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Hi nose Alco C 628s on the Chicago North Western
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2010
- This is a preview from Railfanning the Upper Great Lakes Volume 1 of hi-nose Alco C628's on the Chicago & Northwestern. The production covers the trip by Ken Bealer of Allentown to the upper great lakes area in 1983. Featured is the DM&IR, Hi-nose Alco C628's on the Chicago & Northwestern and Alco's last stand on the Green Bay & Western.
Footage digitized from Super 8mm sound film.
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I worked for the C&NW when we recieved the N%W c628, we had a couple main generator explosions because they were full of coal dust, they were somewhat limited because they were over 400000 lbs
Interesting...
I thought Alco went to a central filtered air intake with the Century series to avoid just such a problem?😕
@@openeyes-411I thought that was the later Centuries only.
The horn at 1:21 is awesome, it sounds like a whistle and then a horn.
When the other bells are seized and gacked up with oil, the air is channeled to the other bells, causing them to overblow or squeal.
@@alexpaumen3937 Is this the sound here?
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory Yes. On the first blast, it squeals but then it doesn't on the other three.
@@alexpaumen3937 Huh. So it is possible to re-create this sound.
Yes it is.
I'm stunned not one of these were saved and the funny thing is, they were one of the few remaining C628s left operating in the US when they retired in 1986. With that said, they look great, despite the bad horn.
+Caesar K Rock they were all like that? i thought it was broken
It is extremely fouled from that traditional Alco smoke.
I like the horn
Horn sounds awesome.
Leslie s5t’s fouled a lot so it’s not entirely the loco’s fault
A four-unit lashup of C628s, that's awesome!
That horn sounds like you kicked the harmonica player in the nuts during his solo!! Cool looking engines,never seen this particular high nosed engine before!
The Alco High Hood C628's were originally N&W.Purchased in 1973 & operated until their ending in 1986.After that,They were replaced by SD60's,SD40-2's,SD45's (Secondhand only since the ones on the C&NW Roster do not have Dynamic Brakes)
I hail from Escanaba,Michigan.I recall seeing those in town all the time.They ran in sets on the Ore runs,also freights to Green Bay or Iron Mountain.
Not too many good videos of Alco Centurys out there, let alone high nose, my favorite locomotives... AWESOME, thank you for this ! LOL, gotta love those whimpy horns... Alco must've already been budget cutting...
Tyco loves using these in their sets
Yes they do, and boy did they have some colorful ones at that, got a Santa Fe one myself.
Awesome! Beautiful color video! I believe the truss bridge in Stephenson in still there. There are several on that stretch between Powers and Menominee.
Awesome video! I see HO scale models of these locomotives pop up on Ebay, although I elected to get a D&H unit myself, mainly because it was more affordable than the C&NW versions.
That horn does a complete service to that train
Great video! I have railfaned the upper great lakes and taken video's near Wilson and Powers Michigan. It was nice to see those classic locomotive's working the same line's that I watch CN train's working now. Well done! Rich
I recently rail fanned in Little Lake and Marquette, Michigan myself. I’m happy to say that the LS&I Marquette Ore Dock is still going strong!! I’m sad to say, that the Escanaba Ore Dock is not in operation. Happily, trains still go through Little Lake. It takes major determination to find one, though. With luck and determination, I saw one this Summer.
Thank you for the wonderful video! When I was a toddler in Little Lake, Michigan, I saw C&NW Iron Ore trains everyday. That was in the mid to late 1970s. Anytime I see such videos, I think of Little Lake. Some of you might know that already.
Miss that horn from my childhood
Beautiful!!! In cnw colors
I love the chug of an old Alco.
That sound of that horn reminds me of Amtrak's Leslie horn on SDP40Fs
These locos are so cool!!
That S5T has had some better days lol
I worked for the C&NW at cedarlake shop MN massive locomotive, yes great horn, over 400,000 lbs, all the alco switch engines and C628 made alot of smoke
As I was watching, I was thinking the exact same thing that Caesar K Rock was....it's a shame that some of those units weren't saved! By the mid-80's railfans knew the Alco C628 was a seriously endangered species. Anyway, we were lucky some folks got out there and shot some nice video of them in action, along with that string of brand new Rio Grande hopper cars too!
Just be happy some are preserved.
The trains of my youth.
Beautiful locomotive
Pretty sure it's a Leslie S5T. Such a good horn but prone to getting sick all the same
Sounds epic.
I do like this John Pechulis
The Tracks it's running on is now used by CN.
@tartopfan Glad you liked it. More to see on the DVD
The ALCO's are nice and quiet though, they remind me of the new GE units being used and the newer technology.
I think the horns sound pretty cool.
The horn is a RS3L you can tell by listening to the undercurrent sound similar to the ones found on the cnw sd40-2's
It sounds more like a very fouled RS5T rather than an RS3L.
These units were produced in the 60's so they most likely have S5T's
@@icrailfanner Somebody recently uploaded some more footage of these and some of the S5Ts were later swapped for S3Ls.
@cuzinitr Thanks, glad you liked it. More to see in the full DVD
All NW engines were dual controlled. I guess C&NW took the second control stand out when they bought them.
Thank you so much for clearing that up Gordon!!!👍👍
I was having a major meltdown over this, as most or all the video's I've seen show these running short hood fwd - yet the Bowser HO model has the F marking long hood fwd, as is shown in some actual photos:
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=695825
Funny that CNW retained the N&W marking if they were dual controlled - especially if they removed the other control stand to only operate SHF!
@@openeyes-411 Thanks for your reply. As a one time engineer, running long hood forward was the pits.
@@gordonvincent731
Yeah I'll bet! I'm on L.I. and have read that the engineers used to complain about the C420's long hood swaying on the tracks - must've been pure hell in a 628! 😂
@@openeyes-411 I don't think they swayed with those tri-mounts. I use to be an engineer on the Joint LIne, Denver-Pueblo and use to operate the old U25/28C's. On those you felt every joint in the jointed rail!
Great video i Like cnw
@notalott
I'm glad you liked it. I am unsure of their history or disposition.
The Doppler sounds OK.
Yes they are ex N&W C 628!
Purchased in 1973 & operated until their ending in 1986.After that,They were replaced by SD60's,SD40-2's,SD45's (Secondhand only since the ones on the C&NW Roster do not have Dynamic Brakes)
Very eery sounding horn.
yes indeed
The DMIR section is approx 34 mins, CNW - 8 mins, GBW - 21 mins
Handsome Units
am I the only one who noticed the bumpy track on this? So bad it's almost Australian!
Nice video! What a weird horn.
@RETreadingengineer
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Does anyone know what kind of horn that is? It's very pretty when it isn't cracking. Those high hood ALCos look very fitting in CNW!
The horn is a Leslie S5T.
It's an extremely fouled Leslie S5T-RF
Brutish looking beasts. They must have been good ALCOs. They were around forever and they handled some heavy trains.
I think those are ex N&W C628 highhoods
Purchased in 1973 & operated until its end in 1986.After that they were replaced by SD60's,SD40-2's,SD45's (Secondhand only since the ones on the C&NW Roster do not have Dynamic Brakes).
train must have been over powered apart from second unit which smoked a couple of time's there was no traditional alco smoke!!!!still good to see them!
ALCO 4EVER
Triplex5014 ......yes
Those horns are severely fouled, but they still sound good in a unique way.
I like video
Shot on 8mm with sound in 1983?
CSX Productions VHS tape. Chemical movie film was just about obsolete by 1983
Resurrection from the dead. DVD is not listed on website. Is a copy still available?
@notalott
Thanks for the information.
That scene in Oconto is still the same in 2023.
It is now Canadian National.
I am curious on why there is an employee in the third unit?
CN&W in the 80's? He was either keeping the engine running. Or that's where the bong was stashed.
Maybe there's more crew members on board than the number of seats in the lead unit. Some railroads began removing cabooses before they started reducing the number of crew members on the train.
@@charlesgault3777 Probably the head brakeman doing nothing lmfao. Engineer and Fireman are up front.
My ears!
The horn sounds like a sad saxophone 😅
Well there's a horn for Soundtraxx to add.
That horn in the beginning sounded like a 5 year old picking up a trumpet for the first time,, the second horn sounded like it had a wad of chewing gum in it .....
Nice, too bad you didn't film anything of the caboose.
funny horn love the video
the alco units sound sad in a way with that horn they got, like its whining or something. bad horn but gives a lot of personality to it.
I don't find that horn loud enough. It sounds like a sick moose or something.
It's extremely fouled. When all five are playing, it's MEGA loud even though I haven't heard one yet. Here's a link to an AWESOME one that's not fouled: atsf.railfan.net/airhorns/s5tr_21nw.wav
Definately a sick moose!Mooooooossse!!!
@@alexpaumen3937 thanks for the tip
At 122 hit pause. Close your eyes and imagine that Miss Ellie just got told JR got shot. Then press play. The horn "two tone" sounds like mood music for a crappy tv soap opera. hahaha. Handsome high hood units though.
In the upper Great Lakes, probably healing iron ore or maybe coal.
Train was headed to Green Bay, WI from Escanaba, MI. I would have to check my notes, but I believe it was an empty ore train
That horn is so fouled I thought it was a Nathan horn.
Ex NW 628's
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Cheap & Nothing Wasted.
The Horn sound was really horrible!
why you do this to these poor alcos?
Don't like the horn much
Those horns sound like shit. But the locomotives look good.