@@garryscanlan235 Me too. I get that sponsorship is necessary to keep the wolf from the door, but it must be a fine line between honest reviews and 'not critical' .
Thanks again Mark for taking the time and effort to upload this tutorial. I’m still using a 2070 but getting reasonable frames using your suggested settings. 🥳👍
Thanks for your guide ! I run MFS2020 on a laptop (Asus Rog Strix G18 with I9 13gen 32 Go RAM and RTX 4090 laptop (8 Go VRAM ddr6) and I noticed that DLSS with DLAA and frame generation on is also a good compromise to get a clear image without losing to much FPS
I've tried the last AFMF 2.0 beta AMD drivers on this sim and this is woodoo sorcery. It doubles my FPS without much artefact troubles. My 7900xtx run faster than my 4090 !!
@@Patrick_AV Yes it works with all APU now (Vulkan) and you don't have to use only full screen, it uses VRR and there are less artefacts (in Xplane 12 and MSFS).
Thanks for the video Mark. You gave me a few ideas on what to try in VR to make thing even better with my Reverb G2 (Crystal Light not here yet), I'm fairly new to MSFS, can't say I have much interest in learning all the intricacies of flying, if I fly a small plane myself, it's in "easy" mode with a Logitech Extreme 3D pro (yep, it's older than dirt LOL). What I do really much enjoy is using the A320 Neo (v1) and letting the AI autopilot fly the plane while I just look around. Too bad not all planes allow the AI autopilot to fly the plane, the new V2 of the Neo doesn't work, neither does the 747 or the A310. Some plane work, some don't. I am getting much enjoyment from MSFS this way, I'm actually a sim racer but this MSFS is a lot of fun in VR. LOL
Nice video Mark; thanks for posting it. You started off with 35 FPS and ended up around 50. I’d be interested to know what would the FPS would had been with the RTX 4090 without doing an entire video on it. Thanks again.
In my Crystal I find the DLAA option looks better than TAA. Same sharpness pretty much but with much reduced jaggies looking across the ground while on the ground, fences, things like that.
8:50, under 'Change Resolution' - you could click the 'Use NVIDIA colour settings' and change the 'output dynamic range range' from 'Limited' to 'Full' to get 0-255 colours.
So I see you are using DX12 with TAA I thought TAA works better with DX11 what do you use the most DX11 or 12? Of course, I only fly with the Pimax Crystal VR headset. So I should probably use dx 12
@@SimHangerFS Ya, since the latest msfs update and nvidia 552.44 together with dlss 3.7.20 dlss/balanced, with 1.20x ODT SS (to produce a TAA-like cockpit clarity), and forced 40fps, DX12 is now working very well with my QPro/rtx4090 using Link at 650mbps. I still find it best to disable win11 HAGS though. Not so much with msfs, but with other PCVR apps it still can be a bit unstable. Thanks for your useful tips mate and cheers.
Great video Mark, do you have a video like this for those of us running a 4090 with a 1390ks or 1490? Will be setting up a Crystal Light soon and would love to know your settings in VR with a beefy system. I use an LG TV 120Hz, with sync and am just trying to get setup properly. Also what additional programs do you use with VR outside of Primax?
Thanks Mark, I am aware not everyone appreciates your videos unless it is specific about their system! That said I really do like ALL of your videos as you explain things slow and easy which is very very nice! Your work and advice is superb!
Very useful video. For the Nameplates, in Options, Control Options, there is a TOGGLE NAMEPLATES command. You can set it to your keyboard, I have it set to CTRL / . Very useful and easy to toggle. Another thing: just recently, Intel admitted that their high end CPUs 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs i9 have a problem and they can get damaged over time; some new BIOS update may come soon. You have an 19 14900K; are you aware about this?
Mark, thanks for such an informative video. I am currently exploring the idea of migrating from my XBOX series X to a PC solution as I want to run a few 3rd party programs that you can’t run on XBOX at the same time. I was thinking of going for a wired2fire Valkyrie machine, but I have also seen a few vendors offering the spec (RTX4070 Ti Super) that you have demoed here. I’m starting to wonder if I need to go all out with the Valkyrie as it represents a significant investment when I possibly don’t need to as (like you) I’m predominantly a GA (low & slow) flyer as I like to enjoy the scenery along my route. I guess it’s a case of how deep your pockets are at the end of the day. Much food for thought here. I have bookmarked the video for future settings. Thanks once again.
Making the switch from XBOX X to PC for me was a massive upgrade in terms of immersion, if you're willing to invest in peripherals, scenery and aircraft of course. Freeware scenery is fun if you're on a budget and AI ATC software can add a lot of immersion too. Have fun which ever way you go!
Hi Mark, I just look at your video and tilted when I discovered your very high end setup and the resulting rather low FPS below 60 that you experience despite the fact that your are probably burning quite a large amount of Watts for that ! At the end you said that the hardware is not yet capable of properly running the MSFS, I would, If I may, say the contrary : The MSFS software is not properly designed to take benefit of such high end setup. - You know for instance the famous MSFS bottleneck of the single core currently able to send commands to the GPU while the other cores are far from being fully used. Did you turn on the rebar option on your machine ? I am sure you use the Frame Gen option, don't you ? Cheers,
@@d.p.5874 hi, thanks for feedback. I was not using framegen in this test. Rebar is on. Fair comment on the software, however MSFS2024 promises expanded multi-threading so will be interesting to compare. Note for flightsim you don’t need 60fps for a smooth performance, 30-35 fps is a common target.
@@SimHangerFS Yes agree you get smooth movement at 35 FPS and burn much less Watts, but in my opinion it appears a bit blurry for lateral movement particularly when speed increases. Cheers and fly safe.
One path is to make sure that the core used for GPU communication is not also used by other apps, in particular W11. For instance make sure MSFS does not use the 1st core which is systematically used by W11. This can be done through Affinity by hand or by a .bat or better using Process Lasso. Hope this helps...
These settings are all with ref to monitor. Do these tweeks apply the same in the VR settings for us that dont use 2D? I have had a break flying DCS for a couple of months and MSFS is now a stuttering mess in Q3.
Which VR headset you got? Ive tweaked the quest 3 for over a year. I almost got in 99% stutter free, but a new Q3 update screwed it all up again. You must use "auto-fps" for a start. That is sooooo essential.
If I go under 60FPS the Framerate meter blinks/goes red but I notice you are at 30-40 FPS and still in the green with a deep yellow graph. I wonder why? It does look smooth on the youtubes. Also I see your Alloc stuff in the framerate meter is blinking red. Do you have any idea what that means? In TAA you can run a lower res in the game and then simply upscale it using the Render Scale Option. 150 seems to be 1:1. I use 2640x1440 then 150 render scale to upscale back to 4k. I get the same quality but the GPU is being used more than the CPU. With a 4090 we have the over-head. This would even out your Main Thread and GPU Thread a lot.
TBMPilot736, do you think that Lossless Scaling thing would help me with my old gaming pc? I3, AMD 570, 24 ram, 1 tera hd....oh well...its still working ok.
@@MaloIsTheGoat try log out and back in to your Xbox account. Otherwise you’ll need to contact support. Make sure you’re connected to the internet obviously.
My fps is at 90 fps I don't know what is good for my 3060ti card but my chip is an AMD 5800x 3d and 32 meg ram with dark hero 8 main board. any suggestions on a good video card ?
will upgrading my ram increase my fps i got a Ryzen 5600H and a gtx 1650 mobile with 8Gb ram i get 25-30 fps but in big airports its 10fps even if my graphics are lowest
I’ve been using msfs since the nineties and it has been a constant fiddling with the setups 😂. A new system or component was always a big jump forward.
Thanks again Mark for taking the time and effort to upload this tutorial. I’m still using a 2070 but getting reasonable frames using your suggested settings. 🥳👍
Excellent video, Mark. A real change from the sponsored videos you've been doing lately.Almost like old times.
Well said q I was thinking Mark had sold out.
@@garryscanlan235 Me too. I get that sponsorship is necessary to keep the wolf from the door, but it must be a fine line between honest reviews and 'not critical' .
You can never have too many videos like this. Thank you.
Thanks again Mark for taking the time and effort to upload this tutorial. I’m still using a 2070 but getting reasonable frames using your suggested settings. 🥳👍
Great video Mark! Thanks for all of the awesome info, your suggestions improved my FPS from 33 to 56! Thank you very much 👍👍
About time we needed an updated guide from Mark!
Thanks Mark! Very helpful in making my setup run a bit smoother.
Thanks for your guide ! I run MFS2020 on a laptop (Asus Rog Strix G18 with I9 13gen 32 Go RAM and RTX 4090 laptop (8 Go VRAM ddr6) and I noticed that DLSS with DLAA and frame generation on is also a good compromise to get a clear image without losing to much FPS
Great video Mark. Very helpful. Can I ask for some new advise on VR settings as well? Thank you!
Very detailed analysis. This is very helpful. Thanks
Looking forward to an up to date VR settings guide.
Thank you for this excellent and very useful video!
Thanks Mark, very helpful video 😊
Excellent again Mark!
Thanks 😊
excellent video , thank you so much i'll play around with my settings
I've tried the last AFMF 2.0 beta AMD drivers on this sim and this is woodoo sorcery. It doubles my FPS without much artefact troubles. My 7900xtx run faster than my 4090 !!
Do you experience a big change against the first fluid motion frame?
@@Patrick_AV Yes it works with all APU now (Vulkan) and you don't have to use only full screen, it uses VRR and there are less artefacts (in Xplane 12 and MSFS).
msfs2024 is coming with RT so better keep that 4090!
@@caribbaviator7058 for sure 🤣
Vsync can be useful with non variable refresh rate monitors where the game then syncs its frames to the monitor refresh and reduces screen tearing.
Thank you Sir. Very helpful.
Thanks for the video Mark.
You gave me a few ideas on what to try in VR to make thing even better with my Reverb G2 (Crystal Light not here yet), I'm fairly new to MSFS, can't say I have much interest in learning all the intricacies of flying, if I fly a small plane myself, it's in "easy" mode with a Logitech Extreme 3D pro (yep, it's older than dirt LOL). What I do really much enjoy is using the A320 Neo (v1) and letting the AI autopilot fly the plane while I just look around. Too bad not all planes allow the AI autopilot to fly the plane, the new V2 of the Neo doesn't work, neither does the 747 or the A310. Some plane work, some don't.
I am getting much enjoyment from MSFS this way, I'm actually a sim racer but this MSFS is a lot of fun in VR. LOL
Nice video Mark; thanks for posting it. You started off with 35 FPS and ended up around 50. I’d be interested to know what would the FPS would had been with the RTX 4090 without doing an entire video on it. Thanks again.
Splendid advice
Great video. I sure hope FS2024 is more optimized. I have the 4070Ti Super also and I'm still being choked by the CPU...
Great video. Any VR setting recommendations?
Coming soon 👍
We are still looking at setting in MSFS2020 4 years in well done for doing this but its a well beaten rug by now
There a new ‘’starters’’ joining all the time. Now 15million unique users. The more we can encourage and grow our hobby the better.
Only thing I would suggest it using DLAA over TAA. All the positives from TAA but without the blur
In my Crystal I find the DLAA option looks better than TAA. Same sharpness pretty much but with much reduced jaggies looking across the ground while on the ground, fences, things like that.
8:50, under 'Change Resolution' - you could click the 'Use NVIDIA colour settings' and change the 'output dynamic range range' from 'Limited' to 'Full' to get 0-255 colours.
expand why please..thanks
Thank you very much for the video sir 👍
So I see you are using DX12 with TAA I thought TAA works better with DX11 what do you use the most DX11 or 12? Of course, I only fly with the Pimax Crystal VR headset. So I should probably use dx 12
I use DX12 most. DX11 = more FPS. DX12 = Less micro-stutters 😊
@@SimHangerFS Ya, since the latest msfs update and nvidia 552.44 together with dlss 3.7.20 dlss/balanced, with 1.20x ODT SS (to produce a TAA-like cockpit clarity), and forced 40fps, DX12 is now working very well with my QPro/rtx4090 using Link at 650mbps. I still find it best to disable win11 HAGS though. Not so much with msfs, but with other PCVR apps it still can be a bit unstable. Thanks for your useful tips mate and cheers.
Great video Mark, do you have a video like this for those of us running a 4090 with a 1390ks or 1490? Will be setting up a Crystal Light soon and would love to know your settings in VR with a beefy system. I use an LG TV 120Hz, with sync and am just trying to get setup properly. Also what additional programs do you use with VR outside of Primax?
@@doug6072 Series 40/VR coming up in a few weeks.
Thanks Mark, I am aware not everyone appreciates your videos unless it is specific about their system! That said I really do like ALL of your videos as you explain things slow and easy which is very very nice! Your work and advice is superb!
Very useful video. For the Nameplates, in Options, Control Options, there is a TOGGLE NAMEPLATES command. You can set it to your keyboard, I have it set to CTRL / . Very useful and easy to toggle.
Another thing: just recently, Intel admitted that their high end CPUs 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs i9 have a problem and they can get damaged over time; some new BIOS update may come soon. You have an 19 14900K; are you aware about this?
@@raymondgoubet thanks, yes I have been following the story as it unfolds. Thanks 👍
Mark, thanks for such an informative video. I am currently exploring the idea of migrating from my XBOX series X to a PC solution as I want to run a few 3rd party programs that you can’t run on XBOX at the same time. I was thinking of going for a wired2fire Valkyrie machine, but I have also seen a few vendors offering the spec (RTX4070 Ti Super) that you have demoed here. I’m starting to wonder if I need to go all out with the Valkyrie as it represents a significant investment when I possibly don’t need to as (like you) I’m predominantly a GA (low & slow) flyer as I like to enjoy the scenery along my route. I guess it’s a case of how deep your pockets are at the end of the day. Much food for thought here. I have bookmarked the video for future settings. Thanks once again.
Making the switch from XBOX X to PC for me was a massive upgrade in terms of immersion, if you're willing to invest in peripherals, scenery and aircraft of course.
Freeware scenery is fun if you're on a budget and AI ATC software can add a lot of immersion too.
Have fun which ever way you go!
great video Mark, can you tell me why your FPS counter is green at 30 and above while mine has to be above 60 FPS to make it green
@@johnboy8846 you can change the fps at which point it changes colour via vsync. Enable…set to what you want. Apply changes. Disable. 👍
@@SimHangerFS cheers
Thank you.
With my 4090 all settings are set to YES!
Not in VR there not ;-|)
And I get 10 fps in aerosoft EDDF in Fenix A320
Hi Mark, I just look at your video and tilted when I discovered your very high end setup and the resulting rather low FPS below 60 that you experience despite the fact that your are probably burning quite a large amount of Watts for that !
At the end you said that the hardware is not yet capable of properly running the MSFS, I would, If I may, say the contrary : The MSFS software is not properly designed to take benefit of such high end setup.
- You know for instance the famous MSFS bottleneck of the single core currently able to send commands to the GPU while the other cores are far from being fully used.
Did you turn on the rebar option on your machine ?
I am sure you use the Frame Gen option, don't you ?
Cheers,
@@d.p.5874 hi, thanks for feedback. I was not using framegen in this test. Rebar is on. Fair comment on the software, however MSFS2024 promises expanded multi-threading so will be interesting to compare. Note for flightsim you don’t need 60fps for a smooth performance, 30-35 fps is a common target.
@@SimHangerFS Yes agree you get smooth movement at 35 FPS and burn much less Watts, but in my opinion it appears a bit blurry for lateral movement particularly when speed increases. Cheers and fly safe.
One path is to make sure that the core used for GPU communication is not also used by other apps, in particular W11. For instance make sure MSFS does not use the 1st core which is systematically used by W11. This can be done through Affinity by hand or by a .bat or better using Process Lasso. Hope this helps...
These settings are all with ref to monitor. Do these tweeks apply the same in the VR settings for us that dont use 2D? I have had a break flying DCS for a couple of months and MSFS is now a stuttering mess in Q3.
Yes, most apply directly to VR
need one for RTX4090 please, I know that you have it done already. if possible a new video please
I wish you had gone with the 7800X3D instead of the 14900K, I would like to see what you would have done with that.
Yes, I do live with some regret at times 😮
I play in VR and I get a lot of stuttering during flight, what is the simplest reason for this and simplest solution?
@@oldhaws8009 AI traffic off and turn down your resolution & settings.
Which VR headset you got? Ive tweaked the quest 3 for over a year. I almost got in 99% stutter free, but a new Q3 update screwed it all up again. You must use "auto-fps" for a start. That is sooooo essential.
Can you do a Xbox series X setup guide next?
If I go under 60FPS the Framerate meter blinks/goes red but I notice you are at 30-40 FPS and still in the green with a deep yellow graph. I wonder why? It does look smooth on the youtubes. Also I see your Alloc stuff in the framerate meter is blinking red. Do you have any idea what that means? In TAA you can run a lower res in the game and then simply upscale it using the Render Scale Option. 150 seems to be 1:1. I use 2640x1440 then 150 render scale to upscale back to 4k. I get the same quality but the GPU is being used more than the CPU. With a 4090 we have the over-head. This would even out your Main Thread and GPU Thread a lot.
You can ‘’change’’ the fps mark when it changes via the vsync settings.
Or: install Lossless Scaling and put ALL of your sliders to the max. Suuuuuupersmooth!! I‘m amazed how well it works!
You could still get low core fps/poor performance. Autofps mod addresses this quite well.
@@stoobydootoo4098 not in my case
Not needed with a 40 series GPU, just use DLSS 3 & Frame Generation. Better visuals. It's a great app for older cards.
TBMPilot736, do you think that Lossless Scaling thing would help me with my old gaming pc? I3, AMD 570, 24 ram, 1 tera hd....oh well...its still working ok.
@@stevejones924 probably, try it out, costs almost nothing
I noted that although the FPS had improved at the end the FPS monitor was indicating red... why is that please?
@@TWOKDOK1 I set the ‘’green’’ at 60 fps. Set via vsync…on…save….off.
Hey do you know how to fix bugs on Xbox because when I buy planes it says “oops please try again later”
@@MaloIsTheGoat try log out and back in to your Xbox account. Otherwise you’ll need to contact support. Make sure you’re connected to the internet obviously.
My fps is at 90 fps I don't know what is good for my 3060ti card but my chip is an AMD 5800x 3d and 32 meg ram with dark hero 8 main board. any suggestions on a good video card ?
You’re getting good performance due to the excellent cpu you’ve got.
Thank you Mark I trust you.
Just waiting to finish the mandatory 129.34gb update, its going very slow 😢
Use a vpn to help the download speed
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will upgrading my ram increase my fps i got a Ryzen 5600H and a gtx 1650 mobile with 8Gb ram i get 25-30 fps but in big airports its 10fps even if my graphics are lowest
The bottle neck for you is your GPU.
Lossless scaling is the answer!
@@SimHangerFS well 🤡 at least if i can get some stable fps
@@TBMPilot736 tried it distorts my plane models
Why you cover only cover the high end cards? Not EVERYBODY have 4080s!
My system is a joke, I3, AMD 570, 24 ram, 1 tera hd....oh well...its still working ok.
5 more months and hopefully with a RTX5090 and Msfs2024 and we will not have to fiddle with the setups and add on's ... wishful thinking?😂
I just hope that msfs2024 will be more multithreaded and optimized that we’ll have a better experience with same hardware.
What if it is wishful thinking? I like your attitude.
Do you know about freeware Autofps. You can tweak fps/TLOD/OLOD in flight, rather than escaping to the menu.
You need at least a Core i13 for that.
I’ve been using msfs since the nineties and it has been a constant fiddling with the setups 😂. A new system or component was always a big jump forward.
its absolut ugly without vsync. Extreme tearing.
Fairly pointless video. You should have tested on a minimum spec PC.
Can't help bad luck, mate. Impossible to satisfy everyone here....and we ALL have different setups.
Thanks again Mark for taking the time and effort to upload this tutorial. I’m still using a 2070 but getting reasonable frames using your suggested settings. 🥳👍