Its not about the spelling anymore, in my opinion. They are both in the wrong for it being missed spelled, cool. But that doesn't change the fact that Sprigs got on Tiktok and talked about a situation tha shouldn't be on Tiktok in the first place. Sis, why tf are you sobbing on Tiktok? Did you think the client wouldn't see it? You're a professional and Tiktok isn't a diary. And from what I've seen in Lai's video.....Sprigs lied. Which makes it so much worse
My thoughts exactly, going to tiktok to cry about the situation just made her walk right into her own down fall. Making this a public matter was so pointless. Although lowkey i am kinda glad Sprigs was dumb enough to do this, she's getting her karma and hopefully this is giving Lai a bit of justice after literally having her arm mutilated.
And regardless of who is at fault, the client is the only one who has a right to be breaking down and crying. The least the artist could do is give the money back and apologize for a crappy situation that is on the client's body forever. I can't imagine not triple checking... It takes MINUTE to check the work that will last a LIFETIME. I have extremely good spelling, I would still check! Some people really need a little OCD to compensate for a lack of competence I guess... And let's just be honest, I know a lot of people who have dubious spelling skills, and they KNOW IT. How can you be so confident if you can't spell CONQUERS. I would bet good money you've never used the word "concours" in a sentence. Gahhhhhhh
The moment I, a black guy, saw that the client was black I knew this was the angry black woman accusation all over again. The client has done nothing wrong and deserved so much better.
I agree. And the client was nothing but fair and calm, took the responsibility for things she could have done better. I also think Spriggs has that absurd idea that brown skin needs a heavier hand. Wrong and racist
Blaming everything on racism is such a weak take. It’s like you actually think that anytime a BP, specifically a BW is criticized or even insulted, IT MUST BE -Ism 🙄 Pretty convenient…..you automatically put a group on a pedestal, who can’t even be questioned. Anyone who buys into this mentality is lost.
@@isitoveryet9525everything isn't racism but the way Spriggs portrayed it was. Also the way she did the tattoo is also racism. Racists tend to believe that black skin is different from white skin and requires a firmer pressure. She clearly dug deep on the tattoo
Spriggs fed that stereotype when she claimed the client called her a dumb b-word. The client said she would never be aggressive as a black woman in a predominantly white state. She was texting her friend and said that in text. If Spriggs hadn't looked over her shoulder she wouldn't have known it was a thought
Same...a tattoo artist scarred my arm pretty bad and it took a year to heal then my new artist had to go over it 3x to make it look better...that was no fun 😢
the cherry on the cake is that if spriggs hadn't done that first video and cried us a river like that, nothing would have happened. I don't think Lai would have gone public, she probably would have just dealt with the messed up tattoo some other way, maybe gotten a cover-up at some point in the future. Spriggs was throwing herself a pity-party and it blew up in her face
whenever a black woman stands up for herself, she’s called “disrespectful” or “aggressive.” on top of being a lazy liar, spriggs needs some sensitivity and bias training.
it really adds to it that spriggs is sobbing about how this black woman was so disrespectful and awful and evil like. it's fucked up she's using her white tears here
She even was so chill about it and the artist didn't need to take it to social media. I think people now forgot they can solve problems privately without getting half of the world involved and the customer was more than willing to cooperate.
As someone with dark skin and tattoos it’s nice to have someone out here pointing out how hard some artists work into dark skin without taking the care to consider the differences needed. Unfortunately when I first started getting tattooed I didn’t realise I was scarring as a result of heavy handed work. I now make sure to research extensively an artist before I get a tattoo even if they’re very talented or popular and have luckily encountered artists now who take the care to see how my other tattoos have healed and take care to not over work the skin whilst also maintaining enough contrast for them to last. Sorry for the long comment but wanted to just add my experience as well 😅
My artist told me about one client, a woman with darker skin, who came to him for a cover-up. The cover-up was to cover a massive, scarred patch of ink where an artist had worked the skin way, way too much to the point where tattooing over it was no longer viable. It sucked to hear :(
I have had a couple of black friends ask me where I got my tattoos so that they could get their first tattoo there as well. I have the skin color of a ghost, and according to a dermatologist, my skin heals from scarring unnaturally well. Since most people don't know all that much about tattoos going in (I sure as hell didn't, and some of my tattoos definitely suffered), they didn't know you should ideally get an artist with experience tattooing darker skin tones. Colors will look like shit, and of they are too heavy handed, it will scar pretty badly, like you mentioned. In my experience, most POC have taken that pretty well despite it obviously not being my lived experience. But sometimes there is a little bit of awkwardness at first. And that is really shitty, because tattoo artists should be trained to do a good job on all skin tones, plus people who are on the older side, different skin sensitivities/conditions, ect. Anyone should be able to walk in anywhere. Unless a place has only white people for miles and miles and you are only going to have white clients, I guess? But if that's the case, either 1) still learn at tattoo conventions (not by destroying some poor soul's tattoo who has no idea) or 2) never take a client whose skin tone you don't know how to fucking work with. An artist has messed up my skin before, and I can't imagine what would happen on anyone else, tbh. Cuz I sit like a rock too, and I take really good care of my tattoos while they heal.
More context: North Dakota is a red state in the Midwest and black people are a small minority group in the region. She has good reason to be concerned about causing public commotion over the tattoo. Can't tell what town this happened in, anyone know?
Dickinson? Shit. That's the main oil boom town in ND for context. Feel bad for the client, in that region it'd be so difficult to find a tattoo artist who isn't extremely racist or has any focus on POC clients. There are a lot of VERY pro-Trump and racist people around Dickinson, even more than other parts of the state because of the oilfield industry. She might have to travel hours away to find a good tattoo artist for her. Tough situation. I've never gotten a tattoo in ND so no recommendations
The minute I heard it mentioned they were in North Dakota I was like 🤨 I’m only halfway through the video, but my spidey senses immediately felt there were potentially racist undertones to this story. The fact the artist accused the client of being aggressive and disrespectful from the beginning was a dog whistle for the framing of the client as a “mad black woman.” I absolutely hate that for her. She has every reason to be angry about that tattoo that looks like a scratcher did it in someone’s kitchen. It’s known that women of color are often stereotyped as being aggressive, and Lauren is correct that a reputation for being difficult could absolutely follow the client around the area. There are so few POCs in remote states like ND that it makes total sense to me that race would play a factor in this story.
@amandamarklandyoga my thoughts exactly. It is an incredibly important aspect to point out. Especially immediately painting her as disrespectful and aggressive.
first red flag when the tatto artist was crying in the video- she said she hates when she does this and she has screwed up tattoos a couple times before
@@Choosetoonebut multiple times…MULTIPLE, I get having accidents from time to time , mistakes happen ,. But she’s done this to multiple clients , A professional having a mistake time to time is alright but once they start getting it wrong a numerous amount of times , maybe she needs to look into extra training or self improvement, because once this happened multiple times , this isn’t a mistake , this is a pattern . A pattern of mistakes IS a red flag, she NEEDS to atleast maybe to try to improve, even if it’s just extra practice and communication skills. Cause her level of unprofessionally then going on TikTok to cry about it, it’s ridiculous and she needs to be constructively criticized, not bullied, but constructively criticized so she can learn how to be a proper tattoo artist and give her clients the best care Other than going on the internet lying about HER client who wasn’t even THAT mad at her orginally, THIS ARTIST MADE IT A BIG DEAL. The poor girl even agreed that she’d partially to blame , and the artist blew it out of hand , Mam needs communication skills
@@Choosetoone the client wasn't even tripping over the misspelling outside of a text they sent their friend, they were cool with having it fixed and acknowledged their fault in the spelling, the issue is everything else. how it was handled on the artists end. She ran to tiktok and made public what was a private situation, unprofessional. Also how many times do you need to fuck up someone's tat before you uh....idk? keep a dictionary at your side? multiple tats misspelled and fucked up? to add, proper nouns like names etc should be on the client but regular ass words? You as an adult cant spell conquer ?
this, it happens with indigenous women and femmes too. as a mixed indigenous person myself i feel so sorry for the client she’s been so much calmer patient and more mature than sprigs has in this situation, how is any of that “aggressive”? disgusting behaviour from the people defending the artist crying crocodile yt woman tears
@@snicole042 The stereotype is heavy with black women tho [coming from back in the day with Sapphire-a black caricature]. It can happen elsewhere but it is important to note that especially with black women, it happens much to often. You can go research it by search "Angry black women stereotype " . Hope this makes sense, sorry if not, love from South Africa ❤
huh? Can you please show me an example? White women automatically get called karens, psychos, crazy bitches... In fact, I've never once, ever, EVER in 42 years of life heard a woman of any color being called "passionate" when she was being aggressive. You're literally making shit up, please stop. We can call out racism without denying misogyny and making up absolute nonsense and special treatment that NONE OF US are granted.
That's what I said!!!! And maybe the cute lil paper clip guy from Word 😆 You could totally make a fcked tattoo cute/liveable with some creativity** **Yup, some ppl just have side pureshit on their body that needs to be lasered, but 99% of things can be fixed whey the color wheel and ingenuity
In Spriggs original video, she claimed that her response to the client freaking out was to say something along the lines of: "well what should I do? how do you want me to fix it? I can't fix it if you don't tell me what to do to fix it!"
Knowing what we know about her now that line grosses me out it reminds me of those dead beat partners that are like " how did I know I was supposed to clean after myself you didn't tell me to clean up after myself if you want me to clean up after myself you need to tell me!" Like I could be reaching but man was that my first thought😭😭😭😭😭😭
When I started becoming interested in tattoos I thought the community was going to be all about the beautiful artwork ..... I had no idea the tea was going to be this scalding🍵 😂😂😂😂
Oh it's similar in the knitting/crafts world. We think cutesy creations, all cozy by the fire but noooo it's absolutely wild, like faking your death and frauds levels of wild
@@ragdollrose2687 There was also that weird pro-life crochet person who would make crochet wombs? Something weird like that, I only have vague memories of a video on it.
@@thatsparklegurl1859 tbh I think it happened more than once 😭 But I'm also on the writer side of TH-cam, and these people fake their death all the time as well! This or pretending you're another ethnicity 🫣
ultimately I believe that an artist should do their due diligence to check spelling etc, but it is the clients final call/responsibility to approve when they see the stencil
I agree. Also, I have two tattoos in languages the artists definitely couldn't speak or easily check (Google is not trustworthy actually) so I felt it was on me! The tattoos are fine fortunately
Considering the level of literacy today, it doesn't surprise that an artist and the client don't know how to check and verify the correct spelling of a word or context. In the end though, it is up to me to approve what a design is and where a tattoo is placed. Just a suggestion when you are having lettering done, you should have your own copy of the phrase........ printed out clearly and then you will know the correct spelling and are free to pick the type of script to be used. I cringe every time I receive an email it has "your welcome" in it.
Yeah, I think it's the artist's responsibility to give you lots of chances to see/change the tattoo design before it goes on your body, but it's the client's responsibility to make use those chances to make sure everything is correct. As a tattoo client, if I had multiple chances to check the design, stencil, etc. and a misspelling STILL made it into the final tattoo, at that point I think it would be my responsibility and not the artist's. Especially if there is a contract that explicitly states that the artist is not responsible for spelling mistakes (I've had to sign a contract like this for every tattoo I've gotten, even those that didn't have words in them, so I think this is pretty standard.) That was the only part of the video I didn't really agree with, but everything else in the video was 100% spot on.
A high percentage of creative people are dyslexic, so always double check your artists spelling and the stencil yourself before agreeing its OK. It's on both the artists and you, but ultimately it's on you to make the final check before its on you forever
@@valeriedahl especially something in cursive, there's a lot of people who either can't read or have trouble reading cursive and tbh looking at one of the other ones she messed up (the Joshua one), I wonder if that might play a role. Like to me, it immediately stands out, but I also write in cursive all the time, but I imagine my sister (who can't read it almost at all) would probably take a second or two if she ever notices.
Honestly, she should go after her for emotional damages, medical bills (if she needed it), and the money needed to fix it. REGARDLESS of the waver, REGARDLESS of whether or not where the stencil blame falls, the tattooer SCARRED this woman. That's not a tattoo, that's a wound. That is inexcusable
I've never been to a shop that didn't have a line on their liability sheet where you had to write or type out exactly how you wanted your script tattoo spelled AND made you sign that you understand that you are entirely responsible for any misspelling errors, but this is a wild, wild ride. It really does seem like racism had a part in their interactions.
Also, Lai said that when she originally did the paperwork and showed Spriggs what she wanted, it was spelled correctly. All Spriggs had to do is copy the spelling on the sheet she was given. She was so lazy that she couldn’t even do that. I feel like in that case, that line on the form doesn’t apply. The customer did her due diligence and spelled it properly. Spriggs is the one that deviated from that.
@@Annie_Annie__oh wow then in that case IMO it seems like sprigs mislead the narrative. From the OG TikTok I assumed the client spelled it this way on the form, so spriggs just went with that spelling thinking it would be correct since the client wrote that’s what they want. Knowing client spelled it correctly on the form but the artist made the mistake puts the artist in the wrong solidly.
my guess is that it maybe didn't transfer correctly and with wiping the ink off it was just hard to read. It's also in a place where Lai wouldn't be able to see it during the process
I have an "Endure & Survive" tattoo, and they never made me sign paperwork of the script tattoo i wanted. Instead, the tattoo artist showed me the stencil and asked if that was the thing i wanted and it was. So, not everywhere does the form where you write what words you want.
In Spriggs' original video, she said the word was autocorrected to the wrong word when she was typing it up to do the stencil, and just assumed it was correct. She said they both looked at the stencil and both said it was fine with the incorrect word. Regardless, everything that happened after is horrible to Lai.
It's giving "Black skin has extra layers that white skin does not have, so the needle must puncture the hypodermis for a tattoo to show" and "Black people tolerate pain much more due to the extra layers of skin that black skin have".
Showing love to all races does not mean you’re not racist. Just saying, all white people have microaggressions ingrained into them, including you, and you’ll have to acknowledge that you have them in order to make any progress
the state of this woman's tattoo is why i will only go to Black//Brown artists or artists w| a proven track record of tattooing dark skin. toooo many tattoo artists think the way to tattoo dark skin is to do it roughly//way too deeply. happened with my first two and i ended up with a keloid along my tattoo. it wasn't until i got a decent one that i experienced the difference, no keloid, + w phenomenally better results post-healing that i realized how badly i'd been tattooed + treated by the previous artists. i later found out a lot of ppl (tattoo artists + nurses) actually believe darker skin is thicker. 🙃🙃 explaining all the trauma i have from IV attempts in the hospital. anyway. none of this surprises me. thanks for sharing this story + not shying away from the relevance of race here. 🖤✊🏾
The medical misinformation still getting spread about black and brown people is truly wild I swear. Sorry you had to go through all that but I'm glad you found people worth your time, money and skin!!
Coming from experience, you also shouldn't instantly trust a tattoo artist just because they're black either. My only bad tattoo healing experience came from a black artist. They could be misinformed/undertrained from their mentor just as much as anyone else can.
@@Yaunie13Of course but a black tattoo artist is still more likely to not believe that black skin is tougher/thicker. Same with a black nurse. That’s why you still look at their work.
My next tattoo is going to be a quote. I’m Blind. So I’m going to get my artist to spell it out to me and I will get family and friends to also check it. So much trust comes with being Blind and getting tattoos
Yes! Absolutely agreed. I'm legally blind but still have some central vision (I have Retinitis Pigmentosa, and my peripheral vision is now gone), so I'm able to see most of the tattoo stencil. But it really does require a lot of trust, even for sighted people. My first tattoo was braille that reads 'infinite vision'. Best of luck with your tattoo!
I have a friend (she's white) who went to the tattoo parlor Spriggs is at and she did mention how Spriggs is a heavy hand. She doesn't like being on social media, so I'll leave it at that; but seeing her tattoo as well, it does show similar scarring during healing.
This situation is a 100% about race.Why did she have to make sure she cried to her audience about something that happened in private between her and her client?She merely tells the woman.Oh, you can correct your tone when you talk to me.I highly doubt she would said that to a white client
Omg that artist was super racist and unprofessional. The whole "if you are respectful you can come back" was 100% trying to pin her as the "Angry Black Woman."
I just want to say THANK YOU for bringing up the racism. When I was watching this story unfold. I first saw a vid before Lei had responded and was like, "ok I get sprigg's point of view." but when the truth came out I was like, "This has racism written all over it" but other youtubers that I saw covering this didn't bring it up. It's important!
I got “She conquered her demons and wore her scars like wings.” tattooed on my ribs, and “conquered” is the word my artist & I BOTH specifically checked MULTIPLE times😂
Even if you believe it is solely on the client for spelling, why the fuck would you put this all in the public eye??? It's so unprofessional from the artist Fucking love that it's just drawn attention to her shit work
at first all i knew about this was the original video, and it already gave me bad vibes seeming like someone filming themselves crying just to get pity and sympathy. but then every new piece of information made it worse and worse and now i am so glad that such an unprofessional artist is being exposed. disappointed that she was able to get a career in the first place, but hopefully this puts an end to it. and of course she's an art thief to boot because why not! thank you for all your research on this and taking the time to feature black voices
@theonewiththeflowericon This!! Before I knew anything it felt really icky and it's giving "Honey you didn't tell me to go buy your birthday present!!! Why is this my fault?" 😆😆😆 Why Spriggs, are you a past middle aged white man?! You're dodging that accountability like one!
Lai's poor skin the fact that the artist wanted to fix it the same day shows how little she knows about tattooing or cares. She overworked that tattoo way too much and then to blame it on how lai is caring for it. That blows my mind. The artist went too deep plain and simple that would have scarred up on any skin type or skin color
My English cousin lived in America for a few years, and when there went to get a tattoo. The artist refused to tattoo him stating the spelling was incorrect. No matter how many times he told the artist it was the correct English spelling he wouldn't do it. English and American English have many spelling differences 😂😂 The word in the script was "colours" btw lol.
Ngl, “if you’re respectful” and “you’re so well-spoken” have become phrases that piss me off. It’s the equivalent of telling someone to “calm down” when they’re telling you to stop being a dumbass
I aspire to be as tatted as you, Queen keep Slaying! 💅🥰 My first tattoo when I was a silly little naive 18yr old, I had a shop tell me, they could not do color on my skin because I'm not white (yes that was their words). Not just 1 artist, there were 2 other artists who confirmed with him that they couldn't do color on my skin because my skin tone was 'too dark' and at the time I could not find a SINGLE photo of a colored tattoo on anyone other than pale white skin online, so I believed them. Took a few years before I went to another place and said I wished I could do color and told them what I was told and they were like 'Who ever told you that were just telling you they are bad artists'. I have multiple colored pieces now that look great against my 'too dark' skin tone! I don't like to see that this racism still occurs now ☹
I saw someone react to the first video and was so confused as to why the artist was practically hysterical. I mean, regardless it was ultimately the artist's fault unless the artist went "you sure you want it misspelled this way" and the customer said yes. Hearing the rest of the story, I can't help but think that the artist was intentionally trying to manipulate people in case the customer tried to talk anyone about it. I would never go to this artist.
I watched someone elses take on this maybe yesterday...and they didn't do near as much research as you, or they didn't care to, idk. THANK YOU for taking the time to show the customers side and the unfortunate dark side of what really happened.
She lost me at ”Its only happened to me a couple of times!”, so as a tattoo artist you have MORE THEN ONCE misspelled something a customer will have to carry on their body for the rest of their life? Thats a huge no 🙈🙈🙈
i think i understand the not being responsible for misspellings if a person had INSISTED on misspelling something for a joke tattoo, or if it was someone's name that the tattoo artist absolutely wouldn't be able to verify themselves. like having a separate waiver just in case someone refuses to let you verify something the way you think it should be spelled, yknow? but this situation doesn't really justify it in my opinion...
I came for the drama recap, I stayed for the ultra soothing vibes. Your voice, mannerisms, style, and lighting are so relaxing and just what I needed today 💕💕💕
I saw Markie cover this and facepalmed. I'm the other kind of tattoo enthusiast. I would love to get some but I have a very low pain threshold and am lacking a fair few lymph nodes so it's not recommended. As I'm almost 55, I don't have a TikTok account, but, it seems to me that a lot of young people go there to moan and complain and try to get sympathy. Well, it certainly backfired on Spriggs. I had little to no sympathy for her when I saw Calum react to her first video but by the time Lai had responded, she has basically ruined her career. Well done, Spriggs. Lauren, this was a great video. I love the balance you provided with the comments of the black women. As white women, we have no right to speak on behalf of our black counterparts, especially in the US (I'm from NZ) but I think it is important that we let them know we support them.
Omg I came from that video too. This video was such a refreshing breath of FRESH AIR coming from an AFROLATINA WOMAN. His refusal to acknowledge the 'fix' and how she literally fucking MAULED Lai & the racial component of calling a Black woman aggressive for the crime of *checks notes* being rightfully upset for having gotten a bad tattoo?!
Oh god I saw this on tik tok. It's genuinely horrifying that they even were able to get to the point of tattooing other people. Sprigs shows just how careful we need to be with the artists we get tattoos from, make sure you see other clients of theirs before you ever trust them at from word value alone.
It's definitely on the client to check spelling but it's up to the artist to lead the conversation as a professional. A well known phrase is unacceptable to misspell in my eyes, it's so easy to Google and double check, and then showing the client. But with a name that the artist may not know they need to lead the conversation, Get the client to spell out a name, Read it back to the client Make the stencil, Read it back Like I find it wild that people are so chill about slapping it on a client without having a proper conversation about it not just "look good? Cool" like it's your work on someone forever.
The client spelled it correctly on her form, Spriggs copied it and tattooed it incorrectly. If an artist messes up, that's on them; we were discussing this at the shop a few weekends ago (I was there with a friend, she owns the shop and was getting a back piece from her fave) and they unanimously said that spelling things correctly is the artists job. Painting, carving, tattoos etc... you've got to be aware of your art piece, you don't get mad at the canvas for a brush slip. They were saying that Spriggs bombed her career when she very well could have used it as a learning experience; encouraging other artists to talk about their fckups and the tips they've acquired over the years to minimize them. Even after the client responded, she could have eaten humble pie and said "Hey I fcked up and tried to deflect because I was embarrassed". Everyone makes mistakes, but she doubled down ya know?
We seem to be living in an era of victim hood and no accountability. While I agree Lai should have double checked more carefully, it’s still down to the artist to do a good job and not harm the client. She should have owned her mistake, offered a refund, and/or offered to fix it or cover it once healed. Instead she blamed and upset her client, got melodramatic and tanked her reputation. SMH
Yesterday I had a flare up of some chronic issues and I didn't even trust myself to draw in my sketchbook because it wouldn't turn out well.... to not take a break when you have an off day- absolutely insane to me. Especially when your doing something permanent and can change someone's life both physically and mentally. Shame on this tattoo artist. I hope she finds a different line of work.
I first learned about this around a week ago and I absolutely thought she was being over dramatic with the video she posted. The crying came off as fake to me and THEN when I saw the client was black I immediately felt like there were some racists undertones with her calling her “aggressive” and THEN it turns out that this took place in a very racist town… Screw that spriggs chick.
It is so refreshing seeing tattoo artist side on this matter. Thank you so much for (1) pointing out the biased against Black folks in the tattoo community (2) standing up for Lai and saying its not her fault
This whole situation is like a nightmare to me but there is one more thing I need to tell you about.... girl, that necklace is so nice, my litlle gothic soul is soooo jealous of it. Please wear it more often with a pride it deserves😂
The whole “if you are respectful towards me, then I’ll fix it” comes off as very racist in my opinion. It’s how you would speak to a child or some who you view as being below you.
I totally sympathize with this situation. I went when an old friend to get a tattoo once. The artist typed it out in a script with her (mind you she was an english major) they looked, chatted, confirmed, and he tattooed. It wasnt till we returned to her house that she realized the comma was missing. In this scenario I think the onus was on my friend, not the artist. It takes two to tango, but damn, homegirl shouldve done her homework for a sentence so specific. A bit different from the story, but this memory came flooding back.
Thank you for mentioning the race aspect! Black women get labeled as aggressive so often, after seeing lai’s video I feel like sprigs had a lot of fear just because lai is a black woman confronting her and not actually because lai was aggressive at all (just a personal theory based on the tik toks I’ve seen) Sending love to Lai ❤
THANK YOU for mentioning the very little representation of tattooing darker skin. I have a couple of tattoos that I need covered up but I have no clue where to go. I’ve searched to find artists who have experience with darker skin but have come up short.
The artist is completely wrong here, it's not bad healing that did that, it's bad application. And it happens a lot to black clients because people have bizarre ideas about what their skin is like ( same as ours it's just darker! )
already seen some people on youtube talking about this but i love how much more in depth you go in your videos so i'm really glad you talked about this situation!!!
Yes girl, ive watched this drama on Markies channel, so of course i had to see your opinion!! I absolutely agree its the tattoo artists JOB to make sure the spelling is correct. The artist is the one who is the PROFESSIONAL! How many people go to the shop that do not know how to spell well, or spell at all. You would damn well expect that even if you had spelt something wrong yourself, that the artist would catch it and address it with you. Lazy is absolutely correct!! Without judging a book by its cover ,literally, there are quite a few tattooist out there that haven’t had correct training and a lot of the time these are the ones that dont have any skills, they dont have a good level of education and dont have any really good job prospects due to this, they then go open up one of these quickie tattoo shops. Also this “artist” has her child in the shop while attending to a client!, hell no i want that person fully attentive to me and me only! I dont even know if children are allowed in a tattoo shop in the studio surely? Theres no way in Australia that the artists child would be ever allowed in there while there is a client being worked on, just no way at all.
I am in the goth and punk communities, our reputations are tainted by white-centric ideas and white faces despite the large number of poc that build the backbone of these communities so I understand the division pretty well between people who like the music and fashion and “aesthetic” (the majority white idea of what the scene looks like) and people who genuinely want to connect with other people like them. I knew from the moment I saw Spriggs that she was in the first category. Her vibe was immediately off. She lives in a red state and is tatted up with died hair, she must know what it’s like to be judged because of your appearance yet doesn’t understand that she is characterizing Lai as a defensive and aggressive person because of her skin color. I’m white and I know I have biases and I recognize them often and work to dismantle them because I understand how it feels to be treated differently because of things out of my control (trans, afab and chubby because of medical complications.) It’s literally so easy to read a fking book that goes “don’t do weird shit” and then not do weird shit
I only have one tattoo with writing and when the stencil was finished the artist handed me the 100% correct google doc with the writing while he took the stencil and spelt out each letter individually so I could match it to the google doc. It took less than 5 minutes and we could both be sure that everything was fine.
I was waiting for you to cover this 😂 ive been following the story best i could while recovering from ankle surgery and i actually said to my husband last night, i hope lauren covers this story soon 😂 also i knew from the 1st video she was dodgy cause the tears just are so fake and over the top. There's just no need for the tears ffs 😅 major second hand embarrassment
The scariest place for black people to live is in white peoples minds... you can have a clam conversation, and they will swear you were yelling and threatening them .... even if she was mad ... she should have been mad ... even if she called a dumb B!tch... it was warranted 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
Oh wow… I’m shocked at how much of a lie all this was. The artist made it seem like she was accosted by an aggressive client and forced into it. I’m baffled by the audacity.
Whenever I got my script tattoos, the artist told me they were dyslexic!! LOL However, back then, I was pretty well versed in grammar, so I typed the script in the computer for them (there wasn’t any scarring & they were very gentle)!! Compromises, multiple checks, and HONESTY (like my artist), IMO, is best for both artist & client!! 🖤🖤🖤
Spelling aside, that is a massacre, and I really hope it doesn't keloid on her. My most recent tattoo was a cover-up done by a Black artist, and it was the most gentle tattoo I've ever received in my life. Nobody's skin needs to be ground up like hamburger even if they're white as a sheet like me! This is such bad work, and honestly, the client is being really chill about it relative to the damage done. She could be completely raging, and it would still be justified. Especially after being painted as an aggressor as if that's not a stereotype Black women are subjected to all the time. She has every right to be pissed and say it. I'm from the US too, and there really are a lot of parts of the country, especially in the middle and south of the country, that are not safe for Black people still in 2024. I get her hesitation to self-advocate in person, unfortunately. I'm so glad the internet is clearing her name, at least.
If I somehow made a mistake like this, I would be mortified. I can’t imagine coming onto social media and telling everyone about my incredibly harmful fuckup. It’s so bizarre to me.
I agree with you completely. I had seen the original tiktok completely before she took it down, and I will admit i felt bad for at first bc she was talking about family problems, etc. But this was before all the other context! Also Celle had a video that was obviously prior to the other context that contains the whole original tiktok if you are interested (not saying it makes it better, Im just nosy and love seeing all the videos) Unrelated note, your necklace is giving me life!
Someone else in the comments mentioned that their friend has been to them and said they were heavy handed with their tattoo but that they aren’t comfortable being public online and saying something
The way Spriggs made all these videos with multiple red flags for manipulation tactics AND THEN the client was a black woman… racism all the way. And regardless of literally everything, at the very least Spriggs BUTCHERED Lei’s arm! Like take accountability for what you blatantly did!
I saw Spriggs' tiktok first, but I had no clue that Lai was the client! As a black woman, this is more than offensive. I've gotten tattoos by white artists, and they've all done a wonderful job. If Spriggs had no clue how to work black skin, she shouldn't have taken the job in the first place! I would rather have someone be humble and turn a person away because of a lack of experience rather than take their money, take a crack at it, and hope for the best. Poor Lai's skin is gonna be scarred for life now...
Racism in tattooing is really really discouraging and the lack of tattoos with colorful ink on darker tones is really sad like I have ruled out anything besides black ink on me. I fear even artists that are willing to do colorful on darker folk without any examples in their portfolio might mess up with like saturation of colors and such on me.
I've only just started the video but I have to say - your last few looks have been fantastic!!!!! I'm loving the gothic 1950s pinup vibes, genuinely suits you so so so well!!!
So when I was getting my first tattoo, a lady wanted to get Juicy tattooed on her neck. Her and the artist both thought it was spelled “juicey” - I had to correct them
The way “if you’re respectful I’ll fix it some more” sounds like a threat. Nah. And then to badmouth your client is a sure fire way to gain 0 sympathy. Also super agree with you it’s on the tattoo artist to get it right and check spelling. Of course the client should check too because human error exists even if the artist did their best to check. Situation so messed up
It wouldn’t surprise me if half of the tattoo misspellings out there happen because the stencil is checked and correct at the start but gets smudged as the artist works and instead of having a backup to compare, they just follow what’s left of the stencil
The irony of the ‘angry black woman’ stereotype trying to be used when Lai is literally the calmest person i have ever seen. I would be SOBBING if someone tattooed me like that. The fact Lai came back so calm and level headed after having her arm basically butchered, yet her artist was basically hysterical in her video…. Its almost poetic. 😩
@@treacletatts Thats absolutely brutal. I’m glad its at least in a semi-covered place but jeez… I hope it healed a little better than it looked here. I adore your videos btw!!! Just discovered your channel and I am watching NONSTOP!
I, a white person, try to make sure artists I go to tattooed well on black skin so if anyone asks me who I go to they aren’t excluded. Unfortunately you’re gonna be limited to neotraditional styles lol.
These types of things always remind me of when I was an apprentice in my early 20's. A military gentleman wanted "Semper Tyrannis" all the way across his chest. My boss, the client, and two of the clients friend's all said the stencil was awesome, let's go! I asked if maybe they wanted it to not be backwards? Four entire adults saw Tyrannis Semper across this dude and not a single one of them realized it. People get so stupid when a stencil is on I swear to god.
Latin has free word order, so it wouldn't matter that much, it's an understandable sentence either way. Of course, I realize this is supposed to be the quote "sic semper tyrannis", so I guess that if you want a quote, you probably want the quote to be in the same order as the original. The missing "sic" here is a much bigger problem though, "semper tyrannis" or "tyrannis semper" just means "always to tyrants", so the meaning is... not the same as the original.
I have text on my arm and made SUPER sure it was all spelled right. The artist still misspelled a word ("or" instead of "of") due to smudging if the stencil. So so so happy I noticed and it was able to be fixed. But this was a lesson to me that just because the stencil is perfect, they can STILL mess up.
There was a 2016 study that showed a majority of first year med students thought poc skin was thicker than white skin! I wonder how many tattoo artists think that? 💀
Definitely responsible for the final artwork when it comes to text. Like if there is a specific name, the client should bring it up. Same with any text the want put in. Then the Tattoo artist needs to grammar check and spell everything correctly, multichecking before it is permanent
Once I had a tattoo artist who was having an off day, she was very grumpy an chaotic because she was stressed about something. She was very in a rush with placing the stencils. So now I have two tattoos which aren't placed that great. It took a long time to accept that they are on my skin. I didn't cancel the appointment or say anything about it in the moment, because well, she is the pro:/
Its not about the spelling anymore, in my opinion. They are both in the wrong for it being missed spelled, cool. But that doesn't change the fact that Sprigs got on Tiktok and talked about a situation tha shouldn't be on Tiktok in the first place. Sis, why tf are you sobbing on Tiktok? Did you think the client wouldn't see it? You're a professional and Tiktok isn't a diary. And from what I've seen in Lai's video.....Sprigs lied. Which makes it so much worse
You know why… innocent people have been killed over white womens tears. It’s their only bit of power within the patriarchy.
My thoughts exactly, going to tiktok to cry about the situation just made her walk right into her own down fall. Making this a public matter was so pointless. Although lowkey i am kinda glad Sprigs was dumb enough to do this, she's getting her karma and hopefully this is giving Lai a bit of justice after literally having her arm mutilated.
And regardless of who is at fault, the client is the only one who has a right to be breaking down and crying. The least the artist could do is give the money back and apologize for a crappy situation that is on the client's body forever. I can't imagine not triple checking... It takes MINUTE to check the work that will last a LIFETIME. I have extremely good spelling, I would still check! Some people really need a little OCD to compensate for a lack of competence I guess...
And let's just be honest, I know a lot of people who have dubious spelling skills, and they KNOW IT. How can you be so confident if you can't spell CONQUERS. I would bet good money you've never used the word "concours" in a sentence. Gahhhhhhh
The moment I, a black guy, saw that the client was black I knew this was the angry black woman accusation all over again. The client has done nothing wrong and deserved so much better.
I agree. And the client was nothing but fair and calm, took the responsibility for things she could have done better. I also think Spriggs has that absurd idea that brown skin needs a heavier hand. Wrong and racist
soon as i seen spriggs video crying online and blubbering i knew something was fishy, soon as i saw the client, I knew.
Blaming everything on racism is such a weak take. It’s like you actually think that anytime a BP, specifically a BW is criticized or even insulted, IT MUST BE -Ism 🙄 Pretty convenient…..you automatically put a group on a pedestal, who can’t even be questioned. Anyone who buys into this mentality is lost.
@@isitoveryet9525everything isn't racism but the way Spriggs portrayed it was. Also the way she did the tattoo is also racism. Racists tend to believe that black skin is different from white skin and requires a firmer pressure. She clearly dug deep on the tattoo
Spriggs fed that stereotype when she claimed the client called her a dumb b-word. The client said she would never be aggressive as a black woman in a predominantly white state. She was texting her friend and said that in text. If Spriggs hadn't looked over her shoulder she wouldn't have known it was a thought
God...she really chewed up her poor arm. That thing is wrecked. She can get the tattoo covered, but that scarring will still be there. That's awful.
Same...a tattoo artist scarred my arm pretty bad and it took a year to heal then my new artist had to go over it 3x to make it look better...that was no fun 😢
@@sunnyvasic had to get scarring surgically removed after I lasered a tattoo off 😭 it was brutal
the cherry on the cake is that if spriggs hadn't done that first video and cried us a river like that, nothing would have happened. I don't think Lai would have gone public, she probably would have just dealt with the messed up tattoo some other way, maybe gotten a cover-up at some point in the future. Spriggs was throwing herself a pity-party and it blew up in her face
Well the scarring means no one will ever be able to read that tattoo….
Congratulations to Spriggs for putting herself out of business.
She cut her with the needle
Spriggs will be just fine and she won't take any of this to heart
whenever a black woman stands up for herself, she’s called “disrespectful” or “aggressive.” on top of being a lazy liar, spriggs needs some sensitivity and bias training.
Leaned right into the angry black woman stereotype. Spriggs has zero respect from me.
it really adds to it that spriggs is sobbing about how this black woman was so disrespectful and awful and evil like. it's fucked up she's using her white tears here
You’re racist.
You can't train stupid lol
She even was so chill about it and the artist didn't need to take it to social media.
I think people now forgot they can solve problems privately without getting half of the world involved and the customer was more than willing to cooperate.
I can't imagine how emotionally unhinged the artist was at the time considering how dramatic the video made her out to be.
As someone with dark skin and tattoos it’s nice to have someone out here pointing out how hard some artists work into dark skin without taking the care to consider the differences needed. Unfortunately when I first started getting tattooed I didn’t realise I was scarring as a result of heavy handed work. I now make sure to research extensively an artist before I get a tattoo even if they’re very talented or popular and have luckily encountered artists now who take the care to see how my other tattoos have healed and take care to not over work the skin whilst also maintaining enough contrast for them to last. Sorry for the long comment but wanted to just add my experience as well 😅
No need to be sorry at all!!! Voicing what you have been through on a very important topic is so valid 🩷
My artist told me about one client, a woman with darker skin, who came to him for a cover-up. The cover-up was to cover a massive, scarred patch of ink where an artist had worked the skin way, way too much to the point where tattooing over it was no longer viable. It sucked to hear :(
@@ghoultooth omg the poor man! It’s tough because once you scar there’s not much you can do. But I hope he was happy with his cover up.
I have had a couple of black friends ask me where I got my tattoos so that they could get their first tattoo there as well. I have the skin color of a ghost, and according to a dermatologist, my skin heals from scarring unnaturally well. Since most people don't know all that much about tattoos going in (I sure as hell didn't, and some of my tattoos definitely suffered), they didn't know you should ideally get an artist with experience tattooing darker skin tones. Colors will look like shit, and of they are too heavy handed, it will scar pretty badly, like you mentioned. In my experience, most POC have taken that pretty well despite it obviously not being my lived experience. But sometimes there is a little bit of awkwardness at first. And that is really shitty, because tattoo artists should be trained to do a good job on all skin tones, plus people who are on the older side, different skin sensitivities/conditions, ect. Anyone should be able to walk in anywhere. Unless a place has only white people for miles and miles and you are only going to have white clients, I guess? But if that's the case, either 1) still learn at tattoo conventions (not by destroying some poor soul's tattoo who has no idea) or 2) never take a client whose skin tone you don't know how to fucking work with.
An artist has messed up my skin before, and I can't imagine what would happen on anyone else, tbh. Cuz I sit like a rock too, and I take really good care of my tattoos while they heal.
S@@kondwas_art She said it was a woman? 😅
More context: North Dakota is a red state in the Midwest and black people are a small minority group in the region. She has good reason to be concerned about causing public commotion over the tattoo.
Can't tell what town this happened in, anyone know?
Dickinson, right? Its the location tagged on the IG photos but I could be wrong if thats not what you're referring to
Dickinson? Shit. That's the main oil boom town in ND for context. Feel bad for the client, in that region it'd be so difficult to find a tattoo artist who isn't extremely racist or has any focus on POC clients. There are a lot of VERY pro-Trump and racist people around Dickinson, even more than other parts of the state because of the oilfield industry. She might have to travel hours away to find a good tattoo artist for her. Tough situation. I've never gotten a tattoo in ND so no recommendations
The minute I heard it mentioned they were in North Dakota I was like 🤨 I’m only halfway through the video, but my spidey senses immediately felt there were potentially racist undertones to this story. The fact the artist accused the client of being aggressive and disrespectful from the beginning was a dog whistle for the framing of the client as a “mad black woman.” I absolutely hate that for her. She has every reason to be angry about that tattoo that looks like a scratcher did it in someone’s kitchen.
It’s known that women of color are often stereotyped as being aggressive, and Lauren is correct that a reputation for being difficult could absolutely follow the client around the area. There are so few POCs in remote states like ND that it makes total sense to me that race would play a factor in this story.
@amandamarklandyoga my thoughts exactly. It is an incredibly important aspect to point out. Especially immediately painting her as disrespectful and aggressive.
That’s literally so stupid lol politics and race have zero to do with this situation
first red flag when the tatto artist was crying in the video- she said she hates when she does this and she has screwed up tattoos a couple times before
They should check, not hard. But both people’s fault.
@@Choosetoonebut multiple times…MULTIPLE,
I get having accidents from time to time , mistakes happen ,. But she’s done this to multiple clients ,
A professional having a mistake time to time is alright but once they start getting it wrong a numerous amount of times , maybe she needs to look into extra training or self improvement, because once this happened multiple times , this isn’t a mistake , this is a pattern .
A pattern of mistakes IS a red flag, she NEEDS to atleast maybe to try to improve, even if it’s just extra practice and communication skills. Cause her level of unprofessionally then going on TikTok to cry about it, it’s ridiculous and she needs to be constructively criticized, not bullied, but constructively criticized so she can learn how to be a proper tattoo artist and give her clients the best care
Other than going on the internet lying about HER client who wasn’t even THAT mad at her orginally, THIS ARTIST MADE IT A BIG DEAL. The poor girl even agreed that she’d partially to blame , and the artist blew it out of hand ,
Mam needs communication skills
@@Choosetoone the client wasn't even tripping over the misspelling outside of a text they sent their friend, they were cool with having it fixed and acknowledged their fault in the spelling, the issue is everything else. how it was handled on the artists end. She ran to tiktok and made public what was a private situation, unprofessional. Also how many times do you need to fuck up someone's tat before you uh....idk? keep a dictionary at your side? multiple tats misspelled and fucked up? to add, proper nouns like names etc should be on the client but regular ass words? You as an adult cant spell conquer ?
I hate when people always call Black women aggressive when we stand up for ourselves.
Exactly because when a woman of another race does it or is really aggressive they say they're being passionate it's crazy
this, it happens with indigenous women and femmes too. as a mixed indigenous person myself i feel so sorry for the client she’s been so much calmer patient and more mature than sprigs has in this situation, how is any of that “aggressive”? disgusting behaviour from the people defending the artist crying crocodile yt woman tears
They do it to any woman not just black women. Did you learn that on tik tok.
@@snicole042 The stereotype is heavy with black women tho [coming from back in the day with Sapphire-a black caricature]. It can happen elsewhere but it is important to note that especially with black women, it happens much to often. You can go research it by search "Angry black women stereotype " . Hope this makes sense, sorry if not, love from South Africa ❤
huh? Can you please show me an example? White women automatically get called karens, psychos, crazy bitches... In fact, I've never once, ever, EVER in 42 years of life heard a woman of any color being called "passionate" when she was being aggressive. You're literally making shit up, please stop.
We can call out racism without denying misogyny and making up absolute nonsense and special treatment that NONE OF US are granted.
YES!!! Please please PLEASE talk about the lack of representation and education for black and brown skin in the tattoo world
I think if someone misspelled a tattoo on me, I’d get one of those red squiggly autocorrect underlines tattooed under it
Lol nice 😂
That's what I said!!!! And maybe the cute lil paper clip guy from Word 😆 You could totally make a fcked tattoo cute/liveable with some creativity**
**Yup, some ppl just have side pureshit on their body that needs to be lasered, but 99% of things can be fixed whey the color wheel and ingenuity
That's great!! Great fix!
Edit: and a pic of weird al saying "I hate these word crimes..."
that's actually so funny xD
I sincerely appreciate amplifying the voices of black women here
In Spriggs original video, she claimed that her response to the client freaking out was to say something along the lines of: "well what should I do? how do you want me to fix it? I can't fix it if you don't tell me what to do to fix it!"
Knowing what we know about her now that line grosses me out it reminds me of those dead beat partners that are like " how did I know I was supposed to clean after myself you didn't tell me to clean up after myself if you want me to clean up after myself you need to tell me!" Like I could be reaching but man was that my first thought😭😭😭😭😭😭
When I started becoming interested in tattoos I thought the community was going to be all about the beautiful artwork ..... I had no idea the tea was going to be this scalding🍵 😂😂😂😂
Oh it's similar in the knitting/crafts world. We think cutesy creations, all cozy by the fire but noooo it's absolutely wild, like faking your death and frauds levels of wild
@@ragdollrose2687 There was also that weird pro-life crochet person who would make crochet wombs? Something weird like that, I only have vague memories of a video on it.
@@ragdollrose2687the fact I know exactly who you are referencing with the faking death😭
@@thatsparklegurl1859 tbh I think it happened more than once 😭 But I'm also on the writer side of TH-cam, and these people fake their death all the time as well! This or pretending you're another ethnicity 🫣
ultimately I believe that an artist should do their due diligence to check spelling etc, but it is the clients final call/responsibility to approve when they see the stencil
I agree. Also, I have two tattoos in languages the artists definitely couldn't speak or easily check (Google is not trustworthy actually) so I felt it was on me! The tattoos are fine fortunately
Considering the level of literacy today, it doesn't surprise that an artist and the client don't know how to check and verify the correct spelling of a word or context. In the end though, it is up to me to approve what a design is and where a tattoo is placed. Just a suggestion when you are having lettering done, you should have your own copy of the phrase........ printed out clearly and then you will know the correct spelling and are free to pick the type of script to be used. I cringe every time I receive an email it has "your welcome" in it.
Yeah, I think it's the artist's responsibility to give you lots of chances to see/change the tattoo design before it goes on your body, but it's the client's responsibility to make use those chances to make sure everything is correct. As a tattoo client, if I had multiple chances to check the design, stencil, etc. and a misspelling STILL made it into the final tattoo, at that point I think it would be my responsibility and not the artist's. Especially if there is a contract that explicitly states that the artist is not responsible for spelling mistakes (I've had to sign a contract like this for every tattoo I've gotten, even those that didn't have words in them, so I think this is pretty standard.) That was the only part of the video I didn't really agree with, but everything else in the video was 100% spot on.
A high percentage of creative people are dyslexic, so always double check your artists spelling and the stencil yourself before agreeing its OK. It's on both the artists and you, but ultimately it's on you to make the final check before its on you forever
@@valeriedahl especially something in cursive, there's a lot of people who either can't read or have trouble reading cursive and tbh looking at one of the other ones she messed up (the Joshua one), I wonder if that might play a role. Like to me, it immediately stands out, but I also write in cursive all the time, but I imagine my sister (who can't read it almost at all) would probably take a second or two if she ever notices.
Honestly, she should go after her for emotional damages, medical bills (if she needed it), and the money needed to fix it. REGARDLESS of the waver, REGARDLESS of whether or not where the stencil blame falls, the tattooer SCARRED this woman. That's not a tattoo, that's a wound. That is inexcusable
I wonder if other ppl have sued over that
I've never been to a shop that didn't have a line on their liability sheet where you had to write or type out exactly how you wanted your script tattoo spelled AND made you sign that you understand that you are entirely responsible for any misspelling errors, but this is a wild, wild ride. It really does seem like racism had a part in their interactions.
Also, Lai said that when she originally did the paperwork and showed Spriggs what she wanted, it was spelled correctly.
All Spriggs had to do is copy the spelling on the sheet she was given.
She was so lazy that she couldn’t even do that.
I feel like in that case, that line on the form doesn’t apply. The customer did her due diligence and spelled it properly.
Spriggs is the one that deviated from that.
@@Annie_Annie__oh wow then in that case IMO it seems like sprigs mislead the narrative. From the OG TikTok I assumed the client spelled it this way on the form, so spriggs just went with that spelling thinking it would be correct since the client wrote that’s what they want. Knowing client spelled it correctly on the form but the artist made the mistake puts the artist in the wrong solidly.
my guess is that it maybe didn't transfer correctly and with wiping the ink off it was just hard to read. It's also in a place where Lai wouldn't be able to see it during the process
I have an "Endure & Survive" tattoo, and they never made me sign paperwork of the script tattoo i wanted. Instead, the tattoo artist showed me the stencil and asked if that was the thing i wanted and it was. So, not everywhere does the form where you write what words you want.
In Spriggs' original video, she said the word was autocorrected to the wrong word when she was typing it up to do the stencil, and just assumed it was correct. She said they both looked at the stencil and both said it was fine with the incorrect word. Regardless, everything that happened after is horrible to Lai.
How hard is it to not do this nonsense? And how hard is it to not be racist?
If the world today is any indication, it's extremely hard not to be racist. People do crazy mental gymnastics to convince themselves that they're not.
@@horrormoviereactionsI completely disagree- show love to our fellow humans, regardless of the color of their skin
@@ninalove3044 Racism is a problem whether you believe in it or not.
It's giving "Black skin has extra layers that white skin does not have, so the needle must puncture the hypodermis for a tattoo to show" and "Black people tolerate pain much more due to the extra layers of skin that black skin have".
Showing love to all races does not mean you’re not racist. Just saying, all white people have microaggressions ingrained into them, including you, and you’ll have to acknowledge that you have them in order to make any progress
the state of this woman's tattoo is why i will only go to Black//Brown artists or artists w| a proven track record of tattooing dark skin.
toooo many tattoo artists think the way to tattoo dark skin is to do it roughly//way too deeply. happened with my first two and i ended up with a keloid along my tattoo.
it wasn't until i got a decent one that i experienced the difference, no keloid, + w phenomenally better results post-healing that i realized how badly i'd been tattooed + treated by the previous artists.
i later found out a lot of ppl (tattoo artists + nurses) actually believe darker skin is thicker. 🙃🙃 explaining all the trauma i have from IV attempts in the hospital.
anyway. none of this surprises me. thanks for sharing this story + not shying away from the relevance of race here.
🖤✊🏾
The medical misinformation still getting spread about black and brown people is truly wild I swear. Sorry you had to go through all that but I'm glad you found people worth your time, money and skin!!
Coming from experience, you also shouldn't instantly trust a tattoo artist just because they're black either. My only bad tattoo healing experience came from a black artist. They could be misinformed/undertrained from their mentor just as much as anyone else can.
@@Yaunie13 who's doing that?
You’re racist
@@Yaunie13Of course but a black tattoo artist is still more likely to not believe that black skin is tougher/thicker. Same with a black nurse. That’s why you still look at their work.
My next tattoo is going to be a quote. I’m Blind. So I’m going to get my artist to spell it out to me and I will get family and friends to also check it. So much trust comes with being Blind and getting tattoos
Good luck!
Yes! Absolutely agreed. I'm legally blind but still have some central vision (I have Retinitis Pigmentosa, and my peripheral vision is now gone), so I'm able to see most of the tattoo stencil. But it really does require a lot of trust, even for sighted people. My first tattoo was braille that reads 'infinite vision'. Best of luck with your tattoo!
@@BlindBabeBethI love your braille tattoo!
I'm totally naive to this so I hope you don't mind me asking, but what is your reason to get a tattoo that you can't see?
@@BlindBabeBethBraille tattoo is such a good idea! I think Braille scarification would be great as well
I have a friend (she's white) who went to the tattoo parlor Spriggs is at and she did mention how Spriggs is a heavy hand. She doesn't like being on social media, so I'll leave it at that; but seeing her tattoo as well, it does show similar scarring during healing.
I saw spriggs work on her TikTok. None of those tattoos are even close to this depth.
petition to make Lauren's "BEHAAAVE" a meme or a ringtone because I need that on repeat on the daily.
LOL
Ooh! Maybe a new t-shirt design!? 🤞😉
That is crazy unprofessional. Her work is terrible. Even that geometric owl isn't original work. It's just done terribly.
This situation is a 100% about race.Why did she have to make sure she cried to her audience about something that happened in private between her and her client?She merely tells the woman.Oh, you can correct your tone when you talk to me.I highly doubt she would said that to a white client
I’m so with you!!
It felt racist when she said, "I told her if she's respectful I'll fix it more."
Yep. Why should it matter if the client is likeable or "polite"? You fucked up you should fix it.
Omg that artist was super racist and unprofessional. The whole "if you are respectful you can come back" was 100% trying to pin her as the "Angry Black Woman."
Thank you, I can tell that part isn't really clicking with other people.
I just want to say THANK YOU for bringing up the racism. When I was watching this story unfold. I first saw a vid before Lei had responded and was like, "ok I get sprigg's point of view." but when the truth came out I was like, "This has racism written all over it" but other youtubers that I saw covering this didn't bring it up. It's important!
I got “She conquered her demons and wore her scars like wings.” tattooed on my ribs, and “conquered” is the word my artist & I BOTH specifically checked MULTIPLE times😂
Even if you believe it is solely on the client for spelling, why the fuck would you put this all in the public eye??? It's so unprofessional from the artist
Fucking love that it's just drawn attention to her shit work
Respect for including a bunch of black creators and voices to this conversation.
at first all i knew about this was the original video, and it already gave me bad vibes seeming like someone filming themselves crying just to get pity and sympathy. but then every new piece of information made it worse and worse and now i am so glad that such an unprofessional artist is being exposed. disappointed that she was able to get a career in the first place, but hopefully this puts an end to it. and of course she's an art thief to boot because why not! thank you for all your research on this and taking the time to feature black voices
I was the same, it seemed entirely performative to me but now it's so much worse 0.0
@theonewiththeflowericon This!! Before I knew anything it felt really icky and it's giving "Honey you didn't tell me to go buy your birthday present!!! Why is this my fault?" 😆😆😆
Why Spriggs, are you a past middle aged white man?! You're dodging that accountability like one!
Love the ever-growing collection of axolotls in the background xD
Currently at work, but working on some art pieces, so perfect timing!
Lai's poor skin the fact that the artist wanted to fix it the same day shows how little she knows about tattooing or cares. She overworked that tattoo way too much and then to blame it on how lai is caring for it. That blows my mind. The artist went too deep plain and simple that would have scarred up on any skin type or skin color
My English cousin lived in America for a few years, and when there went to get a tattoo.
The artist refused to tattoo him stating the spelling was incorrect.
No matter how many times he told the artist it was the correct English spelling he wouldn't do it.
English and American English have many spelling differences 😂😂
The word in the script was "colours" btw lol.
Funny you say that. There is a popular makeup brand called Colour Pop…. That is a US company
Honestly, overly responsible better than not responsible at all
@@starbird3939 I never made the connection . learnt something new😅
Ngl, “if you’re respectful” and “you’re so well-spoken” have become phrases that piss me off. It’s the equivalent of telling someone to “calm down” when they’re telling you to stop being a dumbass
I aspire to be as tatted as you, Queen keep Slaying! 💅🥰
My first tattoo when I was a silly little naive 18yr old, I had a shop tell me, they could not do color on my skin because I'm not white (yes that was their words). Not just 1 artist, there were 2 other artists who confirmed with him that they couldn't do color on my skin because my skin tone was 'too dark' and at the time I could not find a SINGLE photo of a colored tattoo on anyone other than pale white skin online, so I believed them. Took a few years before I went to another place and said I wished I could do color and told them what I was told and they were like 'Who ever told you that were just telling you they are bad artists'. I have multiple colored pieces now that look great against my 'too dark' skin tone! I don't like to see that this racism still occurs now ☹
Not white !!!! Not white!!!!! Holy hell!!! I’m so sorry you faced that level of racism that’s awful!!!
I’m so sorry you went through this! Racist af like damn, if they can’t color they should’ve just said that. Glad you found someone better now though
so glad you got some good pieces & colour that you wanted ❤ hope things are changing
Can you also not wear makeup? As someone who paints for a living this is such a silly idea to me. Of course the tones will be a bit different, but...
I saw someone react to the first video and was so confused as to why the artist was practically hysterical. I mean, regardless it was ultimately the artist's fault unless the artist went "you sure you want it misspelled this way" and the customer said yes. Hearing the rest of the story, I can't help but think that the artist was intentionally trying to manipulate people in case the customer tried to talk anyone about it. I would never go to this artist.
I watched someone elses take on this maybe yesterday...and they didn't do near as much research as you, or they didn't care to, idk.
THANK YOU for taking the time to show the customers side and the unfortunate dark side of what really happened.
It's so nice to see how your personal style has grown over the years. I love you style and hair and lip color goes so well with your completion! 💗💗💗
She lost me at ”Its only happened to me a couple of times!”, so as a tattoo artist you have MORE THEN ONCE misspelled something a customer will have to carry on their body for the rest of their life? Thats a huge no 🙈🙈🙈
i think i understand the not being responsible for misspellings if a person had INSISTED on misspelling something for a joke tattoo, or if it was someone's name that the tattoo artist absolutely wouldn't be able to verify themselves. like having a separate waiver just in case someone refuses to let you verify something the way you think it should be spelled, yknow? but this situation doesn't really justify it in my opinion...
I came for the drama recap, I stayed for the ultra soothing vibes. Your voice, mannerisms, style, and lighting are so relaxing and just what I needed today 💕💕💕
I saw Markie cover this and facepalmed. I'm the other kind of tattoo enthusiast. I would love to get some but I have a very low pain threshold and am lacking a fair few lymph nodes so it's not recommended. As I'm almost 55, I don't have a TikTok account, but, it seems to me that a lot of young people go there to moan and complain and try to get sympathy. Well, it certainly backfired on Spriggs. I had little to no sympathy for her when I saw Calum react to her first video but by the time Lai had responded, she has basically ruined her career. Well done, Spriggs.
Lauren, this was a great video. I love the balance you provided with the comments of the black women. As white women, we have no right to speak on behalf of our black counterparts, especially in the US (I'm from NZ) but I think it is important that we let them know we support them.
Omg I came from that video too. This video was such a refreshing breath of FRESH AIR coming from an AFROLATINA WOMAN. His refusal to acknowledge the 'fix' and how she literally fucking MAULED Lai & the racial component of calling a Black woman aggressive for the crime of *checks notes* being rightfully upset for having gotten a bad tattoo?!
Why does Dita von Teese look so young, and why is she doing videos for Lauren? 🤔
LOL!!! Oh youuuuu!
Awhhhh such a sweet comment 😊
Thaaaaaats who she looks like!! Thank you for the comment I kept thinking that she looked familiar 😂
OMG...The resemblance is stunning.
Oh god I saw this on tik tok. It's genuinely horrifying that they even were able to get to the point of tattooing other people. Sprigs shows just how careful we need to be with the artists we get tattoos from, make sure you see other clients of theirs before you ever trust them at from word value alone.
It's definitely on the client to check spelling but it's up to the artist to lead the conversation as a professional.
A well known phrase is unacceptable to misspell in my eyes, it's so easy to Google and double check, and then showing the client.
But with a name that the artist may not know they need to lead the conversation,
Get the client to spell out a name,
Read it back to the client
Make the stencil,
Read it back
Like I find it wild that people are so chill about slapping it on a client without having a proper conversation about it not just "look good? Cool"
like it's your work on someone forever.
The client spelled it correctly on her form, Spriggs copied it and tattooed it incorrectly.
If an artist messes up, that's on them; we were discussing this at the shop a few weekends ago (I was there with a friend, she owns the shop and was getting a back piece from her fave) and they unanimously said that spelling things correctly is the artists job.
Painting, carving, tattoos etc... you've got to be aware of your art piece, you don't get mad at the canvas for a brush slip.
They were saying that Spriggs bombed her career when she very well could have used it as a learning experience; encouraging other artists to talk about their fckups and the tips they've acquired over the years to minimize them.
Even after the client responded, she could have eaten humble pie and said "Hey I fcked up and tried to deflect because I was embarrassed".
Everyone makes mistakes, but she doubled down ya know?
We seem to be living in an era of victim hood and no accountability.
While I agree Lai should have double checked more carefully, it’s still down to the artist to do a good job and not harm the client. She should have owned her mistake, offered a refund, and/or offered to fix it or cover it once healed.
Instead she blamed and upset her client, got melodramatic and tanked her reputation. SMH
SO GLAD someone brought up the line through it. It's like it has been spell checked. Adds insult to (literal) injury.
Yesterday I had a flare up of some chronic issues and I didn't even trust myself to draw in my sketchbook because it wouldn't turn out well.... to not take a break when you have an off day- absolutely insane to me. Especially when your doing something permanent and can change someone's life both physically and mentally. Shame on this tattoo artist. I hope she finds a different line of work.
For real!!! Is your job to artistically alter someone's body permanently??? You get extra "Nope, not fcking today!" Days!!!!!
I first learned about this around a week ago and I absolutely thought she was being over dramatic with the video she posted. The crying came off as fake to me and THEN when I saw the client was black I immediately felt like there were some racists undertones with her calling her “aggressive” and THEN it turns out that this took place in a very racist town… Screw that spriggs chick.
That “artist” really needs to be an apprentice again. When i saw them “crying,”’on TikTok i knew it was some bs.
It is so refreshing seeing tattoo artist side on this matter. Thank you so much for (1) pointing out the biased against Black folks in the tattoo community (2) standing up for Lai and saying its not her fault
I just wanna say - this hairstyle, the makeup, everything, it looks so good on you! ❤
I've been getting clips on this situation, and I am so glad you are covering it.
Also, you look like a vampire! In a good way, I promise ♡
Oh a vampire is the highest of compliments to me so ty 🥹🩷
The gothic glam looks you've been giving, you are making me want to go shopping! Beautiful! ❤️🖤❤️
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I highly recommend asos their sale is wonderful right now 😂 (my corset and necklace is from asos)
This whole situation is like a nightmare to me but there is one more thing I need to tell you about.... girl, that necklace is so nice, my litlle gothic soul is soooo jealous of it. Please wear it more often with a pride it deserves😂
Oh my thank you!! I shall do, it’s a new one for me ( got it from asos ) so this video was the first time I wore it 🩷
The whole “if you are respectful towards me, then I’ll fix it” comes off as very racist in my opinion. It’s how you would speak to a child or some who you view as being below you.
I’m not sure the phrase is racist more so the tone I think. Her attitude was disrespectful and rude.
I totally sympathize with this situation. I went when an old friend to get a tattoo once. The artist typed it out in a script with her (mind you she was an english major) they looked, chatted, confirmed, and he tattooed. It wasnt till we returned to her house that she realized the comma was missing. In this scenario I think the onus was on my friend, not the artist. It takes two to tango, but damn, homegirl shouldve done her homework for a sentence so specific. A bit different from the story, but this memory came flooding back.
Thank you for mentioning the race aspect! Black women get labeled as aggressive so often, after seeing lai’s video I feel like sprigs had a lot of fear just because lai is a black woman confronting her and not actually because lai was aggressive at all (just a personal theory based on the tik toks I’ve seen) Sending love to Lai ❤
I've had tattoos that I've "neglected" during the healing period, and at their worst, they didn't even look that way. That is absolutely insane.
THANK YOU for mentioning the very little representation of tattooing darker skin. I have a couple of tattoos that I need covered up but I have no clue where to go. I’ve searched to find artists who have experience with darker skin but have come up short.
The artist is completely wrong here, it's not bad healing that did that, it's bad application.
And it happens a lot to black clients because people have bizarre ideas about what their skin is like ( same as ours it's just darker! )
already seen some people on youtube talking about this but i love how much more in depth you go in your videos so i'm really glad you talked about this situation!!!
Yes girl, ive watched this drama on Markies channel, so of course i had to see your opinion!!
I absolutely agree its the tattoo artists JOB to make sure the spelling is correct. The artist is the one who is the PROFESSIONAL! How many people go to the shop that do not know how to spell well, or spell at all. You would damn well expect that even if you had spelt something wrong yourself, that the artist would catch it and address it with you. Lazy is absolutely correct!!
Without judging a book by its cover ,literally, there are quite a few tattooist out there that haven’t had correct training and a lot of the time these are the ones that dont have any skills, they dont have a good level of education and dont have any really good job prospects due to this, they then go open up one of these quickie tattoo shops.
Also this “artist” has her child in the shop while attending to a client!, hell no i want that person fully attentive to me and me only! I dont even know if children are allowed in a tattoo shop in the studio surely?
Theres no way in Australia that the artists child would be ever allowed in there while there is a client being worked on, just no way at all.
I am in the goth and punk communities, our reputations are tainted by white-centric ideas and white faces despite the large number of poc that build the backbone of these communities so I understand the division pretty well between people who like the music and fashion and “aesthetic” (the majority white idea of what the scene looks like) and people who genuinely want to connect with other people like them. I knew from the moment I saw Spriggs that she was in the first category. Her vibe was immediately off. She lives in a red state and is tatted up with died hair, she must know what it’s like to be judged because of your appearance yet doesn’t understand that she is characterizing Lai as a defensive and aggressive person because of her skin color. I’m white and I know I have biases and I recognize them often and work to dismantle them because I understand how it feels to be treated differently because of things out of my control (trans, afab and chubby because of medical complications.) It’s literally so easy to read a fking book that goes “don’t do weird shit” and then not do weird shit
I only have one tattoo with writing and when the stencil was finished the artist handed me the 100% correct google doc with the writing while he took the stencil and spelt out each letter individually so I could match it to the google doc. It took less than 5 minutes and we could both be sure that everything was fine.
I was waiting for you to cover this 😂 ive been following the story best i could while recovering from ankle surgery and i actually said to my husband last night, i hope lauren covers this story soon 😂 also i knew from the 1st video she was dodgy cause the tears just are so fake and over the top. There's just no need for the tears ffs 😅 major second hand embarrassment
Always here for your tattoo drama needs my love 😜😂 wishing you a speedy recovery 🩷
@@treacletattsthank you! This one's gonna be a doozy lol hope your doing well 😊🖤🖤
The scariest place for black people to live is in white peoples minds... you can have a clam conversation, and they will swear you were yelling and threatening them .... even if she was mad ... she should have been mad ... even if she called a dumb B!tch... it was warranted 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
Oh wow… I’m shocked at how much of a lie all this was. The artist made it seem like she was accosted by an aggressive client and forced into it. I’m baffled by the audacity.
Whenever I got my script tattoos, the artist told me they were dyslexic!! LOL However, back then, I was pretty well versed in grammar, so I typed the script in the computer for them (there wasn’t any scarring & they were very gentle)!!
Compromises, multiple checks, and HONESTY (like my artist), IMO, is best for both artist & client!!
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Spelling aside, that is a massacre, and I really hope it doesn't keloid on her. My most recent tattoo was a cover-up done by a Black artist, and it was the most gentle tattoo I've ever received in my life. Nobody's skin needs to be ground up like hamburger even if they're white as a sheet like me! This is such bad work, and honestly, the client is being really chill about it relative to the damage done. She could be completely raging, and it would still be justified. Especially after being painted as an aggressor as if that's not a stereotype Black women are subjected to all the time. She has every right to be pissed and say it. I'm from the US too, and there really are a lot of parts of the country, especially in the middle and south of the country, that are not safe for Black people still in 2024. I get her hesitation to self-advocate in person, unfortunately. I'm so glad the internet is clearing her name, at least.
If I somehow made a mistake like this, I would be mortified. I can’t imagine coming onto social media and telling everyone about my incredibly harmful fuckup. It’s so bizarre to me.
I’ve seen vids where people did not research and automatically took the artist’s side. This is refreshing
i think no matter what, nobody should be slagging off a client of theirs on the internet. big red flag in my opinion
“stohhp it right nouuw, stohhp it!”
I love it here. So glad you covered this. It’s an absolutely outrageous situation!
I agree with you completely. I had seen the original tiktok completely before she took it down, and I will admit i felt bad for at first bc she was talking about family problems, etc. But this was before all the other context! Also Celle had a video that was obviously prior to the other context that contains the whole original tiktok if you are interested (not saying it makes it better, Im just nosy and love seeing all the videos)
Unrelated note, your necklace is giving me life!
Big ol’ “tone police” vibes from this tattooist to the client! Yikes.
“Google is free honey” needs to be on a t shirt
I’m so interested to hear from past clients of spriggs and see if anyone else had a scarring situation like that
Someone else in the comments mentioned that their friend has been to them and said they were heavy handed with their tattoo but that they aren’t comfortable being public online and saying something
The way Spriggs made all these videos with multiple red flags for manipulation tactics AND THEN the client was a black woman… racism all the way. And regardless of literally everything, at the very least Spriggs BUTCHERED Lei’s arm! Like take accountability for what you blatantly did!
I saw Spriggs' tiktok first, but I had no clue that Lai was the client! As a black woman, this is more than offensive. I've gotten tattoos by white artists, and they've all done a wonderful job. If Spriggs had no clue how to work black skin, she shouldn't have taken the job in the first place! I would rather have someone be humble and turn a person away because of a lack of experience rather than take their money, take a crack at it, and hope for the best. Poor Lai's skin is gonna be scarred for life now...
Racism in tattooing is really really discouraging and the lack of tattoos with colorful ink on darker tones is really sad like I have ruled out anything besides black ink on me. I fear even artists that are willing to do colorful on darker folk without any examples in their portfolio might mess up with like saturation of colors and such on me.
I've only just started the video but I have to say - your last few looks have been fantastic!!!!! I'm loving the gothic 1950s pinup vibes, genuinely suits you so so so well!!!
So when I was getting my first tattoo, a lady wanted to get Juicy tattooed on her neck. Her and the artist both thought it was spelled “juicey” - I had to correct them
The way “if you’re respectful I’ll fix it some more” sounds like a threat. Nah. And then to badmouth your client is a sure fire way to gain 0 sympathy.
Also super agree with you it’s on the tattoo artist to get it right and check spelling. Of course the client should check too because human error exists even if the artist did their best to check. Situation so messed up
THANK YOU. I remember seeing the og video and feeling crazy bc literally everyone was defending the tattoo artist.
It wouldn’t surprise me if half of the tattoo misspellings out there happen because the stencil is checked and correct at the start but gets smudged as the artist works and instead of having a backup to compare, they just follow what’s left of the stencil
Faking crying is much easier than faking being chill with something you are pissed about
The irony of the ‘angry black woman’ stereotype trying to be used when Lai is literally the calmest person i have ever seen. I would be SOBBING if someone tattooed me like that. The fact Lai came back so calm and level headed after having her arm basically butchered, yet her artist was basically hysterical in her video…. Its almost poetic. 😩
Also- can Lai even get this removed??? I’m guessing she’d be left with a scar if she did?
She sadly would be yeah ☹️
@@treacletatts Thats absolutely brutal. I’m glad its at least in a semi-covered place but jeez… I hope it healed a little better than it looked here. I adore your videos btw!!! Just discovered your channel and I am watching NONSTOP!
@@OopsOlliePopp ah welcome 😍🫶🏻
I, a white person, try to make sure artists I go to tattooed well on black skin so if anyone asks me who I go to they aren’t excluded. Unfortunately you’re gonna be limited to neotraditional styles lol.
These types of things always remind me of when I was an apprentice in my early 20's. A military gentleman wanted "Semper Tyrannis" all the way across his chest. My boss, the client, and two of the clients friend's all said the stencil was awesome, let's go! I asked if maybe they wanted it to not be backwards? Four entire adults saw Tyrannis Semper across this dude and not a single one of them realized it. People get so stupid when a stencil is on I swear to god.
Latin has free word order, so it wouldn't matter that much, it's an understandable sentence either way. Of course, I realize this is supposed to be the quote "sic semper tyrannis", so I guess that if you want a quote, you probably want the quote to be in the same order as the original. The missing "sic" here is a much bigger problem though, "semper tyrannis" or "tyrannis semper" just means "always to tyrants", so the meaning is... not the same as the original.
I would never want to get tattooed by an artist who would not even take the time to do a five minute google search. it's just a big red flag for me.
there is nothing like sitting down to watch one of your videos it makes me so happy :D
I have text on my arm and made SUPER sure it was all spelled right. The artist still misspelled a word ("or" instead of "of") due to smudging if the stencil. So so so happy I noticed and it was able to be fixed. But this was a lesson to me that just because the stencil is perfect, they can STILL mess up.
There was a 2016 study that showed a majority of first year med students thought poc skin was thicker than white skin! I wonder how many tattoo artists think that? 💀
Definitely responsible for the final artwork when it comes to text.
Like if there is a specific name, the client should bring it up. Same with any text the want put in. Then the Tattoo artist needs to grammar check and spell everything correctly, multichecking before it is permanent
A TH-camr named Celle has more of the original meltdown video, where the artist admits it’s happened more than once
Once I had a tattoo artist who was having an off day, she was very grumpy an chaotic because she was stressed about something. She was very in a rush with placing the stencils. So now I have two tattoos which aren't placed that great. It took a long time to accept that they are on my skin. I didn't cancel the appointment or say anything about it in the moment, because well, she is the pro:/