Great demonstration. I'm very surprised how simple these are, no wonder they are so cheap. I expected more inside the lock but I guess it works just fine.
Great view inside these things. No wonder it takes a lot of force to turn them open. All those parts pushing against the shackle, and the tailpiece has to drag that long shackle.
Remarkably simple design. I was expecting just one movement component as opposed to the two shown in this lock. So how much force do you think would be required to overcome the blocking component? Would the shackle move if that was overcome?
It would really hard to get leverage. Even if you could and did manage to break both parts that keep the shackle in place I still dont think it would open. I think it would all just get jammed up inside of it. there isnt much room in them for stuff to get out of the way for the shackle to move.
@@BoredLockpicker So a brute force attack like cutting or drilling one would be the most likely method to get past one. The disc shell does appear a little thin compared to some padlocks.
@@gary_rumain_you_peons yea. this brand has a brass cylinder so if the cylinder isnt against a wall drilling it would be easy. some of them are steel with would be harder to drill. I know a guy that works at a storage place. He takes a dremel and cuts basically a plus sign across the front or back depending on what way its facing and just takes he cylinder out. the other kind of dirty secret about storage places is the hasp are super shitty and some are even made to be easily replaced and you can just pop them off without evening messing with the lock if you were up to no good. my preferred way to get these off is just with a 20v angle grinder with a 4 and half inch (114mm ; ) ) cut off wheel. there is one place I go to that wont let you cut them. there I either drill the plug all the out with a 5/16 or 3/8 drill bit and use a screw driver push that piece that moves the pawl and then move the shackle with my hand. if they're locked on with the keyway facing the wall I put a 1 inch hole saw on my drill and stick the guide bit in the hole in the back of them and just take the guts out. only had to do that twice though.
@@BoredLockpicker At the very start of this vid, there looks to be an anti-drill spinner covering the keyway on the middle lock. Is that correct? However, what about the metal body itself? Not around the curved edges that also has the shackle inside it but just to either side of the cylinder. There's a nice flat section there. On the back, there's more. Is the metal in that part of the lock very thick? Good point about the hasp.
Gary Rumain it is an anti drill thing. I haven’t had to drill an abus before but other locks with those aren’t a big deal. You just bend them off with a flathead and pliers. Not much to them. The metal on the is the same all the way around. I need to make another video cutting on with my angle grinder. It cuts them like butter
Hello @bored lock picker I have an Abus disc lock and none of the keys that came with it will open it or turn in the the lock anymore. Kind of like when you were trying to turn your lock without the plate holding everything down. Can I open it without cutting it off?
John Q. Citizen if the key won’t open it you’ll have to cut it. You won’t be able to pick it or anything if the key won’t even open it. Try lubricating it and see if the key works.
These things fail so much. I have to put direct pressure on the latch on one to get it to open. But another i have just wont release so the dang key is just stuck inside. Any ideas?
I've never seen one. I actually doubt it exist because its actually the key retracting the shackle not just moving something out of the way so the shackle can be retracted
@@BoredLockpicker Ok, I thought the ability to remove the key is a characteristic of the core, such as the position of the key within the core. So you don't think a non key retaining core would be put into a disk lock, because in a disc lock the core moves the shackle directly - instead of releasing the shackle from a latch in which case the person (or a spring) would move the shackle. shackle by hand myself
@@jkyoft78 you got it. The key only comes out in the home position but on these locks if you turn it to home to remove it you’re also dragging the shackle back closed.
Why has my Disc Padlock seized. The key goes in & slightly turns the barrel without turning the bolt. Then it us hard to turn the key back and remove the key from the Disc padlock. This one is made by Silverline.
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Great demonstration. I'm very surprised how simple these are, no wonder they are so cheap. I expected more inside the lock but I guess it works just fine.
Yep really not much to them.
neat to see what's going on under the hood on that type lock. thanks for sharing.
Thanks for checking it out!
Great clean surgery and nice demo - thank you.
drill press worked pretty well. I wasnt sure what was going to happen lol
This was helpful, thanks for sharing
thanks for checking out
Great view inside these things. No wonder it takes a lot of force to turn them open. All those parts pushing against the shackle, and the tailpiece has to drag that long shackle.
yep. I've been to a couple calls with broken keys in them because they can be so hard to turn especially after sitting outside in florida for awhile
Great job my friend.
thanks my man!
Cool angle, thanks for sharing!
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Good job, bud 👍😎🤠
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thanks, mine has jammed shut. so interesting to see the inside.
thanks for checking it out
Very cool video my friend👍😊👍😊😎😎
thanks man!
The 26/70 looks beefy. Where you made the cut, is it actually solid like that throughout? (I only have a 20/80 and can't see inside that far)
They’re the same thickness. Look at where the shackle goes in and that’s his thick the metal is. Angle grinder cuts all of them easily
@@BoredLockpicker I'm looking around 17 seconds in. It has a bit of solid metal in it. Do all of them have that, or just the abus
ganzonomy it’s. Its not solid it’s just that carriage that guys shackle. It’s thin. It’s just flat looking because the top is cut off.
Remarkably simple design. I was expecting just one movement component as opposed to the two shown in this lock.
So how much force do you think would be required to overcome the blocking component? Would the shackle move if that was overcome?
It would really hard to get leverage. Even if you could and did manage to break both parts that keep the shackle in place I still dont think it would open. I think it would all just get jammed up inside of it. there isnt much room in them for stuff to get out of the way for the shackle to move.
@@BoredLockpicker So a brute force attack like cutting or drilling one would be the most likely method to get past one. The disc shell does appear a little thin compared to some padlocks.
@@gary_rumain_you_peons yea. this brand has a brass cylinder so if the cylinder isnt against a wall drilling it would be easy. some of them are steel with would be harder to drill. I know a guy that works at a storage place. He takes a dremel and cuts basically a plus sign across the front or back depending on what way its facing and just takes he cylinder out. the other kind of dirty secret about storage places is the hasp are super shitty and some are even made to be easily replaced and you can just pop them off without evening messing with the lock if you were up to no good. my preferred way to get these off is just with a 20v angle grinder with a 4 and half inch (114mm ; ) ) cut off wheel. there is one place I go to that wont let you cut them. there I either drill the plug all the out with a 5/16 or 3/8 drill bit and use a screw driver push that piece that moves the pawl and then move the shackle with my hand. if they're locked on with the keyway facing the wall I put a 1 inch hole saw on my drill and stick the guide bit in the hole in the back of them and just take the guts out. only had to do that twice though.
@@BoredLockpicker At the very start of this vid, there looks to be an anti-drill spinner covering the keyway on the middle lock. Is that correct?
However, what about the metal body itself? Not around the curved edges that also has the shackle inside it but just to either side of the cylinder. There's a nice flat section there. On the back, there's more. Is the metal in that part of the lock very thick?
Good point about the hasp.
Gary Rumain it is an anti drill thing. I haven’t had to drill an abus before but other locks with those aren’t a big deal. You just bend them off with a flathead and pliers. Not much to them. The metal on the is the same all the way around. I need to make another video cutting on with my angle grinder. It cuts them like butter
Hello @bored lock picker I have an Abus disc lock and none of the keys that came with it will open it or turn in the the lock anymore. Kind of like when you were trying to turn your lock without the plate holding everything down. Can I open it without cutting it off?
John Q. Citizen if the key won’t open it you’ll have to cut it. You won’t be able to pick it or anything if the key won’t even open it. Try lubricating it and see if the key works.
@@BoredLockpicker thanks man
These things fail so much. I have to put direct pressure on the latch on one to get it to open. But another i have just wont release so the dang key is just stuck inside. Any ideas?
In the course of time; does the action on these locks ever smooth out from use? Very gritty action even when new.
If anything they get worse. I get a lot of calls to cut these after peoples keys break in them
I am looking for a non-key retaining circle lock - can you point towards a company that may make them? I am having a hard time finding one.
I've never seen one. I actually doubt it exist because its actually the key retracting the shackle not just moving something out of the way so the shackle can be retracted
@@BoredLockpicker Ok, I thought the ability to remove the key is a characteristic of the core, such as the position of the key within the core.
So you don't think a non key retaining core would be put into a disk lock, because in a disc lock the core moves the shackle directly - instead of releasing the shackle from a latch in which case the person (or a spring) would move the shackle.
shackle by hand
myself
@@jkyoft78 you got it. The key only comes out in the home position but on these locks if you turn it to home to remove it you’re also dragging the shackle back closed.
@@BoredLockpicker So there is no way to make a disk lock that is non key retaining...this is killing me!
@@jkyoft78 I’m sure there’s a way. I’ve been locksmithing for 7 years and have never seen one. Even the rekeyable ones
Why has my Disc Padlock seized. The key goes in & slightly turns the barrel without turning the bolt. Then it us hard to turn the key back and remove the key from the Disc padlock. This one is made by Silverline.
Corrosion maybe. I cut seized ones off a lot. They aren’t great locks
My key broke inside the lock just like that what can I do to remove it ?
I would use a 20v angle grinder with a 4 and half inch cut off wheel and cut it off. I do a few a month for customers.
Neat!
Ive cut them apart before but never so cleanly lol
Very nice My Friend
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@@BoredLockpicker its a bit late of an anwser lol
@@lockmania-locks hey my friend! I was going through a few of my channels. There was lot of comments I missed. I’m trying now to reply to them with a period so they clear out of unread tab and I can hopefully do a better job keeping up with them going forward.
@@BoredLockpicker on All of My 3 channels i check for comments a few times a Day but one time a Day is enough :)
@@lockmania-locks tough to do running two businesses
I knew this was coming. Don't ask me how I knew. :)
lol
Good lock even with it busted open, still hard to open.
rob smith yea the tail piece doesn’t stay seated without the plate over it
So I guess there is no way of getting a lubricant inside if haven’t been used in a while
spray into the key way and also if you can spray under the shackle into the body.
“little bit of surgery” ;)
SE Lock and Key got a new drill press so for a few days everything looked like it need a hole lol
Jayson!!!!
Why have u never told me about this guy? Hes awesome
Didn't these used to be called moon locks?
I've never heard them called that before but I've only been around the lock world for about 8-9 years
Tell me u have x-ray w/o telling me
Thanks
Could you make a video like this also showing the insides of a discus combination lock and how they look and work also?
If I run across one I’ll cut it open. Don’t see them often
@@BoredLockpicker oh there's tons of them out there man but thanks I would appreciate it and love to watch the video for sure!