Review of 'Jesus and John Wayne' by Kristin Du Mez
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- A look at the much-discussed book from 2020.
My written review for Englewood Review of Books: englewoodrevie...
Main Idea - 1:55
Research - 3:24
Readability - 4:33
Reasonableness - 5:53
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If you don't want to read the book, there are many online TH-cam inverviews of Kristin. The best one I have found is from the University of Chicago Divinity School. You really get to see where she is coming from and the kind of person she is. She is right on target in my opinion. Great job, Joel, but you did not mention that she draws a connection between "Spiritual Leaders'" who preach hyper complementarian masculinity and the frequency of sexual abuse by those same Spiritual Leaders. Note that Donald Trump is the epitome of a serial sexual abuser, and yet the majority of "evangelicals" heartily endorse him, even to this day.
Hi, thanks for the review, I just learned of this book TODAY! In my quest for reason, I’m happy to say, this book brings me one step closer to what I believe is life changing
Very good review! I just bought the book today, and this review made me very excited for it to com in!
Thanks for review, its now on my reading list as well. Have you ever read Scott M Peck s The road less travelled ? Would enjoy your review and whether you think it can help Christians in the current social and political environment.
Certainly her premise is correct. Look at the Duggar’s cult. Same stuff. Mormons. RCC male priesthood.
Christianity in general is miles and miles away from the truth as God understands it…
How’s that Moralistic Therapeutic Deism working out for you?
Thanks Joel just got the book . I too have been exposed to many of the challenges talked about in the book but much later in life. I look forward to reading your written review. I did a search online to find some reviews your came up first. I see you are just starting your TH-cam channel? May God bless your words and transform individuals.
Thanks for checking out my humble little corner of the internet! Yes, I did just start doing this TH-cam thing within the last year. I'm glad you've found this helpful.
Great review. Intelligent, reasonable, and perceptive. Loved the analogy of the optical illusion. Once you get it, you can't unsee it. That is my reaction. As a lifelong evangelical, my wake up moment was when Obama was elected. The prayers at church supporting the president turned into prayers to bring judgment (and death) on him.
On a somewhat related topic, have you ever noticed how often John Wayne movies included a scene in which Wayne's character FINALLY loses patience with his ball-busting, mouthy woman (usually wife or x-wife) and puts her in her "place" with an efficacious flogging (which is what she REALLY wanted all along)? See "The Quiet Man" and "McLintock" for examples.
Hey Joel, thanks for another great review. I'm adding this one to my list! I was also wondering if you have a Goodreads account as I would love to keep up with what you are reading. If you'd be willing to share that info, I'd love to keep up with your reading. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Thanks Brier! You know, I keep meaning to throw my Goodreads profile link into these video descriptions and I keep forgetting (I'm not too slick with this whole social media think I guess.....)
But thanks for asking - here you go!
www.goodreads.com/user/show/16113948-joel-wentz
Nice review and thank you for not making this review about you. I believe that this is one of the most important books of our era. We must do something to change and stop Evangelicals before they destroy us and turn us into a fascist society. Yes, I think these strong words are appropriate. Also, your brevity is much appreciated.
Fantastic book. I read it in 2020 as well. Cannot recommended it enough! 🙌🏾
Perhaps you should read some books by Doug Wilson whom she unfairly characterizes as Racist. If she were up for tenure and ai was the , "Gender Studies" Scholarship I would turn her down for thin scholarship amd furtherance of what James Lindsey calls "Hoax Studies".
How about "God and Guns" sums up the religious right.
Jesus was so macho hanging on the cross.
Would the evangelicals accepted Trump if he ran as a Democrat?
Thanks I needed a good laugh today. Trump would have been the devil.👹👹
Considering Trump was a New York Democrat before he was a Republican....🤔
The answer is NO. Because they would have had a better choice on the ballot.
@@ella-vm6vf I think you’re projecting how a lefty would view trump if he ran as a republican
Oh the irony
@@robertfetrow4612 Oh the irony is right. We all justify our choices.
@@ella-vm6vf yes you did. Glad you noticed it
I had a lot of issues with this book. It was written with an agenda. She is a feminist historian and did not want to define evangelicalsm in an exact way. She says she defined it in a way that she wants to do so. The research is okay. It is more the story that she weaves from the research and that there is no nuance in that story. That was on purpose as she has noted that she, or her editors purposefully left out some evangelical views of masculinity. It is easy to pain all evangelicals as believing a fundamentalist/ patriarchal and racist view of manhood when you do not speak about the other views. There are other problems but the main issues is that she weaves a story by using unnuanced history and interpretation of that history to demonstrate her story of evangelicals. Also she lumps many different evangelicals in one pot if they use the same or similar language without really describing what these people might mean by the language they use. She also rejects views of why some evangelicals said they voted for Trump even though they did not think he was moral (better of all evils, hold one's nose) for faulty reasons. It is post modern history. Weave the story you want to tell through history in a subjective sense. Not all post modernism is bad. Especially as it is a critique of modernism but it does have large issues when it is pushed to its boundaries like in this book. If the book was more nuanced then it could have been very good. But it was not.
It is a casual book and it is her view on why Trump was elected and why Evangelicals supported him. She says it is. You might not think it is a good enough argument to show that but that is what she tried to do.
OK here me out here. I acknowledge that those other views exist.
But they don't matter. Because they never speak up.
Evangelicals will loudly and proudly declare that people should be straight up tortured and murdered for being gay or whatever, and all those 'other views' won't say a damn thing about it.
They won't get up and proclaim "We find these views abhorrent and these people do not represent us!" They'll sit there, silent, and in their silence they speak volumes.
Evangelicals voted for Trump for the same reason Liberals voted for Biden. The lesser of two evils.
One more reference from Kristin going back 4 years. th-cam.com/video/--IXro7Q5_U/w-d-xo.html'
Dude, i learned nothong aboit the book itself.
Are you going to say anything? Except for five stars wonderful fawn fawn?
Can you recommend a good college. I want to pursue christian counseling
Excellent Review!
Thanks!
If every single American read this book we would prob b able to save the Nation.
my mind is blown. I just found out about the book today, which means six months after the last poster. So you are still getting clicks!. I guess I live in a cave! I have been wrestling with what happened to my church friends but I have been out of church for several years so maybe it was a good thing after all! I have been saying the same things she has said in her book apparently to anyone that will listen or read my comments. kind of sounding the alarm. There are only two actual commands love God and love people. so when the kids got put into cages which at the time I thought was the Trump thing but it's not because Obama did it too but anyway some kid died because we starved them to death and I just had to quit all of it. I stopped being an active Republican and started pursuing other information sources and found a whole world of Truth verifiable documents audio recordings video clips of truth that were not being told to standard Christians listening to Fox. and Christian radio. I was one of those strict parents and though my kids were bailed I figured at least they could feel guilty when they went against what the rules were. And then now they are all very independent spiritually. only one denying God and another one wandering and the other two are solid along with me if you look at just me and God. not being in the congregation with accountability is driving my youngest nuts but so be it. I did that church stuff all those years and I have a different Vision now. So this has really helped me feel at least like I can handle the book and that it would be validating and very very very useful in my sorting through what exactly it is I'm here for at this point in my life. I don't want to be back in the church because they get like lukewarm water repulsive and spew out of the mouth because it's not what was expected. did it so I didn't mind going off the rails about traditional church but it's a wild west out here also. Several shows online resulting from the pandemic fell right into place with what I was needing. so my prayer and Bible reading sucks because of age and focus but I am consistent about who is my source and what priorities are when it comes down to it. thank you so much for your service and posting this on TH-cam! it definitely helps me and I know I'm not going crazy and that I'm also not the only one looking around wondering what happened to the church. Can you imagine how God feels? he showed me the pandemic was about exposing the hearts of men so that we could see that the so-called church was unhealthy but to have the history of this is fantastic and very useful. I can't wait to go on like you have and research the other off shoots of it. Maybe you should start a book club! online of course :-) many thanks. be well. stay safe. Eyes up. keep marching.
That excellent book nails why most reasonable persons are not comfortable with "evangelicalism" today. It is ugly and repulsive, full of hate and attempts at deception.
That overstates the case..
This book is full of leftist rhetoric. I couldn’t get past the first chapter then just skimmed to see if it got past the Trump trashing.
Hahaha you got shit, sorry baby you are biased.
She is. And increasingly so. Those who lean that way will no doubt find her book appealing.
Sure, it's rhetoric. Lots of things are. But, is it also true? And if so, what should we do about it?
Shouldn't it be obvious that Christians follow Christ, and that he wouldn't bomb anyone? If that's obvious, why are Christians more prone to endorse war than non-Christians? Shouldn't they be more prone to build and preserve peace?
Your one-chapter read and skim and name-calling are pretty weak as a counterargument. I think Kristin has pointed out something important here, a sad irony.
I think each person needs to consider carefully whether being Christian is more or less important than winning wars, and whether "winning" a war while reminding Christ-like, is even possible.