Rob Liefeld: A Love Him or Hate Him Artist - Comic Tropes (Episode 3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- Chris takes a look at Rob Liefeld's artwork in an issue of New Mutants, listing the tropes you would be likely to see in any of his comic books. Each time he sees a trope, he eats a hot pepper.
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After biting a radioactive pepper, he became the Tangy Pepper Man
With pouches, grimaces, and non-gun-looking guns aplenty. And his feet disappeared.
And the pepper became Comic Trope Pepper ™
Doctor Pepper
@Monotech2.0 It's sad that you'd go down the comments copy pasting the same attention seeking reply in all of them.
@Monotech2.0 The point of commenting is making a comment. Not spamming other people's replies to get attention. If people want to acknowledge you they will, what you're doing is pointless, annoying and leaves a bad impression.
The sad fact is that those peppers got him twice. Humans can't brake down the heat in our digestive tract so it hits you again later on... poor dude
Feretchan It's true.
Kinda like having a reflash after getting pepper sprayed
Hurts going in🥵, Hell coming out.😭💩
@@ComicTropes your poor, poor taste buds and anus.
I used to cook fajitas a lot. Loved putting a lot of grilled jalapenos in. But I'd be throwing flames in the toilet. Better to go 1:3 jalapeno:bell than 2:2.
It's a good thing he ate the peppers once per trope, otherwise he might be dead!
on the first page
"No wait, there's a little flavour..."
AND THAT FLAVOUR IS DEATH.
Death AND pain
In this video we see some poor sod torture himself while reading Rob Liefeld comicbooks.
But I repeat myself.
and also he ate those hot peppers at the same time, amazing.
This is the most inhumane suicide attempt I've ever seen.
why are you suffering for liefeld's crimes!!! 😭😭😭
What he said!
Why do we all?
He is the comic book messiah!
Hurts just as much as all those women's broken spines
@bastard At least they’ve got massive fucking legs and abs.
The chiropractors in a Rob liefeld’s universe have the greatest business
After the video was done he spent ten hours in the bathroom screaming "I'M SORRY!!!" lol
I know right! there was an inferno coming out of his bunghole 🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂
Then spreading the heat with every wipe.
"The seed is powerful."
The juvenile in me chuckled quite heartily.
That's what she said! Ha! Ha!
Jon Arryn moment
I've heard of suffering for your art, but suffering for _someone else's_ art? That's insane!
Fair play to ya.
Rob:(doodles a slade rip-off, releases it)
Comic readers: eh
Actual good writer: Hey do you mind if I see that for a sec?
Rob: sure.
AGW: (adds traits to DP people actually like, releases it)
General audiences:(loves it)
Rob: hey guys look at this badass and hilarious character I made. Isn’t he so funny?
Why is Rob Liefeld in the replies?
Pretty sure the same thing happened with Supreme. Leifeld made a character, it was meh, a good creator came along and made them way better.
Nailed it!
@Monotech2.0 YES> SAD FOR YOU, not the comics industry.
@Monotech2.0 many 90s artists are pretty painful to look at now. All those texture and shadow lines from Everyone trying to be Todd McFarlane or Scott Williams just made every book look scratchy. Almost the sole reason the art did a 180 and got minimalist today. Art from 78-88 was so clean by comparison.
Note to self: DON'T risk your health and taste buds for Rob Liefeld.
"Health" They're peppers
@@JayFreely and?
@@dante_0962 Peppers are one of the healthiest foods on the planet, and also of note is that "Hot/Spicy" is not a taste bud.
"some random guy punishes himself for some other random guy's ugly art style"
@Monotech2.0 Idk, I don't read comic books anymore.
@Monotech2.0 Considering the great artists working today and the sheer breadth of content out there, that makes absolutely no sense to me.
@@chockabout Really? Have you seen the majority of artwork in Marvel's recent comics? Or picked up an issue of Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, Ms. Marvel, IDW's latest GI Joe run or that god-awful Matt Fraction Hawkeye series?
@Monotech2.0 it is sad. Don't worry you'll find better comic/illustrators and artists
@Monotech2.0 it was more interesting.
I’ve been collecting comics since 1977, and drawing professionally since the late eighties. I have always loved that Rob Liefeld completely had his own style in an industry full of clones. Like Jack Kirby and Berni Wrightson, Rob’s work is always immediately identifiable. I also loved his super dynamic layouts. I found his work to really embody the fun and action that comics were all about for me.
The things you do for us. We don't deserve it.
You definitely deserve it. I plan to do some more things like this in the future. I just want it to be thematically appropriate whenever possible.
@@ComicTropes this really feels like Jesus imaging I can’t be the the only one right?
That was surprisingly informative in regard to peppers. And Rob Liefeld, of course; never gonna forget that man.
The fact that you kept your channel going with this kind of self punishment is a testament to you, Chris.
HahA! Love these! Having such a blast going through your past vids. There's a real appreciation for these creators behind all the ridicule. Keep them coming!
Oh yeah. I absolutely love this stuff.
@@ComicTropes it tells. This is my favorite channel on TH-cam. You have renewed my interest in comics.
Watching you eating those peppers nearly made me die...laughing! 😆
@@ComicTropes Watching this in 2020. So did you blow out the ol' o-ring? Did you end up having to replace your toilet?
Rob Liefeld's style is a piss-poor imitation of Arthur Adams artwork. The end. His comics sold well because of speculators buying multiple copies.
Somehow, the more recent the comics are, the uglier his drawings are, how's that even posible?! He should be getting BETTER, NOT THE OPPOSITE!
I'm a professional fine artist and back in the late '90s, in high school and university, I wrote and drew a little indie comic series. I like to think my work improved over those 5-6 years, mainly out of sheer repetition. Draw the same characters over and over and you refine your style very quickly. But unless you're pushing yourself to improve, being critical of possible shortcuts in your work that weaken your style, those shortcuts gradually become the norm, your baseline. It's an easy trap to fall into because of the repetition, and it requires constant monitoring to avoid.
@@MadTheDJ 工〇Ɯƨ:
Don't be a nut **_thwuck_** **_thwuck_**
In a rut **_thwuck_** **_thwuck_**
〔but, by all means〕
Be crazy.
Indeed,he's gotten worse over time. I always tell people who want to work in the comic book industry that if Liefeld can do it,so can you!
That's what I tell myself every day!
this is how i feel reading a rob liefield comic. like i don't eat the peppers but the effects of them still happen to me just by reading it
You forgot the "can't draw capes or folds" thing. Almost every cape he draws looks like plumes or feathers where folds are supposed to be. Most annoying thing ever.
your mistake, a plume can be found in the most sophisticated of material, around the air of a hero, these gestures are unending, unlike your damp drape fold
I think you mean “can’t draw”
series of tubes
PVC cape.........................900 rupees, Armor +xx
@Monotech2.0 yes, I think that the digitally drawn comics look amazing
I like that Rob is self-aware of his tropes, so he created a character The Pouch recently.
Dude its criminal you don't have more subs and views. Going to post this around on facebook
That's very kind of you. Thanks!
Drawings lines on everything except things that should have them like shafts or spider-mans webing.
Liefeld Spider-Man isone of the worst rendition. He always had him arching his shoulders and his eyes were never where Parker's eyes would have been. I think only his rendition of Caps pecs is worse than his Spider-Man.
Even after 4 years still my favourite Comic Tropes video
Was never a fan of Liefled, but I do consider him the quintessential 90’s comic artist. You put his tropes on full display here. Liked the pepper per trope game, way to take one for the team! Entertaining and observant episode. Thanks.
Dude, your sacrifice just earned a suscriber
Mvillano13 Thanks.
Shatterstar's cape flapping like in a wind storm but he's in a living room lol plus missing pony tail in panel but it's back in panel 4 blowing in opposite direction of cape still indoors
Were editors not invented yet??
Comic books: What the hell is a editor?
Describing a pepper as... "peppery"... well, you nailed it, it certainly is that LOL. BTW water only spreads capsaicin around.
I couldn't concentrate and think straight! I learned my lesson (sort of).
I just found this channel and I'm loving it! I appreciate you staying impartial to Rob's art. Lots of people hate him nowadays but I feel people treat him a little unfairly.
This man is the definition of manliness. You, my man, have risen to a higher pedestal in my books.
This was the first video of yours I've ever seen. Pretty cool. Good memories too.
RoProArt Thanks for giving it a watch.
18:31 that moment when you realize you spent money on a Liefeld comic
I'll only spend money on Liefeld comics that I can get at bargain bins for back issues at Comic Stores. I would never spend an exorbitant amount of money on a comic by Liefeld.
"Every time we encounter a Rob Liefeld trope I will eat a pepper."
So you have chosen self-immolation.
I had to go back a re-watch this one. I always crack up around 17-19 min. mark when you start really hearing the pain in your voice off camera. 😂 This video probably took all day to make.
I have to say, the “too many teeth” trope is because that’s what his teeth look like
More teeth than the Osmund Family
I feel like Liefeld falls into the category of artists that look like their art(and that's not a good thing in his case).
I honestly kinda like Liefeld’s art. Some of it isn’t that good, others are technically bad but I still like them for their charming 90s styles, others are bad but I still like them anyways, and some are genuinely good.
I'm amazed you're alive after this.
ClockworkKanella I didn't learn my lesson. I tried hot sauces for the Swamp Thing review.
Rob Liefeld to the pain?! Brave man. I wouldn't do this. That feeling is courage... courage and impending explosive diarrhea
This was certainly entertaining but hardly necessary and the point could still have been made just as effectively in a myriad of other ways. You don't need to risk your health for Rob Liefeld.
Blows my mind this guy doesn’t have a million plus subs. Love this channel. One of my top five.
The crazy part is, Major X - his new book - proves that he hasn't learned a thing or improved his drawing skills in 25 years.
I only got to the jalapeno when I started yelling 'God no, love yourself!' at every bite. You are a stronger man than most of us. Great video, loved it, i worry about you.
so much Youngblood's disease in this video! Love it, love this topic, subbed!
It’s sad that after 30 years Liefield still has not learned the basics of drawing.
I remember reading comic books in the 90s, loved Liefelds work, but then I started to read other comic books and quickly noticed how anatomy and proportions work. yes, Rob Liefeld is a good introductory comic book artist and many people get introduced to comics through his artwork. I agree with the tropes, its his thing. I don't fault him for it, but yes he does have a certain style that is very very repetitive. My favorite artist is Jim Lee.
Dude I’ll say it again, this channel is a treasure to all who love comics. Keep going!
I swear to god the first series of Jojo's Bizarre Adventures was spoofing Rob Liefeld as much as it was Fist of the North Star.
I've been to Pike's Market a few times & had no idea there was a hidden comic book store there.
Spicy Pepper Technology has come a long way since you posted this video. The Ghost Chili is now barely in the Top 10 hottest.
I recommend full-fat cottage cheese, cream cheese, whipping cream, or sour cream for reducing pepper burn.
I mean with Jonathan you could be correct
You are the hero we need
I love the fact that you used a parody of the Red Hot Chili Peppers instead of actually using RHCP
I love that it's a crazy gimmick video without any click bait title.
"Today I'm examining the works of Rembrandt. For every trope I'll squeeze a hot pepper into my eye."
You can hate Rob Liefeld as an artist, but in interviews he comes across as a pretty cool guy.
Liefeld's success is the biggest comic book mystery of all time. Holy crap he is SO BAD.
Kids in the '90s loved his over-the-top macho style
@@porsche911sbs I'm a 90's kid and this looked horrible. Maybe that's why manga took off.
Also he didn't look to bad when he had help by an actual talented artist. Walt Simonson helped him out alot and McFarland inked most of his covers.
@@porsche911sbs No, we didn't. The people who hire artists love him for some reason, but the kids were making fun of that shit from day 1.
I wouldn’t buy any comic with his art. I thought it was awful.
I actually started copying Liefeld's art style when I was in HS bec. he'a the easiest to copy. Then my artwork evolved thru out the years.
As a comic artist, I can attest: forgetting stuff from panel to panel happen. If you don't put in something, then you make a note of it in your head. But each time you come back to it, you just get used to it not being there, so that becomes what's normal in your head.
Having grown up on Liefeld art, I have s soft spot for his work. I can admit it isn't very good. But the memories I have.
How the hell could you plagiarize something and still end up doing a bad anatomy job?
have some yogurt next time you try the pepper method
omophagia Will do.
Love the content. Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. Keep up the good work!
Hell of a finale! You couldn't pay me enough to eat a ghost pepper.
This video was so great! But omg when you ate that whole chile pequin I winced in pain for you.
I learned my lesson.
Lmfao when he brought up the peppers I was like "Oh shit, he gonna die"
Liefeld is one of my perennial objects of hate in comics. It's like looking at wet coffee grounds in the trash. I feel bad for anyone who "learned" how to draw by looking at his stuff.
I like how he has Red Hot Chili Peppers in the background wile getting the peppers
My friend grows Reapers, and he eats everything up to ghost raw/whole with little issue...
When I saw you have issue with the jalapeno, I knew we were in for a treat.
Comic critiques aside, those peppers looked delicious. I love hot food.
Isn't it time people stopped suffering Rob's art? :D Your dedication is amazing. My mouth was burning just watching you.
Dude, you're my new favorite TH-camr 😂😂
for future reference, if you ever want to torture yourself with peppers again, milk is the best for helping take the edge off the hot
This is awesome lol nobody can complain about you calling them out on their BS because you definitely pay the ultimate price. 😂
Great episode. How I wish Iron Chef Japan was on DVD.
I came here almost exactly three years later and I wasn't even planning it!
I, too, liked Liefeld back in the days.
Then, I started drawing myself - a year later, I couldn't ignore the weak points in his drawing technique.
Also, at the time I had the impression that he was de-evolving as an artist, that he was growing increasingly sloppier as time went by.
Robert Liefeld always makes bands around the wrist. Why? Because he has no idea what to do.
I like coming back to these older videos to see it how this show has progressed over the years. Watching you eat all those peppers made me think you must have had a long painful time in the bathroom the next day LOL
"I don't know if you can see, but my eyes are already watering." That's not the peppers, Chris. ;)
here in 2019 going through the back catalog waiting for the "keep reading comics" origin.
I am really glad you couldn't find a Naga Viper pepper or anything like that.
What's mindboggling is that at 12:38 he had a perfect reason to hide the feet of the guy in the front (since he already successfully hid the feet of the other guys) yet he actually does not. Instead he fucking puts them in the other panel where they are just ruining the whole panel :D
he spittin straight facts
"Rob, have you had any formal art training?"
instant reply - "No."
I think that says it all.
Was he trying to warn us?
I was sold at.. "let's go buy some comics" lol. With regards to Liefeld.. I always thought "he's no McFarlane".
Crazy how consistent this channel has been since this early on. Started strong and got even stronger along the way
Late comment, but thumbs up for the classic Iron Chef reference alone. Thanks for your work, Chris
Lmfao! Thank you, your shows are awesome!
You are a hero sir, omg
Hahaha, I love how for the market montage you used Jon Daly's fake Pepper song, that was fantastic. Abracadabraliiifooorniaaa...
The one thing I learned from this video is not to eat ghost 👻 peppers 🌶
I am a Rob Liefeld fan, there was something very new and cool about his artwork. He also influenced a lot of artists like Matt Broom & Steve Platt. Rob was influenced by Art Adams & Barry Smith and probably Frank Frazetta. But until I watched this video, I thought his only trope were the small feet. Keep up the good work, I'll keep watching .
*Chris takes a look at Rob Liefeld's artwork in an issue of New Mutants, listing the tropes you would be likely to see in any of his comic books. Each time he sees a trope, he eats a hot pepper.*
Why on Earth fella would you torture yourself eating hot peppers after recognizing every Rob Liefield drawn error??! Thats just mad. Given how bad his art is!
You referencing to Chairman Kaga made my day. I loved that show.
Rob Liefield is one of the reeasons I gace up buying comics for about 10 years. I just remember being utterly confused about what was happening on the page - add this to Maximum Clonage, etc and I'd had enough
I honestly feel bad for Rob Liefeld. Yes, in my opinion he is at fault for not developing his art to a more sophisticated level, but the amount of hate this guy gets just doesn't seem right. I, as well as others may find it difficult to grasp how he became famous for his comics, but the fact of the matter is, people out there do like his art, otherwise he would not be where he's at in life. This all just goes to demonstrate the subjectivity of art.
I think most of the ire Rob Liefeld gets for his art has to to with the fact that he earns millions of dollars for being sup-par, and has actively influenced a lot of young artists who regarded his work as something to aspire to.
The analogous to Liefeld is Limp Bizkit and Adam Sandler. Completely juvenile in its art but kids think it's cool especially when you don't see the stupidity. I worked at a Limp Bizkit concert and the most people you saw was 10-14 year olds. Limp Bizkit is essentially below average rap on top of below average metal guitars, but you see Fred Durst backwards hat and talking about nookie and kids eat it up. Same thing with Adam Sandler movies, shit quality, but kids fucking love it for some reason.
He knew how to draw, just didn't care to learn everything their was about anatomy. He had a style and he was with McFarlane who you can see inspiration in some of his panels. He also created deadpool, interesting designs, experimentation, and mistakes come from Liefeld but to not a lot of people can do what he does at the time it takes him to do it.
Round "He also created Deadpool..." Came on! Great shit! People talk about deadpool like he was Batman, but no, its just a miserable copy of deathstroke...
Luis Fernando Barbieri AND Spawn is a miserable copy of Spider-Man and ghost rider but we don’t give liefeld hate because he’s an artistic legend? Rob like Todd knew what was cool to draw, these were superheros after all.
"Should've gotten water first" Water doesn't do shit for spice lol, what you needed was milk or peanut butter my dude.
nothing helps spice full stop. it's not something that can be reversed
Great video. Looking forward to binging on the rest of your stuff.
This is better than the gin. Highly entertaining. Thanks for the giggles.
This deserves so much more views!
Had to subscribe man, this is a unique thing and I'm going to be completely honest, I passed over your vids a couple times in my suggested video section because I assumed it was just another video making fun of Liefeld's tropes, which is fine lol but you definitely bring something more interesting and.. fun, would be the word I would use to describe it. Good luck to you sir!
Ace's Sketchbook Thanks for checking it out.
Your pain is the most entertaining part of this vid!