Agreed, im a fan of f1 that started watching indy last year, and i do like indy more than f1, just wish their broadcast quality would get as good as f1.
@@tweek218 it's quite infuriating. If they moved it only ever so slightly to the left or right then it might not be as bad. Hut a full 90 degree change makes zero sense
@@tweek218I think the rotating cameras are cool for the occasional rear view, but I agree that they shouldn’t do pans during passes as much. I think there is even room to experiment with maybe a fixed sideways view. The rotating camera during an overtake is just bad.
Ferruci needs to calm the F down, for his own sake - he’s trying to be aggressive and make a name for himself but he’s always involved in incidents even from Practice nowadays lol If I was his team owner I’d be thinking seriously about what his future holds.
These last 2 years have proven how bad the decision to leave Belle Isle was for racing. They tell me this event makes money but lord is it hard to watch.
That was a better track, but speaking in terms of local interest, folks around here didn't like losing total access to the island for a weekend or that local businesses really didn't see much lift from tourism since all of the spending happened at Indy booths on the island and not at local businesses. I was at the race over the weekend and you definitely saw a livelier downtown vs. the years it's been on Belle Isle. Hopefully, they can retool the city track to something better because I don't see the city/state allowing it on the island again.
The original Detroit street circuit from 89-91 was a proper ball to the walls street circuit, this however is a completely butchered version of that track.
If Indycar is a intent on continuing with this circuit for the foreseeable future, some of the corners, especially the first one, need to be adjusted or redone. Way too many collisions/cautions.
Drive to the car, track, tyres and weather first, then to the opposition second. Then penalties for mistakes should be tough and stupidity even tougher. Penalise stupidity and you will see better driving.
@@AagoMcFly The rules encourage dive bombing. Stop the slower car in front from blocking, and then their is no need to dive bomb. BUT.....when you dive bomb and the other driver lets you by to avoid a wreck, then it is hailed as a brilliant piece of driving. When the driver in front DELIBERATELY turns in EARLY to wreck you ( and often himself ), then the dive bomber is blamed......even when he had the corner and had pulled off a brilliant piece of driving.
It's a shame ! Lundgaard is not penalized the first time on the first crash of the race ! And lap 53, Lundgaard did the same drive through on Grosjean... He has to be penalized the first time to avoid other drive trough !
Race was “ok” but definitely INDY needs to do something about the track, too many contacts among the drivers, making the track wider will give us a better race weekend in future races (( i know that it is a street circuit and that it might be impossible to do it all around the track but at least fix the spots that gave us an “ok” race to change it into a great race))
Aside from Barber, where he started 16th and moved up to 5th, Alexander Rossi has not finished outside the top 10 this year (in case you don’t remember, his pit crew failed to secure his back right tire which ended his race at Barber). Detroit is his 2nd consecutive top 5 finish. He’s my underdog to win the chip this year.
Yo pienso lo mismo, hubo adelantamientos y accidentes que no salieron en la transmisión. Hay que dar información a quien observa la carrera, saber cuantas paradas se hicieron en boxes y en que vuelta. Lo del equipo Ganassi fue increíble, vieron mucho antes lo que termino sucediendo.
Mark Martin holds the record for the most wins in the International Race of Champions (IROC) series with 13, which he set in 2005. Martin also won the most IROC championship titles with five.
That is definitely not racing, but a demolition derby, those cars are very difficult to drive, in top of that the track is very bumpy and narrow, every race except for the Indianápolis 500, there is not strategy but complete chaos, pit line is a hazardous place to work, but the spectators pay to see a circus, what a shame that no capable people is involved in race planning and direction
This was a lesson in how to destroy all the goodwill generated by the Indy 500. IndyCar was wise to drop the Nashville tourist route they pretended was a racing circuit. Detroit is yet another tourist route. It cannot be raced on with anything bigger than a shifter cart or with less suspension than a trophy truck. It is time to move to a different location, IndyCar. Detroit is an embarrassment that completely destroyed the momentum that was generated by a brilliant Indy 500.
What happened to Lundgaard? The graphics says he pitted on the last lap, but nothing was said in neither the high lights here on in the full race coverage.
Shameful,that this Race, is taken away,in the City,that is known as the MOTORCITY!! There is NO Reason,NOT to,show This Race,Locally in METRO Detroit!! Not Everyone has Cable/Satellite Tv! G
While I have fond memories of watching F1 racing on the streets of Detroit, the cars are just too large and fast (and delicate) to race on the rough streets of the Motor City. At least Belle Isle is less heavily traffic used so is a smoother circuit.
Incredible every restarts was push back by hairpin carnage, pourchaire debut bit distracted by contacts, Ericsson late charge didn't paid off, the champs and experts got punched all in front power who killed his strategy, Palou & Newgarden meet eachother at the hairpin, herta saw the gap but didn't make the turn, Grosjean was kicked off from a bull, Dixon needs now 9 wins to equalise AJ Foyt and by the way taken another historical title 👍🏆🍾🤩⚡
As a F1 fan, the race in downtown of Detroit wasnt so good because of many narrow corners, collisions and penalties to the drivers. One of the worst race in 2024 Indycar season. ☹☹☹☹☹☹
Someone in a previous comment mentioned Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots, your comment made me think of SSP Smash-up Derby Race set, another one of those Saturday morning TV ads from fifth grade or so. We definitely need to see some changes next year.
19:46 indy cars are tough. Numerous f1 cars would have to retire just from the front wing bumps. You cough on a f1 car wrong and it will be parked for the day.
CART era had more technology, cost more to race, cars were fastest ever in 1996. Also Championship-winning F1 drivers raced in CART. Nigel Mansell, Emerson Fittipaldi, Jacques Villeneuve to name a few. These cars are robust, but are spec. cars, so if an F1 driver jumped into one, they would be no faster. Wait Grosjean IS an F1 driver!
Had to watch a 30 min. highlight vid on youtube because the race was not televised in my area. NTT you need to reevaluate your contract with NBC because they are doing a lousy job.
This was an aweful ugly race at Detroit, it reminded me of why I quit watching NASCAR with their constant wrecks. Indycar needs to do something at narrow tracks like Detroit like maybe (single file starts and NO passing allowed for the first 2 laps) so cars can get in a line and get up to speed for a couple laps before they can even try to pass. Allowing them to bunch up on a narrow track with cold tires makes for ugly racing.
Root race track lane lots of waves no escape area very hard steering wheel because it doesn't have power steering, you have to steer with your arm All of this leaves the margin for error almost zero in addition to many yellow flags that allowed a very wide variation in strategies Those who prefer predictable and monotonous races like F1 do not have enough IQ to appreciate this
I've said it last year, I say it this year. This track is bulls*it. I don't understand why they are racing there. Is Detroit really this bad, that they didn't find a better track? 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Ferrucci should be banned from IndyCar and ALL forms of motorsports for life. Destroyed Helio and Kyffin's race, and his behaviour on and off-track was disgusting
Scott McLaughlin needs to start thinking about stepping out and trying more. 2019 v8 supercars: 18 wins. 2020: 14 wins during the biggest hoax to destroy economy worldwide. 2021: 0 2022: 3 2023: 0 2024: 1 No good if i was his manager for the amount of skill he has. (Top 100 drivers in the world) -DriverDB Top 100- POS, DRIVER, CHAMPIONSHIP, POINTS, CHANGE. Pos: 01 Driver: Max VERSTAPPEN Championship: Formula1 Points: 2204.55 Change: +2 02 Lewis HAMILTON Formula 1 2130.8 -3.4 03 Sergio PÉREZ Formula 1 2034.25 +2.8 04Charles LECLERC Formula 1 2023.45 +3 05 Raffaele MARCIELLO British GT Championship - GT3 1999.6 -5.4 06 Carlos SAINZ Formula 1 1992.25 +1.8 07 Larry TEN VOORDE Porsche Carrera Cup Germany 1990.25 - 08 Shane VAN GISBERGEN ARCA Series 1956.65 -6.3 09 Jamie WHINCUP Intercontinental GT Challenge 1946.35 - 10 Lando NORRIS Formula 1 1946.1 +1.3 11 Scott DIXON IndyCar 1940.9 - 12 Kévin ESTRE 24 Hours of the Nürburgring - SP9 1920.2 - 13 Josef NEWGARDEN IndyCar 1914.9 - +1 14 Mirko BORTOLOTTI DTM 1912.3 +3.3 -1 15 Dries VANTHOOR British GT Championship - GT3 1909.25 - 16 Fernando ALONSO Formula 1 1905.5 +1 17 Alex PALOU IndyCar 1903.05 - 18 Mitch EVANS FIA Formula E 1901.9 - 19 Chaz MOSTERT V8 Supercars Series 1898.55 - 20 Scott MCLAUGHLIN IndyCar 1892.1 - +1 21 George RUSSELL Formula 1 1888.15 +1.3 -1 22 Ashley SUTTON British Touring Car Championship 1887.4 - +1 23 Kyle LARSON IndyCar 1878.8 +1.5
Typical demolition derby! Formula 1 cars could run that street course much quicker and with nary an incident. F1 drivers outclass Indy Car drivers. That's all there is to it.
What a race that was. Endless safety car laps and constant onboard cameras rotating at the wrong time to miss all the action. Classic
Agreed, im a fan of f1 that started watching indy last year, and i do like indy more than f1, just wish their broadcast quality would get as good as f1.
I HATE the rotating cameras. It ruins the driver’s prospective and the real direction of the car. Throws everything off.
@@tweek218 it's quite infuriating. If they moved it only ever so slightly to the left or right then it might not be as bad. Hut a full 90 degree change makes zero sense
Money does wonders. If indycar could get f1 money for a couple of years i think it would explode @sd5rtgfcdgfdc888
@@tweek218I think the rotating cameras are cool for the occasional rear view, but I agree that they shouldn’t do pans during passes as much. I think there is even room to experiment with maybe a fixed sideways view. The rotating camera during an overtake is just bad.
Ferruci needs to calm the F down, for his own sake - he’s trying to be aggressive and make a name for himself but he’s always involved in incidents even from Practice nowadays lol
If I was his team owner I’d be thinking seriously about what his future holds.
His owner is AJ Foyt so he's probably fine with it
Ferruci never touched Will Power…….until Power’s car came to a halt.
These last 2 years have proven how bad the decision to leave Belle Isle was for racing.
They tell me this event makes money but lord is it hard to watch.
That was a better track, but speaking in terms of local interest, folks around here didn't like losing total access to the island for a weekend or that local businesses really didn't see much lift from tourism since all of the spending happened at Indy booths on the island and not at local businesses. I was at the race over the weekend and you definitely saw a livelier downtown vs. the years it's been on Belle Isle. Hopefully, they can retool the city track to something better because I don't see the city/state allowing it on the island again.
Can we swap this track out for Watkins Glen or something? What an awful track
The original Detroit street circuit from 89-91 was a proper ball to the walls street circuit, this however is a completely butchered version of that track.
Its not a track that inspires good racing.
ALL OF THIS
If Indycar is a intent on continuing with this circuit for the foreseeable future, some of the corners, especially the first one, need to be adjusted or redone. Way too many collisions/cautions.
In fairness a lot of those collisions were caused by some terrible driving. Everyone seemed to be playing bumper cars.
Drive to the car, track, tyres and weather first, then to the opposition second.
Then penalties for mistakes should be tough and stupidity even tougher.
Penalise stupidity and you will see better driving.
Perhaps the drivers shouldn't divebomb from one mile away like it's an online open lobby.
Most cautions were caused by terrible driving.
The way drivers were diving inside going way too fast was the cause of most of that. Completely avoidable.
@@AagoMcFly
The rules encourage dive bombing.
Stop the slower car in front from blocking, and then their is no need to dive bomb.
BUT.....when you dive bomb and the other driver lets you by to avoid a wreck, then it is hailed as a brilliant piece of driving.
When the driver in front DELIBERATELY turns in EARLY to wreck you ( and often himself ), then the dive bomber is blamed......even when he had the corner and had pulled off a brilliant piece of driving.
I was watching a Demolition Derby and then an INDY race broke out.
I saw the demolition derby. Was the IndyCar race televised?
@@billmartin1010 It was on NBC Sports but not every affiliate broadcasted it. I watched highlights on TH-cam.
It's a shame ! Lundgaard is not penalized the first time on the first crash of the race ! And lap 53, Lundgaard did the same drive through on Grosjean...
He has to be penalized the first time to avoid other drive trough !
Think its actually Pourchaire who taps Power into the spin, but super aggressive from Lundgaard going down by the inside wall on Lap1
Post-Indy 500 race should've been a Saturday double-header with the NASCAR Trucks at Gateway instead. This was an embarrassment.
Completely agree. Makes a mockery of the sport
detroit street track:
cars blocking track.
macao first 90' corner:
first time???
Scott Dixon is a legend!
Race was “ok” but definitely INDY needs to do something about the track, too many contacts among the drivers, making the track wider will give us a better race weekend in future races (( i know that it is a street circuit and that it might be impossible to do it all around the track but at least fix the spots that gave us an “ok” race to change it into a great race))
Beauty of Indy racing "we never know" its always exciting to watch :)
please go back to Belle Isle, this track is simply terrible
The Best style
The people who had the pit side seats got the most action. Them and the people at turn 6.Rock`em sock`em robots.
"Aww, my block's knocked off"
(But you can press it right back again!)
Saturday morning TV, 1970-something😅
What a chaos race that was.
Another cracking win for the master.👍👍👍
La clave de la victoria de Dixon fue no entrar a poner neumáticos de lluvia.
Thank you for posting 👍👍
What it even a race with all the caution laps we had??? You don’t need 10 laps of caution for a single spin.
That was because Indycar penalized Will Power and was trying to sort the order
this is the next race on my bucket list to attend with my son!! it always looks like and exciting race!!
Should there be a week off in between the 500 and Detroit? This race was sooo sloppy from almost everyone.
Aside from Barber, where he started 16th and moved up to 5th, Alexander Rossi has not finished outside the top 10 this year (in case you don’t remember, his pit crew failed to secure his back right tire which ended his race at Barber). Detroit is his 2nd consecutive top 5 finish. He’s my underdog to win the chip this year.
This track is brutal!
Awesome guys thank you but I think you need to improve streaming quality like F1 or minimum like a MotoGP
Yo pienso lo mismo, hubo adelantamientos y accidentes que no salieron en la transmisión. Hay que dar información a quien observa la carrera, saber cuantas paradas se hicieron en boxes y en que vuelta. Lo del equipo Ganassi fue increíble, vieron mucho antes lo que termino sucediendo.
Mark Martin holds the record for the most wins in the International Race of Champions (IROC) series with 13, which he set in 2005. Martin also won the most IROC championship titles with five.
Belle Isle > Downtown Detroit
This Detroit 'track' is so bad, such a shame Belle Isle isn't viable.
Or just leave Detroit and go to Cleveland 😍
This race was like iracing lobbies with the amount of cautions
Crazy race, lots of fun to watch
Dixon, the winner of the Indycar Demo derby in Detroit.
Glad I recorded it and didn't watch it live.
That is definitely not racing, but a demolition derby, those cars are very difficult to drive, in top of that the track is very bumpy and narrow, every race except for the Indianápolis 500, there is not strategy but complete chaos, pit line is a hazardous place to work, but the spectators pay to see a circus, what a shame that no capable people is involved in race planning and direction
SCOTT DIXON ROAD COURSE WIN IN MOTOWN
SCOTT DIXON ROAD COURSE WIN IN MOTOWN
This was a lesson in how to destroy all the goodwill generated by the Indy 500. IndyCar was wise to drop the Nashville tourist route they pretended was a racing circuit. Detroit is yet another tourist route. It cannot be raced on with anything bigger than a shifter cart or with less suspension than a trophy truck. It is time to move to a different location, IndyCar. Detroit is an embarrassment that completely destroyed the momentum that was generated by a brilliant Indy 500.
Street circuits, high risk, high reward if you get right.
What happened to Lundgaard?
The graphics says he pitted on the last lap, but nothing was said in neither the high lights here on in the full race coverage.
Shameful,that this Race, is taken away,in the City,that is known as the MOTORCITY!! There is NO Reason,NOT to,show This Race,Locally in METRO Detroit!! Not Everyone has Cable/Satellite Tv! G
While I have fond memories of watching F1 racing on the streets of Detroit, the cars are just too large and fast (and delicate) to race on the rough streets of the Motor City. At least Belle Isle is less heavily traffic used so is a smoother circuit.
17:59
Rossi quietly having a decent season thus far 👍
La parte antigua del parking que se mantiene tiene pinta de ser donde están los transformadores de electricidad
lol so many drivers doing kamikaze moves at turn 3 😄
GO CANAPINO GO!
Ferruci really talked all that trash, only to do that in the race? What a clown.
I feel like because this race was onpeacock they drug out the caution laps for tv tine
Excelente!!!! 👍🏻
Incredible every restarts was push back by hairpin carnage, pourchaire debut bit distracted by contacts, Ericsson late charge didn't paid off, the champs and experts got punched all in front power who killed his strategy, Palou & Newgarden meet eachother at the hairpin, herta saw the gap but didn't make the turn, Grosjean was kicked off from a bull, Dixon needs now 9 wins to equalise AJ Foyt and by the way taken another historical title 👍🏆🍾🤩⚡
77 robbed.
I should have just waited for this instead of watching live, this is basically all the green flag laps of the race
22:20 can someone explain how that wasn't blocking in reaction to Rossi's move?
so, grossjean got "feenix" on his rear wing, should ferrucci have " idiot"?
As a F1 fan, the race in downtown of Detroit wasnt so good because of many narrow corners, collisions and penalties to the drivers. One of the worst race in 2024 Indycar season. ☹☹☹☹☹☹
Someone in a previous comment mentioned Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots, your comment made me think of SSP Smash-up Derby Race set, another one of those Saturday morning TV ads from fifth grade or so. We definitely need to see some changes next year.
we lost Bell Isle for THIS?!?!
19:46 indy cars are tough. Numerous f1 cars would have to retire just from the front wing bumps. You cough on a f1 car wrong and it will be parked for the day.
Stopped watching the race after the 7 caution and hopefully that was all the cautions
The old Belle Isle races were usually pretty good. Seems like another poor decision by Penske and Company.
#BackToBelleIsle
Starting to think these cars need anti stall or starters at this point.
chevrolet:
"together let's drive"
whatta actual f*ck?????? you got four steering wheels in your chevy's...
This is basically all the green
CART era had more technology, cost more to race, cars were fastest ever in 1996. Also Championship-winning F1 drivers raced in CART. Nigel Mansell, Emerson Fittipaldi, Jacques Villeneuve to name a few. These cars are robust, but are spec. cars, so if an F1 driver jumped into one, they would be no faster. Wait Grosjean IS an F1 driver!
Jsem fanouškem Indycar od roku 1990, tohle je pro mě asi jedna z nejhorších tratí v této sérii. Líbil se mi Belle Isle Park, krásná trať.
Had to watch a 30 min. highlight vid on youtube because the race was not televised in my area.
NTT you need to reevaluate your contract with NBC because they are doing a lousy job.
This was an aweful ugly race at Detroit, it reminded me of why I quit watching NASCAR with their constant wrecks. Indycar needs to do something at narrow tracks like Detroit like maybe (single file starts and NO passing allowed for the first 2 laps) so cars can get in a line and get up to speed for a couple laps before they can even try to pass. Allowing them to bunch up on a narrow track with cold tires makes for ugly racing.
stock car racing - awesome
Root race
track lane
lots of waves
no escape area
very hard steering wheel because it doesn't have power steering, you have to steer with your arm
All of this leaves the margin for error almost zero
in addition to many yellow flags that allowed a very wide variation in strategies
Those who prefer predictable and monotonous races like F1 do not have enough IQ to appreciate this
Torpedo everywhere..wow..lol
The driving standards in this race are terrible
I've said it last year, I say it this year. This track is bulls*it. I don't understand why they are racing there. Is Detroit really this bad, that they didn't find a better track? 🤮🤮🤮🤮
It's a blue city, has been for decades.
That should be telling you something.
Highlights?
Hey... Uhhh... This track blows
"Yeah...yeah..heh-he-he-heh..it SUCKS! It SUCKS! Heh-he-he-heh"
Herta seems to always make a dumbass mistake every race.
So much irresponsible divebombs out of nowhere. These guys need to get penalized.
Ferrucci should be banned from IndyCar and ALL forms of motorsports for life. Destroyed Helio and Kyffin's race, and his behaviour on and off-track was disgusting
On track yes! but the things he said of track wasn't that bad.
He caused one accident and served his penalty. Other drivers did more and worse.
Don't even need to see one Lap to see this ,a Lousytrack ! ,turns ,not even two cars could get thru ,let alone more ,Rediculous !
Worst track in racing ... horseshit race more than half the race run under caution 100% fail on the part of Indycar
This track is next level dogshit.
Best track, keep this track Forever 🔐
On the contrary… it is terrible. Not worthy of a place on any motor sport calendar
@colinmchattie4698 On the contrary, Belle Isle was snoozefest, you don't want drivers testing their limits? Then go watch F1
@@colinmchattie4698 this track good for concentration & focus
This is the worst "racetrack" I've seen in my life. Why Indycar races here having COTA available is beyond me.
Track is trash
Scott McLaughlin needs to start thinking about stepping out and trying more.
2019 v8 supercars: 18 wins.
2020: 14 wins during the biggest hoax to destroy economy worldwide.
2021: 0
2022: 3
2023: 0
2024: 1
No good if i was his manager for the amount of skill he has.
(Top 100 drivers in the world)
-DriverDB Top 100-
POS, DRIVER, CHAMPIONSHIP, POINTS, CHANGE.
Pos: 01
Driver: Max VERSTAPPEN
Championship: Formula1
Points: 2204.55
Change: +2
02 Lewis HAMILTON Formula 1
2130.8
-3.4
03 Sergio PÉREZ Formula 1
2034.25
+2.8
04Charles LECLERC
Formula 1
2023.45
+3
05 Raffaele MARCIELLO British GT Championship - GT3
1999.6
-5.4
06 Carlos SAINZ Formula 1
1992.25
+1.8
07 Larry TEN VOORDE Porsche Carrera Cup Germany
1990.25
-
08 Shane VAN GISBERGEN ARCA Series
1956.65
-6.3
09 Jamie WHINCUP Intercontinental GT Challenge
1946.35
-
10 Lando NORRIS Formula 1
1946.1
+1.3
11 Scott DIXON
IndyCar
1940.9
-
12 Kévin ESTRE 24 Hours of the Nürburgring - SP9
1920.2
-
13 Josef NEWGARDEN IndyCar
1914.9
-
+1
14 Mirko BORTOLOTTI DTM
1912.3
+3.3
-1
15 Dries VANTHOOR British GT Championship - GT3
1909.25
-
16 Fernando ALONSO Formula 1
1905.5
+1
17 Alex PALOU IndyCar
1903.05
-
18 Mitch EVANS FIA Formula E
1901.9
-
19 Chaz MOSTERT V8 Supercars Series
1898.55
-
20 Scott MCLAUGHLIN IndyCar
1892.1
-
+1
21 George RUSSELL Formula 1
1888.15
+1.3
-1
22 Ashley SUTTON British Touring Car Championship
1887.4
-
+1
23 Kyle LARSON IndyCar
1878.8
+1.5
You get a Like just for putting all that stuff together 😊😊
Typical demolition derby! Formula 1 cars could run that street course much quicker and with nary an incident. F1 drivers outclass Indy Car drivers. That's all there is to it.
So boring “race”.
Endless slow laps behind the pace car.
Just make a decision and pick any other track in America.
This one s***s.!☹️👎
This track sucks! Everyone knows it!!!
Такая отстояная трасса мрак ниочем вообще , куда дели старьій добрьій Бельайланд??
Such an awful track this is. No clue why they keep insisting on keeping this included on the roster.