I agree with enforcing laws so lawlessness doesn’t become the norm. Look at the USA with smash and grab, catch and release, and businesses closing because laws were not enforced. Put a tax on pot with the money going to education and transportation. Don’t go backwards.
As a Thai who has been following American politics, i agree, but we also have the Puea Thai party which is quite a lib party in power right now and they're seemed to be in cahoot with the Junta these days too. So, idk if the future will be better. I'm not a rightist either. I'm an authoritarian centrist. So, as an authoritarian, i don't like the fact that Thailand's private sector seemed to be taking ESG money. They dared abandoning Thailand's value and accepting money from companies that will attempt to fundamentally change our culture? F ing Chao Sua pos! I heard quite a bit of talks about ESG investment in the market and it irks me. We all know what ESG will leads to, America has already shown us that (9h3ttoism). The government seemed to either be ignoring this disturbing trend, or pretend to ignoring it, but actively encourages it behind the scene, i'm leaning on the latter. Hopefully, the Junta won't stand for it. I think they're stupid old men who doesn't know what's going on in the world, but i hope they learn what ESG will do to our country and have a go with another round of coup, but this time put an end to the Puea Thai completely.
@@paradise6606 i was talking about your question of “why tax pot”… it should be taxed just like alcohol or cigarettes. I’m not debating whether it should be legal or not. It should but it should be treated like any other commodity.
Thanks for the wonderful news for all tourists and expats who respect the locals and obey the laws in Thailand, Ben. We've been waiting for this game change for years. Basically, in any country or any social scene, BAD ONES STAND OUT. The lawless, irresponsible, and disrespectful foreigners may impact all of us negatively, because some Thais have started to generalize and resent foreigners as a whole no matter how good the majority of them are, and who genuinely love Thailand and respect Thais. We're sure that this will bring good outcomes for both the local and international communities. "GOOD FOREIGNERS IN, BAD FOREIGNERS OUT!"
If you don’t break the laws you should have nothing to worry about. What Thailand needs to worry about is opening up to Middle Eastern countries, pushing more and more for Chinese and Indian citizens. Thailand long ago decided that it was quantity over quality and now they want to put the toothpaste back in the tube and it won’t work unless they get serious about quality over quantity.
Middle East 😅 people that come from Middle East to Thailand are 100 times better than a lot for western countries, what are you talking about. They do the least problem! They are the high quality tourist
They don't have to deal with the scum of western tourists.. they have to deal with refugees that lost their homes mostly thanks to their actions in the past (specially the UK).
About remaining open during the pandemic, I disagree that Thailand was the only country open in any "meaningful way" . I received six months vias exemption entry to Mexico September 2020, no quarantine and no sandbox area general confinement.
No matter which country a person is in, things are basically the same when it comes to screwing around with the police department. Police departments, universally, do not react well when a member of the force is attacked. The response is almost always to make the offender regret their actions, if the offender can be identified. Beyond that, the relationship between police and others who are in the same category as the offenders becomes much less friendly, cooperative, or accommodating and much more rigid, controlling, and inflexible. Everyone else pays for the misbehavior of a few people.
Haha noise pollution... Thais are not known for being quiet themselves. Lived there during covid... neighbours and temples having loud music and religious stuff that is very loud night and day.
Well you start by having laws and following the laws the same for ALL not just foreigners get 1 law and Thai get other laws..... How about that when a Thai officer pulls you over or stops you anywhere the first thing is not how much will you have to pay THAT OFFICER for something stupid...... We all know it happens and we have all heard the stories and even had to pay for BULLCRAP... SO THE FIRST THING IS: Thailand needs to clean up their own house....... BEFORE they tell others to follow the law....... When we all see it is pay to play here....... Below you will find what I'm talking about....... Then tell me who is wrong.....
You know I totally understand this. I lived in France, Montmartre, for over two years. During the tourist season we had invading hordes of tourists, mostly from China who just took over neighborhoods. You couldn't comfortably go to work, a cafe or a store because of the crowds that would start around 7 am. It was frustrating to everyone. I remember trying to leave my house on morning at 7:30 am to go to work. I opened the front door and their were more than a hundred tourists there standing with an idiotic tour guide shouting at the top of their lungs. Even when I tried to say "pardon" they wouldn't get out of the way. I finally shouted at them to move and said the neighborhood wasn't an amusement park, that real people with real jobs live there. We wanted to close the street off. It was ridiculous.
i think this is not about mass tourism.. but more about tourists acting like psycopaths. So far never heard of a chinese tourists assaulting police officers or old ladys in supermarkets.. The problem with Chinese tourists here is more that tour groups are led to exclusively overpriced businesses owned by the chinese tour operators.
Why do you people always blame it on the “drunk” tourist? The 2 New Zealand brothers that assaulted the traffic cop weren’t drunk or on drugs. They were just 2 rich buffoons who never had to face any consequences and thought they could do whatever they wanted. It’s not always the drunks
The nice persons I know that owned a condo in Thailand since 1983 sold and moved out more than 10 years ago. Then it was the land of smiles. Maybe more idiots go there now but maybe it is just attracting that kind of guys for different reasons. People going there mainly for delicious food and wonderful beaches are probably more scarce now.
My buddy got the BMW 340 he's renting impounded while he was in Phuket for noise polition last month. Since he didn't own the car, he had to pay to fly the actual owner down to Phuket from Samut Prakan and pay the impound fee. Crazy part is, the owner is the reason why the car is so loud in the first place. The owner straight piped the exhaust and reflashed the computer so it makes even more pops and bangs out the exhaust. But will he accept any of the fault? NOPE
@@Wilko11 agreed. So far, Phuket has been the only place I've seen that actually enforce car noise pollution laws. Even back home in the states, they've only just started cracking down on those guys that install those gunshot sounding pops & bangs engine tunes on their cars.
@@Wilko11 its the falang's fault cos police would never impound the car if a thai was driving it. never expect fairness in thailand unless u are chinese or thai maybe russian
I'm all for this - maybe this message is more for the rowdy anything goes tourist & short-timers who want to go wild in Thailand, not for the retirees who come to Thailand to live out their days peacefully,
Mass tourism is a double-edged sword that cuts both ways. Covid taught many locals how nice it could be to have your city/country back. Ask any local (except AirBnB owning locals) what they think of mass tourism. Barcelona, Venice, Amsterdam, Bali....and now Thailand? People have had enough.
Yea they struggled big time. Hence the phuket sandbox. Many of these countries that "struggle" with tourism, need it the most too. Imagine losing 10-25% of gdp in a western country. Some entire cities/sectors getting wiped out. Can't eat your cake and have it too.
I can't say I disagree with this move. If people can't handle their responsibilities in a relaxed legal environment, then it seems only prudent to tighten up on disruptive behavior. Visitors need to respect the people and the place they are visiting.
Everything is perfectly calm up here in Fang. Big Joke paid me a visit 2 weeks ago. Good people in, bad people out. Learn to behave and relax, chill out.
Intresting how you talk about the paradigm of a foreigner or foreigners attacking a patrolman.....and how this has really crossed the line here in Thailand, however running down a policeman under cocain, speeding at over 100 km/hr, not stopping to assist the victim, leaving the country unlawfully and the statute of limitaions allowed to expire and the AG of Thailand cooking the record of the act in itself.......just bewilders the thinking here. Lets see you comment on this all...speaking of hyperperbolic!!
Thailand's laid-back image has led to a misconception that you can do anything there, but this isn't true. To fix this, laws need consistent enforcement. Police should get fair wages, proper equipment, and apply laws evenly. Including more foreign officers could improve communication. But, foreigners must remember they're not at home and must follow local laws to avoid problems.
Some falsified outrage in this. Why wouldn't they have zero tolerance on unruly behavior. For too long now many come to thailand and behave in a way they wouldn't in their own taking thai hospitality for granted. If you live here like me embrace it but don't disrespect it. The irony being particularly my own country like the UK are almost police states.
Very interesting news, thanks. Seem to me this strengthens the case that perhaps the new cannabis laws will indeed be rolled back as well...although the article wasnt specifically about this. Cannabis shops are an idiot magnet.
So what does "enforcing thai law" mean in a boots on the ground practical sense? Cracking skulls? Kneeling on necks? What is the threat they are trying to get across?
This story just happened on May 11th at the airport....... I came here in AUG 4th 2023 got a Visa on arrival stamp ( good for 30 days ) I liked it so I rented a condo for 1 year.... September got my extension stamp good till October..... Did my Visa run good till November..... then got my extension good till December...... then did my 2nd visa run good till January last run as only 2 in 1 year.... ok then got my extension in February.... March was a new year so I got 2 new visa runs for 2024 and used 1 in at the end of March then an extension till April then a new visa run #2 for 2024 good till May and another extension till May19th ..... I was told at immigration on this last extension I would have to fly out of the country then come back..... ( so no visa run ) OK ALL GOOD RIGHT......? So I left the country on May 7th to go see a friend and to a wedding went to china.... stayed in china and flew back to Thailand on May 11th................ and all HELL BROKE LOSE..... I was told I was not allowed to do that as I stayed in Thailand for to long without a " REAL VISA " and I was not allowed to come back into the country on a Visa on arrival stamp..... I had to have a visa.... I was held for 4 hours at the airport till the ( Bit@h ) got off and another person came in and they looked and said...... Yes you can come back no problem showed my ( SO-CALLED ) flight out on June 9th She SMILED at me gave me my stamp and winked at me....... walking out the holding area she said we all know the game and the other lady does not like foreigners so she gives them a hard time all the time till someone starts to raise a stink..... then they let them in..... LOOK WE KNOW NOT TO YELL AT THEM....... But at some point people will stop playing Thailand's STUPID game and we will all just find a new place that does not use us as their ATM's....... So even when we follow the law we get messed with........ I followed the law to the letter and was almost kicked out of Thailand for no other reason then a government work does not like us here....... So who is wrong here...... and yes I'm getting a VISA but things come up and it took some time because of hospital bill I had here...... By my count you can stay with a visa on arrival and all extension's and visa runs about 6-7 months I got lucky as the new year restarted my visa runs so I got 4 by law in less the 365 days........ A LOOPHOLE........???? Yes / No / Maybe but it is their rules SO WHO IS RIGHT..... oh the fun part will be when I try to get a new extension in June if my VISA is not done...... DO I EVEN TRY
Why don't you get a visa? I arrived the same time as you, but I finally got off my hump after using all my extensions and runs and handled my visa. Now I sleep easy.
So they're kinda just promising to enforce existing laws, in the future, maybe. I mean, it's definitely not the dumbest idea I ever heard from the BiB.
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I agree with enforcing laws so lawlessness doesn’t become the norm. Look at the USA with smash and grab, catch and release, and businesses closing because laws were not enforced. Put a tax on pot with the money going to education and transportation. Don’t go backwards.
As a Thai who has been following American politics, i agree, but we also have the Puea Thai party which is quite a lib party in power right now and they're seemed to be in cahoot with the Junta these days too. So, idk if the future will be better. I'm not a rightist either. I'm an authoritarian centrist. So, as an authoritarian, i don't like the fact that Thailand's private sector seemed to be taking ESG money. They dared abandoning Thailand's value and accepting money from companies that will attempt to fundamentally change our culture? F ing Chao Sua pos! I heard quite a bit of talks about ESG investment in the market and it irks me. We all know what ESG will leads to, America has already shown us that (9h3ttoism). The government seemed to either be ignoring this disturbing trend, or pretend to ignoring it, but actively encourages it behind the scene, i'm leaning on the latter. Hopefully, the Junta won't stand for it. I think they're stupid old men who doesn't know what's going on in the world, but i hope they learn what ESG will do to our country and have a go with another round of coup, but this time put an end to the Puea Thai completely.
But if you look at the USA it’s 1 or 2 demographic groups that are causing 98% of that chaos
@@paradise6606 why tax pot?? Is this a serious question or do you just have no idea what is going on?
@@paradise6606 i was talking about your question of “why tax pot”… it should be taxed just like alcohol or cigarettes. I’m not debating whether it should be legal or not. It should but it should be treated like any other commodity.
@@paradise6606 everything is taxed. It should be taxed
Thanks for the wonderful news for all tourists and expats who respect the locals and obey the laws in Thailand, Ben.
We've been waiting for this game change for years. Basically, in any country or any social scene, BAD ONES STAND OUT. The lawless, irresponsible, and disrespectful foreigners may impact all of us negatively, because some Thais have started to generalize and resent foreigners as a whole no matter how good the majority of them are, and who genuinely love Thailand and respect Thais.
We're sure that this will bring good outcomes for both the local and international communities.
"GOOD FOREIGNERS IN, BAD FOREIGNERS OUT!"
Exactly. And exactly what the west doesn't get. They just bring in anyone, the worst of the worst!
Problem is Police 5:20 dont enforce laws against Thais. Double standaed!
95.4% of the prison population here are Thais.. how is that possible if your claim is true?
If you don’t break the laws you should have nothing to worry about. What Thailand needs to worry about is opening up to Middle Eastern countries, pushing more and more for Chinese and Indian citizens. Thailand long ago decided that it was quantity over quality and now they want to put the toothpaste back in the tube and it won’t work unless they get serious about quality over quantity.
you just want thailand to go back to being exclusively for usa/uk and other 5 eyes-alliance people
Middle East 😅 people that come from Middle East to Thailand are 100 times better than a lot for western countries, what are you talking about. They do the least problem! They are the high quality tourist
@@FavoFavo-c6p they don’t spend money. Do you even know what youre talking about?
Just don't be a jerk and break the laws. But on the other hand, we want your money and not you. Kind of ting tong
Look out if they ever get serious about the nominee companies.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. It was to be expected that Thailand would push back against that aggressive and entitled behaviour...
I wish that the European (and especially the UK) immigration authorities had a similar attitude.
They don't have to deal with the scum of western tourists.. they have to deal with refugees that lost their homes mostly thanks to their actions in the past (specially the UK).
About remaining open during the pandemic, I disagree that Thailand was the only country open in any "meaningful way" . I received six months vias exemption entry to Mexico September 2020, no quarantine and no sandbox area general confinement.
Beg to differ ... about Thailand and the pandemic ... curfews, business closures, masks, social distancing, etc.
I'd say the swedes led the way globally for remaining open during the pandemic. Thailand definitely capitulated...
Yes, I got 3 visas this way.
@@rickciardellathe Swedish definitely did and the hospitals were like a combat zone.
No matter which country a person is in, things are basically the same when it comes to screwing around with the police department. Police departments, universally, do not react well when a member of the force is attacked. The response is almost always to make the offender regret their actions, if the offender can be identified. Beyond that, the relationship between police and others who are in the same category as the offenders becomes much less friendly, cooperative, or accommodating and much more rigid, controlling, and inflexible. Everyone else pays for the misbehavior of a few people.
Haha noise pollution... Thais are not known for being quiet themselves. Lived there during covid... neighbours and temples having loud music and religious stuff that is very loud night and day.
Well you start by having laws and following the laws the same for ALL not just foreigners get 1 law and Thai get other laws..... How about that when a Thai officer pulls you over or stops you anywhere the first thing is not how much will you have to pay THAT OFFICER for something stupid...... We all know it happens and we have all heard the stories and even had to pay for BULLCRAP... SO THE FIRST THING IS: Thailand needs to clean up their own house....... BEFORE they tell others to follow the law....... When we all see it is pay to play here....... Below you will find what I'm talking about....... Then tell me who is wrong.....
You know I totally understand this. I lived in France, Montmartre, for over two years. During the tourist season we had invading hordes of tourists, mostly from China who just took over neighborhoods. You couldn't comfortably go to work, a cafe or a store because of the crowds that would start around 7 am. It was frustrating to everyone. I remember trying to leave my house on morning at 7:30 am to go to work. I opened the front door and their were more than a hundred tourists there standing with an idiotic tour guide shouting at the top of their lungs. Even when I tried to say "pardon" they wouldn't get out of the way. I finally shouted at them to move and said the neighborhood wasn't an amusement park, that real people with real jobs live there. We wanted to close the street off. It was ridiculous.
i think this is not about mass tourism.. but more about tourists acting like psycopaths. So far never heard of a chinese tourists assaulting police officers or old ladys in supermarkets.. The problem with Chinese tourists here is more that tour groups are led to exclusively overpriced businesses owned by the chinese tour operators.
Drunk tourists are only beneficial to pub owners and bar girls. I came here to live a quiet, peaceful life. I support efforts to keep it that way.
Why do you people always blame it on the “drunk” tourist? The 2 New Zealand brothers that assaulted the traffic cop weren’t drunk or on drugs. They were just 2 rich buffoons who never had to face any consequences and thought they could do whatever they wanted. It’s not always the drunks
@@kingrama2727 unfortunately 25 thumbs up for his comment, their mindset is laughable, came as tourists, then moved here and now hate tourists
The villians do to much harm to us people who just follow the laws and enjoy life in Thailand
The nice persons I know that owned a condo in Thailand since 1983 sold and moved out more than 10 years ago. Then it was the land of smiles. Maybe more idiots go there now but maybe it is just attracting that kind of guys for different reasons. People going there mainly for delicious food and wonderful beaches are probably more scarce now.
My buddy got the BMW 340 he's renting impounded while he was in Phuket for noise polition last month. Since he didn't own the car, he had to pay to fly the actual owner down to Phuket from Samut Prakan and pay the impound fee.
Crazy part is, the owner is the reason why the car is so loud in the first place. The owner straight piped the exhaust and reflashed the computer so it makes even more pops and bangs out the exhaust. But will he accept any of the fault? NOPE
that was very not smart decision from your buddy in the first place
He should have refused to pay. The noise fine and impound cost had nothing to do with him. The rental guy played him for a fool.
@@Wilko11 agreed. So far, Phuket has been the only place I've seen that actually enforce car noise pollution laws. Even back home in the states, they've only just started cracking down on those guys that install those gunshot sounding pops & bangs engine tunes on their cars.
@@Wilko11 its the falang's fault cos police would never impound the car if a thai was driving it. never expect fairness in thailand unless u are chinese or thai maybe russian
I'm all for this - maybe this message is more for the rowdy anything goes tourist & short-timers who want to go wild in Thailand, not for the retirees who come to Thailand to live out their days peacefully,
Mass tourism is a double-edged sword that cuts both ways. Covid taught many locals how nice it could be to have your city/country back. Ask any local (except AirBnB owning locals) what they think of mass tourism. Barcelona, Venice, Amsterdam, Bali....and now Thailand? People have had enough.
Yea they struggled big time. Hence the phuket sandbox. Many of these countries that "struggle" with tourism, need it the most too. Imagine losing 10-25% of gdp in a western country. Some entire cities/sectors getting wiped out. Can't eat your cake and have it too.
I can't say I disagree with this move. If people can't handle their responsibilities in a relaxed legal environment, then it seems only prudent to tighten up on disruptive behavior. Visitors need to respect the people and the place they are visiting.
Look around you! you see Thais respecting anything 😢 im Thai and you're not. I dont have to obey laws, but farang has too.
Preach it Ben! The US needs to implement this advice too! 🎉🎉🎉z
So we'll just go somewhere else. Easy. There's other places to spend money
Cambodia has a one year visa for 250. American dollars. Hard to beat.
Everything is perfectly calm up here in Fang. Big Joke paid me a visit 2 weeks ago. Good people in, bad people out. Learn to behave and relax, chill out.
Thumbs up 👍 Benjamin
It's all aesthetics. It'll all blow over after 1-2 years like it always do.
Right. And 90% of the laws Ben highlights are non existent when you pay a visa agent or other resource.
Intresting how you talk about the paradigm of a foreigner or foreigners attacking a patrolman.....and how this has really crossed the line here in Thailand, however running down a policeman under cocain, speeding at over 100 km/hr, not stopping to assist the victim, leaving the country unlawfully and the statute of limitaions allowed to expire and the AG of Thailand cooking the record of the act in itself.......just bewilders the thinking here. Lets see you comment on this all...speaking of hyperperbolic!!
Thailand's laid-back image has led to a misconception that you can do anything there, but this isn't true. To fix this, laws need consistent enforcement. Police should get fair wages, proper equipment, and apply laws evenly. Including more foreign officers could improve communication. But, foreigners must remember they're not at home and must follow local laws to avoid problems.
you missed the one and biggest problem...
@@erikjohansen9154 What's that?
Some falsified outrage in this. Why wouldn't they have zero tolerance on unruly behavior. For too long now many come to thailand and behave in a way they wouldn't in their own taking thai hospitality for granted. If you live here like me embrace it but don't disrespect it. The irony being particularly my own country like the UK are almost police states.
So what are they gonna do?
Stop tourism? What?
Just keeping my head down and loving bangkok.
Amen!
Keeping your head down? Seriously?
They had enough of people taking the piss... and quite frankly I dont blame them!
so basically, don't act like an a**hole and you'll be fine.
Dime store attorney with a nickels worth of information.
A few bad apples spoiling the whole bunch.
Very interesting news, thanks. Seem to me this strengthens the case that perhaps the new cannabis laws will indeed be rolled back as well...although the article wasnt specifically about this. Cannabis shops are an idiot magnet.
Thanks ! Can you provide some practical examples where we will be affected (doing nothing wrong) ?
So what does "enforcing thai law" mean in a boots on the ground practical sense? Cracking skulls? Kneeling on necks? What is the threat they are trying to get across?
This story just happened on May 11th at the airport....... I came here in AUG 4th 2023 got a Visa on arrival stamp ( good for 30 days ) I liked it so I rented a condo for 1 year.... September got my extension stamp good till October..... Did my Visa run good till November..... then got my extension good till December...... then did my 2nd visa run good till January last run as only 2 in 1 year.... ok then got my extension in February.... March was a new year so I got 2 new visa runs for 2024 and used 1 in at the end of March then an extension till April then a new visa run #2 for 2024 good till May and another extension till May19th ..... I was told at immigration on this last extension I would have to fly out of the country then come back..... ( so no visa run ) OK ALL GOOD RIGHT......? So I left the country on May 7th to go see a friend and to a wedding went to china.... stayed in china and flew back to Thailand on May 11th................ and all HELL BROKE LOSE..... I was told I was not allowed to do that as I stayed in Thailand for to long without a " REAL VISA " and I was not allowed to come back into the country on a Visa on arrival stamp..... I had to have a visa.... I was held for 4 hours at the airport till the ( Bit@h ) got off and another person came in and they looked and said...... Yes you can come back no problem showed my ( SO-CALLED ) flight out on June 9th She SMILED at me gave me my stamp and winked at me....... walking out the holding area she said we all know the game and the other lady does not like foreigners so she gives them a hard time all the time till someone starts to raise a stink..... then they let them in..... LOOK WE KNOW NOT TO YELL AT THEM....... But at some point people will stop playing Thailand's STUPID game and we will all just find a new place that does not use us as their ATM's....... So even when we follow the law we get messed with........ I followed the law to the letter and was almost kicked out of Thailand for no other reason then a government work does not like us here....... So who is wrong here...... and yes I'm getting a VISA but things come up and it took some time because of hospital bill I had here...... By my count you can stay with a visa on arrival and all extension's and visa runs about 6-7 months I got lucky as the new year restarted my visa runs so I got 4 by law in less the 365 days........ A LOOPHOLE........???? Yes / No / Maybe but it is their rules SO WHO IS RIGHT..... oh the fun part will be when I try to get a new extension in June if my VISA is not done...... DO I EVEN TRY
Why don't you get a visa? I arrived the same time as you, but I finally got off my hump after using all my extensions and runs and handled my visa.
Now I sleep easy.
Pls kick the bad actors out!
"If you will, if you will, if you will". A terrible overuse of a tired phrase used in almost every video.
Then stop watching....and take your 5 👍's up with you!
Living here just isn't worth it anymore.
So they're kinda just promising to enforce existing laws, in the future, maybe.
I mean, it's definitely not the dumbest idea I ever heard from the BiB.