An Exploration of the Avata Star Sue-niverse
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- Shubaddi doo di doo di sha-la-la la! This video is all about demystifying the enigmatic figure, Avata Star Sue, for audiences outside South Korea. This highly recognizable flash character's games were hosted on many girls' gaming websites, embedding herself in the minds of 2000's kids across the globe, despite the inaccessibility of the language to many. In this video I thoroughly investigate the Avata Star Sue franchise; all the games, all the webisodes, and everything else I can get my hands on. Full disclosure: s*** gets weird.
!!! The webisodes section contains the following content warnings: Restrictive eating (33:50), racial caricatures (41:10), inappropriate/leering depiction of fictional minors (I'm not time stamping that).
Time stamps:
Intro - 0:00
How do I know Sue? 1:53
What does English-language internet have to tell me about Sue? 3:15
What does Korean-language internet have to tell me about Sue? 4:49
Every Sue game on Flashpoint - 7:37 (detailed time stamps in pinned comment)
Is Starsue.net related to Avata Star Sue? 19:10
Avata Star Sue: The Web Series - 20:25
Sue Merch - 49:34
The spin-off, Little Patissier Sue - 51:09
Conclusion: Who was Sue? 52:57
Credits 56:09
Avata Star Sue webisodes (If you leave a comment, please be mindful that these are works of childrens' media and don't be weird.): / sueavatastar
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SUE FLASH GAME TIME STAMPS!
Please refer to this guide on how to install Flashpoint: th-cam.com/video/rTPlSvuxvbM/w-d-xo.html Windows only.
Color code - Green 💚 needs no translation to play. Yellow 🟡 needs some translation assistance. Red ❌ was too advanced for me to translate and will not be a helpful game guide.
Dress up Bin 💚: 8:17
Dress up Sue 💚: 8:26
Sue's Chocolate Candy Maker ❌: 8:33 guide: th-cam.com/video/8fgYVZ6XALY/w-d-xo.html
Sue's Candy Dating 🟡: 8:48
Sue Farming ❌: 9:00 guide: th-cam.com/video/Mc3GZi3DnqM/w-d-xo.html
Sue's Make Up Makeover 🟡: 9:19
Sue Hair Makeover 2 💚: 10:05
Sue Candy Eater 💚: 10:15
Sue's Dating Machine 🟡: 10:30
Sue's Witch Magic Makeover 💚: 10:43
Sue Clothing Maker 💚: 11:24
Sue Drumming Game 💚: 11:38
Sue Cheerleader 💚: 11:56
Sue Cake House 🟡: 12:05
Sue's Diet 🟡: 12:24
Sue Knitting 💚: 12:43
Sue's Ramen Shop ❌: 12:54 guide: th-cam.com/video/SpvFUij2TYs/w-d-xo.html
Sue Clip Maker 💚: 13:05
Sue Hair Dresser 💚: 13:24
Sue Hairstyle Makeover 💚: 13:32
Sue's Bakery 💚: 13:48
Sue's Garden 🟡: 13:55
Sue Delivery Meals 🟡: 14:07
Sue's Dog Beauty Salon💚: 14:42
Sue's Frozen Chocolate ❌: 15:00 guide: th-cam.com/video/3HTo5I2-8Lc/w-d-xo.html
Sue's Beauty Room 💚: 15:11
Sue the Fashion Designer 💚: 15:30
Sue Jewelry Designer 💚: 15:51
Sue's Tomato Factory 🟡: 16:08
Sue Jigsaw Puzzle 💚: 16:24
Sue Clothing Patterns 💚: 16:37
Sue's Sushi Restaurant 🟡: 16:47
Sue's Beautymaker 💚: 17:03
Sue's Sneaky Snack 🟡: 17:26
Sue Doll Maker 💚: 17:40
Sue Musical 💚: 17:51
Sue's Beauty Machine 💚: 18:06
Sue's Fried Wontons 🟡: 18:29
I also remember a witch game that made absolutely no sense, as well as a beauty pageant with a casino slot game mechanic
You should do a video on e-pets it was a virtual world similar to webkinz
When I was little, I was able to understand the farming game. It took a few tries with my 0 Korean language knowledge though. First, you cook the potato fully, start with one type of potato to put in the machine. On the bottom you press the color of the potato you're stuffing into the machine to have the matching french fry container. You put in the number of potatoes the machine asks for, then pull the lever in the top right corner and fries are deposited into the container. This took a lot of trial and error for child me.
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just use basilisk lmao
I mean... At least Bin was an ok enough boyfriend? Didn't ignore boundaries, didn't order her around, didn't play hot and cold, genuinely cared and helped... Way better than a lot of animated boys from 2000/early 2010 😂
He did also help her escape being kidnapped so there’s that
the bar is that low lol
@Vera-dear♡ Same! He's so cute and sweet
@@crazypbl8801 still, not a lot of men these days do that
@@akira7739 the fact that you're referring to actual men in comparison to an animated kid is so hilarious to me, can't even disagree either
I’m not super great with Korean but I’m learning it, and I just wanted to mention that as far as I can tell, “sexy” (direct loanword) is a pretty common style description in Korea and its implications aren’t exactly the same as in America. It means more like a “cool, sleek, and mature” style than specifically sexual, even though it can also refer to more standard sexy styles as well.
I'm Korean and I second this, but I also must add that this had been the case in 90's~00's and Koreans have been learning more about the sexual, inappropriate nature of the word. Although the word still has more casual usage than in English, it's slowly been removed from any children-oriented or family-friendly content :)
She was trully a wordwide icon. I'm from Brazil and I remember me as child playing her games for hours. I remember all of them even if I didn't understand a thing. I'm pretty sure she was my first contact with korean language! I adored her, so cute, pinky and she was like Barbie, had all types of job lol
Nossa eu amava os jogos dela também
Eu tbm vei mds, a elite dos jogos
eu odiava ela e sempre jogava os jogos e deixava ela feia de propósito
sim cara , o jogo de sopa de sue pra fzr ela era meu favorito , eu nem sabia q realmente tinha um objetivo kkkk
nunca vi ela na vida, eu acho, pelo menos
jogava aqueles da girlsgogames das 3 meninas
Oh my god im korean and these were such a big part of my childhood, it's so great seeing western audiences enjoyed them as well!!
Here's some extra context from a native speaker just for funsies:
4:20 Actually the pre-teen girl that turns into a magical girl with some type of wand or device(or 마법소녀) was an still is a very popular trope, especially in kid's anime back in the day. Sue could've very much been inspired by Creamy Mami, but my bet is that she was just part of the magical girl trope lol (the ages of these kids in other magical girl franchises were also mostly around 10 and 11 like Sue, it's weird looking back on it but for some reason it wasn't out of the ordinary back then)
8:33 12:54 These are pretty notorious even amongst sue games for being hard LMAO your timing skills have to be pretty much impeccable for you to beat them🤒🤒 I actually recommend watching someone else play instead as that will give you more enjoyment and less pain
10:44 oh god these ones🤦♀️ The misogyny, fatphobia and blackface etc etc with a couple of these games and webisodes... oh man😒 These were made back in the early days of the internet but obviously that's no excuse, I recommend skipping them entirely ngl
15:04 The warning that pops up here says you have to put in two types of chocolate. The game is based off a popular sweet called 얼초 that has a layer of strawberry and a layer of milk chocolate, which is probably why that shows up. I used to make so many of these things when i was young, stores still sell 얼초 actually but with banana flavor added now!
My god sorry for rambling for this long but I loved this video so much, it brought back so many memories💗
Thanks for the information! I didn’t grow up with these games, but it’s interesting to hear more about it
I cannot express how awesome it is to know a Korean person’s experience with the same character! I played Knock off Sue games without realizing it, so it is extremely satisfying hearing both the relatable common western experience as well as the native speaking Korean experience. It adds SO much to this piece of internet history and I genuinely appreciate it, especially considering how many flash games are being completely lost to time.
There was also another character for IBravo called Ong's sisters and an animation series called 개구쟁이 옹스 a reboot called 과자나라 옹스 and some games and a snack called 옹스짱 but I can't really find more information about it. It featured a girl (who I thought was boy) named Ong and a pink cat called Ong Soo but later on Ong's design was charged in the reboot
i think li specifically mentioned creamy mami because theres an aged up aspect to both! im sure there are more examples out there though, maybe even more fitting comparisons
oh!!! i love those chocolates, they used to sell them at my local convenience store but i forgot the name. thank you for mentioning it so i can have them again!!!!
You just unlocked so much nostalgia for me with StarSue! Fun fact: the website actually used to feature Sue a lot more prominently (more so than what Internet archives tell you), so much so that you could think it was her official main website. Star Sue used to be filled with so many flash games (most of them the knockoffs you mentioned), and so did its (now defunct) kiddie counterpart MiniWinx (that was basically StarSue, but more focused on Winx Club Dress Up Flash games amongst others including Sue herself). Back in 2010, the StarSue logo even featured Sue herself.
I still remember her! 😊 although I find it sad you can get access to her games anymore because of the end of using adobe flash😢 . But avatar star sue had been a long time fave! 😊
I remember playing the Monster High games on the site, but yes, Sue was also a big part of their whole thing.
@@Justinya0 It would be cool if Avatar Star Sue would make a come back, someday. But It’s nice to have a conversation with long time fans who still remember avatar star sue. ☺️☺️,
If flash would make a come back that is…😅
@@johannymilord3371 you can still play them. she even said it
@@Justinya0 omg i remember playing those and the mlp dress up games too 😭
I loved the Avatar Star Sue Witch game as a kid! In all honesty, I thought that ‘chubby Sue’ was super cute, even as a skinny kid. I would always try to get her.
you’re literally right, i just wish she wasn’t so bummed out!
@@lispeaks honestly!
I literally remember what you had to pick in this game to get Sue! Wish I could still play this game...
I also didn´t thought the black sue or the chubby were fails
@@cisshayri it were "fails" in terms of not being the exact copy of Sue which was the objective of the game I think... Even more beautiful version of Sue would be considered fail in the game, as not making the character.
I do think it’s kind of sweet that the dieting episode had a message about the negative impacts that unhealthy dieting/dieting when you don’t need to has on people and how you don’t need to diet to be happy; a message I wish was shared more to little girls. I was unfortunately a victim of peer pressure and a lot of the “young girls have to be skinny or else they’re ugly or a comedic punching bag” messaging in TV shows, and it resulted in me developing an ED during my middle school and early high school years. So this is kind of heartwarming for me.
This is nice, but then there's that whole dieting minigame that sends the exact opposite message. I wish they stayed consistent on their messaging bc this comes off as weird.
About the game Sue Hair Dresser, i've cracked the code on how to finally make her happy. Basically on the first level, you might have noticed that the game shows you a pic of what Sue wants, for a couple of seconds. You might get the haircut right, but the problem is the hair color. She never asks for one dye, she always wants a mix of two different hair dyes to be happy. And the hairdye mix she wants barely ever looks like the pic at the beggining of the game. For example, the first pic shows that she wants black hair (which is impossible to achieve), when in reality she wants a mix of the brown and blue hair dye. You can't quite get what the game showed you, so you better settle for the next best thing. Though i doubt it, hope that helps!
the pervy stuff in the webisodes seems weird (and it is) until you remember that a fair amount of kids shows back then had those moments. totally spies, victorious and onegai my melody comes to mind.
Yeah…Still weird, but not something Sue is solely responsible for.
Yeah, sexualizing underage characters in media was sadly common when I was young.
The skirt flipping that the kid brother does is apparently a trope in East Asia among elementary schoolers. I've seen it referenced as a problem in a few different things ("Only Yesterday" and "12 sai: Chicchana Mune no Tokimeki" are ones I can think of off the top of my head).
I’m also assuming it’s because of values dissonance. Korea likely had different standards than the US when it comes to kids shows.
For the victorious one ,blame good ol' Schneider 💀💀💀
Man no wonder leah is fucking angry/pissed off all the time
1. Her “friend” is always overshadowing her due to what seems to be otherworldly forces
2. She’s being forced to literally date a boy she doesn’t care about
3. Her parents don’t love her, people know that but still constantly shit on her furthering her self doubt
Oh and also
4. Every time she gets into a new hobby/just do something she’s proud of the group will ALWAYS follow/copy what she’s doing but better and when she’s on her last rope and tries to stop them that miraculous event will happen which will always put her in harms way
She’s just like me fr.
@@Shortcakeeeeeee she’s just like me fr
She just like me fr
I guess she is the Meg of the group Meg
She’s just like me fr.
i cannot even begin to express how much of an icon you are. MUCH APPRECIATION FROM A 17YO SAUDI ARABIAN TEEN TRYING TO RELIVE HER CHILDHOOD
So how did you feel about that arab prince and Sue being a belly dancer in one of those episodes? 😅
@@potatooctopus2382 As an Arab myself its really cringe, and the fact that the belly dancer/arab prince troupe is such a thing in media is a real bummer cause its just regressive stereotypes :-: I want some actual good rep for once
@@fm9473fellow arab! I agree
Hello fellow Arab Flashpoint Game girlie
حرفياً عالألعاب كانوا حياتي كلها
19:10
the knockoff "sue" you showed was actually called judy and i would love to see someone explore them next. here in the west they were often considered Sue's games, but with the small amount of Korean i can read, her name is actually judy, and i honestly feel like i enjoyed her games more than the official ibravo sue games. they were produced by a korean site called KiniWini.
in modern day my laptop considers kiniwini a virus- the same judy character has been part of a widespread malware campaign through downloadable apps developed by kiniwini on google play, but i never had issues with the old flash games.
judy aside, id love to see sue return through more animations or even webcomics.
i remember her!!! though her name wasn't judy, to me it was sami lol. i remember i came across some of her games with the korean text wiped off and the name sami plastered on it
Judy lived long enough to become the villain, smh.
Omg I remenber those !! I actually played the ones on Google play. I never had a problem with them, atleast not from what I remenber. Maybe I was lucky or maybe it did infect it but it was already so broken that I never noticed.
But I know I 100% played them, im happy to have find out they actually exist.
Do you know any way to find info on these games ? Because I didnt yield much results from my Google searches.
I thought her name was jenny and that the sandwich maker game was a sue game, i never knew about the malware thing
Our local Asian market sells the Sue Chocolate Making Kit. I frequently buy it because it includes dress up stickers which allow me to relive my childhood for short periods of time.
We have it in like the average supermarket in dubai tho i didn't know about the flash games existence😭
Edit: or actually now that i think of it, i might have came across the games when i was very young.. not sure if i trust my memory tho💀 ik i did buy the chocolates frequently when i was young
yep im gonna go convince my family to take me to the asian market today to go search for the sue choco kit thank you
I've seen the chocolate kits at a couple Asian markets near me! I've been meaning to pick up a box, but I'm hesitant because I've heard the chocolate isn't that great. I don't really want to spend money on a snack that I probably won't like, but maybe one day...
But let me tell you, the emotional whiplash I experienced when I first saw them was immense.
i live in the uae & can confirm!! but recently the back of the all boxes of the kits are upside-down for some reason.
@@noorlitaThat memory thing you said is funny because I came into the video thinking I didn't know Sue but it turns out I played that witch potion game religiously without even remembering before I saw it again.
I don’t know if anyone in the comments mentioned it yet, but Sue had branded candy! I live in a part of Russia that’s really close to Korea and we actually got quite a few Korean candies here, Sue brand one included. The ones I’m most familiar with are DIY chocolate mushroom kits, where you pour chocolate into molds (like in the flash game!), stick a cookie stem inside and put them in the freezer to set. There’s a Sue version and a Bean version, each including a paper doll/sticker sheet to dress up the character. I used to really like those as a kid, they were neat and as an avid GGG fan I loved to have a piece of Sue merch. They are actually still available at stores.
was looking for this comment! im not comfortable specifiying which part of asia im from, but the choco kits are still sold here too
That is honestly so cool
yess i was just about to comment this! the mushroom DIY chocolate candy kit had instructions on how to make it and it says to add the chocolate first then the strawberry cream, and finally top it off with the biscuits and chill in the freezer!! you needed to replicate the box art of this chocolate so it may be safe to assume that the flash game required these instructions!! the candy DIY kit also included a sticker sheet of Sue with clothing options for you to choose! the stickers can swappable! i still see them being sold to this day and it's so much fun!! i hope my comment was useful ♡
DIY CHOCOLATE MUSHROOM???? oh my gosh I’ve got to find these!!
love ur pfp and username! my first anime
I love how they accidentally made Lia the most relatable character of the show, even though we're supposed to hate her.
We can explain the inconsistency in Bin's knowledge of Sue and Star Sue being the same person easily: the episodes are not in the chronological order. The episode Bin sees the transformation and finds out they're the same person comes before the ones where he knows they're the same person, simple
14:07 For Sue Delivery Meals, these are common Chinese-Korean dishes served in Korea.
The hearty broth is jjajangmyeon, black bean noodles.
The pale broth for the shrimp noodles might be kalguksu (knife-cut noodles) but not entirely sure.
The red broth is definitely jjampong (seafood noodles).
The sliced vegetables are pickled radishes called danmuji.
The confusing last dish is actually sweet and sour pork, tangsuyuk, and that's sweet and sour sauce!
Just a fun little food culture thing I wanted to share!
was just about to comment the same thing lol!
and they are all very tasty!
jjajangmyeon🤤 now I’m hungry
So cool!
I was thinking that the pale broth might be ulmyeon since it fits that Chinese-Korean sorta theme
and the last dish also reminds me of ggampungsaeu or ggampunggi (at least at the place my family usually goes) but I think you're probably right uwu
Considering I didn't even want this 1-hour documentary to end as quickly as it did, longer style videos are always appreciated !
Didn't notice it was 1 hour long until you said it, it was extremely engaging and a wonderful trip down adobe flash memory lane lol
I definitely agree - keep the long form videos! I just binge watched the whole channel in one sitting.
It was so good
avatar sue, it was basically she was super inspired by ojamajo doremi, she literally had the same aesthetic and hairstyle, i think that made me addicted to playing her games and i remember them with a lot of love.
This just transported me back to those summers where I would pull all-nighters on my laptop and once went through 70 pages of dress-up games in one night 🤡 the beauty machine,fashion design, and sue’s beauty room were always my go to’s
I don't speak korean at all, but when I was a kid "Sue Farming" was my absolute favorite.
How did I manage to not only play, but to enjoy a game I absolutely didn't understand? Well it wasn't that different from the english games. I didn't speak english back then so I was just guessing what things meant, so I did the same with Sue games. I became really good at guessing (and there was a lot of trial and error lol)
Edit: OH MY GOD SUE'S RAMEN SHOP!!!!!!!
The way I recognize every single one of those games lol (and that's on spending too much time on the internet as a kid)
Wait, SUE DIDN'T SLAP HER INTEREST?! I remember playing a Sue game (once again in Korean) that had kind of an rpg choice thingy that reminded me of the first episode! And on one of the options where the love interest tried to explain, SHE DID SLAP THEM
OMFG, that confirms my suspicions! in the very early episodes there's a few screens that seemed to at one point have been interactive, and it seems like only one of the choices were documented! i didn't say anything because i had no evidence
I remember this too!! I remember pretty much making up what was happening in that story-game since i didnt speak korean, and now i rly wanna play it again omg
you can find this scene in youtube if you dig a little and yeah, she *did* slap him !
Trick to the ramen game: add the noodles first, then water, then add the green onions and eggs while the water is boiling. The flavor packet can be added whenever, but i recommend adding it before the water. Serve it to the customer before it burns.
Edit: So apparently you can add both the ramen and the flavor whenever as long as you add the rest while the water boils… Happy Cooking!
The ramen shop is notorious among koreans as being hard. I recently went back to play these and I felt joy I had never felt before when I finally beat it.
I'm from Argentina and I loved playing Sue games, especially the one where you have to find her stuff all over her room and then dress her up, I could never beat it tho. I remember being absolutely obsessed with these games as a kid
Aguante Star Sue!!!!
i remember feeling so stupid that i could never get the hang of the sue ramen game and the hairstyle game, thank god i’ve learned that everyone found the game’s difficult lmaoo
For me, it was the chocolate game I could never figure out
sue, at least in the webseries, is canonically 10, as the primary intended audience for it was younger children (as mentioned in the video, the franchise was created by a large snack manufacturing company in korea - and of course, the exposure of snack-related content for impressionable children would mean huge increase in sales). but when turning into her magical idol self, she takes on the appearance of an older girl, seemingly late teens to early 20s, probably because of the chokehold that a korean idol, lee hyori, had on all sorts of media at the time of its initial release. she had a huge influence on basically every trend during that era meaning girls would dress more "sexy" and "mature" in comparison to the prior trends for femininity, being soft, cute, and more "childlike".
realistically, makes no sense whatsoever that she looks so old post transformation, but then again she's just some kid who has a magic wand and do a hannah montana transformation and no one recognizes her.
for the sue games franchise, i think some games are set in an alternate universe (e.g. the frozen chocolate game where she's broke so she needs to sell frozen chocos for a new dress), whilst others are either at least semi-canonical or maybe a bit further in the future
I'm from Russia, but all my childhood I played games about Sue. I had to figure out how to play myself, because there were no translators. But it was so much fun!
опа, жизненно))
44:22 This is the earliest documented appearance of a Crewmate from Among Us. And the game wasn't even conceived yet at that time. They knew what they were doing.
Its good to know people outside korea also knows this character 😂😂😂 Not really important, but she's actually pronounced as "shu". Its early 2000 korean thing, even companies didn't know how to properly translate korean sound into english.
And sue fan animation was a throw back how sue's character was so inconsistant, always have different model and stories from every game and web series.
I mean avatar is spelt avata so probably
isn't it pronounced just as "sue" for english speakers? because when koreans write the term super in hangul, it becomes (슈)퍼 (shu/syu) which in english is simply just "super". so by that logic, isn't it supposed to be pronounced as su for english speakers since it is derived from the word "SUperstar"? sorry if the comment came out a bit condescending, I'm just a bit confused 😅
The Sue cheerleader game and her hiding peanuts will always be my favorite. The one of her with the witch and the potions ??? Muah. Chefs kiss. The makeover game ???? Iconic.
YEAHHHHH LOVED THAT
I love Avata Star Sue finally someone outside of Korea who knows it too!
08:48/ 10:30 I get that Sue + Bin are a couple, also Cho Hui + Seok and Lia +Jun. But Eri + Wook seems so random as Wook had a crush on Lia. Also Simi + Hyuk are so weird for obvious reasons sorry.
13:24 This game was my favorite. Here‘s a tutorial for every haircut:
For the first haircut cut bangs and the remaining six strands once each. She most likely wants it to be dyed dark blue (mix blue and brown), green (mix blue and yellow) or simply brown. To style the hair choose the big rollers.
For the second haircut cut bangs and leave the six remaining strands as they are. She either wants it to be dyed purple (mix blue and red), dark red (mix red and brown) or honey blonde (mix yellow and brown). To style the hair choose the small rollers. Optionally you can add the pearl hair clips to finish it up.
For the last haircut cut every strand as short as possible. She always wants it to be dyed honey blonde (mix yellow and brown). To style the hair choose the flat iron. Optionally you can add the rose to finish it up.
All nostalgia aside, can I just say how much I love your voice?! It's so calming and sweet, I could listen to you all day long
I was not ready to be hit with this much nostalgia, full-on core memory unlocked. I remember as a kid I would play a handful of Korean dress up games and remember Sue but never knew her name and hardly understood what I was doing half the time because of it being in Korean but but her flashy design did stand out and for years I would remember her just never her name. Until now, so I'm happy to finally learn the lore of Sue. xD
Also I remember that hair-dressing game and thought it was a normal hair-dressing game where you could do whatever you want but again I didn't know Korean. And I remember kinda when I got a game over of Sue looking pissed at me and I was so confused of what I did wrong, 6 year old me just wanted was a regular hair-dressing game and didn't knew it had to be done in a correct way.
as a former ggg stan who’s now currently a kpop stan, this ticked all my boxes. your dedication and research is admirable oh my gosh
ggg user to kpop stan pipeline is real omg
@@arieslofi so real
I may not be a kpop stan, but the GirlsGoGames kinship remains strong regardless
@@arieslofi THE PIPELINE OMG it needs to be studied
Damn she's really putting the "Sue" in "Mary Sue"
This is my first time hearing about Sue, and it’s so interesting being able to identify exactly what magical girl series she took very heavy inspiration from. You already mentioned the Creamy Mami and Sailor Moon inspo in the video, but we could take it much further. A lot of the plotlines of the webisodes are what were common in 80’s mg anime (which started with Creamy Mami, but I could see influence from Minky Momo and the rest of the Studio Pierrot anime of that era). The webisode designs are clearly very much influenced by the designs of Ojamajo Doremi as well as early Precure. I’ll definitely be looking more into Sue now, I love falling down the obscure Magical Girl rabbit hole!
I'm currently in my "reawaken my girly side" era and these videos and your aesthetic really really hit the spot. Watching this video I suddenly got excited about magical girls again, and I really adore your aesthetic and the effort and care you put into your videos. So glad I found your channel!
me too! i’ve definitely added some of sue’s clothing to my style boards on pinterest lol
I too am trying to reawaken my girly side because as a kid I thought girly stuff = boring and boys stuff = fun. But now I know it’s horrible to think that and it’s misogyny. So I’m trying to fix that. Anyways, may I ask what is your reason to reawaken your girly side?
@@magpiecritic3083 I think for me it's mostly that I grew up with these aesthetics, especially with dress up games and such. I had a phase where I was really into drawing lolita inspired dresses and trying to be cute and girly when I was young, but I quickly realized that actually presenting that way doesn't really make me happy. When it comes to dressing like this, it's jsut not for me. But I love seeing a friend of mine live out her pink strawberry dreams and I also love the aesthetic, so I'm allowing myself to be more ambiguous and indulge in this style wherever it feels comfortable, even if people around me might be surprised that I like it!
@@leninouche4508 It's always fun yo surprise people with a style, I wish you the best in this era of urs, thanks for answering
15:00 the clothes you pick will dictate how many pieces of chocolate you'll have to make. Fill one whole shape with pink chocolate then add a layer of brown chocolate, and finish with a popsicle. Use the pink button to freeze it and pick out all the chocolate on the place. This was based on actual chocolate that was sold in Korea (see Haitai Choco Kit)
I love this video! Thank you for talking about Sue! ♡♡♡
Yes I loved that game and was so satisfied when I finally figured it out! I also found that candy a couple years back in an Asian Market store in the US. I was freaking out because that game was my childhood. It was so cool to see!
Other than being entertaining- from a historical standpoint these videos are gold worth. We loose things to history all the time, and if no one bothered to gather all the information like this then Sue as a phenomenon would probably be forgotten in 20 years. I get that it maybe doesn’t feel significant today, but it never does in the present and who knows what information will be valuable in the future? Conservation efforts are always appreciated ❤️
As a Korean, this is super nostalgic and interesting. Had absolutely no idea many ppl liked it! Thank you for the video. ✨️✨️✨️
i'm from Chile and even i was obsessed with Sue
had no idea what any of the games said but it didn't stop me from playing it for hours trying to decipher it
in retrospect, the fact no one ever translated the game was somewhat brilliant, it forced kids like me to replay the same game non stop to get what we presumed was the "good ending"
SUE IS EVERYTHING! She is a legend in my childhood. The games and art style are so adorable they influenced my fashion and inspiration even now I still play these games! I still love playing flash games!
how can u play. It says i cant play it cuz flash has been discontinued..
has anyone else mentioned to you the parallels between sue and Ojamajo doremi? (also known as Magical DoReMi) Sue is really clearly designed as a doremi copycat, she has nearly the same design, magical wand that does whatever she wants, and especially considering how in that very same early 2000's magical girl anime, one season focuses on the witchy protagonists making sweets every episode as a patisserie themed season. super interesting! if anything I would suggest you check it out as it is probably the most wholesome series ever.
Sue seems like a mix between Minky Momo and Creamy Mami (being able to transform into an older version of themselves), Sailor Moon (the wand), and Ojamajo Doremi (I mean, look at her) to me. Anyway this is a really good video
Holy crap, I always loved playing these games when I was younger, I could never really understand a lot of what was going on, but I still liked messing around with them. I'm glad to see someone talk about these games, as I've never seen anyone cover them before!
This is the wildest channel growth I think I've ever seen, and I just wanted to say congrats + you are doing amazing!!
ikr i found her first video and went to look for more and there were none
she does not miss
as a korean american kid, i never realized how popular she was with non-korean peeps!!!!!! i grew up on girlsgogames and korean flash game sites i can’t remember the names of 😭 the nostalgia
leah my fav character fr she has an actually good and reasonable backstory and despite being kinda mean shes still a loveable and enjoyable and also shes rly scrunkly
i remember her face so well... you're knocking these videos out of the park girl!! every time it brings back so much nostalgia from spending 30 mins at a time each on the computer with my best friend and her little sister playing girlsgogames, everythinggirl, and barbiegirls !!
I played these so much as a kid. I became godly at the sushi maker and gardening games through 100% brute force. I even got good at the candy factory game, but never good enough to beat it. This video makes me so happy. I always thought Sue was underrated.
Oh god, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO ON THE POTION GAME? I always just picked what I thought were the prettiest potions and got frustrated with the results! But, weirdly enough, I was also quite good with the first candy maker one, it's pretty similar to the windows one, except for the crazy timer
I'm from a rural town in Germany and LOVED the Sue games.
I didn't understand anything, but I just trial and errored thrse games like there was no tomorrow. I especially loved the doll maker, the knitting game and the one with the potions (which, yikes, looking at it now, it's not great lmao). I'm so happy to see a video on this!
I’m from Sweden, and I also loved the Sue games. Also, you’re absolutely right about the not understanding the instructions thing.
the song in the beginning unlocked something in the depth my brain i never thought i would see again 😭🙏
OHHH MY GOD YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GLAD I AM TO SEE SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT SUE 😭😭😭😭 these games were my LIFE and i still credit them for a few trends in my interests like fashion and cutesy styles and PINK. I'm so glad to see someone talk about them more in depth it feels like I see no one actually really talk about them nowadays, thank you for doing that!! 💖💖💖
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO!!! Sue games were a huge part of my childhood but I could never find anyone else who played or even knew about her overseas!
If you want to watch someone crack the comically difficult Sue games, there's a Korean youtuber named SUNBA who actually has a whole gaming playlist dedicated to her. The videos are hysterical if you know Korean, and still funny if you don't.
God, the little ghost girl scene brought back horrible memories lol, I remember watching it and being so freaked out I covered my eyes and ears and asked my mom to turn it off lmao. Also, hard-agree with you on the weirdness of the webisodes. I was too young to be suspicious or weirded out so I kind of accepted them as 'oh I guess those things are supposed to be funny...?' 🥴🤢 I definitely saw some kids in my kindergarten/elementary school absorb that message and re-enact it during recess... um, not a good time.
Thank you for such a lovely and comprehensive overview of Sue!! I had no clue there were so many knock-offs and a whole doll line for the brand.
The “Sue gives a groundbreaking performance that proves that Koreans can be culturally appropriative too” joke killed me every time 😂
i loved sue games as a kid but didnt understand a lick of wqhat it was saying , a lot of the aspects like Making things "Ugly" on purpose were always a turnoff to me because i was a really conscious child that making fun of people for being fat or else was like, Bad and bully behavior, but the art style always caught my attention and the fashion really seem to have left a big impact on me the more i look at it.
the series recap is WILD to me, seems like it really went for a combination of like, shoujo but also gag anime tropes, the flash animation is very expressive for what it is, lots of plays with angles and expressions, definitely will give a try at drawing lilla ominously shrouded in shadows and holding scissors , lots of redraw screenshot potential, thank you for talking about this love ur stuff!
i remember playing sue's chocolate candy maker as a kid and, while i eventually figured out how to make all the candy, the time limit was too restrictive for me to get anywhere close to the goal. a while back i remembered the sue games and decided that it might be easier if i gave it another try, now as an adult. i was wrong.
also, i like how you did the sue buns for this video, they're cute :D
omg.. you woke up my nostalgia. I'm korean and I played the heck out of their online games when I was 12... I had no clue it was popular outside of Korea. there was whole story about her and her friends.. also, it was also clearly endorsed by cookie companies of Korea specifically Haitai because you'd see many games related to that.
The fact that I beat sues chocolate candy maker without a guide feeds my ego everyday 😎
This is a DEEP memory you just unlocked for me! I remember playing so many of these games growing up (specifically the hair cutting game), but the pink buns are how I remember Star Sue the most because the character design reminded me of Magical DoReMi. I absolutely love your videos so far and I’m excited to see your channel growth!
It does look like magical DoReMi omg!!
I have never heard of Sue before this video but she looks a lot like Doremi from Ojamajo Doremi
Actually, the episodes kind of have some things in common with the show. The characters for instance Leah being Tamaki, Sues friend looking like Aiko (but with out her personality), the episode format of her helping her classmates with magical hijinks, and even the backgrounds and art style are pretty similar to the show. I’d say if you want to watch a show similar to the web series with the same vibes minus the problematic elements Ojamajo Doremi would be a fun watch.
What problematic elements did the show had? Are you talking about Sue or Ojamajo Doremi
@@AngelicMilkyYT I was referring to Sue and the racist content that was in the web series that was offensive.
@@Twilightsonata-w7p oh I see
Yeah I instantly clocked this for heavily referencing Doremi and I've never even watched the anime. I had recognized the character design.
It also reminded me a bit of ParaKiss with the fashion. They definitely referenced heavily from Japanese stuff.
I remember when I was a kid, I had an exchange student sister from korea, and we were her host family. Since she understood korean, and I didnt, we bonded over the sue games! She heped me with the obstacles I never understood and I won all of them because of it! Honestly I dont think I'd be the person I am now without em lol
The haunted house story was what I remember the most.
I thought it was really heartwarming how Sue helped the little girl move on. Though I thought the ghost girl wanted to attack Sue for trespassing, I’m glad to know it was more mundane.
I also remembered the soccer one and thought it was strange that they were dressed as devils.
The way you speak, edit, your presentation, dressing up to match the theme of the videos, the research...you’re a powerhouse. Thanks for the videos, I’m really enjoying them!
If you want to cover Korean media in other videos I recommend learning the Korean alphabet as it is fairly easy to learn and identify :-) If you know the alphabet you will probably be able to enter the words into a korean-to-english dictionary or on google translate. Also "Namu Wiki"(나무위키) is a good source on Korean media.
Also yes @15:54, it does ask for a "sexy style" (섹쉬한)
yeah the alphabet is shockingly quick and easy to learn!
11:26 For the Sue Clothing Maker, I loved the black, blue and pink skirt and I only recreated/sew the pink skirt, that my friends loved it on me
12:58 I loved playing the Sue ramen shop, though I didn't love how it ended 😅
15:12 Sue beauty room and 17:30 Sue sneaky snack, omg I enjoyed playing them
I'm from Turkey and I remember even when I was illiterate I would write "sue games" to google and play the hell out of these. I believe at some point every turkish girl in my age range did play these games. Sue was our childhood.
Sue Games were my entire childhood and I'm so glad you're talking about her! I remember seeing little ads for sue dolls as loading screens for her games as a kid and getting really excited, but since I didn't speak Korean I knew I'd never get my hands on one. A few months ago I actually ran into real life sue themed candy that was a bit like the game where you have to make chocolates and I got it immediately!
i never played ANY of the games you've spoken about in any of your videos so far but i've loved learning and hearing about these older girl focused web games! they've all been fascinating and i hope you make many more videos like these. thank you for your hard work!
I remember these series of flash games were my secret and guilty passion!!
I remembered I hid my love for this game from everyone since back then I really hated anything "girly" and pink!!
But I just felt really happy to know that someone else was also named sue!!
I used to hate my name since everyone thought it was weird and " too exotic" since I was the only Asian kid until 3rd grade :^/
This awakened such a big memory from my childhood!! I speak Korean almost fluently these days and now discovering these games were actually in Korean is so weird!! As a child I think I didn't even realize that the games weren't in a language that I understood 😬
i'd love to see you cover the myscene franchise. honestly i'd watch anything you put out
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a lot of the game you mentioned being difficult were actually the simple ones for me, while the "simple" ones were difficult 🫠🫠
especially the chocolate one at 15:00, it's pretty simple if you've ever eaten the chocolate in real life! i used to buy those when i was in secondary school, and they came with a paper doll-esque sticker pack that you can dress sue up with!
the factory ones are easy with trial and error! The time limit sucks but also its easy to restart as much as you want
This is such an amazing blast from the past! I used to play all the Sue games on Y8 back in the day despite not knowing what they said. Weirdly enough, one of the “games” was actually just the first episode of the web series but turned into visual novel format, with clickable text and things like that. I have no idea if it was official or bootleg, but either way it seems to be lost to time.
I can't believe how many of those games I played without realizing they were related. Also most of the objectives in these games apparently completely blew over my head
i legit started crying when i saw the thumbnail. i forgot all about these games yet i was obsessed with them as a kid
This unlocked a part of my childhood I'd forgotten about, but now I can remember spending HOURS playing these, especially the dog salon and the item finding/room search game, oh my goodness I was OBSESSED
Sue casually making cookies that make people fall in love: Love Potion Drugging Time!
This video is so comforting to me in a way I can't even describe. I love how your cadence is somewhat soft and engaging at the same time. You did an amazing job on this video, I appreciate it 💗
Lol I used to play Sue games a lot even though I didn't understand anything. Keep the good work! I'm loving your content a lot! 💖
Just remember that in the spanish girlsgogames server people started spreading that sue was a demon who will go your house at night and eat your eyes while you were sleeping. I believed every single word of that story for almost a year 😂😂
@@xianwho i remember that omg
@@eatsteas me too! 😊
@@xianwho whoa, I didn’t know that part...😳
I always saw Sue as a grown woman, like in her 30's. I wanna ask if anyone else did too, but I assume that was just me haha
Thank you for making this video, I loved Sue games as a kid and still do now
When I played I always assumed she was around 15, to me it justified all the oddities (7 years olds think that 15 is "so mature" lol)
i assumed the same thing! no idea why lol
I GREW UP ON STAR SUE! I'm kind of late now, but I waited so long for someone to make a video about this!!! This was my childhood! Everyday after school, in first grade, I would hop on our family computer and rush to this game. That was in 2014. I am a freshman in high school now! I was OBSESSED. I also used to play other dress up gaming sites such as Girl Go Games, etc. Because of these dress up games, it really influenced little girl me and I was super girly. I think this is what also introduced me to vocaloid, and other anime. These dress up games were my whole life!!! It absolutely KILLED ME when I found out that Flash Adobe had died in 2020, because most of the Star Sue games were Flash and that meant a lot of them were taken down. Now that I'm older, I love learning more about my favorite childhood fixations. ❤
The nostalgia hit so hard and so suddenly I felt a panic coming on, lol. It's a disorienting feeling to have realized you completely forgot the existence of something that once consumed your life.
The "Sue's Frozen Chocolate" game is basically a Sue's version of Cinderella.
(You choose the dress , you make enough chocolate(number is depend on "price" of the outfit you pick) , and now Sue can transform in a princess.
How much chocolate do you need to make for each outfit?
All of the outfits look like they cost a fortune haha.
@@Creatorsan Depend on which one you choose(Each one has different price).....but the minimum is 10 piece of choco if my memory are correct.......for a pair of shoes or a hair style.(So if you only choose this one , you will end up with a Sue that wears a fancy pair of shoe/fancy hair , and in her underwear.)
Those outfit do cost a fortune , and TBH I never able to beat the game with a completed outfit.
“Koreans can be culturally appropriative too”😭😭
been reliving my childhood recently so i’m very glad i found your channel at the perfect timing!
This is such an impressive job! I used to have so much fun playing Sue games as a kid and was so glad I got to learn more about her :) I had no idea that everyone used to play these games!!!!! it warms my heart that they were a part of a lot of people's childhood! thank you 💗💓
I would say that I remember playing almost all the sue games I could find back in the 2000s. It was the first time I was ever introduced to anything Korean at all and I enjoyed the portion game, the makeup game, the food games, the hair cutting game, and I would say that I’m glad to have gotten to play many girly games as a child despite me not acting girly very much on the outside.
Those sue figures reached the Philippines at some point, I remember chewing on her skirt with a heart pattern/print when I was younger.
so much nostalgia! I actually owned a couple of Avatar Sue figures and those images brought back so much memories. So glad your video got suggested and really appreciate the effort that was put into this! (:
This gave me so much whiplash in the best way!! I didn't grow up with Sue via flashgames, but it was on a random CD computer games disk that my dad had found via yard sales as a kid. It had a few game options on it [all in korean] but the one I remember best was the makeup makeover one with all the different options for styles and lashes. Thank you so much for making this and doing a deep dive!! Because it didn't even have a mild translation, I could never find the name.
Personally, I would LOVE longer videos. They are incredibly easy to get into, and I love sitting down and prepping myself for something akin to a bedtime story. (I am also a fan of TheRightOpinion's videos and those breach the 2-3 hour mark easily, and I just love knowing I am going to spend the next few hours immersed in whatever it's going to get talked about.) However I do realize that longer videos take a lot more work, so do what is best for you!
Thank you once again for a lovely video, I enjoyed it lots! I also played these games as a kid and I became a pro at the gardening one xD. Those pests had nothing on me!! Weirdly enough if you spend some time on the harder ones like the chocolate factory and the potato ones, you can actually get the idea by fiddling around with the items and seeing what gets a response and such. Unfortunately, the chocolate factory also requires timing, which...well, no amount of translation can fix xD.
I discovered your channel last night and now I’ve watched all of your videos. Thank you for bring my childhood to life. Keep it up babe, you are amazing! ❤️
I'm from Indonesia, and Sue's ramen cooking game is my favorite. I remember when I was a kid to always fantasizing to ate those ramens.
i know i say this in every single video you post but i think we lived the exact same childhood. i’m so excited to watch this one. AHHH
you’re my parasocial bff
zomggg please make a discord server! I would’ve loved to help out with translations and cultural context. I grew up on Sue so it would’ve been great to do a little revisit but this video is still a really great nostalgia trip! :)
Holy SHIT istg each subsequent game footage pumped me with pure serotonin, those games feel like something from another life with how little I initally remembered and yet... I played SO many of these, and I genuinely can't remember whether it was like, a coincidence or me being in love with this game series... But anyway seeing all of these now I think I just discovered where my entire mental picture of video games came from, like. Those templates in particular are seared so strongly into my brain that just seeing the UI made me instantly remember HOURS of playing each one
Honestly I don't think I'll ever love a game as purely as I loved that hairdressing Sue game, fr I think it is impossible for me to ever reach the sense of peace and happiness I had just by playing that particular one over and over and over
I was kinda vaguely aware of the subjects of your previous videos, and it was great fun learning about those awesome experiences I missed out on, but this one just. Legit floored me right off the bat with how deeply familiar I am with these games
Edit: I think I legit played every single one of these, like. Over and over and over. I remember logging into the knitting game from any computer available near me and chasing that high in modern apps, having a great time figuring out how all the factory/food type games work and then mastering them, being strangely fascinated with getting GOOD at the extremely difficult cheerleading game...
As soon as you started going through the games it just unlocked such specific, detailed, and happy memories of pretty much every single one and I genuinely don't understand how I could've possibly forgotten about these games for so long! It's kinda been a thing for me for years now, to go back and try and find childhood flash games (made harder since flash was made obsolete obviously, but there's also some fun in the archeological hunt lol), sometimes just by myself for fun/nostalgia and sometimes to have a hilarious time playing the girly games with my entirely male friend group... And I feel like I never saw any of these games after the time back when I used to just play them obsessively as a kid, like. I feel like they were somehow just.... Gone, and it makes me sad that these fantastic, shitty games just... Aren't really something my little sister could have ever just randomly found and came to love like I did (which has somehow happened with other flash games before), like. Not from a "back in my day" perspective, but just because they were so genuinely delightful that I can tell I'd have just as much fun with them now even with how they aged, and... Yeah this is definitely one of the bigger senses of loss I felt as a result of flash no longer being supported. These games had no right to have been so much fun and so in depth to have sucked me in to seemingly play them all for SO long despite how shitty they were, and. Like, I'm sad no other little girls are gonna find these and form a connection with Sue, like. She's just alone now and
Yah I'm running on two days without sleep and I think I'm just spouting bullshit here at this point but... God, am I thankful to have found this video!
Also in general I love your style and vibe more with every subsequent video I watch so!! Great job, keep it up with the awesome content!!!
I watched this video like 3 times, I love your commentary on Sue's cartoon episodes so much, and I laughed at your reactions. Thank you for explaining the games too, I was a little kid when I played them