Was my first bike back in ‘96. I was 18yrs old and beat it like a rented mule and it never let me down. I took that bike everywhere, street, dirt roads, even some trails and one winter we studded some tires and took it on the lake. It wasn’t the fastest bike but it never quit.
I don't want to sound like hardass here but I'd be interested to hear exactly what the reviewer's experience with this bike is. Has he actually ever owned one or just taken one for a spin and seen other peoples GS500's? I appreciate his opinion and the trouble he's gone to to make a review but as a GS500 owner have a polar opposite opinion of the bike. I've owned and ridden a GS500F for 2 years and am very happy with it. Not in the slightest bit problematic, no problems with carbies at all. Plenty of power for my needs, easily outruns all the traffic, handles fine, and often gets compliments on how the bike looks. They're great bikes, actually a classic, and to be honest I don't think this review is accurate. If you're thinking of buying one I would respectfully suggest at having a look at a few more reviews before making up your mind because they're an awesome bike.
Actually you forgot to say it consumes little amounts of gasoline, the parts are still produced and economic, and, in many models has 48 and 52 hp instead of thw baseline 44 (which is still better than what the dude said in the review).
@@leoglasmeyer2853 Good points. All of which I've personally experienced in the years I've owned the bike. Just goes to show anyone can make a review on anything on TH-cam
Yeah Jonas my experience has been the same. Mine had only about 3000k's on it when I first got it, and 2 years later it's still mint. I paid about the same too and it's been worth every cent.
I’m also in Australia, I bought mine about 8 months ago it’s a 2010 model with 22000 kms on it for $3700 with 12 months rego. I bought her to learn on & then complete my restricted time on. She’s now got 25000 kms & I’m really happy with the value for money. They are great bikes for beginners (very forgiving & predictable) & or brain dead commuters who just want to get to work cheaply.
My first bike was a 2004 GS500F(The F is with the fairings). I brought it brand new and that’s what I learned to ride with. I just sold it 2 months ago it was working fine all this time I highly recommend it as a first bike.
As a first bike in Europe, the GS500 is a dream! Got mine at 46 000km's (+-30k miles), did some minor wiring work to remount the turn signals; cleanly chopped/cut half the mudguard for a new tail & license plate holder to be mounted Can't forget the smaller chrome bar-end mirrors either, they make it look 10x more modern & sporty. Got a front S22 & rear BT-39 put on/balanced. It's now been a good few months and it's up to 51 000km's! Besides a faulty oil sensor and a normal service (plugs, filter, etc) it's doing great! The previous owner didn't care for it much but it seems to have held up. Even the paint came up well after multiple detailing sessions! Good tip for all the GS owners, get 98 octane! (Or whatever Americans/Aussies/etc have) & do so at a decent gas station. It'll run happier, rev so easily & will not clog up the carbs. Sporty tires help a lot too, I'm not nearly a skilled enough rider to drag knee yet but I can tear up corners on it darn well given it's power & size (I'm 6.4", I quite literally dwarf the bike) This is to prove all of saying a small bike isn't fun wrong & all of you who say tall guys can't ride small bikes; her that seems to be a lie too ;)
It seems like they are better taken care of over there haha, so many of the GS models here have been thoroughly abused. Most stations here in the U.S. the best fuel available is 91-93 octane, and is usually an Ethanol mix. I love finding stations with non-ethanol high test for my bikes with carbs, but at the very least if owners will run premium gas and not let the bikes sit with ethanol in the carbs it will go a long way!
The GS500 tend to fall apart quickly from a cosmetic point of view but tough mechanically. Engine good for 100k at least. I’ve seen more Ninja 500 with big issues particularly big ends going out and can wear. In this class the Honda cb500 was in a different class. Much better built than both, bombproof motor. Only issue, on the faired ones only, was an appetite for clutch cables. Great bikes.
I bought a roached gs500f that was flipped and the gages had scratches and the fering was missing. Got the black spray paint treatment and had been sitting for over a year for 400 bucks. After a carb clean it runs great. The throw of the shifter is super short compared to bigger bikes because of the direct connection, no slop tho. Stock bars on mine are super wide makes it hard to lane split CA here. Common greviences are too soft suspension? I whey 250 and dont feel a problem. Under damped? Idk either cut my other bike is a fz6r and that bike bounces, compared to that its tighter than a drum. Another is the vacuum activated pep cock doesn't have the flow rate for long high-speed stints. Reely its vacuum operated make sure you don't have vacuum leaks and it works perfectly fine. Jetting is another, just go richer carburetors are not as sensitive nor is jetting a dark art like the internet would have you believe. The air cooling means one less system to look after. Sounds like ass if anything but the stock pipe is on it. Rear brake locks up the rear very easily if blead right, just learn to not touch it and you will be fine. Runs regular. Also reely nothing you can do will give you a significant power increase no matter what the forum posts from 2000 say. The cases hold a massive amount of oil. Its pretty bomb proof other than those vacuum lines, I dont see the logic on how the kawasaki would hold up bettler but I've never owned one so idk. Its a good bike that takes minal matianeince, a thick steel frame makes it corner well idk whats not to like. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
I bought one last december with 50,000 km on it. I directly cleaned the carburator and replaced the tires and now I'm at 61000 km without any problems. If you use it responsible as he says, it is a very good bike
In 2018 I bought a 2001 GS500 with about 12,000 miles on it. Had a few dings on it but was still in very good physical shape. Since then I have had the front shocks rebuilt, a top end overhaul, new head gaskets, installed a new exhaust pipe (more open with a much better sound. I also changed the handlebars (previous owner had dropped on its side and bent the bars slightly, just enough to make the ride awkward. I installed a lower profile set of bars, lower than stock but not quite clubman bars (at 77 years of age riding around in a full crouch was very tiresome). Its not fast (I think the GS stands for Goes Slow) but it will buzz along at highway speeds with no issues . I burn nothing but non ethanol high test and the performance seems about the same as my 2003 Triumph Bonneville (800cc). No, its not a sports bike but it is very reliable, handles fairly well (as long as I don't think I am Valentino Rossi) and gives me about 65 mpg. It was certainly not my first bike and doesn't get my blood flowing like my SV650 did but its a good motorcycle for what it is.
I had a GS500F for 4 years as my first bike after passing my motorcycle test. I loved it & REALLY loved it after spending $200 to update the suspension. In fact the reason why I kept it for so long & didn't upgrade it after my first 1-2 years is because it was so good after I put new springs in the forks & used an R6 rear shock. It was bullet proof, fast enough, sipped cheap gas, was cheap to insure, easy to work on & was very reliable. I traded up to a Yamaha Tracer 9GT & sold my GS500F for almost as much as I paid for it. The Ninja 500 probably would have been a better choice, but they cost a lot more & every one I looked at had been abused to some extent, mostly they'd been dropped & obviously slid along the road. My GS500F was in excellent condition & cost less & I had plenty to choose from like that. Ninja 500s in similarly clean condition cost 50%-75% more & had higher miles, which is ridiculous!
I lucked out and bought an 05 gs500 for $700 bucks with about 10000 miles i put that thing through hell and its still solid lol perfect first bike in my opinion
I've owned a couple of these and currently own one. It is as you say: an OK bike, but there's so many better options out there. I also owned the EX500 and also agree that it's the better option for day-to-day riding. Where the little GS really shines is the "retro" fun-factor. It's just a fine little bike to motor around on. It's also very easy to work on (the naked one, naturally easist). The carbs are notoriously fiddly, but easy to work on (Suzuki put 4 of the turds on the Katana-yeesh!) but do need to be watched for float-levels, vacuum leaks, worn rubber bits and clogged idle jets. I do like mine, so I'll probably hang on to it a bit longer as a decent example is getting harder to find.
Spot on.. Had a GS500, excellent cheap transport that served me well when I was skint. Also had a ER5, the unfaired version of the 500 ninja, & agree with you. Other good options at similar price point are Honda CB500 (twin, better build quality) or 600 Yamaha Diversion (4 cylinder) if you get those in America. Good video, Cheers 👍🏻
This end of the market is always a bit of a risk a GS500 will be in the UK at least 15 years old and were often ridden all year . Get a good one and it is cheap transport that though not the best bike it will rack up the miles if looked after . I wouldn’t travel to buy one but if one turned up locally I would buy it .
I agree. My friend started on a Ninja 500 back in the day and I started on a Vulcan EN 500, which had the ninja engine in it. Both were great bikes for what they are - entry level bikes.
The gs 500 is a great bike. I have ridden a lot of bikes. But nothing like this one. I recently picked up one to ride on the trails. It’s an animal. What 500 steel frame do u know that weights under 400 pounds 😂 it’s an absolute animal for what it is. In the 500 class. This is the best I’ve seen. I’ve owned a cb750 and didn’t expect what came from that. There is amazing bikes that get over looked all the time. I’ve never had so much fun on a bike like I do on this one. I always refused any thing lower than a 750. Typically I want more than a 750. But it would do. Excellent bike. Is it a beginner absolutely not. My son learned to ride my shadow 1100 with ease. This one not so much. He could not get it to move 😂 throttle response is crazy. It gets there quick
I think the bike in question is a very good bike as long as its scrutinised within the context to which it is aimed at, in other words let's not compare it to a ZZR1400 and get all upset because it won't do 180mph. Great all rounder, touring, sporty riding or commuting it ticks all the boxes. I have a Suzuki GR650 Tempter which shares a very similar engine, longevity with trusted Suzuki reliability. Ok it ain't gonna set the world on fire but to some people that doesn't matter. If I'd one in my garage I wouldn't be complaining....
Absolutely! It can be an awesome bike so long as the riders expectations are in line, and as long as it has been well cared for haha...the problem I see with a lot of them is pure neglect and riders wanting a GSXR...which it is not.
I had one for almost 4 years. Bought it with 68K KM (42K miles), sold it at 125K KM (77K miles). For what they are, they're great little bikes. Make sure to keep an eye on the oil levels! These bikes are air cooled and tend to consume oil on longer rides, especially in high RPMs. Also, keep the jetting stock and don't play with the exhaust/air intake, they're fairly sensitive bikes when it comes to that and it's a PITA to set them up correctly if you mod them. Other than that, it's a hoot. One cheap upgrade worth investing in - a GSX600F Katana rear shock and 15W oil on the front. Put some radial Michelin Pilot Street tires on it and go hit some twisties, you'll be surprised at how capable this bike is.
I love mine. I specifically looked for a smaller bike for a 60km round trip commute, and it handles this beautifully. I like what you're saying in this video, and would love to try the Ninja, but won't go looking for one to buy because this class of bike is not something I would want to restrict myself to forever. I just wasn't riding much socially any more, went looking for all sorts of larger bikes to commute on, then realised that I actually didn't need that much horsepower for my purposes. Bike weight was also an issue. I wanted something light because the nature of the block I live on means I have to push it slightly uphill out of its parking spot every morning. That said, when I bought this, severe engine noises necessitated me having to swap the short motor for another one. A few years ago I also totally rebuilt the engine in a GS450. Very simple and strong engine. My engine noises (alarming crunching sounds) turned out to be the starter clutch bolts wearing out their thread holes in the flywheel housing, so the block I swapped out was still good. Finding a starter clutch/flywheel here in Australia was impossible; I had to get one from Arizona. If anything, if I was buying one of these, any noise in that area would mean no deal. All other parts easy to get. Swapping the engine is a bitch with the top end on, particularly when you have to do it twice after you find that the flywheel bolt hole has a damaged thread and you're stupid enough to take it out to take it to the engine shop only to realise you could have gotten them to come over and fix it in situ. As far as price, cheap here as well. Mine paid for itself in petrol savings for the first year, and to be honest, I wouldn't be in a hurry to sell it because it's value to me is worth more than what I would get for it. Sorry for the long comment; I was actually looking up youtube to see how easy it was to change a master cylinder sight glass. Not paying 10% of the value of my bike to replace an otherwise perfectly operating master cylinder.
Brilliant Bike for anyone, be learner or, strong, fast, easy maintenance, little money to keep on the road. This bike has it all, definitely a keeper for me, wen all the others crap out, this beast I'll keep going, great fun in the hills, bumps & bends 👌
I have a GS 500 FS. Handles Great, accelerates great, and in my opinion, runs like a 650. Not sure on the ponies, but I think its more than he has said. Had an issue with one carb, but that was just requiring a cleaning and adjust. Now on the Kawy, (that he says was soooo great) before the suzy I had a Kawy 650 4 cylinder, and after the first 200 miles, it dogged out on the highway once. I had to have it towed to the shop after limping home on the side of the road in first gear. it was a carbed model and the throttle response dropped and the bike quit running. Also, for a four cyclinder 650, I was NOT impressed with how the Kawy ran overall. It was NOT as peppy as the Suzy twin (that was Double OHC) and seemed to start loosing its ummmp when in high gear and wanting to get on the acelleration. The suzy wanted to GO! and when I twisted the throttle she breathed and was happy to run, like a wild horse. so im not sure how he rated the Ninja as so good, when All the 'ninja' owners Ive know always had problems. my next bike, way above the kawy versy is the Vstrom. More bike overall, but if you want to "save a grand", then "step down" to the Kawy. The 23 suzy has a nice 8s. cheers.
At the end of the day, availability is the best ability, and if affordable then it wins - on an individual basis not a "this model is better than that model" comparison. A $1000 available? Nowhere that I look. KBB value for 2006 (yes they were still making them) GS500f is just over $2K, for an average subject. A spotless one near me is $2800 and it's the best thing around for sale. NOTE- these bikes do have a big group of followers and supporters, and back in the day they were used not only as school bikes but track training bikes. I haven't seen an EX 500 (hard to use the Ninja name on it when it came later and really was not one) listed in probably a couple of years - but yes is a better bike (marginally), and costs more. Where I am, and dealing with the supply chain issues around here (northwest US), used bikes are selling for MSRP ! e.g. a 2-year old Duke 390 with 1k miles on it is $5500, and we have to pay sales tax on used vehicles even for private parties so add another 10% on it. If something is listed for $1K, it doesn't run and might be in pieces. The dilemma for me is the GS500F or EX500/Ninja 500 vs. a newer Ninja 250 or 300. They are the same price, but seems like if I can slip into a Ninja 300 with EFI, as a rider getting back into the sport I might be better off. But it would be nice to have the torque of the bigger 500cc. They just don't make many beginner/intermediate 500s any more. I'd buy a used Z400 or Ninja 400, but there aren't any on the market around here. I'd consider an MT03 but availability is even worse! So as I lead with, I'll look at bikes on an individual basis, and if a GS500F is available for under $3K and is meticulously cared for, then it likely wins and definitely wins over better models that aren't actually for sale. Hell, I'd probably pick a SV650 over all these options, but there are only 2 listed within 100 miles of me.
This was my first bike in 97, 2 mates and me took it around Europe 2000 miles in 2 weeks , England , France,Germany , Italy, Switzerland, Czech Republic , and back to uk . They were on gsx 1000 and Honda transalp 600 and little me on my gs , it held up fine although a little underpowered.
One of them is more like a sportbike, one of them is more like naked type. I think that comparison wrong on the "looks" side but got your point on other areas.
In Europe almost everyone had or rode one of these, it's the kind of product that everyone love to hate but at the end of the day it was a totally success for Suzuki until it was obsolete, still market for it as a first bike on a budget
They are both good bikes. If you can find either one in good condition, go for it. Bike repair is expensive, so unless you know mechanic and can DIY, spend a little more to get the one in good condition, instead of a cheaper one, that may need fixing.
I’m going to get one of these first of the year and turn it into a adventure type bike I’m going to put hard bags and rear luggage on it. Taller windshield I’ll be sure to find a nice specimen to buy. Seems to be 2000 2500$ gets you a NICE one
My 02 had carb issues because of consensation in the fuel tank ( I didn't realize at the time). The petcock filled with rust and it clogged up. I took it to the dealer where I bought it new and they told me I put bad gas in it. I always put 76 premium in it, couldn't understand what they were talking about. They charged me $700 to get it back and it soon clogged up again. The carb bowls were filled with rust. Even though I had warranty, they would not rplace the fuel tank. So I cleaned it out, got it running as good as I could and sold it. It had 10,000 miles on it then. But it had rust cancer inside of the fuel tank and the guy that bought it from me had to replace it. they need to be parked in a garage to keep condensation from the fuel tank
Sounds like you went to the wrong garage for help. Any competent mechanic should easily be able to get this bike running like new. My bike just needed a carb clean and a new petcock and was as good as new.
I bought a GS500 because what I really wanted was an air cooled 125 that would hold 60mph uphill with a headwind and they don’t exist and 250s made in the last 20 years in the UK are thin on the ground so the GS fits the bill. It makes me laugh that it isn’t fast enough considering it will dust a 200bhp hot hatch in the UK and so that makes it faster than most of the cars on UK roads.
I definitely need to take my time shopping. I found a beat on 1980 gs500 for 1500. I found two others one is a 2009 with 3000 miles with the faring for 3000. and another one with a faring that is missing front turn signal for 2700. I would love to find bikes priced like you are talking about Alex.
Hi Eric! Sorry again for the delays responding. If you were looking at the 1980 model that is a different model of GS500 for sure, which was actually an older inline 4 model and a lot different. These GS500 models I am talking about were the 1988/89 to 2009 air cooled twin version. That's probably a big reason you see the pricing differences haha.
I bought my first bike 07 GS 500f in July last year. Seller said he took care of it. Nope. I eventually did maintenance after few months. Now Rides like new even in extreme cold temperatures. Gs500 was used for decades by police in many third world countries. They drive it to the ground and GS still runs. Another good choice is 2015 ninja 300. They are Japanese made so they will outlast all other bikes.
They're great bikes. I had several during the 90s and 00s. You do have to get the valve clearances done every 6k though, which is fiddly if you do it yourself or expensive if you get it done. Failure to do so will force petrol backwards, flooding the carbs. I've ridden other bikes and card that have done thousandss and thousands of miles without tappet checks and no problem. It seems to be a specific gs thing. Don't forget, it is a prehistoric design going back to the mid 70s, the block being the middle pair of the old GS1000 four. You should get 60 UK MPG and 90 mph flat out, neutral conditions. The quoted top speed of 110mph is nonsense so don't be disappointed if your bike won't do it.
Better than both of them is the honda cb500s. I have owned this one from new (21 years) and have covered 139000 miles. Just come back from Devon last week 600 mile trip.
I’ve had a 98 gs500 for the last 3 or so years, slowly rebuilding (as well as maintaining) bits so it’ll be “standard-plus” by the time I sell it. I think it’s been the worst motorbike I’ve ever worked on lol, don’t get me wrong though, it’s been very reliable, and it does start/move/stop when requested, it’s just a pain to work on. The handling was ok and slightly improved with wider tyres and stiffer front suspension, I see it as a commuter bike that’s trying to be sporty and kinda fails at both when compared to other bikes
The GS500 is a more flexible platform than the Ninja. I like the Ninja, and it is mechanically more advanced: but it is what it is and not as easy to upgrade or customize. For example, with a GS you can swap in a used R6 rear shock for around $100.00, and most GS500's have tubular handlebars, so you can easily swap them to adjust riding position and there are tons of aftermarket and used parts available. The later GS's were detuned from 51hp to 48hp to accommodate the European hp restricted A2 license so a simple carb re-jet can see some real gains. If you live in a northern region consider the effect of extreme-cold storage on a water-cooled bike. Where I live, you can expect at least a week or 2 of -35c every winter. Was it stored in an unheated shed? Did the previous owner prep the bike with -40c anti-freeze (coolant) or drain it? If not you can get cracks in the water-jacket, or compromise the head gasket. These are the things I considered when choosing between the 2 bikes, and I passed on a 400km 2006 Ninja that had been in storage (outdoors) for many years, and ended up buying a 480km 2005 GS500F(stored indoors for over 10 years.) Both bikes looked brand new, but I checked the coolant on the Ninja ( hydrometer) and it was only good to -15c.
I have a 2004 all stock. Carbs were rebuilt with stock jets. stock quiet pipe. It pulls extremely well onthe bottom end to about 5or 6000 RPM then it seems to run out of steam, It goes faster if you short shift it. Its also a little hard to start when cold. coughs and spits. Is this part of that detune you are speaking of? If I open up the exhaust a bit and rejet will i retain the low end and it just keeps pulling or will I lose that nice low end and still have no top end?
@@smoke05s No I think the detune was the done via the cams. Your bike is not working up to stock spec; I wouldn't modify it, until you correct the problem...maybe your mechanic mixed-up the primary and secondary mains lol.
In european markets there is another incentive to go with the gs500e/f, that being the A2 license, which limits your power to 35kW or 48hp, so if the ninja500's hit 50hp, you can't ride them with your A2 license :)
Owned my gs for 14 years. Still have it. Motor replaced at 80,000 currently 82,000 miles. I beat the piss out of it. It served as a commuter. Not a sport play bike.
I agree in the mid 90's I got a GS 500 fully faired but should have got the GPZ or CBR instead I thought the GS was not even as good as FZR 250 I had previously.
In my opinion, great motorcycle with great air-cooled parallel twin engine! The only thing that needed to be done was to reduce the weight to max 150 kg with all liquids!
In the UK it's at the top of the tree for the A2 License, 47bhp. The Ninja has more power, but it is a lot less forgiving in corners and has a weird spindly feel, compared to the fatter Suzuki body. They are more of a handful in practical terms. The GS is better as a starter bike, it's why many training schools use them.
Ive got a 1997 model which had under 2000 miles when i got it and was mint! I think its a great bike but there is no way my one is getting to the 115 - 120 mph range, no way. I have only managed to get it to 90, and that was down a very long hill on the motorway. Also, it is awful in cross winds! The faired version must be far worse. However, i love the soft suspension. It eats up the worst holes on Scottish roads! Great reliable bike as long as any carb problems have been sorted. Also i changed the oil and filter after the recomended time and the old filter had disintegrated and it was like wire wool as i drained the oil. So change the oil and filter BEFORE the recomended time. And always change the filter with the oil. Only other bad thing is the lean into the handlebars. Its a stretch with the drop bars and is hurting my back. My hands and arms are going numb at night in bed!
At the moment i have a Suzuki Inazuma 250 which i use to get to work on my daily 35 mile round trip. I love riding that bike. I'm only 5ft 8 and with a 30 inch inside leg it suits my short height. It gives me over 80 miles to the gallon which is excellent. Its has a very comfortable riding position and handles the road really well. The trouble is, its a bit lacking in power. I dont want a big cc bike, just something very like the Inazuma but bigger. Somewhere in the 500 - 750 size and no older then 2014. You are a very knowledgeable guy. What do you recommend?
I own a 2005 gs500 and it's a treat. But no doubt a 500 Ninja is a possibility too. Your video is very interesting to me because the naked version picture illustrating your speech is 99% matching my own model. Can you tell me were to find this picture "full size"? As always, thank you for the very informative and nice video
Had one in 2007 for about 5 years, gs500f and the build quality was poor, frame paint fell off before it was 2 year old. Regulator rectifier also packed up around same time. Mainstand broke in 2 in first year
Hello i'm new in your channel, i think the Suzuki Bandit 400 its better than that one, but 1990 ones were insane fast. The Gs 500 is very good but in my opinion the Bandit 400 is better.
The gladius is a fine bike, it is just the previous generation of the sv650. I can't compare it with the new generation of sv, but as far as suspension and fueling it was a refinement of the first generation of sv. The question is, do the prices that new and used current generation sv650's justify themselves to be so much higher than what you score a Gladius for.
Kawasaki was smarter. They took the ninja 900 and made a 500 twin. 4 valve w/liquid cooling....the EX500. Also previously the LTD 454 cruiser. Suzuki took the 70s era gs400 and gave it 500cc. Still old 2 valve air cooled style. Definately the power under dog.. About as quick as a HD 883. The front brake worked decent and handling was good. Check my video leaning one way over.
My son's first "big" bike. Was great. Nice to ride for the smaller sub 5 10 rider. Hated British winters. Original exhaust would rust through quickly. Engine heritage right back to the 450 70's twin. Ninja 500 more complex to maintain but agree. A better bike. Good job 👍
Good content. Can you do a video on larger dual sport thumpers? Iam interested in your thoughts. I have owned the crf 250l and a drz 400. Even though the Honda is more modern I prefer the Suzuki drz.
Sorry for the delay, I can absolutely add it to the list! On larger dual sport thumpers there are three I usually recommend just depending on your intended purpose, it's hard to beat a DR650, and XR650, or a KLR650 just based on how you intend to ride haha.
HI Alex. Thank you for doing this video. I'm looking at a 1995 GS500e that is for sale for $500.00. What is your opinion on the 80's Honda Magna V45 750?
The Magna was an AMAZING motorcycle especially for the time, I would not hesitate to own a magna at all. It is a little more complicated in the maintenance department due to the engine configuration, but if taken care of it is a forever motorcycle, and will be a really cool piece as time goes on.
So you think my Suzuki gs500 isn't good motorcycle😥😥😥😥 I am kidding ofcourse . I am from Bulgaria, and here Suzuki gs500 are one of the most cheapest but also in a very good condition. My first motorcycle 😎
I thought it was a worldwide model but not sure, i know it was a U.S. model for over 20 years hahaha...the actual model code here was EX500 so it's possible that it was listed under a different model name in Europe as tends to happen
@@AlexSimmons11c ah yes there is ONE ex500 on there. The ad says it's a racing bike, seems somewhat strange for a 650cc 2007 naked. Its pinkslip is expired, it hasn't been serviced in a long time, it's dinged up and also farther away from me than the gs500 which I have my eye on. Your video was pretty interesting, thanks!
I know this video is long time ago, i have a Suzuki GS500F from 2005 on the eye with 8000 kms for €2000 here in Belgium. If i see the prices from America its so cheap for used bikes in comparison with this country xd
Is the kawasaki ninja 500 not injection? I habe the gs500e 94 now for 10 years. Pretty good and reliable but i tried to revision the whole intake. What a darn as job think i got the carbs of for more than 10 times and im still not happy with it :/
No the Kawasaki Ninja 500 (ex500) was not fuel injected, it was also carbed. Unfortunately you are right, once you start messing the carbs and stock intake on a multi-carb bike it can be a pain to get it the way you want it again haha
I got the Suzuki 500 is it normal for them to tick a bit? Mine ticks and it’s definitely noticeable but only ticks when the engine is warmed up witch make me worried and think the valves need adjusting or cam chain it has good power and everything and starts right up has 21k miles
If it is not running it really needs to be a $500 bike or less, since you'll have to put the work and money into fixing it, and can't be sure exactly what it needs yet!
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Was my first bike back in ‘96. I was 18yrs old and beat it like a rented mule and it never let me down. I took that bike everywhere, street, dirt roads, even some trails and one winter we studded some tires and took it on the lake. It wasn’t the fastest bike but it never quit.
"...beat it like a rented mule." lmao
I don't want to sound like hardass here but I'd be interested to hear exactly what the reviewer's experience with this bike is. Has he actually ever owned one or just taken one for a spin and seen other peoples GS500's? I appreciate his opinion and the trouble he's gone to to make a review but as a GS500 owner have a polar opposite opinion of the bike.
I've owned and ridden a GS500F for 2 years and am very happy with it. Not in the slightest bit problematic, no problems with carbies at all. Plenty of power for my needs, easily outruns all the traffic, handles fine, and often gets compliments on how the bike looks. They're great bikes, actually a classic, and to be honest I don't think this review is accurate. If you're thinking of buying one I would respectfully suggest at having a look at a few more reviews before making up your mind because they're an awesome bike.
I'm talking to a guy about buying one now and thank you for your comment question if the oil leaks is that a major fix
A month later I guess I can assume if you don't have experience with a bike don't make a review on it.
@@AndyPutt1 Same with 90% of the crap on YT.
Actually you forgot to say it consumes little amounts of gasoline, the parts are still produced and economic, and, in many models has 48 and 52 hp instead of thw baseline 44 (which is still better than what the dude said in the review).
@@leoglasmeyer2853 Good points. All of which I've personally experienced in the years I've owned the bike. Just goes to show anyone can make a review on anything on TH-cam
I just bought a 2007 GS500F with 17900km for $3500 AUD a couple months ago. At 20,000km now and I gotta say, what a great bike.
Awesome! Can definitely be a great bike if taken care of, too bad most American GS500F models have not been well cared for!
Im going for the same
Yeah Jonas my experience has been the same. Mine had only about 3000k's on it when I first got it, and 2 years later it's still mint. I paid about the same too and it's been worth every cent.
I’m also in Australia, I bought mine about 8 months ago it’s a 2010 model with 22000 kms on it for $3700 with 12 months rego. I bought her to learn on & then complete my restricted time on. She’s now got 25000 kms & I’m really happy with the value for money.
They are great bikes for beginners (very forgiving & predictable) & or brain dead commuters who just want to get to work cheaply.
@@AlexSimmons11c the f has an oil cooler which is a plus !
My first bike was a 2004 GS500F(The F is with the fairings). I brought it brand new and that’s what I learned to ride with. I just sold it 2 months ago it was working fine all this time I highly recommend it as a first bike.
As a first bike in Europe, the GS500 is a dream!
Got mine at 46 000km's (+-30k miles), did some minor wiring work to remount the turn signals; cleanly chopped/cut half the mudguard for a new tail & license plate holder to be mounted
Can't forget the smaller chrome bar-end mirrors either, they make it look 10x more modern & sporty.
Got a front S22 & rear BT-39 put on/balanced.
It's now been a good few months and it's up to 51 000km's!
Besides a faulty oil sensor and a normal service (plugs, filter, etc) it's doing great!
The previous owner didn't care for it much but it seems to have held up. Even the paint came up well after multiple detailing sessions!
Good tip for all the GS owners, get 98 octane!
(Or whatever Americans/Aussies/etc have) & do so at a decent gas station.
It'll run happier, rev so easily & will not clog up the carbs.
Sporty tires help a lot too, I'm not nearly a skilled enough rider to drag knee yet but I can tear up corners on it darn well given it's power & size (I'm 6.4", I quite literally dwarf the bike)
This is to prove all of saying a small bike isn't fun wrong & all of you who say tall guys can't ride small bikes; her that seems to be a lie too ;)
It seems like they are better taken care of over there haha, so many of the GS models here have been thoroughly abused. Most stations here in the U.S. the best fuel available is 91-93 octane, and is usually an Ethanol mix. I love finding stations with non-ethanol high test for my bikes with carbs, but at the very least if owners will run premium gas and not let the bikes sit with ethanol in the carbs it will go a long way!
Mine is still running...so good indeed! Just love it!!!
Awesome to hear it! They can run forever if taken care of! Too many people just won't maintain them
The GS500 tend to fall apart quickly from a cosmetic point of view but tough mechanically. Engine good for 100k at least. I’ve seen more Ninja 500 with big issues particularly big ends going out and can wear. In this class the Honda cb500 was in a different class. Much better built than both, bombproof motor. Only issue, on the faired ones only, was an appetite for clutch cables. Great bikes.
I bought a roached gs500f that was flipped and the gages had scratches and the fering was missing. Got the black spray paint treatment and had been sitting for over a year for 400 bucks. After a carb clean it runs great. The throw of the shifter is super short compared to bigger bikes because of the direct connection, no slop tho. Stock bars on mine are super wide makes it hard to lane split CA here. Common greviences are too soft suspension? I whey 250 and dont feel a problem. Under damped? Idk either cut my other bike is a fz6r and that bike bounces, compared to that its tighter than a drum. Another is the vacuum activated pep cock doesn't have the flow rate for long high-speed stints. Reely its vacuum operated make sure you don't have vacuum leaks and it works perfectly fine. Jetting is another, just go richer carburetors are not as sensitive nor is jetting a dark art like the internet would have you believe. The air cooling means one less system to look after. Sounds like ass if anything but the stock pipe is on it. Rear brake locks up the rear very easily if blead right, just learn to not touch it and you will be fine. Runs regular. Also reely nothing you can do will give you a significant power increase no matter what the forum posts from 2000 say. The cases hold a massive amount of oil. Its pretty bomb proof other than those vacuum lines, I dont see the logic on how the kawasaki would hold up bettler but I've never owned one so idk. Its a good bike that takes minal matianeince, a thick steel frame makes it corner well idk whats not to like. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
I’m 16 got one for free and fixing it up today ;)
I bought one last december with 50,000 km on it. I directly cleaned the carburator and replaced the tires and now I'm at 61000 km without any problems. If you use it responsible as he says, it is a very good bike
Awesome to hear it, keep enjoying and ride safe!
Which year?
@@Spartansrule118 Since a year now I drive a V-strom 650, but the GS500 was from '92. It was a reliable and great bike to own.
In 2018 I bought a 2001 GS500 with about 12,000 miles on it. Had a few dings on it but was still in very good physical shape. Since then I have had the front shocks rebuilt, a top end overhaul, new head gaskets, installed a new exhaust pipe (more open with a much better sound. I also changed the handlebars (previous owner had dropped on its side and bent the bars slightly, just enough to make the ride awkward. I installed a lower profile set of bars, lower than stock but not quite clubman bars (at 77 years of age riding around in a full crouch was very tiresome). Its not fast (I think the GS stands for Goes Slow) but it will buzz along at highway speeds with no issues . I burn nothing but non ethanol high test and the performance seems about the same as my 2003 Triumph Bonneville (800cc). No, its not a sports bike but it is very reliable, handles fairly well (as long as I don't think I am Valentino Rossi) and gives me about 65 mpg. It was certainly not my first bike and doesn't get my blood flowing like my SV650 did but its a good motorcycle for what it is.
hi Normam surprised to hear it performs similar to the bonne. but the bonne has heaps more torque for hills? im considering a sv650 next !
This was my 1st bike. I drove cross country on it
Hell yeah!
I had a GS500F for 4 years as my first bike after passing my motorcycle test. I loved it & REALLY loved it after spending $200 to update the suspension. In fact the reason why I kept it for so long & didn't upgrade it after my first 1-2 years is because it was so good after I put new springs in the forks & used an R6 rear shock. It was bullet proof, fast enough, sipped cheap gas, was cheap to insure, easy to work on & was very reliable. I traded up to a Yamaha Tracer 9GT & sold my GS500F for almost as much as I paid for it.
The Ninja 500 probably would have been a better choice, but they cost a lot more & every one I looked at had been abused to some extent, mostly they'd been dropped & obviously slid along the road. My GS500F was in excellent condition & cost less & I had plenty to choose from like that. Ninja 500s in similarly clean condition cost 50%-75% more & had higher miles, which is ridiculous!
I lucked out and bought an 05 gs500 for $700 bucks with about 10000 miles i put that thing through hell and its still solid lol perfect first bike in my opinion
That is EXACTLY the best type of GS500 haha, they are great for getting a cheap bike and riding the hell out of it.
Hell ya bro i just got one today for 800 with 17k miles let’s see how long it lasts me
Same here, I bought one for 700$ also and loving it.
I've owned a couple of these and currently own one. It is as you say: an OK bike, but there's so many better options out there. I also owned the EX500 and also agree that it's the better option for day-to-day riding.
Where the little GS really shines is the "retro" fun-factor. It's just a fine little bike to motor around on. It's also very easy to work on (the naked one, naturally easist). The carbs are notoriously fiddly, but easy to work on (Suzuki put 4 of the turds on the Katana-yeesh!) but do need to be watched for float-levels, vacuum leaks, worn rubber bits and clogged idle jets. I do like mine, so I'll probably hang on to it a bit longer as a decent example is getting harder to find.
Spot on.. Had a GS500, excellent cheap transport that served me well when I was skint. Also had a ER5, the unfaired version of the 500 ninja, & agree with you. Other good options at similar price point are Honda CB500 (twin, better build quality) or 600 Yamaha Diversion (4 cylinder) if you get those in America.
Good video, Cheers 👍🏻
This end of the market is always a bit of a risk a GS500 will be in the UK at least 15 years old and were often ridden all year . Get a good one and it is cheap transport that though not the best bike it will rack up the miles if looked after . I wouldn’t travel to buy one but if one turned up locally I would buy it .
@@johnludmon7419 absolutely! Thanks for your comment 👍🏻
The CB500 twin wasn't too hard to get here, the Yamaha was released but with a different name and different setup haha
I agree. My friend started on a Ninja 500 back in the day and I started on a Vulcan EN 500, which had the ninja engine in it. Both were great bikes for what they are - entry level bikes.
The earlier generation of En500 was a real hoot, domed pistons and ninja cams. The later en500 came with milder cams and a bump down in compression.
They really were cool bikes for the intended purpose
The gs 500 is a great bike. I have ridden a lot of bikes. But nothing like this one. I recently picked up one to ride on the trails. It’s an animal. What 500 steel frame do u know that weights under 400 pounds 😂 it’s an absolute animal for what it is. In the 500 class. This is the best I’ve seen. I’ve owned a cb750 and didn’t expect what came from that. There is amazing bikes that get over looked all the time. I’ve never had so much fun on a bike like I do on this one. I always refused any thing lower than a 750. Typically I want more than a 750. But it would do. Excellent bike. Is it a beginner absolutely not. My son learned to ride my shadow 1100 with ease. This one not so much. He could not get it to move 😂 throttle response is crazy. It gets there quick
I just pick up one for 250 (definitely not mint but she’s complete) put about $150 into and now I’ve got a running sport bike
I think the bike in question is a very good bike as long as its scrutinised within the context to which it is aimed at, in other words let's not compare it to a ZZR1400 and get all upset because it won't do 180mph. Great all rounder, touring, sporty riding or commuting it ticks all the boxes. I have a Suzuki GR650 Tempter which shares a very similar engine, longevity with trusted Suzuki reliability. Ok it ain't gonna set the world on fire but to some people that doesn't matter. If I'd one in my garage I wouldn't be complaining....
Absolutely! It can be an awesome bike so long as the riders expectations are in line, and as long as it has been well cared for haha...the problem I see with a lot of them is pure neglect and riders wanting a GSXR...which it is not.
I had one for almost 4 years. Bought it with 68K KM (42K miles), sold it at 125K KM (77K miles). For what they are, they're great little bikes. Make sure to keep an eye on the oil levels! These bikes are air cooled and tend to consume oil on longer rides, especially in high RPMs. Also, keep the jetting stock and don't play with the exhaust/air intake, they're fairly sensitive bikes when it comes to that and it's a PITA to set them up correctly if you mod them. Other than that, it's a hoot. One cheap upgrade worth investing in - a GSX600F Katana rear shock and 15W oil on the front. Put some radial Michelin Pilot Street tires on it and go hit some twisties, you'll be surprised at how capable this bike is.
"..owned by a responsible human being.." 😂🤣😂
Hahaha :-)
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I love mine. I specifically looked for a smaller bike for a 60km round trip commute, and it handles this beautifully. I like what you're saying in this video, and would love to try the Ninja, but won't go looking for one to buy because this class of bike is not something I would want to restrict myself to forever. I just wasn't riding much socially any more, went looking for all sorts of larger bikes to commute on, then realised that I actually didn't need that much horsepower for my purposes. Bike weight was also an issue. I wanted something light because the nature of the block I live on means I have to push it slightly uphill out of its parking spot every morning. That said, when I bought this, severe engine noises necessitated me having to swap the short motor for another one. A few years ago I also totally rebuilt the engine in a GS450. Very simple and strong engine. My engine noises (alarming crunching sounds) turned out to be the starter clutch bolts wearing out their thread holes in the flywheel housing, so the block I swapped out was still good. Finding a starter clutch/flywheel here in Australia was impossible; I had to get one from Arizona. If anything, if I was buying one of these, any noise in that area would mean no deal. All other parts easy to get. Swapping the engine is a bitch with the top end on, particularly when you have to do it twice after you find that the flywheel bolt hole has a damaged thread and you're stupid enough to take it out to take it to the engine shop only to realise you could have gotten them to come over and fix it in situ. As far as price, cheap here as well. Mine paid for itself in petrol savings for the first year, and to be honest, I wouldn't be in a hurry to sell it because it's value to me is worth more than what I would get for it. Sorry for the long comment; I was actually looking up youtube to see how easy it was to change a master cylinder sight glass. Not paying 10% of the value of my bike to replace an otherwise perfectly operating master cylinder.
Brilliant Bike for anyone, be learner or, strong, fast, easy maintenance, little money to keep on the road. This bike has it all, definitely a keeper for me, wen all the others crap out, this beast I'll keep going, great fun in the hills, bumps & bends 👌
I had a GS550L and it CONSTANTLY had electrical issues. I was actually a bit relieved when I wrecked it in White Rock, BC!
1993 gs500 was my first bike. Learned so much on that thing and wish I could find another one.
I have a GS 500 FS. Handles Great, accelerates great, and in my opinion, runs like a 650. Not sure on the ponies, but I think its more than he has said. Had an issue with one carb, but that was just requiring a cleaning and adjust. Now on the Kawy, (that he says was soooo great) before the suzy I had a Kawy 650 4 cylinder, and after the first 200 miles, it dogged out on the highway once. I had to have it towed to the shop after limping home on the side of the road in first gear. it was a carbed model and the throttle response dropped and the bike quit running. Also, for a four cyclinder 650, I was NOT impressed with how the Kawy ran overall. It was NOT as peppy as the Suzy twin (that was Double OHC) and seemed to start loosing its ummmp when in high gear and wanting to get on the acelleration. The suzy wanted to GO! and when I twisted the throttle she breathed and was happy to run, like a wild horse. so im not sure how he rated the Ninja as so good, when All the 'ninja' owners Ive know always had problems. my next bike, way above the kawy versy is the Vstrom. More bike overall, but if you want to "save a grand", then "step down" to the Kawy. The 23 suzy has a nice 8s. cheers.
Cam chain tensioner of the GS 450 and GS 500 is a common issue too.
Great addition thanks!
Ninja 500 is also a great option for folks looking at this category.
Edit. Wrote this at the beginning of the video.
Hahaha it sure it Jason, no worries. Sorry for the delayed responses while I was away.
Back in the day, I saw quite a number of motorcycle courier rode the GS500. It's a workhorse, nothing fancy.
At the end of the day, availability is the best ability, and if affordable then it wins - on an individual basis not a "this model is better than that model" comparison.
A $1000 available? Nowhere that I look. KBB value for 2006 (yes they were still making them) GS500f is just over $2K, for an average subject. A spotless one near me is $2800 and it's the best thing around for sale. NOTE- these bikes do have a big group of followers and supporters, and back in the day they were used not only as school bikes but track training bikes.
I haven't seen an EX 500 (hard to use the Ninja name on it when it came later and really was not one) listed in probably a couple of years - but yes is a better bike (marginally), and costs more. Where I am, and dealing with the supply chain issues around here (northwest US), used bikes are selling for MSRP ! e.g. a 2-year old Duke 390 with 1k miles on it is $5500, and we have to pay sales tax on used vehicles even for private parties so add another 10% on it. If something is listed for $1K, it doesn't run and might be in pieces.
The dilemma for me is the GS500F or EX500/Ninja 500 vs. a newer Ninja 250 or 300. They are the same price, but seems like if I can slip into a Ninja 300 with EFI, as a rider getting back into the sport I might be better off. But it would be nice to have the torque of the bigger 500cc. They just don't make many beginner/intermediate 500s any more. I'd buy a used Z400 or Ninja 400, but there aren't any on the market around here. I'd consider an MT03 but availability is even worse!
So as I lead with, I'll look at bikes on an individual basis, and if a GS500F is available for under $3K and is meticulously cared for, then it likely wins and definitely wins over better models that aren't actually for sale. Hell, I'd probably pick a SV650 over all these options, but there are only 2 listed within 100 miles of me.
This was my first bike in 97, 2 mates and me took it around Europe 2000 miles in 2 weeks , England , France,Germany , Italy, Switzerland, Czech Republic , and back to uk . They were on gsx 1000 and Honda transalp 600 and little me on my gs , it held up fine although a little underpowered.
probably the best a2 licence(max 35kw) motorbike , cheap and easy, and in the a2 range one of the fastest
For sure! I have to remind myself that in other places there are licensing requirements that make some bikes WAY better than others there haha
@@AlexSimmons11c yep for example to drive the er 5 or the cb500 you need them to be restricted , and restricted bike are rare and cost more
Just bought a mint 2004 GS500F with only 3500km on it for $2400 CAD today, so excited with this find
One of them is more like a sportbike, one of them is more like naked type. I think that comparison wrong on the "looks" side but got your point on other areas.
In Europe almost everyone had or rode one of these, it's the kind of product that everyone love to hate but at the end of the day it was a totally success for Suzuki until it was obsolete, still market for it as a first bike on a budget
They are both good bikes. If you can find either one in good condition, go for it. Bike repair is expensive, so unless you know mechanic and can DIY, spend a little more to get the one in good condition, instead of a cheaper one, that may need fixing.
Great points, thanks!
I’m going to get one of these first of the year and turn it into a adventure type bike
I’m going to put hard bags and rear luggage on it. Taller windshield
I’ll be sure to find a nice specimen to buy. Seems to be 2000 2500$ gets you a NICE one
Had one for 10 years from 2002-2012. I miss it. Never should have sold it
Cool! Wasn't expecting an RE in this vid.
I bumped into one with 12,000 miles and year 97 for $1,500 with helmet and jacket, I know it sat for like 2 years but it’s running god now
What do you think?
My 02 had carb issues because of consensation in the fuel tank ( I didn't realize at the time). The petcock filled with rust and it clogged up. I took it to the dealer where I bought it new and they told me I put bad gas in it. I always put 76 premium in it, couldn't understand what they were talking about. They charged me $700 to get it back and it soon clogged up again. The carb bowls were filled with rust. Even though I had warranty, they would not rplace the fuel tank. So I cleaned it out, got it running as good as I could and sold it. It had 10,000 miles on it then. But it had rust cancer inside of the fuel tank and the guy that bought it from me had to replace it. they need to be parked in a garage to keep condensation from the fuel tank
Sounds like you went to the wrong garage for help. Any competent mechanic should easily be able to get this bike running like new. My bike just needed a carb clean and a new petcock and was as good as new.
I bought a GS500 because what I really wanted was an air cooled 125 that would hold 60mph uphill with a headwind and they don’t exist and 250s made in the last 20 years in the UK are thin on the ground so the GS fits the bill.
It makes me laugh that it isn’t fast enough considering it will dust a 200bhp hot hatch in the UK and so that makes it faster than most of the cars on UK roads.
I definitely need to take my time shopping. I found a beat on 1980 gs500 for 1500. I found two others one is a 2009 with 3000 miles with the faring for 3000. and another one with a faring that is missing front turn signal for 2700. I would love to find bikes priced like you are talking about Alex.
Hi Eric! Sorry again for the delays responding. If you were looking at the 1980 model that is a different model of GS500 for sure, which was actually an older inline 4 model and a lot different. These GS500 models I am talking about were the 1988/89 to 2009 air cooled twin version. That's probably a big reason you see the pricing differences haha.
I bought my first bike 07 GS 500f in July last year. Seller said he took care of it. Nope. I eventually did maintenance after few months. Now Rides like new even in extreme cold temperatures. Gs500 was used for decades by police in many third world countries. They drive it to the ground and GS still runs. Another good choice is 2015 ninja 300. They are Japanese made so they will outlast all other bikes.
They're great bikes. I had several during the 90s and 00s. You do have to get the valve clearances done every 6k though, which is fiddly if you do it yourself or expensive if you get it done. Failure to do so will force petrol backwards, flooding the carbs. I've ridden other bikes and card that have done thousandss and thousands of miles without tappet checks and no problem. It seems to be a specific gs thing. Don't forget, it is a prehistoric design going back to the mid 70s, the block being the middle pair of the old GS1000 four. You should get 60 UK MPG and 90 mph flat out, neutral conditions. The quoted top speed of 110mph is nonsense so don't be disappointed if your bike won't do it.
Thats good to know as mine will only do 90.
Better than both of them is the honda cb500s. I have owned this one from new (21 years) and have covered 139000 miles. Just come back from Devon last week 600 mile trip.
I’ve had a 98 gs500 for the last 3 or so years, slowly rebuilding (as well as maintaining) bits so it’ll be “standard-plus” by the time I sell it. I think it’s been the worst motorbike I’ve ever worked on lol, don’t get me wrong though, it’s been very reliable, and it does start/move/stop when requested, it’s just a pain to work on. The handling was ok and slightly improved with wider tyres and stiffer front suspension, I see it as a commuter bike that’s trying to be sporty and kinda fails at both when compared to other bikes
I have a 89 gs500e and I enjoy it other than long rides.
The GS500 is a more flexible platform than the Ninja. I like the Ninja, and it is mechanically more advanced: but it is what it is and not as easy to upgrade or customize. For example, with a GS you can swap in a used R6 rear shock for around $100.00, and most GS500's have tubular handlebars, so you can easily swap them to adjust riding position and there are tons of aftermarket and used parts available. The later GS's were detuned from 51hp to 48hp to accommodate the European hp restricted A2 license so a simple carb re-jet can see some real gains. If you live in a northern region consider the effect of extreme-cold storage on a water-cooled bike. Where I live, you can expect at least a week or 2 of -35c every winter. Was it stored in an unheated shed? Did the previous owner prep the bike with -40c anti-freeze (coolant) or drain it? If not you can get cracks in the water-jacket, or compromise the head gasket. These are the things I considered when choosing between the 2 bikes, and I passed on a 400km 2006 Ninja that had been in storage (outdoors) for many years, and ended up buying a 480km 2005 GS500F(stored indoors for over 10 years.) Both bikes looked brand new, but I checked the coolant on the Ninja ( hydrometer) and it was only good to -15c.
I have a 2004 all stock. Carbs were rebuilt with stock jets. stock quiet pipe. It pulls extremely well onthe bottom end to about 5or 6000 RPM then it seems to run out of steam, It goes faster if you short shift it. Its also a little hard to start when cold. coughs and spits. Is this part of that detune you are speaking of? If I open up the exhaust a bit and rejet will i retain the low end and it just keeps pulling or will I lose that nice low end and still have no top end?
@@smoke05s No I think the detune was the done via the cams. Your bike is not working up to stock spec; I wouldn't modify it, until you correct the problem...maybe your mechanic mixed-up the primary and secondary mains lol.
In european markets there is another incentive to go with the gs500e/f, that being the A2 license, which limits your power to 35kW or 48hp, so if the ninja500's hit 50hp, you can't ride them with your A2 license :)
1990 GS500 first bike back in 2017, now I want Continental GT 650!
How reliable was it?
Owned my gs for 14 years. Still have it. Motor replaced at 80,000 currently 82,000 miles. I beat the piss out of it. It served as a commuter. Not a sport play bike.
I agree in the mid 90's I got a GS 500 fully faired but should have got the GPZ or CBR instead I thought the GS was not even as good as FZR 250 I had previously.
I'm looking at one on Facebook Marketplace for $2,500. Based on the USD to AUD conversion, the pricing is good.
I owned one for 3 years and beat the ever living snot out of it. Dead reliable.
In my opinion, great motorcycle with great air-cooled parallel twin engine! The only thing that needed to be done was to reduce the weight to max 150 kg with all liquids!
How do you reduce the weight?
You're a mad man sir! I haven't even seen a ninja 250 under $3000! I can find a gs500 all day under $1500. This video triggered me bro lol
I had one for 10 years and put 20000 miles on it. The carbeurator runs lean. Underpowered for its appearance. Other than that a great bike!
Gs500 does not hold good to the abuse? What are you on? It's one od the hardest bikes to kill.
Brilliant Bike, strong, fast, fun, easy to ride, cost very little to keep it lit 💯
In the UK it's at the top of the tree for the A2 License, 47bhp. The Ninja has more power, but it is a lot less forgiving in corners and has a weird spindly feel, compared to the fatter Suzuki body. They are more of a handful in practical terms. The GS is better as a starter bike, it's why many training schools use them.
very helpful. Thanks Alex.
Always welcome Eric!
Yes issues is from owner neglect true!
Sports bike my arse, good solid commuter.
Ideal first bike, low maintenance and reliable as granddads axe.
Ive got a 1997 model which had under 2000 miles when i got it and was mint! I think its a great bike but there is no way my one is getting to the 115 - 120 mph range, no way. I have only managed to get it to 90, and that was down a very long hill on the motorway. Also, it is awful in cross winds! The faired version must be far worse. However, i love the soft suspension. It eats up the worst holes on Scottish roads! Great reliable bike as long as any carb problems have been sorted. Also i changed the oil and filter after the recomended time and the old filter had disintegrated and it was like wire wool as i drained the oil. So change the oil and filter BEFORE the recomended time. And always change the filter with the oil. Only other bad thing is the lean into the handlebars. Its a stretch with the drop bars and is hurting my back. My hands and arms are going numb at night in bed!
Does a Royal Enfield holds to abuse? Hows the chasis? Does it snap out of the sudden? Engine tik right out of factory? Please…
I set out to buy either one of these 500’s back in the day but ended up going for Suzuki’s RG500 2 stroke now that was a bike
At the moment i have a Suzuki Inazuma 250 which i use to get to work on my daily 35 mile round trip. I love riding that bike. I'm only 5ft 8 and with a 30 inch inside leg it suits my short height. It gives me over 80 miles to the gallon which is excellent. Its has a very comfortable riding position and handles the road really well. The trouble is, its a bit lacking in power. I dont want a big cc bike, just something very like the Inazuma but bigger. Somewhere in the 500 - 750 size and no older then 2014. You are a very knowledgeable guy. What do you recommend?
My first road bike was a 2004 gs500f bought with a givi top box, screaming demon exhaust and a 12v socket all for $4200 australian back in 2011.
I own a 2005 gs500 and it's a treat. But no doubt a 500 Ninja is a possibility too.
Your video is very interesting to me because the naked version picture illustrating your speech is 99% matching my own model. Can you tell me were to find this picture "full size"?
As always, thank you for the very informative and nice video
Had one in 2007 for about 5 years, gs500f and the build quality was poor, frame paint fell off before it was 2 year old. Regulator rectifier also packed up around same time. Mainstand broke in 2 in first year
Damn man hahaha, sounds like you had bad luck with yours. thanks so much for letting us all know, and sorry for the delayed response!
Mines an 04 and still has frame paint and centre stand !
Hello i'm new in your channel, i think the Suzuki Bandit 400 its better than that one, but 1990 ones were insane fast. The Gs 500 is very good but in my opinion the Bandit 400 is better.
The Bandit 400 was a great bike! Actually the entire Bandit series are great bikes for the money!
Is the Gladius a good bike? How does it compare to the new SV650?
The gladius is a fine bike, it is just the previous generation of the sv650. I can't compare it with the new generation of sv, but as far as suspension and fueling it was a refinement of the first generation of sv. The question is, do the prices that new and used current generation sv650's justify themselves to be so much higher than what you score a Gladius for.
The Gladius is a great bike, it's literally just a mid-generation SV650 with a different name haha. Sorry for the late response!
Ive owned both kawasaki ninja ex500 and suzuki gs500faired. They both are the best all around everything bikes. Git either !!!!!!!
And what about the Honda CB 500 ?
jus got an 07 for 1800 bucks with 5,000 miles on it was i ripped off? the engine still looks brand new
No, sounds good.
Kawasaki was smarter. They took the ninja 900 and made a 500 twin. 4 valve w/liquid cooling....the EX500. Also previously the LTD 454 cruiser.
Suzuki took the 70s era gs400 and gave it 500cc. Still old 2 valve air cooled style.
Definately the power under dog.. About as quick as a HD 883. The front brake worked decent and handling was good.
Check my video leaning one way over.
Utterly brilliant, basic, bombproof bikes and, soooooo much fun......dare I say more so than my GSX-R 750😎
My son's first "big" bike. Was great. Nice to ride for the smaller sub 5 10 rider. Hated British winters. Original exhaust would rust through quickly. Engine heritage right back to the 450 70's twin. Ninja 500 more complex to maintain but agree. A better bike. Good job 👍
@Baz Bazdad I stand corrected. Yes 400 twin in the 70's and 450 was not until later. Cheers 👍
Thanks Pike !
If you think the GS exhaust rusted quickly the Honda CB500 rusted soooooo quickly you could hear it rot😎
Not forgetting the GS425E
Good content. Can you do a video on larger dual sport thumpers? Iam interested in your thoughts. I have owned the crf 250l and a drz 400. Even though the Honda is more modern I prefer the Suzuki drz.
Sorry for the delay, I can absolutely add it to the list! On larger dual sport thumpers there are three I usually recommend just depending on your intended purpose, it's hard to beat a DR650, and XR650, or a KLR650 just based on how you intend to ride haha.
HI Alex. Thank you for doing this video. I'm looking at a 1995 GS500e that is for sale for $500.00. What is your opinion on the 80's Honda Magna V45 750?
The Magna was an AMAZING motorcycle especially for the time, I would not hesitate to own a magna at all. It is a little more complicated in the maintenance department due to the engine configuration, but if taken care of it is a forever motorcycle, and will be a really cool piece as time goes on.
I got a 99 with 30000km ,i make some crazy turns , is the best for travel fun and corners withouy getting killed
Was the old GS charging system fragility engineered away?
Alex Simmons, What about Kawasaki er-5 comparing to gs500?
So you think my Suzuki gs500 isn't good motorcycle😥😥😥😥
I am kidding ofcourse . I am from Bulgaria, and here Suzuki gs500 are one of the most cheapest but also in a very good condition. My first motorcycle 😎
Hahaha yes it is a great bike to get for cheap and will last if you take care of it! Here most people just don't take care of them :-)
well the ninja isn't even listed on the biggest used vehicle website in my country (central europe). Was that a USA only model?
I thought it was a worldwide model but not sure, i know it was a U.S. model for over 20 years hahaha...the actual model code here was EX500 so it's possible that it was listed under a different model name in Europe as tends to happen
@@AlexSimmons11c ah yes there is ONE ex500 on there. The ad says it's a racing bike, seems somewhat strange for a 650cc 2007 naked.
Its pinkslip is expired, it hasn't been serviced in a long time, it's dinged up and also farther away from me than the gs500 which I have my eye on.
Your video was pretty interesting, thanks!
@@kepeter97 Afaik EX500 is GPZ in here.
My first bike too!
I know this video is long time ago, i have a Suzuki GS500F from 2005 on the eye with 8000 kms for €2000 here in Belgium. If i see the prices from America its so cheap for used bikes in comparison with this country xd
I have a gs500 2003 with 160,000km which runs great and im not such a responsible human being
Is the kawasaki ninja 500 not injection? I habe the gs500e 94 now for 10 years. Pretty good and reliable but i tried to revision the whole intake. What a darn as job think i got the carbs of for more than 10 times and im still not happy with it :/
No the Kawasaki Ninja 500 (ex500) was not fuel injected, it was also carbed. Unfortunately you are right, once you start messing the carbs and stock intake on a multi-carb bike it can be a pain to get it the way you want it again haha
I got the Suzuki 500 is it normal for them to tick a bit? Mine ticks and it’s definitely noticeable but only ticks when the engine is warmed up witch make me worried and think the valves need adjusting or cam chain it has good power and everything and starts right up has 21k miles
How will that engine hold up in Texas heat?
Is can I use like advisher bike?
Yes.
I found a non running gs500e and it’s only 1000$ but ima try to talk him down to 850$ 750$ would it be a good deal or not
If it is not running it really needs to be a $500 bike or less, since you'll have to put the work and money into fixing it, and can't be sure exactly what it needs yet!
@@AlexSimmons11c thanks I am going call him today and ask to see the bike if doesn’t need much I’ll make an offer
I loved mine for commuting to work, never let me down, 70mpg brilliant, until some scum bag stole it, never saw it again.
Got my gs500f for free, she hasn’t let me down yet
Its a fab bike but The footpegs are too high ...kawasaki er 500 was comfier leg ride
Here in Ecuador you can find the GS at 3200 USD (lowest price) 😂
Your not gonna find a gs for a 1000 no where I looked for over a year and ninja 500 people are wanting 22-2300
I bet GS500 would outperform royal enfield 650s