@@edmundovilladelreyiii2444 lalo na nung mamatay si kobe sa stock x parang 150 isang sapatos meron naging 1000 usd kaya sana rin maging gr rin mga sneakers
Di ren. Yung bilang kase ng pairs ang nagdidikta ng presyo ng item. Kung titignan nga mas mahal pato sa jordan dior eh kase 150 pairs lang ang narelease. The price will go higher as time flies. Saka nakita ko den sa groups na may mga nakalusot den na di nagsuot ng shoes.
wearing the pair won't hurt the resell value since if it's true na pinasuot talaga lahat ng pair sa lahat ng nanalo sa raffle..di the best pair anywhere would be a used pair, still
Big big big RESPECT to Nike and Jordan here in the Ph. So many people (myself included ._. ) can't even get any hype/ limited/ special edition sneakers because maraming nambabalya at namamakyaw for their own benefit. And it's honestly soo tiring. In the end, hindi parin namin napigilan ang mga gahaman (gahamans gonna make gahaman (ano daw?? Lol)) but, this is still progress and a step in the right direction.
Hi sir Carlo! Im one of the few people who claimed a pair 10am. YES they asked us to wear for picture taking ONLY on the court. Then it is up to the owner if he/she wants to wear it or put it in the box again. So FAKE NEWS yung need mo magbasketball and FAKE NEWS din yung di mo sya pwede hubadin until makalabas ka ng building. Probably style lang ng mga big resellers to para madegrade yung value para mas mababa nila mabili hahahah Mahirap talaga yung inggit ang umiiral guys =) #PagInggitPikit Thanks!
@@joemersiploc8510 resellers whose main intention is to buy and profit from the items. I'd say they're not true patrons/fans of the product and only wish to profit from it.
Choice ng buyer yan if they will wear it same goes to other limited items instead gawin nila disqualified na lang sa future releases. Pwede rin marketing nila yan so everyone knows sa sneaker scene na may Jordan branch sa Manila.
Right for me. sa panahon ngayon kasi ang kadalasang nakakakuha na ay yung mga gustong makakuha for reselling at hindi yung gustong makuha for personal use
Kaya nga eh,pero wala eh lahat napapa andar ng pera. If you'll observe it pare parehong tao nalang nakakakuha ng mga snkrs at hype shoes ngayon, kahit sa j4 manila nga puro kilalang reseller at tao ang pinili nila. There's really no raffle at all and it's all possible dahil may cut den mga tao sa nike nyan
This is a great move by jordan to somehow "prevent" reselling, though I don't really think that this will "hurt" the reselling game for the J4 Manila's lalo na 150 pairs lang..
Hi Sir Carlo, Im one of the 150 that won the Jordan 4 Manila and I was not asked naman to play basketball but was asked to wear the shoes until I exit the store. For me I hated the Idea of then letting us wear the shoes, honestly its our property na since we PAID for it, we purchased the sneaker, hindi naman sya free na para i dictate nila sa amin to wear it, second is for safety as you mentioned a lot of people were waiting outside to offer to buy the shoes, and I experienced it also, what if we were mugged diba like what happened sa states before that people were getting mugged and sneakers are stolen whenever may release si Jordan, some were even killed...para kami naglalakad ng naka expose yung 350k na pera (since thats the resell price of the shoe) not everyone that won are resellers, like what i said, we won the raffle fair and square and we paid for the Item, so its our property already... did jordan brand let those who purchased the Dior wear the sneakers sa store? Ginawa nilang uto uto yung mga pinaglaro pa nila ng basketball. It was done in bad taste
If I'm not mistaken, there's a store in Japan or somewhere in Asia where they make their customers wear the AJ1 then do push ups with it. Parang ang gusto pa ata eh hindinka aalis hangga't walang crease ang sapatos. Hahaha
I think that was nice. I understand naman yung resell community pero sana mabalik yung culture na hindi lahat ng releases ng Jordan or any other brand is yung resell kaagad yung iniisip kapag icocop.
Tama lang yan, wala nang re-sell na yan, kaya nauubos stocks dahil sa kanila, sa Titan na lang bumili mga resellers ang alam ko ok sa Titan ang mga resellers.
Dropped by the store last night and they allowed walk-in although there was a 30-min wait. One J4 Manila size 9 "winner" was behind me for the till and he was pulled out of the line and accommodated separately. They didn't require him to wear his as the box came totally wrapped so it won't be identified as such.
ok lang cguro na sukatin to chek if thats your size talaga parang normal costumer na nagsusukat pag bibili ng kiks but forcing someone or you not just to wear and play basketball parang medyo rude kasi parang sila na ang nagdecide kung saan mo ibebreak in yung new shoes mo kaya lang rules nila so we have to follow..just my opinion ...
Very well said Sir Carlo. Di naman ako against sa rules at yun nga may rights sila to do it. Sana nga mapunta yung mga pairs sa mga taong iki-keep yung pair tapos if-flex sa socmed nila na you have that pair. - Bitter here kasi di naka-cop ng Dark Mocha for keeps. 😔
Kudos to Jordan Manila for doing this para at least naman ma regulate ang resellers, kasi parang people who really want to wear it needs to spend a lot of money to buy it sa resellers. Kasi for me reselling culture really hurts the middle Income shoe enthusiasts tho it creates a sense of exclusivity & leveraging the brand. Hopefully in the future tamang balance lang ng price and branding para naman wider scope of enthusiasts ang ma reach 😉🥰
I would have asked them to make an employee wear the pair (23 of 150) they have in the case. Some people want them as pristine unworn pairs for their collections. That was not stated in the rules when signing up for the raffle.
Used for a few minutes or not, it is still a fortune for someone who won the raffle and paid for it for retail. You can't even pick up Php 500 on the floor right now. Hopefully, they can be thankful for what they got instead of ranting about a few thousands they might have lost because they wore the shoes.
Totoo naman na papasuotin pero rules kasi un nila. Bago kami pumasok sa loob sinabihan na kami na susuotin for pictorial and documentation purposes (pero pwede ring anti resell). Ung iba sinabi pinatakbo o what. Pero 3 freethrows lang for video and pics lang naman. In the end of the day mabebenta parin ng 300k to 400k ang pair kahit used for pictorial.
Kung nakalagay sa rules na required sila isuot in the store after winning it via raffle then that’s fine. Pero kung Wala naman written policy about it, and they forced you to wear it. That’s freaking illegal
It might even be like Banksy's Girl with a balloon. Not about how prestine the shoe..it might even sky rocket the price of the shoe because of the experience. I hope they rerelease them numbered how many island in the Philippines. A bit more symbolic to our country and more people can cop.
That is new and very exciting being there for the first time it release and plying hoops for sure there a lot of photos and memories will be posted even in the store itself.
ang maganda po sa jordan 4 manila ay ung sinabi nyo...tama po lahat ng sinabi nyo....salamat ppo lagi sa mga positive na pagtanggap sa ibat ibang sitwasyon....
Sa tingin ko sir, gusto lang talaga ng store na maiwasan yung mga reseller na nagtatake advantage dahil nakacopped sila nung pair. Kaya sa paraan na nasuot na yung pair, ibig sabihin di na macoconsider na brand new ng nga balak na magpurchase sa mga resellers.
their shop..their rules.nothing even DTI can do about it imho but as boss Carlo Ople mentioned, i do think that it won't affect the resell value of it since it's limited to 150 and if Nike really did made them all 150 raffle winmers to wear them then at the moment..a used pair is the best pair there is.
If indeed FORCED then they should raise a complaint but i believe there are mechanics before joining the raffle. If stated there that you need to wear the shoe once bought then so be it.
I guess, Jordan did the right thing. Kasi Sneaker Collecting is about buying sneakers and keeping it for yourself diba? I mean at least that’s what I knew about Sneaker Collecting
I agree Carlo. There is only 150 pairs and even if worn they will still be able to sell if they choose to sell it. I like their idea of making customers wear the shoe when purchasing. I feel it should be a policy for most shoe stores. Can’t even get a shoe for retail anymore as people always buying to resell :/
i’m not really a fan of buying from resellers.. just try copping for retail, if i didn’t get a W.. just move on and wait for next release 😉 good day everyone
Jordan did the right thing in order to prevent (or hopefully reduce) instances of reselling hype sneakers. Maganda rin sana kung mag-implement ang Jordan ng follow-up sa mga nagpurchase after a month to check if in possession pa din sila nung pairs na yun. If wala na sa kanila, then implement Rule 13: if caught reselling, banned from future purchases. Pero sure ako na mahirap iimplement 'to. Hassle sa part ng Jordan. They should be willing to go an extra mile to enforce their rules.
I agree on the "Claim and Wear" pakulo of Jordan Store. I mean yeah, shoes are made to wear, NOT TO RESELL. This "pakulo" can help reduce the numbers of flippers and resellers/scalpers or whatever call for them. ✌🏻
What Jordan Manila did was not only downright abusive, but forcing buyers to play indoor basketball in the midst of a COVID pandemic puts lives at risk.
I think okay lang naman. Kung ikaw seller, walang pagbabago sa price nyan dahil lahat ng 150 pairs eh gamit na. So nagequalize lang din. Same with the buyer. You will not be able to find unused pair.
Good job NIKE/JORDAN BRAND.....Thanx for the info sir Carlo....hope NIKE/JORDAN will find a way to stop RED TAPE in there stores...kawawa kaming mga taga probinsiya, feeling yata ng NIKE/JORDAN taga Metro Manila lang nakaka afford ng new releases nila.
Hi Tukayo,, i think what nike did was for the good of the true buyers.. ayaw lang nila na ung makakabili ay pagkakitaan pa ng malaki ung shoes sa reselling. If I am not mistaken ginawa na rin nila yan sa store in the U.S..
Kung sutil yung bibili ng resell, since numbered yung pair and if may database ang Jordan PH sa kung sino nakakuha ng specific number, pd ireport sa Jordan PH just to get even since may sanction pag na patunayan na binenta nga, just saying.
The store's policy only take effects within the store. Selling it is a different story. Since it was already purchased. Then it is legally owned by the buyer unless there is a signed agreement about selling it. I am not really into buying and selling my own pairs as I treat my shoes as my treasure.
Well I didn't get the opportunity to cop one, but if the rules that you need to wear it in store is in the terms and condition for the raffle then no issue with that or terms and conditions may vary as per management, those buyers may had missed reading it, but if those terms are not stated on it or its and impromptu decision of the management then there could be a legal issue with it. But what the hell you get in line to buy the shoes and shoes are meant to be wore.
I think they shouldn't have done that since it's the buyers' or customers' right to do whatever they want to do on the things that they buy. Because at the end of the day, they bought it and it's their inventory already, and Nike or Jordan Philippines doesn't have the right to force them to wear it if they don't want to.
You're right sir Carlo. Besides, we should be happy because this might mean future collabs between Nike or other big brands and other local brands here in PH
ok lang yan. on the other hand ang mali ay yung system nila ng appointment. nagpapasok sila ng walk in on the 1st day of opening. naging unfair sa mga may appointment lalo na nung gabi.
With COVID-19, na realize ko iba na ang priority ko. I collected sneakers to use it and not flip it since 1980s. To each his own, kung yung ang magpapasaya sa iyo go and splurge. For the resellers, its the sneaker game nowadays and its their hustle. Just enjoy the game.
medyo wise ang jordan outlet para pag ni resale mapababa ang price, dahil used na sya. at para naman sa pag pilit na ipa suot at ipang laro sa tingin ko hindi tama kasi binili na nila so ang may rights na dun ang customer, sila na ang may rights duon kung ano ang gusto nilang gawin doon, or kung mayroon naman policy sila na kapag na bunot ang name nila sa raffle at un ang isa sa policy eh dapat lang kasi kasunduan un.
kung isa ako sa naka cop, sasamantalahin ko na ang pagkakataon, magvvlog ako while i'm at the jordan basketball court, i'll do an on feet review and performance review, i'll check the cushion and most specially the traction of the outsole. run back and forth, play some hoops na din. kaya nga basketball shoes, use it while playing basketball.
as a collector but not wanting to cop but just collect im tired of seeing a sneaker really over price and a normal person like me cannot afford a gucci price sneaker that was retail 200-400percent lower than that but i do know the stigma of a sneaker like jordans if kung mas mahal mas masarap tignan sa mata i guess
Not a sneaker head but I'm just curious on how they determine raffle winners? I mean are they transparent on how they pick winners? For me pair mo na yun. Bahala kana kung anong gusto mong gawin. Binili mo naman yun di naman libre yon.
I heard from a few of the winners that this wasn't really the case. They were asked to wear it, but not necessarily hoop on it. I agree with what you said though, there's no way you can't completely devalue a pair this limited with this much hype. Personally, even if you're a sneakerhead to your core, I don't think it would be practical for most people to keep something that could earn them more than 350,000 pesos. This pair is only going to go up in value as the years pass by, unless they do a GR of the exact same thing.
My take is,150 pairs,pair #23 on display,pair x with kiefer,x number of pairs for nike athletes and VIP (lets say 60 pairs including kiefer),if my approximation is close the true number of pair raffled and paid is less than a 100...so why make a press release for a raffle for 149 slots...but having folks wear the their pair is big company flex 😎
I think that it was a good decision on the brands part. Since, resellers are just taking all the shoes and other people, like myself cannot get a hold of any kind of pairs even though I would like to have one for myself. Nevertheless, congratulations to all the winners and enjoy your grails!
Smart idea by jordan and nike store na pinasuot nila para nmn ndi abusive mga resellers, pandemic na nga gngwa pang negosyo tapos mabigat pa.. Gnwa ang sapatos pra ienjoy at isuot nmn tlg.
Tama lang yan. Tsaka it’s their brand naman. Even Ford does it on their Ford GT. Yes I know it’s a big difference (kotse and sapatos) pero it’s the same. Buti nga walang demanda sa jordan eh sa ford meron.
Since its their store, we should follow their policy, if we cannot comply, then just don't join the raffle, I know some are really reselling it as times are really hard nowadays, but because of the hype and limited pairs, Jordan store made sure that the shoes went to people who really liked it and will wear it :)
I think tama lang naman po ginawa ng Jordan Brand. Now it's a matter of consistency to ensure that shoes purchased from them won't be dominated by resellers.
while yung iba sa atin is iyak ng iyak about the resell price of it. ung tga ibang bansa na mga kolektor is willing to buy it for what ever the price is. kaya pansin nyo na kahit mamuhunan ang mga reseller satin ng 300k - 350k a pair e still meron parin willing na bumili sa mas mataas na resell value as of today. kasi sa mga solid na kolektor the history sa likod ng j4 manila ung mas nkakapag bgay ng value dyan plus 150 pairs world wide ! only a true sneakerhead will understand the game bakit ganyan at naiintindihan na baka pumalo ang price ng ganyan kataas kahit pa pinasuot yan o d msabi BNDS kasi sinuot na still j4 manila 150 pairs world wide padin yan 👊 thanks for a great vid idol carlo 🙏
Same lang din naalala ko merong release ng J1 sa US if not mistake po and they force to wear it then, wla nmn ngreklamo. Yun nga nagkkagulo kasi dahil sa reselling value no bash opinion lang. :)
Not surprising kasi afaik ginawa nadin dati yan ng Nike/Jordan sa mga ultra hype at limited release nila. And as you said sir, di rin naman bababa gaano presyo nyan kasi nga 150 pairs lang. Kung naka cop ka, panalo ka padin naman kahit used yan hahaha.
I actually think what they did is right. When I first heard about jordan store manila, i was scared about resellers taking the chance to buy in bulk and sell them twice or thrice the price, and it’s ridiculous. Thank God they made rules like this. I get the point of resellers/reselling, but sometimes it is just too much, sobrang nakakalula patong.
Honestly this is a big hit to the reseller community, honestly it really stings yes pero kulang pa yan, dapat magkaron ng crease at least ung shoe bago palabasin ng Jordan Manila ung lucky buyer. This honestly is a strong blow sa reseller community, you can’t always have that grail in a perfect and crisp condition. Sana kayo din maranasang makakuha ng “L”, no hate aryt? I myself has no choice these days than to entertain these resellers since ang kalaban parati sa Pinas is exclusivity and lack of supply. Sana maisip ng market din yung mga taong gustong isuot at gamitin ung actual shoe, hindi yung panay hype na lang parati ang pinaiiral.
Good Job JORDAN MANILA. sana ganito lahat gawin sa lahat ng special release,I'm not against reseller. but for ridiculous amount? wag nmn sana. para atleast magka chance ung ibang pagipunan, if ever.
posibleng ginawa para lumakas ang hype ng shoes.. hindi ko po ito nakita as usapin sa side ng buyer sa kung paano nya ito gustong gamitin, panlaro ba o pamorma, palagay ko po ginawa ito para maka iwas sa scalpers. malakas na hype + walang scalpers = solo nila ang market palagay ko lang po
Carlo is right. All 150 pairs are used after being bought so the price ceiling will not change. This would add more value to the shoe since it's first time in history for this to be done. GOAT actually take and sell used shoes.
Sa palagay ko kahit di naman pinilit yung mga nanalo na suutin yung sapatos... susuotin pari nila yan, yun nga lang, yung tipong sila lang nakaka-alam. Binili mo nga eh kahit intention mo na ibenta yan susukatin mo pari yan. Di naman alam ng bibili yun.
Yeah I agree with the store policy, the limited shoe was really intended for customer to use it to wear it not to resell it may point din yung store kase by the end of the day mas kumita yung reseller kesa sa store sympre lets respect the team jordan and nike ph for making this design for manila
well it depends, if the rule of you winning the raffle and stipulates that Nike PH will have to ask you and wear 'em.. then I guess you have no choice but to comply.. otherwise you will not be part of the raffle.. that simple.
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This happened because of resell culture killing true sneaker love. Even the true fans are deprived of deadstock collecting.
My thoughts exactly
True! It’s a disrepect to the shoe
@@edmundovilladelreyiii2444 lalo na nung mamatay si kobe sa stock x parang 150 isang sapatos meron naging 1000 usd kaya sana rin maging gr rin mga sneakers
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indeed! damn reseller making shit hypes just for business not culture!
i hope this will become a requirement to all hype sneakers to avoid reselling it for a higher price...
No thats how some people make money
@@kobesrange6323 they should just get a real job then 🤣
If that happens then "once worn" will be considered ok and value wont take too much of a hit. Especially on stuff like this
I think it was right it's the store's policy at the end of the day. Respect na lang of course to both Jordan Store and Nike Philippines for doing it.
Its smart by Jordan brand. Para yung resale value will go low. Para walang scalpers na ganap.
Ala resell yan boss meron ata pero pede fake yun kasi parang limited to 250 300 pairs tas puro un ds na kaya di ganun ka taas resell nung aj4 manila
pero panigurado may mga nakalusot dyan and yung mga naiinis about this is yung mga may intent from the start na to resell their pairs
Di ren. Yung bilang kase ng pairs ang nagdidikta ng presyo ng item. Kung titignan nga mas mahal pato sa jordan dior eh kase 150 pairs lang ang narelease. The price will go higher as time flies. Saka nakita ko den sa groups na may mga nakalusot den na di nagsuot ng shoes.
@@jjjjj7305 ds parin or vnds?
wearing the pair won't hurt the resell value since if it's true na pinasuot talaga lahat ng pair sa lahat ng nanalo sa raffle..di the best pair anywhere would be a used pair, still
Big big big RESPECT to Nike and Jordan here in the Ph. So many people (myself included ._. ) can't even get any hype/ limited/ special edition sneakers because maraming nambabalya at namamakyaw for their own benefit. And it's honestly soo tiring. In the end, hindi parin namin napigilan ang mga gahaman (gahamans gonna make gahaman (ano daw?? Lol)) but, this is still progress and a step in the right direction.
Hi sir Carlo. Thanks for mentioning DTI. Im from DTI and i dont think na mag mamatter ang complain if ipinasuot ng Nike ang sapatos.
Hi sir Carlo!
Im one of the few people who claimed a pair 10am. YES they asked us to wear for picture taking ONLY on the court. Then it is up to the owner if he/she wants to wear it or put it in the box again.
So FAKE NEWS yung need mo magbasketball and FAKE NEWS din yung di mo sya pwede hubadin until makalabas ka ng building.
Probably style lang ng mga big resellers to para madegrade yung value para mas mababa nila mabili hahahah
Mahirap talaga yung inggit ang umiiral guys =) #PagInggitPikit
Thanks!
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Maam if you dont mind.. magkano po tlga copped price? Salamat .. just wanna know. Thank you
Up for this comment. Na fake news si kirat 😂
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If it's pre-disclosed before the purchase then.there's no problem. It's actually a brilliant move by AJ Brand to try and address reselling issues.
You really think this effected resell one dollar? If everyone knows this happened, then it's part of the story.
Good! I’m sick of resale prices, I hope this trend continues for all ‘hype’ sneakers.
sir Carlo, wala magrereklamo sa Dti kasi takot din mga flippers na maamoy sila ng BIR.
Mismo! up sa comment na to
Ano ung flippers?
@@joemersiploc8510 resellers whose main intention is to buy and profit from the items. I'd say they're not true patrons/fans of the product and only wish to profit from it.
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exactly haha kasi pag umingay to baka magkabacklash din sila
This should be a requirement for every limited run shoe release. Some of them crumble away and they're never even worn once.
Great move for Jordan Brand PH. I'd be surprised if may makita padin tayong BNDS.
Choice ng buyer yan if they will wear it same goes to other limited items instead gawin nila disqualified na lang sa future releases. Pwede rin marketing nila yan so everyone knows sa sneaker scene na may Jordan branch sa Manila.
Right for me. sa panahon ngayon kasi ang kadalasang nakakakuha na ay yung mga gustong makakuha for reselling at hindi yung gustong makuha for personal use
Kaya nga eh,pero wala eh lahat napapa andar ng pera. If you'll observe it pare parehong tao nalang nakakakuha ng mga snkrs at hype shoes ngayon, kahit sa j4 manila nga puro kilalang reseller at tao ang pinili nila. There's really no raffle at all and it's all possible dahil may cut den mga tao sa nike nyan
This is to boycott those damn resellers!
I love what jordan mnl did! Figuratively screaming "f*ck scalpers and give it to the real sneaker heads"
Sana lahat ng future releases ganyan. Kawaw nmn din kasi yung mga tao na gusto lang nila magkaron ng pair for themselves. ✌️
This is a great move by jordan to somehow "prevent" reselling, though I don't really think that this will "hurt" the reselling game for the J4 Manila's lalo na 150 pairs lang..
Hi Sir Carlo, Im one of the 150 that won the Jordan 4 Manila and I was not asked naman to play basketball but was asked to wear the shoes until I exit the store. For me I hated the Idea of then letting us wear the shoes, honestly its our property na since we PAID for it, we purchased the sneaker, hindi naman sya free na para i dictate nila sa amin to wear it, second is for safety as you mentioned a lot of people were waiting outside to offer to buy the shoes, and I experienced it also, what if we were mugged diba like what happened sa states before that people were getting mugged and sneakers are stolen whenever may release si Jordan, some were even killed...para kami naglalakad ng naka expose yung 350k na pera (since thats the resell price of the shoe) not everyone that won are resellers, like what i said, we won the raffle fair and square and we paid for the Item, so its our property already... did jordan brand let those who purchased the Dior wear the sneakers sa store? Ginawa nilang uto uto yung mga pinaglaro pa nila ng basketball. It was done in bad taste
Im definitely dropping by the store after all the hype has died, atleast now we have more chances on getting better GRs
If I'm not mistaken, there's a store in Japan or somewhere in Asia where they make their customers wear the AJ1 then do push ups with it. Parang ang gusto pa ata eh hindinka aalis hangga't walang crease ang sapatos. Hahaha
Pero applicable lang to sa mga hyped sneakers??
AJ1 SBB yata yun bro? Mas malala yun crease kung crease talaga. Hahahaha
I think that was nice. I understand naman yung resell community pero sana mabalik yung culture na hindi lahat ng releases ng Jordan or any other brand is yung resell kaagad yung iniisip kapag icocop.
Tama lang yan, wala nang re-sell na yan, kaya nauubos stocks dahil sa kanila, sa Titan na lang bumili mga resellers ang alam ko ok sa Titan ang mga resellers.
Dropped by the store last night and they allowed walk-in although there was a 30-min wait. One J4 Manila size 9 "winner" was behind me for the till and he was pulled out of the line and accommodated separately. They didn't require him to wear his as the box came totally wrapped so it won't be identified as such.
Resellers deserves this,, hindi lagi kayo ang magdidictate ng presyo..
tama lang yan,, hindi yung kayo na lang magdidikta sa sneaker game
Yeah thats is right That’s actually normal, same like here in North America when there’s limited release.
We have Jordan Manila store but we do not have SNKRS app in Ph. So we are missing a lot of shock drop for a lot of shoes.
ok lang cguro na sukatin to chek if thats your size talaga parang normal costumer na nagsusukat pag bibili ng kiks but forcing someone or you not just to wear and play basketball parang medyo rude kasi parang sila na ang nagdecide kung saan mo ibebreak in yung new shoes mo kaya lang rules nila so we have to follow..just my opinion ...
Very well said Sir Carlo. Di naman ako against sa rules at yun nga may rights sila to do it. Sana nga mapunta yung mga pairs sa mga taong iki-keep yung pair tapos if-flex sa socmed nila na you have that pair.
- Bitter here kasi di naka-cop ng Dark Mocha for keeps. 😔
Good move from nike and jordan Philippines. That is the real value of the sneakers. Not just for resell ❤️
Kudos to Jordan Manila for doing this para at least naman ma regulate ang resellers, kasi parang people who really want to wear it needs to spend a lot of money to buy it sa resellers. Kasi for me reselling culture really hurts the middle Income shoe enthusiasts tho it creates a sense of exclusivity & leveraging the brand. Hopefully in the future tamang balance lang ng price and branding para naman wider scope of enthusiasts ang ma reach 😉🥰
I would have asked them to make an employee wear the pair (23 of 150) they have in the case. Some people want them as pristine unworn pairs for their collections.
That was not stated in the rules when signing up for the raffle.
Used for a few minutes or not, it is still a fortune for someone who won the raffle and paid for it for retail. You can't even pick up Php 500 on the floor right now.
Hopefully, they can be thankful for what they got instead of ranting about a few thousands they might have lost because they wore the shoes.
Tama lang. Isang sampal sa mga reseller yan 🤣🤣🤣
Totoo naman na papasuotin pero rules kasi un nila. Bago kami pumasok sa loob sinabihan na kami na susuotin for pictorial and documentation purposes (pero pwede ring anti resell). Ung iba sinabi pinatakbo o what. Pero 3 freethrows lang for video and pics lang naman. In the end of the day mabebenta parin ng 300k to 400k ang pair kahit used for pictorial.
Kung nakalagay sa rules na required sila isuot in the store after winning it via raffle then that’s fine.
Pero kung Wala naman written policy about it, and they forced you to wear it. That’s freaking illegal
It might even be like Banksy's Girl with a balloon. Not about how prestine the shoe..it might even sky rocket the price of the shoe because of the experience. I hope they rerelease them numbered how many island in the Philippines. A bit more symbolic to our country and more people can cop.
That is new and very exciting being there for the first time it release and plying hoops for sure there a lot of photos and memories will be posted even in the store itself.
ang maganda po sa jordan 4 manila ay ung sinabi nyo...tama po lahat ng sinabi nyo....salamat ppo lagi sa mga positive na pagtanggap sa ibat ibang sitwasyon....
Sa tingin ko sir, gusto lang talaga ng store na maiwasan yung mga reseller na nagtatake advantage dahil nakacopped sila nung pair. Kaya sa paraan na nasuot na yung pair, ibig sabihin di na macoconsider na brand new ng nga balak na magpurchase sa mga resellers.
One day, i hope, the raffle winner’s name must be written on the shoes to avoid reselling.. 😆
Agree
their shop..their rules.nothing even DTI can do about it imho but as boss Carlo Ople mentioned, i do think that it won't affect the resell value of it since it's limited to 150 and if Nike really did made them all 150 raffle winmers to wear them then at the moment..a used pair is the best pair there is.
If indeed FORCED then they should raise a complaint but i believe there are mechanics before joining the raffle. If stated there that you need to wear the shoe once bought then so be it.
I guess, Jordan did the right thing. Kasi Sneaker Collecting is about buying sneakers and keeping it for yourself diba? I mean at least that’s what I knew about Sneaker Collecting
I agree Carlo. There is only 150 pairs and even if worn they will still be able to sell if they choose to sell it. I like their idea of making customers wear the shoe when purchasing. I feel it should be a policy for most shoe stores. Can’t even get a shoe for retail anymore as people always buying to resell :/
i’m not really a fan of buying from resellers.. just try copping for retail, if i didn’t get a W.. just move on and wait for next release 😉 good day everyone
Korek agree
They should do the same thing in the states, tired of these "shoe vultures" re-selling shoes for ridiculous up-sale, cudos Jordan Brand Manila
Jordan did the right thing in order to prevent (or hopefully reduce) instances of reselling hype sneakers.
Maganda rin sana kung mag-implement ang Jordan ng follow-up sa mga nagpurchase after a month to check if in possession pa din sila nung pairs na yun. If wala na sa kanila, then implement Rule 13: if caught reselling, banned from future purchases. Pero sure ako na mahirap iimplement 'to. Hassle sa part ng Jordan. They should be willing to go an extra mile to enforce their rules.
I agree on the "Claim and Wear" pakulo of Jordan Store. I mean yeah, shoes are made to wear, NOT TO RESELL. This "pakulo" can help reduce the numbers of flippers and resellers/scalpers or whatever call for them. ✌🏻
What Jordan Manila did was not only downright abusive, but forcing buyers to play indoor basketball in the midst of a COVID pandemic puts lives at risk.
I think okay lang naman. Kung ikaw seller, walang pagbabago sa price nyan dahil lahat ng 150 pairs eh gamit na. So nagequalize lang din. Same with the buyer. You will not be able to find unused pair.
Good job NIKE/JORDAN BRAND.....Thanx for the info sir Carlo....hope NIKE/JORDAN will find a way to stop RED TAPE in there stores...kawawa kaming mga taga probinsiya, feeling yata ng NIKE/JORDAN taga Metro Manila lang nakaka afford ng new releases nila.
Hi Tukayo,, i think what nike did was for the good of the true buyers.. ayaw lang nila na ung makakabili ay pagkakitaan pa ng malaki ung shoes sa reselling. If I am not mistaken ginawa na rin nila yan sa store in the U.S..
Nice shoes, nice topic very nice price specially for a colletor and very informative advise to us all. Happy holidays guys. Thanks more power.
If they were true? How come, some pairs were posted now on stockx? Knowing that they only accept brandnew.
Kung sutil yung bibili ng resell, since numbered yung pair and if may database ang Jordan PH sa kung sino nakakuha ng specific number, pd ireport sa Jordan PH just to get even since may sanction pag na patunayan na binenta nga, just saying.
The store's policy only take effects within the store. Selling it is a different story. Since it was already purchased. Then it is legally owned by the buyer unless there is a signed agreement about selling it. I am not really into buying and selling my own pairs as I treat my shoes as my treasure.
Literally every limited release should be like this, deadass.
450K?! You must be crazy if you buy it at that price.
Korek
Well I didn't get the opportunity to cop one, but if the rules that you need to wear it in store is in the terms and condition for the raffle then no issue with that or terms and conditions may vary as per management, those buyers may had missed reading it, but if those terms are not stated on it or its and impromptu decision of the management then there could be a legal issue with it. But what the hell you get in line to buy the shoes and shoes are meant to be wore.
I think they shouldn't have done that since it's the buyers' or customers' right to do whatever they want to do on the things that they buy. Because at the end of the day, they bought it and it's their inventory already, and Nike or Jordan Philippines doesn't have the right to force them to wear it if they don't want to.
Sad that the Sneaker game has turned to 90% Resellers and 10% true Sneakerheads. I would love a pair of these for the collection.
You're right sir Carlo. Besides, we should be happy because this might mean future collabs between Nike or other big brands and other local brands here in PH
ok lang yan. on the other hand ang mali ay yung system nila ng appointment. nagpapasok sila ng walk in on the 1st day of opening. naging unfair sa mga may appointment lalo na nung gabi.
With COVID-19, na realize ko iba na ang priority ko. I collected sneakers to use it and not flip it since 1980s. To each his own, kung yung ang magpapasaya sa iyo go and splurge. For the resellers, its the sneaker game nowadays and its their hustle. Just enjoy the game.
I dont like resell either but if I bought it, it means it’s mine, meaning i can do whatever i want with it. It’s not any store or brands decision.
medyo wise ang jordan outlet para pag ni resale mapababa ang price, dahil used na sya. at para naman sa pag pilit na ipa suot at ipang laro sa tingin ko hindi tama kasi binili na nila so ang may rights na dun ang customer, sila na ang may rights duon kung ano ang gusto nilang gawin doon, or kung mayroon naman policy sila na kapag na bunot ang name nila sa raffle at un ang isa sa policy eh dapat lang kasi kasunduan un.
kung isa ako sa naka cop, sasamantalahin ko na ang pagkakataon, magvvlog ako while i'm at the jordan basketball court, i'll do an on feet review and performance review, i'll check the cushion and most specially the traction of the outsole. run back and forth, play some hoops na din. kaya nga basketball shoes, use it while playing basketball.
Yes! Nike did a great job on this.. Real OG or Sneaker lovers deserves this kind of shoes @ retail price ..
as a collector but not wanting to cop but just collect im tired of seeing a sneaker really over price and a normal person like me cannot afford a gucci price sneaker that was retail 200-400percent lower than that but i do know the stigma of a sneaker like jordans if kung mas mahal mas masarap tignan sa mata i guess
Not a sneaker head but I'm just curious on how they determine raffle winners? I mean are they transparent on how they pick winners? For me pair mo na yun. Bahala kana kung anong gusto mong gawin. Binili mo naman yun di naman libre yon.
matagal na ginagawa dito sa uae yan, pinapasuot na ang shoes bago ka lumabas ng store..
at dapat size mo tlaga ang bibilhin mo..
pamatay resell..hehe
I heard from a few of the winners that this wasn't really the case. They were asked to wear it, but not necessarily hoop on it. I agree with what you said though, there's no way you can't completely devalue a pair this limited with this much hype.
Personally, even if you're a sneakerhead to your core, I don't think it would be practical for most people to keep something that could earn them more than 350,000 pesos. This pair is only going to go up in value as the years pass by, unless they do a GR of the exact same thing.
My take is,150 pairs,pair #23 on display,pair x with kiefer,x number of pairs for nike athletes and VIP (lets say 60 pairs including kiefer),if my approximation is close the true number of pair raffled and paid is less than a 100...so why make a press release for a raffle for 149 slots...but having folks wear the their pair is big company flex 😎
Agree to this 100% Hope this will not be the last policy. I think the culture needs to be reshaped
I think that it was a good decision on the brands part. Since, resellers are just taking all the shoes and other people, like myself cannot get a hold of any kind of pairs even though I would like to have one for myself. Nevertheless, congratulations to all the winners and enjoy your grails!
Sir Carlo would you buy one for the said resell price of 300-350k?if yes, based on what?
Smart idea by jordan and nike store na pinasuot nila para nmn ndi abusive mga resellers, pandemic na nga gngwa pang negosyo tapos mabigat pa.. Gnwa ang sapatos pra ienjoy at isuot nmn tlg.
Tama lang yan. Tsaka it’s their brand naman. Even Ford does it on their Ford GT. Yes I know it’s a big difference (kotse and sapatos) pero it’s the same. Buti nga walang demanda sa jordan eh sa ford meron.
Since its their store, we should follow their policy, if we cannot comply, then just don't join the raffle, I know some are really reselling it as times are really hard nowadays, but because of the hype and limited pairs, Jordan store made sure that the shoes went to people who really liked it and will wear it :)
I think tama lang naman po ginawa ng Jordan Brand. Now it's a matter of consistency to ensure that shoes purchased from them won't be dominated by resellers.
while yung iba sa atin is iyak ng iyak about the resell price of it. ung tga ibang bansa na mga kolektor is willing to buy it for what ever the price is. kaya pansin nyo na kahit mamuhunan ang mga reseller satin ng 300k - 350k a pair e still meron parin willing na bumili sa mas mataas na resell value as of today. kasi sa mga solid na kolektor the history sa likod ng j4 manila ung mas nkakapag bgay ng value dyan plus 150 pairs world wide ! only a true sneakerhead will understand the game bakit ganyan at naiintindihan na baka pumalo ang price ng ganyan kataas kahit pa pinasuot yan o d msabi BNDS kasi sinuot na still j4 manila 150 pairs world wide padin yan 👊 thanks for a great vid idol carlo 🙏
Wish Jordan brand would do this in the UK! Looks like Manila had the right idea!
There’s a big difference between played “basketball” and “shooting free throws” 😂
Yeah. Di naman mapupudpod yung sapatos ng suot lang at pinag shoot ng bola lol.
True
Tama bro!
Same lang din naalala ko merong release ng J1 sa US if not mistake po and they force to wear it then, wla nmn ngreklamo. Yun nga nagkkagulo kasi dahil sa reselling value no bash opinion lang. :)
tama yan lahat ng bumili ipapasuot at ipapalaro kasi ung mga reseller sobrang daming paraan para maagawan ung mga legit may gusto.
I think its wrong kasi once you buy an item,phone or whatever i means that its yours na....so wla na silang pakialam kng ayaw mo suotin o hindi
Not surprising kasi afaik ginawa nadin dati yan ng Nike/Jordan sa mga ultra hype at limited release nila. And as you said sir, di rin naman bababa gaano presyo nyan kasi nga 150 pairs lang. Kung naka cop ka, panalo ka padin naman kahit used yan hahaha.
I actually think what they did is right. When I first heard about jordan store manila, i was scared about resellers taking the chance to buy in bulk and sell them twice or thrice the price, and it’s ridiculous. Thank God they made rules like this. I get the point of resellers/reselling, but sometimes it is just too much, sobrang nakakalula patong.
Narelease na po yan sa Cartimar 150k limited pieces nga lang po ang available.
Nauna pa cartimar magrelease HAHAHAHS
Honestly this is a big hit to the reseller community, honestly it really stings yes pero kulang pa yan, dapat magkaron ng crease at least ung shoe bago palabasin ng Jordan Manila ung lucky buyer. This honestly is a strong blow sa reseller community, you can’t always have that grail in a perfect and crisp condition. Sana kayo din maranasang makakuha ng “L”, no hate aryt? I myself has no choice these days than to entertain these resellers since ang kalaban parati sa Pinas is exclusivity and lack of supply. Sana maisip ng market din yung mga taong gustong isuot at gamitin ung actual shoe, hindi yung panay hype na lang parati ang pinaiiral.
Good Job JORDAN MANILA. sana ganito lahat gawin sa lahat ng special release,I'm not against reseller. but for ridiculous amount? wag nmn sana. para atleast magka chance ung ibang pagipunan, if ever.
posibleng ginawa para lumakas ang hype ng shoes..
hindi ko po ito nakita as usapin sa side ng buyer sa kung paano nya ito gustong gamitin, panlaro ba o pamorma, palagay ko po ginawa ito para maka iwas sa scalpers.
malakas na hype + walang scalpers = solo nila ang market
palagay ko lang po
Carlo is right. All 150 pairs are used after being bought so the price ceiling will not change. This would add more value to the shoe since it's first time in history for this to be done. GOAT actually take and sell used shoes.
i think this is right why? buy a shoes but you can't wear it?damn..
Sa palagay ko kahit di naman pinilit yung mga nanalo na suutin yung sapatos... susuotin pari nila yan, yun nga lang, yung tipong sila lang nakaka-alam. Binili mo nga eh kahit intention mo na ibenta yan susukatin mo pari yan. Di naman alam ng bibili yun.
Yeah I agree with the store policy, the limited shoe was really intended for customer to use it to wear it not to resell it may point din yung store kase by the end of the day mas kumita yung reseller kesa sa store sympre lets respect the team jordan and nike ph for making this design for manila
I see it as an anti reseller measure...if a hype jordan creases, you can't demand a hyped price since it is not deadstock anymore...
But if 100% of the pairs are worn its the same as ds 😂😂😂
Kng Pinasuot sayo bago mo babayaran,eh Wala kanang magagawa don...
Pero kung Pinilit na Pinasuot sayo pagkatapos mong Bayaran...Ibang usapan na yon.
well it depends, if the rule of you winning the raffle and stipulates that Nike PH will have to ask you and wear 'em.. then I guess you have no choice but to comply.. otherwise you will not be part of the raffle.. that simple.