@@charzemc Mean girls can grow up some day. She's 50+ years old. She's an incorrigible and moronic Critical Theory Marxist. There is not even one Critical Theory trope she won't defend as "truth".
They really think they're harming someone by separating themselves and going to another website as if "making a statement"... People who care about being on social media and want free speech have been waiting for them to do that ever since Jack Dorsey's Twitter..... The problem was there was only 2 main social websites being Twitter and Facebook and both of them were heavily skewed towards leftism and they weren't shy about abolishing any and everything that challenged it, treating half of their users like they're second-class citizens while ironically claiming to champion free discourse lol. These people choosing to go to Blue sky because they're butthurt that they can't be around only people who parrot their own thoughts is a wonderful thing because it means that now everyone has a choice between multiple websites rather than just 2 that only favors the left. Id love to say i hope they stay there but unfortunately i think they're going to slowly crawl back because if there's anything people hate including the left, it's being around dictatorial people who tells them what they can and cant do with themselves in a patronizing and pretentious way, and a leftist bubble is just that. Even leftists eventually get annoyed with it, some distancing themselves and others just straight up moving to another political side. The problem with the ones who ends up distancing themselves from it is they'll come back to where everyone else is to lecture them and demanding they be censored, because the hypocrites don't want others telling them what they can and cant think, they want to be the ones doing it to others, so they'll be back on Twitter picking up where they left off whining about how others should be censored....
She OUTED VOX ! VOX can NOT Bear the SUNSHINE !!! Don't BLARE it , BE Sublime ! Do NOT - TELL the the Hoi Polloi what YOU WANT Them to Believe . DO - MANIPULATE Them ( With a SMILE - ON Your Face and IN a Friendly Manner ) , so that They come TO the CONCLUSIONS of YOUR AGENDA by Themselves !!! DO - BE CRAFTY ! * ! * ! * !!! DUUUHHH !!! ### !!!
False. The notion that all beings are supposed to have a hive mind and be the exact same as each is more psychotic. Reality itself PERMITS EVERYTHING. Humans have no sayin anything, we are not Gods, but we do suffer from God Complexes. Some can have no empathy for humans, but has it for animals for example. Someone could have no empathy but have no interest in harming anything.
@@roberth4395 I know that. I also know that personality disorders overlap. My true gut instinct is he is following an agenda and can be as undigestible as he wants because of the agenda the WEF has put into place, but psychos are attracted to the bright shiny lights of money and power. Also how you read deeper into my comment shows somewhat a superiority complex intellect that a narcissist would adhere to proving some kind of fact procured in your own mind to set the whole internet-based content to be rectified.
@@yipperdeyipTwo wrongs dont make a right lol we are not the judge, the jury and the executioner...we dont have a right to determine who lives or dies. That makes us no better than them..Dont get me wrong its infuriating and they are greedy...trust me I know lol
(5:31) NO! It's NOT "normal to WISH these things on anyone." I know what it's like to be in agonizing pain, unable to move, and declined or refused certain coverage, or referrals to specialist, or procedures. Having to pay for a $400,000. Surgery, and NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT, I do not wish what I experienced and suffered on anyone. I pray for help. I pray that God causes my doctors to be sympathetic, understanding, merciful, gracious. That God puts those things in their heart and being. Being spiteful and revengeful makes it worse, makes them worse. And, God has answered my prayers.
I wonder if Taylor would hold the same views, if the same logic was applied to journalists who may or may not have held back certain information that could have resulted in harm?
Well...I used think UHC was the worst when I did insurance approvals. It was cringe-worthy to hear a pt say they had UHC through their employer. So my believe back then...a few decades ago - was UHC was the worst. I am not saying the CEO deserved to die. However, this frustration with insurance has been long building and I think the medical system has lost its moral compass! That includes the AMA or those who intimidate good doctors and those who suppress medical information in favor of pushing agendas in research that benefit Pharma that pays for the research...it's circular - it's immoral.
But should we really care or bother interfering when the sociopaths are finally consuming each other instead of just us? Take into consideration all the unnecessary and widespread damage and injustices that have been impacted upon nearly every aspect of society; as well as the rampant injuries, illness, and fatalities; directly caused in no small part by these same pharma•bio•med•financiers since 2020? And as they still endlessly loot us, lie to us, withhold truth, and continue to further degrade the overall health and well-being of society... I can't help but think, "at least these loons aren't razing cities and creating autonomous riotzones.. but it is too bad that it wasn't somebody much worse and much higher up the ladder."
No, it was long ago corrupt. Obama made it worse. The real problem is the marriage of Big Pharma, Big Food, Big Corporate Health/Hospitals, and Big Government. Now, the best thing to do is go private, with a functional cash only Dr and practitioners like chiropractors, etc. I used Crow Health and Function Health with each other. Very happy.
“Let me be clear “, I wasn’t stating what I was actually stating 😅. Please, these people are clowns and they know exactly what they are saying or implying.
"I wasn't stating what I was stating" means she's lying through her teeth. She see's no wrong wirh her behaviour, and is highly manipulative. But she's looking to pick up others wrongs to behave badly.
Alecia, you are giving unhinged people far too much credit! It's exactly because she is crazy that she's capable of such blatant contradictions on Live TV...!!
Defamation? Sure. Instigating murder? No, she did not do that. And being happy about someone being eliminated is protected free speech. I think she is disgusting, but you are allowed to be disgusting (besides any defaming she has done).
Insurance is the reason why healthcare is so unaffordable. They can charge you $2,000.00 for a tylenol because the insurance will pay it. If not for all the insurance, pricing would have to be competitive
Yes that was always the worry with private medical insurance there's no safeguard for collusion between big pharma and big insurance. Why would big insurance want to pay higher prices for medical treatment?? Because they'll just pass the cost onto the client.
I bet the insurance doesn’t pay that price, but you’re told that is the price so you will keep your insurance. The provider would probably charge you $3000 and the insurance company would be charged $10. It’s because the insurance company has clout and you as an individual don’t.
I don't know what the current price is for lidocaine. When my son was a toddler he split his chin on his toy box. The hospital charged $114 to insurance for the whole vial even though they used a smidgen of it's contents. At the time my wife was in dermatology. She knew how much a case of lidocaine was. $85 for 24 vials. It's probably more than that now but that mark-up is insanity.
"Honey I love you but I dont want you to stick that fork in the outlet." Does this mother not love her child? (sorry, I hate the saying you mentioned - not a dig at you personally)
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@@Kalleestoyeah exactly it's just a semantic trick to control a conversation.
@@Kalleesto Hello :) I learned a communication method that uses the conjunction "and" instead of "but". By doing so, your sentence can convey love through protection when stated, "Honey I love you and I don't want you to stick that fork in the outlet." In this way, the child correlates Mom's love with safety while exploring and playing. I learned that from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) interpersonal skills and effective communication. I hope that's interesting and helpful. Thanks for your comment @Kalleesto :)
Lorenz has long been criticized for her journalism ethics. In 2020, she repeatedly publicized the 15-year-old daughter of Trump aide Kellyanne Conway for the teen's outspoken TikTok posts and allegedly reached out directly to the minor without her parents' permission. Lorenz also reported stories on the Depp/Heard trial.
Surgeons have most definitely made people die, but this woman thinks that because of that it's GOOD that they're murdered. One's for accidental reasons such as misdiagnoses and flooded backlogs. The other's psychopathy.
You are pushing the removal of free speech. Congrats you played yourself. Free speech permits saying anything, including hateful or harmful things. You not liking it does not mean your view trumps theirs. EVER.
So if someone is angry, rightly or wrongly, ending someone’s life will highlight someone’s grievance ? What she said might convince lots of people to ignore the law. She’s been extremely irresponsible.
Thank you for talking about this. I'm not shedding a tear for this guy, but I am a little disgusted at the behavior of the usual suspects. And the idea that they are just "joyful" over this man's death because of the Healthcare system.......Bull 💩 Give me a break. These people are celebrating death and violence every other week; or they are bemoaning that someone didn't get killed. And yes, it is the "woke". They were upset the bullet missed Trump They were celebrating October 7th They mocked anti mask and Vax people when they died of covid They cheer and defend criminals while they demonize victims and actual heros They applaud the killing of police officers So it's not that this is an isolated incident of being the death cult that they are; it's just one of those times when dancing on someone's grave is socially acceptable among thier peer group. Disgusting people whose only kindness is performance.
15:01 If you don’t like it, opt out. You don’t NEED health insurance. I’ve lived without it for 3 years. I’m much happier out of the system. I choose my care and no one is telling me it won’t be covered. Crowd Health is amazing.
She's nuts. Jesus I'm retired make less than 60k a year and you can't believe what I have to pay monthly for health insurance. United healthcare which was an option was literally $788 a month. Obviously didn't choose that but I'm paying $600 a month on top of rent and everything else life is hard but my God I would never go after anyone!
What are gabbering about? A lot of murders ,oppression ,horrors ,have been done in the name of religion...Only Jesus is the answer. And he's not a religion.
A little window into that decision to not pay for extra anestisia from a person well aware of how medical billing works. My mother runs a dialysis unit in NY for a non-profit company, and she absolutely hates what the system has been forced to become. Lets say a dialysis treatment costs $500 for the office to cover costs and keep the doors open. If a patient has medicaid or medicare the government will then TELL the company how much they're going to reimburse the hospital for that treatment, lets say $250. Then you have the large insurance companies who do the same thing under the assumption that they cover a lot of patients and will bring the office a lot of work, just like walmart negotiates prices of products under the promise that they will be able to sell so much of that product its worth it for the company to sell with a smaller profit margin. What that practice has done is force medical care companies to then overcharge people with small insurance companies or no insurance at all to make up the costs not paid by the government because their margins were already tight. What the whole thing has created is a massive overbilling crisis to counter the negotiation of prices and the large hospital groups are the worst offenders. Im sure that the large hospital groups have used the anestisia thing as a way to recoup costs and regularly overcharge for it. The thing my mom really hates though is how people who have worked their entire life and have their own insurance cant get all the care they need while undocumented citizens get red carpet treatment through the govt and American citizens pay extra to cover what the goverment wont pay for the care they force companies to give to non citizens. My father was in the ICU for over a month many years ago and the bill was almost half a million dollars. The itemized bill had things like a $500 charge each day for a sponge bath given by a person who did it in 20mins and was only getting paid $20hr to do it. His insurance company got the bill cut down to a lil over $200k but for anyone who didnt have insurance those sponge baths would cost a full $500 and the only negotiation is pay the full price or we ruin your credit with a collections agency. It all comes down to the government having so many people on medicare and medicaid who the tax payers are already paying for only to have to pay even more when they need care because the hospitals cant keep the lights on with the money the government gives them. People say they want socialozed medicine but we pretty much are already there
Instead of getting rid of their CEOs, the best way to prevent Capitalism from being corrupted is antitrust. Promoting competition in business is the based.
TMZ’s Harvey Levin (the man standing) is a former Lawyer. He looks uncomfortable because he IS uncomfortable with Taylor Lorenz’s initial post & her unapologetic reasoning for it.
People forget that if you have a plan paid for by your employer, your employer has negotiated with the insurance company and purchased that plan. I used to work for Prudential and there was a cosmetic company that paid for plastic surgery, face lifts, etc. That company paid top dollar for that plan.
When Taylor says "WE" what she really means is "SHE"🌻I never let anyone make these kind of statements on my behalf without publicly calling them out. A major red flag for me is when someone smiles as they recount or contemplate bad acts, IMO that denotes cruelty and opens a window exposing them for who they really are.
We as a family of 4 pay 1400 a month for health insurance. Only to have to cover half the urgent care bill when I ripped a tendon recently. People want change, we are struggling and our insurance bills are more than our mortgage. Its absolutely insane. Changes need to be made, one way or another. The medical and insurance industry is the most corrupt evil industry in the United States.
I know reality isn't allowing, but it seems like it would be better just to pay the $1400 directly on the hospital bill. Cut out the insurance all together.
@@mylamberfeeties875 while I tend to agree with you, my wife has some medical conditions that we need to have the coverage for in case of an extreme event. We have differences in opinion on the matter but we unfortunately need the coverage. During the birth of our 1st son a few years ago we had some wild complications the led to a huge bill. Although our out of pocket sucks, if we had to cover the entire bill in that case it would have been devastating. Still 1400 a month is absolutely insane to me.
@@deborahrichardson3731 yeah for me that would work, but for my wife it wouldn't. The crazy costs of medical for the birth of the children would have exceeded even the 1400 a month due to complications. Partly due to incompetence of the hospital imo in one case.
She got berated by Piers Morgan on when she was invited on his panel in Uncensored. A clip of this was also shown and discussed on PBD, 2 very prominent podcasts. Allegedly, Taylor Lorenz was also fired by the Washington Post , a couple of months ago, to which she replied that she had resigned.
there's a difference between wanting someone dead and not feeling empathy for someone who died simply cuz you didn't like them. If someone wronged me, i'm not gonna give them empathy, because i am entitled to give it to whoever i feel needs it (i'm talking of - my empathy). If you want me to empathize with you, you must give me a reason to. There's a reason why people feel sad when their favourite actor or singer dies, it's not like they ever had the chance to meet and befriend them in person, but they connected to them through their work in music and film and knowing their not around anymore makes it feel like you lost a family member, cuz their movies and music is a part of your childhood. Conversely, when an actor or singer you don't like passes, then you won't care because you didn't like their movies or music, so you probably avoided watching them and listening to them. Wishing someone dead automatically implies you care if they die or not and therefore "not caring if they die" automatically implies you did not wish them dead.
There should be a better way to register how awful our health care system is. The sad truth is that many, many people have suffered and/or died because of insurance denials. The incentives that insurance executives get to keep these denials going so profits go up is a disgusting model. We need a change here. The only positive thing that came out of that awful event is that it highlights this issue.
Jesus! I just looked at yr subs! Congrats ❤❤❤ Been watching since team pancake and you deserve great success. You have honed yr presentation to rival the greats. Thanks for the laughs and for teaching me so much about how to spot psychos and manipulators. Love frm another patriot in boston ma USA. ❤❤❤
Update: I just check it out and no, this isn’t applicable in this case… Lorenz is WAY worse than any succubus. My apologies to every succubus I would have offended.
CEOs get their marching orders from the Board of Directors who are responsible to shareholders. Factor in lobbyists, huge drug costs, over-billing, Obamacare , etc., and we have a big mess. At least we don’t offer sui. cide as a ‘treatment’ option like Canada does…
Enjoyed the vid JER, You have a clear and lucid style and you speak from an ethical base that is reasonable and sane. This combined with your dry sense of humor make for great vids. Well done.
No lady. You go after the lobbyists and the lawmaker’s. You pass legislation that cuts the insurance company out of medical decisions. Nobody is killing anyone. Psyco.
Important life lesson; Sociopaths have lots of empathy, the better to manipulate others. What they don't have is sympathy. Empathy is recognizing what emotions others are feeling, sympathy is identifying with others feelings.
Correct. Our family’s sociopath has straight up said to people, “Why are you telling me this (their feelings)? I don’t care.” He also told us “Yeah, if my parents died, it would be sad, but its not like I’d be _crushed.”_ He told us this, knowing I’d lost my mother 3 months before (and yes, I was crushed).
Two wrongs don’t make a right as the saying goes. This is the brilliance of free speech. Let’s hear for ourselves who the evil people are & be able to call them out.
The only thing that's ever missing from Taylor Lorenz is the truth lol. She can talk about context and narrative all she wants, but it's just another way of her narcissism to get around defending the validity of what she actually claims
I think that we can all agree that we would rather pay more tax for health care full coverage then to pay for insurance that creates billionaires and are supported by the pharmaceutical industry that wants us to be unhealthy
People like her can't resist the chance to virtue signal, hoping for attention and likes. Its quite wonderful really since they end up exposing themselves and the internet is forever lol
Sorry, Jose, but the CEO does have a personal interest in the denial of health care. the more denials, the more profit, then his check is bigger too. He is personally benefitting by denying care.
I had 3 stitches in the US in a hosp. emerg. 6 months later had 3 stitches in Latin America in a dr. office. $1800 US, sat in a chair and an intern did it. $40 Latin America, laid on a bed, painkiller, antibiotic, biopsy and follow up. It is NOT supply and demand in the usual sense, it's price fixing, monopoly, the rules are written by those with the money. The market is not determining the prices. It's preying on the vulnerable. And when people pay for a service and die when the service is not provided, that is the crime that starts with M. No one should take that job, no matter how much it pays. And at $10 million a year, plus bonuses, if you're real desperate, take that job for a year and spend the rest of your life doing charitable works. A letter writing campaign is not going to bring about the changes that are needed.
So... it's fine for Congressmen to advocate for foreign wars, sending Ukrainian teens to be killed uselessly by Russia, and bombing entire nations. But hating insurance company executives is beyond acceptable? Pretty stupid! Totally hypocritical.
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She's not a journalist she's an activist
She's not an activist, she's a mean girl hiding behind the title of journalist.
@@charzemc she's not a mean girl hiding behind the title of journalist, she is a monster in human skin
All Marxists are sociopaths and psychopaths. Journalist is no longer a relevant "political identity". And I am tired of the entire "identify as" cult.
@@charzemc Mean girls can grow up some day. She's 50+ years old. She's an incorrigible and moronic Critical Theory Marxist. There is not even one Critical Theory trope she won't defend as "truth".
and a psycho
She isn't upset about the thousands who have died....she is smiling and bubbly the entire time she speaks about it.
Exactly, they are simply fodder to her argument.
Correct, awful human being
It's a deep hatred towards millionares and billionares....
@@Lu4ronusWorship Of which SHE is one...
This is what twitter was like before musk levelled the playing field. Now blue sky is their seething pit of hate
They really think they're harming someone by separating themselves and going to another website as if "making a statement"... People who care about being on social media and want free speech have been waiting for them to do that ever since Jack Dorsey's Twitter..... The problem was there was only 2 main social websites being Twitter and Facebook and both of them were heavily skewed towards leftism and they weren't shy about abolishing any and everything that challenged it, treating half of their users like they're second-class citizens while ironically claiming to champion free discourse lol.
These people choosing to go to Blue sky because they're butthurt that they can't be around only people who parrot their own thoughts is a wonderful thing because it means that now everyone has a choice between multiple websites rather than just 2 that only favors the left.
Id love to say i hope they stay there but unfortunately i think they're going to slowly crawl back because if there's anything people hate including the left, it's being around dictatorial people who tells them what they can and cant do with themselves in a patronizing and pretentious way, and a leftist bubble is just that. Even leftists eventually get annoyed with it, some distancing themselves and others just straight up moving to another political side. The problem with the ones who ends up distancing themselves from it is they'll come back to where everyone else is to lecture them and demanding they be censored, because the hypocrites don't want others telling them what they can and cant think, they want to be the ones doing it to others, so they'll be back on Twitter picking up where they left off whining about how others should be censored....
They're doing everyone a favor, they don't have to share space with them being lectured 👍
The way she laughed all the way during all the interview in Piers Morgan gave me the chills!
She loves other people's pain and suffering
VOX fired her after this interview.
Rightfully so. She's abhorrent with an abhorrent take. To be so cavalier about a broad daylight cold blooded murder is just unfathomable.
They're also Marxists but they at least have some PR standards.
Not the first she thinks so privileged nothing can touch her well fired was fired from other places
Good for Vox.
She OUTED VOX ! VOX can NOT Bear the SUNSHINE !!! Don't BLARE it , BE Sublime ! Do NOT - TELL the the Hoi Polloi what YOU WANT Them to Believe . DO - MANIPULATE Them ( With a SMILE - ON Your Face and IN a Friendly Manner ) , so that They come TO the CONCLUSIONS of YOUR AGENDA by Themselves !!! DO - BE CRAFTY ! * ! * ! * !!! DUUUHHH !!! ### !!!
Lack of empathy is a psycho trait.
False. The notion that all beings are supposed to have a hive mind and be the exact same as each is more psychotic. Reality itself PERMITS EVERYTHING. Humans have no sayin anything, we are not Gods, but we do suffer from God Complexes. Some can have no empathy for humans, but has it for animals for example. Someone could have no empathy but have no interest in harming anything.
Then I'm a psycho 😎
United CEO has so much blood on his greedy hands it's insane
your statment is only partially correct. Narcissistic people also lack empathy, so do sociopaths and psychopats and other mentally ill people
@@roberth4395 I know that. I also know that personality disorders overlap. My true gut instinct is he is following an agenda and can be as undigestible as he wants because of the agenda the WEF has put into place, but psychos are attracted to the bright shiny lights of money and power. Also how you read deeper into my comment shows somewhat a superiority complex intellect that a narcissist would adhere to proving some kind of fact procured in your own mind to set the whole internet-based content to be rectified.
@@yipperdeyipTwo wrongs dont make a right lol we are not the judge, the jury and the executioner...we dont have a right to determine who lives or dies. That makes us no better than them..Dont get me wrong its infuriating and they are greedy...trust me I know lol
(5:31) NO! It's NOT "normal to WISH these things on anyone." I know what it's like to be in agonizing pain, unable to move, and declined or refused certain coverage, or referrals to specialist, or procedures. Having to pay for a $400,000. Surgery, and NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT, I do not wish what I experienced and suffered on anyone. I pray for help. I pray that God causes my doctors to be sympathetic, understanding, merciful, gracious. That God puts those things in their heart and being. Being spiteful and revengeful makes it worse, makes them worse. And, God has answered my prayers.
Well, you are a better person than Taylor. 😁
People like you are the reason evil wins
Beautiful statement
@@Winter-Lake People like you is the reason evil wins
I wonder if Taylor would hold the same views, if the same logic was applied to journalists who may or may not have held back certain information that could have resulted in harm?
Spot on.
I wonder if she would say the same if it happened to her or any of her loved ones.
🤣🤣 hilarious!!
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Some people have lost all moral compass.
It's the ones who don't post that are the most scary.
You just assume all ppl have them to begin with.
yes!
You have expressed the situation in a very clear and succinct.👍
Well...I used think UHC was the worst when I did insurance approvals. It was cringe-worthy to hear a pt say they had UHC through their employer. So my believe back then...a few decades ago - was UHC was the worst. I am not saying the CEO deserved to die. However, this frustration with insurance has been long building and I think the medical system has lost its moral compass! That includes the AMA or those who intimidate good doctors and those who suppress medical information in favor of pushing agendas in research that benefit Pharma that pays for the research...it's circular - it's immoral.
It was disgusting. She's a scary sociopath.
But should we really care or bother interfering when the sociopaths are finally consuming each other instead of just us?
Take into consideration all the unnecessary and widespread damage and injustices that have been impacted upon nearly every aspect of society; as well as the rampant injuries, illness, and fatalities; directly caused in no small part by these same pharma•bio•med•financiers since 2020? And as they still endlessly loot us, lie to us, withhold truth, and continue to further degrade the overall health and well-being of society... I can't help but think, "at least these loons aren't razing cities and creating autonomous riotzones.. but it is too bad that it wasn't somebody much worse and much higher up the ladder."
I blame Obama Care for our health insurance failures!
Yes
You should be blaming a foreign country that's infested your government....
Some of them. Others, not at all. Most of my fam would be uninsurable because of a genetic condition without it.
No, it was long ago corrupt. Obama made it worse. The real problem is the marriage of Big Pharma, Big Food, Big Corporate Health/Hospitals, and Big Government. Now, the best thing to do is go private, with a functional cash only Dr and practitioners like chiropractors, etc. I used Crow Health and Function Health with each other. Very happy.
Agreed 👍 👍 💯 accurate 1:56
“Let me be clear “, I wasn’t stating what I was actually stating 😅. Please, these people are clowns and they know exactly what they are saying or implying.
"I wasn't stating what I was stating" means she's lying through her teeth. She see's no wrong wirh her behaviour, and is highly manipulative. But she's looking to pick up others wrongs to behave badly.
I detest the phrase "let me be clear". Very often followed by gaslighting.
Does not condone death of innocents? Is she not a modern feminist?
Alecia, you are giving unhinged people far too much credit! It's exactly because she is crazy that she's capable of such blatant contradictions on Live TV...!!
The family of the murdered CEO should taking her to court for defamation and instigating murder
Why? His medical insurance would surely deny lead poisoning claims.
You're defending the monsters and villainizing the people who actually stood up to them. Man humans are dumb.
Defamation? Sure. Instigating murder? No, she did not do that. And being happy about someone being eliminated is protected free speech.
I think she is disgusting, but you are allowed to be disgusting (besides any defaming she has done).
@@ItApproacheschill out chairman m@0 (censorship dodging).
Insurance is the reason why healthcare is so unaffordable. They can charge you $2,000.00 for a tylenol because the insurance will pay it. If not for all the insurance, pricing would have to be competitive
Yes that was always the worry with private medical insurance there's no safeguard for collusion between big pharma and big insurance. Why would big insurance want to pay higher prices for medical treatment?? Because they'll just pass the cost onto the client.
Exactly. It’s so crazy!!!
The government CANNOT escape blame
I bet the insurance doesn’t pay that price, but you’re told that is the price so you will keep your insurance. The provider would probably charge you $3000 and the insurance company would be charged $10. It’s because the insurance company has clout and you as an individual don’t.
I don't know what the current price is for lidocaine. When my son was a toddler he split his chin on his toy box. The hospital charged $114 to insurance for the whole vial even though they used a smidgen of it's contents. At the time my wife was in dermatology. She knew how much a case of lidocaine was. $85 for 24 vials. It's probably more than that now but that mark-up is insanity.
There’s a saying that when you say ‘but,’ you erase everything you said before it.
"Honey I love you but I dont want you to stick that fork in the outlet."
Does this mother not love her child?
(sorry, I hate the saying you mentioned - not a dig at you personally)
@@Kalleestoyeah exactly it's just a semantic trick to control a conversation.
@@Kalleesto sorry, but that's an old saying for a reason. 😆
@@Kalleesto Hello :) I learned a communication method that uses the conjunction "and" instead of "but". By doing so, your sentence can convey love through protection when stated, "Honey I love you and I don't want you to stick that fork in the outlet." In this way, the child correlates Mom's love with safety while exploring and playing. I learned that from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) interpersonal skills and effective communication. I hope that's interesting and helpful. Thanks for your comment @Kalleesto :)
All I heard was "you erase everything you said before it"
Lorenz has long been criticized for her journalism ethics. In 2020, she repeatedly publicized the 15-year-old daughter of Trump aide Kellyanne Conway for the teen's outspoken TikTok posts and allegedly reached out directly to the minor without her parents' permission.
Lorenz also reported stories on the Depp/Heard trial.
Would love to hear you talk about sanpaku eyes, the tranfixing stare that many sociopaths seem to share.
Yes, those eyes are very off-putting. Granny said to never trust a person when you can see too much of the whites of their eyes
Two wrongs don’t make a right, as my mom always said
Surgeons have most definitely made people die, but this woman thinks that because of that it's GOOD that they're murdered. One's for accidental reasons such as misdiagnoses and flooded backlogs. The other's psychopathy.
But three lefts do make a right.
Not everyone on social media are evil enough to promote unliving people 😮
Isn’t that a crime to call for murder?
She didn't directly call for it. Free speech is strong and that is a good thing.
Empty eyes. Character disordered individual who spits word salad. Reminiscent of a recent failed candidate…? Excellent video, Jesus.
She’s pretty flippant when she says executions are not a normal practice to solve problems. This woman needs to be de platformed.
She's "not against death as a principle" lol
You are pushing the removal of free speech. Congrats you played yourself. Free speech permits saying anything, including hateful or harmful things. You not liking it does not mean your view trumps theirs. EVER.
She just killed her career.
She can join Rachel Zegler!
Oh, if only. She is a loathsome individual, and not just for this. Beth Dutton without the charm.
So if someone is angry, rightly or wrongly, ending someone’s life will highlight someone’s grievance ? What she said might convince lots of people to ignore the law. She’s been extremely irresponsible.
She has the privilege of a very wealthy family so, no repercussions.
Thank you for drawing awareness of some of these insane people. I wasn’t aware of the existence of this woman, but she makes my stomach turn
There is evil in this world, sometimes it has a pretty face.
And sometimes it does not, such as in the case of Taylor Lorenz
I hope I look half as good as her when I turn 90.
But not this time
Thank you for talking about this. I'm not shedding a tear for this guy, but I am a little disgusted at the behavior of the usual suspects.
And the idea that they are just "joyful" over this man's death because of the Healthcare system.......Bull 💩
Give me a break. These people are celebrating death and violence every other week; or they are bemoaning that someone didn't get killed. And yes, it is the "woke".
They were upset the bullet missed Trump
They were celebrating October 7th
They mocked anti mask and Vax people when they died of covid
They cheer and defend criminals while they demonize victims and actual heros
They applaud the killing of police officers
So it's not that this is an isolated incident of being the death cult that they are; it's just one of those times when dancing on someone's grave is socially acceptable among thier peer group.
Disgusting people whose only kindness is performance.
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She’s got another clip on Piers Morgan where she is laughing about the killing.
Taylor is one of the main reasons that the credibility of anyone she worked or works for is in a free fall
Isn't she a pro Amber Heard cheerleader
15:01 If you don’t like it, opt out. You don’t NEED health insurance. I’ve lived without it for 3 years. I’m much happier out of the system. I choose my care and no one is telling me it won’t be covered. Crowd Health is amazing.
But if you need surgery or have an emergency you still interact with the system.
You must be a healthy young person. I was able to not have insurance when I was young.
Is this not this 'hate speech' inciting violence?
Yes Insurance companies have done horrible things to people but do not condone murder.
Gona cost us even more now that CEOs need personal armed security
The right isn't celebrating this
Yeah the right is mainly against it, though some on the right are rationalizing it. The left are just being psychopaths smiling at it.
Compared to the UK and Canadian healthcare systems, I will take what we have in the US, even with its flaws.
My mom’s former boss is Canadian. He has said the same thing.
"I don't think, here's the reality."
Taylor will need care one day. You can’t stay young forever. Maybe her care team will remember her
She's nuts. Jesus I'm retired make less than 60k a year and you can't believe what I have to pay monthly for health insurance. United healthcare which was an option was literally $788 a month. Obviously didn't choose that but I'm paying $600 a month on top of rent and everything else life is hard but my God I would never go after anyone!
These are clearly people who have no religious beliefs.
By that ofc. you mean Christian beliefs.
What are gabbering about? A lot of murders ,oppression ,horrors ,have been done in the name of religion...Only Jesus is the answer. And he's not a religion.
@@forsakenjones4695 Jesus is useless.
Yeah ... she's a real peach.....there are few people more reprehensible.
Any guy saying they would get with Taylor is just outing themselves as never having a relationship
Or just as sick and into S & M.
Thank you for showing this!!! It’s about time someone saying this. thanks!!! 🙏
So if Republicans said this no one would let it slide. Two tiered system.
Taylor Lorenz was talking like a psychopath.
Like a psychopath?
Paul.. I am not disagreeing with you. 😊
She is the poster child for psychopaths
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Because she is a psychopath
"These are the girls that POOP THE BED"!!!!!!!!!!
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You're freaking awesome
Pull the Wings Off of Fly's !#!#!#!
Nobody should want anyone to die!
You are weak
A little window into that decision to not pay for extra anestisia from a person well aware of how medical billing works. My mother runs a dialysis unit in NY for a non-profit company, and she absolutely hates what the system has been forced to become. Lets say a dialysis treatment costs $500 for the office to cover costs and keep the doors open. If a patient has medicaid or medicare the government will then TELL the company how much they're going to reimburse the hospital for that treatment, lets say $250. Then you have the large insurance companies who do the same thing under the assumption that they cover a lot of patients and will bring the office a lot of work, just like walmart negotiates prices of products under the promise that they will be able to sell so much of that product its worth it for the company to sell with a smaller profit margin. What that practice has done is force medical care companies to then overcharge people with small insurance companies or no insurance at all to make up the costs not paid by the government because their margins were already tight. What the whole thing has created is a massive overbilling crisis to counter the negotiation of prices and the large hospital groups are the worst offenders. Im sure that the large hospital groups have used the anestisia thing as a way to recoup costs and regularly overcharge for it. The thing my mom really hates though is how people who have worked their entire life and have their own insurance cant get all the care they need while undocumented citizens get red carpet treatment through the govt and American citizens pay extra to cover what the goverment wont pay for the care they force companies to give to non citizens. My father was in the ICU for over a month many years ago and the bill was almost half a million dollars. The itemized bill had things like a $500 charge each day for a sponge bath given by a person who did it in 20mins and was only getting paid $20hr to do it. His insurance company got the bill cut down to a lil over $200k but for anyone who didnt have insurance those sponge baths would cost a full $500 and the only negotiation is pay the full price or we ruin your credit with a collections agency. It all comes down to the government having so many people on medicare and medicaid who the tax payers are already paying for only to have to pay even more when they need care because the hospitals cant keep the lights on with the money the government gives them. People say they want socialozed medicine but we pretty much are already there
Instead of getting rid of their CEOs, the best way to prevent Capitalism from being corrupted is antitrust. Promoting competition in business is the based.
TMZ’s Harvey Levin (the man standing) is a former Lawyer. He looks uncomfortable because he IS uncomfortable with Taylor Lorenz’s initial post & her unapologetic reasoning for it.
SIGNING !
This was scary.
But the policy of not covering anesthesia was reversed quickly by Blue Cross Blue Shield. So, fear of retribution works, apparently.
Yep
People forget that if you have a plan paid for by your employer, your employer has negotiated with the insurance company and purchased that plan. I used to work for Prudential and there was a cosmetic company that paid for plastic surgery, face lifts, etc. That company paid top dollar for that plan.
That's a lot of money your company is paying that could be going into yours and your colleagues' pockets.
When Taylor says "WE" what she really means is "SHE"🌻I never let anyone make these kind of statements on my behalf without publicly calling them out. A major red flag for me is when someone smiles as they recount or contemplate bad acts, IMO that denotes cruelty and opens a window exposing them for who they really are.
The world is not celebrating lady you are and I like how you tied your tie, sir. It looks really cool.
Just remember the HOT/CRAZY axis 😂
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Classic
She’s not ugly, but hot? No
We as a family of 4 pay 1400 a month for health insurance. Only to have to cover half the urgent care bill when I ripped a tendon recently. People want change, we are struggling and our insurance bills are more than our mortgage. Its absolutely insane. Changes need to be made, one way or another. The medical and insurance industry is the most corrupt evil industry in the United States.
Why then pay? Put your 1400 aside and just pay cash.
I know reality isn't allowing, but it seems like it would be better just to pay the $1400 directly on the hospital bill. Cut out the insurance all together.
Exactly, just put aside $1000 or whatever you can afford, grow it in an investment account which you can pull out funds for emergency medical bills.
@@mylamberfeeties875 while I tend to agree with you, my wife has some medical conditions that we need to have the coverage for in case of an extreme event. We have differences in opinion on the matter but we unfortunately need the coverage. During the birth of our 1st son a few years ago we had some wild complications the led to a huge bill. Although our out of pocket sucks, if we had to cover the entire bill in that case it would have been devastating. Still 1400 a month is absolutely insane to me.
@@deborahrichardson3731 yeah for me that would work, but for my wife it wouldn't. The crazy costs of medical for the birth of the children would have exceeded even the 1400 a month due to complications. Partly due to incompetence of the hospital imo in one case.
She got berated by Piers Morgan on when she was invited on his panel in Uncensored. A clip of this was also shown and discussed on PBD, 2 very prominent podcasts. Allegedly, Taylor Lorenz was also fired by the Washington Post , a couple of months ago, to which she replied that she had resigned.
there's a difference between wanting someone dead and not feeling empathy for someone who died simply cuz you didn't like them. If someone wronged me, i'm not gonna give them empathy, because i am entitled to give it to whoever i feel needs it (i'm talking of - my empathy). If you want me to empathize with you, you must give me a reason to. There's a reason why people feel sad when their favourite actor or singer dies, it's not like they ever had the chance to meet and befriend them in person, but they connected to them through their work in music and film and knowing their not around anymore makes it feel like you lost a family member, cuz their movies and music is a part of your childhood. Conversely, when an actor or singer you don't like passes, then you won't care because you didn't like their movies or music, so you probably avoided watching them and listening to them. Wishing someone dead automatically implies you care if they die or not and therefore "not caring if they die" automatically implies you did not wish them dead.
This will not serve her future employment endeavors.
She has connections that can sanitize her post history (to the point where we can't capture her history).
He who stirs the pot, should have to lick the spoon! 😅
There should be a better way to register how awful our health care system is. The sad truth is that many, many people have suffered and/or died because of insurance denials. The incentives that insurance executives get to keep these denials going so profits go up is a disgusting model. We need a change here. The only positive thing that came out of that awful event is that it highlights this issue.
Unfortunately people are not always getting care and life saving surgeries and treatments in socialized Healthcare either. So what is the answer?🤷♀️
Jesus! I just looked at yr subs! Congrats ❤❤❤
Been watching since team pancake and you deserve great success. You have honed yr presentation to rival the greats. Thanks for the laughs and for teaching me so much about how to spot psychos and manipulators.
Love frm another patriot in boston ma USA. ❤❤❤
Crazy eyes 👀
What was the correct use for the term Succubus?
Update: I just check it out and no, this isn’t applicable in this case… Lorenz is WAY worse than any succubus. My apologies to every succubus I would have offended.
@patrickpoulin4175 it's ok
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CEOs get their marching orders from the Board of Directors who are responsible to shareholders. Factor in lobbyists, huge drug costs, over-billing, Obamacare , etc., and we have a big mess. At least we don’t offer sui. cide as a ‘treatment’ option like Canada does…
🦶 in 👄. Social media shows how dumb we all can be. What happened to keeping some thoughts to yourself!
Hmm “journalist” in the loosest sense of the word…
And she knows all about loose....😮
Smiling while talking about unliving people...totally weirdo 😮
19:30 her smile…
In any situation, ask what the response would’ve been had Trump said it.
Enjoyed the vid JER,
You have a clear and lucid style and you speak from an ethical base that is reasonable and sane.
This combined with your dry sense of humor make for great vids.
Well done.
One clue is. When they see you, they are angry, ashen, unable to communicate. There hatred is all consuming.
No lady. You go after the lobbyists and the lawmaker’s. You pass legislation that cuts the insurance company out of medical decisions. Nobody is killing anyone. Psyco.
More importantly, the American healthcare system keeps people ALIVE.
Wow, he said she reaps what she sows, but that is her argument about the CEO
"This girl is going to f you up, no." 🤣🤣
Lose your way with no moral compass, some have absolutely no, zero, none morals😊
Important life lesson; Sociopaths have lots of empathy, the better to manipulate others. What they don't have is sympathy. Empathy is recognizing what emotions others are feeling, sympathy is identifying with others feelings.
You have that backwards. Sympathy is recognition/pity, empathy is identifying with the other person’s feelings.
@netpunk5890 No, I don't. As in "sympathetic response".
@ and now you’re referring to the body’s “flight or fight” system, so you should probably look some stuff up
Correct. Our family’s sociopath has straight up said to people, “Why are you telling me this (their feelings)? I don’t care.”
He also told us “Yeah, if my parents died, it would be sad, but its not like I’d be _crushed.”_ He told us this, knowing I’d lost my mother 3 months before (and yes, I was crushed).
Give her a break... she was bullied online, in case you weren't aware.
Psychos need love too yano!
Two wrongs don’t make a right as the saying goes. This is the brilliance of free speech. Let’s hear for ourselves who the evil people are & be able to call them out.
The only thing that's ever missing from Taylor Lorenz is the truth lol. She can talk about context and narrative all she wants, but it's just another way of her narcissism to get around defending the validity of what she actually claims
She’s pretty flippant when she says executions are not a normal practice to solve problems.
How about BECOME the CEO and change the ethics of the organisation 😒😔🤷🏽♀️
I think that we can all agree that we would rather pay more tax for health care full coverage then to pay for insurance that creates billionaires and are supported by the pharmaceutical industry that wants us to be unhealthy
You're right. Except enough taxes are already being paid. Govt needs to better direct the benefits
Murdering someone and refusing to help someone who’s dying are two very different things…
People like her can't resist the chance to virtue signal, hoping for attention and likes. Its quite wonderful really since they end up exposing themselves and the internet is forever lol
Sorry, Jose, but the CEO does have a personal interest in the denial of health care. the more denials, the more profit, then his check is bigger too. He is personally benefitting by denying care.
Harvey knows this is so wrong and his face shows it.
I had 3 stitches in the US in a hosp. emerg. 6 months later had 3 stitches in Latin America in a dr. office. $1800 US, sat in a chair and an intern did it. $40 Latin America, laid on a bed, painkiller, antibiotic, biopsy and follow up.
It is NOT supply and demand in the usual sense, it's price fixing, monopoly, the rules are written by those with the money. The market is not determining the prices. It's preying on the vulnerable. And when people pay for a service and die when the service is not provided, that is the crime that starts with M. No one should take that job, no matter how much it pays.
And at $10 million a year, plus bonuses, if you're real desperate, take that job for a year and spend the rest of your life doing charitable works.
A letter writing campaign is not going to bring about the changes that are needed.
So... it's fine for Congressmen to advocate for foreign wars, sending Ukrainian teens to be killed uselessly by Russia, and bombing entire nations. But hating insurance company executives is beyond acceptable?
Pretty stupid! Totally hypocritical.
She,and so many others, show how these extremists have taken 'cancel culture' to it natural conclusion.
I hope you're feeling better today 😊
I always fall for the crazy ones. That's why I'm single.
Dening someone coverage isn't murder because the person can instead go into debt to get a lifesaving operation.
Good afternoon Mr Rosas!! Thank you for your astute observations today!
Noon LIVES discontinued temp or ?
Missing the great chat pal community & kind conversations!!
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The word 'but' is almost always used to pivot and emphasize a negative or contrary qualifier of the previous start of the statement.
Lorenz has always been a nasty piece of work.
It'd be interesting, if you were to find old footage of United Health Care's CEO who was just killed, to analyze HIS sociopathic traits!
Exactly!
Evil