Masha'Allah very true! I spent 9 years studying in a Tablighi madrasah and I know everything there is to know about these people and i can say they are far from the way of the prophet (صلي الله عليه و سلم) and the salaf, I thank Allah that I wasn't brainwashed by their bidah and shirkiyaat
ashari basha I have never seen the tabligh jamaa say that u should worship grave?? the only thing I know is that request that u attend salat. they have not even said that going out is obligatory. when u go out they teach you surah and u make Zikr and invite people to musjid?
When you apply logic instead of Qur'aan and Sunnah upon the understanding of the Salaf you will always run into problems. You apply logic in your comment by raising doubt about the OP's comment because you haven't seen Jamaa'at at-Tableegh call to the worship of graves. You are using a philosophical argument known as "evidence of absence" which basically makes the claim that if there is no evidence of something then it doesn't exist. However, I could argue that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". So just because you claim that you haven't seen Jamaa'at at-Tableegh call to shirk doesn't mean that other Muslims haven't seen them call to it! If I see some Bloods and Crips gang members in Los Angeles and don't see them shoot anybody, doesn't mean that they aren't involved in gang killings! I hope this all makes it clear to you why you should return to Qur'aan and Sunnah instead of logic! When you use logic your arguments will collapse! Allah said "if you disagree on anything refer it back to Allah and His messenger." Allah never said to return things back to "the evidence of absence logic" which is the philosophical argument you used in your comment. No wonder the scholars are always saying Jamaa'at at-Tableegh need to focus on knowledge!
Imaam al-Asbahaanee (d. 535H, rahimahullaah) said: "The sign of Ahlus-Sunnah is that they follow the Salafus-Saalih and abandon all that is innovated and newly introduced into the Deen."
Abo al-Hasan Ali ibn Umar al-Daraqutuni (d. 995 C.E., 385 A.H.) was described by adh-Dhahabi as: "Never having entered into rhetoric or polemics, instead he was salafi. Siyar 'Alam al-Nubula, by al-Dhahbi, vol. 16, pg. 457, no. 332, Mua'ssash al-Risalah, Beirut, 11th edition, 2001
Imaam al-Awzaa'ee [d. 157H, rahimahullaah] said: "Adhere to the narrations of the Salaf (the Prophet and Sahaaba), even if the people were to abandon you. And beware of the opinions of people, no matter how much they beautify it with speech."
In his book, Tabsir al-Muntabih, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani mentioned the ascription as-Salafi and named Abd al-Rahman ibn Abdillah ibn Ahmad Al-Sarkhasi as-Salafi. Ibn Hajar then said: "And, likewise, the one ascribing to the salaf." Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani also used the term, salafi to describe Muhammad ibn al-Qaasim ibn Sufyan al-Misri al-Maliki (d. 966 C.E., 355 A.H.) He said that al-Malaiki was: "Salafi al-madh'hab - salafi in his school of thought."
CALL TO THE WAY OF YOUR LORD WITH WISDOM AND FAIR ADMONITION, AND ARGUE WITH THEM IN THE KINDEST WAY. Your Lord knows best who is misguided from His way. And He knows best who are guided. (Surat an-Nahl, 125).when the greatness of ALLAH swt has entered into our hearts nothing can stop us. Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha illallah Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasulullah.The message is clear and simple,Thats all we need salafi brothers.
Jamaat Tabligh 150 million members and counting,and a presence in somewhere between 150 and 213 countries. It has been called "one of the most influential religious movements in 20th century Islam".we will go on quietly spreading the message of our Prophet Muhammad pbuh irregardless.with a simple message that there is no god except ALLAH SWT and prophet Muhammad pbuh is the final messenger of ALLAH SWT. If its good enough for ALLAH SWT and his messenger Prophet Muhammad saw,then its good enough for us .we listen and we obey. Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha illallah Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasulullah.The message is clear and simple
Numbers are a given importance in democracy but not in Islaam. Allah said, "If you follow most of those on earth, they will mislead you from the path of Allah." Allah says, "but most of mankind don't know." Jamaa'at at-Tableegh claim to teach "la ilaha-illa-lah" but the reality is they're ignorant of its true meaning. This is why you find them talking about the lordship of Allah only while neglecting to warn Muslims from shirk. Even the mushrikeen in the time of the Prophet salAllahu 'alaiyhi wasallam believed that Allah sent the rain down from the sky, has knowledge of all things etc, etc, but this wasn't sufficient for them to enter into Islaam, because they associated others in worship with Allah. Jamaa'aat at-Tableegh don't follow the way of the Prophet salAllahu 'alaiyhi wasallam, rather they follow the methodology laid out by Mohammad Ilyas and their "elders."
There are as many shia there and also as many Sufis who worship graves. Tablighis are on misguidance and I advice you to be a muslim who follows right path not Tabligh
Salafi is a description and doesn't negate referring to oneself as a Muslim. If someone is titled a "doctor" this doesn't negate the fact they may also be a father or a diabetic for example. The only people you find that have a problem with the label "Salafi" is those who don't want a clear distinction to be made between Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'aah and Ahlul Bidah. Furthermore, if using a name like Salafi makes you a "misguided person" then you also have to call the early Imaams of Ahlul Sunnah misguided since they used titles like Athari, Ahlul Hadeeth, Ahlul Athar etc. You would also have to call the scholars and Muslims today who use the word "Sunni" as misguided. May Allah protect us from such claims. How come many Muslims see it as perfectly fine and acceptable to call oneself Sunni to make it clear that we are not from the Shia (who also call themselves Muslims) but "your a misguided person" if you call yourself Salafi to make it clear that your're not Sufi, Ashari, Tableeghi, Matureedi etc, etc.
Masha'Allah very true! I spent 9 years studying in a Tablighi madrasah and I know everything there is to know about these people and i can say they are far from the way of the prophet (صلي الله عليه و سلم) and the salaf, I thank Allah that I wasn't brainwashed by their bidah and shirkiyaat
ashari basha I have never seen the tabligh jamaa say that u should worship grave?? the only thing I know is that request that u attend salat. they have not even said that going out is obligatory. when u go out they teach you surah and u make Zikr and invite people to musjid?
Did the salaf go tell their rulers not to bomb civilians?
No. There were no bombs in the time of the Salaf.
When you apply logic instead of Qur'aan and Sunnah upon the understanding of the Salaf you will always run into problems. You apply logic in your comment by raising doubt about the OP's comment because you haven't seen Jamaa'at at-Tableegh call to the worship of graves. You are using a philosophical argument known as "evidence of absence" which
basically makes the claim that if there is no evidence of something then it doesn't exist. However, I could argue that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". So just because you claim that you haven't seen Jamaa'at at-Tableegh call to shirk doesn't mean that other Muslims haven't seen them call to it! If I see some Bloods and Crips gang members in Los Angeles and don't see them shoot anybody, doesn't mean that they aren't involved in gang killings! I hope this all makes it clear to you why you should return to Qur'aan and Sunnah instead of logic! When you use logic your arguments will collapse! Allah said "if you disagree on
anything refer it back to Allah and His messenger." Allah never said to return things back to "the evidence of absence logic" which is the philosophical argument you used in your comment. No wonder the scholars are always saying Jamaa'at at-Tableegh need to focus on knowledge!
what is opinion on bombing of civilians
Imaam al-Asbahaanee (d. 535H, rahimahullaah) said: "The sign of Ahlus-Sunnah is that they follow the Salafus-Saalih and abandon all that is innovated and newly introduced into the Deen."
Abo al-Hasan Ali ibn Umar al-Daraqutuni (d. 995 C.E., 385 A.H.) was described by adh-Dhahabi as: "Never having entered into rhetoric or polemics, instead he was salafi. Siyar 'Alam al-Nubula, by al-Dhahbi, vol. 16, pg. 457, no. 332, Mua'ssash al-Risalah, Beirut, 11th edition, 2001
Imaam al-Awzaa'ee [d. 157H, rahimahullaah] said: "Adhere to the narrations of the Salaf (the Prophet and Sahaaba), even if the people were to abandon you. And beware of the opinions of people, no matter how much they beautify it with speech."
In his book, Tabsir al-Muntabih, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani mentioned the ascription as-Salafi and named Abd al-Rahman ibn Abdillah ibn Ahmad Al-Sarkhasi as-Salafi. Ibn Hajar then said: "And, likewise, the one ascribing to the salaf."
Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani also used the term, salafi to describe Muhammad ibn al-Qaasim ibn Sufyan al-Misri al-Maliki (d. 966 C.E., 355 A.H.) He said that al-Malaiki was: "Salafi al-madh'hab - salafi in his school of thought."
CALL TO THE WAY OF YOUR LORD WITH WISDOM AND FAIR ADMONITION, AND ARGUE WITH THEM IN THE KINDEST WAY. Your Lord knows best who is misguided from His way. And He knows best who are guided. (Surat an-Nahl, 125).when the greatness of ALLAH swt has entered into our hearts nothing can stop us.
Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha illallah
Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasulullah.The message is clear and simple,Thats all we need salafi brothers.
Jamaat Tabligh 150 million members and counting,and a presence in
somewhere between 150 and 213 countries. It has been called "one of the
most influential religious movements in 20th century Islam".we will go
on quietly spreading the message of our Prophet Muhammad pbuh
irregardless.with a simple message that there is no god except ALLAH
SWT and prophet Muhammad pbuh is the final messenger of ALLAH SWT. If
its good enough for ALLAH SWT and his messenger Prophet Muhammad
saw,then its good enough for us .we listen and we obey.
Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha illallah
Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasulullah.The message is clear and simple
Numbers are a given importance in democracy but not in Islaam. Allah said, "If you follow most of those on earth, they will mislead you from the path of Allah." Allah says, "but most of mankind don't know." Jamaa'at at-Tableegh claim to teach "la ilaha-illa-lah" but the reality is they're ignorant of its true meaning. This is why you find them talking about the lordship of Allah only while neglecting to warn Muslims from shirk. Even the mushrikeen in the time of the Prophet salAllahu 'alaiyhi wasallam believed that Allah sent the rain down from the sky, has knowledge of all things etc, etc, but this wasn't sufficient for them to enter into Islaam, because they associated others in worship with Allah. Jamaa'aat at-Tableegh don't follow the way of the Prophet salAllahu 'alaiyhi wasallam, rather they follow the methodology laid out by Mohammad Ilyas and their "elders."
There are as many shia there and also as many Sufis who worship graves. Tablighis are on misguidance and I advice you to be a muslim who follows right path not Tabligh
What the jamaat has achieved in one day you will never be able to achieve in a thousand years !
Again another misguided person who wd rather be known as Salafi rather than A Muslim..
Salafi is a description and doesn't negate referring to oneself as a Muslim. If someone is titled a "doctor" this doesn't negate the fact they may also be a father or a diabetic for example. The only people you find that have a problem with the label "Salafi" is those who don't want a clear distinction to be made between Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'aah and Ahlul Bidah. Furthermore, if using a name like Salafi makes you a "misguided person" then you also have to call the early Imaams of Ahlul Sunnah misguided since they used titles like Athari, Ahlul Hadeeth, Ahlul Athar etc. You would also have to call the scholars and Muslims today who use the word "Sunni" as misguided. May Allah protect us from such claims. How come many Muslims see it as perfectly fine and acceptable to call oneself Sunni to make it clear that we are not from the Shia (who also call themselves Muslims) but "your a misguided person" if you call yourself Salafi to make it clear that your're not Sufi, Ashari, Tableeghi, Matureedi etc, etc.