For those interested, I made some visual comparisons that relate to Wall Kicks, which you can get to here: Wall Kick vs. Normal Slide: twitter.com/LBBubba/status/1617406086763671558?s=20&t=VVN8MWSMExjWd8k5d-3QIQ Jumping around the corner (Sprint vs. No Sprint in the replies): twitter.com/LBBubba/status/1617759727475388423?s=20&t=VVN8MWSMExjWd8k5d-3QIQ
this is so cool, would be awesome to see this in competitive eventually if they dont patch it. I would also love some map breakdowns on where this is possible.
@@ivanaviNiebla I’d say pros are fond of it, actually. 😅 It can give a subtle advantage if done right and since it’s so limited & situational, it balances it. Could have some risk to it as well with overcommitting a push.
Great video man. Love the time you guys took to tell the story, show applications and even finishing off with a little rhyme shows some great craftsmanship on your part. I'll look forward to having a go and testing viability in mm.
Thanks, man! Yeah we wanted to show what’s involved in it and hopefully make it more understandable & relatable with those examples. Glad you enjoyed it, haha 😊
Almost all walls that don't look plain are combinations of props and accents in forge maps. These can be done across many areas of Empyrian for example.
So glad that you liked it!! It means a ton coming from you! ❤ Halo's movement tech might be far from Titanfall's/Apex's, but we're really fighting to keep at least *some* spirit alive. It's rough out here, haha
Wait so they decided to alienate almost every casual player with the advanced movement mechanics, but then proceed to remove the actual depth it provides to the gameplay for advanced players? Fucking why?
I recently had a game where I accidentally got a significant boost off a clamber. I came down on a ledge and somehow got like a half clamber animation followed by a big boost in forward momentum. I'd never seen anything like it until I saw your Over Curb demonstration, and I'm wondering if that's what I did. But I definitely had a brief clamber animation and it seemed like the boost was significantly larger than you show. I still don't even know what combination of buttons I pressed that made it happen. Thanks for sharing this. It's cool that we're still learning new tech in this game.
Sounds to me like you might’ve done an overcurb. The clamber animation you saw could’ve been caused by a desync in which you clambered from your client-side POV, but server-side the game read that you had enough height to get on the platform without clambering, thus allowing you to slide immediately upon landing. It would’ve updated during the clamber animation you saw for you to see that slide boost.
I just tried this today like right now and love it . Thanks so much man for figuring stuff like this out would love to see more spots in a video with how to hit these wall kicks Still learning the jump wall kick But with the slide wall kick I just run at the wall like you say . Then I hit jump and crouch at the same time and works fine . Maybe cause im using da paddles idk Miss snap sliding but I get why it’s gone but still miss it
No problem! Glad you’re enjoying it! 😊 Whatever feeling works for you to do it, I don’t use paddles tho so I can’t speak much on that. I wouldn’t be so bummed about the removal of snap sliding if they proved to have evaluated it properly and/or if they had more jumps in the game. We rarely get nice things tho.. 😕
@@xwarxdogx6664 That’s because it has to be done off a small box on Live Fire. If the edge of the prop is too close to the wall (which it will be with that box), it’ll be harder to obtain a prop ghost since you’ll need to land cleanly on the prop *before* hitting the wall. I wouldn’t recommend trying it in a swift, flowing motion; instead, take it slow by first landing on the box, then crouch walk into the wall, stand up, sprint, and *then* try to perform the wall kick. Hope that helps! :)
@@LBBubba 😄😄 i think he recommended you to me way back actually. It was this unbelievable sniping spectacle from halo 5 you put on. You guys are all nasty at halo. I kinda fell off during Infinite, it hasn't grabbed me like 5's multiplayer. I was trying to break into Onyx and gave up when infinite came out, I don't like the ranked multiplayer at all now, so different
Dang man I did this on accident like a few weeks ago and have been trying to figure out how, now I know what it’s named and how to do it, thanks a lot man sub earned.
Holy shit that’s sick! Guess I got a new trick I gotta learn. Would love to see more spots you find on any of the other maps. So you showed that you can Wall Kick into a jump but is it somehow possible to Wall Kick into a proper Drop Slide?
Nah, not a proper one. Sliding resets your sprint, so if you wall kick, you won’t be able to slide again unless you sprint on the ground. That would be so cool tho! :o
Sick tutorial! I can wall kick fairly consistently now, but I'm having trouble with over curbs. I either get the speed boost with no second jump, or do an over jump with a tiny slide. Do you have any tips/know of any good tutorials? Thanks!
Overcurbs are quite difficult and tight on the timing, but it’s usually good to try to time your second jump *immediately* after the slide. You can’t really predict when you’ll be hitting a speedy slide, so you just have to trust that you’ll get it and you’ll see the reward if you jump in time. As for getting the slide, I’d recommend not to wait for “feeling” the edge. Doing that would depend on a reactionary input, which isn’t practical with how short of an input window overcurbs have. Attempt to slide when you *expect* to catch the edge, even if you’re slightly early on the timing you can hit a decent slide. Hope that helps! :)
Hello, i came across your channel recently and read some of your tweets that you might quit so thank you for all of your movement tech videos! I identify myself as a competetive movement player and i often over use skilljumps and movement techs in ranked, so im a bit sad that i didnt really understand how the prop ghost works and if its the same thing as the blocker jump that was talked about a lot when the pit remake released and also how to consistently overcurb. I dont really know anyone else who does this kinda stuff and where i could learn these things but yes im sometimes really frustrated with the game as well. And also have you used the supernadejump where you jump after the explosion for more height? I got a really nice overkill by supernadejumping to top control from bottom control in recharge
Hey, I really appreciate you coming by! :D Blocker Jumps are Prop Ghosts, just specifically with an invisible blocker as the prop, no different than if you were to use a fusion coil as your prop (it won’t be called a Coil Jump suddenly, unless your goal is to isolate it to that prop). When you say “supernadejump,” I think you’re simply referring to a Nade Jump. They used to be very doable and accessible to most players, but 343 wanted to get rid of them in Infinite. After backlash, they reimplemented grenade knockback, but nade jumps are extremely tight on position & timing now. Super satisfying when performed right tho! I’m glad you have such an interest in jump tech, it’s actually refreshing to see someone like you around. I wouldn’t ever want the movement/jump community in Halo to die, but there needs to be a welcoming environment that encourages that behavior and not a destructive one that actively works against players & creators. I hope you can find sparks of interest for pursuing your creativity, and maybe even spark that in others as well. Stay well! :)
Hey, thanks for replying Okay i was just confused beacause the blocker jump at least according to this one tutorial i found needed a crouch or/and a sprint input in between the doublejump
@@TreasAre23 Crouch walking into the wall and then standing is usually a sure-fire way to obtain a prop ghost, but it’s not necessary if you hit the wall with some force (which is how sprint could be your way of doing it too). 👌
Can i ask you how you did the prop ghost jump on detachment in Harmony? Ive gotten quite consistent with the bazaar prop ghost to spnkr that you showed in Dreamland but cant figure the detachment window jum out
@@TreasAre23 That one’s super tricky to get a prop ghost with, probably due to the steepness of the blocker’s tilt. I’d suggest to keep your movement on it to a minimum by crouch walking into the wall, then standing, and slowing your movement into it. It’ll be difficult regardless, but that can help lessen the amount of ramping you’ll do, which would help. I’m happy to hear you’re hitting those other ones though! :D Let me know if you get the Detachment one at some point too
Now I see why infinite feels so arcade for me, no any interactive objects in the map with good physics, just decorations that breaks if you touch it and also no assassinations, the rival just die if you slap his back
@@xx_amongus_xx6987 Yeah, but the assassination were something that for me was a total game changer (talking about the visual presentation), it was an addition, an upgrade in the same way as the EMP of the plasma pistol or the playable elites, those additions made me feel that every game was better than the previous one
I don’t have one for my community or a public one dedicated to jumping, but I know of one you’d probably be interested in joining called HTJ, although I’m virtually inactive there. I might start my own at some point, but I don’t think it’s too necessary to get one all set up just yet, not unless there’s a significant community. Hmm… 🤔
Actually hope this can be patched since forge is definitely our future haha. Will be annoying to pull off and verse consistently, yet necessary. Those escapes and initiations are just too fast in areas that don't have other drop slide tech nearby.
I’m all ears to hear how it’s game breaking. It’s a 20% (or so) speed boost around only a few walls across the entire game and requires precision to do… 🤨
@LB Bubba 20% is huge lmao. Refer to your sniping clip in this very video and the clip of using the tech to run away effortlessly to see why its broken. Unintended and broken techniques should be patched.
@@thatoneswarmdrone6409 A 20% speed increase across the span of 1 second isn’t that huge, realistically. If you’d like a visual comparison, I showed this on Twitter: twitter.com/lbbubba/status/1617406086763671558?s=46&t=qgCEw-JGOLy3Gp5vVcRiDA Also, the clips in this vid are for demonstration purposes and proof of concepts. You could get sniped around a corner very similarly without this trick. As far as a defensive play, it’s not so “effortless” with its precision & the pressure of combat. It’s also extremely restrictive in where it can be done, and in that example, running toward the opposite side of the map is a positional risk in and of itself. Get a full understanding of this before being so quick to assume it’s game breaking, that’s just poor judgment and yields bad decision making. If it’s shown/proven to be too available, imbalanced, and/or powerful, then it’s fair to conclude that.
@@LBBubba "A 20% speed increase across the span of 1 second isn’t that huge, realistically." Then you are living in a delusion. That is absolutely a life or death difference, its a get out of jail free card. "You could get sniped around a corner very similarly without this trick." Name a situation without the use of this exploit where you get sniped by someone going hypersonic around a corner. As you said at 2:47, "What am I supposed to do in this scenario." Your own words betray you. "Get a full understanding of this before being so quick to assume it’s game breaking, that’s just poor judgment and yields bad decision making." I have 20+ years of experience with Halo as a whole. This isnt Halo, this doesnt belong in Halo, speed exploits are a disease and ruin the flow of the game. End of discussion.
@@thatoneswarmdrone6409 Maybe it would be more of a Get Out of Jail Free card if you could draw it whenever you're in need of it, but again, you're extremely restricted to where you can perform it and shouldn't take any damage when doing it... and even that's a big reach to say. The speed boost you get from jumping out with a Wall Kick is practically the difference between sprinting and not, so this can be closely compared to sprinting for 1 second vs. standard running. If that's the difference between life or death, then it sounds like you have an issue with the overall gameplay, not exclusively Wall Kicks. I can put together another visual comparison to show that it's not as significant as you're thinking - it's not "hypersonic speed," not anywhere close. Again, someone sprinting + jumping around a corner for a surprise snipe is relatively the same as them doing a Wall Kick + jump, I merely gave a reaction for a scenario like such. Your final point is an opinion, even based on your time with the game. Making conclusions on a newly surfaced movement trick should be based on knowledge within the specific game itself, formed by analyzing the trick with time & experience, not limited to looking at past Halo titles. I can assure you I've put quality effort into analyzing Wall Kicks and can comfortably say that they won't have negative effects in your matches.
No offense, I know you guys love this sort of thing, but I really hope it gets patched out. Looks gameplay breaking and annoying to experience. I don't care if competitive matches still have it in the game, but this would be ridiculous in casual play.
Looks can be deceiving, especially at first glance. I provided a couple comparisons in the pinned comment & description to get more perspective on it. It’s not as bad as you think, trust me. :) Also, implementing Wall Kicks in gameplay is similar to mastering a strafe, learning to repulse defensively, or honing into other available skills. Just because it exists in the game doesn’t mean it’ll automatically be present in casual play. It’s niche and fair in its respective aspect of the game.
Enhance Movement Techniques, Button Combos, Super Jumps, etc are toxic things that need to disappear in Halo and never return. All this does is split the community even more which makes people not want to play the game when they come in contact with it. These kinds of things are usually counted as video game exploits which are against the Xbox Community Standards and in the long run, could get your account banned.
Oh that's cringe. Well at least we know why the game faces heavy criticisms. Theyre played by nerds who spend their time developing new levels of elitism lol
True, but I had a hard time resisting when it's been a trend that directly affects the content I make and the experience I (and many others) have with the game. It's not fun having effort wasted. 😕
For those interested, I made some visual comparisons that relate to Wall Kicks, which you can get to here:
Wall Kick vs. Normal Slide: twitter.com/LBBubba/status/1617406086763671558?s=20&t=VVN8MWSMExjWd8k5d-3QIQ
Jumping around the corner (Sprint vs. No Sprint in the replies): twitter.com/LBBubba/status/1617759727475388423?s=20&t=VVN8MWSMExjWd8k5d-3QIQ
this is so cool, would be awesome to see this in competitive eventually if they dont patch it. I would also love some map breakdowns on where this is possible.
I don't think it's too common around maps, but I could for sure look around to help! :)
This looks like the kind of thing competitive players don't like as it can be very broken and situational :\
@@ivanaviNiebla I’d say pros are fond of it, actually. 😅 It can give a subtle advantage if done right and since it’s so limited & situational, it balances it. Could have some risk to it as well with overcommitting a push.
This technique is so satisfying and a ton of fun!
It is, isn't it!! :D
Oh no, something super cool was found! Now I have to bottle up anxiety about whether or not they’ll patch it lol.
Very cool video, I love it.
Incredible !! Loved this video
343 " ohh no not this guy again giving us more work, we have to patch this now"
Thanks!! And yeah, pretty much… T-T
Great video man. Love the time you guys took to tell the story, show applications and even finishing off with a little rhyme shows some great craftsmanship on your part. I'll look forward to having a go and testing viability in mm.
Thanks, man! Yeah we wanted to show what’s involved in it and hopefully make it more understandable & relatable with those examples. Glad you enjoyed it, haha 😊
The double jump is cool. The wall kick is so niche (with just slight payoff) that I don't think many players would bother executing it.
Almost all walls that don't look plain are combinations of props and accents in forge maps. These can be done across many areas of Empyrian for example.
Phenomenally presented and edited 👍
So glad that you liked it!! It means a ton coming from you! ❤ Halo's movement tech might be far from Titanfall's/Apex's, but we're really fighting to keep at least *some* spirit alive. It's rough out here, haha
Gonna go try this in a custom game right now. Thank you and very informative video as always
“Grab your sticks or keys and get your kicks with these.”
BARZ!🔥🔥
Thanks! 😂 I wasn’t sure how to feel about it, but I said it anyway, hahaha
Haha. Great video man you earned a sub!
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Wait so they decided to alienate almost every casual player with the advanced movement mechanics, but then proceed to remove the actual depth it provides to the gameplay for advanced players? Fucking why?
I recently had a game where I accidentally got a significant boost off a clamber. I came down on a ledge and somehow got like a half clamber animation followed by a big boost in forward momentum. I'd never seen anything like it until I saw your Over Curb demonstration, and I'm wondering if that's what I did. But I definitely had a brief clamber animation and it seemed like the boost was significantly larger than you show. I still don't even know what combination of buttons I pressed that made it happen. Thanks for sharing this. It's cool that we're still learning new tech in this game.
Sounds to me like you might’ve done an overcurb. The clamber animation you saw could’ve been caused by a desync in which you clambered from your client-side POV, but server-side the game read that you had enough height to get on the platform without clambering, thus allowing you to slide immediately upon landing. It would’ve updated during the clamber animation you saw for you to see that slide boost.
@@LBBubba That makes so much sense. I bet that's what it was. Thanks!
Halfway through the video, I was thinking "cool but doesn't seem that practical imo". Then I saw the pov of the other guy. Damn that's quick
hopefully this can make its way to @shyway and he can send it out to the masses with your name plastered on it! Nice work!
Very interesting... would be cool to see a followup video with all the locations around different maps that you've found it to work!
I'll scan through the maps and if I find enough or anything showcase-worthy, I'll make a vid at some point. 👍
I was looking for new games to play and saw this and the game looks fun with movement
I've been looking for the "kick against the wall" effect from Mario 64 in halo infinite with the repulsor but i think it won't happen.
Wow cool!! I'll try this out soon :) Keep it up
Another fantastic discovery!
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Absolutely content and movement I've never seen before! Great job! This is sick.
I'll never be able to do this, but still amazing to see!
Don’t have to do it to be amazed by it! 😉 Thanks Ducain
oooh baby wake up new movement tech just dropped
Liking this video, I'm going to rewatch later to implement this in my games
Heck yeah! 🔥
bro this gave me life again
This is actually super fun
never subbed so quickly
Greatly appreciate it, thanks!! ❤
Movement tech GOAT
Love the movement!
I just tried this today like right now and love it . Thanks so much man for figuring stuff like this out would love to see more spots in a video with how to hit these wall kicks
Still learning the jump wall kick
But with the slide wall kick I just run at the wall like you say . Then I hit jump and crouch at the same time and works fine . Maybe cause im using da paddles idk
Miss snap sliding but I get why it’s gone but still miss it
No problem! Glad you’re enjoying it! 😊 Whatever feeling works for you to do it, I don’t use paddles tho so I can’t speak much on that.
I wouldn’t be so bummed about the removal of snap sliding if they proved to have evaluated it properly and/or if they had more jumps in the game. We rarely get nice things tho.. 😕
@@LBBubba how do you do the wall kick in live fire . It seems way easier on pit imo
@@xwarxdogx6664 That’s because it has to be done off a small box on Live Fire. If the edge of the prop is too close to the wall (which it will be with that box), it’ll be harder to obtain a prop ghost since you’ll need to land cleanly on the prop *before* hitting the wall. I wouldn’t recommend trying it in a swift, flowing motion; instead, take it slow by first landing on the box, then crouch walk into the wall, stand up, sprint, and *then* try to perform the wall kick.
Hope that helps! :)
@@LBBubba yeah also noticed that box gets naded out of the corner so it’s not that useful unlike the pit wall kicks so far seem useful
Sick video bruh, nice movement.
Wow this is crazy cool, instant sub and all that.
Some nice meta game action here. Hey Shyway! You watching?
He’s seen it 😉
@@LBBubba 😄😄 i think he recommended you to me way back actually. It was this unbelievable sniping spectacle from halo 5 you put on. You guys are all nasty at halo. I kinda fell off during Infinite, it hasn't grabbed me like 5's multiplayer. I was trying to break into Onyx and gave up when infinite came out, I don't like the ranked multiplayer at all now, so different
@@mav2553 Yeah Infinite’s missed the target for a ton of people…
Really thankful to hear that though and glad to have you on board! ❤️
Y'all are so talented and dedicated to a game no one cares about.
😂😅
Dang man I did this on accident like a few weeks ago and have been trying to figure out how, now I know what it’s named and how to do it, thanks a lot man sub earned.
Lots of exciting stuff deep beneath the layers, and thanks dude! 💪
So sick guys! I’m about to master this thanks for the new tech boys!
You got it, bro!! As long as the game lets us, you can count on us to keep the creative expression coming! 👊
Holy shit that’s sick!
Guess I got a new trick I gotta learn.
Would love to see more spots you find on any of the other maps.
So you showed that you can Wall Kick into a jump but is it somehow possible to Wall Kick into a proper Drop Slide?
Nah, not a proper one. Sliding resets your sprint, so if you wall kick, you won’t be able to slide again unless you sprint on the ground. That would be so cool tho! :o
Have to give this a shot
Sick tutorial! I can wall kick fairly consistently now, but I'm having trouble with over curbs. I either get the speed boost with no second jump, or do an over jump with a tiny slide. Do you have any tips/know of any good tutorials? Thanks!
Overcurbs are quite difficult and tight on the timing, but it’s usually good to try to time your second jump *immediately* after the slide. You can’t really predict when you’ll be hitting a speedy slide, so you just have to trust that you’ll get it and you’ll see the reward if you jump in time.
As for getting the slide, I’d recommend not to wait for “feeling” the edge. Doing that would depend on a reactionary input, which isn’t practical with how short of an input window overcurbs have. Attempt to slide when you *expect* to catch the edge, even if you’re slightly early on the timing you can hit a decent slide.
Hope that helps! :)
@@LBBubba Definitely! Thank you so much. Looking forward to more tech :)
@@MyTioSpider Got some fun stuff we’ll be sharing soon, so stay tuned! 😉
nice i’ll definitely try this out
Awesome! I will buy 6 of them!
You can do it without prop ghost. You need 120+fps though.
I can’t test that personally, but I’d love to know if that’s true 👀
Hello, i came across your channel recently and read some of your tweets that you might quit so thank you for all of your movement tech videos! I identify myself as a competetive movement player and i often over use skilljumps and movement techs in ranked, so im a bit sad that i didnt really understand how the prop ghost works and if its the same thing as the blocker jump that was talked about a lot when the pit remake released and also how to consistently overcurb. I dont really know anyone else who does this kinda stuff and where i could learn these things but yes im sometimes really frustrated with the game as well. And also have you used the supernadejump where you jump after the explosion for more height? I got a really nice overkill by supernadejumping to top control from bottom control in recharge
Hey, I really appreciate you coming by! :D
Blocker Jumps are Prop Ghosts, just specifically with an invisible blocker as the prop, no different than if you were to use a fusion coil as your prop (it won’t be called a Coil Jump suddenly, unless your goal is to isolate it to that prop).
When you say “supernadejump,” I think you’re simply referring to a Nade Jump. They used to be very doable and accessible to most players, but 343 wanted to get rid of them in Infinite. After backlash, they reimplemented grenade knockback, but nade jumps are extremely tight on position & timing now. Super satisfying when performed right tho!
I’m glad you have such an interest in jump tech, it’s actually refreshing to see someone like you around. I wouldn’t ever want the movement/jump community in Halo to die, but there needs to be a welcoming environment that encourages that behavior and not a destructive one that actively works against players & creators. I hope you can find sparks of interest for pursuing your creativity, and maybe even spark that in others as well. Stay well! :)
Hey, thanks for replying
Okay i was just confused beacause the blocker jump at least according to this one tutorial i found needed a crouch or/and a sprint input in between the doublejump
@@TreasAre23 Crouch walking into the wall and then standing is usually a sure-fire way to obtain a prop ghost, but it’s not necessary if you hit the wall with some force (which is how sprint could be your way of doing it too). 👌
Can i ask you how you did the prop ghost jump on detachment in Harmony? Ive gotten quite consistent with the bazaar prop ghost to spnkr that you showed in Dreamland but cant figure the detachment window jum out
@@TreasAre23 That one’s super tricky to get a prop ghost with, probably due to the steepness of the blocker’s tilt. I’d suggest to keep your movement on it to a minimum by crouch walking into the wall, then standing, and slowing your movement into it. It’ll be difficult regardless, but that can help lessen the amount of ramping you’ll do, which would help.
I’m happy to hear you’re hitting those other ones though! :D Let me know if you get the Detachment one at some point too
This is really awesome ! I’ll give it a month until it’s removed lol
THE GOAAAAAAAT
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2:47 annnnd now 343 has deleted it
Pffft, I hope not 😅 A simple sprint+jump around the corner wouldn’t be so much different, especially with that spot-on aim.
There are like 6K players for Halo at this point. Patching this would just alienate the few people left enjoying the game
Facts i match the same group of 200 people consistently the last 3 months
Now I see why infinite feels so arcade for me, no any interactive objects in the map with good physics, just decorations that breaks if you touch it and also no assassinations, the rival just die if you slap his back
1 shotting someone in the back is a thing in every Halo
@@xx_amongus_xx6987 Yeah, but the assassination were something that for me was a total game changer (talking about the visual presentation), it was an addition, an upgrade in the same way as the EMP of the plasma pistol or the playable elites, those additions made me feel that every game was better than the previous one
You have a discord ? I also love doing jumps and movement tactics in halo , always trying to find more people to chill and do jumps with
I don’t have one for my community or a public one dedicated to jumping, but I know of one you’d probably be interested in joining called HTJ, although I’m virtually inactive there. I might start my own at some point, but I don’t think it’s too necessary to get one all set up just yet, not unless there’s a significant community. Hmm… 🤔
Is there a speed boost occurring that I’m not seeing?
It's getting tricky.
Thank you
0:06 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like this is gonna be patched out as soon as people figure out it needs practice.
heck yes, please don't patch
Actually hope this can be patched since forge is definitely our future haha. Will be annoying to pull off and verse consistently, yet necessary. Those escapes and initiations are just too fast in areas that don't have other drop slide tech nearby.
PLEASE DONT PATCH 343 THANK YOU
Don't show this to N8V red 👀
*negative comment about 343*
lol
Halo: Call of TitanFall 🙄🤦
Ooooh
New bug fix coming tomorrow 😂
Probably next month, I doubt they would care enough to patch it fast
343, stop nerfing skill gap. nerf aim assist instead
Aim assist has screwed up my games more than it has helped
This is gonna get patched shame too cause its cool
Subbed. Thanks for the info mate.
Thanks for the support! Glad to make this content! 😊
Sweet Jesus have my fzczkng sub
Yeah, I hope this gets patched. This just isnt Halo. Only time Ill agree with 343 on something, this stuff breaks the game.
I’m all ears to hear how it’s game breaking. It’s a 20% (or so) speed boost around only a few walls across the entire game and requires precision to do… 🤨
@LB Bubba 20% is huge lmao. Refer to your sniping clip in this very video and the clip of using the tech to run away effortlessly to see why its broken. Unintended and broken techniques should be patched.
@@thatoneswarmdrone6409 A 20% speed increase across the span of 1 second isn’t that huge, realistically. If you’d like a visual comparison, I showed this on Twitter: twitter.com/lbbubba/status/1617406086763671558?s=46&t=qgCEw-JGOLy3Gp5vVcRiDA
Also, the clips in this vid are for demonstration purposes and proof of concepts. You could get sniped around a corner very similarly without this trick. As far as a defensive play, it’s not so “effortless” with its precision & the pressure of combat. It’s also extremely restrictive in where it can be done, and in that example, running toward the opposite side of the map is a positional risk in and of itself.
Get a full understanding of this before being so quick to assume it’s game breaking, that’s just poor judgment and yields bad decision making. If it’s shown/proven to be too available, imbalanced, and/or powerful, then it’s fair to conclude that.
@@LBBubba "A 20% speed increase across the span of 1 second isn’t that huge, realistically." Then you are living in a delusion. That is absolutely a life or death difference, its a get out of jail free card.
"You could get sniped around a corner very similarly without this trick." Name a situation without the use of this exploit where you get sniped by someone going hypersonic around a corner. As you said at 2:47, "What am I supposed to do in this scenario." Your own words betray you.
"Get a full understanding of this before being so quick to assume it’s game breaking, that’s just poor judgment and yields bad decision making." I have 20+ years of experience with Halo as a whole. This isnt Halo, this doesnt belong in Halo, speed exploits are a disease and ruin the flow of the game. End of discussion.
@@thatoneswarmdrone6409 Maybe it would be more of a Get Out of Jail Free card if you could draw it whenever you're in need of it, but again, you're extremely restricted to where you can perform it and shouldn't take any damage when doing it... and even that's a big reach to say.
The speed boost you get from jumping out with a Wall Kick is practically the difference between sprinting and not, so this can be closely compared to sprinting for 1 second vs. standard running. If that's the difference between life or death, then it sounds like you have an issue with the overall gameplay, not exclusively Wall Kicks.
I can put together another visual comparison to show that it's not as significant as you're thinking - it's not "hypersonic speed," not anywhere close. Again, someone sprinting + jumping around a corner for a surprise snipe is relatively the same as them doing a Wall Kick + jump, I merely gave a reaction for a scenario like such.
Your final point is an opinion, even based on your time with the game. Making conclusions on a newly surfaced movement trick should be based on knowledge within the specific game itself, formed by analyzing the trick with time & experience, not limited to looking at past Halo titles. I can assure you I've put quality effort into analyzing Wall Kicks and can comfortably say that they won't have negative effects in your matches.
People still play this?
No offense, I know you guys love this sort of thing, but I really hope it gets patched out. Looks gameplay breaking and annoying to experience. I don't care if competitive matches still have it in the game, but this would be ridiculous in casual play.
Looks can be deceiving, especially at first glance. I provided a couple comparisons in the pinned comment & description to get more perspective on it. It’s not as bad as you think, trust me. :)
Also, implementing Wall Kicks in gameplay is similar to mastering a strafe, learning to repulse defensively, or honing into other available skills. Just because it exists in the game doesn’t mean it’ll automatically be present in casual play. It’s niche and fair in its respective aspect of the game.
Enhance Movement Techniques, Button Combos, Super Jumps, etc are toxic things that need to disappear in Halo and never return. All this does is split the community even more which makes people not want to play the game when they come in contact with it.
These kinds of things are usually counted as video game exploits which are against the Xbox Community Standards and in the long run, could get your account banned.
LMAO......practicing movement in a game that exists off of actual map geometry is toxic and a ban-able offense?
I’m just stop playing that shii
Everybody wants to discover some weak ass technique that they hope gets adopted by the pro community so they can feel good about themselves🤦🏽♂️
Oh that's cringe.
Well at least we know why the game faces heavy criticisms. Theyre played by nerds who spend their time developing new levels of elitism lol
exploring movement tech in a game is elitism?
Could have done without you sounding so whiny at the start.
True, but I had a hard time resisting when it's been a trend that directly affects the content I make and the experience I (and many others) have with the game. It's not fun having effort wasted. 😕
He had a perfectly good reason to...
Could do without you being a snarky dick in the comments, but here we are
Not a deal to concern or even be vocal about
This is great!
Great video, looks interesting to try and apply
@Shyway what do you think mate?
Also comment for the algorithm
i'll be honest, it doesn't seem very viable