Long time since I bought a proper running sneakers and when I recieved the Mizuno's, I honestly thought the box was empty because the package felt there was nothing in it just the paper inside shaking🤣.. besides that am super impressed with the Neo Vista, properly comfortable booty style fit, didn't even need to tighten the laces that much, just barely. Midsole felt super soft and cushy but is still responsive.
Problem is, for basically the same price you might as well get the new one! I’m hoping to grab them when they come back out. So hard to get the top ASICS shoes, they just sell out so quick
I wonder how long the bounciness of the EVA base foam in the Neo Vista will last compared to the Peba base foam of the Superblast which seems to get better with age. Something to consider when it comes to price difference. Also EVA foam is known to harden up during colder temperatures.
I have over 130 miles on my neo vistas and still going strong! I was a little worried about the outsole because it felt soft, but it is holding up like a normal shoe as well. I anticipate getting around 300 good miles out of the midsole and 400 miles out of the outsole which is pretty average wear for me. I think DoR might be a bit harder on their shoes.
Interesting that you mentioned large the price difference. In Australia these shoes are exactly the same price. Sure it’s a smaller market in Oz, but would be keen to hear from Mizuno why.
Both shoes are way overpriced in Australia at AUD$320 but for me, Superblast 2 represents better value and probably durability. I'd go SB2. Asics is using their premier super midsole foam. If Mizuno used their premier super midsole foam in a similar built shoe as the Superblast with perhaps a less aggressive rocker as in the Rebellion Pro I'd be very interested. The Rebellion Flash 2 is very good but if they super stacked it using their top tier foam and called it the Rebellion Flash Max then you would cater to that running demographic that loves those high stacked performance shoes.
I bought those after I tried the Neo Vista's bc I thought they'd be the same kind of shoes and they definitely run/feel differently. I think the bootie upper on the NV fits better than the traditional upper from the Flash 2. I don't wear my shoe laces with the NV and with the Flash's the upper didn't fit well enough even when I laced them as tight as possible. I had to return the Flash 2's bc they were putting pressure on my left arch too. They're lighter than the NV's but they don't feel as good as the NV imo.
@@gingram2 fair play. I have quite a wide foot with a high arch so they fit me perfectly but they do cause me to pronate a bit due to the narrow heel. They feels quite similar to the Rebellion Pro 1 and are more aggressive than the NV but I love them personally.
I love the flash 2 as well. Though similar to you I get mild pronation unless I am running at some speed in them, which is fine as they feel pretty aggressive. I feel if they improved the fit around the sides of the ankle it would probably prevent this and allow me to run a bit longer in them without discomfort the following days, I can only really do 10k in them happily.
I may well have tried the NV, but couldn't find it in my size at below full price. I ended up paying $150 for the SB2 thanks to Asics' 25% military/veteran discount. I wanted something to rotate with the Ride 17 and Mach 6, and either probably would have been fine.
both shoes offer the same end game just through different dynamics, my SuperBlast are awesome but my neo vista can do the same its that idea of firm midsole with a soft layer vs soft shoe with plate.
I dont really know where these shoes sit in rotation anymore. Race day shoes? Nope, Adidas AP3 for me. Speed workout? Nope. Adidas takuni Sen 9 or 10. LSD? Asics Kayano or Nimbus are as good for the task and cheaper. Daily trainer? Nope, Boston 12 or Novablast are cheaper and can do the job as good. The only use case I can see for Superblast is Long run at marathon goal race pace, which i used it for. I am a shoes junkie but I am lost what to do with Neo Vista other than being an expensive LSD trainer.
That just shows how different we all are. I would happily use the AP3 as a daily trainer (or my one, do-it-all shoe), before I would even consider the Boston 12, or NB 2 and 3. I like the Boston for hill sprints, but find it way too uncomfortable and clunky for anything else.
@@Feanaro5503 It depends on your expectation for a daily trainer and also the purpose of it . USD180 for a daily trainer it better be good for that price. I have no issue with Novablast, Pegasus 35, Beacon and even Reebok floatride energy to just log miles in zone 2 pace.
The Superblast is definitely a longer run shoe for me at any pace. The protection alone makes it an easy choice. I have the MS3, Novablast 4 too but wouldn't use either for a longer run. I see it as a training partner to my Edge Paris.
NV = Soft, Bouncy, slow, unstable, little bit heavier, Questionable durability. ( Slow eazy run better) NB = Bouncy, Fast, Slightly firmer, stable, lighter. 200km++ and just Slightly damaged outsole, nothing more (Daily run, faster pace better)
@@AS-rj5qt it's depend whats you prefer. If you like softer and bouncier but Slightly unstable feeling, go for NV. But, if you want something stable to help you propering your landing. And help reduce your ankle fatigue. But Slightly firmer. Go for NB.
I think the issue people have with the price of the superblast is a bit confusing. You get a shoe that can do everything, basically like having a whole rotation for 200 quid 🤔
For someone who don't know how to "proper" run or landing. Yes. Its drawback. But, for someone who already used to or even mastered in it. Tall stack help to bounce back and reduce muscle fatigue over distance while runing. For Price, it's fair. I ran a lot and try ton of shoes and never felt any below 100$ shoes give me similar benefits with 200$++ shoes.
Long time since I bought a proper running sneakers and when I recieved the Mizuno's, I honestly thought the box was empty because the package felt there was nothing in it just the paper inside shaking🤣.. besides that am super impressed with the Neo Vista, properly comfortable booty style fit, didn't even need to tighten the laces that much, just barely. Midsole felt super soft and cushy but is still responsive.
Topo Athletic Specter 2, the other full Peba no plate trainer.
Are the Topo Athletics a 0 drop?
@@gingram2 Not 0 drop, low drop 4mm
sounds like an almost identical running feeling on the SB 1 and SB 2
Problem is, for basically the same price you might as well get the new one! I’m hoping to grab them when they come back out. So hard to get the top ASICS shoes, they just sell out so quick
Personally the sb2 feels much more bouncier
I wonder how long the bounciness of the EVA base foam in the Neo Vista will last compared to the Peba base foam of the Superblast which seems to get better with age. Something to consider when it comes to price difference. Also EVA foam is known to harden up during colder temperatures.
Doctors of Running say the Neo Vista starts losing its resilience at 100 miles and becomes softer.
I have over 130 miles on my neo vistas and still going strong! I was a little worried about the outsole because it felt soft, but it is holding up like a normal shoe as well. I anticipate getting around 300 good miles out of the midsole and 400 miles out of the outsole which is pretty average wear for me. I think DoR might be a bit harder on their shoes.
@@markm3747That was just one person’s opinion, Matt
@@markm3747 that surprised me when he said that. I weigh 180 lb/82 kg and run shuffley like nick and mine are still very bouncy at 185 miles
Great to see Nick back!
Interesting that you mentioned large the price difference. In Australia these shoes are exactly the same price. Sure it’s a smaller market in Oz, but would be keen to hear from Mizuno why.
In Brazil sb2 is 30% more expensive
Thanks, I was waiting for this review. Much appreciated!
Both shoes are way overpriced in Australia at AUD$320 but for me, Superblast 2 represents better value and probably durability. I'd go SB2. Asics is using their premier super midsole foam. If Mizuno used their premier super midsole foam in a similar built shoe as the Superblast with perhaps a less aggressive rocker as in the Rebellion Pro I'd be very interested. The Rebellion Flash 2 is very good but if they super stacked it using their top tier foam and called it the Rebellion Flash Max then you would cater to that running demographic that loves those high stacked performance shoes.
Please consider reviewing the Rebellion Flash 2. It’s a banger and incredibly underrated! Plus looks better than the NV and has a traditional upper.
I bought those after I tried the Neo Vista's bc I thought they'd be the same kind of shoes and they definitely run/feel differently. I think the bootie upper on the NV fits better than the traditional upper from the Flash 2. I don't wear my shoe laces with the NV and with the Flash's the upper didn't fit well enough even when I laced them as tight as possible. I had to return the Flash 2's bc they were putting pressure on my left arch too. They're lighter than the NV's but they don't feel as good as the NV imo.
@@gingram2 fair play. I have quite a wide foot with a high arch so they fit me perfectly but they do cause me to pronate a bit due to the narrow heel. They feels quite similar to the Rebellion Pro 1 and are more aggressive than the NV but I love them personally.
I love the flash 2 as well. Though similar to you I get mild pronation unless I am running at some speed in them, which is fine as they feel pretty aggressive.
I feel if they improved the fit around the sides of the ankle it would probably prevent this and allow me to run a bit longer in them without discomfort the following days, I can only really do 10k in them happily.
I may well have tried the NV, but couldn't find it in my size at below full price. I ended up paying $150 for the SB2 thanks to Asics' 25% military/veteran discount. I wanted something to rotate with the Ride 17 and Mach 6, and either probably would have been fine.
Where have the superblast 2 shoes gone from the ASICS website ? I thought they were available today ?
I bought the grey/black ones a couple of days ago. Not my first choice of colorway, but functionally identical.
They are the same price in Australia.
Yeah, so unfair!
both shoes offer the same end game just through different dynamics, my SuperBlast are awesome but my neo vista can do the same its that idea of firm midsole with a soft layer vs soft shoe with plate.
Correction: SuperBlast2 uses ASICS GRIP rubber unlike the 1st version which used AHAR+.
Great comparison 👏👏
Which would you have for a marathon?
How does the Mizuno compare to the Prime X Strung 1?
Is that off-white Superblast 2 a UK-only release?
thanks for the great review
I dont really know where these shoes sit in rotation anymore. Race day shoes? Nope, Adidas AP3 for me. Speed workout? Nope. Adidas takuni Sen 9 or 10. LSD? Asics Kayano or Nimbus are as good for the task and cheaper. Daily trainer? Nope, Boston 12 or Novablast are cheaper and can do the job as good. The only use case I can see for Superblast is Long run at marathon goal race pace, which i used it for. I am a shoes junkie but I am lost what to do with Neo Vista other than being an expensive LSD trainer.
That just shows how different we all are. I would happily use the AP3 as a daily trainer (or my one, do-it-all shoe), before I would even consider the Boston 12, or NB 2 and 3. I like the Boston for hill sprints, but find it way too uncomfortable and clunky for anything else.
I have the Novablast 3 and I highly doubt it’s just as good. Not nearly as bouncy as either of these shoes.
@@Feanaro5503 It depends on your expectation for a daily trainer and also the purpose of it . USD180 for a daily trainer it better be good for that price. I have no issue with Novablast, Pegasus 35, Beacon and even Reebok floatride energy to just log miles in zone 2 pace.
I use my Vista's purely for those long, slower efforts 👌🏻
The Superblast is definitely a longer run shoe for me at any pace. The protection alone makes it an easy choice. I have the MS3, Novablast 4 too but wouldn't use either for a longer run. I see it as a training partner to my Edge Paris.
Neo Vista vs. Novablast 4?
SB2 vs Nova4
NV = Soft, Bouncy, slow, unstable, little bit heavier, Questionable durability. ( Slow eazy run better)
NB = Bouncy, Fast, Slightly firmer, stable, lighter. 200km++ and just Slightly damaged outsole, nothing more (Daily run, faster pace better)
@@tevinpratama so for easy run pace 9-10, you suggest NV ??
@@AS-rj5qt it's depend whats you prefer. If you like softer and bouncier but Slightly unstable feeling, go for NV.
But, if you want something stable to help you propering your landing. And help reduce your ankle fatigue. But Slightly firmer. Go for NB.
@@tevinpratamapace 6-8 daily training ambil bagus yg mana ?
but here in Australia both price is the same xD
NV is $60 cheaper in Indonesia. So it's an easy decision for me
Beli dimana di indonesia?
@@HendyHariadi-r9zDi shopee ada om harga 2,1-2,3
If I found the Ride 17 too wide and clunky, will I also find the Superblast 2 too wide and clunky?
I think the issue people have with the price of the superblast is a bit confusing. You get a shoe that can do everything, basically like having a whole rotation for 200 quid 🤔
Yes but if you do all your runs in it it will wear down faster as supposed to having a rotation. So you don't save money on only having one shoe.
I have nearly a 1000km in my first pair of SB1 and it’s still going! Amazing shoe. Can’t wait for tomorrow to get this one
Boston 12 is a lot cheaper. Picked up a second pair for half the price of these yesterday 👍
That shoe has a horrible heel and very chunky lace loops.
Can 1 of you review track spikes. Maybe be Nick please. Dragonfly 2 against ASICS meta speed LD spike
40€ is quite a lot which make neo vista superior.
220 euro for non plated shoe is ridicuolous 😂
Say no to overpriced shoes
Were you expecting them to cost as much as a Nike winflo?
The fact they sell out means they’re priced correctly and you’re not the target audience
gotta love how the brits call asics ASS-ics. nice touch of character right there
Not all of us
That's how it should be pronounced
The ASICS are non existent on the market
Superblast 2 all the way for me! Mizuno neo vista are the ugliest shoes ever created🤮
That's funny bc I actually think the Neo Vista's are one of the nicest looking shoes ever made 🤷🏽♂️. They feel fantastic too.
@@gingram2 Each to his own ,that’s the beauty of life!
I'm a fan of the NV looks too. Looks really clean and simple
You gents are way too diplomatic. The SB2 hands down. The NV is hideous IMHO. Just saying.
Neo vista was insanely bouncy. Really fun tbh.
Upper has some issues but its fine.
Looking forward to the superblast 2
Tall stack height.
Perfect for twisting angles and tearing muscles, ligaments.
Stupid overrated overpriced crap
For someone who don't know how to "proper" run or landing. Yes. Its drawback.
But, for someone who already used to or even mastered in it. Tall stack help to bounce back and reduce muscle fatigue over distance while runing.
For Price, it's fair. I ran a lot and try ton of shoes and never felt any below 100$ shoes give me similar benefits with 200$++ shoes.