Just my take on the situation: the black car moved to the right, which gave me the false split second impression of him making space for me to overtake. In reality, he most likely positioned himself for the left hand corner and turned in. My fault is to assume things and being eager to pass in a dangerous section. His fault is to not look in the mirrors. Touristenfahrten (public road) rules say the traffic needs to stay right to allow faster traffic to overtake on the left. So legally speaking he was at fault. In my opinion it is 50-50.
The main thing is that all participants came out of it healthy and without any damage to their cars. My opinion is that it was his fault because he didn’t check his mirrors at all. You handled it brilliantly.
As someone who in the majority of cases is against regulation, because in 99% of the cases it's damaging overregulation, I'm very much in favor of requiring Ring drivers to have absolved a short training course consisting of track knowledge and basic track driving skills such as "eyes on the road, and anytime you can afford looking away briefly, eyes on the rear mirror".
Isn't eye scanning (mirror scanning) a basic automotive operation skill, even on normal roads. Your eyes should always be moving between the various mirrors and the road. Not just when you are changing lanes. It's about situational awareness. It's not about moving your head or not paying attention to what is in front of you it's a systematic scanning of your environment. Something that has saved my butt on normal US Highways more than once when a speed-racer overtakes at +40-60mph over the speed of traffic so they come out of nowhere relative and if you are not keeping up that constant awareness you won't be able to react to them. I am no angel having done +100mph over speed of traffic. But I understood the nature of the relative differences in speed and other drivers that are on the road 1mile out, as that was my gap-close so I was keeping track of what everyone was doing in front that far out to prevent sudden surprises on overtake. I won't do something that stupid again. But I can't stand in an ivory tower because I did do something that stupid. I think on the 'ring folks get tunnel vision. It's kind of thing that inexperienced drivers in high speed road course traffic experience. They are so focused on their own positioning and how to attack the next corner their awareness narrows dangerously down.
@@stoneeh You should be paying attention equally on a normal road. It could save your life there. The difference in the ring is that you have a low experience driver trying to drive to the limits of his car. Which is where problems start. I am sorry. I've done historic racing and many other road courses in my life. I don't accept the blaze driving of Americans and certainly expect better of Germans. As for the speed differential it's kind of my pet peeve about the Ring. Speed differentials are trouble. Slow cars should not be on the track with really fast cars and low experience drivers should not be on the track with high experience drivers. They need to be grouped by class as in speed and experience to reduce the speed differential problem. It is extremely dangerous, period, to have a 100+km/h differential between cars sharing a road or track. This is regardless of driver skill and experience. I feel it's a miracle that there are not really bad multi-car wrecks there more often. When you've got a GT3 doing 240km/h coming into a turn with a 3 or 4 car traffic packet doing maybe 100km/h tops, there may simply be no time to react, even with a professional driver's reflexes. This applies to both the faster car and the slower cars, neither may be able to even have the reflexes to react.
You've appeared in his rearview mirror in Hoheichen, all the way through Schwedenkreuz, and he never noticed you. I'd say he was more focused on racing/catching up with the cars in front of him, because he was being left behind and forgot to check his mirrors for like 2 kms. Lesson is, never assume they've seen you until they blink and move all the way to the right.
@@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 Nobody reads books anymore. The standard of general spelling in all languages has deteriorated drastically. The one that bugs me most is the "could of" "should of". People spell phonetically now because video media has completely taken over. Standards of education have also dwindled so it's a systemic problem. Not really the fault of anyone but those who benefit most from those standards failing. There are people getting paid to make it function so it's not an entirely organic process of societal evolution.
Nice car, quite good adhesion from the tyres as well. Misha kept his cool during the incident but at the same time went for the gap which he usually doesn't go for. Of course it's easy to comment in hindsight but glad that an accident was avoided. Props to the owner as well for being very cool and calm at the time😅
People are too fast to judge the Opel driver for not using his mirrors. It was clearly a very busy day, look at all the traffic in front of the Opel. The lesson to take here is not to assume too easily and too eagerly the driver in front has seen you unless the use their indicators. With all the traffic in front, it was unnecessary to make a dive in Schwedenkreuz. The overtaking car has the responsibility to make a safe pass, ESPECIALLY during a Touristenfahrten day.
tbh he had 0 reason to cut across like that imo Yes the passing car has to make a safe pass but that doesn't matter if the other guy drives like it's Qualifying
@@tehmikesclipshe went to the right after passing the car in front to position himself for the corner. He wasn't cutting across, that's the normal line. He just didn't see misha. Always a risk when coming into traffic with the speed misha was doing and with all his experience he should have waited till after the corner to pass.
@@tehmikesclips He was not weaving, he was more than likely mainly paying attention to the traffic in front and did not expect someone arriving at 270kph...
He moved over as he could see the two slow cars on the right and a convoy going round them 04:11 Had Misha been actually focusing on driving and not chatting and laughing at 03:52 he would have seen the upcoming traffic rather than looking at his passenger and flooring it. Keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel........Over confidence is a killer
Carry big pace on TF and you will get issues like this. To expect novices to do everything right is not what good drivers do. Up to the fast drivers to drive for the slow ones, always has been and always will be.. The gap looked like it was going to close, it did and that happened. Of course the other guy should have been more aware, but it could well have been his first ever lap with zero experience. Easy talking as many commentators do on here (but most have never track, ringed or raced so are utterly clueless) about what he should have done, but you know well Misha that many or most drivers in TF are not high standard, highly experienced track guys and girls. we do track days for a reason and even then you can still get bad track errors but the risk is smaller. TF = High Risk TF.= Novice Hell . Only as you asked :)
100% the best comment on here with common sense. Never assume anything (except that others see stupid), always expect the worst, drive defensively, that’s what makes a great driver. Anyone can go fast, not everyone can go fast safely.
People in stressful situations are not always going to behave rationally or expectedly. It’s just part of being on the track with a mix of experience but even pros mess up.
Watching him drive before the incident and after, there were too many times he could have pulled over and just didn't. I think the black car was a poor driver.
I drove my first laps this year and being a newbie I made sure i kept an eye on the faster traffic and moved off the line when needed this way every driver skill level can enjoy there laps I had a great time !
IMO that's on you Misha. Every pass that isn't going round someone who's indicating right for you to overtake is a risk, and that's a common overtake on this channel. Don't gamble and trust the other person to see you and move, play it safe and wait for them to see you and tell you they've seen you.
Because the Nordschleife during Touristenfahrten is qualified as a two lane one way toll road without road markings the Opel technically changed lanes without indicating and would get at least partial blame. Mostly to the fact that Misha went far over the "Richtgeschwindigkeit" (130 kmh) on a non limited road would also give him some fault to a ficitonal accident.
@LavshBeatsTMlavishbeats it's different in that situation, yes the slow car fucked up, but misha was flying down, in the space of a second you see a car 100m away and the next he's right besides you and clearly the corsa isn't very experienced. Got to remember it's only a public session.
I would only overtake if he uses his indicator in this situation, too often had i simular situations on track days, seen it all, even people having their indicator on and still turning in. As a overtaking car you have a bit more responsibility than him, 60-40 on you, but he should use his mirrors.
Misha. The black car a Corsa. It is in the top 5 crashed cars in the Uk. I have seen quite a few of them rolled over and left at the road side along with the BMW 1 series and old X5 Bmws. Plenty of these cars rolled in the Uk.
I like you Misha and know that you are "good" guy. If you're asking, there's a little "BUT." From a racing perspective, if they hit you, it's a 50/50 situation. The first 50% is on black car because you had nowhere to evade, and the other 50% is on you because your front axle wasn’t aligned with their seat, meaning they were the leading car and dictated the racing line. From the perspective of free driving, it’s highly debatable. Of course, the rule is to stay on the right and check the mirrors, but every petrolhead on the track knows that the ideal and safe racing line (especially in fast corners) doesn’t always follow the right edge of the track. Considering the fact that you’re a professional, more of the responsibility lies on your side for interpreting their slight move to the right as an evasive maneuver. Personally, I would have waited for an indicator or simply wouldn’t have forced my way through at that speed and in that location. Mitigating circumstance: you handled the "crisis situation" brilliantly, so no big deal... I’ll just add that sometimes slower is better than faster, especially when it’s not about a trophy.
Even reading your explanation its still 100% his fault imo.. like you say, its traffic rules saying its his fault. Next to that, who doesnt even dare to check their own mirrors… especially driving under these circumstances, you need FULL situational awareness, also what happens behind you for exactly this reason.
IMHO the Opel was after an overtake and moving to the right to prepare for Schwedenkreuz. You were just covered by the bump when he started to brake to enter the corner. He might have lost sight of you for a brief moment, and next thing he knew, you were next to him. He indicated no intentions to let you pass, so it's unfounded to assume. I don't think anyone would take the right side of Schwedenkreuz on a 'fast' lap. For most TF drivers this corner is of pucker-factor grade so next to no one will check mirrors here. Most TF drivers have less experience so if seasoned TFers push them, some will go beyond their limits. This is something to expect and a responsiblity of those more experienced.
Its like watching some cars race, and some going for a nice Sunday drive add it with unpredictable bikers and the rest it's a suprise they not more accidents, imo bike days, car days and for experienced enough drivers
Look Mr Verstappen! ha only joking Misha, that Vauxhall Corsa? Had no clue about his surroundings, we all make mistakes and well you handled it like a champ.
I've noticed Misha is often a touch slow out the gate compared to other cars - maybe still feeling out the car a bit before pushing it, generally the section around 6:08 up the hill gives a good indication of how legit the power really is.
It has the scoops and discs in the rear wheels so it's probably a manthey gt4rs. And 220 in the first compression it's proper fast, I don't doubt the claim.
The Corsa just wasn't using their mirrors. It isn't hard to see a bright green object that literally had the nose next to the driver's door. They had a lot of space in front of them so people defending the Corsa for that seem wrong in my opinion. It was busy around that area but not at the corner of the near miss. And the fact they don't pull to the side on the next downhill further shows they were not checking behind. To be fair, they did not use their signals to let Misha through but that also makes me think they did not intend for Misha to overtake later on either. They may have just been trying to take a racing line there.
He was focused on taking the 100mph+ corner not his mirrors. I'm not saying the corsa is innocent but it's a public road open to amateurs, it's to be expected.
I feel like you though he saw you, but he had to take that line for the corner . So basicly , you came in hot, he didnt see you , you reaction was extremely calm and good, so he should be more aware on track for other cars, and you, i guess you could prevent such close calls by not pushing as much. But as i said, you handled it so good, its like nothing happend .
Same as the road, never assume - it makes an ass(outof)u+me! You drive the ring so much that sometimes you get overconfident with passing people who don’t have a clue what they are doing, just expect the worst Misha never forget.
50 50. Perhaps Mischa was too confident going in and taking it for granted the Corsa driver had seen him, and the Corsa driver for poor situational awareness and not looking in the mirrors. Good reaction by Mischa saved it.
I'd put the majority of the blame on the Corsa driver, you backed out of it and saved you both the hit. Seemed for all the world he left the door open just to shut it on you. Damn rapid for a stock M4.
At that corner, given the bankment of the road almost 90% of drivers are gonna go left to hit that apex naturally. He would'nt have seen you as you were already in his blind spot after the crest. So you being a ring expert and this being TF, I would expect you to slow down rather than trying to pass him at that spot.
Misha presuming someone had seen him nearly killed someone here. This would have been a train wreck and to live with that would be awful just because you couldn’t be patient for one second. If you’re not 100% sure you stay behind. If this was the first instance like this I wouldn’t say this but it regularly happens where he dives up the inside when the other car has clearly not given way. He’s literally bullying his way through. And when Misha is the lead car in this situation he most definitely doesn’t give way instantly! There’s been times he’s held faster cars up for 5-6 corners so the move over if you’re slower clearly applies different meanings when he’s driving.. I love the channel, I love his content, passion and drive but he and others like him need to be far more cautious in the future.
Maybe the driver of the black car was committed to that line to make the turn. Coming off throttle and braking to let you by may have unsettled the car and caused loss of control. I think you in the more capable car should have waited until after the turn to line him up.
Corsa driver hitting 150kmh on the fastest part of the track trippin he is alone doing personal lap time record. Weaving left and right, and people yapping this was a risky overtake... Comment section full of F1 drivers apparently
I’d say he should be looking. It’s just like the autobahn expect there’s certain sections where you really aren’t supposed to pass unless you’re super quick. But in this case this if your driving style is always changing as it should, you need to keep an eye out for driving lanes n nuances around to avoid stuff like this. It’s just the hill they drove up on and driver going kinda wide a tiny bit. If you come wide then short look 👀
He didn't signal and probably wasn't looking at his mirrors. Considering how fast you came up on him and how fast he was going more than likely wasn't expecting anything. He moved off when he had the chance. 50-50
Ugh the s55 sounds so horrible. Everything i think about selling the OG m2 and "upgrading" to a newer car, i hear the horrible noise they make and I'm reconvinced to keep the n55.
I heard parts of the writing were meant for trainees as refference points for braking/turning in? Now Im starting to assume its both lol, little vandals putting writing. And the racers/trainees be like : “here at Hanz his name you start to brake, and at Fritz his name you start to turn in ja?”
For me it's 50-50, the slowest have to pay attention to the fastest but the opposite as well, not everyone has 100000 euro for a car but has paid 30 euro also to have fun.
3:58 am sure the driver doesn't check his mirrors 😒.. That's why checking your surrounding and keep looking at the mirrors keep you from cutting anyone pass you.. am not saying that keep looking at the mirrors all the time especially in a track. but at least keep checking every few seconds. I wish yo Misha say it in a better way in that video.
Just my take on the situation: the black car moved to the right, which gave me the false split second impression of him making space for me to overtake. In reality, he most likely positioned himself for the left hand corner and turned in. My fault is to assume things and being eager to pass in a dangerous section. His fault is to not look in the mirrors. Touristenfahrten (public road) rules say the traffic needs to stay right to allow faster traffic to overtake on the left. So legally speaking he was at fault. In my opinion it is 50-50.
Just an inchident.
The main thing is that all participants came out of it healthy and without any damage to their cars. My opinion is that it was his fault because he didn’t check his mirrors at all. You handled it brilliantly.
Totally his fault, at TF he should watch his mirrors, see you and let you trough.
A culpa não pode ser dividida, eu diria que o condutor do Opel teve 70% por não ter acautelado que poderia vir alguém mais rápido atrás.
Jeah the driver whas just not aware that you where overtaking.
So he dindt noticed.
You reacted quick enough 🎉 nice job
As someone who in the majority of cases is against regulation, because in 99% of the cases it's damaging overregulation, I'm very much in favor of requiring Ring drivers to have absolved a short training course consisting of track knowledge and basic track driving skills such as "eyes on the road, and anytime you can afford looking away briefly, eyes on the rear mirror".
"absolved"
Isn't eye scanning (mirror scanning) a basic automotive operation skill, even on normal roads. Your eyes should always be moving between the various mirrors and the road. Not just when you are changing lanes. It's about situational awareness. It's not about moving your head or not paying attention to what is in front of you it's a systematic scanning of your environment. Something that has saved my butt on normal US Highways more than once when a speed-racer overtakes at +40-60mph over the speed of traffic so they come out of nowhere relative and if you are not keeping up that constant awareness you won't be able to react to them. I am no angel having done +100mph over speed of traffic. But I understood the nature of the relative differences in speed and other drivers that are on the road 1mile out, as that was my gap-close so I was keeping track of what everyone was doing in front that far out to prevent sudden surprises on overtake. I won't do something that stupid again. But I can't stand in an ivory tower because I did do something that stupid. I think on the 'ring folks get tunnel vision. It's kind of thing that inexperienced drivers in high speed road course traffic experience. They are so focused on their own positioning and how to attack the next corner their awareness narrows dangerously down.
@@stoneeh You should be paying attention equally on a normal road. It could save your life there. The difference in the ring is that you have a low experience driver trying to drive to the limits of his car. Which is where problems start. I am sorry. I've done historic racing and many other road courses in my life. I don't accept the blaze driving of Americans and certainly expect better of Germans.
As for the speed differential it's kind of my pet peeve about the Ring. Speed differentials are trouble. Slow cars should not be on the track with really fast cars and low experience drivers should not be on the track with high experience drivers. They need to be grouped by class as in speed and experience to reduce the speed differential problem. It is extremely dangerous, period, to have a 100+km/h differential between cars sharing a road or track. This is regardless of driver skill and experience.
I feel it's a miracle that there are not really bad multi-car wrecks there more often. When you've got a GT3 doing 240km/h coming into a turn with a 3 or 4 car traffic packet doing maybe 100km/h tops, there may simply be no time to react, even with a professional driver's reflexes. This applies to both the faster car and the slower cars, neither may be able to even have the reflexes to react.
@@stoneeh emh, it's a public road m8 what are you on about?
This! Period.
Not seeing any blinkers, so I wouldn't have taken the risk right before a turn.
Agreed. They paid to do a lap, and unless they signal to the right, it's smart to assume they will take the racing line.
Shutttt uppp, obviously never been on the nurburgring
@@wetateforlife ratio
''mii mimimimi, mimimi mimi mi mi, imimi imimim - bla bla fucking bla''
You've appeared in his rearview mirror in Hoheichen, all the way through Schwedenkreuz, and he never noticed you. I'd say he was more focused on racing/catching up with the cars in front of him, because he was being left behind and forgot to check his mirrors for like 2 kms. Lesson is, never assume they've seen you until they blink and move all the way to the right.
Wow that was close, luckily you had good brakes together with the reaction time
Man is it so hard to spell *brakes* correctly? Is it really that tough?
@@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 go to your mom and cry about it, sjees
@@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81in all honesty for any non native speaker spelling makes no sense in english.
Brakes!
@@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 Nobody reads books anymore. The standard of general spelling in all languages has deteriorated drastically. The one that bugs me most is the "could of" "should of". People spell phonetically now because video media has completely taken over. Standards of education have also dwindled so it's a systemic problem. Not really the fault of anyone but those who benefit most from those standards failing. There are people getting paid to make it function so it's not an entirely organic process of societal evolution.
Nice car, quite good adhesion from the tyres as well. Misha kept his cool during the incident but at the same time went for the gap which he usually doesn't go for. Of course it's easy to comment in hindsight but glad that an accident was avoided. Props to the owner as well for being very cool and calm at the time😅
6:12 Imagine owning an m5 and not beeing able to make your plate Match the car because some other car guy decided to slap it onto a Lotus 😂
3:52 Timestamp
damn. it took the black car 40 seconds to notice a car behind them wanted to pass. :\ doesn't belong on the ring tbh.
@@RJB_TV can a car be banned on the ring? this driver definitely should
People are too fast to judge the Opel driver for not using his mirrors. It was clearly a very busy day, look at all the traffic in front of the Opel. The lesson to take here is not to assume too easily and too eagerly the driver in front has seen you unless the use their indicators. With all the traffic in front, it was unnecessary to make a dive in Schwedenkreuz. The overtaking car has the responsibility to make a safe pass, ESPECIALLY during a Touristenfahrten day.
tbh he had 0 reason to cut across like that imo
Yes the passing car has to make a safe pass but that doesn't matter if the other guy drives like it's Qualifying
agreed
Lesson is not to weave left and right doing 150kmh on the fastest part of the track like you are alone
@@tehmikesclipshe went to the right after passing the car in front to position himself for the corner. He wasn't cutting across, that's the normal line. He just didn't see misha. Always a risk when coming into traffic with the speed misha was doing and with all his experience he should have waited till after the corner to pass.
@@tehmikesclips He was not weaving, he was more than likely mainly paying attention to the traffic in front and did not expect someone arriving at 270kph...
He moved over as he could see the two slow cars on the right and a convoy going round them 04:11
Had Misha been actually focusing on driving and not chatting and laughing at 03:52 he would have seen the upcoming traffic rather than looking at his passenger and flooring it. Keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel........Over confidence is a killer
Carry big pace on TF and you will get issues like this. To expect novices to do everything right is not what good drivers do. Up to the fast drivers to drive for the slow ones, always has been and always will be.. The gap looked like it was going to close, it did and that happened. Of course the other guy should have been more aware, but it could well have been his first ever lap with zero experience. Easy talking as many commentators do on here (but most have never track, ringed or raced so are utterly clueless) about what he should have done, but you know well Misha that many or most drivers in TF are not high standard, highly experienced track guys and girls. we do track days for a reason and even then you can still get bad track errors but the risk is smaller. TF = High Risk TF.= Novice Hell . Only as you asked :)
100% the best comment on here with common sense. Never assume anything (except that others see stupid), always expect the worst, drive defensively, that’s what makes a great driver. Anyone can go fast, not everyone can go fast safely.
People in stressful situations are not always going to behave rationally or expectedly. It’s just part of being on the track with a mix of experience but even pros mess up.
Watching him drive before the incident and after, there were too many times he could have pulled over and just didn't. I think the black car was a poor driver.
Driver definitely wasn't using their mirrors much.
I drove my first laps this year and being a newbie I made sure i kept an eye on the faster traffic and moved off the line when needed this way every driver skill level can enjoy there laps I had a great time !
I love your reaction, very confident and kalm
Never assume someone else has seen you
IMO that's on you Misha. Every pass that isn't going round someone who's indicating right for you to overtake is a risk, and that's a common overtake on this channel. Don't gamble and trust the other person to see you and move, play it safe and wait for them to see you and tell you they've seen you.
I've always wondered about the writing on the track too. It looks like something kids would do on a playground.
That's because the tracks actually is a playground...
Thought you was the grass been green 😂 but very close good reaction 🤙
Faster car is responsible for making a safe overtake.
And slower car is responsible for driving straight into them 🤔 yea that makes sense…
Because the Nordschleife during Touristenfahrten is qualified as a two lane one way toll road without road markings the Opel technically changed lanes without indicating and would get at least partial blame. Mostly to the fact that Misha went far over the "Richtgeschwindigkeit" (130 kmh) on a non limited road would also give him some fault to a ficitonal accident.
That’s in a racing situation, this is a public toll road where you always stay to the right to allow a faster car through
@LavshBeatsTMlavishbeats it's different in that situation, yes the slow car fucked up, but misha was flying down, in the space of a second you see a car 100m away and the next he's right besides you and clearly the corsa isn't very experienced. Got to remember it's only a public session.
Very cool lap misha great car, the moment with the opel was scary as hell
2:24 sounded like one of mine after being on protein shakes! Especially likely when heavy breaking approaching a corner fast with still slippy tyres 😆
I would only overtake if he uses his indicator in this situation, too often had i simular situations on track days, seen it all, even people having their indicator on and still turning in. As a overtaking car you have a bit more responsibility than him, 60-40 on you, but he should use his mirrors.
Buddy didn't give you a turn signal or point by. I think point by should be required for these touring laps, it would resolve the issue.
When you have 200hp and you think you are the fastest so don’t use your mirrors
BMW & Porsche always look the best and most fun round the ring
Misha. The black car a Corsa. It is in the top 5 crashed cars in the Uk. I have seen quite a few of them rolled over and left at the road side along with the BMW 1 series and old X5 Bmws. Plenty of these cars rolled in the Uk.
Because there driven by new drivers who think they can drive like Misha on country roads
Totally agree!
well its the most common car in the UK so thats why
Common. Cheap. Driven badly by some of the folk who drive them. A lot of insurance claims made.
4:27 what is the guy trying to do with his little car against a bmw m series with misha one of the best pilot 😂💀
There is no way to get an ok Condition M4 for under 40k in Switzerland. I know because otherwise I’d have one
I like you Misha and know that you are "good" guy.
If you're asking, there's a little "BUT." From a racing perspective, if they hit you, it's a 50/50 situation. The first 50% is on black car because you had nowhere to evade, and the other 50% is on you because your front axle wasn’t aligned with their seat, meaning they were the leading car and dictated the racing line. From the perspective of free driving, it’s highly debatable. Of course, the rule is to stay on the right and check the mirrors, but every petrolhead on the track knows that the ideal and safe racing line (especially in fast corners) doesn’t always follow the right edge of the track.
Considering the fact that you’re a professional, more of the responsibility lies on your side for interpreting their slight move to the right as an evasive maneuver. Personally, I would have waited for an indicator or simply wouldn’t have forced my way through at that speed and in that location. Mitigating circumstance: you handled the "crisis situation" brilliantly, so no big deal... I’ll just add that sometimes slower is better than faster, especially when it’s not about a trophy.
Ain't this the security guard who was protecting the ULEZ cameras in London lol
man that gt4 RS is quick! Right at the start of the track it was pulling on the tuned M4 in a straightline, crazy
That’s power to weight ratio right there. Plus Misha did lose traction which slowed him down a little as well lol.
Would be awesome if you drive that Black Corsa, i'm curious because was fast and how much HP.
27k for an M4 is insane.. Wish we had UK car prices 😂😂
27k is for a high mileage high owner ragged car.
@@dreamcrusher112 Not true, for £27k you'll get one with under 30k miles. Even for only £23k you can get one with under 50k miles.
Plus not sure where you are from but the exchange value!? It's a thing. 😮
@@dreamcrusher112 mines was 25k in auction
@@dreamcrusher112 dude, you're talking out of your ass. For 27k you can get decent low mileage M3/4 F8x. What you yapping about?
Someone did the same to me half an hour ago on the road, good video for today xD
That black Porsche at the start of the lap pulled away very strongly from the tuned BMW. It just disappear into the distance.
Even reading your explanation its still 100% his fault imo.. like you say, its traffic rules saying its his fault. Next to that, who doesnt even dare to check their own mirrors… especially driving under these circumstances, you need FULL situational awareness, also what happens behind you for exactly this reason.
Thanks for putting those km/h on dash for europe
IMHO the Opel was after an overtake and moving to the right to prepare for Schwedenkreuz. You were just covered by the bump when he started to brake to enter the corner.
He might have lost sight of you for a brief moment, and next thing he knew, you were next to him. He indicated no intentions to let you pass, so it's unfounded to assume.
I don't think anyone would take the right side of Schwedenkreuz on a 'fast' lap. For most TF drivers this corner is of pucker-factor grade so next to no one will check mirrors here.
Most TF drivers have less experience so if seasoned TFers push them, some will go beyond their limits. This is something to expect and a responsiblity of those more experienced.
Looked like you were in the Opel's blind spot, right behind his B pillar, that's very dangerous.
The entire bright green M4 was in the blind spot of a Corsa? The Corsa driver completely didn’t check his mirrors before steering towards the apex.
How many laps do you have around Nürburgring, all of them?
U have handled that well
CLOSE CALL ! Im always worrying about small cars
Very good anticipation.
Eventually you're gonna wipe out; it's all part of the game.
Just hope you and the owner walk away when the inevitable happens.
its already happened a few times.. it will happen again tho
Love how Misha then aggressively tails him right after💀
Porsche chase was the fun part of this lap
Its like watching some cars race, and some going for a nice Sunday drive add it with unpredictable bikers and the rest it's a suprise they not more accidents, imo bike days, car days and for experienced enough drivers
Look Mr Verstappen! ha only joking Misha, that Vauxhall Corsa? Had no clue about his surroundings, we all make mistakes and well you handled it like a champ.
Track Etiquette ! I thought anyone that got on the ring would know.
that BMW def got good brakes
How that black Cayman pulled away at the start, are you sure this is 550is BHP? Mine has it and looks a tad faster. Cheers Robin
Look like a GT4 but I agree, think it's 500bhp max...
I've noticed Misha is often a touch slow out the gate compared to other cars - maybe still feeling out the car a bit before pushing it, generally the section around 6:08 up the hill gives a good indication of how legit the power really is.
looks like he lost traction with rear tires and was spinning which is why it looks like the cayman is pulling a lot.
It has the scoops and discs in the rear wheels so it's probably a manthey gt4rs.
And 220 in the first compression it's proper fast, I don't doubt the claim.
The fault, not you or the Corsa, all is for the grass !! 😂 Was close. But well managed !
The Corsa just wasn't using their mirrors. It isn't hard to see a bright green object that literally had the nose next to the driver's door. They had a lot of space in front of them so people defending the Corsa for that seem wrong in my opinion. It was busy around that area but not at the corner of the near miss. And the fact they don't pull to the side on the next downhill further shows they were not checking behind. To be fair, they did not use their signals to let Misha through but that also makes me think they did not intend for Misha to overtake later on either. They may have just been trying to take a racing line there.
He was focused on taking the 100mph+ corner not his mirrors. I'm not saying the corsa is innocent but it's a public road open to amateurs, it's to be expected.
That Corsa was at fault. He did not monitor his mirrors at all, what a complete TOY! Thinks the whole track is his.
I feel like you though he saw you, but he had to take that line for the corner . So basicly , you came in hot, he didnt see you , you reaction was extremely calm and good, so he should be more aware on track for other cars, and you, i guess you could prevent such close calls by not pushing as much. But as i said, you handled it so good, its like nothing happend .
That guy also cut off the last guy in the line. As you drove off
Same as the road, never assume - it makes an ass(outof)u+me! You drive the ring so much that sometimes you get overconfident with passing people who don’t have a clue what they are doing, just expect the worst Misha never forget.
50 50. Perhaps Mischa was too confident going in and taking it for granted the Corsa driver had seen him, and the Corsa driver for poor situational awareness and not looking in the mirrors. Good reaction by Mischa saved it.
Guys i wanna go to the ring next year, what’s the best day and hour to go where there’s the least amount of people
Just any rainy wednesday evening will do.
i liked the part where he said that m4s are cheap nowadays
that porsche 718 🚀
Misha, why its M4 every time?)
His fault for not looking at the mirrors. How can you not see bright green sedan. We all make mistakes even the best ones.
I'd put the majority of the blame on the Corsa driver, you backed out of it and saved you both the hit. Seemed for all the world he left the door open just to shut it on you. Damn rapid for a stock M4.
It seems to me, that the bonnet was loose. Not completely closed.
Sure, 50/50... But _you_ 100% prevented it. 👌😎
The guy looks a bit like Aarron lambo...😳🤣
At that corner, given the bankment of the road almost 90% of drivers are gonna go left to hit that apex naturally. He would'nt have seen you as you were already in his blind spot after the crest. So you being a ring expert and this being TF, I would expect you to slow down rather than trying to pass him at that spot.
Misha presuming someone had seen him nearly killed someone here. This would have been a train wreck and to live with that would be awful just because you couldn’t be patient for one second. If you’re not 100% sure you stay behind.
If this was the first instance like this I wouldn’t say this but it regularly happens where he dives up the inside when the other car has clearly not given way. He’s literally bullying his way through.
And when Misha is the lead car in this situation he most definitely doesn’t give way instantly! There’s been times he’s held faster cars up for 5-6 corners so the move over if you’re slower clearly applies different meanings when he’s driving..
I love the channel, I love his content, passion and drive but he and others like him need to be far more cautious in the future.
Why does every car seem to be dropping a 550hp motor ?
Maybe the driver of the black car was committed to that line to make the turn. Coming off throttle and braking to let you by may have unsettled the car and caused loss of control. I think you in the more capable car should have waited until after the turn to line him up.
Close call for both but misha has cat like reflex
Corsa driver hitting 150kmh on the fastest part of the track trippin he is alone doing personal lap time record. Weaving left and right, and people yapping this was a risky overtake... Comment section full of F1 drivers apparently
I’d say he should be looking. It’s just like the autobahn expect there’s certain sections where you really aren’t supposed to pass unless you’re super quick. But in this case this if your driving style is always changing as it should, you need to keep an eye out for driving lanes n nuances around to avoid stuff like this. It’s just the hill they drove up on and driver going kinda wide a tiny bit. If you come wide then short look 👀
Chris Moyles is looking hench.
He didn't signal and probably wasn't looking at his mirrors. Considering how fast you came up on him and how fast he was going more than likely wasn't expecting anything. He moved off when he had the chance. 50-50
Opel for switching last second like he did without checking his angles..
3:59 you are welcome :)
Good video
Ugh the s55 sounds so horrible. Everything i think about selling the OG m2 and "upgrading" to a newer car, i hear the horrible noise they make and I'm reconvinced to keep the n55.
F8x are bang of the buck definitely.
It’s an overtake! , a “pass” means something way different
It wasn't anyone's fault, you were in the blind spot i think
Corsa at fault, regardless of how late you think Misha was, the Corsa moved left quickly oblivious to the m3 that was there.
Would have been a racing incident in my eyes only it's not a track day it's a public road
I heard parts of the writing were meant for trainees as refference points for braking/turning in?
Now Im starting to assume its both lol, little vandals putting writing. And the racers/trainees be like : “here at Hanz his name you start to brake, and at Fritz his name you start to turn in ja?”
And don't trust Adolf! XD
I believe that’s on you Misha, a last minute dive up the inside at 100 mph is not really leaving margin for safety I don’t think
Busy day at the public pool. :)
So corsas have mirror's as an option. Noted.
Clearly this one had mirror delete
@@tehmikesclips Gotta have that weight reduction 😂😂 #becauseracecar
Misha is him
Why these make such great production cars.
Damn Corsa’s! 😡
3:58
Trt from the Owner + car = 600 hp 😁
For me it's 50-50, the slowest have to pay attention to the fastest but the opposite as well, not everyone has 100000 euro for a car but has paid 30 euro also to have fun.
Human error, split second decision and other who doesnt look to the mirrors, luckily this didnt end badly.
The biker was at fault.
Damn bicycles.
3:58 am sure the driver doesn't check his mirrors 😒.. That's why checking your surrounding and keep looking at the mirrors keep you from cutting anyone pass you.. am not saying that keep looking at the mirrors all the time especially in a track. but at least keep checking every few seconds.
I wish yo Misha say it in a better way in that video.
Duckbill is cool but I like wings way better just my opinion just think wings look better