My favourite to recommend is Acanthoscurria Geniculata. Grow fast, fairly even temperament, large, beautiful, good eaters, leave fantastic sheds, and always out and about on show. Perfect for a starter T. Much better than any of the Grammostola Species (and I have or have owned all the ones you mention) as they are much more temperamental and can be very sporadic eaters. Just a personal thing I guess.
Hi, Dave! It's funny, as I've been asked repeatedly to do these types of lists, and I struggle with them for some of the very reason you point out. It honestly all depends on the individual keeping the tarantulas and the individual specimen in many cases. When putting this together, I did forum and internet searches to see what people recommended and what the consensus temperaments of each species was. Personally, I have a A. geniculata that is a total doll. I have a couple friends that have them that are more high-strung. When searching, it seemed like they were a hot or cold species in terms of temperament (some could argue, so is the G. porteri). It became quite apparent that there was no cut and dry answer, especially once you factor in everything from speed, temperament, potency of hairs, propensity to kick hairs, fasting, growth rate, etc. In the end, I tried to consider what a 10-12-year old kid would be okay with, and drew my cutoff line there. A. geniculata was one I struggled with and even had on the list at one point. I will definitely be revisiting this list in the future, and the genics will make it on. I will also spend more time delineating which species would be better to get as slings for a beginner. You make a great point that a A. geniculata sling is hardy, eats like a machine, and would grow faster. The lack of fasting would also be less frustrating for someone new to the hobby. Ahhhhh...lists! Hahaha. Thanks so much for your input. I'm going to pin this to the top so that hopefully others can see it and consider this species.
Great stuff. Like I say, everyone has their own preferences, I would never be without an A genic in my collection. Particularly easy to keep and a great display species. I know when I had my first spider, a G rosea (was called G spatulata then) I was worried when it didn't eat for long periods, thinking it was going to perish. Lived to a ripe old age in the end, but I've always thought the only reason they got recommended for beginners was they were so cheap. I think as long as you make it clear that they aren't always ideal for handling A geniculatas are perfect starter tarantulas.
Thanks! And I agree completely. I love the species myself and consider it to be one of the spiders you have to have in your collection. I love the G. porteri/rosea, but they can be unpredictable and the fasting gives people fits. I've have my G. porteri for 22 years now, and she has NEVER fasted. I totally lucked out with her. My G. rosea sling, on the other hand, has taken months off of feeding. Hahaha I think what trips me up with the beginner species is most folks that ask what species I'd recommend plan on handling. There is this misconception out there that every in the hobby handles everything, and a some folks don't get that there are certain species that should be hands off. In the case of a hands-off keeper, they are perfect.
Brazilian white knee tarantula is my first spider. I bought her one month ago and I love her! She is so beautiful and really easy to handle. 😍 (sorry for my english, I’m Lithuanian 😂)
YaBoiLucifer I just got my 1st one 2mo ago, a curly hair named Elenore for this reason. It honestly is working. I don't handle her but in worrying about her well bieng I'm far less afraid. I'm getting a 2nd soon lol.
Same here! Did you get one already? Next year I'll move out of my mom's house to study somewhere else so I can get one! The channel "Exotics Lair" got me into T's! I never realized how fascinating they could be even though I used to be so afraid of spiders, the look so beautiful. I think I'll firstly look around to find one in reality ( in a store or something to look at ) so I won't be as shocked if I actually get one. Also handling them is off topic for me too.
Bruce Electrobounce I can totally relate to that, I’m getting better at it, I actually talk to spiders now lol but they still spook me out sometimes. Some spiders are cute.
She is. Since I upgraded her terrarium, she hasn't wanted to be out, which saddens me but I know she is just adjusting and loving her new home with mossy bark and large steps into platform with cave below. I cannot wait until she is bigger. Love your video btw.
I just got her 2 weeks ago. I am uncertain her age (forgot to ask) but she is no where close to full grown. she sits comfortably in palm of my hand being about the size of my palm. I know her leg span can reach 8.5 inches. I think she has like 2 inch leg span atm. But I am no professional so I cannot tell. lol
good story, but just so everyone knows, if a terrestrial tarantula falls from even waist high they can easily die from a bursted abdomen...........need to be extremely careful
Its awesome how you still reply to newer comments on this 2 year old video, Im finally getting a Tarantula after many years of waiting Chaco Golden Knee will be getting it next week!
@@TomsBigSpiders Can't wait for that video! do you have any tips on taking care of a 1 month old spiderling? its my first tarantula and I dont wanna mess it up!
@@VideoGameFX Yeah, I wrote out a whole thing about the tiny slings. This is the second one of these I found today. UGH. One second...I'll just cut and past it from the article...
I would also recommend an A. Geniculata. As a beginner I wouldn't think of handling a tarantula, but of how to actually take care of it, and these species can teach you that very easily. They eat all the time, as if they had been starving for months (even though they may have eaten just a week ago), it's a lot of fun to watch them hunt their prey. Mine would sometimes take the roach right off the tongs, I wouldn't even manage to drop it or think of anything at all. Also many beginners tend to overmoist the enclosure, worrying about leaving it too dry - and from what I have seen, Geniculatas can forgive that. Mine chills near the water dish right in the open, and it's still small (L7) but I've seen it drink from water dish a few times, even though the substrate was not so dry. And since they tend to stay out in the open - makes a perfect spider to observe and show off. It's very, very active - mine would change the "architecture" quite often, carrying substrate all around. And now, after she hasn't eaten a few times, she went to her hide (first time since I got her!) and closed off the entrance-yep, she hasn't eaten cause she's going to molt, all right. I love how easy it is to take care of her. Regarding temperament - they do kick hairs, but only when disturbed. She doesn't do anything if I add water in the water dish or something, but once I tried to make her go away from water dish to take it and wash it - and she was like "Nope, not going anywhere, YOU go away". Definitely include it in the next list! =)
Hello, Olga! I left this one off initially because for every person that seemed to do fine with it as a beginner, there were others that were intimidated by it, However, check out the new list if you get a chance: th-cam.com/video/MKMHuyExcc0/w-d-xo.html :)
@@TomsBigSpiders Thank you!Ok, I forgive you =D Will you make a dedicated husbandry video for these species? I haven't seen one on the channel. That would be amazing.
Thanks so much Hector! Yeah, I figured that I should probably add some text, as I was talking VERY fast. I just didn't want to video to turn out too long and boring. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders I just found your other video with the 13 top beginner species! On info overload right now. I found some T. Violacius slings for sale, and they are so beautiful as adults-I’m unsure if they would be okay for a beginner because of their speed. Do you have any videos regarding the purple tree spiders?
Chilean rose hairs are highly under rated. The one I had had a great disposition. only ever kicked hairs once at me as a very small sling. Mine was fairly active and did web up her enclosure a fair amount. She did go off food but only in the winter months.
I just got my first tarantula, a Mexican red rump, for the holidays. She's just a baby, but she is already eating like crazy. I was so happy to see that she made the list :~)
Great list! I own 2 A. chalcodes. One is a hair kicker every time I deal with the box, the other hasn't thrown a single hair or threat pose. Very touch or go species!
Just got my first tarantula, a 1.25" gbb sling. I love watching him (gender unknown, using he) walk around on his webs. He has a great appetite too! I already want 5 more haha.
Hi, Kaity! Congratulations! I LOVE that species (I have two adult females that I got as slings). They are awesome eaters. Be careful...one quickly turns into 100. :)
I absolutely LOVE my G. Porteri She is so gentle and absolutely gorgeous. Her contrasting hairs and rose colors cephalothorax are gorgeous. idk if I just have a really nice specimen or what, but i'm 99% sure she was wild caught as a nearly adult. I got her as my first nearly a decade ago.
Even though it wasn't my first, I'd consider any of the Lasiodoras as a good first one, if you aren't interested in handling. My L Klugi is wonderful, eats like a horse unless in premolt. Her growth rate is very impressive. In fact, she just molted 2 days ago and is stunning. The colors seem to get brighter each time. Even though you can't handle her in any way shape or form, she's usually pretty even tempered, no problems with bolting or aggression. I've found with mine that tong feeding may not be a good idea because she attacked the time and almost ran up them. Simply drop the feeder in front of or just beside the spider. I keep mine with a full water dish at all times. I raise the humidity when in premolt and keep the enclosure at 80 degrees. Of course, any heat sources should be located at a minimum of 8 inches away. If the roof of the enclosure is warmer then your forehead, it's too hot!! I use a variable voltage switch and a heat lamp. It should be noted that heat is not strictly speaking necessary, but improves activity level and growth rate. I obtained mine on August 11 and she was only slightly larger then a wolf spider. At the end of December 5.5 months later, she's about 3x the size she was when I got her.
Thank you! This video was very informative and helpful. Tarantulas are on my list and I want to learn more. This video helped a lot- still haven't decided which to get though! :)
Back when this was published, you could find them for that cheap. In the states, many are now more expensive because we don't do enough breeding here and have to import our slings from Europe. Also, prices can differ from country to country.
Aphonopelma hentzi, I think you would have to grab the spider's fang and literally drive into your skin to get a bite from one of these and they have a typical dry terrestrial setup. The only downside is they truly are just a brown spider. For a beginner arboreal species I recommend the Avicularia minatrix, they tend to be calmer than the other Avicular sp. and they like it completely dry with just a weekly lite spraying. Not to mention the fact that they are pink and keep the juvenile abdomen pattern.
my first T is a 1/4 inch brachypelma vagans. shes too small to interact with at all so i appreciate the video to help with my next purchase. im thinking of getting a smithi
Hello! B. vagans are an awesome species. They grow pretty fast for a beginner species, so she'll put on some size for you soon. :) B. smithi are fantastic. :)
Great video! I got my first B. albo sling a month and a half ago and she (hopefully she!) just molted! Put on over 1/2" with one molt. I'm going to an expo this Sunday and am definitely going to come home with a few more T's (hopefully at least one adult). Your blog and the arachnoboards have been extremely helpful, so thank you! Also: hahaha is that leg in the G. pulchripes enclosure part of an old molt?
did I miss you doing the A hentzi? They're amazing! my first, which cured my arachnophobia was the hentzi. they're slow, will just walk into your hand, would prefer to run and hide than to kick hairs or throw a threat pose (but will if prevoked enough). Only downside is they will go into winter fasting and can take forever to moult! mine was in premolt when I got her in the summer last year, fasted through the winter, at one meal in the spring and finally molted this month! that was atleast 10months waiting for her to molt! when I saw premolt she was showing the early signs of reduced eating, looking puffy searching for a spot to make her molt bed (digging random places). as she got closer in the spring she started to web her live prey to save for later when she use to just ignore it if she wasn't hungry. but aside from these (what i call little things), they make a great first time T! especially if you live in the south.
Nope, you didn't miss it! Although they can be great beginners, they aren't readily available in some countries, and they tend to get overlooked for A. chalcodes in the US. That said, there are many other species that will make good beginners that didn't make this list. That's one of the reasons the top ten lists are a bit silly. :) Thanks for chiming in!
I love arachnids but I live in a cold climate... I wanted a tarantula when I was little but idk I could keep one in Massachusetts, I'd worry about it's health in the winter :(
Thanks, bud! I'll be doing an intermediate list at some point, and I'll be adding the genic. I just think that a beginner T should be accessible to everyone, and the genic are just a bit much for some. :) Phormictopus cancerides is another one I really thought about including as an alternative to the LP, but I'm saving it.
Ok I'd say if you can get a Geniculata then go for it but as you say it could fall into the next category. I agree with you re Phormictopus as I have two and they have been great, although my Atrichomatus really likes to go walkabout. I'd also say my Pamphoboteus Machalla has been pretty straightforward but again another one that falls into the next category. It's easy when you have the experience to perhaps forget what's it's like when you first started so I think your orig list spot on but there's a few that depending on the person could be a beginner species. People tend to react strongly if you said go for an OBT right at the start. I wouldnt actually tell a confident person who has done the research no because as slings it's just the speed that's the issue. One might even say any spiderling Tarantula is a good beginner T but then we need to have an easy list to start with and add categories as a fail safe. (if you catch my drift. I.e we need the distinctions to keep things as safe as possible for all levels). Personnally after watching vids from yourself, Tarantulaguy1976, Jon3800, and Deadly T girl I feld pretty confident to buy any Spiderling but thats because of the research and my own personal level of calmness. (although I must say a yr in and I just had my first real nightmare with my H Mac so it's def a hobby you have to be on the ball! I found it on my bed's leg, you dont know the relief, I think I also had my first dose of Tarantula hairs on the back of the throat).
Hi tom me again. First just wanted to say thank you for all the help and info you have given me getting into the hobby! Second I wanted to ask about temperatures for my h pulchripes. I know you say repeatedly if you are comfy the spider is comfy keep them at room temp. But to me comfortable is 59-68F and infact I have been kicking my heat on (which I normally never do) to get my place up to the 70s after I got my little baboon. But for me 70s may as well be a sauna. (I live at 9000ft in the Colorado Rockies and am very used to colder temps). I listened to your most recent podcast where you mentioned your spider room is at about 78. Is it ok to keep this species at lower temps where I am comfortable or do I need to bite that bullet and bump up my temps to keep the spider happy and healthy
Hello, BadJackalope! Thank you so much! It's funny, because my room temperature is actually quite cool as well. It's why I started putting a range on some of my newer videos. The first two years I was keeping, the temps in the tarantula room were 68-70 in the winter, and they sometimes dropped to 65. They did just fine in these temps. Have you tried putting them on a higher shelf? You can sometimes pick up a few degrees that way if you want to keep the overall temps lower. What is the lowest you could deal with?
Great video, watching from GB 🇬🇧 I'm 16 currently and trying to find a weekend job, as soon as I do I'm 100% trying to get a tarantula, I don't know if you can get most of these species in the UK but I'm going to research, but 1 big problem is is that my mum probably won't let me get one(my whole families afraid of spiders) I am afraid of spiders also(the smaller they are the more scared I am of them) I don't know why but I'm 100% fine with tarantulas. I somehow convinced my mum to allow me to get a corn snake, any tips on convincing my mum on letting me get a sling? And I know I said I'm scared of smaller spiders and slings are small but they're going to be in a tub and not next to my head at night 😂
Thanks so much! You should be able to find most of these species in the UK. I believe the majority of them are available over there. I wasn't allowed to get a tarantula until I moved out of my parents' house. I would keep talking about tarantulas with her, sharing some of the things you find out as you research. If you can, try to get her to watch some videos talking about them and their care. The trick is to approach it not like you're trying to convince her, but more that you are trying to share some of the fascinating information you're finding out about them. A lot of folks are apprehensive at first, but they soon become interested. Good luck!
the spider in the blue container had a random spider leg laying there. I couldn't be the only one who seen that. plz correct me if I'm wrong bc I'm actually curious
That's true! New World species (ones from the Americas and surrounding island) can kick urticating (irritating) hairs from their abdomens as a defense against predators.
Hi Tom. Big fan! I love your podcast! I have had tarantulas for a long time now, new world and old world. But I want to try breeding. What type would you say is a good starter tarantula to breed for the first time? Best wishes from Norway!
Hello! First off, thank you so much...I truly appreciate your very kind words. :) The trick is to choose a species that is easy to breed AND that people will want slings from. Personally, I started with the Hapalopus sp. Colombia large, and that one worked out great for me. What species do you have? I could tell you which ones I would start with. :)
This is what I currently have: Aphonopelma seemanni Avicularia avicularia brachypelma auratum davus pentaloris Monocentropus Balfouri(slings) orphnaecus sp blue panay Poecilotheria tigrinawesseli poecilotheria fasciata phormingochilus sp. rufus(slings) Cyriopagopus lividus Lasiodora parahybana Pamphobeteus sp. Tigris Pamphobeteus sp. Machalla Haplopelma albostria Grammostola pulchripes(sling) thank you so much for responding! Not many people like you out there!
I really wanna get over my fear of spiders !! Specially larger types . surprisingly I’m fascinated by tarantulas ! And love the idea of owning one to help me appreciate them more and help with my fear of spiders in general .. I own a snake and lizard both of whom I used to be terrified of now I LOVE them and can even let them chill around my neck or shoulder.. now I wanna get into Tarantulas and I really hope I get the same results I did with snakes and lizards Hell I was even scared of cats at one point up until I finally had one come in and change my life !!!now I adore all cats
I got my first tarantula in the '90s partially to get over my fear of them. I totally get it. I don't like having an irrational fear of an animal. It took years, but they no longer scare me! :)
Hey man! Just added a 1 in B. Hamorii (female hopefully) to my collection today. Now I've got a work T (Vagans) and a home T :) Thanks again for all you do! \[T]/
Tom Moran the woman I got her from just pulled an egg sac from her Brazilian Wandering Spider pair. Is that a spider you would consider getting or is the potential danger too much when considering your family/pets?
Oh, man...that's awesome! For the time being, that one is not in the cards for me. That would just be too much of a risk with the family. Sigh...maybe some day. haha
I have a Curly, he was my first, had him a little over a year now, great beginner species, I have four T's now lol my second was a Euathlus green, also had him just about a year now, good spider though mine isn't able to be handled, I don't handle mine anyways. Third was a GBB, she was young and totally insane when I got her, still a little flighty but she's calmed considerably, plus she's gorgeous!
I love that species. I still need to get a Euathlus green. How is your's temperament? I've heard they can be a bit more skittish than the reds. My GBBs are two of the more skittish Ts I keep, and they are not afraid to kick some hairs. :)
Tom Moran My Green is totally chill most days but he has his moments where he freaks out and bolts and I swear he teleports he's so quick, it's a bit startling lol he's also a hibernator, I haven't seen him since early December.
I was wondering where you got your acrylic enclosures with the hinged, latching tops. I'm considering getting a tarantula but I dont want to have to modify a screen top of a glass enclosure.
Very curious and would like to understand more, you say you aren't personally a handler in the hobby and try not to promote it. Could you elaborate a little on that? Would like to own a spider of my own but I'm looking to learn as much as possible before hand.
No problem! When I first got into the hobby years ago, I was under the impression that handling was expected and part of the hobby. I now realize that's not the case, and many hobbyists choose not to hold or handle their spiders. Instead, they treat them as you would exotic fish (a pet man people keep and no one handles). The fact is, they don't get anything out of handling; they are not "cuddly" creatures that need physical attention. Some will tolerate it more than others, but it's not needed for them to thrive. Handling in many cases can put the spider and the keeper at unnecessary risk. The keeper can be exposed to getting haired (some kick irritating hairs when they are startled) or a bite. The tarantula can also be at risk from a fall or from getting flung if it bites a keeper. Also, many of us keep Old World species of tarantulas that are usually quite defensive and have powerful venom that can really put a hurting on you. For these guys, you don't want your hands anywhere near them. It's best to practice good habits by keeping your hands away from them. That said, I know many folks in the hobby who handle, and I've handled in the past. I'm not one of those people that gets bent out of shape when I hear about it (many hobbyists are dead set against the practice). I just think folks should be properly informed before they make the decision for themselves. Here's an article I wrote about it that explains it all better. tomsbigspiders.com/2014/11/26/handling-tarantulas-some-things-to-consider/ I hope that helps!
Fantastic video, thank you for the information. Very new, and maybe looking to get into this. (I do have a question > I'm looking for one not big, I'm not going to hold it or play with it, one i don't have to clean up after mych or often, no humidity. Is their one you can think of?
Thanks so much! If you're not going to handle, I would check out a Salmon birdeater (Lasiodora Parahybana) or even a Phormictopus Cancerides. Bothe get quite large, eat great, and grow quite fast.
Wow man I have a spiderling still of a Mexican red knee and I went to a reptile show and said I want a big spider and got the Goliath bird eater just like u said that crazy how you know
Hi Tom, I have been watching your videos for a while now and I really enjoy them - I don't own any tarantulas at the moment but I have been thinking about getting one for a while as they are fascinating animals. I really want to get a euathlus sp red purely because of there sweet nature and I do think they are kind of cute lol and possibly the curly hair.
Thank you for the kind words. Those Euathlus are just SO cute. You could see how friendly mine is. I find myself accidentally handling her quite a bit. haha. The curly hairs are also amazing..very calm as well. :)
Hey Tom. I am really wanting a Chillian Flame. Where is a good place to find one? I looked on Fear Not. But didn't see any. Also Update on my Avic. She is doing Awesome.
Hi, Karson! Man, I can't find them anywhere. Folks had slings a while back, but everyone seems to be out of them now. So glad to hear that your Avic is doing well!
Where would I be able to find a Chilean flame? We’re looking at getting our first spider and we really liked it. We have everything we need, now we just need to find a place. However we don’t live close to any local places...anywhere you would recommend online or that we could call etc?
I live in a state where you can't buy tarantulas in pet stores or expos, so I buy all of mine online. Some place you can check out are Fear Not Tarantulas, Jamie's Tarantulas, Net-bug, Palp Friction, Swift's Inverts, and Pinchers & Pokies.
Thanks for the response! So I had a question that you may have been asked before. Honestly two questions..When looking at cages etc. we ended up using glass to be able to heat it, however for future reference, how would you go about heating a silicone, acrylic or plastic enclosure with these guys? I am in Whidbey Island Washington and it gets very cold here in the winter so the spider is for sure going to need some heating...you cant use UHT's with any of those enclosures..so what solutions are out there for that? I plan on having more spiders and don't have the luxury of shelling out money for glass aquariums and terrariums for these guys so I am going to need to find a way to keep them warm in the winter and obviously the acrylic and plastic enclosures are a lot more economic price wise. Last question...what spider would you recommend out of these as a first spider, Honduran Curly hair, Chilean Rose hair, Chilean Flame, Mexican Red Knee, Mexican Fire leg, Brazilian Black, or the Zebra? I know that is a lot of questions in a comment, I have been doing research but there are sooooo many opinions and conflicting information. Thanks! After doing some research I have been leaning more towards getting the curly hair.
what about the pink toe!????? They're always so friendly and beautiful! Fun to watch grow as well, as the go from pink with black toes, to black with pink toes! :)
I'm thinking about going back into the tarantula trade I love the Mexican redknees Brazilian blacks and Chaco golden knee should I trust getting some shipped from the states as I live in Canada or should I try to find adults here ? cheers
Great species, all three of them! You have some good tarantula vendors in Canada that you could check out: www.arachnophiliacs.com/ tarantulacanada.ca/news.php
I don't know if you'll reply to this but I was wondering if you could help me decide. I am really interested in the Brazilian black or the red knee as a beginner. However I am just not sure which one would be best in terms of getting a sling versus an adult.
Of course I'll reply! :) Both of these species make excellent first tarantulas. If you get a sling of either species, expect it to be very slow growing. It will be quite a few years before you have a beefy tarantula on your hands. Personally, I would look for something juvenile-sized (1.5-2.5" or so) that's well started and past the very slow growth rates of small slings. This would give you something that's a little more durable while still allowing you to watch the spider grow up. Does that help?
Yes it helps, thanks but now after doing so much research I am really set on the Avicularia Versicolor species. the main thing I'm worried about since I'm getting a sling is how often I should feed the sling and how often I should drop water/ mist it? I'm getting one from Jamie's Tarantulas along with her spiderling aboreal enclosure kit.
Will that be your first tarantula? Just be aware that versi slings are bit less resistant to husbandry mistakes. The feeding schedule is up to you. Some folks like to feed them once a week. I want my slings (espcially the A. versicolor) to outgrow that fragile sling stage faster, so I feed them 2-3 times a week. As for misting, twice a week works for most.
After realizing I wanted my first to be as least stressful as possible I went ahead and bought a Brazillian Black from a local store where I live. Its 1 1/2 inches so its not quite a sling now I'd say. I like the temperment and black color they get. Already ate 2 pinhead crickets haha
Hello, Alexander! I order most of mine from dealers online. You can check out Fear Not Tarantulas, Pinchers and Pokies, Jamie's Tarantulas, and Swift's Inverts to start!
They CAN be a good starter species, although there is a lot of bad care info out there for them (which leads to some death). I would encourage folks who start with this species to start with a larger specimen and not a sling.
Hi, Jose! Which species are you looking for? Females are in demand for breeding purposes and because they generally live more. Sexed specimens usually command much higher prices. And, in the case of larger females, they cost even more. Let me know which species you're looking for and I'll try to get you some leads.
For dry species, I spot clean and do a full cleaning once a year or so (sometimes less). Vertical housing is appropriate for arboreal species. Arboreal beginner species include Avicularia avicularia (pinktoe) and Caribena versicolor.
I really want to overcome my fear of severe arachnophobia, are tarantulas a good way to go? I'd like a docile one, I'd think a tarantula would be good because it's big and very visible, the smaller ones that run fast as hell and lose sight of are the ones that scare me!
It depends on a how often its fed and the temperatures it's kept at. One kept warmer and fed more often would likely mature in 3-5 years or so. I have one that's 5" now that I bought in 2013 as a .75" sling. She's been kept in the 70s in the winter and mid-70s to 80 in the summer and feed weekly once she hit about 3" or so. So, it really varies.
Hello, Jensid! I've spoken to other hobbyists in the Philippines, and apparently, you are supposed to have papers to keep them legally. However, apparently there is a huge illegal trade there, which is why so many people have them (and why some TH-camrs from there don't show their faces).
im scared to have one but i really want one im scared that it can got away wondering around the house im not scared of being bitten or something any suggestion
Which species were you thinking of getting? Most of the ones on this list are not "runners", meaning rehousings aren't that bad at all. If you get a nice, secure enclosure, they shouldn't be able to escape either.
I fell in love with rosies working at Petco a few years back and now I can't find them anywhere due to the ban... do you have any recommendations where I can find one? I finally convinced my husband that they aren't scary and I'm heartbroken that I can't find them anywhere. I live in Southern California.
I've been thinking of getting one to overcome my fear of spiders and to have something to show off to friends , I called a exotic pet store and they only had pink toes and they were from 40 to 100 bucks which i dont have to spend at the moment. Idk where to start and don't really know if I should start with a pink toe or something of tbe sort
So I'm bout to get my first one and I'm Soo excited 😁😁...but I didn't hear or just overheard....how are Mexican Red knee...they are pretty and I heard they are good as well with begginers and temperament is good to
Thanks for the reply...I wish I had some one knowledgeable like you to talk to over hear...cause I have Soo many questions but nobody wants to help me Soo I'm left on my own
@@marcusmassey6654 Well, Marcus...if there is anything that I can help you with, just ask. Just start a new comment, as I tend to lose them after I answer them the first time!
@@TomsBigSpiders so the Mexican Red knee is unavailable and the fireleg is available I would like to go to a breeder but I know I'm going to pay alot...I just don't know what to do....but I really want one...my love for reptiles have grown for some time now
As a beginner I'd like to start with the Mexican Red Knee tarantula! But I personally LOVE the Versicolour! Your presentation is AWESOME, the BEST I've seen by far THANK YOU!
Thank you so much! The only issue with the versicolors is that they need a bit more babying early on, and mortality rates for slings seem to be a bit higher than with other species.
To anybody with arachnophobia!! I grew up with the WORST fear of spiders. I remember passing out when i’d see Daddy Long Legs (or however they’re called). I went to a reptile expo once and held one to try to get rid of my phobia and I actually fell in love! I’ve had my pink toe for a year now and they’re super chill animals! Would definitely recommend if you’re trying to fight a phobia😁
I just got my Arizona Blond 2 days ago. She so sassy, and i love her. Had to wait 18yr to get one. Just cause she so sassy i don't think I'll ever try an Handle her, but i don't see a reason to. She's not a dog. ^////^ she is so cute though!!! Ate as soon as i put food in on day one catching all the crikets in like 5mins. [She so much faster than i thought they were!!]
even though you say "slow" or "pet rock", we got our first T's this Oct. rose flame, curly hair, versicolor, and Golden knee. not planning on handeling much. but living art and loved. wish us luck lol
You really should!! I'm in my 50s and got my first T (Rose Hair) in my late 40s. They are the best roommate you could ever have. The best advice I can give you- if you have cats, please have a lock on the cage. My fluffy tailed demon has moved the screen top 1/4 inch open (old type of container with no lock). I found Hairyette hiding behind my hand towel at the sink 25ft away. I took a pic before the rescue. The same fluffy butt showed me where she was. The first time it happened I walked in to Hairy in threat posture on the carpet and my 2 cats sitting around looking like "wth are you and why are you out?". I have had her close to 10 yrs and only 2 escapes. I need to get a newer living quarters to prevent it but for now I have a strip of tape across it.
After reading your article and watching this video I picked up my first tarantulas ever (a Chilean rose, Chilean flame, & 2 Brazilian blacks). Im absolutely terrified of insects & spiders, but for some reason Im not scared of tarantulas. You do such an amazing job explaining your tarantulas especially their temperaments and negatives. Thank you so much for getting me into this hobby!!!!!
Congrats, Chloe! You picked up some awesome species there. :) I started out terrified of spiders and tarantulas, and it took me a few years to get completely over it. Thank you so much for your very kind words...that just made my day! :)
My first tarantula (is my only tarantula, so far): #CaribenaVersicolor. I’ve had her 2.5 years. She’s molted 9 times and she’s puppy-dog tame. 😊 Named her “Fluffy,” and she’s helped me get over my 40+ Year-long arachnophobia.
I don't know why the rosie's get so much hate? I owned two as my first t's and both we easy as hell to take care of. As long as you're not a complete idiot and know what to look for you'll be fine.
They are a great species. They are hardy, great eaters, most of the time docile, cheap, look great when fully developed. There is so much information on the boards and youtube as to how to take of T's. It drives me crazy also.
The potential for a highly defensive T is definitely off putting for some. My family had one while I was a kid who was one of these highly defensive "psycho rosies" despite being told they're extremely calm. It died after a bad molt and the temperment definitely put my parents off getting another in the future, especially having kids in the house. If you can get one with a proven docile temperment or you're prepared for the potential for a higjly defensive T then I think they're a great species, but they do have the potential to put people off the hobby forever if we don't properly inform people of the fact this species seems to have a much higher number of defensive specimens than other beginner friendly species.
hi Tom, My B. albopilosum is completely opposite to what you said about them. Living devil. Attacks everything it can reach. I wouldn't dare to put a finger into her enclosure. It's good evidence that temperaments vary between specimens. My B. vagans is calm opposite to the common belief. What is your opinion on starting with arboreal species? What is your opinion on having T. ockerti as the first "arboreal" species in someones collection?
Excellent point, and one I've tried to explain to folks with an interest in handling. I have Old Worlds that are completely docile and New World species that would bite you in a heartbeat. It all depends on the temperament of the individual spider. I do think there are species that then to be, in general, more docile than others, but attitudes may vary. I know plenty of folks that started with arboreals, and most started with either an Avicularia species or Caribena versicolor. The problem with these species isn't the temperament, but the fact that they are a bit less hardy than the terrestrials commonly available. Someone new to the hobby will be learning all the basic facets of tarantula husbandry as they go (how to feed, cleaning, cage setup, temperature, moisture requirements, rehousing, etc), and these species can be a bit less forgiving of husbandry mistakes. I think if a new keeper really does his or her research well beforehand, they can make good beginner species. As for the other New World arboreals like Psalmopoeus and Tapinauchenius species, those species are a bit too fast and feisty for most new hobbyists to handle. I think the T. ockerti could be a manageable first tarantula. They are definitely hardy, but they are VERY skittish and prone to kicking hairs. In my experience, a lot of folks just getting into keeping tarantulas are looking for one they can handle, and I definitely wouldn't include the ockerti as one of the generally tractable species.
Thanks for answer. It's just general opinion on species but every specimen has its own character. I recently came accross some B. albopilosums that tend to be aggresive and also the number of reports of aggresive specimens in my country (Poland) is quite interesting, cause they are considered the most docile species. My cousin started with T. gigas mature female. His colleague gave him this T as a good begginer species. That's true this genus literally teleports. My cousin keeps Avis in an interesting enclosure. IT is made of glass with a bottom part of one side wall made of steelwire net (sry don't know proper english word for this) and a top side of opposite side wall made also of this kind of net. It allows for a cross ventilation and he keeps the enclosure itself really moisty. The results is no deaths of Avis including slings for the last 5 years. I think a key to success with Avis is high humidity with good ventilation (as they have in a higher parts of trees in their natural environment) .
That is really interesting about the B. albopilosums. I wonder if the ones you have come from a particular population of them that is more defensive? I know there are already suspected to be three types of B. albos available over here: Honduran, Nicaraguan, and "hobby form" (usually considered to be some type of hybrid). I'm not sure if there have been any temperament differences between the three. Starting with a T. gigas? Now that's impressive! Yeah, the general consensus with the Avics now is that ventilation is incredibly important. Over here, most folks now keep them dry with a water dish and good cross ventilation once they are out of the sling stage. Some keep the slings moist, others dry with a dish. That cage design sounds very cool!
The problem with Brachypelmas in Europe is that they are in fact mostly hybrids. I have read somewhere that is is really easy to crossbreed albopilosum and vagans. Maybe it's "vagans gene"? It's still considered the most docile species . The key to start with T. gigas was that he didn't know, what he holds into his enclosure. :D The spider itself was quite calm but really fast. Yeah the idea is to recreate its natural conditions into tree tops (high humidity + a lot of fresh air).
I actually have what I suspect to be an albo/vagan cross. They call this the "hobby form" in the States, as it pops up quite a bit and is usually sold as a B. albo. Vagan genes would certainly account for the more high-strung B. albos. Great point. I still believe that a lot of the species we think NEED high humidity just tolerate it where they come from. Many of the species that were thought to be moisture dependent 10 years ago are now kept dry with no issues. It's interesting to me how well they adapt.
I just wanted to say something about the first trantula that you showed. Brachypelma albopilosum or the curly hair. I've heard people say and I seen him different post that they think that this is not a very attractive trantula. In fact I've had people call it ugly. Really! I just want to point out two things. First I have never seen an ugly tarantula. They are living works of art and they are all beautiful. And second if you've ever seen any of these spiders in person anyone can tell you that they look a whole lot better in person then they do on camera or in pictures. So keep that in mind when you're looking for a new or first tarancula.
I used to hold spiders when I was younger. To dumb to realize some could kill. But when I got older I'm pretty freaked about spiders. At the same time I kinda want a pet tarantula. Took me awhile to realize the home invaders are grass spiders harmless to us
Tom Moran even if I got into it I probably never be that guy with a trapdoor or any other aggressive one lol. I like the Antilles pink toe and Mexican fireleg. Just a matter of talking my wife into letting me have one. That's the problem. Parents wouldn't let me when I lived with them. Wife won't now. But I'm allowed to have a bearded dragon lol
Hey, I don't blame anyone for not wanting one of the feistier ones! There are plenty of amazing species out there that won't give you a heart attack with their attitudes (or send you to the hospital with a bite!). My parents wouldn't let me have snakes or tarantulas (it was my mom basically) so when my wife and I moved out together, I got both. hahaha. I'm VERY lucky that she's into them, too...or at least does a great job pretending like she is. lol
Same when I was younger I would go out looking for snakes, spiders, and amphibians. I’m terrified of spiders but not snakes or anything now. I want a spider tho after watching some videos for a while. May be buying a pink toe.
My favourite to recommend is Acanthoscurria Geniculata. Grow fast, fairly even temperament, large, beautiful, good eaters, leave fantastic sheds, and always out and about on show. Perfect for a starter T. Much better than any of the Grammostola Species (and I have or have owned all the ones you mention) as they are much more temperamental and can be very sporadic eaters. Just a personal thing I guess.
Hi, Dave! It's funny, as I've been asked repeatedly to do these types of lists, and I struggle with them for some of the very reason you point out. It honestly all depends on the individual keeping the tarantulas and the individual specimen in many cases. When putting this together, I did forum and internet searches to see what people recommended and what the consensus temperaments of each species was. Personally, I have a A. geniculata that is a total doll. I have a couple friends that have them that are more high-strung. When searching, it seemed like they were a hot or cold species in terms of temperament (some could argue, so is the G. porteri). It became quite apparent that there was no cut and dry answer, especially once you factor in everything from speed, temperament, potency of hairs, propensity to kick hairs, fasting, growth rate, etc. In the end, I tried to consider what a 10-12-year old kid would be okay with, and drew my cutoff line there.
A. geniculata was one I struggled with and even had on the list at one point. I will definitely be revisiting this list in the future, and the genics will make it on. I will also spend more time delineating which species would be better to get as slings for a beginner. You make a great point that a A. geniculata sling is hardy, eats like a machine, and would grow faster. The lack of fasting would also be less frustrating for someone new to the hobby.
Ahhhhh...lists! Hahaha. Thanks so much for your input. I'm going to pin this to the top so that hopefully others can see it and consider this species.
Great stuff. Like I say, everyone has their own preferences, I would never be without an A genic in my collection. Particularly easy to keep and a great display species. I know when I had my first spider, a G rosea (was called G spatulata then) I was worried when it didn't eat for long periods, thinking it was going to perish. Lived to a ripe old age in the end, but I've always thought the only reason they got recommended for beginners was they were so cheap. I think as long as you make it clear that they aren't always ideal for handling A geniculatas are perfect starter tarantulas.
Thanks! And I agree completely. I love the species myself and consider it to be one of the spiders you have to have in your collection. I love the G. porteri/rosea, but they can be unpredictable and the fasting gives people fits. I've have my G. porteri for 22 years now, and she has NEVER fasted. I totally lucked out with her. My G. rosea sling, on the other hand, has taken months off of feeding. Hahaha I think what trips me up with the beginner species is most folks that ask what species I'd recommend plan on handling. There is this misconception out there that every in the hobby handles everything, and a some folks don't get that there are certain species that should be hands off. In the case of a hands-off keeper, they are perfect.
Brazilian white knee tarantula is my first spider. I bought her one month ago and I love her! She is so beautiful and really easy to handle. 😍 (sorry for my english, I’m Lithuanian 😂)
Congratulations Rosita. Welcome to the hobby. Before you know it you'll have a house full of them. It's an addiction. :D
I'm actually going to get a tarantula to get rid of my arachnophobia
I got my first one about 21 years ago for the same reason (I was terrified of them but also fascinated by them). It took a while, but it worked. :)
YaBoiLucifer I just got my 1st one 2mo ago, a curly hair named Elenore for this reason. It honestly is working. I don't handle her but in worrying about her well bieng I'm far less afraid. I'm getting a 2nd soon lol.
NurseMandy D I will definitely not be handling them.
Same here! Did you get one already?
Next year I'll move out of my mom's house to study somewhere else so I can get one!
The channel "Exotics Lair" got me into T's! I never realized how fascinating they could be even though I used to be so afraid of spiders, the look so beautiful.
I think I'll firstly look around to find one in reality ( in a store or something to look at ) so I won't be as shocked if I actually get one.
Also handling them is off topic for me too.
Bruce Electrobounce I can totally relate to that, I’m getting better at it, I actually talk to spiders now lol but they still spook me out sometimes. Some spiders are cute.
I have a chaco golden knee, named athena. love how docile she is. she is so adventurous and sweet.
Awwwwww...she sounds awesome! :)
She is. Since I upgraded her terrarium, she hasn't wanted to be out, which saddens me but I know she is just adjusting and loving her new home with mossy bark and large steps into platform with cave below. I cannot wait until she is bigger. Love your video btw.
What size is she? Full grown?
Thank you! :)
I just got her 2 weeks ago. I am uncertain her age (forgot to ask) but she is no where close to full grown. she sits comfortably in palm of my hand being about the size of my palm. I know her leg span can reach 8.5 inches. I think she has like 2 inch leg span atm. But I am no professional so I cannot tell. lol
Jenea Clarke That's awesome. My chaco is a very hungry girl so generally her first instinct is that anything touching her is food.
My brother had the Mexican red knee. It was like a dog. Loved my brother! He literally walked around with him on his shoulder or in his hair!
Awwww :)
Never heard of spider acting like that before. That's adorable!
Im pretty sure spiders don't have feelings
@@stewybrooks I'm aware of that. But you had to see it to believe it.
good story, but just so everyone knows, if a terrestrial tarantula falls from even waist high they can easily die from a bursted abdomen...........need to be extremely careful
Its awesome how you still reply to newer comments on this 2 year old video, Im finally getting a Tarantula after many years of waiting Chaco Golden Knee will be getting it next week!
Thanks, JimiJimo! I LOVE that species! I'm actually working on a comprehensive husbandry video for the Chaco right now. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders Can't wait for that video! do you have any tips on taking care of a 1 month old spiderling? its my first tarantula and I dont wanna mess it up!
I responded to this, but it's not here! Ugh. Did it come through on your end?
@@TomsBigSpiders Hahaha you did? thought you just hearted my reply and liked alas it has not friend! what did you send?
@@VideoGameFX Yeah, I wrote out a whole thing about the tiny slings. This is the second one of these I found today. UGH. One second...I'll just cut and past it from the article...
I would also recommend an A. Geniculata. As a beginner I wouldn't think of handling a tarantula, but of how to actually take care of it, and these species can teach you that very easily. They eat all the time, as if they had been starving for months (even though they may have eaten just a week ago), it's a lot of fun to watch them hunt their prey. Mine would sometimes take the roach right off the tongs, I wouldn't even manage to drop it or think of anything at all. Also many beginners tend to overmoist the enclosure, worrying about leaving it too dry - and from what I have seen, Geniculatas can forgive that. Mine chills near the water dish right in the open, and it's still small (L7) but I've seen it drink from water dish a few times, even though the substrate was not so dry. And since they tend to stay out in the open - makes a perfect spider to observe and show off. It's very, very active - mine would change the "architecture" quite often, carrying substrate all around. And now, after she hasn't eaten a few times, she went to her hide (first time since I got her!) and closed off the entrance-yep, she hasn't eaten cause she's going to molt, all right. I love how easy it is to take care of her. Regarding temperament - they do kick hairs, but only when disturbed. She doesn't do anything if I add water in the water dish or something, but once I tried to make her go away from water dish to take it and wash it - and she was like "Nope, not going anywhere, YOU go away". Definitely include it in the next list! =)
Hello, Olga! I left this one off initially because for every person that seemed to do fine with it as a beginner, there were others that were intimidated by it, However, check out the new list if you get a chance: th-cam.com/video/MKMHuyExcc0/w-d-xo.html :)
@@TomsBigSpiders Thank you!Ok, I forgive you =D
Will you make a dedicated husbandry video for these species? I haven't seen one on the channel. That would be amazing.
great video and awesome subtitles for people like me that need to see it and also hear it.
Thanks so much Hector! Yeah, I figured that I should probably add some text, as I was talking VERY fast. I just didn't want to video to turn out too long and boring. :)
Doing research before I adopt my first tarantula. This was very helpful! Thank you!
Hello, Heather! Welcome to the hobby. I'm glad that this was helpful. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders I just found your other video with the 13 top beginner species! On info overload right now. I found some T. Violacius slings for sale, and they are so beautiful as adults-I’m unsure if they would be okay for a beginner because of their speed. Do you have any videos regarding the purple tree spiders?
Chilean rose hairs are highly under rated. The one I had had a great disposition. only ever kicked hairs once at me as a very small sling. Mine was fairly active and did web up her enclosure a fair amount. She did go off food but only in the winter months.
I love them myself, Chris...and my first was a G. rosea that I had for 23 years.
I just got my first tarantula, a Mexican red rump, for the holidays. She's just a baby, but she is already eating like crazy. I was so happy to see that she made the list :~)
Congrats! Yeah, they are a wonderful species. I actually just got my female last year!
Great list! I own 2 A. chalcodes. One is a hair kicker every time I deal with the box, the other hasn't thrown a single hair or threat pose. Very touch or go species!
I agree completely! I have one that is nuts and one that is very calm. :)
Just got my first tarantula, a 1.25" gbb sling. I love watching him (gender unknown, using he) walk around on his webs. He has a great appetite too! I already want 5 more haha.
Hi, Kaity! Congratulations! I LOVE that species (I have two adult females that I got as slings). They are awesome eaters. Be careful...one quickly turns into 100. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders it's already happening! I've ordered 4 more- g.pulchra and g. Pulchripes, a curlyhaired, and an l. parahybana 😂
I absolutely LOVE my G. Porteri
She is so gentle and absolutely gorgeous. Her contrasting hairs and rose colors cephalothorax are gorgeous. idk if I just have a really nice specimen or what, but i'm 99% sure she was wild caught as a nearly adult. I got her as my first nearly a decade ago.
One of the best t vids iv'e seen and i've seen hundreds,You should have way more subs
Thanks so much for that! :) I really appreciate it. :)
I have a few beginner species and bot do I love them, very docile but also unpredictable. Great video. New sub!
Thanks so much, Wicked Tarantulas.
What a great comprehensive video
Thank you so much, Tanner! :)
Even though it wasn't my first, I'd consider any of the Lasiodoras as a good first one, if you aren't interested in handling.
My L Klugi is wonderful, eats like a horse unless in premolt. Her growth rate is very impressive. In fact, she just molted 2 days ago and is stunning. The colors seem to get brighter each time. Even though you can't handle her in any way shape or form, she's usually pretty even tempered, no problems with bolting or aggression.
I've found with mine that tong feeding may not be a good idea because she attacked the time and almost ran up them. Simply drop the feeder in front of or just beside the spider.
I keep mine with a full water dish at all times. I raise the humidity when in premolt and keep the enclosure at 80 degrees. Of course, any heat sources should be located at a minimum of 8 inches away. If the roof of the enclosure is warmer then your forehead, it's too hot!!
I use a variable voltage switch and a heat lamp. It should be noted that heat is not strictly speaking necessary, but improves activity level and growth rate.
I obtained mine on August 11 and she was only slightly larger then a wolf spider. At the end of December 5.5 months later, she's about 3x the size she was when I got her.
Thank you! This video was very informative and helpful. Tarantulas are on my list and I want to learn more. This video helped a lot- still haven't decided which to get though! :)
Thanks so much, Marisa! Get them all! hahaha. Honestly, you can't go wrong with any on the list. :)
I hear a lot of TH-camrs say things like "you can usually find slings for $5 or $10", but everywhere I've been online charge $30-60 per sling.
Back when this was published, you could find them for that cheap. In the states, many are now more expensive because we don't do enough breeding here and have to import our slings from Europe. Also, prices can differ from country to country.
Did anyone else notice the golden knee had a leg just detached on the ground
It was a leg from an old molt. :)
Can tell you love spiders. Love your enthusiasm and passion makes it a lot easier to learn and them
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. :)
i lost my avic avic to not reading enough basic husbandry haven't had a t since. I loved that T thanks for the tip about the humidity.
Awwwww...so sorry to hear that! There is a TON of misinformation out there on Avicularia unfortunately. You're most welcome! :)
Aphonopelma hentzi, I think you would have to grab the spider's fang and literally drive into your skin to get a bite from one of these and they have a typical dry terrestrial setup. The only downside is they truly are just a brown spider. For a beginner arboreal species I recommend the Avicularia minatrix, they tend to be calmer than the other Avicular sp. and they like it completely dry with just a weekly lite spraying. Not to mention the fact that they are pink and keep the juvenile abdomen pattern.
Great additions to the list! Thanks! :) My hentzi are still too small to assess their temperaments, but I'll look forward to growing them up. :)
Mexican Redknee is the Brachypelma hamorii, Mexican Giant Orange Knee is the Brachypelma smithi
The hobby correction of hamorii was made after this video was put out. Thanks!
my first T is a 1/4 inch brachypelma vagans. shes too small to interact with at all so i appreciate the video to help with my next purchase. im thinking of getting a smithi
Hello! B. vagans are an awesome species. They grow pretty fast for a beginner species, so she'll put on some size for you soon. :)
B. smithi are fantastic. :)
Great video! I got my first B. albo sling a month and a half ago and she (hopefully she!) just molted! Put on over 1/2" with one molt. I'm going to an expo this Sunday and am definitely going to come home with a few more T's (hopefully at least one adult). Your blog and the arachnoboards have been extremely helpful, so thank you! Also: hahaha is that leg in the G. pulchripes enclosure part of an old molt?
Really enjoyed these, just recently got a curly hair and orange knee (might be a red knee?)
That's awesome, Roland...congrats!
did I miss you doing the A hentzi? They're amazing! my first, which cured my arachnophobia was the hentzi. they're slow, will just walk into your hand, would prefer to run and hide than to kick hairs or throw a threat pose (but will if prevoked enough). Only downside is they will go into winter fasting and can take forever to moult! mine was in premolt when I got her in the summer last year, fasted through the winter, at one meal in the spring and finally molted this month! that was atleast 10months waiting for her to molt! when I saw premolt she was showing the early signs of reduced eating, looking puffy searching for a spot to make her molt bed (digging random places). as she got closer in the spring she started to web her live prey to save for later when she use to just ignore it if she wasn't hungry. but aside from these (what i call little things), they make a great first time T! especially if you live in the south.
Nope, you didn't miss it! Although they can be great beginners, they aren't readily available in some countries, and they tend to get overlooked for A. chalcodes in the US. That said, there are many other species that will make good beginners that didn't make this list. That's one of the reasons the top ten lists are a bit silly. :) Thanks for chiming in!
if you go to The Container Store they have some of the best containers for tarantulas
I've picked up a few from there over the years. :)
I love arachnids but I live in a cold climate... I wanted a tarantula when I was little but idk I could keep one in Massachusetts, I'd worry about it's health in the winter :(
Hello, Lee! I live in Connecticut and I keep them. How cold does your home get in the winter? The majority of the species do just fine at room temp.
Great video for any newcomers to the hobby. I agree with A Geniculata being added. I also really love my T Lagunas.
Thanks, bud! I'll be doing an intermediate list at some point, and I'll be adding the genic. I just think that a beginner T should be accessible to everyone, and the genic are just a bit much for some. :) Phormictopus cancerides is another one I really thought about including as an alternative to the LP, but I'm saving it.
Ok I'd say if you can get a Geniculata then go for it but as you say it could fall into the next category. I agree with you re Phormictopus as I have two and they have been great, although my Atrichomatus really likes to go walkabout. I'd also say my Pamphoboteus Machalla has been pretty straightforward but again another one that falls into the next category.
It's easy when you have the experience to perhaps forget what's it's like when you first started so I think your orig list spot on but there's a few that depending on the person could be a beginner species.
People tend to react strongly if you said go for an OBT right at the start. I wouldnt actually tell a confident person who has done the research no because as slings it's just the speed that's the issue.
One might even say any spiderling Tarantula is a good beginner T but then we need to have an easy list to start with and add categories as a fail safe. (if you catch my drift. I.e we need the distinctions to keep things as safe as possible for all levels).
Personnally after watching vids from yourself, Tarantulaguy1976, Jon3800, and Deadly T girl I feld pretty confident to buy any Spiderling but thats because of the research and my own personal level of calmness. (although I must say a yr in and I just had my first real nightmare with my H Mac so it's def a hobby you have to be on the ball! I found it on my bed's leg, you dont know the relief, I think I also had my first dose of Tarantula hairs on the back of the throat).
Hi tom me again. First just wanted to say thank you for all the help and info you have given me getting into the hobby! Second I wanted to ask about temperatures for my h pulchripes. I know you say repeatedly if you are comfy the spider is comfy keep them at room temp. But to me comfortable is 59-68F and infact I have been kicking my heat on (which I normally never do) to get my place up to the 70s after I got my little baboon. But for me 70s may as well be a sauna. (I live at 9000ft in the Colorado Rockies and am very used to colder temps). I listened to your most recent podcast where you mentioned your spider room is at about 78. Is it ok to keep this species at lower temps where I am comfortable or do I need to bite that bullet and bump up my temps to keep the spider happy and healthy
Hello, BadJackalope! Thank you so much!
It's funny, because my room temperature is actually quite cool as well. It's why I started putting a range on some of my newer videos. The first two years I was keeping, the temps in the tarantula room were 68-70 in the winter, and they sometimes dropped to 65. They did just fine in these temps. Have you tried putting them on a higher shelf? You can sometimes pick up a few degrees that way if you want to keep the overall temps lower.
What is the lowest you could deal with?
Great video as always man thank you!
Thanks so much, Sean! :)
Great video, watching from GB 🇬🇧 I'm 16 currently and trying to find a weekend job, as soon as I do I'm 100% trying to get a tarantula, I don't know if you can get most of these species in the UK but I'm going to research, but 1 big problem is is that my mum probably won't let me get one(my whole families afraid of spiders) I am afraid of spiders also(the smaller they are the more scared I am of them) I don't know why but I'm 100% fine with tarantulas. I somehow convinced my mum to allow me to get a corn snake, any tips on convincing my mum on letting me get a sling? And I know I said I'm scared of smaller spiders and slings are small but they're going to be in a tub and not next to my head at night 😂
Thanks so much! You should be able to find most of these species in the UK. I believe the majority of them are available over there. I wasn't allowed to get a tarantula until I moved out of my parents' house. I would keep talking about tarantulas with her, sharing some of the things you find out as you research. If you can, try to get her to watch some videos talking about them and their care. The trick is to approach it not like you're trying to convince her, but more that you are trying to share some of the fascinating information you're finding out about them. A lot of folks are apprehensive at first, but they soon become interested. Good luck!
the spider in the blue container had a random spider leg laying there. I couldn't be the only one who seen that. plz correct me if I'm wrong bc I'm actually curious
It's the leg from an old molt. :)
I’ve heard that if they throw they’re hair at you it itches.
That's true! New World species (ones from the Americas and surrounding island) can kick urticating (irritating) hairs from their abdomens as a defense against predators.
Great beginners list, Tom. I agree with everything you said !
Thank you, Sabrina! :)
Awesome video Tom! This is why your channel is always my 'go to' channel for information. Hope to see more in 2017!
Awwww...thanks so much Vanessa! You can count on it. :)
Hi Tom. Big fan! I love your podcast! I have had tarantulas for a long time now, new world and old world. But I want to try breeding. What type would you say is a good starter tarantula to breed for the first time? Best wishes from Norway!
Hello! First off, thank you so much...I truly appreciate your very kind words. :)
The trick is to choose a species that is easy to breed AND that people will want slings from. Personally, I started with the Hapalopus sp. Colombia large, and that one worked out great for me. What species do you have? I could tell you which ones I would start with. :)
This is what I currently have: Aphonopelma seemanni
Avicularia avicularia
brachypelma auratum
davus pentaloris
Monocentropus Balfouri(slings)
orphnaecus sp blue panay
Poecilotheria tigrinawesseli
poecilotheria fasciata
phormingochilus sp. rufus(slings)
Cyriopagopus lividus
Lasiodora parahybana
Pamphobeteus sp. Tigris
Pamphobeteus sp. Machalla
Haplopelma albostria
Grammostola pulchripes(sling) thank you so much for responding! Not many people like you out there!
I get you talking about fasting... my 1st T salmon pink just did about 14 months no eating. I thought he was going to die
Sorry for the delay, Scott...I missed a bunch of comments! Man, that's a long fast for an LP!
I really wanna get over my fear of spiders !! Specially larger types . surprisingly I’m fascinated by tarantulas ! And love the idea of owning one to help me appreciate them more and help with my fear of spiders in general .. I own a snake and lizard both of whom I used to be terrified of now I LOVE them and can even let them chill around my neck or shoulder.. now I wanna get into Tarantulas and I really hope I get the same results I did with snakes and lizards
Hell I was even scared of cats at one point up until I finally had one come in and change my life !!!now I adore all cats
I got my first tarantula in the '90s partially to get over my fear of them. I totally get it. I don't like having an irrational fear of an animal. It took years, but they no longer scare me! :)
Hey man! Just added a 1 in B. Hamorii (female hopefully) to my collection today. Now I've got a work T (Vagans) and a home T :) Thanks again for all you do! \[T]/
Congratulations, Joseph! That's a wonderful species! :) Thanks!!!
Tom Moran the woman I got her from just pulled an egg sac from her Brazilian Wandering Spider pair. Is that a spider you would consider getting or is the potential danger too much when considering your family/pets?
Oh, man...that's awesome! For the time being, that one is not in the cards for me. That would just be too much of a risk with the family. Sigh...maybe some day. haha
I have a Curly, he was my first, had him a little over a year now, great beginner species, I have four T's now lol my second was a Euathlus green, also had him just about a year now, good spider though mine isn't able to be handled, I don't handle mine anyways. Third was a GBB, she was young and totally insane when I got her, still a little flighty but she's calmed considerably, plus she's gorgeous!
I love that species. I still need to get a Euathlus green. How is your's temperament? I've heard they can be a bit more skittish than the reds. My GBBs are two of the more skittish Ts I keep, and they are not afraid to kick some hairs. :)
Tom Moran My Green is totally chill most days but he has his moments where he freaks out and bolts and I swear he teleports he's so quick, it's a bit startling lol he's also a hibernator, I haven't seen him since early December.
i got a B.Vagans 1 week ago as my first tarantula she is doing great and has a legspan of about 2 inches :D
Congratulations! :) Mine is about 4.5" now, and she's getting ready to molt again. :)
I was wondering where you got your acrylic enclosures with the hinged, latching tops. I'm considering getting a tarantula but I dont want to have to modify a screen top of a glass enclosure.
Those are likely the Jamie's Tarantulas enclosures.
@@TomsBigSpiders Thank you so much!
Very curious and would like to understand more, you say you aren't personally a handler in the hobby and try not to promote it. Could you elaborate a little on that? Would like to own a spider of my own but I'm looking to learn as much as possible before hand.
No problem! When I first got into the hobby years ago, I was under the impression that handling was expected and part of the hobby. I now realize that's not the case, and many hobbyists choose not to hold or handle their spiders. Instead, they treat them as you would exotic fish (a pet man people keep and no one handles). The fact is, they don't get anything out of handling; they are not "cuddly" creatures that need physical attention. Some will tolerate it more than others, but it's not needed for them to thrive. Handling in many cases can put the spider and the keeper at unnecessary risk. The keeper can be exposed to getting haired (some kick irritating hairs when they are startled) or a bite. The tarantula can also be at risk from a fall or from getting flung if it bites a keeper. Also, many of us keep Old World species of tarantulas that are usually quite defensive and have powerful venom that can really put a hurting on you. For these guys, you don't want your hands anywhere near them. It's best to practice good habits by keeping your hands away from them.
That said, I know many folks in the hobby who handle, and I've handled in the past. I'm not one of those people that gets bent out of shape when I hear about it (many hobbyists are dead set against the practice). I just think folks should be properly informed before they make the decision for themselves.
Here's an article I wrote about it that explains it all better. tomsbigspiders.com/2014/11/26/handling-tarantulas-some-things-to-consider/
I hope that helps!
Tom Moran that was amazingly well put and I look forward to giving your article a read! Thanks a ton!
You're most welcome! :)
Fantastic video, thank you for the information. Very new, and maybe looking to get into this. (I do have a question > I'm looking for one not big, I'm not going to hold it or play with it, one i don't have to clean up after mych or often, no humidity. Is their one you can think of?
Thanks so much! If you're not going to handle, I would check out a Salmon birdeater (Lasiodora Parahybana) or even a Phormictopus Cancerides. Bothe get quite large, eat great, and grow quite fast.
Tom Moran nice thank you for all your fantastic information!
Wow man I have a spiderling still of a Mexican red knee and I went to a reptile show and said I want a big spider and got the Goliath bird eater just like u said that crazy how you know
Hi, Sergio! Congrat on your bird eater. :)
I have a baby Brazilian Black! I also have a Red Knee, a Pinktoe... and I just got a Gooty Sapphire! :D
Congrats on your Gooty! :)
I have a psycho B.albopillosum. They can have individual personalities.
Yup, they sure can. Temperament can vary from specimen to specimen.
Hi Tom, I have been watching your videos for a while now and I really enjoy them - I don't own any tarantulas at the moment but I have been thinking about getting one for a while as they are fascinating animals. I really want to get a euathlus sp red purely because of there sweet nature and I do think they are kind of cute lol and possibly the curly hair.
Thank you for the kind words. Those Euathlus are just SO cute. You could see how friendly mine is. I find myself accidentally handling her quite a bit. haha. The curly hairs are also amazing..very calm as well. :)
Wow Pink Zebra Beauty probably the first tarantula i own 😀
They are awesome little spiders, Dennis.
Hey Tom. I am really wanting a Chillian Flame. Where is a good place to find one? I looked on Fear Not. But didn't see any. Also Update on my Avic. She is doing Awesome.
Hi, Karson! Man, I can't find them anywhere. Folks had slings a while back, but everyone seems to be out of them now. So glad to hear that your Avic is doing well!
I think i'm gonna get a brazillian black, Thanks Tom
Awesome species to start with! :)
Where would I be able to find a Chilean flame? We’re looking at getting our first spider and we really liked it. We have everything we need, now we just need to find a place. However we don’t live close to any local places...anywhere you would recommend online or that we could call etc?
I live in a state where you can't buy tarantulas in pet stores or expos, so I buy all of mine online. Some place you can check out are Fear Not Tarantulas, Jamie's Tarantulas, Net-bug, Palp Friction, Swift's Inverts, and Pinchers & Pokies.
Thanks for the response! So I had a question that you may have been asked before. Honestly two questions..When looking at cages etc. we ended up using glass to be able to heat it, however for future reference, how would you go about heating a silicone, acrylic or plastic enclosure with these guys? I am in Whidbey Island Washington and it gets very cold here in the winter so the spider is for sure going to need some heating...you cant use UHT's with any of those enclosures..so what solutions are out there for that? I plan on having more spiders and don't have the luxury of shelling out money for glass aquariums and terrariums for these guys so I am going to need to find a way to keep them warm in the winter and obviously the acrylic and plastic enclosures are a lot more economic price wise.
Last question...what spider would you recommend out of these as a first spider,
Honduran Curly hair, Chilean Rose hair, Chilean Flame, Mexican Red Knee, Mexican Fire leg, Brazilian Black, or the Zebra?
I know that is a lot of questions in a comment, I have been doing research but there are sooooo many opinions and conflicting information. Thanks!
After doing some research I have been leaning more towards getting the curly hair.
what about the pink toe!????? They're always so friendly and beautiful! Fun to watch grow as well, as the go from pink with black toes, to black with pink toes! :)
never mind to mentioned it, you just don't have it yet. :) lovely
I'm thinking about going back into the tarantula trade I love the Mexican redknees Brazilian blacks and Chaco golden knee should I trust getting some shipped from the states as I live in Canada or should I try to find adults here ? cheers
Great species, all three of them! You have some good tarantula vendors in Canada that you could check out:
www.arachnophiliacs.com/
tarantulacanada.ca/news.php
Dillon Jardine I wouldn't try to ship from the states, idk if u can. Ik Arachnopilliacs and Tangled In Webs has some adults tho
I don't know if you'll reply to this but I was wondering if you could help me decide. I am really interested in the Brazilian black or the red knee as a beginner. However I am just not sure which one would be best in terms of getting a sling versus an adult.
Of course I'll reply! :) Both of these species make excellent first tarantulas. If you get a sling of either species, expect it to be very slow growing. It will be quite a few years before you have a beefy tarantula on your hands. Personally, I would look for something juvenile-sized (1.5-2.5" or so) that's well started and past the very slow growth rates of small slings. This would give you something that's a little more durable while still allowing you to watch the spider grow up. Does that help?
Yes it helps, thanks but now after doing so much research I am really set on the Avicularia Versicolor species. the main thing I'm worried about since I'm getting a sling is how often I should feed the sling and how often I should drop water/ mist it? I'm getting one from Jamie's Tarantulas along with her spiderling aboreal enclosure kit.
Will that be your first tarantula? Just be aware that versi slings are bit less resistant to husbandry mistakes. The feeding schedule is up to you. Some folks like to feed them once a week. I want my slings (espcially the A. versicolor) to outgrow that fragile sling stage faster, so I feed them 2-3 times a week. As for misting, twice a week works for most.
After realizing I wanted my first to be as least stressful as possible I went ahead and bought a Brazillian Black from a local store where I live. Its 1 1/2 inches so its not quite a sling now I'd say. I like the temperment and black color they get. Already ate 2 pinhead crickets haha
Was wondering where you purchased your enclosures? Or did you make them yourself?
Any preffered place to buy online from or do you sale any,I'm looking at different places but am having a hard time choosing
Hi, JD! Fear Not Tarantulas, Jamie's Tarantulas, Ken the Bug Guy, Swift's Invertebrates, and Pinchers and Pokies are all great places to start.
@@TomsBigSpiders thank you very much, funding a place to buy from,has been a struggle
This is a great informative video. Thanks for this.
Thanks so much! And you're most welcome! :)
That little Chilean Red is adorable.
Isn't she just a sweetheart? :)
my favorite beginner species is the Honduran Curly Hair.. I love her.. her names Alma
They are fantastic tarantulas all around! :) I love that name!
Would you suggest i go to a breeder to get me baby or somewhere else....Im still trying to figure out everything out to getting started with this
Hello, Alexander! I order most of mine from dealers online. You can check out Fear Not Tarantulas, Pinchers and Pokies, Jamie's Tarantulas, and Swift's Inverts to start!
Where/how did you buy/build the terrarium for taratulas #7 and #8?!
Jamie's Tarantulas! :) jamiestarantulas.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=20220/
How about the avicularia versicolour
They CAN be a good starter species, although there is a lot of bad care info out there for them (which leads to some death). I would encourage folks who start with this species to start with a larger specimen and not a sling.
Hello Tom I was wondering where I could find females that aren't so pricy online.
Hi, Jose! Which species are you looking for? Females are in demand for breeding purposes and because they generally live more. Sexed specimens usually command much higher prices. And, in the case of larger females, they cost even more. Let me know which species you're looking for and I'll try to get you some leads.
Wheres a good place to buy either slings or full grown spiders?
If you're in the US, try Fear Not Tarantulas, Jamie's Tarantulas, Swift's Invertebrates, Ken the Bug Guy, or Pinchers and Pokies.
Great video have my 4 inch curly hair coming in a few days :)
Thanks so much! Let me know when it arrives. :)
Can you tell me how often and how you clean the housing? Also what Tarantula are best for vertical housing ?
For dry species, I spot clean and do a full cleaning once a year or so (sometimes less). Vertical housing is appropriate for arboreal species. Arboreal beginner species include Avicularia avicularia (pinktoe) and Caribena versicolor.
I really want to overcome my fear of severe arachnophobia, are tarantulas a good way to go? I'd like a docile one, I'd think a tarantula would be good because it's big and very visible, the smaller ones that run fast as hell and lose sight of are the ones that scare me!
I think that they are. I got my first years ago in part to get over my fear. It took a while, but I'm completely over it now! :)
how long will it take for a salmon pink birdeator to fully mature?
It depends on a how often its fed and the temperatures it's kept at. One kept warmer and fed more often would likely mature in 3-5 years or so. I have one that's 5" now that I bought in 2013 as a .75" sling. She's been kept in the 70s in the winter and mid-70s to 80 in the summer and feed weekly once she hit about 3" or so. So, it really varies.
I have a question sir tom. Im a filipino fun to your channel.
My question is the tarantula is need a papers like any animals.?
But i cannot afford that because im a poor man here in the philippines.
Hello, Jensid! I've spoken to other hobbyists in the Philippines, and apparently, you are supposed to have papers to keep them legally. However, apparently there is a huge illegal trade there, which is why so many people have them (and why some TH-camrs from there don't show their faces).
Is 65 humidity for a link tied tarantula?
I wouldn't worry about humidity with any of these. Just include a water dish.
what website/store would be the best to buy a honduran curly hair? I want to get a tarantula and its my first time looking for one!
Hi, Chrystal! I would check out Fear Not Tarantulas or Jamie's Tarantulas. Swifts Invertebrates and Palp Friction also have good reputations.
Awesome! Thank you so much!
8:59 in the top left-hand corner is a leg is that an actual leg
Hi, Kelly. That's a leg from an old molt. The molts sometimes get torn up. The spider has all of its legs.
Thank you
Which should i get as a very first tarantula ive owned various reptiles and scorpion, im not sure between no.1 or no.5 or the Chilean rose hair
Honestly, you can't go wrong with either one. Which one appeals to you, more?
@@TomsBigSpiders the Honduran lools cute as he has curly hair and ive also curly hair but ive held Chilean rose hairs before thats why im not too sure
im scared to have one but i really want one im scared that it can got away wondering around the house im not scared of being bitten or something any suggestion
Which species were you thinking of getting? Most of the ones on this list are not "runners", meaning rehousings aren't that bad at all. If you get a nice, secure enclosure, they shouldn't be able to escape either.
Curly hairs would be ur choice they are slow good eaters very very docile there amazing
I fell in love with rosies working at Petco a few years back and now I can't find them anywhere due to the ban... do you have any recommendations where I can find one? I finally convinced my husband that they aren't scary and I'm heartbroken that I can't find them anywhere. I live in Southern California.
I love that species, although it's fallen out of favor with many hobbyists (they find them "boring"...ugh). Are you looking for an adult or a sling?
I'm ok with boring! Lol
Probably an adult. :)
I’ve even searching for a sp red but can’t find any, does anyone know where I can find some that are readily available and grown?
Hello, Jaxton! The only place that seems to have them right now is Net-bug. She has slings available.
Tom Moran thanks! I’ll definitely check them out and research sling care. I appreciate the help!
My pleasure? Have you seen my sling care videos?
I've been thinking of getting one to overcome my fear of spiders and to have something to show off to friends , I called a exotic pet store and they only had pink toes and they were from 40 to 100 bucks which i dont have to spend at the moment.
Idk where to start and don't really know if I should start with a pink toe or something of tbe sort
The spider was missing a leg. Is that normal?. Please let me know. Great video
It's a leg from an old molt. The spider has all of its legs. :)
My Gbb dont kick hairs at all i got it went it was a sling
Hello! Yeah, temperament from specimen to specimen will vary. One of mine is VERY kicky right now; the other has calmed down again.
So I'm bout to get my first one and I'm Soo excited 😁😁...but I didn't hear or just overheard....how are Mexican Red knee...they are pretty and I heard they are good as well with begginers and temperament is good to
That's so awesome! It was at the 7 minute mark. Here's a link: th-cam.com/video/j77bBFCOW30/w-d-xo.html
Yes, it's an awesome beginner!
Thanks for the reply...I wish I had some one knowledgeable like you to talk to over hear...cause I have Soo many questions but nobody wants to help me Soo I'm left on my own
@@TomsBigSpiders I wish could ask you more questions but I don't want to be a bother
@@marcusmassey6654 Well, Marcus...if there is anything that I can help you with, just ask. Just start a new comment, as I tend to lose them after I answer them the first time!
@@TomsBigSpiders so the Mexican Red knee is unavailable and the fireleg is available I would like to go to a breeder but I know I'm going to pay alot...I just don't know what to do....but I really want one...my love for reptiles have grown for some time now
I thinking getting a brachypelma klaasi what you think?
As a beginner I'd like to start with the Mexican Red Knee tarantula! But I personally LOVE the Versicolour! Your presentation is AWESOME, the BEST I've seen by far THANK YOU!
Thank you so much! The only issue with the versicolors is that they need a bit more babying early on, and mortality rates for slings seem to be a bit higher than with other species.
To anybody with arachnophobia!! I grew up with the WORST fear of spiders. I remember passing out when i’d see Daddy Long Legs (or however they’re called). I went to a reptile expo once and held one to try to get rid of my phobia and I actually fell in love! I’ve had my pink toe for a year now and they’re super chill animals! Would definitely recommend if you’re trying to fight a phobia😁
I started off an arachnophobe. Being around them really does help. I have no fear of spiders anymore. :)
I just got my Arizona Blond 2 days ago. She so sassy, and i love her. Had to wait 18yr to get one. Just cause she so sassy i don't think I'll ever try an Handle her, but i don't see a reason to. She's not a dog. ^////^ she is so cute though!!! Ate as soon as i put food in on day one catching all the crikets in like 5mins. [She so much faster than i thought they were!!]
Congrats! Yeah, I don't handle mine, either. My blonde is a bit of a brat. :)
Tom: Beginners will freak when they fast
Me: Laughs in Ball Python owner
Hahaha I was fortunately in that my ball pythons all ate well.
even though you say "slow" or "pet rock", we got our first T's this Oct. rose flame, curly hair, versicolor, and Golden knee. not planning on handeling much. but living art and loved. wish us luck lol
Some GREAT species you have there! :) I have four of the Golden knees...love those pretty little buggers. :) Congrats!
I don't plan on getting a tarantula but I still enjoyed.
Thank you so much! That means a lot. :)
You really should!! I'm in my 50s and got my first T (Rose Hair) in my late 40s. They are the best roommate you could ever have. The best advice I can give you- if you have cats, please have a lock on the cage. My fluffy tailed demon has moved the screen top 1/4 inch open (old type of container with no lock). I found Hairyette hiding behind my hand towel at the sink 25ft away. I took a pic before the rescue. The same fluffy butt showed me where she was. The first time it happened I walked in to Hairy in threat posture on the carpet and my 2 cats sitting around looking like "wth are you and why are you out?". I have had her close to 10 yrs and only 2 escapes. I need to get a newer living quarters to prevent it but for now I have a strip of tape across it.
Great video Tom! Very informative for people new to the hobby.
Thanks so much!
After reading your article and watching this video I picked up my first tarantulas ever (a Chilean rose, Chilean flame, & 2 Brazilian blacks). Im absolutely terrified of insects & spiders, but for some reason Im not scared of tarantulas. You do such an amazing job explaining your tarantulas especially their temperaments and negatives. Thank you so much for getting me into this hobby!!!!!
Congrats, Chloe! You picked up some awesome species there. :) I started out terrified of spiders and tarantulas, and it took me a few years to get completely over it. Thank you so much for your very kind words...that just made my day! :)
Did you in fact say you've had that chilean rose 21 years? Hardy is putting it lightly.
Closer to 24 years now...and she was a young adult when I got her. She is likely over 30. :)
My first tarantula (is my only tarantula, so far): #CaribenaVersicolor. I’ve had her 2.5 years. She’s molted 9 times and she’s puppy-dog tame. 😊 Named her “Fluffy,” and she’s helped me get over my 40+ Year-long arachnophobia.
Awwwww...she sounds absolutely adorable! :)
“He said it was 10 inches. I asked for a pic and no response.” A tale as old as time. 😏
Bahahahaha. Amen, brother!
I don't know why the rosie's get so much hate? I owned two as my first t's and both we easy as hell to take care of. As long as you're not a complete idiot and know what to look for you'll be fine.
I don't know either, DJ. It drives me nuts, quite frankly. A LOT of us started with them . I agree completely.
They are a great species. They are hardy, great eaters, most of the time docile, cheap, look great when fully developed. There is so much information on the boards and youtube as to how to take of T's. It drives me crazy also.
It’s because a lot of people’s Rosie’s are aggressive
@@doenawt9142 mine never bit me even till he had his last breath, Rosie's are amazing
The potential for a highly defensive T is definitely off putting for some. My family had one while I was a kid who was one of these highly defensive "psycho rosies" despite being told they're extremely calm. It died after a bad molt and the temperment definitely put my parents off getting another in the future, especially having kids in the house. If you can get one with a proven docile temperment or you're prepared for the potential for a higjly defensive T then I think they're a great species, but they do have the potential to put people off the hobby forever if we don't properly inform people of the fact this species seems to have a much higher number of defensive specimens than other beginner friendly species.
hi Tom,
My B. albopilosum is completely opposite to what you said about them. Living devil. Attacks everything it can reach. I wouldn't dare to put a finger into her enclosure. It's good evidence that temperaments vary between specimens. My B. vagans is calm opposite to the common belief.
What is your opinion on starting with arboreal species? What is your opinion on having T. ockerti as the first "arboreal" species in someones collection?
Excellent point, and one I've tried to explain to folks with an interest in handling. I have Old Worlds that are completely docile and New World species that would bite you in a heartbeat. It all depends on the temperament of the individual spider. I do think there are species that then to be, in general, more docile than others, but attitudes may vary.
I know plenty of folks that started with arboreals, and most started with either an Avicularia species or Caribena versicolor. The problem with these species isn't the temperament, but the fact that they are a bit less hardy than the terrestrials commonly available. Someone new to the hobby will be learning all the basic facets of tarantula husbandry as they go (how to feed, cleaning, cage setup, temperature, moisture requirements, rehousing, etc), and these species can be a bit less forgiving of husbandry mistakes. I think if a new keeper really does his or her research well beforehand, they can make good beginner species.
As for the other New World arboreals like Psalmopoeus and Tapinauchenius species, those species are a bit too fast and feisty for most new hobbyists to handle.
I think the T. ockerti could be a manageable first tarantula. They are definitely hardy, but they are VERY skittish and prone to kicking hairs. In my experience, a lot of folks just getting into keeping tarantulas are looking for one they can handle, and I definitely wouldn't include the ockerti as one of the generally tractable species.
Thanks for answer.
It's just general opinion on species but every specimen has its own character. I recently came accross some B. albopilosums that tend to be aggresive and also the number of reports of aggresive specimens in my country (Poland) is quite interesting, cause they are considered the most docile species.
My cousin started with T. gigas mature female. His colleague gave him this T as a good begginer species. That's true this genus literally teleports.
My cousin keeps Avis in an interesting enclosure. IT is made of glass with a bottom part of one side wall made of steelwire net (sry don't know proper english word for this) and a top side of opposite side wall made also of this kind of net. It allows for a cross ventilation and he keeps the enclosure itself really moisty. The results is no deaths of Avis including slings for the last 5 years. I think a key to success with Avis is high humidity with good ventilation (as they have in a higher parts of trees in their natural environment) .
That is really interesting about the B. albopilosums. I wonder if the ones you have come from a particular population of them that is more defensive? I know there are already suspected to be three types of B. albos available over here: Honduran, Nicaraguan, and "hobby form" (usually considered to be some type of hybrid). I'm not sure if there have been any temperament differences between the three.
Starting with a T. gigas? Now that's impressive!
Yeah, the general consensus with the Avics now is that ventilation is incredibly important. Over here, most folks now keep them dry with a water dish and good cross ventilation once they are out of the sling stage. Some keep the slings moist, others dry with a dish. That cage design sounds very cool!
The problem with Brachypelmas in Europe is that they are in fact mostly hybrids. I have read somewhere that is is really easy to crossbreed albopilosum and vagans. Maybe it's "vagans gene"? It's still considered the most docile species .
The key to start with T. gigas was that he didn't know, what he holds into his enclosure. :D The spider itself was quite calm but really fast.
Yeah the idea is to recreate its natural conditions into tree tops (high humidity + a lot of fresh air).
I actually have what I suspect to be an albo/vagan cross. They call this the "hobby form" in the States, as it pops up quite a bit and is usually sold as a B. albo. Vagan genes would certainly account for the more high-strung B. albos. Great point.
I still believe that a lot of the species we think NEED high humidity just tolerate it where they come from. Many of the species that were thought to be moisture dependent 10 years ago are now kept dry with no issues. It's interesting to me how well they adapt.
I just wanted to say something about the first trantula that you showed. Brachypelma albopilosum or the curly hair. I've heard people say and I seen him different post that they think that this is not a very attractive trantula. In fact I've had people call it ugly. Really! I just want to point out two things. First I have never seen an ugly tarantula. They are living works of art and they are all beautiful. And second if you've ever seen any of these spiders in person anyone can tell you that they look a whole lot better in person then they do on camera or in pictures. So keep that in mind when you're looking for a new or first tarancula.
Hi, John! Very good points! I find them all, even the "plain brown ones" to be stunning. :)
I used to hold spiders when I was younger. To dumb to realize some could kill. But when I got older I'm pretty freaked about spiders. At the same time I kinda want a pet tarantula. Took me awhile to realize the home invaders are grass spiders harmless to us
I got my first in part because I wanted to get over my fear of spiders. I finally have no issue with them (140+ tarantulas later). haha.
Tom Moran even if I got into it I probably never be that guy with a trapdoor or any other aggressive one lol. I like the Antilles pink toe and Mexican fireleg. Just a matter of talking my wife into letting me have one. That's the problem. Parents wouldn't let me when I lived with them. Wife won't now. But I'm allowed to have a bearded dragon lol
Hey, I don't blame anyone for not wanting one of the feistier ones! There are plenty of amazing species out there that won't give you a heart attack with their attitudes (or send you to the hospital with a bite!). My parents wouldn't let me have snakes or tarantulas (it was my mom basically) so when my wife and I moved out together, I got both. hahaha. I'm VERY lucky that she's into them, too...or at least does a great job pretending like she is. lol
Chris Matney tarantulas cannot kill.
Same when I was younger I would go out looking for snakes, spiders, and amphibians. I’m terrified of spiders but not snakes or anything now. I want a spider tho after watching some videos for a while. May be buying a pink toe.