This is a flam. Since you use both hands, two flams. You do it fast, you get a roll. Flam roll. I still wonder where that "buterfly" came from. Well done for the effort to make the video though. I'm sure people will benefit regardless of my objection regarding the name of it.
Ta ss it is called a butterfly roll because of the fluttering of the hands when played quickly. In this case, I have no desire to apply western naming conventions to a non-western instrument, especially because I don't think it would make it any easier to understand. The end result of this roll should sound like a fast and clean single-stroke roll, with each sound of the "flam" evenly spaced.
DarbukaDave I understand the end result and can actually produce it myself. I also agree regarding the origins of the instrument. Just to be clear, unless you quote for a credible source, the "butterfly roll" is a name you came up with, right? I'm just asking out of curiocity, not trying to start an argument or smt. Cheers
Ta ss I suppose I should have been clearer about it in the video. The name comes from two of my teachers. Interestingly, one is Syrian and the other Macedonian and they both used the same name for it. I can't tell you how far back it goes.
It is also interesting that I had a Syrian and a Turkish teacher and never called it that way. And I am from the Macedonia part of Greece and didn't quite heard that from that side either. Neither seen it in any of the dozens of instructional darbuka dvd material out there. Anyway.
Ta ss The Macedonian guy I learned it from is Rroma. He has lived in NYC forever so maybe he picked up the name from somewhere else. Either way, I certainly didn't make it up.
Thank you for your sharing,the bird view is really useful to me, it is really clear that is how to hit the drum !
Good tip about keeping the thumb in line behind the middle finger and rotating around a little on the top hand.
You are so cool and your tutorial is also great, Waiting for more
Nice...Saido uses this a lot - it's good to know how the pros make all those sounds.
Thank you. You are the best teacher in the universe. Theee beeeest:-)
Really the best explanation l have ever seen. you explain very good. l am learning in Argentina, thank you
cheers men!
i couldnt figure this out.
i was trying to find out how to roll!
its very helpful for me.
arigatou
Idk why I'm, asking but do u still use this acc
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Ummm do we need to hit it? i still dont get it do we like wiggle our finger or just our thumb n middle finger only hit it
It's just the back of the thumb (thumbnail) and the middle finger. The other fingers don't touch the head for this one
This is pretty great. Now how about doing this roll with one hand?
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How do you put the ascent? By thumb?
The accent is with both fingers, just done by playing harder
You 're awesome man !
Nice!
Awesome
Thank you very much! :) Great video!!!
thanx!! very helpful!!
Am I the only one watching this in 2019
nope
No.
Yes
This is a flam. Since you use both hands, two flams. You do it fast, you get a roll. Flam roll. I still wonder where that "buterfly" came from. Well done for the effort to make the video though. I'm sure people will benefit regardless of my objection regarding the name of it.
Ta ss it is called a butterfly roll because of the fluttering of the hands when played quickly. In this case, I have no desire to apply western naming conventions to a non-western instrument, especially because I don't think it would make it any easier to understand. The end result of this roll should sound like a fast and clean single-stroke roll, with each sound of the "flam" evenly spaced.
DarbukaDave I understand the end result and can actually produce it myself. I also agree regarding the origins of the instrument. Just to be clear, unless you quote for a credible source, the "butterfly roll" is a name you came up with, right? I'm just asking out of curiocity, not trying to start an argument or smt. Cheers
Ta ss I suppose I should have been clearer about it in the video. The name comes from two of my teachers. Interestingly, one is Syrian and the other Macedonian and they both used the same name for it. I can't tell you how far back it goes.
It is also interesting that I had a Syrian and a Turkish teacher and never called it that way. And I am from the Macedonia part of Greece and didn't quite heard that from that side either. Neither seen it in any of the dozens of instructional darbuka dvd material out there. Anyway.
Ta ss The Macedonian guy I learned it from is Rroma. He has lived in NYC forever so maybe he picked up the name from somewhere else. Either way, I certainly didn't make it up.
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