Is It REALLY The Best $50 Knife? BPS Bushmate
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Hey thank you so much for your honest review and your very kind words! We really appreciate it.
I think you really got the pro's and cons of the knife right and well explained! Very good feedback.
You're 100% right about the sheath. We talked about this with BPS. its a wrong sheath choice even when its a good sheath but its not good for this knife. they should be replacing sheaths on them soon for a new one. For us this is something that needs to be fixed ASAP.
But the value they deliver for the price is simply amazing.
Btw. I was watching your channel even before we created our own! So i'm kinda giggling about being in the video hahaha
Thank you so much! You rock!
Thanks so much, you guys are really crushing it! The Bushmate design is really well done. I really like it, i’m glad that they are going to swap out the sheath and I know bolts will take away from the aesthetics of the design, but if they can swap them out for bronze colored bolts, or screws of some kind, that would be awesome! Would love to stay in touch, and figure out a way how we could collaborate at some point. Either, if you guys ever make it to the states, or I might have to plan a trip to Europe! Talk with you soon and Merry Christmas!!
@@gideonstactical it really got me thinking. Our particular knife didn't have the problem but I've had other knives with similar knife have the problem. Maybe I'll ask them to make a sample with screws. Problem is they probably can't be the brass.
Anyway! Thanks a lot man and thank you for the hospitality you will also always be welcome here! Wether it's a Collab or a coffee ☕
Awesome!! Talk with you soon
@@DutchBushcraftKnives Personally, I would rather have the bolts as well. They are far more functional, and allow far more flexibility for customization. I don't care about the brass. And honestly, BPS would probably rather use bolts, because then it would be the same as all their other knives.
As far as the sheath goes, at first I thought it was the standard BPS sheath, but now that I realize it's different, I would just prefer the standard BPS sheath.
So I‘m still wondering how much say you had when putting out this knife with your name on it
Man iv been watching your channel for over a decade now. I can't believe it's been that long . Many times I've turned to your channel to redirect my focus on things that I feel are best in life when the rest is weighing me down. Thank you bro! God bless you man. Not only are your videos very informative and have helped me immeasurably when deciding on outdoor gear, you provide a very entertaining experience as well. Merry Christmas 🎄
That means so much really appreciate that means so much and I am glad to have you as part of the GT crew. Merry Christmas to you!!
Thanks Arron, always appreciate you keeping it real. The Dutch Bushcarft Knives boys are insane; that is why I enjoy watching them.
A great way to stop the handles from shifting is to stop beating it with a log and simply use them like they were designed. Buy a light hatchet. Why is it that everyone thinks you’re supposed to beat your knives through logs? That’s for survival knives.
DBK the designers of this knife used it to baton through wood in their video. So it quite literally is designed to do that. I don’t think splitting wood is that extreme to where it would be in the survival knife category. In bushcraft you still need to be able to split wood. General camp knife activities. Don’t need a hatchet for that. I’m not processing a bunch of wood I’m just making one fire. Knife is a good versatile tool that can do it
Big fan of your channel and DBK as well. Nice to see another detailed review
Awesome!!!
Yesterday day my BPS Varan arrived which is similar to the Raven but green with micarte scales and a green kydex sheath. Its plenty sharp and I'm sure it will be a top performer. Great video, happy holidays.
I didn't expect a giggle from you .
it's on the short side, bent to the left... You can make it work like many of us do...
:D good one !
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I have about 10 channels on alarm, two of them are gideonstactical and DBK! Not only does a channel have to have good information, but also needs to be entertaining. You guys have both nailed it. Merry Christmas Aaron!
Awesome 👏 merry Christmas to you too
I have two BPS fixed blade knives with leather sheathes and they’re fantastic. I love them.
I've been carrying the BPS ADVENTURER as my only fixed blade for several years and love it.
Wow, that is awesome!
Spot on review, thanks Aaron!!
No problem!!
That size of knife, there is no reason to chop or batton with it. Use it for what it is intended for and you’ll be good 👍🏼
Thnx for the excellent review.
I also noticed the problem with the handle scales on other knives. It is always knives with no liners. I think liners absorb the shock from impact.
I got one for Christmas. Today! The sheath thing is fixed. Just for perspective, the sheath on my JakarroPukko cost more than the knife Merry Christmas :-)
I have four BPS knives and I'm buying a second set because I oiled the sheath and forced a patina on the blades but I want to have a set to keep for a poor man's collection.
Thanks for the useful information Aaron
Any time!
Thank You 🙏 and Merry Christmas….
Same to you!
I love their sheets. I buy them from Amazon and use them for knives I make. I have the Bushmate and will probably use the sheath for one of my blades, it’s a a real nice sheath.
Great fair review. It looks like a practical woods knife design. I personally ordered the BPS Adventurer knife. I'm hoping to get a review of it done. Either way what an incredible value BPS knives are. Thanks
I always appreciate your thorough and honest reviews. I was considering trying one of these as I just learned of BPS today. Opted to treat myself to a different class and brand of knife instead. Thanks.
Thanks so much for checking out the video! Hope you have a great day Mike
Howdy and thanks for the review…always enjoy ur work! I ordered one a few months ago and returned in one day.. for the money I should have not expected much but the handle and metal edges did not line up and it was very rough to use. The sheath was okay and probably worth keeping. May try again after they work out details like that. Be well
Thanks for sharing
BPS knives and sheaths are freaking awesome - I have several models and they are all among my favorites. All came shaving sharp.
Such a solid budget option. 👊
Would love to buy one. But definitely not with those issues. That sucks too. I'd love a DBK designed blade in my collection. But I need to trust in that like all my other fixed blades at 100 percent. Not 75 or 50. Hopefully they make some much needed changes. Thanks for the video man.
The positivity towards other people in this video is what we need everywhere that got you an instant sub for me I found your channel a couple of days ago and I like it and I am going to keep watching 😀👍 best regards from Scandinavia
Welcome aboard! Much appreciated
I have a BPS Adventurer. Great knife. I would say for the money but it's simply a great knife!
Saaaa-weet solution! The savage's sheath looks good on that knife
I also have this knife and have been really enjoying it. I live 25 miles from town. Theres no trash service here so we sort our grabage from things that can burn, and that which does not burn. So i get lots of practice starting fires in the burn barrels.
Awesome video man I always look forward to seeing your content. Also what jacket are you wearing in the very beginning of the vid?
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Maybe you could put in a rivet to increase the tension.
New to the channel . First video was your top 10edc foxed blades. It’s a pleasure to hear from you and learn. You are very knowledgeable and informative. Thanks for sharing with us
So glad you enjoy it and to have you a part of the GT Crew
Great video again. Thank you. As far as the Farro rod loop, I always cut mine off. (not a fan of anything on my sheath) Then I hot dip all my leather sheaths in wax. Holds form better in my opinion. I have the BPS Adventurer. Kinda leary to put it through too much since your last BPS video. Have to do that soon. Thanks again.
Oh nice info about the sheaths!!
Merry Christmas, 😎👍👍
I added a new BPS knife to my collection, the BPS Beta in D2
I love mine. Not a first though. I put a convex edge on it with my ken onion grinder attachment, then I sanded the chines off the handle to make it more like a bark river handle and then I fixed the sheath problem by punching another hole in the retention strap. Bam! now its an awesome package. Just the sheath and ferro rod are worth the price alone.
To be fair it’s a pretty light duty knife so banging on it too much is not really justified. That said if it can easily be tougher, it should be.
BPS sells a similar Scandi knife with the same steel but screwed down scales, better sheath with ferro rod (together $40) or even the Scandi blade blank with screws ($22) if you want to take your first steps in making your own knife (with Micarta for example). Other BPS leather sheaths with/without ferro rod are also available separately ($12 - $20).
Love buying BPS sheaths for other knives, might even try making my own knife and using a bps sheath
Bought this instantly when it came out and have mixed feelings about it. It‘s rather small which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But would not have guessed before. The sheath is not usable! But looks good 😂
The knife is kind of unfinished, like all of my bps and beavercraft knifes. Just sand it a bit and it‘s good to go. This time I even had to sand the metal since it has some sharp edges at the guard. The main problem was it came rusted. That’s a nogo for me. But I love the handle ergonomics.
It looks like 6 friends are making knives with their Harbor freight tools. I guess it works
I've got a BPS bushcraft knife (I've unfortunately forgotten the model name, I've had it so long) that has never given me any trouble. The Scandi was beautiful and even from the factory and it takes an absolutely ridiculous edge with no effort. Mine actually has screws in the handle, which haven't ever loosened on me, but that seems to rectify the issues with pins you've experienced (if they loosen up, just tighten the screws). Same sheath as the savage, but with a fire steel.
I'll see if I can find the model later, and I'll update this comment if I can.
Edit: the model was the Adventurer. Great value at 40 bucks right now!
I completely liked this video for the short and to the left remark.
Haha 😂 👍
I have been looking for a 4 inch saber grind knife like that for awhile. I am a fan of wood handles but I hate pinned scales. Something to keep an eye on
I agree with the handles shifting and it's annoying forsure, now when i go camping I bring a hatchet so I don't have to baton a knife lol
Thanks for being honest but cool about it
Totally!
Here is my take on the Sheath and scales….. add a screw and leather collar washers to the lower opening to be able to add retention and for the scale pins…… carefully drill out the pins… add some adhesive and nice torx screws. You may have to counter sink them depending on the fit. But that should solve those problems rather cheaply. Just my opinion though.
Good suggestion!
By the way. Can you suggest any knife, similar by design to Savage, but better quality?
I have 2 other BPS knives and they are very sharp. My Bushmate has something off with the factory edge and needs reprofiled
I love your videos as well as dbk.
Awesome! Thanks from both of us!
Hi ! Just today, 3 weeks after ordering, I received the BPS Bushmate DBK knife. Unfortunately, my first impression is not positive. Apart from the fact that the knife is slightly corroded, the quality of the finish is at least average. Poor finish can be felt in the hand, the upper edge looks as if someone forgot to finish it, because it even hurts the fingers. But the chairs spark like crazy!!! (my opinion 10/10). on the other hand, the sheath is finished like a Premium knife, but unfortunately it does not hold the knife safely inside. It can even be removed from a closed sheath. I think it can be recommended to teenagers starting their adventure with bushcraft to try a different knife than the Mora Campanion, or to use such an inexpensive knife ($70 with shipping and engraving) to learn sharpening or personalize it yourself. In my opinion, it's better to spend USD 70 on a better, more expensive knife (e.g. FV Idun), because for now I feel like I wasted USD 70. Of course, the above is only my subjective opinion and may apply to only one copy, although I also have a BPS Adventurer and my opinion about this model is definitely better. Apart from poor balance (the blade is too far forward) and a slightly too small handle in relation to the size of the knife, it is a great tool for an even lower price than the Bushmate. Best regards and I hope you will understand my opinion. I'm waiting for your next awesome videos and tests.
This knife looks great and i really like the look of the sheath, but its a shame it has the problems it has. What would be the best classic style knife for $50-100 bucks?
I have 4 different BPS models now and I go nowhere without the BS3. It is a SUPERB general purpose knife. I will add that I am a knife collector and hardcore knife user for most of my 59 years. I will earnestly say that for the price point, these BPS Knives can not be beaten. That said, I use a knife for it's intended purposes and carry a Norlund Hatchet in the woods as well. I do not beat on my knives with Batons.
I wonder how easy it would be to drill out those thin the mod them and epoxy fit then use those bolts or Chicago screws ? Just an idea and probably a fun weekend project may try it when I order mine
I moved the stud on the strap about a half inch which did provide adequate retention. Then I wet formed the sheath which improved the fit even more, but it would still have been better if they just included their standard sheath like the one on the HK5, Adventurer, and Savage, ideally trimmed down a little shorter so more of the handle is exposed.
The nice thing with the standard sheath it is perfect for wet-forming, and has plenty of "extra" to allow you to trim it down yourself to get the perfect fit. I really like the standard BPS sheath.
100% i prefer saber grinds over scandi.. although for whittling and carving i do like mt Mora..
With regard to the wood handle scales on ANY knife--finished or unfinished. As long as they are nor coated in lacquer or clearcoat, and are bare wood (even if finished with Danish Oil) you should give them an annual (or twice-yearly if you really abuse it) coating of Tung Oil. Use the 100% pure, REAL Tung Oil, not "Tung Oil Finish" products. Loggers and Forestry Service people have been doing that for nearly a century to the handles of their tools, and many of them last longer than the owners, even under daily, torturous, professional use and abuse...
If you told me it was 1095 id have no second thoughts.
I honestly dont notice any practical difference between is 1066 and let's say moras 1095. If it performs good, then it is good steel. A good heat treated 1066 will perform better than a poorly heat treated 1095, remember that before worrying about the specs and numbers.
I mean it should not be that much work to flatten out the grind, done it before, just flattening out the transitiion between primary and secondary bevel might be enough to make it a much better wood carver.
I moved the hole up maybe a half inch on the strap and it’s perfectly solid tension-wise. The knife won’t slip out anymore.
Man I can't recommend these knives from these guys enough at this price point and get out and get 1 before the price goes through the roof just like everything else. Good review
Did BPS design the sheath, is my main question? It’s just unlike all of their others? As per other people, my adventurer sticks like glue in the sheath they designed and use across their range. Love the channel, love the vids, love the insights and education!! 🤜🏼🤛🏻🍺
I believe they did. I don’t know what happened. I am told that there will be a 2.0 version with at least a sheet update. We’ll see what happens with the handles. If they change the handles out I’ll do an update video.
Per your query. I have a ferro rod on 1 of my knives. It does make it convenient, I don't really notice anything different in my application.
Awesome, yeah, it’s a mix bag. I always have my dedicated fire, steel and tinder wick. But it is convenient to have a back up on the blade itself.
I'd love this knife in scandi grind. But I'd buy one, it just isn't very high on my list. Scandi grinds are my favorites.
Interesting review !
About ferro rod, I don't care : if it's given with the knife that's ok, if not it's not a concern because it's far from being my priority. It could be a minor plus, not leading me to buy a knife instead of another.
About this knife... it looks nice but not great.
I used to rely on spanish cutlery when it came to budget fixed flades, and never been disappointed with them. My Nieto Coyote seems to have a similar size, the price was also in the same range (45eur), it has a leather sheath that has good retention, and its AN.58 blade is good enough (around 58HRC, hollow grind, huge stain resistance, easy to sharpen). Coming to scandi I rely on Marttiini models, as always (Condor and Lumberjack).
General thoughts about grind : I tend to believe that high saber grind is the best shape for all around tasks, I love hollow grind for everything except carving, full flat is also good but I tend to like it on my folders (don't know why, it's very subjective), scandi is great but I don't really have the need on my daily tasks (rare usage), never had a convex so I can't tell.
These pins are easy to punch out and replace with corby bolts.
BPS is aware of the sheath issue and is working on a version 2. DBK reviewed their own knife, and in honesty they did not give it a 10/10. I am on with firesteels on a sheath but nothing ese, not into the heavy "survival kit on a sheath" mentality. I like scandi and flat grind for 4" blades. I do have a few that may be thought of as high sabre grind, high meaning the flat part is up past the center line.
Hi Aaron
can u do a review on Lionsteel T6... i found the knive better as Esee 6 and it will be interesting to find ur Opinion about this
THX a Lot ...and keep going ...u do a Great Job....
Awesome!!
Thank you! Cheers!
I just want to know what beanie that is. I can't find one that thick anywhere
I guess I got lucky… my sheath holds the knife really well and came fairly sharp. I stropped it a little and now it shaves. Look forward to getting it outdoors. Thanks for the video! Thanks DBK…LOVE U GUYS
I wonder if they changed how they're making them. Every one I've seen so far came just like the one in this video, with a loose fit in the sheath and the strap being about a half inch too long.
Try the 4.75” bps bushcraft one
If they would have made it stainless!!!
short, little bend to the left, but it works..... i was thinking it as you said it, and then you subtly confirmed my thought process
Hahah!!
Thanx for the review. The blade seems fine but with the scales and the sheath, I personally feel like a esee would be a better buy. Though I love DBK and watch their channel alot. Just doesn't seem like them to design a knife like that in which thr scales would come lose and the sheath doesn't hold the blade well.... cause if they knew this and are able to fix these flaws I believe they would or will, depending on whatever agreement or arrangement they have with BPS knives. I'd love to have one but until those flaws are fixed I'm afraid I'll pass. Again thanx for the awesome review. Some micarta scales or even those with bolts would be alot better like you mentioned. ❤
Totally 👍
ive watched like 4 other reviews of this knife, and not one mentioned the retention/tension issue with the sheath...thats odd.
Apparently, it was an issue that was discovered early on, and supposedly since my video they have fixed it.
I just moved the button stud on my sheath by unscrewing it and punching a new hole. I then glued and filled the old hole with the leather plug from the new hole. Not perfect, but tension is much much better. No real risk of the knife falling out now. Not a bad little budget knife.
Good info thanks!!
The BPS DBK was first brought to my attention when the DBK boys featured it on their Channel. You're right, good Channel and good guys. It was being offered on Amazon that same week; so I looked at the offering with pictures. I noticed several flaws right out of the gate. As you point out, the sheath is not even designed for this knife. Question is, which BPS knife is it actually designed for? The fire steel Loop regarding geometry of the sheath look and functionally are poorly thought out even if afterthought. As far as the knife itself goes..... I definitely do not like the sharpening choil. While the handle profile looks okay, it's pinned in like a common kitchen knife. We know that BPS can do a pseudo scandi type, but why not on the DBK? With all due respect to the DBK boys and BPS, this collaboration of sorts, has too many cons versus the pros and especially add an extra $10 worth over most of the rest of the BPS lines. Great and thoughtful review.
The handle is probably shifting because they did not epoxy the scales to the tang. This seems to be common on cheaper knives.
Wonder why they didn’t screw the scales on like their other knives
I moved the post on the strap for more tension. It is a little better but not much.
Ya I was hoping that would help 🥲
Yes, the drop point is my favorite blade shape so I was interested in that blade until you said the blade steel was 1066. I too have had bad luck with just pinned in scales. When they come out with a 1095, D2, AUS 8, or sandvick steel I’ll be more interested. Thanks for the review.
You should try at least one of their 1066. In testing and review channels, its looks to hold its own in edge retention against Mora Carbon and 1095 knives
It is not 1066 steel actually. It is 65Г (65G) leaf spring steel from soviet era. The reason BPS marked it as 1066 is foreing customets, which will never know about 65G steel.
They are close in compound, but enough different for 65G to be better than 1066, 1075 and 1095 also.
So do not mind about that 1066 cause it is not it, it is 65G, much better steel, especially if heat treated properly.
Mikkie of DBK is in a band called the "Wodan Boys". They are really good! So, Aaron they are even more entertaining then you might have realized! Even some stuff on Spotify!
Honestly, it looks like one of my cheap steak knives.
I wonder if Dutch Bushcraft knives will Design a second knife with improvements?
I live in very harsh condition in the mountains of Northern Quebec and I use my knives a lot. I tried BPS knives and they’re OK entry level knives for someone who goes in the bush from time to time but they are not serious bushman tools. Steel and handle scales are ok at best. Scales are shifting badly.
The top of the spine looks like it was finished with 40 grit on mine
I have a Savage from BPS :D
I could fix the handle scales and sheath tension in 15 minutes. Ya know!
Does it have a 90 degree spine?
Epoxy the scales as they pin them?
As you saw the video, it does have an 80° spine. I don’t know if they epoxy the handles or not.
What are your thoughts on 1066 steel? How does it compare to 80crv2 or mora's carbon steel
It’s good, and seems to do as well as Moras HC. I like 80crv2 more.
I have a Beavercraft knife from Ukraine that has the same type sheath and the same problem.
Dang!
Im not a fan of the wood knob on ferro rod. I will probably grind it smaller. Best
At the price point of the knife I’d pop off the scales and put micarta scales on with bolts. You can get micarta slabs for around 10 to 15 bucks and shape them yourself. At least that’s what I do if I get a knife with scales I don’t like.
Not a bad suggestion I might just do that as a project this year.
I wish the handle scales were hard rubber and bolted. I would gladly eat the costs if they did so.
4 children age 13 to 11 months old survived 40 days in the Amazon jungle after surviving a plane crash with absolutely nothing. Snakes, scorpions, lack of food and water and dangerous animals everywhere and they made it through. It's embarrassing that we need high tech GPS, state-of-the-art art knives backpacks water filters Etc and these little children make us look real bad.
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I have the trc dbk knife and it is awesome but for the money the joker lynx is unbeatable..very similiar design awesome blade takes a beating and holds a good edge easy to sharpen back up for around $100..i cant justify 50$ for this when it just cant compete with joker..the trc on the other hand is a beast but for 400$ it better be
It is hard to compete with joker!
Great knife!
Ive been very tempted by the Lynx, as its saber grind looks great, and strong, and a good value. Probably will buy one, either this or the Lynx
@@J.sh_CDN I reground the joker using leather and sandpaper to be a full height convex..took about two hours but it cuts awesome and still has strength enough to baton if needed..my knives are tools I mod the crap out of them to what I want/need
What about gravity? I don't normally carry my knife up side down.
Yukon cornelius
Much prefer a saber grind to scandi grind
I tend to agree!!
G'day Aaron, the overall design is decent and might be 50 USD, though the fine details do matter.
I have 3 Moras, (Companion, Robust & Pro S), for various applications, (admittedly not on the trail and I wouldn't be relying on this one either) ........anyway, all 3 = same price ........ and without those issues. So, together with steel choice, the value just aint there IMO.
Re: ferro rod loop on sheath; not diss'n them at all, they do make a lotta sense, but personally, I carry a rod and a striker on their own paracord loops, clipped together, then larks headed/cow hitched around my belt, dangles in the groin pocket, incidentally, without putting any weight at the bottom.
This strategy achieves the following outcomes;
The rod and striker may still be separated; permanently strung together is a bloody nuisance in use IMO.
Changing blades i.e sheaths is a non-issue ....either accommodated rod size, or none at all, ..... nor is an inadequate spine for that matter.
The larks head provides 100 % security and the "in pocket" dangle prevents hang ups.
Main thing is, If separated from other tools, (and assuming satisfactory tinder), you're always good to go.
In fact the only sheath I have with an integral loop came standard with the Bravo 1.5 .......... being a convex edge, I'm look'n around for a small ceramic, perhaps diamond, rod to make good use of it, ...... anyone seen something suitable ?.
Cheers Duke.
Thanks Duke for the breakdown and commentary. Always appreciate and look forward to your comments and thoughts!!
@@gideonstactical No worries mate, thanks for saying so. Since I dont do facebook, instagram or others, YT is it for social media .... you're gonna cop all my two bobs worth on this platform ; )