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Liiiisten, I have absolutely used the aftershave ball cream on my face on the rare occasion that I actually shave it. My wife uses it in her armpits. Good stuff!
Though my mom didn't vlog, she was an intense Facebook mom. While she didn't record me, she posted hundreds of photos of me to her public Facebook without my consent. I completely agree with the daughters hard stance.... I grew up knowing hundreds of strangers had seen and heard all of my embarrassing moments, photos I didn't want posted. There is no ethical way to post your children to the Internet, because no child is able to consent to content being made about them.
I very, very rarely post pics of my kids on Facebook. If I want my family to see any, I send them to them directly. Even with privacy settings, you can never be sure that no one else can see them. And in my case, even with (what I assumed was) pretty tight settings, my MIL would take my photos and post them on her Facebook. And then my FIL (who I actually had blocked) would get them from her FB and post them to his, with my kids names! I had him blocked because he would not be careful about who he friended, and would massively overshare. When I realized what was happening, I felt extremely violated.
I wonder why parents with good intentions don't just record their kids as they please and then just don't post it. Maybe when the kid turns 18 they can decide what gets uploaded and what doesn't and then at that point deal with the money situation 🤷♀️ that way the parents have that digital timeline to look back on and reminisce and the child (now adult) consents to what could be shown
My mom wasn't quite as intense, but me and my sis always asked her to not post our pics in Facebook and she still did most of the time. They often just don't get it...
Thank you so much for sharing part of your story. I think stories like yours are such a valuable insight into how this should play out. I hope you've found some healing
Let’s not forget, Shari has aunts that are family vloggers as well. She is not just speaking out against Ruby, she is speaking out against her cousins’ parents and that is incredibly brave of her. I hope Shari gets everything she wants, needs and deserves after everything she has been through. ❤
Kevin Franke better not get off scott free, he may have not directly abused his kids, but his neglecting his kids had definitely impacted the whole family in a highly damaging way smh.
He watched it happen. He was there and agreed with the punishments these kids got. He might not have been there for the Jodi incident but he is just as bad. I mean, what dad doesn't see or know what's going on with your kids for over a year? There really is no excuse for that in my opinion
I don’t believe for a second that he didn’t know or that he didn’t participate. He shouldn’t get to make everyone else take the fall while he roams free.
As a disabled person, I’ve found that disability family content most of the time just infantilizes people especially those with Down syndrome, cerebral palsy and Autism (which I have). Autism moms as we call them, can sometimes make it their whole personality and can give way to a Gypsy Rose situation.
I came to the comments specifically looking for someone speaking up about this. I'm AuDHD and I honestly find it difficult to interact with Autism moms. They tend to be SO disrespectful to us as Autistic adults and abusive to the Autistic community as a whole... including their kids in the way they portray and speak about them online. It's infuriating, especially when they praise harmful organizations like Autism Speaks and push the puzzle piece on us despite our speaking up about why we find it harmful and reject it as a representative symbol!
My oldest daughter (33) had her 1st child in February. She requested, upon finding she was pregnant, not to share pictures of her child online with my Facebook friends or on my blog. I agreed without a qualm. It was not unfair for her to make that request. Since I am in NC and she is in AZ, she shares loads of pics and videos via texting. They are on my computer and while I may show a friend a pic on my phone face-to-face, the child has never been posted by me anywhere.
You're a good mom. A lot of parents wouldn't respect their child's wishes about their grandbaby. I'm sure your daughter has a great amount of love and respect for you
Shari is a great voice for children who are being exploited online. Her speech was empowering and hope her voice reaches even further down the road for changes to come. We need all of the states to put more laws in place to protect kids online
What an incredible young lady to bring this all to light even if this has caused her humiliation, she still fights for the rights of other children! ✌🏻🙏🏼❤️
I believe she didn't intend to word it in this way. She might have been highlighting the fact that there's a lack of access to it in other countries, so to use it as a punishment or control is wrong. You're absolutely right!
She definitely didn't mean it should be a privilege, but right now it is unfortunately. It should be a given, it should be shared by all. No child deserves to starve, no parent deserves to watch their children starve, no person deserves to starve. No one deserves to starve or live in a food desert. She meant well in what she said, Swoop is absolutely so kind. I worked as a manager of a middle school kitchen and the amount of times I was supposed to THROW AWAY good food while there were a bunch of kids who couldn't afford to eat was astounding. Well fuck that, I fed ever damn kid whether they could pay or not. To be a child with hunger pains surrounded by kids eating great food... It's just cruel. 2 of those angels didn't even eat over the weekends. So every Friday we hooked them up, emptied their backpacks in my office and filled both bags with milk, sandwiches, cereals their younger siblings would like, vegetables, cookies, juices, whatever they wanted. None of us ever got caught but if we had we would've been fired and prosecuted by USDA because it's their property technically. Miss those kiddos. No child deserves to be hungry.
@Rainy-In-The-Desert no. Food is not a privilege, it's needed to live. I know you guys are trying to defend her wording, but you all are wrong as well. I believe Swoop thought the word was appropriate, why I don't know.
@@Rainy-In-The-Desert middle school cafeteria manager? Sure. Anyway,at any school,of you don't pack or pay for lunch,as a parent and former child,they'll give you a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, milk,etc. Let's not forget FREE LUNCH,is real,even in high school.
I don't know if the church itself has any involvement with CPS, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are a lot of Mormons running the agency. Having been raised Mormon and with several niblings also being raised in it, I can confidently say that I wouldn't want 99% of people who believe in that faith to have any part in deciding who is and isn't taking proper care of their children.
It's not by chance that many Tax avoiding and religious bodies have so many people in prominent governmental and regulatory positions. It's by design. Like any mafia, the best way to avoid accountability, control threaten and scapegoat is by taking over the regulatory bodies and making them work for you.
They're part of every government organization throughout the entire state, as is the xtian church as a whole in every other state but more higher degree in the south and midwest. It's permeates the courts, CPS, clinics, public schools, etc, and causes a LOT of issues.
its not involved with cps here officially, but it is heavily influenced by their practices. most ppl run to their church than thestate here so they can keep is silent. I think if religious places don't wish to be associated with grooming and silencing victims, they should maybe start being against it I like maybe three moms in this state- and its due to them being fully rounded adults that understand this crap isn't right to their kid, caught or not...
Utah children services is a literal joke. It is THE culture to treat women and children as possessions. The polygamist compound in the U.S. isn’t far from St George/Ivins Utah (Arizona border/Colorado City) where child abuse is rampant. I know what I’m talking about. I’m ex-LDS who lived nearby in Cedar City. Good job, SWOOP!
It’s a different world that I’m learning about. I wish I could pick your brain or you could just tell me about the LDS/mormon Utah culture. It’s fascinating, heartbreaking and super disturbing. I’ve been nothing a theme in our country: different communities who thrive on punishment culture. They seem to get excited, salivating when it’s their time to punish, when they think someone has wronged, and they package it as tradition or hierarchy, but it’s a giddiness to inflict some kind of hurt upon others. Anyway, thank you for sharing. I bet you have some stories from your days in Utah, and I’m glad you’re free. 💙
@@noodlepoodlegirlI see that giddiness for punishment in progressive circles too, primarily in people who are exvangelical or other high control groups. Like they ditched one dogma for another. I really wish people would see the patterns more.
@Heydodoakskdkdjf I've noticed that too! There are so many younger Millennials and Gen Zers who superficially look like they carry progressive beliefs, but when you look closer, it's like they only changed superficially and not deep down. They still appeal to authority, think in terms of black and white, proselytize, struggle with nuance/ambiguity and the unknown, socially ostracize and eviscerate people who don't conform to the group's ideas, try to force people into roles and boxes, and insist on an us versus them mentality (a zero-sum mentality). It makes me realize that these people... while they might've stopped with the "homosexuality is a sin" sort of talk, they really haven't deconstructed in any other sort of way. To continue with that example, they just moved from "being gay is a sin" to "being a homophobe is a sin", in terms of evolution.
For 7 years, I worked a job where I was on call 24 hours a day, and it was exhausting and extremely, extremely stressful. I cannot imagine putting that level of pressure on a child. I feel so deeply for these children, and I’m so, so proud of this incredible young woman for coming forward and standing up for children like her. I’m so glad she’s brought so much of this industry to light.
Personally I've always preferred the way "Maybe even us" flows better. Something about that extra syllable is *chef's kiss* to my brain. Whatever you decide to do, it is your channel and ultimately, the rest of us are along for the ride. Thank you for another dip into the suspool!
It flows better for sure, but I also think that “Or is it us?” gives off a more a paranoid, gaslighty, ‘can I even trust myself?’ vibe whereas “Maybe even us.” implies having critical thinking and being aware of our own biases and those of others. It feels more like “have a healthy dose of skepticism, the openness to new information and the willingness to change your opinions accordingly, don’t just blindly believe what you hear or get conspiratorial to rationalize those beliefs.”
When my sister had her little lad, she was insistent that his face never be posted online. I never understood at first, but the more I see about Family Vlogging and how children are impacted once they’re grown up, the more I get it now. My heart goes out to these poor kids.
My daughter asked us not to post our granddaughter to much on Facebook, but its not only for her mental well-being later on but also due dad’s job. I mostly ask if i can share our granddaughter with our flyball team members but that’s a private account.
As someone who’s been forced to suffer under Utah’s troubled teen industry, it just seems like the state thrives off of children. Breaking, abusing, and pretending to care for them.
@ I’ll get justice when the places I had to go get shut down, and the people who worked there have it as a permanent scar on their record. Other than that, I’ve moved on. My family is supportive and regrets sending me there (the vast majority of facilities lie about how ethical they are, and limit any and all communication. So they thought they were sending me to a place that was better than what it was.)
I'm very anti family vlogs now. I used to post my nieces, we would do fantasy/fairies/fashion photoshoots with candid videos. one of the videos blew up and got 40k views and I was offered to monetize my channel. while I was thinking about it, I was notified by a comment that the reason that video got so many views was because it was saved on a pedo playlist. I privated all the videos with my nieces and didn't look back. I only post my kids to my private profiles for distant family and my kids are never shown publicly. just don't do it.
Absolutely!! I have even see YT comment on very popular family vlogger channels. It’s INSANE!! Wanted to mention, it’s the legit YT channel, not a fake. It’s awful. So many children are being exploited.
We need legislation that protects kids. We can’t trust corporations to do the right thing, they won’t. We need laws to be made that force companies to comply, punishable even at their financial detriment.
It's sad that the TH-camrs themselves to say something. Also, the fact that the audience of the channels sometimes adds to it. An arts and crafts channel I watch, Moriah Elizabeth, has had to say multiple times to her audience that she does not want her two daughters and their names to be on the internet, and to stop asking. But they don't care.
@@cassidythecatI have seen that too. It's so sad that people don't understand why someone may want to "remain private" while still being a public figure.
I am a mother of four kids, three over 19, and my youngest is 12. I asked my youngest about starting a family vlog, and she said, "Hell no, I don't want people watching me. I don't want pedos staring at me." She said enough, and I never brought it up again.
The fact that she has to say she's not there to "provide the solution" is exceptionally depressing to me. She's talking TO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE. SHE is not the person who SHOULD have to provide a solution anyway! THEY'RE. IN. CHARGE. They're the ones who should be told what the problems are and THEY find the solution. THEY search for experts to look into the problem that's been highlighted to them so THEY can find the solution. How the hell is a singular person without any power supposed to rock up with a folder of the perfect solution? That's not her job! That's theirs! And shame on them that it's taken this long to even bother at least faking caring about hearing about the problem, let alone looking for a solution.
You are right but the truth of how the USA functions- the burden is on the slave with less power and the ones with power get to do what they want no matter how much it hurts. Until the roots of slavery are destroyed these evolutions of slavery will continue- Survivor of modern day slavery.
The concept of forever is wild. My dad tried to explain it to me when I was little, he said “imagine the smallest bird you’ve ever seen - it flies around the entire world and takes one bite out of the earth per flight around the world. By the time he finishes eating the whole world, he isn’t even close to “forever”.
My mom tried explaining it to me with the "grains of sand, drops of water in the ocean" metaphor I've seen a lot, but the thing that made it stick was actually when I learned of dinosaur fossils! They were here a reeeeeeeeeallly long time ago, and they're still being discovered. What's going to find our bones someday?
i’m glad you covered this because ever since the uproar of Ruby’s initial arrest, i haven’t seen it talked about at all. i didn’t even know Shari had spoken. it’s important to highlight the voices of victims, always.
We need to uplift Sherri, and turn the microscope on Sam for his turn in court. Every video makes it clear that "they are a 'good' little LDS family" meaning the father is 'head of the house', disciplinarian, and decision maker. Not a fcking CHANCE that he gets to run away from everything he did.
Jesus if you TH-cam won’t let you say half the words in this piece they can’t crack down a little bit harder on family vloggers. What an impressive articulate young lady. Great speech. Hope it’s heard
RIGHT!?! I’ve been trying to keep up with her case, but so many people have moved on, and I am a bit too dumby dumb dumb to read the actually released court jargon! Thank you Swoop!!! For helping us dummies keep up with this case!
The fact that food can even be seen as a priviledge and not a right is so saddening. All people should have the RIGHT to nutritious meals it shouldnt be a priviledge
I don’t know what it’s going to take to ban family blogging. I don’t even have social media and I could list 15 horrific situations that have happened because of it. Since we know these parents are going to choose money over the safety and privacy of their children, It’s time for the government to step in! I’m getting my masters to be a mental health counselor and last semester, I wrote one of my final papers on the dangers & long-term psychological/traumatic effects… It has to stop.
Family Vlogging is big business... for the family, the state, TH-cam... it's a snowball rolling downhill and is only getting bigger, Rubys is just the worst, but she's also the 1st... sadly, she will be outdone, and some poor child will lose their life over family vlogging eventually
Ruby Franke is not the First. “Fantastic Adventures,” “DaddyO’5,” and let’s not forget reality TV like the Duggars. Ruby can be credited with shining on a spotlight on these problems. Now we have the Nurse Hannah issue. At the very least, this subject should be closely examined. Former child influencers have the benefit of hindsight and lived experiences. We definitely need to listen to them. But I agree, Ruby will not be the last.
Australia recently banned children under 16 to have a social media account, but-I’m not sure if family members are permitted to post their children on social media. I think it’s a start, but I wonder how they’d enforce it? Do you think that would help?
You’re right- we need legislation to hold greedy companies and families accountable, they’re not going to do it themselves. Hope our happens soon. I fear many right wing politicians aren’t interested in protecting children/child labor laws, and would in fact rather profit from them, so we’ll see..
I'm from Utah and still live in Utah. There is literally no separation between church and state in every facet it functions! It makes not being LDS a pain in the ass. Especially when the church is complete bull and a cult!
Yep and that's what's trying to be implemented in the federal government. That's what the infamous project 2025 is and many southern states have now passed laws forcing public schools to implement xtian theocracy to the students and teach creationism BS to all students no matter what.
Parents think they own their children, when what they actually own is the responsibility to care for and raise their children, and that can and should be taken away when it can be proven that they are abusing their ownership.
As someone who has worked in policy making, 15% being set aside in a trust is small but having policy on the books is a really hard first step. In the future this can be increased, getting policy passed is much more helpful than having the perfect policy!
She didn’t have to do this. She probably didn’t really want to do this. Who would? Thrust into the limelight, first by her parents filming her, then due to her mother’s arrest and her family’s trauma, I wouldn’t blame her for trying to slip into the shadows. But she realized she had a chance to speak up on behalf of others, and she did. I really respect her courage.
I think Pleasant Peasant Media/Momma Cusses/Gwenna does a beautiful job of sharing things about her family in a way that may be helpful for others, and opens up conversation. With her younger kids she doesn't show them on camera and reenacts situations playing the roles of her children instead of putting them on camera. Her older daughter sometimes makes appearances but she is old enough to consent and it always seems like stuff she wants to be included in, I don't think I've ever seen her in anything embarrassing.
Yes! And she doesn’t use their names, so the stories can’t be traced back to them. She calls them “the littles” or the “middle” to preserve their anonymity 🤍
I would call her a parenting influencer, she protects her kids privacy and shares evidence based parenting advice. Family vlogging makes their kids the focus for profit. Gwenna makes HER mistakes and failures as a parent the focus, yes for profit, but also to help younger parents. Theres a place for parents sharing advice, there is no place for family vloggers.
It shouldn’t be a privilege, BUT considering the fact that 18% of all children in the US experience food insecurity every year (and that’s a growing number btw) unfortunately the fact is that it IS a privilege. It absolutely shouldn’t be, but it certainly is.
@@AshleyFromTX Well....if you live in USA it's a privilege. In most other countries there are human rights laws where "the right to food" is a LAW. ...and people still say that the US is a first world country. LOL!
I think Gwen, Mommacusses, does it very well. She has two toddlers who are not filmed at all, but her oldest daughter is allowed on camera if she wants to, and she has conversations about how the internet is forever and her daughters digital footprint.
What happened to child labor laws? I was told I wasn't allowed to work when I was a child because of child labor laws. I was seven years old when I wanted to start my business for selling my crochet and paintings but I was told I was too young to work.
Child labor laws weren't made for family business. And even though a lot of it had been adapted and amended, the concept of vlogging is still extremely new. We're talking about one generation, were still in the process of defining things. NOW we have proof how harmful vlogging content is because NOW the victims are old enough and articulate enough to speak up. So NOW policy makers can move their tails and actually address the issue
Banned - children can not consent. It's that easy. No vlogging, no toy review, non of it - you can talk about diseases and disabilities WITHOUT showing your kids or naming them
The thing that kind of impacted me the most in this whole CA Situation was the fact, that I know how this turns out when no one stops it. I have seen enough True Crime that i have seen similar cases. If he didnt escape, at least one of them would have died. The crazy control about food and exercise is textbook.
My personal belief is that children should NOT be "influencers"! There are waaaaay too many creeps out there and I have never posted any picture of my child to the internet, let alone a vlog!
Stolen Childhoods. This is so predatory, I cant imagine the damage growing up with a camera shoved in your face. Good for you Shari. This issue needs more light shined on it, good work Swoop.
A very moving, articulate and honest speech delivered by a young woman who has suffered as a victim of family vlogging, but wants to lead the charge against these abusers and be the voice for the victims of it. I hope that authorities heed her voice and act by framing laws that protect children in this arena. I hope that Sheri and her siblings are finally on the road to healing and are hopefully thriving. Both Franke parents, Ruby and Kevin, disgust me to say the least. Thank you Swoop for shining a light on this issue and for sharing Sheri’s speech. She is such an amazing young woman.
I don’t have kids. I won’t have kids. I LOVE the kids I’m ’auntie’ to, I’m so blessed I get to hang out with my friends kiddos. I would walk through fire for these babies. I also recently looked at baby photos of me from the 90’s, and looking at those photos brought back great memories I got to share with my mom. My friends with kids *might* share the ‘official’ pictures of their children - like the school photo or something, but the rest of the time, if they share a cute photo, the kids faces are blurred or emoji’d out. Privately, and because we live around the globe, I get sent pics, but we all agree we NEVER share the kids pics publicly. EVER.
I knew a couple who are very into cosplay, and included their kid in their hobby. Sometimes they include their kid in photos and clips, which are mostly meet-and-greets with character actors, or huge group photos at conventions. The kid is rarely the focus of the video clips; the focus was more on the costumes, events, and the adult character actors' reactions. The kid mostly "went along with whatever" when they were younger, but when they got older, their parents set a rule where were all the kid has to say is "no" and the camera is gone, and any recorded or posted content is gone, no questions asked- even old photos and clips are removed if the kid wants them gone. I honestly and genuinely believe if that kid asked for it, the whole account would be wiped clean to the best of the parents' abilities. Obviously it's not a perfect situation, but giving the kid the control and the right to decide is something I respect a lot.
In the words of Ringo Starr, "I love kids; I used to be one." You don't have to be a parent to care about the safety of children. When I went trick-or-treating with my bros kids, I asked before taking pics, made assurances that they wouldn't be posted anywhere, and even asked permission before showing my coworkers. Even if my bro and SIL posted pics (they usually don't), it's not getting posted by me. My nieces and nephews can't consent to their likeness being online.
Not to a Franke degree, but good things, fun experiences/gifts, were absolutely transactional in my house growing up. It absolutely messed with my relationship with joy, which I learned to suppress for years. Recently diagnosed with metastatic C word. I’ve decided to face it with defiant joy. Medical bills are high, and we definitely aren’t headed to Disneyland, but I find simple ways to bring the joy in every day. It’s so important to me that my kids get that for free, from love, and often. I’m grateful to this community, and to Swoop, for bringing joy into my life. ♥️♥️♥️
15:20 “There is no such thing as a moral or ethical family vlogger.” Goodness sweetheart, I’ve never heard a more true statement “straight from the horses mouth”. You deserve ALL the praise, as well as your siblings. Such strong young people, my heart goes out to each one of y’all🥹🫶🏼
This is absolutely insane, 10-15% should be considered indentured servitude . There are child labor laws in Hollywood, so why haven't they crossed over for vlogging? It is the same thing. The children who are the entire company get paid scraps. 😢😢😢😢
I may be misunderstanding what I've been reading about the law, but it's 10-15% has to be put into a savings account for when they turn 18, but the total compensation is supposed to be greater than that. However, only 10-15% must go to savings, while additional compensation can go directly to the child (which still problematic if you ask me.) I just wanted to clarify that this isn't what is expected to be fair compensation, just this is the portion that has to go to their future selves so they have something to start their adult lives.
I'm neurodivergent, and I love repetition. I often say "the thing" along with my favorite youtubers that they say in every video. So I liked "maybe even us" in your intro, and didn't get used to you saying the other one when you changed it. My reaction here when you said "maybe even us" made me go, "Yay, you said it RIGHT." lol. SO all that said, you can say either one you want, and I promise I won't be mad, but that's my insight. I was one of the fans who was sad when Rhett and Link tried to stop saying "Let's talk about that" in their intro on Good Mythical Morning.
“Maybe even us, come on in the waters fine.” Just makes the neuro spicy in my brain happy. It just feels better. Like smaller forks and smaller spoons. It’s just right you know.
Same, plus it flows better. "Is it us" is too jabby (1, 1, 1 vs 2, 2, 1) I COULD see a middle ground of "or maybe it's us" but it NEEDS at least one 2-syllable word
We ask our son to share his photos and stories on Facebook, even with my Facebook being solely family and friends (about 80) and completely set to private. Children are whole ass people and deserve to be treated as such.
Unfortunately I'm afraid of the world, of people & there are way too many "creeper's" out there & I would be terrified to put my children out there like that. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Very powerful speech from Shari. She is being a voice for all the children being exploited around the world. I truly believe in time she will make a huge impact and things will change. She’s an amazing, intelligent, strong woman. I hope that she is healing and doing well.
I used to post my kids baby pics on FB to share with family. When I had to mental click that strangers were seeing my children (while not in inappropriate situations, still babies) I quit. Today my husband streams and we take care to keep them out of the streams/videos. Their voices float in, but we want our kids away from that kind of potential attention.
It's still interesting to me that Jackie Coogan was Uncle Fester in the Addams Family. His life experiences were so important for future generations of child actors.
Wow. The captions on your videos are amazingly done. It helps to read along when my brain gets tired. These captions were perfect from what I saw. Just wanted you and your team know that it was noticed and appreciated.
The kids aren’t even getting 15% of the entire profit. They’re getting 15% of what they “legally earned.” Also, I’m pretty sure even California’s laws have enough loopholes to avoid paying kids.
I have been waiting for this video. I’m so interested in what she has to say. Social media twisted so much about the story. It’ll be good to hear from someone who was actually there.
So, I’m not a child actor but I can relate to the whole parent stealing your money thing. My mother passed when I was 9. My dad remarried a couple of years later to a woman that makes Cinderellas stepmother seem like an angel. Since my mom had passed I was supposed to inherit our house since it was her grandparents home and was given to her. She also had a small life insurance policy that she left for my dad and I. Also, since she passed I was now entitled to her social security payments till I was 18 and graduated high school. The $600 monthly social security was supposedly taken and used for our bills, but my dad worked full time and my step mom worked under the table jobs. Why was I paying for our bills? Isn’t that my father and his wife’s responsibility. If my dad wasn’t able to work or something then I’d understand, but that was not the case. My dad and stepmom took my college fund, my dad sold our home and used all the money from the sale. I look back and I realize how I was taken advantage of, because the day I graduated high school they were ready for me to get out. I was just a paycheck to them, and my poor mother-I pray she does not know what I’ve been through since she passed because it would destroy her literal soul. To parents, your child owes you nothing. You chose to bring a child into the world, you chose to keep the child and raise them. That child had no say so in being born, they didn’t ask to be here. They are here for your enjoyment/pleasure or whatever, and you are the one who owes your child by giving them love, safety, and meeting their basic needs.
Having this be unregulated will lead to people specifically having children to exploit for views then abandoning them at 18 and keeping the money. Not implementing regulation means the government is OK with that. I do not understand why the child worker (eg child actor) laws not automatically apply here.
Right?! With how chaotic life is about to be the next 4-10 years... Ughh that's chilling, there absolutely will be children born simply to make content with 🤬😭😫
Swoop, you are so gracious with your time and energy and attention. Thank you for expending all of that for such admirable causes. I am so proud of Miss Franke (the Younger…obviously) too! What a woman!
Shari did amazing🩵 that speech was insanely well written. Thank you for covering this Swoop. Always appreciate a new dip into the suspool! Also I feel “Maybe even us” has the best ring to it 😊
my husband doesn't follow true crime like i do and he was every bit as pissed when i told him about Ruby Franke. no child deserves what those kids went through and i hope they're healing from this now that she is incarcerated
I hope this also kicks off a conversation about CA. I see far too many videos and posts online about “my kid didn’t like dinner so now they’re not allowed to eat until breakfast / until they finish dinner”. That’s called CA! It’s not a punishment to withhold food, it’s CA! And even if it’s done in a non-abusive way, it’s going to cause a seriously unhealthy relationship with food and mealtimes (speaking from experience)
Same. There's this thing in dogs called "food aggression", and it's caused by them having food denied while they're puppies (either intentionally or just by the situation they're in, you see it in strays a lot). Where it isn't documented as well is in humans. My siblings and I all have what in dogs would be labeled as food aggression, we get irrationally angry if someone even jokes about taking our food. Why? Because we grew up with food insecurity, and food was used as a punishment. Now we all have huge issues around food.
i love this gal and her videos so much but it is so shocking to me when ppl on youtube are reporting serious ass content that will affect the lives of the children involved for their entire lifetimes, but they cut in to show an ad about BEARD RAZORS 😭 we as a society are so out of touch i just cannot believe it anymore.
the more i watch this video, the more i hate the fact that ads were involved 😂 it really seems like no one actually cares about this family unless they’re getting a check. just really sad to me imo. some videos do not warrant adsense, especially when you get enough views already.
@@ashxx8659 I thought so too. :( I also hate how we're talkig about how brave and well-spoken Shari is, and then proceed to interrupt her every 5 seconds. If she's so well-spoken, let the woman speak. I love Swoop but I almost had to turn this one off
Saying they should be grateful is like telling someone they should be grateful that their job gives them a paycheck. I’m not grateful when I get my rightfully earned money, because its not it’s not given to me without expectations.
As a parent i cant understand anyone who wants thousands of strangers looking at their child. Even innocent or wholesome moments shared to tiktok. Why do you want strangers to be a part of that? I think of it like what if that many strangers were in the room at the time watching. Would that be ok or would it be weird?
Don't take child rearing advice from family vloggers... anyone willing to exploit their child for $$$ isn't someone who should be telling anyone how to raise their children and definitely not someone who's advice you should listen to.
I appreciate how seriously you handle this, and with a focus on the victims. A lot of channels dramatize these kinds of stories and it takes away from the seriousness of the topic. My first time watching one of your videos and I'm loving your personality and calm voice!
Swoop 💜 You girl, are an inspiration! I have a birthday on Saturday. I have had, our favorite, fibromyalsia for over 35 years. My degree is a BS in experimental Psychology. Since that science spent 25 years in Behavior Modification I am just now, learning to deal with life after a narcissistic mother and being SA'd for years. At least I am still LEARNING! I can't imagine what Sheri even went through but I am so proud of her and you!💜
I've been following this story since 2021, seeing these kids finally get justice and be able to speak the truth of what happened is heartbreaking, but so so important. It's the first of many stories that may one day surface about this industry
When my kid was a baby and toddler, I posted pics and told stories about them on a private Instagram account simply to make it easy to share pics with a large family/friend group, but I never wanted the public to watch them grow up. When they were about 5, they said they didn’t want me to do it anymore. So I stopped. Now unless they specifically say they want me to, I don’t post pics anymore. I don’t think I've posted one in years at this point. They didn’t even want me to take pics least Xmas, so I didn’t take any. Kids are people with their own opinions and lives, not their parents' property. If your kid doesn’t consent to their lives on a screen, then *don’t post it*. If you want kids to understand consent, then don't break theirs even with something you might see as trivial.
Even in TV, movies and SM it makes me cringe. There are TOO many bad people out there in the dark web. If I take pictures of my kid, I make DAMN sure she is fully clothed. If she isn't I WILL. NOT. post any photos of her. The Internet is forever and I wish people would realize that. I'm almost to the point where I'm like .... Yeah, I shouldn't post my kid because everybody is bad.
Family vlogging is unforgivable. There are predators on the internet and how any loving parent can take a chance that posting their children on the internet will expose them to dangerous individuals is beyond me! No child should have their innocence and privacy stolen.
I feel for these children. I hope the children are able to heal from this nightmare and find wonderful lives in the world. That so called mother can find the most mustiest underside of the jail to call home. I love that for her. I'm trying to get some sneaky holiday pressies done. It's been challenging. Thank you for being a voice of reason Swoop. Make sure you take care of yourself and your amazing team.
Sorry, me again. My kids actually told me I was putting to much in their lunches. Like to much meat on their sandwiches and too many extras. Then I explained why. Sometimes kids just mistakenly forget their lunch and sometimes kids come from homes where they don't have enough. I wanted my kids to have enough so if they wanted or felt the need to share which I knew they would anyway, they wouldn't be going hungry. When my kids were in grade school a lot of PSA were about the effect being hungry could have on a kids ability to learn. I think my kids were support of because the food never went to waste.
I was as a child a member of the LDS church and while I wouldn’t say everyone in that church is bad, I would say the LDS church encourages a lot of bad values.
I was so emotional listening to Shari especially at the end. I've never met her and never watched their chanel yet still as a mother, my heart breaks for her! I hope the internet and her community rally around Shari! Her lived experience is so valuable to insight change!!
As a longtime fan of Zoella, I genuinely admire her approach to family vlogging. She and Alfie have established clear boundaries regarding what they are comfortable sharing online, which I believe sets a healthy example for others in this space. Alfie takes the lead in editing the videos, ensuring everything aligns with their standards, and Zoe reviews them before they are posted, adding an extra layer of care and consideration. What stands out to me is that their content isn’t focused entirely on their children. Instead, it offers a broader look at their family life, including moments with Zoe's brother, mother, sister-in-law, and Alfie’s sister, brother-in-law, and parents. The emphasis is on their entire family dynamic rather than making their children the centerpiece of their online identity. Although parenting is an integral part of their lives, their daughters are only a small aspect of the content they choose to share. This balance is what makes their vlogging style feel thoughtful and respectful to me.
I think they have a good balance, if there is one, and they never show bad things about their kids for views. They never over share, and if they never showed their kids again, people would watch. I think that's the difference between them and upfront family vloggers
Child labor of laws have a limited number of hours that a minor can work. If these kids are getting paid then they're working. The kids appear to be filming a good part of their day How do these labor laws apply for these family vloggers?
I live in Utah and was sexually abused and exploited by my own mother for over two years. She was caught, convicted, and went to prison. It was the 90s, and I remember so clearly that the judge gave her an extremely small sentence because "every child needs a mother." I wish I was surprised to hear that Ruby's sentence is small.
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Children cannot consent, and they should never be used to make money. The solution is to not allow it. I really don't think it needs to be any more complicated than that.
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Liiiisten, I have absolutely used the aftershave ball cream on my face on the rare occasion that I actually shave it. My wife uses it in her armpits. Good stuff!
You Know you could just let her testimony play and THEN comment.
And just when I thought I couldn't hate the Frankey parents anf the rest of the family vloging any further.
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Though my mom didn't vlog, she was an intense Facebook mom. While she didn't record me, she posted hundreds of photos of me to her public Facebook without my consent. I completely agree with the daughters hard stance.... I grew up knowing hundreds of strangers had seen and heard all of my embarrassing moments, photos I didn't want posted. There is no ethical way to post your children to the Internet, because no child is able to consent to content being made about them.
This, same friend. Thank you for sharing. ♥️
I very, very rarely post pics of my kids on Facebook. If I want my family to see any, I send them to them directly.
Even with privacy settings, you can never be sure that no one else can see them. And in my case, even with (what I assumed was) pretty tight settings, my MIL would take my photos and post them on her Facebook. And then my FIL (who I actually had blocked) would get them from her FB and post them to his, with my kids names! I had him blocked because he would not be careful about who he friended, and would massively overshare. When I realized what was happening, I felt extremely violated.
I wonder why parents with good intentions don't just record their kids as they please and then just don't post it. Maybe when the kid turns 18 they can decide what gets uploaded and what doesn't and then at that point deal with the money situation 🤷♀️ that way the parents have that digital timeline to look back on and reminisce and the child (now adult) consents to what could be shown
My mom wasn't quite as intense, but me and my sis always asked her to not post our pics in Facebook and she still did most of the time. They often just don't get it...
Thank you so much for sharing part of your story. I think stories like yours are such a valuable insight into how this should play out. I hope you've found some healing
Let’s not forget, Shari has aunts that are family vloggers as well. She is not just speaking out against Ruby, she is speaking out against her cousins’ parents and that is incredibly brave of her. I hope Shari gets everything she wants, needs and deserves after everything she has been through. ❤
Kevin Franke better not get off scott free, he may have not directly abused his kids, but his neglecting his kids had definitely impacted the whole family in a highly damaging way smh.
Of course he abused them. It’s in the videos. They were a team.
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It looks like he is going to, sadly. The LDS actually cares about the men.
He watched it happen. He was there and agreed with the punishments these kids got. He might not have been there for the Jodi incident but he is just as bad. I mean, what dad doesn't see or know what's going on with your kids for over a year? There really is no excuse for that in my opinion
I don’t believe for a second that he didn’t know or that he didn’t participate. He shouldn’t get to make everyone else take the fall while he roams free.
As a disabled person, I’ve found that disability family content most of the time just infantilizes people especially those with Down syndrome, cerebral palsy and Autism (which I have). Autism moms as we call them, can sometimes make it their whole personality and can give way to a Gypsy Rose situation.
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I came to the comments specifically looking for someone speaking up about this. I'm AuDHD and I honestly find it difficult to interact with Autism moms. They tend to be SO disrespectful to us as Autistic adults and abusive to the Autistic community as a whole... including their kids in the way they portray and speak about them online. It's infuriating, especially when they praise harmful organizations like Autism Speaks and push the puzzle piece on us despite our speaking up about why we find it harmful and reject it as a representative symbol!
Also autistic here and THISSSS
@@NursissisticOfficialI've never seen a disabled child channel that was exploiting the children.
Notice she didn't "my mom." She said "Ruby."
Because Ruby was her employer, not her mother.
Ruby lost any right to being called a mother years ago
Ruby is lucky she didn’t call her ‘the criminal in question’ .
I've noticed based off her social media she only refers to ruby as Ruby or my Mother never mom… which she lost the right to being “mom”
My best friend usually refers to her awful mom as “my egg doner”
My oldest daughter (33) had her 1st child in February. She requested, upon finding she was pregnant, not to share pictures of her child online with my Facebook friends or on my blog. I agreed without a qualm. It was not unfair for her to make that request. Since I am in NC and she is in AZ, she shares loads of pics and videos via texting. They are on my computer and while I may show a friend a pic on my phone face-to-face, the child has never been posted by me anywhere.
You're a good mom. A lot of parents wouldn't respect their child's wishes about their grandbaby. I'm sure your daughter has a great amount of love and respect for you
W grandma. You are setting a good example for your friends and moms of the future
Shari is a great voice for children who are being exploited online. Her speech was empowering and hope her voice reaches even further down the road for changes to come. We need all of the states to put more laws in place to protect kids online
What an incredible young lady to bring this all to light even if this has caused her humiliation, she still fights for the rights of other children! ✌🏻🙏🏼❤️
I was not a fan of Honey Booboo, but the mother stole the money for drugs, and the star of the show got crap!
I have a lot of respect for Shari, yes, she’s a very important person and making a difference
I hope her aunt's have seen her stance! Cuz they are also family vloggers
The law has not caught up to the internet yet sadly
Food isn't a privilege it's necessary for survival. To use it as a punishment/control is disgusting
I believe she didn't intend to word it in this way. She might have been highlighting the fact that there's a lack of access to it in other countries, so to use it as a punishment or control is wrong. You're absolutely right!
She definitely didn't mean it should be a privilege, but right now it is unfortunately. It should be a given, it should be shared by all. No child deserves to starve, no parent deserves to watch their children starve, no person deserves to starve. No one deserves to starve or live in a food desert. She meant well in what she said, Swoop is absolutely so kind.
I worked as a manager of a middle school kitchen and the amount of times I was supposed to THROW AWAY good food while there were a bunch of kids who couldn't afford to eat was astounding. Well fuck that, I fed ever damn kid whether they could pay or not. To be a child with hunger pains surrounded by kids eating great food... It's just cruel. 2 of those angels didn't even eat over the weekends. So every Friday we hooked them up, emptied their backpacks in my office and filled both bags with milk, sandwiches, cereals their younger siblings would like, vegetables, cookies, juices, whatever they wanted. None of us ever got caught but if we had we would've been fired and prosecuted by USDA because it's their property technically. Miss those kiddos. No child deserves to be hungry.
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@Rainy-In-The-Desert no. Food is not a privilege, it's needed to live. I know you guys are trying to defend her wording, but you all are wrong as well. I believe Swoop thought the word was appropriate, why I don't know.
@@Rainy-In-The-Desert middle school cafeteria manager? Sure. Anyway,at any school,of you don't pack or pay for lunch,as a parent and former child,they'll give you a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, milk,etc. Let's not forget FREE LUNCH,is real,even in high school.
Ruby as she sits in jail right now: "Why don't my kids talk to me anymore?? 🥺" 🙄
She finna join an estranged parents support group 🤣
She doesn't give a damn about them. That woman quite possibly is the devil
@@tianag8513 maybe even _Diane's_ group... ugh😒
@@tianag8513 and play the victim there, too! 😭
@@maryannetesoro8848 sounds about right 💀
I've heard that the LDS is part of CPS in Utah so I imagine that it's hard to have any kind of accountability.
I don't know if the church itself has any involvement with CPS, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are a lot of Mormons running the agency. Having been raised Mormon and with several niblings also being raised in it, I can confidently say that I wouldn't want 99% of people who believe in that faith to have any part in deciding who is and isn't taking proper care of their children.
It's not by chance that many Tax avoiding and religious bodies have so many people in prominent governmental and regulatory positions. It's by design. Like any mafia, the best way to avoid accountability, control threaten and scapegoat is by taking over the regulatory bodies and making them work for you.
They're part of every government organization throughout the entire state, as is the xtian church as a whole in every other state but more higher degree in the south and midwest. It's permeates the courts, CPS, clinics, public schools, etc, and causes a LOT of issues.
Cult behaviour 😬
its not involved with cps here officially, but it is heavily influenced by their practices.
most ppl run to their church than thestate here so they can keep is silent.
I think if religious places don't wish to be associated with grooming and silencing victims, they should maybe start being against it
I like maybe three moms in this state- and its due to them being fully rounded adults that understand this crap isn't right to their kid, caught or not...
Utah children services is a literal joke. It is THE culture to treat women and children as possessions. The polygamist compound in the U.S. isn’t far from St George/Ivins Utah (Arizona border/Colorado City) where child abuse is rampant.
I know what I’m talking about. I’m ex-LDS who lived nearby in Cedar City.
Good job, SWOOP!
It’s a different world that I’m learning about. I wish I could pick your brain or you could just tell me about the LDS/mormon Utah culture. It’s fascinating, heartbreaking and super disturbing.
I’ve been nothing a theme in our country: different communities who thrive on punishment culture. They seem to get excited, salivating when it’s their time to punish, when they think someone has wronged, and they package it as tradition or hierarchy, but it’s a giddiness to inflict some kind of hurt upon others.
Anyway, thank you for sharing. I bet you have some stories from your days in Utah, and I’m glad you’re free. 💙
@@noodlepoodlegirl Mormonism is a cult, plain and simple.
@@noodlepoodlegirlI see that giddiness for punishment in progressive circles too, primarily in people who are exvangelical or other high control groups. Like they ditched one dogma for another. I really wish people would see the patterns more.
@@noodlepoodlegirlIt’s legitimate sadism rationalized as justice. In other words, barbarity.
@Heydodoakskdkdjf I've noticed that too! There are so many younger Millennials and Gen Zers who superficially look like they carry progressive beliefs, but when you look closer, it's like they only changed superficially and not deep down. They still appeal to authority, think in terms of black and white, proselytize, struggle with nuance/ambiguity and the unknown, socially ostracize and eviscerate people who don't conform to the group's ideas, try to force people into roles and boxes, and insist on an us versus them mentality (a zero-sum mentality). It makes me realize that these people... while they might've stopped with the "homosexuality is a sin" sort of talk, they really haven't deconstructed in any other sort of way. To continue with that example, they just moved from "being gay is a sin" to "being a homophobe is a sin", in terms of evolution.
For 7 years, I worked a job where I was on call 24 hours a day, and it was exhausting and extremely, extremely stressful. I cannot imagine putting that level of pressure on a child. I feel so deeply for these children, and I’m so, so proud of this incredible young woman for coming forward and standing up for children like her. I’m so glad she’s brought so much of this industry to light.
Personally I've always preferred the way "Maybe even us" flows better. Something about that extra syllable is *chef's kiss* to my brain. Whatever you decide to do, it is your channel and ultimately, the rest of us are along for the ride. Thank you for another dip into the suspool!
I was gonna say the same thing “maybe even us” is just so much better
It flows better for sure, but I also think that “Or is it us?” gives off a more a paranoid, gaslighty, ‘can I even trust myself?’ vibe whereas “Maybe even us.” implies having critical thinking and being aware of our own biases and those of others. It feels more like “have a healthy dose of skepticism, the openness to new information and the willingness to change your opinions accordingly, don’t just blindly believe what you hear or get conspiratorial to rationalize those beliefs.”
"maybe even us" sounds better to me because it flows well and it also doesn't exclude the topic discussion.
I agree!!
When my sister had her little lad, she was insistent that his face never be posted online. I never understood at first, but the more I see about Family Vlogging and how children are impacted once they’re grown up, the more I get it now. My heart goes out to these poor kids.
My daughter asked us not to post our granddaughter to much on Facebook, but its not only for her mental well-being later on but also due dad’s job. I mostly ask if i can share our granddaughter with our flyball team members but that’s a private account.
As someone who’s been forced to suffer under Utah’s troubled teen industry, it just seems like the state thrives off of children. Breaking, abusing, and pretending to care for them.
Utah is effectively a theocracy under the LDS. And they are ONLY about men, so it’s not surprising. I hope you are out of there.
I’m so sorry you had to endure that. It’s awful. I hope you’ve found your own peace, Justice, and healing
Its church ran. Of course it runs off of children.
@ I’ll get justice when the places I had to go get shut down, and the people who worked there have it as a permanent scar on their record.
Other than that, I’ve moved on. My family is supportive and regrets sending me there (the vast majority of facilities lie about how ethical they are, and limit any and all communication. So they thought they were sending me to a place that was better than what it was.)
I'm very anti family vlogs now. I used to post my nieces, we would do fantasy/fairies/fashion photoshoots with candid videos. one of the videos blew up and got 40k views and I was offered to monetize my channel. while I was thinking about it, I was notified by a comment that the reason that video got so many views was because it was saved on a pedo playlist. I privated all the videos with my nieces and didn't look back. I only post my kids to my private profiles for distant family and my kids are never shown publicly. just don't do it.
TH-cam is very much responsible for promoting this type of content. It's disgusting and a great shame that nobody will be held accountable.
Absolutely!! I have even see YT comment on very popular family vlogger channels. It’s INSANE!!
Wanted to mention, it’s the legit YT channel, not a fake. It’s awful. So many children are being exploited.
We need legislation that protects kids. We can’t trust corporations to do the right thing, they won’t.
We need laws to be made that force companies to comply, punishable even at their financial detriment.
It's sad that the TH-camrs themselves to say something. Also, the fact that the audience of the channels sometimes adds to it. An arts and crafts channel I watch, Moriah Elizabeth, has had to say multiple times to her audience that she does not want her two daughters and their names to be on the internet, and to stop asking. But they don't care.
@@cassidythecatI have seen that too. It's so sad that people don't understand why someone may want to "remain private" while still being a public figure.
@@noodlepoodlegirl Illinois has been one of few states attempting to protect kids online.
I am a mother of four kids, three over 19, and my youngest is 12. I asked my youngest about starting a family vlog, and she said, "Hell no, I don't want people watching me. I don't want pedos staring at me." She said enough, and I never brought it up again.
The fact that she has to say she's not there to "provide the solution" is exceptionally depressing to me. She's talking TO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE. SHE is not the person who SHOULD have to provide a solution anyway! THEY'RE. IN. CHARGE. They're the ones who should be told what the problems are and THEY find the solution. THEY search for experts to look into the problem that's been highlighted to them so THEY can find the solution. How the hell is a singular person without any power supposed to rock up with a folder of the perfect solution? That's not her job! That's theirs! And shame on them that it's taken this long to even bother at least faking caring about hearing about the problem, let alone looking for a solution.
You are right but the truth of how the USA functions- the burden is on the slave with less power and the ones with power get to do what they want no matter how much it hurts. Until the roots of slavery are destroyed these evolutions of slavery will continue- Survivor of modern day slavery.
The concept of forever is wild. My dad tried to explain it to me when I was little, he said “imagine the smallest bird you’ve ever seen - it flies around the entire world and takes one bite out of the earth per flight around the world. By the time he finishes eating the whole world, he isn’t even close to “forever”.
My mom tried explaining it to me with the "grains of sand, drops of water in the ocean" metaphor I've seen a lot, but the thing that made it stick was actually when I learned of dinosaur fossils!
They were here a reeeeeeeeeallly long time ago, and they're still being discovered. What's going to find our bones someday?
Personally I like “maybe even us”
I second that motion
i third. “Is it us” sounds odd to me
Yes!! 💯💯💯
I concur
Agreed
i’m glad you covered this because ever since the uproar of Ruby’s initial arrest, i haven’t seen it talked about at all. i didn’t even know Shari had spoken. it’s important to highlight the voices of victims, always.
We need to uplift Sherri, and turn the microscope on Sam for his turn in court.
Every video makes it clear that "they are a 'good' little LDS family" meaning the father is 'head of the house', disciplinarian, and decision maker.
Not a fcking CHANCE that he gets to run away from everything he did.
how dare the algorithm hide this from me for 24 whole seconds 😤 i’ll forgive them this time. thank you for all you do swoop!
It hid it from me for 5 minutes! 😢😢
31 whole minutes!
37 minutes!
56 minutes
3 HOURS!! Unacceptable 😤 💗
Jesus if you TH-cam won’t let you say half the words in this piece they can’t crack down a little bit harder on family vloggers. What an impressive articulate young lady. Great speech. Hope it’s heard
Didn't think there would be an update on Ruby Franke at all! Thanks SWOOP!
RIGHT!?! I’ve been trying to keep up with her case, but so many people have moved on, and I am a bit too dumby dumb dumb to read the actually released court jargon! Thank you Swoop!!! For helping us dummies keep up with this case!
The fact that food can even be seen as a priviledge and not a right is so saddening. All people should have the RIGHT to nutritious meals it shouldnt be a priviledge
She meant that is a source of privilege, ie something we have easier than many other places that we often overlook.
@ i know what SHE meant i was talking about society as a whole because of the capitalistic society food isnt a right anymore
I don’t know what it’s going to take to ban family blogging. I don’t even have social media and I could list 15 horrific situations that have happened because of it. Since we know these parents are going to choose money over the safety and privacy of their children, It’s time for the government to step in! I’m getting my masters to be a mental health counselor and last semester, I wrote one of my final papers on the dangers & long-term psychological/traumatic effects… It has to stop.
Family Vlogging is big business... for the family, the state, TH-cam... it's a snowball rolling downhill and is only getting bigger, Rubys is just the worst, but she's also the 1st... sadly, she will be outdone, and some poor child will lose their life over family vlogging eventually
You do have social media... TH-cam is social media lol.
Ruby Franke is not the First. “Fantastic Adventures,” “DaddyO’5,” and let’s not forget reality TV like the Duggars. Ruby can be credited with shining on a spotlight on these problems. Now we have the Nurse Hannah issue. At the very least, this subject should be closely examined. Former child influencers have the benefit of hindsight and lived experiences. We definitely need to listen to them. But I agree, Ruby will not be the last.
Australia recently banned children under 16 to have a social media account, but-I’m not sure if family members are permitted to post their children on social media. I think it’s a start, but I wonder how they’d enforce it?
Do you think that would help?
You’re right- we need legislation to hold greedy companies and families accountable, they’re not going to do it themselves.
Hope our happens soon.
I fear many right wing politicians aren’t interested in protecting children/child labor laws, and would in fact rather profit from them, so we’ll see..
I'm from Utah and still live in Utah. There is literally no separation between church and state in every facet it functions! It makes not being LDS a pain in the ass. Especially when the church is complete bull and a cult!
Yep and that's what's trying to be implemented in the federal government. That's what the infamous project 2025 is and many southern states have now passed laws forcing public schools to implement xtian theocracy to the students and teach creationism BS to all students no matter what.
Parents think they own their children, when what they actually own is the responsibility to care for and raise their children, and that can and should be taken away when it can be proven that they are abusing their ownership.
Very well put
As someone who has worked in policy making, 15% being set aside in a trust is small but having policy on the books is a really hard first step. In the future this can be increased, getting policy passed is much more helpful than having the perfect policy!
I NEED to see Swoop cover the Nurse Hannah situation.
One hundo percent!! That situation is nutty
Yes!
I don’t know what this is. I’ll find out if swoop covers it.
@@sarahwatson3192Another questionable Utah mommy vlogger. Basically Ruby 2.0.
YES NURSE HANNAH BELONGS IN THE SUSPOOL
She didn’t have to do this. She probably didn’t really want to do this. Who would? Thrust into the limelight, first by her parents filming her, then due to her mother’s arrest and her family’s trauma, I wouldn’t blame her for trying to slip into the shadows. But she realized she had a chance to speak up on behalf of others, and she did.
I really respect her courage.
I think Pleasant Peasant Media/Momma Cusses/Gwenna does a beautiful job of sharing things about her family in a way that may be helpful for others, and opens up conversation. With her younger kids she doesn't show them on camera and reenacts situations playing the roles of her children instead of putting them on camera. Her older daughter sometimes makes appearances but she is old enough to consent and it always seems like stuff she wants to be included in, I don't think I've ever seen her in anything embarrassing.
@@kadencev I love watching her videos.
Love Gwenna!!! She makes me laugh so much! 😂❤
Yes! And she doesn’t use their names, so the stories can’t be traced back to them. She calls them “the littles” or the “middle” to preserve their anonymity 🤍
Gwenna's fantastic!
I would call her a parenting influencer, she protects her kids privacy and shares evidence based parenting advice.
Family vlogging makes their kids the focus for profit.
Gwenna makes HER mistakes and failures as a parent the focus, yes for profit, but also to help younger parents.
Theres a place for parents sharing advice, there is no place for family vloggers.
15% is a TIP!!! Not a salary.
Food is not a privilege it’s a necessity
A RIGHT 💜
Just because not everyone has it doesn’t make it less of a right. It just makes it awful that not everyone’s rights are being given.
@@karadawnruzic9257 Imagine if we spent all the money that are spent on political campaigns and we used it for food for people!
It shouldn’t be a privilege, BUT considering the fact that 18% of all children in the US experience food insecurity every year (and that’s a growing number btw) unfortunately the fact is that it IS a privilege. It absolutely shouldn’t be, but it certainly is.
@@AshleyFromTX Well....if you live in USA it's a privilege. In most other countries there are human rights laws where "the right to food" is a LAW. ...and people still say that the US is a first world country. LOL!
I think Gwen, Mommacusses, does it very well. She has two toddlers who are not filmed at all, but her oldest daughter is allowed on camera if she wants to, and she has conversations about how the internet is forever and her daughters digital footprint.
Shari articulates herself flawlessly. Her words were impactful.
What happened to child labor laws? I was told I wasn't allowed to work when I was a child because of child labor laws. I was seven years old when I wanted to start my business for selling my crochet and paintings but I was told I was too young to work.
Child labor laws weren't made for family business. And even though a lot of it had been adapted and amended, the concept of vlogging is still extremely new. We're talking about one generation, were still in the process of defining things. NOW we have proof how harmful vlogging content is because NOW the victims are old enough and articulate enough to speak up. So NOW policy makers can move their tails and actually address the issue
All child and animal content must be demonetized to prevent cruelty.
Banned - children can not consent. It's that easy. No vlogging, no toy review, non of it - you can talk about diseases and disabilities WITHOUT showing your kids or naming them
The thing that kind of impacted me the most in this whole CA Situation was the fact, that I know how this turns out when no one stops it. I have seen enough True Crime that i have seen similar cases. If he didnt escape, at least one of them would have died. The crazy control about food and exercise is textbook.
My personal belief is that children should NOT be "influencers"! There are waaaaay too many creeps out there and I have never posted any picture of my child to the internet, let alone a vlog!
Stolen Childhoods. This is so predatory, I cant imagine the damage growing up with a camera shoved in your face. Good for you Shari. This issue needs more light shined on it, good work Swoop.
I am so proud and impressed with her bravery! I hope the conversation continues.
Definitely "maybe even us" 😊
love you swoop💫❤️
Normally I make some fun comment or snarky remark. This is just so heavy. Thanks for bringing this topic up and letting her words speak.
Nope…. NO family vloggers!!! Children cannot consent!!! Thank you Swoop!! You are awesome!
A very moving, articulate and honest speech delivered by a young woman who has suffered as a victim of family vlogging, but wants to lead the charge against these abusers and be the voice for the victims of it. I hope that authorities heed her voice and act by framing laws that protect children in this arena. I hope that Sheri and her siblings are finally on the road to healing and are hopefully thriving. Both Franke parents, Ruby and Kevin, disgust me to say the least. Thank you Swoop for shining a light on this issue and for sharing Sheri’s speech. She is such an amazing young woman.
I don’t have kids. I won’t have kids. I LOVE the kids I’m ’auntie’ to, I’m so blessed I get to hang out with my friends kiddos. I would walk through fire for these babies.
I also recently looked at baby photos of me from the 90’s, and looking at those photos brought back great memories I got to share with my mom.
My friends with kids *might* share the ‘official’ pictures of their children - like the school photo or something, but the rest of the time, if they share a cute photo, the kids faces are blurred or emoji’d out. Privately, and because we live around the globe, I get sent pics, but we all agree we NEVER share the kids pics publicly. EVER.
I knew a couple who are very into cosplay, and included their kid in their hobby. Sometimes they include their kid in photos and clips, which are mostly meet-and-greets with character actors, or huge group photos at conventions. The kid is rarely the focus of the video clips; the focus was more on the costumes, events, and the adult character actors' reactions.
The kid mostly "went along with whatever" when they were younger, but when they got older, their parents set a rule where were all the kid has to say is "no" and the camera is gone, and any recorded or posted content is gone, no questions asked- even old photos and clips are removed if the kid wants them gone.
I honestly and genuinely believe if that kid asked for it, the whole account would be wiped clean to the best of the parents' abilities.
Obviously it's not a perfect situation, but giving the kid the control and the right to decide is something I respect a lot.
In the words of Ringo Starr, "I love kids; I used to be one." You don't have to be a parent to care about the safety of children.
When I went trick-or-treating with my bros kids, I asked before taking pics, made assurances that they wouldn't be posted anywhere, and even asked permission before showing my coworkers. Even if my bro and SIL posted pics (they usually don't), it's not getting posted by me. My nieces and nephews can't consent to their likeness being online.
Not to a Franke degree, but good things, fun experiences/gifts, were absolutely transactional in my house growing up. It absolutely messed with my relationship with joy, which I learned to suppress for years.
Recently diagnosed with metastatic C word. I’ve decided to face it with defiant joy. Medical bills are high, and we definitely aren’t headed to Disneyland, but I find simple ways to bring the joy in every day. It’s so important to me that my kids get that for free, from love, and often. I’m grateful to this community, and to Swoop, for bringing joy into my life. ♥️♥️♥️
15:20 “There is no such thing as a moral or ethical family vlogger.” Goodness sweetheart, I’ve never heard a more true statement “straight from the horses mouth”. You deserve ALL the praise, as well as your siblings. Such strong young people, my heart goes out to each one of y’all🥹🫶🏼
There’s no ethical way to publicly share images or videos of your children. I don’t even. Believe it’s safe or ethical to do so on a private profile.
This is absolutely insane, 10-15% should be considered indentured servitude . There are child labor laws in Hollywood, so why haven't they crossed over for vlogging? It is the same thing. The children who are the entire company get paid scraps. 😢😢😢😢
I may be misunderstanding what I've been reading about the law, but it's 10-15% has to be put into a savings account for when they turn 18, but the total compensation is supposed to be greater than that. However, only 10-15% must go to savings, while additional compensation can go directly to the child (which still problematic if you ask me.) I just wanted to clarify that this isn't what is expected to be fair compensation, just this is the portion that has to go to their future selves so they have something to start their adult lives.
As soon as there is money involved, it's not ethical.
I'm neurodivergent, and I love repetition. I often say "the thing" along with my favorite youtubers that they say in every video. So I liked "maybe even us" in your intro, and didn't get used to you saying the other one when you changed it. My reaction here when you said "maybe even us" made me go, "Yay, you said it RIGHT." lol. SO all that said, you can say either one you want, and I promise I won't be mad, but that's my insight. I was one of the fans who was sad when Rhett and Link tried to stop saying "Let's talk about that" in their intro on Good Mythical Morning.
SAME I keep saying "maybe even us" and then get upset at myself that it's the wrong one v.v
😂
“Maybe even us, come on in the waters fine.” Just makes the neuro spicy in my brain happy. It just feels better. Like smaller forks and smaller spoons. It’s just right you know.
Me too 😂 So glad I’m not the only one
Same, plus it flows better. "Is it us" is too jabby (1, 1, 1 vs 2, 2, 1)
I COULD see a middle ground of "or maybe it's us" but it NEEDS at least one 2-syllable word
We ask our son to share his photos and stories on Facebook, even with my Facebook being solely family and friends (about 80) and completely set to private. Children are whole ass people and deserve to be treated as such.
Unfortunately I'm afraid of the world, of people & there are way too many "creeper's" out there & I would be terrified to put my children out there like that. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
WOW! Her statement is Intelligent and right-on!
Impressive indeed!
Great coverage, Swoop! Thanks.
Very powerful speech from Shari. She is being a voice for all the children being exploited around the world. I truly believe in time she will make a huge impact and things will change. She’s an amazing, intelligent, strong woman. I hope that she is healing and doing well.
I used to post my kids baby pics on FB to share with family. When I had to mental click that strangers were seeing my children (while not in inappropriate situations, still babies) I quit.
Today my husband streams and we take care to keep them out of the streams/videos. Their voices float in, but we want our kids away from that kind of potential attention.
It's still interesting to me that Jackie Coogan was Uncle Fester in the Addams Family. His life experiences were so important for future generations of child actors.
Wow. The captions on your videos are amazingly done. It helps to read along when my brain gets tired. These captions were perfect from what I saw. Just wanted you and your team know that it was noticed and appreciated.
“Maybe even us” sounds better😍
The kids aren’t even getting 15% of the entire profit. They’re getting 15% of what they “legally earned.” Also, I’m pretty sure even California’s laws have enough loopholes to avoid paying kids.
I have been waiting for this video. I’m so interested in what she has to say. Social media twisted so much about the story. It’ll be good to hear from someone who was actually there.
So, I’m not a child actor but I can relate to the whole parent stealing your money thing. My mother passed when I was 9. My dad remarried a couple of years later to a woman that makes Cinderellas stepmother seem like an angel. Since my mom had passed I was supposed to inherit our house since it was her grandparents home and was given to her. She also had a small life insurance policy that she left for my dad and I. Also, since she passed I was now entitled to her social security payments till I was 18 and graduated high school.
The $600 monthly social security was supposedly taken and used for our bills, but my dad worked full time and my step mom worked under the table jobs. Why was I paying for our bills? Isn’t that my father and his wife’s responsibility. If my dad wasn’t able to work or something then I’d understand, but that was not the case. My dad and stepmom took my college fund, my dad sold our home and used all the money from the sale. I look back and I realize how I was taken advantage of, because the day I graduated high school they were ready for me to get out. I was just a paycheck to them, and my poor mother-I pray she does not know what I’ve been through since she passed because it would destroy her literal soul.
To parents, your child owes you nothing. You chose to bring a child into the world, you chose to keep the child and raise them. That child had no say so in being born, they didn’t ask to be here. They are here for your enjoyment/pleasure or whatever, and you are the one who owes your child by giving them love, safety, and meeting their basic needs.
Having this be unregulated will lead to people specifically having children to exploit for views then abandoning them at 18 and keeping the money. Not implementing regulation means the government is OK with that. I do not understand why the child worker (eg child actor) laws not automatically apply here.
Right?! With how chaotic life is about to be the next 4-10 years... Ughh that's chilling, there absolutely will be children born simply to make content with 🤬😭😫
Swoop, you are so gracious with your time and energy and attention. Thank you for expending all of that for such admirable causes. I am so proud of Miss Franke (the Younger…obviously) too! What a woman!
i think “maybe even us” rolls off better !
Shari did amazing🩵 that speech was insanely well written. Thank you for covering this Swoop. Always appreciate a new dip into the suspool! Also I feel “Maybe even us” has the best ring to it 😊
my husband doesn't follow true crime like i do and he was every bit as pissed when i told him about Ruby Franke. no child deserves what those kids went through and i hope they're healing from this now that she is incarcerated
She is such a small story in that book.😢😢
I hope this also kicks off a conversation about CA. I see far too many videos and posts online about “my kid didn’t like dinner so now they’re not allowed to eat until breakfast / until they finish dinner”. That’s called CA! It’s not a punishment to withhold food, it’s CA! And even if it’s done in a non-abusive way, it’s going to cause a seriously unhealthy relationship with food and mealtimes (speaking from experience)
Same.
There's this thing in dogs called "food aggression", and it's caused by them having food denied while they're puppies (either intentionally or just by the situation they're in, you see it in strays a lot). Where it isn't documented as well is in humans. My siblings and I all have what in dogs would be labeled as food aggression, we get irrationally angry if someone even jokes about taking our food.
Why? Because we grew up with food insecurity, and food was used as a punishment. Now we all have huge issues around food.
“Like Mr Ballen, but cuter” 😂😂😂
Omg, he was such a piece of cake when he was a SEAL! Very hot!
i love this gal and her videos so much but it is so shocking to me when ppl on youtube are reporting serious ass content that will affect the lives of the children involved for their entire lifetimes, but they cut in to show an ad about BEARD RAZORS 😭 we as a society are so out of touch i just cannot believe it anymore.
the more i watch this video, the more i hate the fact that ads were involved 😂 it really seems like no one actually cares about this family unless they’re getting a check. just really sad to me imo. some videos do not warrant adsense, especially when you get enough views already.
@@ashxx8659 I thought so too. :( I also hate how we're talkig about how brave and well-spoken Shari is, and then proceed to interrupt her every 5 seconds. If she's so well-spoken, let the woman speak. I love Swoop but I almost had to turn this one off
I wish those kids nothing but peace. Good for Shari for speaking out on this terrible industry.
Good on you Shari... FAMILY VLOGGING should be banned on ALL platforms.
Saying they should be grateful is like telling someone they should be grateful that their job gives them a paycheck.
I’m not grateful when I get my rightfully earned money, because its not it’s not given to me without expectations.
As a parent i cant understand anyone who wants thousands of strangers looking at their child. Even innocent or wholesome moments shared to tiktok. Why do you want strangers to be a part of that? I think of it like what if that many strangers were in the room at the time watching. Would that be ok or would it be weird?
Don't take child rearing advice from family vloggers... anyone willing to exploit their child for $$$ isn't someone who should be telling anyone how to raise their children and definitely not someone who's advice you should listen to.
Right! Someone who needs external validation in that magnitude only has their interests at heart, not their children.
1000%.
I appreciate how seriously you handle this, and with a focus on the victims. A lot of channels dramatize these kinds of stories and it takes away from the seriousness of the topic. My first time watching one of your videos and I'm loving your personality and calm voice!
I keep getting distracted by Swoops one ring picking up the green screen and showing the ocean 😂
Swoop 💜 You girl, are an inspiration! I have a birthday on Saturday. I have had, our favorite, fibromyalsia for over 35 years. My degree is a BS in experimental Psychology. Since that science spent 25 years in Behavior Modification I am just now, learning to deal with life after a narcissistic mother and being SA'd for years. At least I am still LEARNING!
I can't imagine what Sheri even went through but I am so proud of her and you!💜
I've been following this story since 2021, seeing these kids finally get justice and be able to speak the truth of what happened is heartbreaking, but so so important. It's the first of many stories that may one day surface about this industry
When my kid was a baby and toddler, I posted pics and told stories about them on a private Instagram account simply to make it easy to share pics with a large family/friend group, but I never wanted the public to watch them grow up. When they were about 5, they said they didn’t want me to do it anymore. So I stopped. Now unless they specifically say they want me to, I don’t post pics anymore. I don’t think I've posted one in years at this point. They didn’t even want me to take pics least Xmas, so I didn’t take any.
Kids are people with their own opinions and lives, not their parents' property. If your kid doesn’t consent to their lives on a screen, then *don’t post it*. If you want kids to understand consent, then don't break theirs even with something you might see as trivial.
Even in TV, movies and SM it makes me cringe. There are TOO many bad people out there in the dark web. If I take pictures of my kid, I make DAMN sure she is fully clothed. If she isn't I WILL. NOT. post any photos of her.
The Internet is forever and I wish people would realize that.
I'm almost to the point where I'm like .... Yeah, I shouldn't post my kid because everybody is bad.
Family vlogging is unforgivable. There are predators on the internet and how any loving parent can take a chance that posting their children on the internet will expose them to dangerous individuals is beyond me! No child should have their innocence and privacy stolen.
I feel for these children. I hope the children are able to heal from this nightmare and find wonderful lives in the world. That so called mother can find the most mustiest underside of the jail to call home. I love that for her.
I'm trying to get some sneaky holiday pressies done. It's been challenging. Thank you for being a voice of reason Swoop. Make sure you take care of yourself and your amazing team.
53:33 everything you have just said about this year with the stairs, absolutely moves me and relates to how I have also been feeling. Thank you! ❤
Sorry, me again. My kids actually told me I was putting to much in their lunches. Like to much meat on their sandwiches and too many extras. Then I explained why. Sometimes kids just mistakenly forget their lunch and sometimes kids come from homes where they don't have enough.
I wanted my kids to have enough so if they wanted or felt the need to share which I knew they would anyway, they wouldn't be going hungry. When my kids were in grade school a lot of PSA were about the effect being hungry could have on a kids ability to learn. I think my kids were support of because the food never went to waste.
Good show, human 😊 And, exceptional lesson for everyone 🎉😊
I was as a child a member of the LDS church and while I wouldn’t say everyone in that church is bad, I would say the LDS church encourages a lot of bad values.
I was so emotional listening to Shari especially at the end. I've never met her and never watched their chanel yet still as a mother, my heart breaks for her! I hope the internet and her community rally around Shari! Her lived experience is so valuable to insight change!!
You said “or is it us.” The last time I watched. I actually loved it.
“The place where everyone is sus or is it us? “
Classic.
As a longtime fan of Zoella, I genuinely admire her approach to family vlogging. She and Alfie have established clear boundaries regarding what they are comfortable sharing online, which I believe sets a healthy example for others in this space. Alfie takes the lead in editing the videos, ensuring everything aligns with their standards, and Zoe reviews them before they are posted, adding an extra layer of care and consideration.
What stands out to me is that their content isn’t focused entirely on their children. Instead, it offers a broader look at their family life, including moments with Zoe's brother, mother, sister-in-law, and Alfie’s sister, brother-in-law, and parents. The emphasis is on their entire family dynamic rather than making their children the centerpiece of their online identity. Although parenting is an integral part of their lives, their daughters are only a small aspect of the content they choose to share. This balance is what makes their vlogging style feel thoughtful and respectful to me.
I think they have a good balance, if there is one, and they never show bad things about their kids for views. They never over share, and if they never showed their kids again, people would watch. I think that's the difference between them and upfront family vloggers
@@faemuzthen why not just not have their kids in this content?
There are no "good" family vlogs.
15%??? Nah fam. Agents typically make 10% of the talents’ earnings. So if the child is the talent, their percentage needs to be WAAYY higher.
Child labor of laws have a limited number of hours that a minor can work. If these kids are getting paid then they're working. The kids appear to be filming a good part of their day How do these labor laws apply for these family vloggers?
I live in Utah and was sexually abused and exploited by my own mother for over two years. She was caught, convicted, and went to prison. It was the 90s, and I remember so clearly that the judge gave her an extremely small sentence because "every child needs a mother." I wish I was surprised to hear that Ruby's sentence is small.
Things I expected in this video: typical Swoop quality and research mixed with just enough Professor Petty to make it spicy.
Things I didn't expect in this video: Swoop absolutely KILLING IT on a Manscaped ad!
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Children cannot consent, and they should never be used to make money. The solution is to not allow it. I really don't think it needs to be any more complicated than that.
I can only imagine how this must have felt for her daughter