metropolitans share now. The low tide grounds all boats. You can get used to the rain. It keeps the state green and it washes the gunk off the sidewalks. In California, it rains so rarely that the periodic sidewalk power-washing can barely keep the sidewalks clean. Also, the rain deters sidewalk sleeping. Hobos just lay out for a nap in the middle of busy sidewalks in California. Folks in Seattle can be a bit passive-aggressive, but that's a positive. At least, they lead with passive and even friendly. Most cities, it's aggressive from the start and all day long. I loved Seattle when it was a blue-collar town, kind to outsiders, and humble. I hope the influx of out-of-state folk and newer immigrants don't change the character of the city too much.
So many Debbie Downers. I live in the Seattle metro area and love it. I’ve lived in numerous other states and cities. Guess what, they all have their share of problems and complainers because you will not find a perfect place unless you’re making 500k+ per year. I would say, there are other states that would provide a better quality of life if you make under 150k per year.
I LOVE living in Seattle. I and my husband and spouse actually own our "forever" home in Renton now, just a little SW of Seattle proper. We moved here from Burien, and I still own the home in Burien and rent it out. We moved to Renton for a better commute for my husband to Microsoft, but now he is very lucky to be able to work from home permanently. I wish all employers would be as wise as MS has been in that regard, The traffic and everyone's lives would benefit so much. But I am a creature of the woods and the night and the gloom. I am a lifelong night-owl and as a person with Lupus, I am literally allergic to the sun (sun exposure makes Lupus worse). I have sensitive eyes and bright light hurts them. I can't stand big open spaces. I feel lost in areas where I can't see the mountains -- and mountains means snow-caps to me. (Or at least know they're there, outside -- with the Lupus I don't always actually get out much.) And I love being near the water as well, even if I don't actually get down *to* the water that often. Just being able to see it everywhere when going places feels right, feels home. I don't deal well with extremes of heat or cold, so I like the mild climate here. Although it's less and less mild, especially in the summer heat these days, with global warming. :( We NEVER used to need air conditioning in the Puget Sound. There were always maybe 2 weeks in August when it would be a bit hot and you would think an air conditioner might be nice, but then it would pass and you wouldn't think about it again until the next year. That's not true any more. We had AC put in with a heat pump system a few years ago and we use the AC all summer now. It gets well over 80 much of the time and often well over 90 and sometimes over 100. Unheard of temps around here until recently. Insane, and it just keeps getting hotter. I think it is true that in a few years, our children will not be able to live anywhere on the planet. And thanks to the insanity of politics, that doesn't seem likely to change. Anyway. To take the discussion in another direction, culturally, Seattle cannot be beat. If you are a member of or an ally to a minority or an alternative lifestyles and want to live somewhere supportive, you can't do better than Seattle.
@Angi_Mathochist Now that's alarming. Growing up in the 70s, it was rare that a heatwave lasted more than a few days. Even so, it was mitigated by a cool breeze if you were near water. You just opened the windows at night. Also, not alot of mosquitos.
People who hate it should leave. The US is a big place. Go find a place you love. As a lifelong Seattle area resident, I know there are good things and bad things, but all in all, I can’t think of any other place I would like any better. People like to complain, especially on social media. Maybe their energy would be better spent looking for new options that would make them happy so they don’t feel the need to complain.
@Lelffy You are the typical Seattle person who will get upset and offended when people tell the truth about how much of crap hole this city is. Always trying to defend this place when people state the obvious of what's going on here.
@ralphjohnson3202 yall don't realize how good u have it. People would want to live in seattle yet u don't realize the bullshit some people live in. It's laughable that u people act like this 🥲😭😭😭
Seattle is a great city and WA state is one of the highest rated states in the US. Great culture, sports, art, music, international business, and a beautiful city.
None of these commenters live in Seattle city proper (not metro area, the actual city from Lake City to Rainier Beach/West Seattle)😂. It’s pricey, there’s some homeless druggies here & there…but no where near everywhere, & if you don’t like moderate seasons or hot summers & 5 months of grey, this might not be the place for you. But if you don’t like it…please go take yourself to a conservative red town, city or state. You’ll be happy there. You’ll feel at home. You’ll love the lack of diversity & public transit. Take the video guy’s advice-the suburbs are your happy place. For the rest us: we love our “little liberal hellhole” 😈
@@prohib8707 I meant 11 months of grey. I’ve only seen the sun on the 4th of July and then a few more weeks until Sea Fair & Bumbershoot started. It’s been grey for so long my sun room is literally giving me life. Please don’t move here, you wouldn’t handle the darkness…unless you’re a vampire.
I love Portland Oregon. I've lived here since 1967, and then I went to Portland, where they don't have sprawl because they have growth limits. Developers are not allowed to commit sprawl. It's illegal to build on wetlands in Oregon, not Washington. Portland has not only Forest Park, they have nature parks everywhere. Portland was laying light rail tracks 40 years before Seattle. Because Seattle wanted stadiums and sports franchise instead of light rail. Meanwhile Auburn has quadrupled in population in 30 years. I feel so isolated here. And that is because of a gross lack of transit. Everything is way to expensive, and the utter lack of community is totally depressing. I don't mind the rain one bit. I never get tired of the stunning nature beauty but I hate what it's become. Oligarch paradise. Do your thing I'm a right winger? Washington state likes to think it's self left but the the taxes is very right.
@@michelleburkholder2547 there is nothing “right” about WA’s taxes lol. It’s literally the opposite. WA is a solid blue state so expect some solid blue taxes. And no you’re not a right winger because you prefer Portland to Auburn. In some ways I would say that Portland is more left than Seattle lol. And of course you’re isolated in Auburn, you’re in a Seattle suburb. There’s nothing out there but the Sounder Train. That’s like living in Woodburn & saying you’re isolated from Portland 😂
I left Houston because I’d grown to hate Houston & TX in general I’ll take Seattle and WA over TX !! Property taxes are higher in TX I love the mountains & ocean here & Love the temperate climate. 🏔️
Those who hate Seattle, they can leave if they don't like it here. Seattle's crime rate has been on the rise since this huge wave of people from all walks of life moved here in the mid 2000's.
Seattle is a great place to live, just not in the city. Mild weather, lots of places to hike, plenty of water, best summers in the world. We just have some of the most insane politicians in the world as well... so there's that.
I hear most people complain about their $800 tabs. How about don't buy the 100k car if you can't afford 1k to renew your tabs? The cheaper the car the cheaper the tabs, you know.
You missed the mark talking about taxes. The original video was referring to leaving King County/Seattle Suburbs. Showing the entires state avg on taxes is a completely different conversation. Show Seattle/King county and this changes the conversation. Sales tax is 10.35% is Seattle (almost 2% higher than your video shows for the state. Property tax in Seattle is 1.05% vs the 0.88% shown. Based on the median house price that 0.17% is $1700/yr difference. This is why people in Seattle are moving out of the state or to different parts of the state. Get your facts straight my guy.
I live in a suburb of Seattle and it is constantly growing in population there's so many people moving in here it's nuts oh my God I'm starting to sound like Trump anyways I love it I love it here people are kind and nice and nothing like Los Angeles
These are mostly people who want to bitch, moan and blame other people for their problems. Taxes are there to pay for things complainers take for granted and want for free. Yes, crime and the police are a problem but is everywhere and can be worked on.
I moved to Seattle from the Midwest in 1999 and loved it, it was great for many years then slowly started a downhill trajectory, which then moved into a freefall. I tried to remain positive and hoped it would dig itself out, but I moved out to Issaquah in February because I just straight up didn't feel safe anymore and at this point, I sadly don't think anything will change until it literally hits rock bottom, and even then, I'm not super confident it will change. There is a very real chance that this city will be a shithole for the rest of my life and as someone who remembers the beauty of a couple decades ago, it is truly heartbreaking.
I have lived in every US region in a long and adventurous life. I have had some of my best times in unassuming places which are not famous, or outstandingly beautiful. I have been miserable in the capital of my home state…could not wait to leave…and have now been in Seattle for 30 years. People who call Seattle crappy names…are welcome to move tomorrow. If you bought property, you get no sympathy from me. Sell it and move to the South. You can buy well and,if are willing to join a church OR a golf thingie, you can have s beginner social life in a month. But lay off with the sewer mouth. Move…
Only shithole place is the midwest
Another example of the rude people who live here
Issaquah? Dear God, you really have given up. Why don’t you move east of the mountains? It’s a different state, but has so much more than in the past. And you could grouse about Seattle to your heart’s content. It has wineries, great farms, Lake Chelan…and is still in Seahawks country. I make it a point to talk to farmers who staff the markets…just because. Hardworking, likable people…. And Idaho is close enough to visit. Just a hunch…
You probably need to join something…if not church, then golf, bike club…something. It’s Trump country, so proceed carefully, but that’s not insurmountable. Good luck…
@@liannebedard5521 He can have his opinion if he wants. It's a comment section where people are invited to share their comments 🙄
I've lived here my whole life and understand the beauty both rural and urban and also understand being disappointed in the loss of that in certain areas. People don't need to shut up and pretend reality isn't happening or pretend they don't have opinions about it just to soothe your ego.
The Seattle Freeze: they’ll smile and be polite, but want nothing to do with you. Not exactly the usually friendly American culture I grew up with. Seattle was a difficult adjustment
You obviously have not lived in Boston….
I'm actually glad I moved away! Don't miss either the gloomy weather, high rents or "Seattle freeze"!😊
If that was the only problem it would be a utopia. Thats the least of our concerns
I have been met with blank stares and frozen faces because I say Hello or Howdy to almost everyone I meet on the street or in stores, just a friendly guy...
@@NightRidah777 there’s a reason seattle has always had a high s**cide rates (getting better) and one of the highest single occupancy rates in terms of housing. It’s a very lonely city with a huge dr*g and human trafficking problem. One of the worst in the country. We also have a history of shoddy infrastructure projects but that’s everywhere in the US
I live in eastern Washington. I used to like to go to Seattle. In Portland. Now I avoid the west side like the plague. They used to be gorgeous cities. But they are just terrible now. I hope something changes in this state soon. I’m not holding out much hope but We’ll see I guess.
It's called liberalism. They sucked the life out of Seattle
Stop voting for the Democrats!
Eastern WA is a dump.
Rain, expensive, drugs, asshole employers, rude people - what's not to love?
What a difference 10 years can make. Very sad to see.
You forgot bad traffic. Agreed on the rest of your list.
@@sohailhines and the Entitled A$$Hole drivers........
And fresh air, temperate climate, plentiful water, trees, skiing, hiking, wealth and resilient economy.
Most importantly: as the climate changes it will remain livable; unlike the rapidly degenerating hellscapes with depleted aquifers of the south & southeast. Y’all have about 20 years before you’ll be trying to move in - if you’ve got the millions; otherwise you’re out on the streets with the rest of the garbage, just as nature intended.
The ONLY thing worth worrying about here it is the subduction zone beneath our feet. That’s real scary and utterly unpredictable. The rest? Pffft.
Ohhhhhhh yeah that's all true! Please leave. Seriously. Get out!
I absolutely hate living in Seattle for all the reasons listed. I will be moving as soon as possible
Trade ya... I live in Austin.... dreaming of Seattle ❤
@@livbar The kind of whiners who post about the horrors of Seattle are probably not your best sources of anything accurate. If you have a church, sports, or nonprofit connection, find some active participants and question them. Seattle housing is very expensive, but software jobs are abundant. If you like football, baseball, soccer…oh my.
@liannebedard5521 thank you for the info :-) I've visited Seattle in the past.. 3 times last year.... gorgeous views in every direction... sea of green..
Every big city has its pros and cons...I've lived in LA... Philly...
Seattle is amazing. 👏
I know people aren't as friendly as here in TX but that's ok.. I'm super friendly.. I'm sure I'd manage to find/make friends. :-)
Whining about whiners. 🤣🤣 ok great input Leeann
I've lived here over 30 years now and I was just being honest. This place was fine to grow up in the 90s and early 2000s. Now I can't wait to leave. I'm by far not the only one, I won't go over the reasons they have mostly been covered in the video
Just my 2 cents try whatever you want. if you come here and you hate it, I tried to warn you
@@livbar I have been here since 1992. First years were challenging, mainly due to under employment. But things improved . We do have lots of drug victims…because the cartels are well ahead of us, but that’s true everywhere. I am fortunate to live in a thriving part of town with a solid retail core, excellent transit…and neighbors who pay attention. I love reading the dismal Charlie’s who hate, hate, hate…good grief, look in the mirror. There is no perfect place. If you want perfection, move to Issaquah. You will die of boredom and your neighbors will shun you…but you will feel SO superior.
Microsoft people and California transplants ruined Bellevue and made it unaffordable. Bellevue became expensive to live in going back to 1985. It just got worse and worse. Very poor city planning with no consideration whatsoever toward the future and providing affordable housing for the working class. They just got pushed out to Renton, Kent and Tukwila.
Honeslty i think pricing people out was good for bellevue. All the riff raff and drug addicts are bunched up in Seattle
CA people have improved WA.
Live in Bellevue. The spill over from Seattle is imminent with the hobo express across the 90 bridge. The rent and housing is astronomical. If you can’t afford the $1M price of a home, you are forced to live in Kent, Auburn, Tukwila, etc. which are absolutely dangerous. The Seattle metro is a hellhole.
@@XX-ds1bm Honestly I don't think the train will make any difference since they could've jumped on the 545 express bus anyway to get over there. With that being said I think Bellevue police won't allow the hobos to set up camp since the rich over there won't be ok with that.
@@markpreston6930 Lol, like how CA is a really great place to live now as well? CA did NO SUCH THING. Our state's cities SUCK now.
I've lived in the Seattle area since 1967. It's the dank cool temps that get me.
Seattle has gone down hill. I grew up there and was very nice city. I left in the 1990s and glad I did. Crime is high and homelessness is way out of control.
Open borders!
Jesus u people are truely brainwashed lol @@simon359
Moved to Seattle just before COVID, can't wait to escape from this state in a few months.
Me too. And I've lived here since 1967.
I’ve lived in California, Washington, Texas, Nevada and Colorado. Also travel extensively to most states in the US. The people in the PNW, in general, are the most unhappy and rude folks in the country. Some great people in the PNW, just saying in general.
It's more European that way.
WA people are boring and into ancient shit such as mayonnaise and Pink Floyd.
@@cwhite1249 You haven’t met Boston. I hear it has lots of Brazilians now.. THAT might help…
@@liannebedard5521no. Just no.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
They’re so much worse in Seattle, and I’ve spent a LOT of time in Boston, since my brother lives there and I’ve done a lot of work in Boston during my career.
So yeah, not true, but thanks for playing…
@@Trix897 Me too. Loved the job. I am a Mass. native…. actually a ninth generation native…but we are from an inland region. Previous knowledgeof big city was…Fenway!
It doesn't rain as much as it used to 20+ years ago. Back then, the rainy season would start end of August and last thru June of the following year. It used to be mostly overcast and hovering around 40 degrees on average from end of August thru until after 4th of July of the following year. It has gotten much hotter with more sunny days and beautiful blue sky.
Your statement has very little to do with fact and everything to do with perception. Seattle doesn’t rain anymore than Paris 🇫🇷.
Cold, wet, cloudy, dreary for Oregon and Washington. Lack of sunshine during the winter.
I live in Seattle and own a business here. The downside is the crime, tents, homesless walking around yelling at no one, and the theft causing Walgrens and other retailers to close up. I've been here 20 yrs but a few yrs ago I bought a second home in Texas. Texas doesn't have the problems that Seattle has. It's much less expensive with the exception of prop tax and home owner insurance.
Washington has no income tax…so the rest of the economy must make it up…in all kinds of ways.
Seattle was a absolute treasure thirty years ago. It was clean,, friendly safe, affordable and incredibly fun place to live or visit.
Now, totally the opposite. Im scared to drive through it. So sad.
It has always had a high homeless population and has always been expensive, at least since the '80s when my family came to Seattle. To say total opposite is definitely an extreme exaggeration to anyone who knows what it looked like in the '80s and '90s.
@@captretired159 You are full of it. There were dying alcoholics throughout Pioneer Square and 3rd AVE in the 70s through the 90s. Child prostitutes and addicts congregated at the Donut Shop at 1st and Pike. Aurora AVE was loaded with hookers and addicts. Before that Seattle was polluted from factory and mill smoke and a destination for criminals and drunks and sailors.
@@captretired159 I arrived 32+years ago to a nice city which had clean buses, but no other transit, was basketball drunk, and had an I. Magnin store, where I had shopped carefully, given my modest means, in California. It closed soon after I arrived. I walked through Frederick and Nelson…sorry, but except for the candy, it was a sorry mess. I needed a couple years get my feet really planted…
Belltown was safe, had bearable rents, and a great consignment shop where I acquired some appropriately beat up gear…to replace my corporate duds. Deciding never to wear high heels again was the best decision ever.
The whole country has changed. The pleasant little town in New England town most of my cousins prospered had opiates long ago, and is a shell of itself now.
Seattle has plenty of troubles…almost as many as you have complaints. Now go to Issaquah, Bainbridge, or some other sheltered burg…and cry to your neighbors.
lol you’re talking about times when pike place market was a seedy area 😂 now it’s a beautiful must go area for any tourist or local. Central district at the times you speak of was full of gangs and not much has changed with that. Things shift and move in Seattle but it has treacherous areas with gangs, drugs, shootings, and prostitution always.
@@JacobRose-k9p Pike Place Market is not a must go. It’s a regulated mall. California produce is sold there by liars that claim it is from WA. Merchandise is censored by the market fascists.
This guy is gaslighting you. DO NOT COME TO THE SEATTLE AREA.
Yup. He’s full of crap.
@@baronofgreymatter14 Apparently your message is not working, at least with people who have money to spend on cruises, sports, and live music.
He is spot on with taxes.
I could get a condo similar to the one I own in Kent in my hometown of Champaign, Illinois. The price would be about 1/3 of what I pay here, but the taxes would be the EXACT SAME AMOUNT.
So yeah, I laugh at people who complain about property taxes here.
I'm surprised you cannot discuss crime stats; in order to be able to have a typical middle class life in the seattle metro you need an income of$250k/yr which seldom few jobs can provide I Jane no hope of purchasing a house and my take home pay is roughly 90k; it is rather depressing seeing the price of living increase over the last decade
It was a very savvy move to make a video about people’s chief complaints! Well done. And your other videos are very good as well!
left Seattle 15 years ago now i live on a island outside of Seattle every time I go bake into Seattle it looks more apocalyptic and gives me an instant headache
So go to Bellevue.
@@liannebedard5521not a bad area to pricey for me I was living in the central district
I was born and raised in the Downtown Seattle area and have lived here for over half a century. If you think it is bad here you need to visit some other major cities in the US. Or move back to Idaho or Montana.
SEATTLE IS LIKE LIVING IN A STAINLESS STEEL POT. If you can't stand constant overcast don't bother moving to the PNW.
I lived in West Seattle, Alki beach for 24 years. (My working years, before retiring at 50). At first the weather didn’t bother me, but the CONSTANT GREY, with little blue sky, let alone sunshine almost killed me!! It was like I moved to Seattle with an EMPTY backpack, and every year a heavy brick was placed in the backpack…..24 years, 24 heavy bricks. I couldn’t take it anymore! (Plus, 3 co-workers over time committed suicide!!) I’d also heard about many more suicides over the years. What I missed about Seattle were the charming neighborhoods WITHOUT chain stores. Fremont, Wallingford, California Ave. West Seattle, Madison Park, upper Queen Anne hill, etc. The charm, and character of the shops, cafes, restaurants and pubs were great. (So much of the U.S. are endless big box, chain stores, and AWFUL chain restaurants). ……luckily being a SoCal guy used to beautiful, year-round weather, I’m now in Palm Springs/ Ranch Mirage……PARADISE. …….oh, and that “Seattle Freeze” was VERY real! Lived up there 24 (very LONG) years…made 1 or 2 friends, now back to just the 1!!…..luckily I kept in touch with my SoCal crew over the decades !!😎🥂
When I moved there in the early 2000's it rained (well more drizzle) for 100 days straight. My ex just wasn't ready for it and I had to buy quartz lamps for every room. It does get gloomy there. I'm glad I don't live there anymore.
I've lived in Seattle since 1984 and have never owned a car in my life; I live in the downtown 98101 neighborhood now. I pay a premium to live in central locations where I can walk or take the bus almost everywhere, so I don't mind the occasional Lyft ride. I still save money overall compared to buying a car and paying all the ancillary expenses (fuel, insurance, depreciation, maintenance, etc). Public transit has always been amazing here and keeps improving.
A true Seattleite. I agree. Public transit has always been better here than any where I've ever lived and it only gets better. This is how you live in the city - carless and on the transit system.
I'll say this,born in wa 1978 and raised in king county original Washingtonian here,I've seen the rise of prices go thru the roof,to the point that seattle is starting to look like San Fran or New york,big problems too expensive and that's why people are leaving
I used to live all over Seattle. Alki, West Seattle, Magnolia, Capital Hill, and finally Beacon Hill for about 4 years. I loved it, and then it started getting bad with drugs, homelessness, crime, and MS13. Gangs started moving into my Neighborhood so I moved back to Kent in 2007 because I could affprd to buy there. Every time I go into Seattle now I take the train because I don't want my car broken into. Every station gets worse as you get downtown attempted mugging at China Town, Drugs and public urination at Pioneer, University and Westlake. Seattle is a disgusting public sewer now.
You definitely are a trollbot3728 if you claim MS13 chased you from Seattle to Kent. If you think Seattle is a public sewer, Kent has to be a cess pool.
Kent is so sketchy compared to Seattle,
@johncarroll7555 Maybe East Hill but I live in Riverview the west valley which is actually quite nice but nope Seattle is King Of Shetchy. I just drove through SODO last night and there's police camera poles every 100 feet down every side street.
Last trip there I witnessed a literal dumpster fire at the QFC on South Ranier. So exciting.
Spent the first half of my life in Seattle and the other half in California. Seattle weather and all the high trees make me feel clastrophobic. Also making friends in Seattle is tough...Seattle Freeze is real.
I know people who moved to Seattle as adults from California and they love it here because the weather and culture is different from what they grew up with.
Each person will have a reason why they love or hate Seattle area.
@@couloir1 Aren’t most trees high?
You need some kind of an affiliation…church, club membership, regular game attendance, coaching kids’ sports…and it still takes time. Just like New England.
After 2 years we left this hell
@mayacohen2774 Don't blame you.
I Relocated to Cle Elum 10 years, after a 25 year run in Seatte. Passive house now, low bills and 300 days of sunshine.
I’ve lived in WA state for 15 years now. We rent now because we can’t afford a house here. Why doesn’t the state government clean up the homeless issues here? Homeless are coming out to the burbs now. The same burbs that you ranked the most popular to reside in.
It's a combo of the leading party's bad/failed policies and politicians constantly selling out to corporate interest instead of citizen interest. People need to face that when you vote your candidate is ACTUALLY the billionaire that gives them the most money. And THEIR interests are outside of national interest. Your country is being fleeced. Your candidates this year are Blackrock and Blackstone. They are buying up everything, rigged the real estate market driving up costs, intentionally drive people into foreclosure and bankruptcy so they can come in with amounts of cash nobody can compete with and buy up all the properties, turn them into rentals HIGHER than market value effectively making the homeless crisis WAY worse etc etc.. etc.. , allow migrants to flood into already hurting working class areas using up their budget and resources and driving up violent crime even more, shut down small organic farms with the green initiatives we voted for to deal with large industry waste but are being used to go after 1/2 acre organic farms with 3 cows because of their supposed over water usage lol. They've been keeping their boots on our necks in so many intentional ways it almost seems like they want this to happen. I feel like our country has been bought out and citizens are now last on the list. The WEF is constantly talking about their inhumane and criminal desire to come after more and more of our freedoms. We vote them in on promises to help the American people and they turn around and allow their woke policies and billionaire donors to do whatever they want regardless of it's impact on us. smh
Moved there in 1998 for school. It was fantastic. Was in Bitter Lake until 2019. When the hookers started pooping in the driveway I sold for a tidy profit and bought a farm far away. You can see my workplace at 13:38. Can't wait to leave permanently.
Change the liberal leadership...
Yep,, but good luck.
Moves to Seattle from TX 5 years ago. Can’t wait to get tf out of here. Sure, you can have fun, it’s a big city. But Seattle sucks balls overall. First year here shoes, watch, and phone stolen from a gym, bicycle and car both stolen from the front of my house. Pretty tho, pretty horrible
Yes, but low property tax% on extremely expensive houses - is still a ton of money in taxes!! I'm from Florida, when I left 6 years ago, Orange County tax was 7%, Osceola was 6.5% sales tax, and houses were $250-$300 for a 2000ft2 3/2 - much less expensive in tax burden then a 3/2
Its weird that druggies can get free stuff on the street in Seattle, but I gotta pay 20% + $3 for a bottle of bourbon. Excise taxes SUCK #FirstWorldProblems
Anyone complaining about Seattle traffic should try Houston. You ain't seen nothing yet.
It's honestly all relative if you are a native or an implant. I grew up near the big cities in the Northeast and Seattle is no where near as bad as cities in the Northeast.
@@buckfiden2807 Houston has twice the population. They have widened I-69/US 77 all the way to Corpus Christi. It has improved.
@@Nikes62 was there a few months, Katy to Tomball took forever even on weekend.
@@buckfiden2807the traffic in Houston is still bad I just use the HOV. It has not improved.
@buckfiden2807 Houston traffic is awful. So"s Seattle traffic. Traffic is bad here, there and everywhere . Seattle traffic is bad because everyone is moving out of the city to the Eastside, and has to commute. They are finally building a light rail transit to connect Bellevue and Seattle , but they should've done it years ago. I think they need a third bridge across the lake.
Every single comment about "I lived here thirty years ago.... in the '90s I lived here... when it was clean, safe and affordable" I guarantee they all lived in the suburbs. I lived on Capitol Hill and Queen Anne in the '90s and it has always had homelessness and drug abuse and expensive to live here. What has happened since then is has become extremely overpopulated and the contrast from rich to poor has become even greater.
I own a small lot and a 990 square foot house in North Bend $6,200 a year. Income I pay quarterly $1,000 4 times a year and $1,000 at the end in April. Should go down I hope because I retired this year and will know be living on $3,820 a month and my year health insurance is $13,278 a year and a one time payment of $2,150 to my doctors office….. no for the average working man it’s a dream to vacation here and live in Cambodia……
That’s $6,200 properties tax I meant at beginning
@@carebear2272 if you own your home bring in income is to high. You will not get a break.
We get it bro. You have a bias. We all can tell you like it here plus you're a real estate agent.
Who gives a flip of you have lower property taxes if you can't buy a decent house fir under a million. I'd rather buy a mansion in Texas for 250k than a walkin closet with an outhouse for 400k in Seattle
Also crime is way worse because people just don't report it anymore
And the rain and grey for soooo many months is so depressing. Moved from Texas 6 years ago and cannot wait to get out of this hell hole
Crime is up for a variety of reasons one being that the response times are so bad. Nobody even does anything about it anymore...And policies that are starting in certain states that give criminals more leverage and rights than the people trying to defend themselves.
Thanks. Haters are always a challenge, but that was well done. One tip is people looking at moving to the area can see what traffic to expect by putting their commute into google maps directions and changing the date and time
SOoo basically its CA with an Amazon factory now.
When I was a kid, the Kent Valley was farm land. Now it's a sea of Amazon warehouses.
i think Seattle is great if you are young and have a decent job there. the lifestyle is perfect for young people and if you are wise you can save up a lot of money. after you saved up enough or just get tired of Seattle you will have the money to move wherever you want.
I live in Lakewood WA. Live within walking distance to three different train/bus transportation hubs. There's lots of shopping and restaurants nearby as well. My car doesn't even warm up on my way to work...my job at Amazon is that close. Here's the kicker. My rent is $675 a month for my own place.
I love how you talk about people wanting to move here 😊 do your research on commuting TIME please I can't stress that enough 😊 big thank you for talking about that. I live on west hill of Auburn ( only because of postman) is my address Auburn. I am still King County 😊
There are so many great off work time places to visit. Vason Island for one. A big secret I had to say is a private camp ground just 1/4 mile from downtown vason. (3) Just like state park camp sites
35 mile by Tacoma ferry from my home. I got a camp site from them on very busy weekend holidays that State parks were full. Take the ferry to Bremerton. Go on the Destroyer ( Turner Joy) then take walk on ferry to port Orchard ( or stay in Bremerton and go through museums of Navy base. Key port has great underseas warfare museum. City of Des Moines started a walk on ferry in summer time to Seattle waterfront. The ( Fish throwers) at Pike Place market are well worth seeing
Go the Ballard and you might see crab fishing vessels from ( Deadly catch) TV show. I am just trying to talk about places in Seattle KC area you can see if you move here. Port Townsend was to be the Seattle in sailing ship days. But the Railroad only went to Seattle. Go to furthest point in US at North West corner of State( short walking trail) with benchs to look out at the Island off the coast. Take ferry ride to San Juan Island have great places to go overnight. 😊 I rode the Sounder Train to a Seahawks football game ( got free tickets) 😊 get on train if you want a seat in Lakewood or Tacoma
Sumner station is a line up of fans 😊 the Light rail will take you to football game also. 😊 Just get out on the water in a boat, so much waterway in Puget Sound
For people moving to Seattle there is a boat rental company ( I don't work for) just saying you can have a boat to enjoy Puget Sound without cost of boat ownership. And believe me, owning a boat in a marine slip is expensive ( yearly maintenance costs) I probably would have done a condo like boat rental service over cost of my 24 foot boat with slip at a marina. This guy talking about Gig Harbor
There is a Tavern with dock you can raft up your boats, to enjoy the tavern drinks and food, downtown Gig Harbor is all walking, dont need vehicle. 😊 Great different types of food vendors.
The WA drivers are fools. There are meters at on ramps and the WA drivers on the freeway see the lights and slow to let the other WA drivers enter the freeway at 35 MPH. WA people are hooked on Led Zeppelin and ranch dressing.
Compared to California drivers we are awesome 😂
@@Kaltokbetlog WA drivers are fools.
About to graduate from college then go into the Air Force become a fire fighter and then move to Seattle and continue after my 4 years of service but hopefully by that time it all cools down.
Born and raised here so am definitely a native. I'm a product of this state and I find us natives who have lived here all our lives will be generally kinder, more pleasant than many folks that move here from somewhere else.
That said, I DO agree the state, especially in recent years, both state Gov't and local Gov't has veered too left, too bleeding heart and too progressive for their own good and it's showing with the homeless issues, yes, that includes Tacoma where I live.
I moved out of Seattle due to rents taking over half my income, and even now in Tacoma, finding anything below a grand a month without it being either subsedized or a hellhole in a less than desirable area (like along Hosmer St around S 72nd, south in Tacoma) If you are on disability, work low wage jobs etc, finding a place that fits in the 30-40% of one's budget is getting difficult to almost impossible.
Even Tacoma/Pierce County, a backwater county, relatively speaking, has had to up their wages to the 18-20 Hr range to get jobs fulfilled and many employers have had to do it kicking and screaming, but they have done so.
Loved it back when Governors like Dixie Lee Ray, Booth Gardner and John Spellman were at the helm and overall political landscape was much more tolerable and the homeless population was much less than it is now. Not perfect, but still much less pervasive than it seems now.
I used to walk all over Seattle, downtown, Queen Anne Hill, Capitol Hill and often would be out on foot for 2 good hours, meandering all over the place. Until recent years, Seattle was fantastic for us adventurous types, just maintain common sense and situational awareness of your surroundings and I have not had any issues being out and about. I need to do more walking now here in Tacoma than I have been in recent years.
I'm so glad Inslee has had his two terms, he's one of the worst Governors around and much of the state legislature follows suit and has hurt the state.
As to the rain, Puget Sound on average, outside of the convergence zone that sits between Everett and Seattle, much of the I-5 corridor is in the rain shadow so the amount of spittly light rain we get a lot from Oct to April is just that, pervasive and when not raining, it's cloudy and I have learned to compensate by using warm/soft white bulbs, and turn lights on, even in the day time as all this gloom affects me negatively. But the flip side is, our summers are always warm and dry and sunny.
We got music 🎶 but I work 14 hours a day and can barely pay rent.
If you're looking to move to Seattle, check out Aberdeen first. You'll love it there.
The great places to live that you mention that don’t have the homeless encampments and crime expect to pay 1 million minimum for a home, many over 2 million. Also, if you’re farther away from the big homeless problem expect to spend at least an hour in traffic every morning.
Also there is not an inability to expand roads, it’s poor planning. Don’t approve a 800 home subdivision next to a two lane road before improving the roads.
I usually don’t make any comments on TH-cam. But I felt compelled to write a comment since I just move to Seattle.
I’m living in East Renton and absolutely love it. The people here are nice and friendly. My kids are in a great Issaquah school district. I have never realized the amazing convenience of the school bus system. I always had to drop my kids off and there’s been so many stressful days where I had to get the kids ready and make sure they get to school on time. I literally walk one minute across the street and a school bus picks my kids up and I can go back to my house and to keeping my breakfast and coffee.
There’s plenty of diverse food. I was worried I’ll miss the Asian supermarkets but there are plenty for me to choose and go to.
I came here for the no state income tax and the plan to work in the aviation industry. So far I feel this has been the right choice for me and my family.
Renton has been a good middle point where I have access to go to Seattle or Bellevue.
I love sports and all sports are here that I can root for. From baseball, football, wnba, hockey, soccer etc. and I know the SuperSonics are coming back because the NBA is going to expand the teams
I will admit I’m coming from San Francisco so I probably will get some California hate. But 1% of property tax is like understood and not a deal breaker because I’m used to it.
I was worried about the weather too but it’s been great and for spring and summer. So much nature. So much water. So much to offer. In the winter time I’m excited to get to the mountains.
I think Seattle like SF has its homeless and drug problems. But that’s why I live in the suburbs.
Housing will always go up. And traffic suck. But again coming from California. The affordability has been a lot better and traffic is not that bad at all. Anyways. Loving Washington so far and looking forward to 4 seasons.
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Yeah I agree, I don't get it.
Drizzle, rain, partly cloudy, and sleet/slush. Those are the four seasons in western Washington. 12:29
I can dig it. Lived in Renton most of my life even went to Renton High. You live on the better side though. It’s raw in some areas of Renton but it comes with the territory. If you’re coming from Frisco you’ll find a lot of relatively common things ( exclude the politics ) here in Seattle. I like to compare King county to the likes of the Bay Area! Just with pine trees and gray skies most of the year. And by the way I’m not that friendly 😂
California hate? That left about the time the Sonics did. 49ers hate is what you will encounter…
I moved to Seattle area a few years ago. And less than a year, I started missing Midwest. Here many people are rude, no manner, ... No offense.
I move to Seattle in the early 90's and never felt the 'Freeze' or was even aware of it until a decade later reading about it online. Maybe the vast immigration program that is outnumbering Americans 10 to 1 with foreigners in Seattle and Bellevue since tech/internet has brought in scab workers of low standing no one wants to talk to.
Move to phoenix! It is so great here!
Seattle operates on a much worse tax structure than the numbers of WA State as a whole, you are misrepresenting the realities of taxes in Seattle which is the topic vs the reality of taxes of the state as a whole in my opinion.
People are always whining about the homeless, but most of the state doesn't have them and they usually don't bother you anyways.
I love it here. Amazing place to live. Find a ton of confirmation bias when it comes to the vibes.
We bought a condo near the water (Alki). So so happy!!! Walking area. Events. Food and coffee availability. So happy! The plan was to live there (near the water, not on it $$$) until full retirement. Then: crime and homeless came. Shootings. Stabbings. Gangs fighting on the beach. Even the volleyball people were rude and took over not only the beach, but the sidewalks! We were very concerned. Then the homeless came. Not safe to walk at night anymore. Sad. Then they were everywhere. Screaming at people. Going through trashcans. Sleeping on the benches. All ages. Drugs in the bathrooms. Not safe to walk in the daytime?? Oh no. Cars broken into and some left on blocks... What was left of them. Screaming fights on the streets. Drunken fools driving on tiny beach streets. One hit a tree and flipped his car! A tiny street! Then they came for our dumpster. Rummaging through it and yelling at us, the residents of the condo building. Last straw. Sold condo. Left my lovely beach-adjacent home. Dream vanished. Police defunded. No responses. No help anyway with homeless. No help unless shooting or stabbing. If someone passed out on the street? Oh well. Not dead. So so sad.
I left Seattle because it sucks 😊
Seattle ruins the WHOLE state.
@@rickrobbins1037 yeah, all that money is so hard to take.
Right - Boeing, Microsoft, Amazon, Costco, Starbucks . . . how many of those do you and the rest of the world use?
@@carsonfarley2560 you heard me
@@carsonfarley2560 Boeing is based out of Virginia now with their manufacturing based in Everett and Microsoft is based in Redmon and Costco in Issaquah.
@@InterstellarTaco Boeing is a WA Seattle international business with operations in many different states - DUH
As far as Rain we have the ( Rain Forest) on the coast by Town of Forks. Great camping on coast in rain forest 😊
I kind of copyed what King County did with surface water management 😊 dug my down spouts to a well of rocks in backyard. Just saying to deal with rain fall
I do like how housing development must build a retention pond in new development housing sites 😊 and important that county overseeing these run off big ponds ( Federal grants) help fund them. Great for storm water control
Living in Kenmore which is a very small community, I just do my best not to drive south on the west side of Lake Washington. I really dislike traveling on Hwy 5, 405 doesn't seem too bad. My 1 surprise when I moved here in 2021 was the license plate tax in King county for my CR-V is $500.++ per year. Lack of sunshine was also a surprise as I moved from TX but we just adapted as a mater of course. Rain? It doesn't rain ANYTHING like Houston where we have FROG STRANGULAR rain-LOL, i see hardly anyone has or uses an umbrella here. I Houston just getting out of your can result in being Totally Drenched..
The $100 sandwich comment was clearly trolling to deter people from moving here.
It's 30 dollars
I think the negatives are trends that most metropolitans share now. The low tide grounds all boats. You can get used to the rain. It keeps the state green and it washes the gunk off the sidewalks. In California, it rains so rarely that the periodic sidewalk power-washing can barely keep the sidewalks clean. Also, the rain deters sidewalk sleeping. Hobos just lay out for a nap in the middle of busy sidewalks in California.
Folks in Seattle can be a bit passive-aggressive, but that's a positive. At least, they lead with passive and even friendly. Most cities, it's aggressive from the start and all day long. I loved Seattle when it was a blue-collar town, kind to outsiders, and humble. I hope the influx of out-of-state folk and newer immigrants don't change the character of the city too much.
So many Debbie Downers. I live in the Seattle metro area and love it. I’ve lived in numerous other states and cities. Guess what, they all have their share of problems and complainers because you will not find a perfect place unless you’re making 500k+ per year. I would say, there are other states that would provide a better quality of life if you make under 150k per year.
The people, weather, traffic, food scene, lack of diversity and prices suck.
Lack of diversity? You need to get out into the suburbs.
@@jamesdoyle2769 My nice way of saying there's no Black community. In the entire PNW.
Washington is highest in nation in sales and excise tax.
@@maryjanesnow so what, we don't want it
@@maryjanesnowYou might not pay income tax but you're going to make up for it in other taxes Jay Inslee will make sure of that.
You hit tolled also? @@ralphjohnson3202
Everyone here complaining voted democrat for 30 years at least and now the chickens have come home to roost. You get what you voted for.
In Burien my property tax 2014 $3400 currenty over 6k am i missing something?
I LOVE living in Seattle. I and my husband and spouse actually own our "forever" home in Renton now, just a little SW of Seattle proper. We moved here from Burien, and I still own the home in Burien and rent it out. We moved to Renton for a better commute for my husband to Microsoft, but now he is very lucky to be able to work from home permanently. I wish all employers would be as wise as MS has been in that regard, The traffic and everyone's lives would benefit so much.
But I am a creature of the woods and the night and the gloom. I am a lifelong night-owl and as a person with Lupus, I am literally allergic to the sun (sun exposure makes Lupus worse). I have sensitive eyes and bright light hurts them. I can't stand big open spaces. I feel lost in areas where I can't see the mountains -- and mountains means snow-caps to me. (Or at least know they're there, outside -- with the Lupus I don't always actually get out much.) And I love being near the water as well, even if I don't actually get down *to* the water that often. Just being able to see it everywhere when going places feels right, feels home.
I don't deal well with extremes of heat or cold, so I like the mild climate here. Although it's less and less mild, especially in the summer heat these days, with global warming. :( We NEVER used to need air conditioning in the Puget Sound. There were always maybe 2 weeks in August when it would be a bit hot and you would think an air conditioner might be nice, but then it would pass and you wouldn't think about it again until the next year. That's not true any more. We had AC put in with a heat pump system a few years ago and we use the AC all summer now. It gets well over 80 much of the time and often well over 90 and sometimes over 100. Unheard of temps around here until recently. Insane, and it just keeps getting hotter. I think it is true that in a few years, our children will not be able to live anywhere on the planet. And thanks to the insanity of politics, that doesn't seem likely to change.
Anyway. To take the discussion in another direction, culturally, Seattle cannot be beat. If you are a member of or an ally to a minority or an alternative lifestyles and want to live somewhere supportive, you can't do better than Seattle.
Seattle is a a CESSPOOL
Lol tell me you're a leftist without telling me. 🤣
Born in Seattle but i love Renton even more 👌🏽🤘🏽
@@nolanburslie1093was gonna say I stopped reading at Burien slumlord portion
@Angi_Mathochist Now that's alarming. Growing up in the 70s, it was rare that a heatwave lasted more than a few days. Even so, it was mitigated by a cool breeze if you were near water. You just opened the windows at night. Also, not alot of mosquitos.
Ban ranch dressing and Led Zeppelin in WA for 160 years.
People who hate it should leave. The US is a big place. Go find a place you love. As a lifelong Seattle area resident, I know there are good things and bad things, but all in all, I can’t think of any other place I would like any better. People like to complain, especially on social media. Maybe their energy would be better spent looking for new options that would make them happy so they don’t feel the need to complain.
@Lelffy You are the typical Seattle person who will get upset and offended when people tell the truth about how much of crap hole this city is. Always trying to defend this place when people state the obvious of what's going on here.
Very typical life long Seattle resident response. Clueless.
@@cheers70na, yall are clueless lol
@@ralphjohnson3202Use real insults suits next time before opening up ur mouth lol
@ralphjohnson3202 yall don't realize how good u have it. People would want to live in seattle yet u don't realize the bullshit some people live in. It's laughable that u people act like this 🥲😭😭😭
How is Seattle going to host World Cup 2026?!
They proved on MLB allstar weekend that they are capable of cleaning up the city. I’m sure they’ll do it again.
Milk from ohio at 2.50 milk in seattle is 5.50
Real estate people are such thought leaders…
Every one I knew from there moved away.
I’m moving from the other side of Washington in a town called colville, looking for apartments
Do these people really live in Seattle? I don't get it.
Great summary, very honest and exact!
Seattle is a great city and WA state is one of the highest rated states in the US. Great culture, sports, art, music, international business, and a beautiful city.
None of these commenters live in Seattle city proper (not metro area, the actual city from Lake City to Rainier Beach/West Seattle)😂. It’s pricey, there’s some homeless druggies here & there…but no where near everywhere, & if you don’t like moderate seasons or hot summers & 5 months of grey, this might not be the place for you.
But if you don’t like it…please go take yourself to a conservative red town, city or state. You’ll be happy there. You’ll feel at home. You’ll love the lack of diversity & public transit. Take the video guy’s advice-the suburbs are your happy place.
For the rest us: we love our “little liberal hellhole” 😈
You meant to say 9 months of grey.
@@prohib8707 I meant 11 months of grey. I’ve only seen the sun on the 4th of July and then a few more weeks until Sea Fair & Bumbershoot started. It’s been grey for so long my sun room is literally giving me life. Please don’t move here, you wouldn’t handle the darkness…unless you’re a vampire.
I love Portland Oregon. I've lived here since 1967, and then I went to Portland, where they don't have sprawl because they have growth limits. Developers are not allowed to commit sprawl. It's illegal to build on wetlands in Oregon, not Washington. Portland has not only Forest Park, they have nature parks everywhere.
Portland was laying light rail tracks 40 years before Seattle. Because Seattle wanted stadiums and sports franchise instead of light rail. Meanwhile Auburn has quadrupled in population in 30 years.
I feel so isolated here. And that is because of a gross lack of transit. Everything is way to expensive, and the utter lack of community is totally depressing. I don't mind the rain one bit. I never get tired of the stunning nature beauty but I hate what it's become. Oligarch paradise. Do your thing I'm a right winger? Washington state likes to think it's self left but the the taxes is very right.
@@michelleburkholder2547 there is nothing “right” about WA’s taxes lol. It’s literally the opposite. WA is a solid blue state so expect some solid blue taxes. And no you’re not a right winger because you prefer Portland to Auburn. In some ways I would say that Portland is more left than Seattle lol. And of course you’re isolated in Auburn, you’re in a Seattle suburb. There’s nothing out there but the Sounder Train. That’s like living in Woodburn & saying you’re isolated from Portland 😂
BYE FELICIA
I left Houston because I’d grown to hate Houston & TX in general
I’ll take Seattle and WA over TX !!
Property taxes are higher in TX
I love the mountains & ocean here & Love the temperate climate.
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Go back to Texas
Led Zeppelin and ranch dressing disaster area.
I live in Seattle and I love it here. To each their own.
Look at the square footage
I love it here. Cheers from Lake Steven’s.
You and your great school district, nice people, awesome lake and park, yea stay there, we are talking about THE Seattle dumpster 😅
Those who hate Seattle, they can leave if they don't like it here. Seattle's crime rate has been on the rise since this huge wave of people from all walks of life moved here in the mid 2000's.
Because the drug laws are so weak the people moving here are druggie/mentally ill. 90% of our homeless are from out of town
Crime is increasing because all the homeless are moving here. The politicians put out a welcome mat when they decided not to punish criminals
More than the homeless going on. Those damn gangs up to no good out here. Politics and drama. A lot of things that tally up in this category!!
People in Seattle were complaining about the same issue in the late 80s when people from California moved to Seattle.
@@couloir1 Still a problem when politicians are corrupt and weak on violent crime.
Man. I love Seattle. It’s my City.
Try Jackson Mississippi for a day, and see what you think about Seattle.
I can’t believe you would say that adding roads will make traffic better. Learn about induced demand.
Seattle is a great place to live, just not in the city. Mild weather, lots of places to hike, plenty of water, best summers in the world. We just have some of the most insane politicians in the world as well... so there's that.
I hear most people complain about their $800 tabs. How about don't buy the 100k car if you can't afford 1k to renew your tabs? The cheaper the car the cheaper the tabs, you know.
Bob Ferguson
Screwed people over on the car tabs initiative.
Is is what it is---a nightmare...
You missed the mark talking about taxes. The original video was referring to leaving King County/Seattle Suburbs. Showing the entires state avg on taxes is a completely different conversation. Show Seattle/King county and this changes the conversation. Sales tax is 10.35% is Seattle (almost 2% higher than your video shows for the state. Property tax in Seattle is 1.05% vs the 0.88% shown. Based on the median house price that 0.17% is $1700/yr difference. This is why people in Seattle are moving out of the state or to different parts of the state. Get your facts straight my guy.
I live in a suburb of Seattle and it is constantly growing in population there's so many people moving in here it's nuts oh my God I'm starting to sound like Trump anyways I love it I love it here people are kind and nice and nothing like Los Angeles
And they are destroying our way of life. TRUMP 2024!!!!!!
Vote for a Democrat and we’re going to have another 20 to 40,million people coming across the border!
@@simon359 Another Russian bot shut the hell up
It WILL be like Los Angeles soon...
You did real good with your video Bryce. But one day I will come to Seattle.
Thank you!
Bro I will be selling soon. I live in the best place I know of. A dead end street in a suburb area with no drama. Super close to Seattle. Hit me up!
I’d be happy to help out. Can you shokt me a text or email with more info? (425) 598-6607 or bryce@livinginseattlemetro.com
WA state has a regressive tax system. The richer you are the less you pay
To me I find that the best city in America so many working girl who wouldn't ❤ this I want to visit so bad
These are mostly people who want to bitch, moan and blame other people for their problems. Taxes are there to pay for things complainers take for granted and want for free. Yes, crime and the police are a problem but is everywhere and can be worked on.