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The Paul Pogba Paradox
The Paul Pogba Paradox
The Paul Pogba Paradox
Wow he's already 30. Time goes by fast.
Yeah that career fairly pissed away, didn't it?
@@manbearpiglett-4110Pogbanus, Mediocrity Mount, Mistake De Ligt, Trentboy and Chilwell are the 5 most overrated players ever.
Each of them even more overrated than Meme Depay
He hasn’t really done anything since winning the WC. I think his spell in MLS gets closer by the day.
@@branx4426 winning the world cup is pretty nice though.
Should have retired earlier if he had a shred of dignity.
The 4 assists in 1 game came when he was coached by Ole. His best and most effective position at United in his 6 years was Left Attacking Midfielder which was used under Ole. He played on the Left Midfield higher up the pitch and not as a winger. He never ran the flanks but went line to line with Bruno for ball progression or received it from Shaw who used to overlap as a wingback and progress the ball like a winger. This is what happens when you rely on Google scores to look at player positions lol.
The stuff he was doing at Juventus was crazy, especially when you factor in his age. It’s sad that United only signed a competent dm after he left, him, Casemiro and Bruno would’ve been crazy
Casemiro with Pogba would've been perfect, just too late
man that just made me sad
imagine the link up
@@VizehNow this just makes me mad at just how stupid Man United are
Either way it would have been short lived due to his inability to stay healthy.
They would have only played 6 games together
I'm a life long United fan, im 38yrs old. Pogba is a bit of a paradox. I dont actually dislike him at all, despite what i am going to say.
His trophy cabinet says he is an elite player. Watching him play week in week out is another thing. He was NEVER the best midfielder in the world because he NEVER shows consistency. He played during a time that Kroos, Modric, Iniesta, Kante played (just to name a few).
Pogba strikes me as almost the poster boy for the modern footballer. Blessed with incredible skills and fame. If football was taken away from him, would it hurt? Or would he be content with the fame and wealth? Jesse Lingard, Memphis Depay, Sancho - these players. Would it be soul destroying to these players if the game was taken away from them but they still had fame and fortune.?
Spot on, it is a generation thing when social media presence counts considerably more than what he or they is actually paid to do! Sad thing look at Saudi league now, attracting people to play in let's face it a English league 4 division, not for the love of football but for the love of money, again a generation thing.
Pogba is pogba's own enemy. Such talent. Could not replicate day in day out, especially social media just ruined his life,not forgetting his agent.
At Juve, he was free. He had Vidal as the hardworking box to box (back then Vidal was one of the best box to box CM in the world) and the genius of Pirlo as company. At United he didn't have anyone even near 2 steps back of that Juve midfield, then got lazy, the joke "Jogba" became a thing and never came back from it.
For France he had the same solid company at Juve with Kante.
The Jogba jokes, I forgot that completely!
Spot on. He was no Messi or Ronaldo, he needed talent around him to shine. A lot of us city fans joke about him with his dabbing and social media exploits and I think we have a point; the true is before he went back to United we wanted him at the Etihad. We will never know but given our better structure, setup and players it may have been a different story.
Don’t forget Marchisio, probably one of the most underrated midfielders of his generation
You are so right. His laziness undid him
@@Bluemoon4415-s5v City fans must be really clueless if they wanted a guy who misses most of his passes.
Not selling Pogba to Real Madrid for 100M was one of the biggest transfer blunders of Man Utd. His form dropped significantly after that failed transfer. The constant change in manager certainly didn't help as well.
Yeah because madrid offered him that much 😂😂😂😂 perez made grave mistakes in his first stint as real madrid president but hes learnt so much that lazy individualistic player like pogba would do no good to his club. Plus madrid had had casemiro, modric, kroos, kovacic already, why would they want pogba? 😂
Pogba is a world cup winner, all that individualistic bullshit is a media narrative @@harukrentz435 .
@@harukrentz435because zidane was a big fan of pogba
never happened. not one bit of Madrid wanted him at our club. He was an individualistic, egoistic midfielder. With our current midfield being strong, I can't see him playing in Madrid's midfield anywhere near. Camavinga and Tchouameni are more versatile.
Its such a shame to have watched his story coming up being the wonder kid with hype all around his name everyone knew Paul Pogba. Its a shame that now everyone knows the footballer with one of the greatest fall offs Paul Pogba.
Such a talent man, should be look back with more respect
@@Vizehexactly man when I was younger Paul Pogba was THE guy its a shame it seems that now people only remember the end not the octopus from juve
Fr
He was a knobhead at united
There's only 1 conclusion - curses are real
Incredibly talented, looks great in compilations but a massive underachiever.
Never seen so many excuses for a failing player, was delighted when he left my club
Very good essay, as always. Couple of points I'd like to add.
1. At United, he was let down by the poor recruitment & quality around him. Jose was trying to plaster & win with scraps so he opted for a more pragmatic approach a lot of the time. First season saw Herrera, Fellaini & Carrick play the 6 role a lot which wasn't convincing considering 2 of those aren't that position. Then one or 2 came in but were either good for a short time or inadequate which then led to Ole coming in & then we saw Pogba play well in the 10 role, getting double digits goals & assist. However, Herrera left & Matic had somehow aged horribly in a short time (post 2018 summer surgery) which saw Pogba play briefly as the 8 in a double pivot with McTominay or Fred (both are NOT 6's) which opted for a defensive approach in the midfield. No recruitment for a Matic replacement even when he was there saw Pogba almost limited & couldn't play to his strengths considering he rarely partnered a player in that deep midfield that could adequately cover & have the defensive discipline Prime Matic or even casemiro now has. After the long injury, there was the brief lockdown period which saw the trio of matic, pogba & Bruno work but matic could not be relied on every game; therefore Pogba found himself limited deeper (bar the "Left sided 10" phase) as no adequate 6 was ever signed till after he left & he found himself alongside the work horses but not outright defensive midfielders in Fred or McTominay. For all his time there, Ole asked but never got.
2. The "LW" thing is incorrect. The role he played was almost as a Left sided 10 (attacking midfielder) for 2/3s of the 2020/21 season which gave him the same positional freedom he had at Juventus (in diamond formations playing beside Pirlo, Marchisio & Vidal, then Khedira, Marchisio & Hernanes) & France (2018 saw him next to Matuidi AND Kante). It allowed for the midfield to have 2 of the more hard working players like McTominay & Fred, or the only 6 at the club, Matic. He had a lot more good performances here than he did, some even might say masterclasses (Leeds, Home, August 2021).
Damn, this is a really excellent synopsis. Definitely sheds a lot of light on the issues he had at United and gives some color to the video.
Good job
So Pogba was made a potential DM by jose
@@JosueKpatcha-fu9yi not necessarily. Jose just tried to make it more compact in that midfield so whilst Pogba was one of the players to go forward he was also given roles defensively which he wasn’t really good at it. Hence other formations added more to do the hard yards he couldn’t. You get 8s who offer more grit, combat and energy in the midfield for more pragmatic systems but he doesn’t possess that off the ball it’s why there were big games or away games we saw mctominay first come through and play next to Matic like Chelsea at home and Sevilla away. Like euro 2021 pogba played with rabiot and Kante and whilst rabiot isn’t a DM he offers more defensively than pogba. It was a way to have the best of pogba griezmann Benzema and Mbappe whilst having a diamond with 2 more forward thinking players behind the strikers
Thank you for adding this mate, great input!
It’s really crazy how United had one of the best young attacking midfielders and played him at defensive midfield season after season
I think dele alli story tells us to be careful about what we say. Pogba was abused and targeted for years. I don’t know his story, so I refrain from judgement about his personal life and his “laziness.” As a United fan even when he was far and away our best player his first couple years he received constant abuse from the media and social media. I’m just happy I got to see such a great player even if it wasn’t sustained, truly amazing and one of my favorite players ever, Paul Labil Pogba
Dele Alli and Pogba are both lazy, inconsistent and overrated.
McTominay is 5 times the player Pogba ever was.
Pogba scores 1 great goal per season if he is lucky, but also a liability almost ever other minute he plays.
@@TheLeechaolan15shut up
Your videos (especially the long documentaries and iceberg videos) are the best football videos on youtube. Cheers for the effort
On a good day, Pogba was probably the best MIDFIELDER to watch in his era.
I liked his confidence on the ball and the fact that his crosses and long shots were from another planet.
Prime (fit) Pogba was literally the best MIDFIELDER.
his passes were stellar
@@Adizero2 yes, definitely!
He truly had everything!
That's like saying I was the best footballer in the world but I was injured! Pointless point! You either be fit and be the best or you don't and pogba didn't. He let himself get injured all the time by not looking after himself. Every footballer will tell you that you get injured because you are not looking after yourself, you go I to challenges late so you get injured, you pull something coz you haven't trained properly
But unfortunately that day came only three games a season and then they overhyped him after every good performance.
When pogba was playing with pirlo, he was literally one of the most talented players in the world. He still has time to turn back it around. I hope he can.
one of the few players who is very tall and physical strong with that impressive technique,but unfortunately all this bad stuff that happened to him,little sorry for him but yea......
What a player he could have been.....
He was the best midfielder in the world, sadly for only short periods
@@Vizeh Sad true,but yes.....
You are amazing football content creator keep going,you are amazing.
Pogba is about to trademark the word "Pogbadox" after seeing this
An incredibly talented young man, who came from poverty, who got drawn in by the glitz and glamour of money and fame. A tale as old as time
Paul Dogpoop
One of the most overrated footballers of all time.
Definitely! His agent is a hero for making him so famous
just realised its crazy everytime when jose mourinho managed a club, a star player with bad attitude gets called out by him then their career when downhill after it
Please list all clubs and targeted player
I wanted him to succeed to badly man, and I still never hated him even at the end. I accept he had to move but at the same time it was criminal we didn’t give him a Casemiro type player to play with. He had too many defensive responsibilities and he wasn’t great at defense. I wake up pretty early in NYC to watch United play and his inconsistencies were frustrating. It’s a shame what happened to him.
I think a vid related to dele alli and footballer mental health would be really insightful
I mentioned it quite heavily late in the video, I don't think doing an entire video on it is fully needed
Fair, I got the comment in as soon as I clicked as it was on my mind
Not even trying to joek about but Pogba, on his day, was the best midfielder I've ever seen
He has all the attributes to be insane and unique
He was shit for united cmon bro
I guess you've never seen Iniesta, Zidane, Kante or any top midfielder over the past 20 years. Its a disservice to players who put in the work and has the trophies to back it up to say Pogba is the best midfielder you've seen. He is barely consistent and has never come close the hype he was associated with. Lets face it, his best season was at Juve, in a stacked team playing in a weak Serie A. He never had to assume the responsibilities a midfielder had with Pirlo behind him, and was found out in United once he was given more responsibility,
@@fuaddanial2029 we've seen them all but POGBA had the sauce and swag on top his pefomance
@@DojoSports1 bro what performance? he was good 1 in every 10 games, would disappear in big moments, never had any real impact on United trying to win the league. Performance is putting record breaking assist numbers like Fabregas, or winning most tackles like Kante. Stop disrespecting real midfielders
Pogba Literally ran the midfield of France National Team, which won the world cup, reached the final of euros.
also Paul Pogba is Muslim and being a frenchman, it invites hate. unfair disrespect. he is a world cup winner. scored in the final of the world cup,
won the europa league,
scored in the final of that too.
This is all lies, he just wasn't a good fit for United
Paul Pogba is one of footballs biggest enigma's... His ability on the ball was unquestionable, his physique made him a formidable force that at times made him unplayable but his natural ability made him be unprofessional at times, and the tic tok dancing fancy haircuts and glitzy lifestyle that he portrayed to the public became his downfall.
Humble...Talented..
Onana 👍
Thanks for the vid. I do not see where you answer the basic footballing question about Pogba. Did he cover back enough to make his forward play worth while to the team? That's the real question about P.B. This is why he fell out with Jose and this is why his French teammates were shouting at him at the World Cup as France left the field. Even though he'd scored a fantastic sole goal; France were still out because he would not cover back when they lost the ball.
Mourinho called Pogba a 'virus' in front of his team-mates, and told him: "You are like a person with a flu with a virus in a closed room - you pass that virus to the others."
The Portuguese added: "You don’t play, you don't respect players and supporters and you kill the mentality of good, honest people around you."
And he said the same to another football prodigy
Pogba is my guy. Favorite player I’ve ever watched. Regardless of ceiling, unreached potential, etc…his best moments can’t be topped.
Thank God! Your Videos are inspirational. And I appreciate your work!
Thank you Jose
Better Than Football Daily, and that Irish guy, I swear! You are a legend with these documentaries .
The analogy of batman and Robin is perfect to describe his situation. He was always a Robin, the perfect wingman but never the leader. United dropped 100mil and for that money he was expected to lead but its not in him. At Juve he was flanked by Vidal, at his prime arguably the best box to box mid in the world but side note..for my money he was pipped to that by Nianggolan for 3-4 seasons, the player United should have signed and would have been the closest thing to Roy Keane seen on a football pitch. So Vidal and then the brain of Pirlo. Allowing Pogba to freelance and do Pogba things without worry about position or responsibility. That was the setup that allowed him to shine and express his incredible technique and confidence came out of that to score nunerous screamers. Let's not also forget the boss player Marchiso who was just as talented as the others but often injured unfortunately. They had a beast lineup and then there was Pereyra filling it who can do a bit of everything. I said at the time he would flop as he was being bought to lead and Juve done United twice. First on the free transfer and then on the 100 million. The player of old is still there, he just needs to find the right project that has midfielders around him to lead. He is what he is at this point. United showed he can't be moulded into something else.
Another thing that doesn’t help is his return to Juventus. When Paul Pogba returned to the Old Lady 12 months ago it looked like a good move for both parties and a fresh start from the player. So far his return to Juventus has been a nightmare. He went back to a club where he enjoyed a lot of success was likable among the fans after a testing stint at Manchester United because he endured an injury plagued period there and periods of inconsistency and at Juventus those problems have worsen for him. From August to June with a World Cup in the middle of the season he’s been available for less than 20% of the games Juventus played during this period and for a player with all that talent it’s a problem when you’ve lacked fitness all season this isn’t every about performance he’s just not fit and it’s caused his overall stock to decline even further. He’s experienced difficulty off the field as well we heard about his brother blackmailing him extortion did he really hire a witchdoctor to cast a spell on Kylian Mbappé and it’s not even that going skiing when you’ve hardly kicked a ball in over 12 months wasn’t the right move and it led to criticism among fans because weeks before this Manuel Neuer broke his leg while going skiing and was ruled out for the season and a player who hasn’t played regular football in months decided it’s a good idea to ski rather than focusing on recovering and getting himself fit again. Also after finally making his second debut with Juventus he was dropped from their squad because he was late to a team meeting and then days later he got injured again. Every time he returns to the side he gets hurt and even when he started a game before the season ended he got injured again and this hasn’t been a last season problem for Paul Pogba when the injuries were occurring at Manchester United. In terms of fitness and form Paul Pogba is no longer at that elite level in football and he’s 30 years old. He should still be in his peak years playing for Manchester City Real Madrid Bayern Munich Liverpool all those elite level clubs . He always wanted a move to Real Madrid and that’s never happening, the reason why those clubs when he was available on a free transfer by Manchester United last summer none of those clubs wanted anything to do with him the reason for that is his level has dropped big time and his second stint at Juventus has been evident of this because he doesn’t even play football nowadays and he’s now linked with a move to the Saudi Pro League. If you’re Juventus you should consider either selling him or terminating his contract because you’re paying him loads of money and he’s on your books with that huge salary and has barely played. The fact that Paul Pogba at 30 years of age is being linked with a move to Saudi Arabia that tells you about the tragic decline he’s experienced over the last 18 months in terms of form and fitness.
I genuinely don't think pogba had the gritt to play in the PL not every player can. He was one of them
I watched both his United debuts sat at the ground, and I remember thinking both times, this guy is head and shoulders above every other player ability wise. But the first time, he was a sub and played in that pocket on the left, and he was brilliant, and the second time, he played as a 6. Even though in that first game back, he was unreal, I worried that he'd be played there all the time, and in the end, that was where he was stuck most of the time. If we'd had a manager that said build the team around him, then we could have gotten the best. It was a waste, and some players need to have security blanket around d them and let them do what they want largely, and I think he is one of those, and then you get the best. I'd love to have seen him under Ten Hag as he is a for the team style manager, but could he still get the best with him in the Eriksen position? Having watched him live a lot, some of the Pogba he could do was beyond anyone else's ability, but we'd never see it two games in a row, and sometimes two halves in a row. Such a shame. He is another player that has a circus with 24 hours a day, and I'm glad that United are finally seeming to step away from players like that.
No offence meant to you but it is ludicrous to still believe the 'build the team around him' nonsense. In simple terms if you bought six of the best eggs in the world, and you got home to find there was only one egg in the box, it wouldn't matter that the taste was good, the fact is you got ripped-off, and that is Pogba in a nutshell at United.
I think that what really happened maybe is that as he grew older he filled out physically in a way that made him slower off the mark and that's why he's been picking up injuries now. The only other player I can think of who was similar height/position was Viera, but Viera was slimmer and more agile. We never heard 'Viera would be good if we built a team around him', because Viera was a genuine all-round talent and leader. And again look at Scholes, I'm not sure there is anything Pogba could do that Scholes couldn't do better and more consitently. You can't ever 'build a team around a player' realistically, because if they get injured you are toast.
Who remembers in fifa when he would score random long shots and dab on me… fun times
The FIFA 17 dab was incredible and painful times man
@@Vizeh ikr bro sometimes he would do it when he is losing 4-1
At his best he was amazing to watch. So much fun. Sad to see how his story is ending.
I only found this channel a month ago and I'm so glad I did I instantly hit the sub button, love these types of documentaries on Football your channel is my favourite now along with HITC sevens 🔥
That is very high praise, thank you so much man!
@@Vizeh No worries you deserve it!
He might have the best worst career if that makes sense, he has the medals, team of the years, big moments and still feels like we only got to see 50%. Hope he recovers from the injuries because the quality he has is hard to lose
50%?
I can name over 300 current midfielders with a much better career.
Pogba scores 1 great goal per season, the rest of his game time he is an utter trash liability
@TheLeechaolan15 ur being emotional, he has 5 team of the years.ballondor team of the year, 3 great int tournaments. 3 European finals. He has the moments, seasons, and medals, but still underachieving despite all his success
@@abduraxmaan450 all those trophies are thanks to Pogba's world class teammates.
You think Pogba could win a world cup without prime Kanté next to him?
You think Pogba can win Serie A without prime Juve?
Xhaka is 4 levels above Pogba, just to give you an idea how overrated Pogba is.
Pogba is the french Dele Alli
@@TheLeechaolan15 what player is winning with bums. all the greats had insane squads to win major trophies. this might be the funiest way to descredit someone😂
@@abduraxmaan450 Pogba is the bum.
Kanté can win trophies with bums, same for KdB.
Souness man marked him from the studio. 😂
Pogba’s problem is the same a lot of great players have had, injuries! Not often spoken about but players like Diaby, Gotze, Anderson and Oxlade Chamberlain could have also been great players but their body has other plans. 😢
Obviously his main issue isn’t being played in his best place
But I think he just got lazy, social media icon, a influencer if anything resulting in injuries, just sad
Bringing him back to mu set the team back a decade.
Its just shame that the young generation that was supposed to be after Messi/Ronaldo era was mainly disappointing, besides Neymar, Bale, KDB, Hazard and maybe Griezmann who probably were the only ones that didnt disappointed that much, guys like Pogba, James Rodriguez, Mario Gotze, Dele Alli, Dybala, Coutinho, De Gea, Alexis Sanchez, Kane, Sterling, Lukaku, Jack Wilshere, Lucas Moura, etc disappointed a little bit more
Hazard was world class maybe the best prem player of 2010s he could achieve more but what he achieved is more than what most predicted at the time
I'd say Hazard performed to a good level but I agree that the next generation wasn't the best but maybe that is to the credit of how great Messi and Ronaldo were
@@Vizeh yea i was wrong actually about the Hazard, he was one of the best players in the world until 2019 when he left for Real, especially in 2019 that was by far his best season, and i agree with you, Ronaldo and Messi set the bar so high that the next like 2,3 generations (including the one with Ney and Pogba) they are probably going to suffer a lot stats wise and popularity wise
@@haydenmachonisse4031yea i was wrong, Hazard didnt disappointed actually except his stint at Real and i agree with you that he is the best prem player in the 2010s decade
Kane? He's currently the 2nd all time premier league goalscorer and England all time goalscorer. How did he disappoint?. He may not have have won a major trophy but to say he's disappointing is delusion
As a United fan, I adore Pogba. I wish he hadn't had all the injury issues, and the coaches could've gotten the best out of him. I miss him every day and wish I could see him play with Bruno and Casemiro.
It was so poor from my club to not recruit a single defensive hard working midfielder during his entire stint.. Imagine if we signed Casemiro whilst Pogba was still here... he would have been far too better... look at him at France with Kante and Rabiot... under Mourinho, he was never destined to be successful with the pragmatic, hardworking defensive football.. he was more of a free bird..
I remember his best phase of form at united was during Ole's caretaker period when we had a consistent midfield of Matic, Herrera and Pogba.. Matic was the defensive lynchpin, Herrera was box to box doing the hard running, and Pogba was the free creator who was allowed to do his thing in the final third.. and he was phenomenal.. but United let Herrera go the next season, and didn't replace him.. then we signed Bruno in January that season, who naturally got the free CAM role that Pogba had before and Pogba himself was designated to the Herrera role.. we all know his work rate off the ball isn't what he's known for.. and as expected, it just went downhill for him since then.. Ole's tactical inability and injuries ruined his united career, still haunts me remembering seeing McTominay and Pogba being played together as the two pivots in a 4-2-3-1... people hate him, but on his day, he was unbeatable.. he just came here at the wrong time..
Imagine Pogba with Casemiro in that time period man
Most of the time he played for France in a two man defensive midfield partnership with Kante
Wouldn't be enough to have Pogba play at his best you need an entire team of defensive minded players who do all his work for him France had Matuidi on the wing FFS and even Griezmann tracks back more than Pogba.
He seemed to lack desire in every match. When he was up for it, he was *up for it*, dragging United to a win at the Etihad against Pep, he was great in their Europa League title run in 2017, individual performances here and there. But he didn't always seem like he was up for every match, and I think it was because he lacked quality around him and he had a series of small, annoying injuries that he was occasionally forced to play through. So he didn't give 100% all the time.
Pogba was UTD's Ozil. They did the right thing to not give the guy a new contract.
Pogba had the ability to be one of the best midfielders of all time. Unfortunately he lacked focus and was too concerned with being a celebrity.
As a United fan not seeing a Bruno Pogba Case midfield will always be one of the biggest "what ifs" imo. But seriously, the impact that Bruno had in the pandemic years was what everyone expected from Pogba in 2016.
not me high af... realizing that Pogba just faded into the shadows #stormzy#pogboom 2016/17/18 were good years smh...
Just how he scored against Switzerland and did a silly dance to then lose
As a United fan it was crystal clear why he wasn't successful there. At Juve he had a Matuidi there and with France he had Kante. He had insulation to roam and create in a advanced role. United failed to truly surround him or insulate him effectively with guys who could control the midfield and allow him to create from that advanced role. Paul was misunderstood a bit I think maybe a bit hard done at times, but also brought some of it to his own doorstep.
Its always other players fault with Pogba 😂
@harukrentz435 no, he brought criticism upon him himself forsure. That is just a fact though he truly fit that team how it was constructed. He is clearly most effective in an advanced role, as opposed to a box to box guy who controls the middle of the field. That just isn't his game man. The times he was allowed to play higher up the pitch in a free role he did well. Injuries and poor performance, and missed games, combined with the way he carries himself brought warranted and at times unwarranted criticism. For me it was just another example of Uniteds owners really just caring more about a players marketability instead of what could truly help the squad.
PP greatest enemy was his own head. He didn't do enough at United and he was carried by Pirlo at Juve and Kante with France. He's not a bad player by any means, he's just not the guy, he is the guy who follows THE MAN.
He was carried by other players according to you so why did managers keep picking him?
By your logic players don’t play a role in teams, you can just play shit players and they shine because they’re getting carried…
Simply put, pirlo and Kante or Vidal can’t do what pogba can do… that’s fact. For some reason man United fans expected pogba to be the AM, DM, CREATOR, controller, pace setter, goal machine and assist machine all in one. Hilarious stuff.
I agree.... Pogba is a player that to get the best out of him needs a father figure manager he trusts and a team that doesn't ask him to play a disciplines role. .. He is a maverick footballer who needs players to do the donkey work for him so he can express create and influence matches. Those are the reasons why i was dumbfounded that United made him the captain due to him being their best player. In contrast Jordan Henderson is nowhere near Pogba in ability but he leads by example cajoles rants inspires his teammates and is the ultimate proffesional on and off the pitch hence why his career has been a glittering one whilst Pogba though I wouldn't say has had a bad career it's one that is underwhelming with the ability he possessed hence why we get videos like this
Special ballers need leighway to express themselves as they are unique and blessed with a natural ability that cannot be taught by coaches. Players like say Cantona Ronaldinho Ronaldo R9 Messi are not given too many duties to carry out and the players that are assembled alongside him have to accommodate them by closing the gaps that these player leave when maurading in attack. It wasn't a case of Pirlo carrying Pogba it was a case of letting Pogba express himself and Pirlo playing a role that allowed Pogba the freedom to do so
A great midfielder doesn’t need players around him. He takes the game by the scruff of the neck and dictates it. Pogba never will be that player. Needs a quality midfield around him. Never has been and never will be world class.
Juve fan here. It’s sad man. He was amazing before he went to Manchester United. He still has it, but I think the injuries and his mindset isn’t where it once was. I was so happy he came back to Juve, but what a terrible return. Hope he can turn things around. He’s 30. So he still has time.
Missed opportunity for 'it's Paul over.'
Pogba to Chicago Fire 🔥?
Pogba is the prime example of if you watched someone for a short period you would think brilliant, but if you closely followed him for a whole game he would infuriate you.
He has been great for France, not to mention at Juve. Ironic how this is only the case for his time at Man Utd, a club that has been ruining talent after talent for years now.
@@calamorta He was great years ago he can't stay fit anymore anyway you just need to let it go.
I believe Pogba would have excelled if he had a manager like Eric Ten Hag. The things that killed him was his injuries (Man Utd is partly to blame), attitude problem and effort levels. Look at Gundogan, he was injury prone but played exceptionally when called upon and City medical team worked wonders on him
More like Peps miracle doctors whom always with him since Barca 😂
Injuries fcking suck. Pogbas story resonates a little bit harder with me because he reminds me of me. I’m nearing 30 too and have had back to back injuries in the last few years which have absolutely changed my game. It’s depressing to the point I feel like I can’t play anymore.
I can only imagine the amount of pressure and stress at a pro level where your livelihood depends on it.
Hopefully his business ventures make up for not being able to play as much.
I love you brother. Wishing you a life of peace, happiness, prosperity and love. Keep living and loving ❤️
He was magic in his days, however, I suspect he is now a wasted potential, like many others.
he is now coming to play in Flamengo, the biggest club in Brazil and America, so he can win some Libertadores Cup
He came back to UTD sat down and put his feet on the table.
He has a great talent but *injuries* man
The injuries is so bad man, awful
Pogbas biggest problem wasn’t injuries, it was having a controversy seeking agent who turns players into mercs. If Zlatan wasn’t represented by Mino Raiola then he would have won the UCL. Had Pogba had a better agent he’d have gone to Real and won multiple huge titles.
I believe if he had moved to one of the Spanish giants instead of United in 2016, he would be considered a top 10 midfielder of all time
That's a good point
so basically play with a team filled with stars. players like kroos,modric, casemiro, busquets, rakitic didnt become the best in the business because they had those players alongside them. they become the best because irrespective of who was alongside them, they give their 100%, which pogba never did.
@@kabirsardana1282 Nah, Pogba was already on the path to greatness, but the United move and injuries messed up so much for him
@@pianosopher nope. if he was soo great, he'd have carried united on his back to greatness. and would have been called the greatest. theres a reason why he was soo good for France and not for united. because he couldn't handle the pressure. and at France he had the best in every position around him which made it easier for him. Rooney had some garbage players around him and fucking won them the league title.
@@pianosopherIf Pogba were truly an all time great he would have dominated at Man Utd as well. He had the talent, never had the mentality.
Luxury player. Don't look to him for inspiration or to motivate and improve players around him. Bad attitude. Saved his best performances for the off field media work. Considering the investment of money and faith put into him from United and what they got in return, one of the biggest flops in United's history. 'Like a Virus' _ Mourinho. Influential, but not positively. There was a toxicity around United for many years and he felt like a huge part of it, players playing with their heads down etc. Large sections of crowd at Old Trafford booing him and chanting for him to leave says it all.
Going back to United was a mistake, I said it back then, and I'm saying it now. Should've never gone back.
No you never? You talk rubbish!!
it was short lived, but the pogba and kante pivot was something else
The best players don’t need the best managers to get everything out of them
I’ve always thought he’s been more focussed on playing for France than Utd. Utd have also been at fault for keeping a player who had made it very clear he wanted out, but still expect him to perform at his best when his heart wasn’t in it. I don’t care who it is but if a Liverpool player made it that obvious he wanted a move away I wouldn’t expect to see the best of him for us ever again and it would be better for all party’s that they move on.
Not much of a paradox, superb player with very little between the ears, Ferguson was better suited to being a company Sargent major, two really big ego,s collided , btw been a fan since 55, so I,ve seen alot come and go, much better man management nowadays..
He just wasn't the player you all hyped him to be. Theres bang average players who have a handful of games where they play out of their skin in a season. Only with Pogba do people take those games for the player he actually is, and the majority of subpar games being the anomaly.
I'd say he was my favorite football player at Juve, even tho I'm a Man United fan (and always after CR7 ofc) and I was so excited to see him come back. Unfortunately mixed factors, such as his attitude, different play systems and managers made it all not work out, a pity...
I hate juve but like pogba. when i saw him come in for the few minutes he did play he was moving and playing like the old pogba. didn't last long at all,
James Milner is 100 times better than him. Milner can play any position and will always give his best.....he hardly ever gets injured
Pogba in space
Dream league Soccer 17 commentary lines when Pogba shoots😂
Pogba was unstoppable at Juve. So unfortunate he couldnt get back to the levels he was. I always got excited when he played
I have always believed Pogba was overrated and I stick with that opinion. His talent was undeniable, his laziness legendary.
Pogba is world class united should've played him as a cam to show his quality
It's the dancing... it just makes him come across as a tit. Talented, hugely talented, but seemed more interested in being a brand.
He never recovered from the damage from united. Choosing the wrong club is a real problem. Ask felix how he is feeling about it.
We have terrible injustices in this world. I have no time for this one.
Overrated and he should never have returned to United. When he left the first time he left a bad taste to a lot of us but more to Ferguson.
Before all the crazy off field stuff with his brother, people always had an excuse for him, he obviously had talent but what about his responsibility to produce consistently?
He involved himself in witchcraft and that was it.
The reality is Paul Pogba was never outstanding, just really good at times. Ego >>> Talent
Pogba is the definition of a luxury player! He’s great as the cherry on top, no good in the trenches though
not everyone will agree with me but I have respect for players that play for my club, When it comes to Pogba I don't know him personally but for someone outside looking in... He exerts a very happy sort of guy and a very positive lad but when it comes to the people that surrounds him seems very toxic, especially Mino Raiola. He has had issues with his own brother of recent but it looks like he's surrounded by money oriented people... Raiola always got the opportunity to speak to media and trash United. For which I don't mind because United has been dead under Glazers yet Riaola's appearance on media resulted to United fans disliking Pogba for which Pogba had no explanation and just kept it quiet... it hindered the relationship and almost all the fans did not care if he went to Juve on free again. United fans are awful yet so loyal to any players that truly play for the club and love the club whether you're mid or not that's a fact that no one can deny. Pogba's career at United has been poor because of what happened outside of the pitch and he never really addressed any issues. I wouldn't say he's a flop tho just didn't reach the hype.
We disliked him coz he was lazy, arrogant, always laughing and didn't care about winning just getting paid and his attitude spread to so many promising players like lingard and ravel morrison.i blame pogba for that as pogba taught them that they are rich and a success already so ignore what anyone says and that they are winners already and the crowd are just jealous losers! He has no respect
Wow you're all so nice!..Sorry, I have to hit this with the reality stick, things have to be said. Buckle up Pogfans.
Firstly, Paul Pogba is not Delle Alli, can we just for a start separate those two individuals. Delle Alli deserves every BIT of kindness and understanding right now, his story is heartbreaking and he needs the support. But let me just remind you, not once, not a single time, not even a whisper did Delle Alli ever allow to come from his lips, trashing his club, trashing his manager, sh*tting on his fans. Delle Alli, for all his decline and on-field problems, ALWAYS stayed professional, and I now feel, tried his level best.
Now look, Pogba may have sh*t going on, but can I just ask that we judge him on both his pitchside performance, AND what he said through the years?
- Paul Pogba had 3 great games in his entire United career. Man City comeback, Europa League final, and that 4 assist beast against Leeds. I'm a massive United fan, and not a single other game stands out for me. Now David May, Henning Berg, Jesper Blomqvist, Juan Veron and even Wout Weghorst have absolutely zero games that they stood out in, and I still like all of them. Here's why Pogba is an issue. He has games that I remember, because of something AWFUL he did. The Liverpool game where he dropped and faked an injury after jogging around for 20 minutes doing nothing. Oh yeah. We were like 3-0 down and it was clear we would lose. In his entire 6 years at United, not ONCE did he get himself up for a Liverpool game, from his first season to his last, he got dispossessed regularly and cheaply, did absolutely nothing throughout the games, and showed zero interest in a huge derby for us. Further to this, there's the game where we were 4-0 down, Pogba comes off the bench - immediately gets sent off for a TWO-FOOTED tackle. Every player knows what happens with a two-footer, this looked another deliberate attempt to get back out of this game. Add in that as a captain, he committed cardinal sin, HE made a mistake, and immediately berated a defender, this happened multiple times, and it STILL grinds my gears to this day. I know, I know....Harry Maguire has also done this, but it's not good enough from either of them, and it's still totally unacceptable from a United captain. Final point on just his performances: I can think of MANY games where Pogba literally had to be subbed off he was so useless and ineffective in the midfield. These are games against West Ham, Leicester, Newcastle, Crystal Palace, Southampton. Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Keane, even Fellaini, Herrera, Mata, Blind, I can't remember a time they were pulled because they couldn't influence the game. Gary Neville got hooked when his career was over and he couldn't keep up with his runner but really it's something that only happens in early career or very late career. Even NANI didn't get hooked in games, and he was hugely inconsistent.
- Aside from performances, the 2nd big issue with Pogba, was about his recovery from "injuries". I say that in quotations because yes, he was officially injured. But every time the guy was injured, he was off playing basketball or dancing or playing some other sport, online, on his social media, for everyone to see! He put MAJOR doubt as to how injured or even if he WAS injured, REGULARLY, to the point that many fans believe he just didn't want to play and used "I'm injured" as an excuse for a break! Funny though, Karma's a fine thing, this past year there were no dancing or other sport videos so I do believe he's ACTUALLY injured now. Boy who cried wolf..It just needs to be said, either he's very unprofessional in how he recovers from injury, or he's very, VERY unprofessional and lied about being unable to play. It's bad regardless and tell me another player, ANY other player, who has that hanging over their heads??
- 3rd issue, out of 4: transfers, and Mino Raiola. It became a situation that United fans could literally predict when Raiola would open his greasy little pigjaw, and the same for Pogba and his comments. "Paul Pogba won't sign a new deal, transfer expected", "Mino Raiola says Pogba will leave Man United, right time for a new challenge". Uh-huh. Yup. When did these comments come out? IMMEDIATELY after Pogba had a few half-decent games. He'd get a goal, provide an assist, look halfway fit and reasonably competent aaaand BAM! Transfer comments from him and his g.u.t.t.e.r.s.c.u.m agent. It got to the point, that United fans, could literally predict those press releases, based on how well he was playing....you KNEW if he was playing okay, there would be some comment within the month, sh*tting in our club, begging for more money, essentially abandoning the club at least a couple times a year. At LEAST. On this, and leading into the last point, Pogba hired Raiola, he was Pogba's representative and employee. So when that fat sh*t of an individual came out, and attacked Pogba's manager, AND his club, literally starting a Twitter war with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, not LEAST the fact it was a few days before a massive Champions League game, Paul Pogba should have come out and ammended those statements, supported the manager he himself was VERY MUCH supported by, and stood by his club. I'll always despise him for this particular episode, it showed so much disrespect to the club, and Solskjaer, who let's be honest, got treated appallingly.
- 4th issue, similar to the 3rd, but specifically what POGBA said about United, and his manager. He has REGULARLY trashed United as a team, acting like he plays for another club when he was literally supposed to be our big performer, improving us, but instead doing nothing and complaining, acting like United were nothing and so far beneath him. While playing for France, he more than once excused his awful performances, trashed United as a club, and said France was a much better team, implying they had a better manager. Look.....United fans are aware. But you had prime Kante, Mbappe, Varane, Lloris and Coman, WHY are you even comparing United to the best French team of all time, and not least the fact that your performances were still atrocious regardless! Again he attacked Solskjaer, trashing his tactics....as you said Vizeh, Solskjaer's tactics were the only ones that got the best out of Pogba....And the last thing, which will always stick with me, when Jose Mourinho got sacked. Pogba releases a Twitter saying "you f*cked with the wrong gangster". Immediately after Mourinho's sacking. Oh you little b*tch, do you even know who Jose Mourinho is??? HIS career compared to Pogba's??? This is a guy who could bury Pogba alive under silverware. He got United to 2nd in the league against an incredible, centurion Man City. He tried to sell Martial, Fred, Jones, and he wanted Rice, Varane and Kane. Mourinho knows his stuff, and to slam him as he exits the club, just screams such disrespect.
So look I know this is a long comment, but please, consider these factors when you assess Paul Pogba. I can accept maybe he has some sh*t to deal with, but he's loud, arrogant, disrespectful and disruptive, with many black marks and suspicions surrounding him, and a playing career that left not just a lingering hope of "what if", but actually a sour taste in the mouth because of his actions. He showed absolutely zero loyalty to any United manager, to the club or its fans. We accept Wout Weghorst, Odion Ighalo, Scott McTominay, so many average players. None of them run their mouths. That's why Pogba is deserving of a lot of the frustration and anger that comes his way.
People blame united for his downfall but when he was injured club wanted him to rehab in club but he went dubai to rehab,,travel to US,,,i think he should look at himself and his agent for his downfall
I blame the club for letting him choose what kind of rehab he want. i remember back when he was first appointed in November 2021 rangnick said he want every injured player to stay and do rehab at the club, fast forward to February 2022 Murthough allowed Ronaldo to go home to Portugal for "rehab". Backstabbing the managers own words.
It's sad to see Pogba in that condition, if wasn't for that Dí Maria wouldn't need to suffer to carry the team in the back in Europa League all alone.
Biggest flop i have witness wheres pogba fc to defend this 💩🤡😂
I love pogba as player and as a person. I really hope he can come back from his injury’s and return to what we all thought he’d be.
Still dabbing to this day....IYKYK
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He used to be my most favorite player since them juve days. Was such a world class player for club and country. Its sad what can actually outsiders of your life can affect you and bring you down mentally and can demotivate you.
First time I saw him was in the 2013 u20 World cup when he was dominating the midfield with so much skill and aggression . When he was holding the "best player award" all I could see was a future world class player.
I don't think there is a Pogba paradox, at times he was phenomenal, but most of the time he was just anonymous.
at least he won a world cup. that is still a big achievement
Sadly another player United's mismanagement ruined or nearly ruined. Incredible how in the last ten years, Kagawa,Depay,Martial,Zaha, Di maria,Sanchez etc havent been a success at the club.