Israeli Holocaust Scholar: Why Gaza Is Genocide - w/. Prof. Omer Bartov
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- Prof. Omer Bartov is one of the world's pre-eminent experts on genocide. This is a devastating interview - one which explains why now he's changed his view, and believes Israel is committing genocide.
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“He thinks”. OK, so it’s an opinion. No tangible proof. Thank you kindly for confirming that Jenny has not been found.
Thanks for talking with honest people, Owen, unlike the BBC etc.
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude keep defending the perennial villains of the last 3000 years of human history
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dude dbad
mate you are so twitchy on camera.. i think you need to meditate a bit, maybe don't worry and own the fact you are looking into the camera like a newsreader.. maybe get a host to support you... and.. I would also think about your interview style, you don't ask open questions, you are very prescriptive which doesn't come across well to the neutral.. you should read a book called 'The Mom test'... think through that lens.. think you'd take a lot from that. GL
Thank you Owen you are a true hero for us Palestinians ❤❤❤
I said on Reddit that plenty of safe homes exist there and some needy people could use some shelter and Israelis are fleeing in droves anyway....and I was BANNED forever. Yes indeed, nobody is trying to hide the true motivations here....
@@libaz82 "Says Palestinian hiding in Sweden"..
Thank you Owen for your unrelenting clarity and humanity 🕊️🇵🇸🕊️
@@tobiashardy1620 Bot.
There are so many people in Germany who need to listen to Prof. Omer Bartov.
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Germany will not allow peaceful gatherings of Palestinians and they are peaceful Same cannot be said for the police .I'm British and live here and it is sickening , The German. government has banned all .Ironic and sick .There are numerous western politicians who need to stop siding with Netanyahu .Over the one , Britain , and Germany still supply weapons .
And Australia. Most Australians don’t even recognise our g’cide. Can’t learn from history you don’t acknowledge.
I tried, they dont care.
The fact that they are aiding their former victims in facilitating one is disturbing af
Thank you so much, Mr Owen from Palestine 🇵🇸
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very few speak english
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Not true!
L impuissance volontaire de l occident est inadmissible 😡😡😡
Viagra missiles?
the West has given Israel the weapons and bombs to commit genocide . also suppressed the truth of the actual atrocities that have occurred and villainized the protesters who want to save the people of Gaza . the West is complicit .
@@Johnconno Margot is talking about voluntary POLITICAL impotence, not sexual impotence, you drongo!
Owen you just beautiful heart person . Just thank you😢
I sent this guy a supportive note a ways back and he was nice enough to thank me even though I said not to bother as he’s crazy busy. Maybe we should send more notes (emails) of support because this guy and all like him are getting a firehose of hate nonstop.
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A few months after October, they have dropped over 30,000 bommbss on Gaza, 8 times more than US dropped on Iraq in 6 years. Now an equivalent of 2 atomic bommbss have been dropped on Gaza.
- [ ] *_Gaza’s population is about 2 million of which 3/4 are women and children. Israeli’s population 10 million America’s investment billions upon BILLIONS and more billions._*
- [ ] *_How Much Does it cost American & British taxpayers per Palestinian life?_*
- [ ] AMERICAN AID TO ISRAEL:
- [ ] $3.8 Billion in Aid each year
- [ ] $14.1 billion emergency aid + $26 billion est.
- [ ] $38 billion in military aid (allocated within 10 years)
- [ ] $ 8 billion yearly guaranteed loan
- [ ] $500 Million Israel’s drone missile defense system
- [ ] $72 Million US-Israel counter-drone and anti- tunneling cooperation
- [ ] $6 million for US-Israel cybersecurity cooperation grant program
- [ ] $2 million US - Israel homeland security cooperation
- [ ] $3 million healthcare cooperation
- [ ] $6 million water and energy
- [ ] $2 million toward international development cooperation
- [ ] $8 promoting regional peace efforts
Which guy?
@@PaulaGizzi-oo4ziOmer Bartov the guy you just spent an hour watching...or not
you probably wont see this but I need someone to talk to as well. How did you reach him. Please dont ignore this if you see it. You tube wants me to know I really don't exist for how little I am heard. And its DOWNwards from there.
From Ireland
Tx for the great interviews and content 👍
TRUTH will always win!
That’s the puppet in the cartoon stuffed.
@@Fish_N_Chips_DudeSociopathic Fish devouring cancerous chips to make up for non-existent brain cells. Utterly and laughably irrelevant in his very existence.
*_Gaza’s population is about 2 million of which 3/4 are women and children. Israeli’s population 10 million America’s investment billions upon BILLIONS and more billions._*
*_Does it cost American taxpayers millions of dollars per Palestinian life?_*
unfortunately truth is often comes a bit behind
At what cost?
thank you Owen. I know its exhausting but please dont ever stop advocating for the palestinians
Thank you so much for what you’re doing
Israel must be held accountable for war crimes and genocide in Gaza!!..
The Biden administration too as well as Kamala if she continues the policy of arming and protecting Israel to commit genocide.
The US will not allow any punishment of Israel and the West has allowed the US to become its dictator.
No
@@mostafahassan40 yes!
@@mostafahassan40 Z!onism is WORSE than Naz!sm
He says ‘we will never know’ a number of times about Israel’s motives. Israel has explicitly stated their genocidal intent for months if not years now. We know, we have eyes and ears.
Thank U. Why are soldiers ordered not to tape anything? Obviously they want to hide evidences. USA knows everything and supports it all.
I see news articles about injured children everyday. Children with burnt bodies.
This is happening every single day. There should be an outrage.
The fact Biden, Blinken, Harris, Starmer and every other influential "leader" excuses or ignores hurting innocent children is disturbing.
The power the small hats have over American media, politics, and public opinion is deeply disturbing
@@petermcculloch4933si. Es muy inquietante.
@@petermcculloch4933incredible sad truth 😢
There is an outrage and its mostly illegal to care. That's a bigger outrage. The whole world is watching and nobody can do a thing but talk. NOBODY ALIVE was ever prepared for this.. So make sure your talk makes a difference. Go to your the local City Council/Chamber of Commerce and talk about NO BUSINESS SHOULD ENDORSE THIS, likewise no governmental entity should remain quiet about this. Call the White House every day and demand that this STOP. Tell anyone who will listen.
Thanks Owen.
Thank you for never giving up, even though day after day is so frustrating and sad
Exactly
Congrats on the conclusion, but they had always planned for this. They wanted to clear the land one way or another. This wasn’t revenge - they wanted Oct 7 to happen so they could do this. They just didn’t anticipate the PR disaster, given how entitled they are
Their Hasbara failed this time. Palestinians told their experience of barbarism at the hands of the G’cide committing maniacs.
💯 yes!!!
This genocide is truly heart breaking , the Palestinian people are so resilient and strong like no other people , if Israel and everyone supporting it are not heald accountable in our lifetime , be sure they will be in akhirah inshallah
I've just heard about Richard Medhurst's arrest. I'm absolutely horrified that a reporter has been arrested simply for doing his job 😮🤯
Richard made a TH-cam video about his arrest. Shocking news!
This is so horrible. What a dreadful world we live in. 🥲🥲
Owen, you are a shining star in such a dark time. Thank you for bringing light.
A thing to keep in mind while Israel shrinks the humanitarian zones. There is currently a major Polio outbreak in Gaza where there is no mitigating measures possible. As Israel packs the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas, the disease will spread faster.
Yes , they have found traces of the disease in the sewage that is everywhere on the ground...what will happen as the sewage system has been destroyed by you know who..will end up seeping down to the underground water table, then travelling everywhere including to the otherside...REMEMBER there is no wall underground....
And that is on purpose as well. All these diseases were created I'm sorry to tell you.
I just can't..
"The people of Gaza are broadcasting their own execution & the world is watching & we're debating terminologies." ~ Reverend Munther Isaac, Jan 2nd, 2024 - Bethlehem.
the whole world is watching. Its a tv show now. I just cant stand one more minute of this and then I get blocked trying to call the WH. Everyone needs to do something this time. I mean some people love the idea of the end of the world, maybe we really love the grave more than our children. Meanwhile any one of those poor martyrs could be you or me. Theres no rules for who gets to be born WHERE.
It is indeed mind boggling how this horrendous Ge no side is being so obviously perpetrated upon a trapped oppressed people!!!!
I used to point out the similarities YEARS ago with H it l er but was laughed at...shouted at.."u cant say that!!" Or "there's no comparison"!! Etc
I gues they were right coz imo they are worse!
Owen you do great work..take care of urself u look exhausted at times 🙏
@@3SeveredHeads did you see my remark starting with .."The whole world is watching"? I think I am being shadowbanned here.
@@averayugen7802 yes many of my comments have just 'disappeared'....that in itself is a very loud message about the times we now find ourselves living in! 🙏
@@3SeveredHeads Agreed. It is far worse. ☮
The cruelty is ..... can't even express
Can’t even consider it a ‘society’
Thank you to prof Bartov for this analysis
The sad part of such conversations is that people are trying to discuss the relevancy of the term 'genocide '! Meanwhile people are being killed at an alarming rate... as to when are we gonna say it in unison that this is not right and MUST be stopped!!
Owen, take care of yourself ❤❤
Owen, one of the few western journalists who actually dares to speak the truth, and speak out against injustice. An example for the other hypocrites out there. Well done Owen ❤
the horror. 😭
I blame US for this genocide!
Thank you Owen for your principled standing with humanity over inhumanity. Your voice throughout this horrors has been really helpful.
Thank you for everything you do. I hope you are well. I can only imagine how taxing this all must be. Take care and lots of love ❤
What is missing from this man's discussion is that Israel is a settler colonial apartheid state
This genocide started with the Balfour declaration.
What....Prof only NOW thinks its a genocide.....
Read his article, he really does explain how it took him so long.
Thank you Owen 🙏🙏🙏
Actions talk louder than words. Everyone SEES the Intent.
Big shout-out to all Israelis who are in the right side of history ❤🤝🤝
ZERO
@@PJMcG Ilan Pappé, Gideon Levy....
Too bad the common denominator between all these great minds seems to be the grey hair... where is the new generation speaking up? Or are they too indoctrinated?
My country is shameful.
@@LongDefiant UK, America or Israel?
Thank you for your TH-cam posts, I think they are excellent. I am subscribed and always like your videos.
From the first day Netenyahu and compagny wanted to send 2 millions palestinian to Sinai in Egypt and still trying to
Thank you Owen & Mr Bartov! You are awesome!
It has been a genocide since 1948, need no expert to tell me this.
The least successful one in history.
So you are admitting that it is GENOCIDE!!!! Well done , some honesty at last, it's a start.
@@Fish_N_Chips_Dudelook at the territory of Palestinians in 1948 vs now. I’d say it was a success.
Fish N Chios: Thank-you for at last ADMITTING its GENOCIDE! Truth always rises to the surface.
Fish N Chips Dude: Third time putting this comment, always disappears. Here goes, third time lucky:
Thank you for at last ADMITTING that it IS GENOCIDE. Nice polite message, what's the problem?
Instead of arming Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness etc
I am at a point where I can’t listen to a former IDF soldier, even if sensible, anyone remotely attached to that criminal entity, can’t be sensible and can never be respected.
You must be missing Anjem Choudary.
I'm getting there too 😞
Fish N Chip Dude: thanks for at last ADMITTING its a GENOCIDE, You are now on the right side of history.
@astorrian6247 I have admitted no such thing. Are you on hallucinogenics?
People can be wrong, learn, and change - or what are you doing here?
Check this. “Pre-Oct 7 Gaza was a concentration camp. Post-Oct 7 Gaza has become an extermination camp”. Former US ambassador Chas Freeman.
Very true
Succinct
This is sad
I can not express how much gratitude I have for you Owen
I really thank you from the bottom of my heart for the noble job that your doing (spreading truth & awareness)
Keep going sir we're behind you
Most syrian of Golan rejected the sympathy of Israelis because they consider to be occupied by zeonist army, in fact it was a drama played by Israelis which did not work.
Imagine it being radical to want to live freely in your own land. To live like an ordinary, normal human without fear on the land that your parents, grandparents and great grand parents own and have the title deeds for!!!! Imagine being radical for wanting hospitals, scholls, universities, farms, access to the sea, to water, peace, holidays, dancing, singing, weddings, birthdays, babies born, elders sitting in the sun!!!! Just imagine veing that radical and having the audacity to want this?????
And Hamas stops this happening .
@@BENTWOONEZERO The issue is not hamas, 75 years of occupation and systematic genocide are incomparable to what hamas has done. Hamas is a result of a deep rooted cause
Thank you Owen!
Interesting again. Sad to say, I ve heard similar threads of thought for nearly a year. How can we actively collaborate and be part of something that brings change. Such inertia is so infuriating. And so devastating. Such unimaginable torture of a people. I
*_Gaza’s population is about 2 million of which 3/4 are women and children. Israeli’s population 10 million America’s investment billions upon BILLIONS and more billions._*
*_Does it cost American taxpayers millions of dollars per Palestinian life?_*
FREE PALESTINE FROM THE CLUTCHES Of The NAME Thieves, LAND Thieves, Genociders.
An Israeli perspective on this genocide despite his expertise is a little too rich for my liking. The Palestinians are like fish in a barrel and have no place to escape for God's sake.
The Palestinians are getting slaughtered and constantly forced to move.
Every aspect of this genocidal assault is designe to confine Palestinians into tighter and tighter spaces
Excellent! Prof Barton is highly knowledgeable and wise.
Professor Omer Barton-
Thank you for what Owen accurately described as your moral clarity and for sharing with us your evolution of thought.
Owen Jones- thank you for framing these difficult realities in a context of other genocides illuminating the goals and outline of Israel’s genocidal actions. You ask the questions that avail us to earnest truths.
Actions taken by Israel over the last eleven months accomplished an undeniable genocide on Palestinians in Gaza and arguably the West Bank.
Whether the genocide was deliberate from October or not; beginning in May or earlier it was clear the crimes and logic of Israel were genocidal actions/behavior.
Professor Bartov’s dismantling human shields simple by acknowledgement of the civilian population density in Gaza. A course in honesty I wish the US state department would avail themselves.
November Biden could withdrew support. the US could have ended this... there were decisions that could have been made to stop it- it wasn’t a kind of determinism. It was not an inevitable to end up here. There is still hope that it con be helped from within and without.
Owen you are honestly such a beacon of light
Israeli Soldiers Wear Images of Dead Palestinian Babies on T-shirts :
“Dead babies, mothers weeping on their children's grave, a child in the crosshairs of a sniper's rifle and blown-up mosques are just a few of the images with which IDF soldiers decided to mark their graduation from a training course or tour of duty.”
“Israel’s military condemned soldiers for wearing T-shirts of a pregnant woman in a rifle’s crosshairs with the slogan “1 Shot 2 Kills,” and another of a gun-toting child with the words, “The smaller they are, the harder it is.”
Source : Haraatz, CBSNews, DenverPost, NYDailyNews, etc
That was 2009. Now, Israel is openly targeting mothers and children in their genocide against the people in Palestine. They project what they’re guilty of on the Palestinian people
Beyond horrific
GenocideJoe 😢
You're a hero, Owen ❤
The abused at some point becomes the abuser.
Only if they are criminally insane! So tired of such rationalizations. How do you account for the abused who do not abuse??
Nope innate psychopathy
Some of the abused become protectors.
Thank you ❤❤❤
Great interview!
IGF got more Israelis on October 7th than Hamas
It’s interesting to hear these conclusions being reached and voiced now. Well, most of us observers concluded early on that they intended this forever but would, bit by bit, take advantage of any and all opportunities that present themselves to carry the plan forward, however long it might take however haphazard the plan. Parsing the methods and systems being used in this current assault is merely an exercise in reverse engineering a strategy. The intention has been there from the beginning. I’d hazard a guess that most Palestinians would agree. They’ve been living a slow genocide from the very beginning going right back to the start which has now been racked up to finish it off. There’s nothing unclear about this. Whatsoever.
I agree, anyone who believes Israel has a right to occupy and torture Palestinians under the guise of defending themselves, should ask themselves if they would not feel angry if they had their homes stolen, be imprisoned and tortured, even kill.ed for no reason. Of course it's human nature to resist or try to, I'm disgusted by Western countries who think it's terrorism to resist but democratic to be as demonic as Israel is. They won't even print the truth here despite Israelis bragging about their intentions in their media.
Thanks owen independent journalists need to be protected. Have you heard about richard medhurst?💚💚💚☘️☘️☘️
Richard made a TH-cam video about his arrest.
Yeah very eye opening💚☘️☘️
Owen, you are the goat! Thank you for what you do. ❤
There is clearly and obviously no military solution to the Israel-Palestine problem. Israel foolishly thought that an iron-fist military approach would work. They have failed completely since the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank in 1967. The West has a terrible responsibility in allowing the violence to go from horror to greater horror.
75 yrs of history, minimum, and there's still debate about jen oh side? JFC.
75 years is really not a genocide. Others facing genocide is finished within one generation. The survivors would have moved somewhere else.
You're making a huge difference ❤
Thank you OWNES and INVITED❣️❣️
We dont need a scholar to tell us what is going on.
Thanks
it's only taken him 80 years to work this out?
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Thank you for being a voice for the voiceless and standing against the injustices of genocide and apartheid. Your bravery is a beacon of hope for so many
Excellent interview, one of the most humble and knowledgeable guests you've had on - this is an interview people shouldn't miss.
Never again, to anyone, anywhere. Ever.
A very informative conversation. Thanks again for getting the right people on your channel to speak about the topic.
Where have you been in the last 10 months?
@@yoo_zen Here, listening to Owen Jones and a lot of other independent media.
I think you interpreted my comment the wrong way. Something can still be informative even when you know already what's going on. I despise Israel since I got first into the depth of the conflict during their 2014 war on Gaza.
How could he not have known before? He seemed to be making excuses for Israel last time and he’s still dragging his feet.
An irredeemable ‘society’
He has probably always known but he is an israeli so he lie.
Can Palestinian anywhere file Wrongful Death lawsuit against arms suppliers?
Please sometime give us a comparison between this genocide and the horrific ways US treated Iraq during and between the two Bush invasions. I feel that on a way US taught Israel how to do it and expect immunity.
Please talk about Richard medhurst
Alistair Crooke (un Judge Napilitano) said that Neranyahu wants to carry out a Nakba (forced expulsion) and that the USA is aware of this!¡¡¡ IT is enraging!!!!!
I don't think Israel wants to stop at Palestinians either, that monster Ben givir wants to invade Lebanon. Netanyahu showed a map of greater Israel and he wants most of the middle east.
Stop the genocide
Ludicrous to espouse anything other than the fact that Netanyahu reflects the views of almost all the population of Israel.
Thank you, Owen. Excellent interview with an excellent guest expert.
One thing that could have been mentioned: This has some aspects of a Palestinian war of independence (at least in Gaza). And wars of independence against a much stronger occupying enemy often involve horrific casualties, especially among civilians.
Examples would include Algeria, Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc. All of these had millions of dead before independence was finally achieved.
Expropriation always the plan and never a secret. Herzl wrote about it in 1895. 😢
US has unexceptionally defended the Zionst regime against punitive international measures, served as its biggest arms purveyor, and provided it with close intelligence cooperation toward both protecting it and facilitating its desired atrocities.
Thank you for this amazing (depressing and hopeful 🙏) interview.
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They have dehumanised the Palestinians
They didn't have to. human palestinians is an oxymoron
@@ron0311 you must be a sociopath. I pity you. You are not a civilised human being
Owen, thanks for keeping this top of mind. This is important under the current circumstances
The similarities between the Gaza genocide and previous genocides is like watching a carbon copy.
Regarding whether or not Palestinian resistance can win this, it really depends on how you define winning. Israel failing in its objectives, failing as a state, will lead to positive change for Palestine and that is a win.
Geneva chapter 49:
Not one Israeli is allowed to be in the occupied territories
I salute your moral integrity and courage to host these interviews.... Are you worried you'll be also attacked by the establishment similar to the outrageous recent arrest of Richard Medhurst ?
It was not a hezbollah missile it was a misfire from the iron dome and it has happened in madjal shams many times, and the the Druze community was angry at Israel. I’m sorry he is spreading misinformation on that point
Hige respect to those who refuse to be silent