When I found out the truth behind Jiang Cheng’s kidnapping that day, I nearly started crying. I had my theory, but seeing it actually confirmed broke my heart. These brothers sacrificed something for each other, and only one of them knows the truth about it. The small smile… the hopes of seeing each other again… the hope of the Twin Prides of Yungmeng lives on. Yanli would be proud. Also, Zizhen still best boy, being there when his father isn’t.
low-key I wanted jiang cheng & wei wuxian to hug each other after sorting out misunderstanding, I am happy wei ying chose to go with lan zhan but still I wanted those brothers to hug each other 🤧🥺
I just let the tears fall seeing this scene again, is true to how siblings love and yet don't always make it known. But sometimes it's felt in both hearts.
I'm happy that other than Lan Zhan there is another person, a disciple from another clan, who's sincerely worried about Wei Ying, and he barely even knows him. I am talking about that boy in blue robe. It would have been painful to see everyone rushing to Lan Zhan and Zheng to ask how they were but nobody cared about Wei Ying.
Jiang Cheng, tremendo personaje, muy complejo, se entera de toda la dramática verdad, pero él también ha callado acerca de cómo salvó a su hermano. La verdad que la autora creó unos fabulosos personajes 👏👏👏
That’s the thing Jiang Cheng knew Wei Ying belonged in Gusu with Lan Zhan . It would of been cool if they could stay for dinner and Lan Zhan could make Lotus Rib Soup 😁
Jiang Cheng will always see Wei Ying as his brother. He will always love Wei Ying as family. But the truth is, so much has changed. There’s no going back, no matter how much they want to. On a happier note, Jiang Cheng and Wei Ying is said to be reconciling through the Night Hunts the Juniors, sometimes joined by Lan Zhan and often escorted by Wen Ning. There is hope for another chance at fixing what was once broken. Just because the stories end doesn’t mean that their lives end with it. Jiang Cheng and Wei Ying are still young. They have plenty of time to fix the brotherhood they once shared.
@@hualian5339 That's exactly what he's doing. "Let everyone go back to where they belongs" meaning Wwx's home is Lan Zhan now, let him go back with Lan Zhan.
Jiang Cheng knew he had treated Wei Wuxian terrible and never stood up for him before Nevernight. I’m sure he felt horrible after he found out the truth about the core and Meng Yao being the villain who caused the death of Jing’s parents and so many others. WW doesn’t need him, he has Lan Zhan. ❤️
@@svetlanalvova1128 While they both exacerbated the circumstances that led them to the lives they led (and lost in WWX's case,) Jin Guangyao was very right in one respect- if JC had held more faith in WWX, it wouldn't have come to what it did.
@@akkiko Did JC, as a Sect Leader, have reason or right to continue trusting WWX as his subordinate, given the changes WWX was demonstrative about after the Burial Mounds and giving JC zero explanations for ANYTHING? There are two levels of relations between WWX and JC both important. The first is the personal relations between them, as kids growing up together. The second is the one, where JC's father, according to the novel, is a complete failure in terms of raising WWX: JFM completely fails to teach WWX, and WWX completely fails to understand, that aside from personal relations, there are the even more important Sect structure relations. JC is not only WWX's shidi, he is his Sect Leader, which is far more important. WWX is not just JC's martial brother, he is JC's Sect subordinate. Telling JC about the core transfer was WWX's duty as a member of the YMJ Sect no matter what their relations were, and fulfilling that duty was far more important to the security of the Sect than considering JC's feelings. Not to mention that, if on one side of the scale are JC's feeling, and on the other side are the lives of the Wen Remnants, I would say that the choice of whether to tell or not to tell should have been obvious, except that is was nt obvious to WWX, for which I blame JFM's lamentable "parenting". Beside, you are talking about the GuanYin Temple scene. The one insult that is sure to make JGY retaliate is being called "son of a whore", which JC had just done before JGY's speech. Kudos to the author for coming up that very manipulative speech that is specifically targeted at JC and is basically half-truth, half-manipulation and meant to shake and wound JC.🙂
@@svetlanalvova1128 I think you misunderstand me- I fully agree they all made do with what they had in the moment, making the best possible choices they could even if they weren't "good" choices. WWX might have owed JC the truth as his subordinate but JC should never have given himself up for WWX as a leader. Those were both decisions made as friends. The greatest tragedies, (and the most poignant ones,) are when nobody really did anything "wrong" but heartbreak couldn't be avoided. I only meant to say that if JC had thrown the support of the Jiangs behind WWX, no matter what might have resulted- in the end they would have still been brothers.
@@akkiko I understood you. I agree with all, but JC being able, both personally and as the YMJ Sect Leader, to support WWX against the position taken by the Great Sects and public opinion without sufficient "ammunition". I can't REALLY consider the donghua canon, but in the absence of anything else... The bodies of all 1500 disciples and elders of YMJ were accounted for after the fall of Lotus Pier. That means that the overwhelming majority of post war YMJ disciples, if not all, were war-recruited and had no personal connection wtih either the Jiang Clan, or WWX. So JC, who is still rebuilding the YMJ Sect, would have no support from them for the YL WWX, the unstable, aggressive, drunk, perpetually absent Da shixiong of YMJ, who acted wildly and erratically, continuously overstepped his authority, undermined the authority of JC, barged into Carp Tower and threatened everyone there with his power, then used Demon culti to raise Wen Ning, kill the guards, steal prisoners. Just for arguments sake, look at WWX's actions and behavior from the position of the average, stable, routine-oriented society, who do not know the background of WWX's behaviour. When the war had just ended, of course the population in general would not support anyone threatening to rupture the established peace and routine. No, JC couldn't do it without substantial propaganda ammo to turn the opinion of the crowd. Actually, WWX was the only one who could something, but didn't it due to emotionally induced tunnel vision and JFM's idealistic teaching of the Jiang family motto, which, in the interpretation of JFM, is the Chinese cultivation equivalent King Arthur and the Noble Knights of Round Table. Specifically, during the Carp Tower scene, when he could have appealed to LXC using the GusuLan rules, or rather how they were being broken. Or at least he could have escaped with the Wen Remnants to the BM without killing anyone and then immediately done a propaganda type appeal based on "victims!" and "righteousness!" to the Nie and the Lan. There is no such thing as a society that is not based on and driven by economics and competition, which lead to politics. No organizations, and sects are organizations, can avoid that. In this connection, I have started to question just what JFM was raising WWX to be as an adult. Considering that WWX doesn't understand that a sect is an organization that is a part of the system, doesn't understand the reasons for hierarchy in an organization, what "exceeding your level of authority" means, was JFM raising WWX to be a member of the YMJ sect or a "free and unrestrained, attempt the impossible" rogue cultivator? Because JFM certainly did nothing to teach WWX discipline and reality. Look at JC, WWX and NHS talking at the Gusu courses about WWX's day at YMJ. Another thing that should be noted is that, with such a daily schedule, WWX being the head disciple means that he was nothing more than the the 15 y.o. head student of JFM, and not a part of the legislative/executive hierarchy of the YMJ sect? As for JC and WWX remaining brothers, I am frankly of two minds on the subject. As much as I would like to believe in such a brotherhood, there are two aspect that make me doubt it. I may be mistaken, but I feel like the author of the novel made the 4 action characters, namely WWX, JC,. LWJ and NHS, in accordance with the basics of the four temperaments. JC is a choleric, WWX is a sanguine, LWJ is a phlegmatic and NHS is a melancholic. Each temperament has its pros and cons, as the weaknesses of each temperament are, at the same time, its strengths. In this case we have a choleric JC raised to be a pragmatic realist seeking safety and security for himself and his own, by his choleric mother, while chasing after the approval of his idealistic, out-of- touch with reality melancholic father, who, from what I see, has done everything to put into the sanguine WWX his own King Arthur and the Noble Knights of the Round Table idealism without teaching him about the everyday "dirty" realities of life and society, and how to exist and work within it. Without going into the details of the negative sides of the choleric and sanguine temperaments, I have to mention that the sanguine that has not been taught discipline and self-regulation, unless his attention and interest are drawn to smth, will be something of a butterfly, in interest and relations, constantly chasing after new interests and new experiences and stimuli, discarding what they have lost interest in. WWX's "forgive-forget" come from this, actually. It is normal for a sanguine to "forgive-forget", because, as they constantly need new stimuli, they need to move on to the next great adventure, and a grudge will get in the way. Naturally, sanguines will expect that the same "forgive-forget" will be applied to them as well. On the other hand, sanguines are exceptionally stress-resistant, nothing can get them down for long. Altogether, this makes sanguines great crisis managers and leaders, who easily lift people's spirits and get them to work together. The Tortoise of Slaughter piece is a good example. WWX is all that, and his heart is in the right place. However, the decisions of the 15-22 y.o. WWX in his first life are limited, because he simply couldn't include into his analysis of a situation what he didn't know, what he was not taught, was not trained for, had not learned, had not experienced. Hence, he is doing the absolutely right thing in ways that are sure to fail. Cholerics are also leaders, but of a different kind. Adults are naturally explosive, but, having blown up, they quickly defuse. They are driven goal-oriented "doers" that turn all their focus on THE GOAL, whatever it is. Askers for help most certainly won't get a shoulder to cry on or compassion. What they will get is a detailed analysis of the asker's problem, analysis of what the asker did wrong, and every possible way out of the problem the choleric can think of. If the asker is close to the choleric, the asker can expect to be grabbed by the hand and dragged, screaming and hollering, by the most probably irritated choleric, who will now have THE GOAL of solving the asker's problem. Along the way the asker can expect to be given a scathing analysis of his/her intellect, described at length and in great detail. However, if the problem can be solved, it will be solved. Concentration on the goal and ways to achieve it leads to a decrease of empathy. Among the simplified 4 temperaments, the always-on- the-move, goal-oriented adult cholerics have the least need for emotional intimacy, and the highest level of natural emotional self-reliance and self-sufficiency. Cholerics will be more interested in feelings and emotions built on solid, stable, reliable partnerships than on brotherhood. While JC took WWX's famous promise very seriously, I do not know whether the sanguine WWX was giving a responsible promise, or whether it was a spur-of -the moment sanguine "look-at-the -bright-side" reaction to JC's distress. WWX's promise was, to JC, a promise of partnership based on their years together towards THE common GOAL of making YMJ a Great Sect, which is why he took it so seriously. Like all sects, YMJ is not just about cultivation, it is also gentry, and gentry means land that will be the center of the economics of their region, because the land is theirs. So, rebuilding the YMJ sect is also about restoring the economics of the region. It is jobes, trade, money etc for YMJ sect cultivators and people of the region. And then WWX, for no reason that JC knows of or can understand, except his assumption about WWX's heroics and the influence of demonic cultivation, turns his back on everything connecting him to JC, to the Jiangs and to YMJ to go crusading against the cultivation world by threatening it by his power. Does the cultivation world believe that this is because of the Wen Remnants? I doubt it. That would be idealism, not the economics, power and politics the cultivation world understands. And then WWX dies. So I do not know whether the ties between JC and WWX over the period from when they were ~ 9 and to the fall of Lotus Pier were of actual brotherhood or of two misfits brought together by accident, who grew close and attached due to the circumstances of life at YMJ, habit and two really conflicting caretakers (JFM and YZY). I don't know. When WWX comes back, 13+ years have passed. He is very intelligent, but mentally and emotionally he is still 22 y.o., with the same level of emotional development, the same level of knowledge and experience that he had at the time of this death. Meanwhile, JC has already grown into a full, mature 35+ y.o. independent, successful adult, solidly standing on his own two feet, and at the head of and surrounded by his rebuild sect 24/7, which, if the donghua figures are to be believed, has to have been restored to over 1500 people. What links WWX and JC is their childhood, but whether that will be reason enough for either of them wanting to stay connected? The 13+ years between 22 and 35 is a very big gap in many ways. They are in different social circles. WWX is "forgive-forget, lets move on", right at the beginning of adult life and a bright, new future. JC has closure, is already set in his ways and has a life of his own that does not include WWX in it. I don't know, I really don't know, I just really don't know.🤕🤪😅.
It is a good thing that they each have a life to get back to. When routine returns to their lives after time has passed, JC and WWX will be able to build new relations as adults, more stable and more grounded.
Jiang Cheng's look of longing as he stares at Wei Ying when the clip starts broke my heart. These two gave up everything for each other and yet, so much pain and heartache between them, that their reconciliation was impossible 😢. How I wish for a better ending for them.
The children from the clans have more kindness, common sense and courage than their elders do. The future of the clans looks bright. Also, JC needs to find himself a wife and have an heir or chose an apprentice to lead the clan in the future. Hate him or love him, he also deserves happiness and a family of his own.
Jin Ling is the same as his uncle and father. His word comes out hard but it always done for their good. In the novel, after he rise to the position as the head of his sect. He mentioned to Wwx he doesn't want his uncle to help with problems at his sect because his uncle's surname isn't Jin(not someone from Jin's family). Wwx who is quick witted told him to choose better words because in his heart he only wanted to protect his uncle from being accused of mending with other clan's problems.
Loves always sweet or sour , but it hurts and happy too, just be nice and care not everyone know how to be but this 2 beautiful XZ and Yibo they found it as friend , as soulmates as brother, Loves them thats something they k ow how ,God Blessed Them both and all their true fans ❤❤❤
he is angry bird but in silent is butterfly..maybe he look s egois type person from outside,but actually he adore his brother..nobody know..only his sister understand him.
In my mind there is no doubt that it is WWX who owes JC for all the tragedy. All could have been prevented, if WWX either told JC that he didn't have a core, or if WWX had talked to JC, as a subordinate to his Sect Leader, before making any final decisions about the Wens.
Man... I just finished rewatching The Untamed and MDZS... And im back shitting tears over and over again. Damn how many years has it been? I'm still stuck here. Literally no exit once you enter this 🥹 Hahhahahah i just can't... (I'm gonna reread the novel too) Istg, I still can't get over over Jiang Cheng & Wei Ying scenes... Too much too much 😭😭😭 I'm crying so much over Jiang Cheng's pov, I empathize... He's very complicated character but he ain't bad, he love WeiYing so much... He's very misunderstood 🥹 I'm gonna protect him This beautiful story made me feel like 📈📉📈📉📈📉💥💥💥 when you thought you're done crying and found yourself laughing over Wen Ning but then the next minute, you'll find yourself crying again 🥹😂 crying over the angst, then screaming over the subtle gay scenes then feeling secondhand embarrassment, then angry, then you'll cry again 😂
Encontre puro comentario que no entiendo 🥺 Tiene una semana que termine de ver la serie, ahora estoy leyendo la novela. Pero se convirtio de mis favoritas. 💕😭
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 si los dos se hubieran dicho lo que se querían y que hicieron todo por los ellos 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 no los supero. El hubiera no existe 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Jia cheng mau minta maaf atas kesalahannya,tapi egonya tinggi.lebih baik kita selesaikan masalah di dunia!karna kalau kita tidak ada lagi penyelesaikan persoalan kita.didunia ini yang perlu dijaga ialah mulut dan tingkah laku!
He meant himself to return to lotus pier, his nephew Jin ling to return to Jin clan( because sect leader was dead and Jin ling should be their to claim his right to throne) and for Wie Wuxian to went with Lan Zhan to GesuLan . In novel Jiang Cheng explain this to Jin ling.
He was trying to tell Jin Ling that Wei Wu Xian doesn't belong to their side anymore so to speak. Meaning Lotus Pier were no longer his home, everyone should go back to where they belong but Wei Wu Xian's home is with Lan Zhan now.
@@kirukbalgar I don't think that's a yes in novel too. It's not clearly portrayed. Just that he knew something going on with Wwx and Lz way earlier and he doesn't like it, never in the novel stated he fancy Wwx romantically though. Unless the I missed something
@@alexat.s.e.u.498 pero son hermanastros. ambos crecen juntos y eso puede sonar un poco raro. (perdón si escribí algo mal, estoy usando el traductor KKK)
Aunque sea extraño por haber crecido como hermanos, siguen sin serlo de sangre, no es incesto. Aunque el padre de Jiang Cheng trató a WWX como un hijo, sigue sin serlo realmente, WWX tuvo sus propios padres que lo amaron hasta su muerte.
É totalmente estranho e contrário a obra original. Quem leu os livros sabe que em nenhum momento existe este tipo de relação entre Wei WuXian e Jiang Cheng
Im so glad the younger generation liked and loved and trusted him.
They loved him from the moment they meet on Dafan Mountain 😄
@@twinflames8600 yea
Who?
@@janestone6 the lan clan juniors :)
When I found out the truth behind Jiang Cheng’s kidnapping that day, I nearly started crying. I had my theory, but seeing it actually confirmed broke my heart. These brothers sacrificed something for each other, and only one of them knows the truth about it. The small smile… the hopes of seeing each other again… the hope of the Twin Prides of Yungmeng lives on. Yanli would be proud.
Also, Zizhen still best boy, being there when his father isn’t.
Zizhen will always be best boi😤😤😤
You got that right sister 😄
Zizhen fans forever!!
@@rheapunzel3 All the way 😁
More love for Zizhen please! 💖
low-key I wanted jiang cheng & wei wuxian to hug each other after sorting out misunderstanding, I am happy wei ying chose to go with lan zhan but still I wanted those brothers to hug each other 🤧🥺
Every time I think I’m over this show it comes back and kills me in the feels😂😩🥺🥰
Name plis 🙏🙏🙏
The untamed it’s on Netflix or vici
I just let the tears fall seeing this scene again, is true to how siblings love and yet don't always make it known. But sometimes it's felt in both hearts.
Name plis
@@anitaguerfanitaloquita7798 The Untamed
I'm happy that other than Lan Zhan there is another person, a disciple from another clan, who's sincerely worried about Wei Ying, and he barely even knows him. I am talking about that boy in blue robe. It would have been painful to see everyone rushing to Lan Zhan and Zheng to ask how they were but nobody cared about Wei Ying.
Yeah it truly breaks my heart 😫
You're so right, I teared up reading this comment.....!
@@purplesegye9773 We love Wei Ying.
@@momjiminisaftermebecauseis2680 It was an emotional moment.
Jiang Cheng, tremendo personaje, muy complejo, se entera de toda la dramática verdad, pero él también ha callado acerca de cómo salvó a su hermano. La verdad que la autora creó unos fabulosos personajes 👏👏👏
江澄角色是刀子嘴豆腐心，
也是一个傲嬌敏感小心翼翼不自信不勇敢智慧沒有很高又比不過師兄的弱角色。
幸好師兄沒有和他成為双傑，
聽到他人誇獎批評師兄就先責怪的人，誰在他身邊都是辛苦的。
幸好和他保持距離了，不然再高深的才能天賦都浪費了。
欠江家的人家都還了。再无糾葛。
Both want to say something but totally unsure after 16 years . Even Lan Zhan was like are you gonna say hello or something 🥺
That’s the thing Jiang Cheng knew Wei Ying belonged in Gusu with Lan Zhan . It would of been cool if they could stay for dinner and Lan Zhan could make Lotus Rib Soup 😁
He missed his best friend and brother so he feels guilty for not trusting him when wei ying need his trust so much🤧
陳情令的好看與價值，不只服化道的講究也不只全劇演員顏值高，更在於對情感的刻劃和劇情前後邏輯的嚴謹，是部值得一再推敲與細品的好戲。👍💯🌷🙏🥰
Everything about this drama was amazing. Story, direction, acting, casting. Till now this is the first drama that i have watched more than twice.
Jiang Cheng will always see Wei Ying as his brother. He will always love Wei Ying as family. But the truth is, so much has changed. There’s no going back, no matter how much they want to.
On a happier note, Jiang Cheng and Wei Ying is said to be reconciling through the Night Hunts the Juniors, sometimes joined by Lan Zhan and often escorted by Wen Ning.
There is hope for another chance at fixing what was once broken. Just because the stories end doesn’t mean that their lives end with it. Jiang Cheng and Wei Ying are still young. They have plenty of time to fix the brotherhood they once shared.
The one thing I love about Tsunderes: they always have a heart.
@@rheapunzel3 🤣🤣🤣🙏
Jiang Cheng should see it as marrying off his brother 😂 and not be sad.
@@hualian5339 *wheeze*
@@hualian5339 That's exactly what he's doing. "Let everyone go back to where they belongs" meaning Wwx's home is Lan Zhan now, let him go back with Lan Zhan.
That dude who said ur neck is bleeding ahhh he win my heart-
I love the juniors so much - Yuan, Jingyi, Jin Ling, and Zizhen ❤
Jiang Cheng knew he had treated Wei Wuxian terrible and never stood up for him before Nevernight. I’m sure he felt horrible after he found out the truth about the core and Meng Yao being the villain who caused the death of Jing’s parents and so many others. WW doesn’t need him, he has Lan Zhan. ❤️
WWX was no better., I am sorry to say/
@@svetlanalvova1128 While they both exacerbated the circumstances that led them to the lives they led (and lost in WWX's case,) Jin Guangyao was very right in one respect- if JC had held more faith in WWX, it wouldn't have come to what it did.
@@akkiko Did JC, as a Sect Leader, have reason or right to continue trusting WWX as his subordinate, given the changes WWX was demonstrative about after the Burial Mounds and giving JC zero explanations for ANYTHING? There are two levels of relations between WWX and JC both important. The first is the personal relations between them, as kids growing up together. The second is the one, where JC's father, according to the novel, is a complete failure in terms of raising WWX: JFM completely fails to teach WWX, and WWX completely fails to understand, that aside from personal relations, there are the even more important Sect structure relations. JC is not only WWX's shidi, he is his Sect Leader, which is far more important. WWX is not just JC's martial brother, he is JC's Sect subordinate. Telling JC about the core transfer was WWX's duty as a member of the YMJ Sect no matter what their relations were, and fulfilling that duty was far more important to the security of the Sect than considering JC's feelings. Not to mention that, if on one side of the scale are JC's feeling, and on the other side are the lives of the Wen Remnants, I would say that the choice of whether to tell or not to tell should have been obvious, except that is was nt obvious to WWX, for which I blame JFM's lamentable "parenting".
Beside, you are talking about the GuanYin Temple scene. The one insult that is sure to make JGY retaliate is being called "son of a whore", which JC had just done before JGY's speech. Kudos to the author for coming up that very manipulative speech that is specifically targeted at JC and is basically half-truth, half-manipulation and meant to shake and wound JC.🙂
@@svetlanalvova1128 I think you misunderstand me- I fully agree they all made do with what they had in the moment, making the best possible choices they could even if they weren't "good" choices. WWX might have owed JC the truth as his subordinate but JC should never have given himself up for WWX as a leader. Those were both decisions made as friends.
The greatest tragedies, (and the most poignant ones,) are when nobody really did anything "wrong" but heartbreak couldn't be avoided. I only meant to say that if JC had thrown the support of the Jiangs behind WWX, no matter what might have resulted- in the end they would have still been brothers.
@@akkiko I understood you. I agree with all, but JC being able, both personally and as the YMJ Sect Leader, to support WWX against the position taken by the Great Sects and public opinion without sufficient "ammunition". I can't REALLY consider the donghua canon, but in the absence of anything else...
The bodies of all 1500 disciples and elders of YMJ were accounted for after the fall of Lotus Pier. That means that the overwhelming majority of post war YMJ disciples, if not all, were war-recruited and had no personal connection wtih either the Jiang Clan, or WWX. So JC, who is still rebuilding the YMJ Sect, would have no support from them for the YL WWX, the unstable, aggressive, drunk, perpetually absent Da shixiong of YMJ, who acted wildly and erratically, continuously overstepped his authority, undermined the authority of JC, barged into Carp Tower and threatened everyone there with his power, then used Demon culti to raise Wen Ning, kill the guards, steal prisoners.
Just for arguments sake, look at WWX's actions and behavior from the position of the average, stable, routine-oriented society, who do not know the background of WWX's behaviour. When the war had just ended, of course the population in general would not support anyone threatening to rupture the established peace and routine.
No, JC couldn't do it without substantial propaganda ammo to turn the opinion of the crowd. Actually, WWX was the only one who could something, but didn't it due to emotionally induced tunnel vision and JFM's idealistic teaching of the Jiang family motto, which, in the interpretation of JFM, is the Chinese cultivation equivalent King Arthur and the Noble Knights of Round Table. Specifically, during the Carp Tower scene, when he could have appealed to LXC using the GusuLan rules, or rather how they were being broken. Or at least he could have escaped with the Wen Remnants to the BM without killing anyone and then immediately done a propaganda type appeal based on "victims!" and "righteousness!" to the Nie and the Lan.
There is no such thing as a society that is not based on and driven by economics and competition, which lead to politics. No organizations, and sects are organizations, can avoid that. In this connection, I have started to question just what JFM was raising WWX to be as an adult. Considering that WWX doesn't understand that a sect is an organization that is a part of the system, doesn't understand the reasons for hierarchy in an organization, what "exceeding your level of authority" means, was JFM raising WWX to be a member of the YMJ sect or a "free and unrestrained, attempt the impossible" rogue cultivator? Because JFM certainly did nothing to teach WWX discipline and reality. Look at JC, WWX and NHS talking at the Gusu courses about WWX's day at YMJ. Another thing that should be noted is that, with such a daily schedule, WWX being the head disciple means that he was nothing more than the the 15 y.o. head student of JFM, and not a part of the legislative/executive hierarchy of the YMJ sect?
As for JC and WWX remaining brothers, I am frankly of two minds on the subject. As much as I would like to believe in such a brotherhood, there are two aspect that make me doubt it. I may be mistaken, but I feel like the author of the novel made the 4 action characters, namely WWX, JC,. LWJ and NHS, in accordance with the basics of the four temperaments. JC is a choleric, WWX is a sanguine, LWJ is a phlegmatic and NHS is a melancholic. Each temperament has its pros and cons, as the weaknesses of each temperament are, at the same time, its strengths. In this case we have a choleric JC raised to be a pragmatic realist seeking safety and security for himself and his own, by his choleric mother, while chasing after the approval of his idealistic, out-of- touch with reality melancholic father, who, from what I see, has done everything to put into the sanguine WWX his own King Arthur and the Noble Knights of the Round Table idealism without teaching him about the everyday "dirty" realities of life and society, and how to exist and work within it.
Without going into the details of the negative sides of the choleric and sanguine temperaments, I have to mention that the sanguine that has not been taught discipline and self-regulation, unless his attention and interest are drawn to smth, will be something of a butterfly, in interest and relations, constantly chasing after new interests and new experiences and stimuli, discarding what they have lost interest in. WWX's "forgive-forget" come from this, actually. It is normal for a sanguine to "forgive-forget", because, as they constantly need new stimuli, they need to move on to the next great adventure, and a grudge will get in the way. Naturally, sanguines will expect that the same "forgive-forget" will be applied to them as well.
On the other hand, sanguines are exceptionally stress-resistant, nothing can get them down for long. Altogether, this makes sanguines great crisis managers and leaders, who easily lift people's spirits and get them to work together. The Tortoise of Slaughter piece is a good example. WWX is all that, and his heart is in the right place. However, the decisions of the 15-22 y.o. WWX in his first life are limited, because he simply couldn't include into his analysis of a situation what he didn't know, what he was not taught, was not trained for, had not learned, had not experienced. Hence, he is doing the absolutely right thing in ways that are sure to fail.
Cholerics are also leaders, but of a different kind. Adults are naturally explosive, but, having blown up, they quickly defuse. They are driven goal-oriented "doers" that turn all their focus on THE GOAL, whatever it is. Askers for help most certainly won't get a shoulder to cry on or compassion. What they will get is a detailed analysis of the asker's problem, analysis of what the asker did wrong, and every possible way out of the problem the choleric can think of. If the asker is close to the choleric, the asker can expect to be grabbed by the hand and dragged, screaming and hollering, by the most probably irritated choleric, who will now have THE GOAL of solving the asker's problem. Along the way the asker can expect to be given a scathing analysis of his/her intellect, described at length and in great detail. However, if the problem can be solved, it will be solved. Concentration on the goal and ways to achieve it leads to a decrease of empathy. Among the simplified 4 temperaments, the always-on- the-move, goal-oriented adult cholerics have the least need for emotional intimacy, and the highest level of natural emotional self-reliance and self-sufficiency. Cholerics will be more interested in feelings and emotions built on solid, stable, reliable partnerships than on brotherhood. While JC took WWX's famous promise very seriously, I do not know whether the sanguine WWX was giving a responsible promise, or whether it was a spur-of -the moment sanguine "look-at-the -bright-side" reaction to JC's distress. WWX's promise was, to JC, a promise of partnership based on their years together towards THE common GOAL of making YMJ a Great Sect, which is why he took it so seriously. Like all sects, YMJ is not just about cultivation, it is also gentry, and gentry means land that will be the center of the economics of their region, because the land is theirs. So, rebuilding the YMJ sect is also about restoring the economics of the region. It is jobes, trade, money etc for YMJ sect cultivators and people of the region. And then WWX, for no reason that JC knows of or can understand, except his assumption about WWX's heroics and the influence of demonic cultivation, turns his back on everything connecting him to JC, to the Jiangs and to YMJ to go crusading against the cultivation world by threatening it by his power. Does the cultivation world believe that this is because of the Wen Remnants? I doubt it. That would be idealism, not the economics, power and politics the cultivation world understands. And then WWX dies.
So I do not know whether the ties between JC and WWX over the period from when they were ~ 9 and to the fall of Lotus Pier were of actual brotherhood or of two misfits brought together by accident, who grew close and attached due to the circumstances of life at YMJ, habit and two really conflicting caretakers (JFM and YZY). I don't know.
When WWX comes back, 13+ years have passed. He is very intelligent, but mentally and emotionally he is still 22 y.o., with the same level of emotional development, the same level of knowledge and experience that he had at the time of this death. Meanwhile, JC has already grown into a full, mature 35+ y.o. independent, successful adult, solidly standing on his own two feet, and at the head of and surrounded by his rebuild sect 24/7, which, if the donghua figures are to be believed, has to have been restored to over 1500 people. What links WWX and JC is their childhood, but whether that will be reason enough for either of them wanting to stay connected? The 13+ years between 22 and 35 is a very big gap in many ways. They are in different social circles. WWX is "forgive-forget, lets move on", right at the beginning of adult life and a bright, new future. JC has closure, is already set in his ways and has a life of his own that does not include WWX in it.
I don't know, I really don't know, I just really don't know.🤕🤪😅.
Nie Huaisang the smartest man in the series
Xiao zhan I love you
It is a good thing that they each have a life to get back to. When routine returns to their lives after time has passed, JC and WWX will be able to build new relations as adults, more stable and more grounded.
Jiang Cheng's look of longing as he stares at Wei Ying when the clip starts broke my heart. These two gave up everything for each other and yet, so much pain and heartache between them, that their reconciliation was impossible 😢. How I wish for a better ending for them.
Honestly the series should continue to have season 2
We cant the actors experienced so much bashing that they cant endure it for the second time again
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@@michellesorel8441 why
Y si que lo amaba.. Esas miradas dicen mucho.. 😊👍
The children from the clans have more kindness, common sense and courage than their elders do. The future of the clans looks bright. Also, JC needs to find himself a wife and have an heir or chose an apprentice to lead the clan in the future. Hate him or love him, he also deserves happiness and a family of his own.
Que lindo esses irmãos: um se sacrificou pelo outro!!
I just want to hug jiang cheng you know, I wonder if A'Lin gives him enough hugs often
Jin Ling is the same as his uncle and father. His word comes out hard but it always done for their good. In the novel, after he rise to the position as the head of his sect. He mentioned to Wwx he doesn't want his uncle to help with problems at his sect because his uncle's surname isn't Jin(not someone from Jin's family). Wwx who is quick witted told him to choose better words because in his heart he only wanted to protect his uncle from being accused of mending with other clan's problems.
Nhớ mãi về Vân Mộng Song Kiệt.❤️
也心疼江澄
Loves always sweet or sour , but it hurts and happy too, just be nice and care not everyone know how to be but this 2 beautiful XZ and Yibo they found it as friend , as soulmates as brother, Loves them thats something they k ow how ,God Blessed Them both and all their true fans ❤❤❤
this drama always make me cry😭😭😭😭
he is angry bird but in silent is butterfly..maybe he look s
egois type person from outside,but actually he adore his brother..nobody know..only his sister understand him.
I was crying out loud seing this scene...
不知誰欠誰的，江就是個悲劇人物😢😢
In my mind there is no doubt that it is WWX who owes JC for all the tragedy. All could have been prevented, if WWX either told JC that he didn't have a core, or if WWX had talked to JC, as a subordinate to his Sect Leader, before making any final decisions about the Wens.
I am in love with this drama..
Man... I just finished rewatching The Untamed and MDZS... And im back shitting tears over and over again. Damn how many years has it been? I'm still stuck here. Literally no exit once you enter this 🥹 Hahhahahah i just can't... (I'm gonna reread the novel too)
Istg, I still can't get over over Jiang Cheng & Wei Ying scenes... Too much too much 😭😭😭 I'm crying so much over Jiang Cheng's pov, I empathize... He's very complicated character but he ain't bad, he love WeiYing so much... He's very misunderstood 🥹 I'm gonna protect him
This beautiful story made me feel like 📈📉📈📉📈📉💥💥💥 when you thought you're done crying and found yourself laughing over Wen Ning but then the next minute, you'll find yourself crying again 🥹😂 crying over the angst, then screaming over the subtle gay scenes then feeling secondhand embarrassment, then angry, then you'll cry again 😂
The title is a tad bit sad...but Wei Ying does belong to Lan Zhan 😍
The untamed is my most favourite wuxia drama.
Hai Ge Ge WEYING
Nghe nhạc ỷ nan bình buồn, thương cho cả 3 tỷ đệ
舅舅的直男表現，就算說出當年真相都沒用，捨不得面子，套不著漢子
Don't know when am going to be over this series
就
各自安好吧！❤️
hermanos por siempre
明知不可為而為之
他引開溫狗最後卻避而不談
江澄早在十五歲那年
就已經明白了江家家訓啊
您說得真好
Encontre puro comentario que no entiendo 🥺
Tiene una semana que termine de ver la serie, ahora estoy leyendo la novela.
Pero se convirtio de mis favoritas. 💕😭
Can you please tell me the novel name and where can I read it???
2 Brother ♥️♥️
العنوان يحمس الواحد 😭😭
X mi que JIANG CHENG se quedé con su orgullo,a fin de cuentas no sabe perdonar ni siquiera agradecer
Veo que no entendiste el personaje de Jiang Cheng
江澄是為了羡羡才沒金丹的....
結果江澄也是什麼都不說的性格，好像沒資格說魏嬰，哈哈
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 si los dos se hubieran dicho lo que se querían y que hicieron todo por los ellos 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 no los supero. El hubiera no existe 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Is it possible that there will be a season of the series "The Unruly"?
Obrigada pela o seu trabalho. 😘
Pode fazer com o word of honor?
😂😂😂😂 el título 😂😂😂
😭😭😭😭😭
Jia cheng mau minta maaf atas kesalahannya,tapi egonya tinggi.lebih baik kita selesaikan masalah di dunia!karna kalau kita tidak ada lagi penyelesaikan persoalan kita.didunia ini yang perlu dijaga ialah mulut dan tingkah laku!
Pura tristeza e alívio
What’s the name of the song at the end?
Yi nan ping ( yanli's theme )
ماكاله ياريت لو حكا معاه لو اعتذر منه لو عمل اي ردت فعل بس مافي
Ye music ka name kya hai?
Yo mas creo que el titulo sebasa en un libro que hay
They should have communicated better😭
In which episode
Season 2 Hindi MX player ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
What kind of title is this
💜❤
Osea que A-Cheng y Wei wuxian pueden estar juntos ? OoO
What he meant at 5:18?
He meant himself to return to lotus pier, his nephew Jin ling to return to Jin clan( because sect leader was dead and Jin ling should be their to claim his right to throne) and for Wie Wuxian to went with Lan Zhan to GesuLan . In novel Jiang Cheng explain this to Jin ling.
He was trying to tell Jin Ling that Wei Wu Xian doesn't belong to their side anymore so to speak. Meaning Lotus Pier were no longer his home, everyone should go back to where they belong but Wei Wu Xian's home is with Lan Zhan now.
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Como assim os cria e irmão
WAIT DID HE FALL IN LOVE WITH WEI YING???
Novel = yes, live action hard to tell..
@@kirukbalgar im doomed rn
@@kirukbalgar I don't think that's a yes in novel too. It's not clearly portrayed. Just that he knew something going on with Wwx and Lz way earlier and he doesn't like it, never in the novel stated he fancy Wwx romantically though. Unless the I missed something
@@ms.chuisin7727 JC had no romantic feelings for WWX in the novel. You are quite right.
No, JC had never had any romantic feelings for WWX.
Hola/hello
Подскажите пожалуйста название на русском языке, заранее благодарю ♥️
Обычно в поисковике - о дораме - The Untamed, рядом с чем стоит Неукротимый: Повелитель Ченьцин. Аниме - Магистр Дьявольского Культа .
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🔥🌹😘🔥❤️🔥Sutsuwteud 0:24
That is a ridiculous name for the video.
Este título suena a incesto 😐😐😐
Pensei a mesma coisa hahahahaha
No son hermanos de sangre 😘
@@alexat.s.e.u.498 pero son hermanastros. ambos crecen juntos y eso puede sonar un poco raro. (perdón si escribí algo mal, estoy usando el traductor KKK)
Aunque sea extraño por haber crecido como hermanos, siguen sin serlo de sangre, no es incesto. Aunque el padre de Jiang Cheng trató a WWX como un hijo, sigue sin serlo realmente, WWX tuvo sus propios padres que lo amaron hasta su muerte.
É totalmente estranho e contrário a obra original. Quem leu os livros sabe que em nenhum momento existe este tipo de relação entre Wei WuXian e Jiang Cheng
Chủ bi nhi
I dislike Jiang Cheng so much...
小'赤
没看明白，怎么同性恋了？
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