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Religious Kids More Selfish Than Atheist Ones
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- A new study suggests that children brought up in religious household are less generous and are more judgmental than their secular peers. Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian (The Point), Jimmy Dore (The Jimmy Dore Show), and Mark Thompson hosts of The Young Turks discuss.
Do you believe the results of this study? Do people need religion in order to be moral? Let us know in the comments below.
Read more here: www.oregonlive.com/faith/2015/...
“When it comes to teaching kids the Golden Rule, Sunday school might not be the best bet.
A new study in the journal Current Biology found children in religious households are significantly less generous than their non-religious peers.
At the same time, religious parents were more likely than non-religious ones to consider their children empathetic and sensitive to the plight of others.
It's a common assumption in the United States that faith goes hand-in-hand with goodness. The Pew Research Center reported last year that 53 percent of Americans think it's necessary to believe in God to be moral.”
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Make sense, religion teaches such superiority to one another
+Optic Legacy /joke
+Schattenmacker Well considering how it was 510 muslims and only 280 christians... He is right about the muslims teaching superiority.
+Tallacus
Except hundreds of studies show the religious people give more. This is likely more pseudo science tyt likes. I mean they used 13 events in a study of thousands to say gamers were sexist
+Derek Halder Show one.
M. Bison just like tyt showed it? I am not going to go huntting for something you could easily find but are too lazy to so i will name a few
the Chronicle of Philanthropy released in 2013 a study linking the church participation in a state to amout each state gives to charity
data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research) shows religious give about 25% more
20/20 did a study on charity where it religion was the biggest factor of charity and religious groups had more in all charities even removing church donations
Those religious kids will make great Republicans.
Yep
Cloe Jarozenski In China?
+Andreas Octavio Navarro Nes I bet they would to...
wow. what an ignorant comment to make....
I'm a Christian and I'm more left than right but if I had to choose I would go left but I don't have to because I have different views.
No surprise there. Religious fanaticism lends itself to exclusivity and other notions that are meant to inflate your ego.That tends to explain the appeal of a lot of superficial Religion-As-A-Cure-All.
Fanatism, exactly, that's the word
***** fanaticism is different from the more mundane form of religion which usually takes the form of regular or semi-regular history of religious observance within the context of a healthy balanced lifestyle.
If you have a job, a spouse, and some kids, you're probably not going to blow stuff up in the name of religion no matter *which* one it may be.
If you're dirt poor, mentally ill, or otherwise come from a troubled background, *that* is when you start to see risk factors for religiously motivated aggression.
+Free Rein stfu, stupid.
+BloodMoneyLLC Yes because kids are giant religious fundamentalist
Yuki Hayashi if you raise them to be, they *could* be religious fundamentalists. It doesn't really stay with a lot of kids, especially the critical thinkers and smart alecs.
The point is that religious fanaticism itself conditions the psyche to be egotistical, regardless of the underlying belief system.
ive always found it funny that christians rarely observe the teachings of christ.
+Jesus Vasquez Your ass will convert to islam one day.
you think you have a choice?
+zzzzImTired because he has a beard?
Islam and Christianity is basically the same thing do your research
***** so much irony.
Say hello to the "offended" religious people.
+BlueG SwedenF I'm Christian and I can believe the study. The study had 510 Muslims and 280 Christians, with 58 Other Religion. It is well known that Islam teaches supremacy of Muslims over the world, so this study isn't surprising.
+Malachus Christianity is just another version of islam.
+BlueG SwedenF its me?
+epicLEKLE Christianity is older idiot
As. Christian, I don't feel offended by the fact religious children actually have moral criteria that idiots call "selfishness".
Funny how a religion that advocates charity would face these effects in children.
+Scylax this study is stupid when i was a kid i always saw the that stealing was wrong and sharing was great.
Otk_Obelisk That's great, but your personal experiences or those of some people you know are not enough to contradict a much larger study.
+Otk_Obelisk
Of course one person who goes against the study's conclusion completely nullifies the study. News flash, one person does not represent the entire group.
sleazybtd
Study "gamers are more likely to be sexist"
but i'm a gamer and im not sexist study must be bull.
study "blacks are more likely to rob and kill"
but im black and would never do that study must be bull
study "kids who are religious are more likely to avoid sharing"
seems legit
Andreas Octavio Navarro Nes ok but let's not look at the fact at how in america we have more religious people then we have atheist. so this study would always turn out the same.you could do the same thing class are the rich kids more likely to share or maybe the middle class or poor.
Every single one of the kids who spent 10 years making my life a living hell in elementary through high school were from christian families, so this study doesn't surprise me at all.
+Larry Phischman Could that maybe be due to the fact that the MAJORITY is Christian? I'm sure most of the people who were nice to you were Christian, as well.
Same. I was told to go to hell by a first grader in the first grade because he asked me what church I went to and I said that I didn't go to one.
@@oliviacosta5521That kid was being harsh.
Same here, I had entire town turn on me.
I think the biggest thing here is to actually look at the founders. They felt religion was an obstacle to human reasoning and constructive thinking. That it invited casting judgement rather than solving problems.
I think the US has this a lot and a great example is the prison system. It is build to punish even though we know that helping people get a better life will have a much higher chance of succeeding of them getting a better life and not doing illegal things anymore. However even though we know this as a fact getting past the idea that we should just sinners and punish them is very hard.
Another example is the idea of the "work ethic" where instead of trying to figure out why people don't want to work or why a system is not working we just judge them.
The problem though is that the elite likes Christianity for this feature. If you judge others rather than solving problems that means the ones beneffiting from those problems are shielded. We might cast judgement on the oligarchy but they are at the top of the system so that doesn't count for anything. If anything it can even be that we judge them positively because of their power just like we used to do with the divine right of kings.
Divine right is kind of circular logic. Where the kings have power because they have divine right and they have divine right because they have power.
When you're an atheist you realize just how fragile it all is.
So why do atheists lead all belief groups in suicide?
@@fruticetum it’s not like every atheist supports suicide bozo 😹🙏
@@gilbertogv_2249 Who said anything like that? I said atheists lead all belief groups in suicides.
@@fruticetum what?
Yup
I use to be religious...then I noticed how close minded these people are, and decided to put on a persona for my religious friends and family, while keeping my open minded side with me.
Does having a set of standards make you closed-minded? Closed-minded to sin, maybe. That's a good thing.
@@fruticetum exactly. The people who talk about being close-minded are also close-minded to the idea of having values that guide one's life.
Teaching kids to be decent human beings?
What kind of madness is this??
Except atheists don't do that. They teach their kids that relationships and even human life are expendable
@@fruticetum
Really? Who??
i live in a religious family my main problem is that Christians are really judgemental. i hate living by so many rules
The underlying teachings of religions like Christianity are :
- you are evil and a sinner.
- but that's ok, just believe someone else takes the punishment for you and your conscience is clear.
How anyone could think that's going to produce better people is mind-boggling.
@@CJfreshhhGod Either I know more about the bible than you do, or you're incapable of being honest about it.
For starters, the bible orders us to love one another - and to hate one another. Jesus says it flatout in "if you do not hate your mother, your father, your brother and sister, and even yourself - you cannot be a disciple of mine"
And of course, Jesus says that we are to love eachother as bibleGod loves us. BibleGod's entire theme of love is "if you do not love me back, I will light you on fire and put you to death."
To be blunt, either you're talking out of your ass or you've blinded your reason with faith. Take your pick.
it's about understanding empathy. if you do something, or dont do something out of fear of cosequences only, you will never learn how to do something because you care, or because it's right, you will never learn empathy.
They are children. Children don't like to share.
+lola bigcups to different degrees
+lola bigcups I was Christian as a child.. I can say that I was a Selfish little bitch. Religion makes this factor jump 1000%
Hey I was always curious as a person that grew up in Buddhist environment with agnostic attitude mixed in. How is growing up in christian family like? Like what kind of rule is enforced?
If you do not wish to answer you don't have to reply, but I'm just curious. :)
It sounds like you had it tough. I would not be able to survive for long in that environment, considering the fact the harshest rebuke I got from monk and my parents was for "playing" with ants. Thanks for spending your time answering my questions.
+Lisa Park well as someone who grew up as a baptist i was mainly told not steal, murder or judge others. and to instead love others because we were all gods children. also for those who don't know baptist have this weird rule of not dancing. never understood it myself personally.
The reason why I think this is so because religious moms and dads are more strict.
Or maybe its because their kids base their morality off of the fear of being tortured for all eternity
Or that. I mean I see many selfish Christians not give a damn about anyone. Which is why i left. I sill believe in God just not the church.
+Naruto Uzumaki False.
+Naruto Uzumaki I didn't think strict parents led to selfishness
I thought parents that give kids anything they want when they want led to selfishness
No, it's because the demons are controlling them.You wouldn't understand.It's part of God's plan.
The fact is when you spend your life feeling judged you become cynical and begin to judge everyone else
I'm agnostic now, but I grew up in a Christian household. This is so true, and makes so much sense. I was taught to think that people who did not become Christians, when they died they went to hell, no exceptions. I looked down on others while I was growing up until I "saw the light". My husband, who is an athiest, and I raised our children to question everything, study every religion, and to love everyone. They got to choose what they believed in, and are much stronger, and loving human beings for it.
As a Christian, I was TOTALLY not raised this way. But I know SOOO Many people who were and it is sad to watch :(
rather trust someone who does the right thing by choice rather than someone who does it because of fear
I have seen this in adulthood for 2 decades with adults.
I can't speak for all religions, but I can speak from what I've seen. You can say you have a value, but it's much harder to live out a value. The main value that comes from the teachings of Jesus is loving others like you love yourselves. This is very difficult and requires much balance.
Of course it follows that if kids of Christians are behaving more selfishly than secular kids it's not a fault of the teachings of Jesus, it's the fault of the parents not living out the values Jesus taught.
Adults who are more religious are more judgemental and mean.
Sadly true. At least from my experience.
From my personal experience this makes sense.
Sense.
It's so true, my family judge anyone that drink alcohol, have pre-marital relationships and dress differently to them. They are also so condescending to people from different backgrounds. It's a real shame.
I went to a private Christian school and l was never taught to judge others. The truth is all the morals they mentioned that they raise their children with are the same Christian children raised with as well.
I’m open to ideas, but isn’t that a really broad generalisation? It would be equally a rude generalisation if a study was conducted which seemingly proved that Christians were more moral than atheists, which I don’t believe. I’ve met lovely atheists who I consider my family and horrible Christians, and vice versa. People most of the time are not affected by their beliefs, (or lack thereof) so yeh.
The thing though is that modern Christianity justifies it's own existence and it's own excesses by saying it improves morality. If it does not then that's still major. If religion does not improve morality why should they be exempt from the transparency requirements other non-profits need to abide by? Why should we defer to them on questions of morality? Why should they be given special privilege in regards to free speech? Should we allow governments to force Christian ideals onto children if it doesn't improve their morality?
Religion doesn't just exist in a void. It's a powerful thing and it justifies it's power by saying Christian people are more moral than non-Christian ones. So rather it harms morality or does nothing for it the result is still the same. Which is that the justification for it's power is illegitimate.
It blows my mental how the same folks who spend sooo much energy decrying other religions, bend their back over defending Islam...
Reminds me of my step children who went to church a bunch when they were with their dad and his parents. I told them I didn't believe in what they believed in. They told me that I was going to hell. I then had to teach them that people can believe in whatever they want to believe in and that they shouldn't judge people.
i grew up in a religious household and i'm pretty sure i wasn't greedy as a kid. i always shared everything even though growing up i didn't have much. what made me "greedy" or unwilling to share were people who disrespected my trust. so this study is bullshit.
I couldn't agree more. the study is bullshit for sure. how can one stupid ass study judge all Christians.
But that's what you think. Who knows what others thought...
Mrcheekymonkey1996 It's not about Christians, the study was performed on religious (generally Buddhist) and nonreligious kids in China, not on western Christians.
Just because it doesn't apply to you, doesn't mean it's not valid. There are always exceptions.
One piece of anecdotal evidence does not invalidate a study. There's also a decent amount of bias there. Keep in mind they used the word correlation, and not causation.
I think that sound effect button should just have Cenk's "Of cooooouuuuuuurse!" for when he's not hosting.
Without religion people can be more open minded and tolerant
So you all made a video bullying kids....and pitting them against each other rather than teaching them to get along and love one another, regardless of religious belief. Hypocrisy and completely immature.
Rajae they are bot bullying kids they are talking about religion
i myself am a Catholic and personally i treat alot of people the way i would love to be treated so.. i dont think this represents all of us but yea i see where yall are coming from.
i like that atheists are good people because they want to be, instead of making good choices because they’re afraid of consequences
They make precise schedules, go on crazy diets and work till sunset because they WANT to? Just an example.
Since there are more religious people in the world, that means most people that pick their boogers are them. Religious people are booger pickers.
Funny thing,I don't think I've had 2 teach my kids anything. Kindness & compassion seems 2 just come naturally.
Great analysis TYT. I love these videos where, when I finish watching the video, there is nothing left for me to add. All of my opinions and points to make on this study have been fully expressed by The Young Turks.
I believe it
That's my line
Me too, this has so much sense.
So do i
+Naruto Uzumaki that was my line to say that was my line!
You all believe everything you hear on the internet dont you...
As a Christian, I really have to take my lumps on this one, and hopefully learn. I hope other Christians do the same.
Also, one more thing to note on the study. I've ready that some of the smaller religions(in terms of people tested) were removed from the study because they couldn't get a large enough sample size. So this really does boil down to Christians/Muslims/Non-religious.
That's so true. Because I'm not religious and I'm over the board on sharing. Or giving gifts away or buying food for others just because I felt like it. In my elementary classes I spent tons of money on my classmates. I just loved giving people things lol. I still do
Although this is an interesting finding, the study in itself does not mean a whole lot due to poor reporting. There was a less than adequate discussion of the study limitations and a poor explanation of the study methods/ strategies to minimize selection/systematic bias. For example, the layout of the article does not follow a typical logical paper format and there is no discussion of sampling and recruitment. Since this was a cross-sectional study, causal inference is already difficult to make. Thus, a thorough discussion of dealing with systematic biases both statistically and through systematic sampling is warranted. Also if anyone has read the journal article, the standard deviations from the outcome measures are quite large, so although the results are statistically significant, I am not so sure they are clinically or practically relevant. Basically the results of this study would have to be re-done in order to obtain any truthful insights about the moral/altruistic nature of religious persons. Also, the predictive model only explained less than 20% of the variance in their altruism measure, and that was when age, SES, country of origin, etc were included.
+Matthew Bui I also want to add that in general, challenges exist in comparing religious vs. non-religious individuals as a scientist would have to somehow account either using descriptive statistics or adding a separate variable in the predictive model to address those how regularly practice structured religion and those who do not. Lastly, according to Kohlberg's Theory of Moral Development, most children between the ages of 5-12 would be at the Conventional Stages (1- Conformity or 2- Law and Order). Children at this age basically do things to conform or because they are following the rules they have been taught. They aren't even at the stages where morality is fully developed and most individuals do not even make it to the final stage. These factors have all not been taken into account in this study. A better way to conduct this study would be to look at children and evaluate altruism over time using a validated measure in a prospective cohort, following participants into adulthood. That would be a better methodological approach.
Religion is terrible. Stop apologizing.
I understand it is a study, and there are outlying factors. But I do have to say it is an unfair study. I was raised in a catholic/christian home. It was so religious that when I came out as pagan I was forced to read the bible over the summer. I am incredibly religious as a pagan, but I like to believe I'm as charitable and moral as anyone else. I give help to those who need it, and I rarely put myself first. I think there is bias in this mostly because religion has many forms and teachings. I think it has more to do with the person themselves. You can blame your parents for how you turn out, but you -can- raise yourself. Take what your parents say, but make your own morals. This study is just an excuse.
I'm Jewish and tomorrow (my birthday) I will thank everybody who I walk by
The experiment that guy mentions (about how you secretly wish you could do the things you judge other people for) is bullshit - think about the methodology of that. How could they possibly reach that conclusion? And - even more sigh-worthy - how could they mean it about people in general and not about a specific culture or cultural trait?
I don't think he's lying, but he's probably talking about someone else's opinions (from somebody he respects, or is generally respected in his/her field) or a philosophical tract or something. I seriously doubt it's experimental research.
+Peterson Silva thank you how do they know that it is religious that is influencing these kids and not things like their social status with their friends and family's whether or not if they have siblings. or maybe there family lifestyle or how rich or poor they are.
+Jennie Hughes true that life is a complicated mess and saying that these kids are more selfish simply based on their religion i think is very unscientific. and very sloppy and arguably biased. there are a ton of factors that they don't even mention. they say that there were no significant differences but don't go into detail as to what any of those significant differences were. also there test to see if the kids were selfish or not seems very dumb down.
it was a sticker test and the kids pick and chose which ones they wanted but were told that not all the other kids were able to choose. but did they take into account of how much the child in the experiment enjoyed stickers. i can beleive that a five year old is more likely to be selfish with stickers than a twelve year old.
+Peterson Silva It is experimental research, dumbass. Why not look it up?
Face the facts hunty! Religious people are hypocritical and judgemental! 💋💅💁
+Peterson Silva It's because more often than not, when some christian politician or priest speaks out against homosexuality they generally turn out to be a closet case themselves. It's common sense the same can be applied to other scenarios.
Ana's so pretty
she lacks "junk in the trunk" for my taste
+Vote for Bernie same
+Vote for Bernie when have you seen her ass? Junk in the trunk is a euphemism for fat.
atheistram i follow a few of the TYT on instagram she being one of them and she has posted picks of herself there before. and ana is too skinny for my preference. if 'fat' means more 'cushion for the pushing' so be it
Well i take that to mean big butt
Kids that age aren't religious... They haven't formed their own opinion yet. This study shows the failure of parents, not the failure of religion
Basically, religion teaches kids that if you don't do what they say that the imaginary monsters will come after you in your dreams.
I'm an atheist and have no love for religion, with that said, I feel this video was trying to push an agenda, sorry but I don't do propaganda, down vote.
+IzanagiXZ Props and your inclination was right. The study had 510 Muslims, 280 Christians and 58 Other Religion. So Christians were less than half of the sample, despite what's implied here.
I'm religious and I don't mind honest criticism and debate. But this seems more like an agenda video that a debate. Fox News loves to select Islamic extremists and make a massive generalizations on their views
Nobody is "moral" just for the sake of it. People have their benefits from it even if its just the "moral highground"
+Sufkopp82
Really? No one is moral just for the sake of it? Just from that statement, you're telling everyone that you're an immoral person.
Just like the greedy person thinks that genuine acts of generosity must be fake, the immoral thinks that the actions of a moral person must also be fake.
Uum sorry to burst your bubble but yes, a lot of people are moral just for the sake of it.
+Gabriel De laSoul False. Everyone has a sense of fairness to begin with, even animals that are in social species. Life is preferable to death, pleasure over pain, etc. for the most part. Sometimes they come in conflict with each other. But this is how you actually address
morality rationally.
+Sufkopp82 Speak for yourself. Altruism is an actual thing that does exist. If you've never seen it in your life, thats quite unfortunate.
Neg Rido All people have a perceived benefit from their actions and if it is only that it makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside. I havent encountered a single action which didnt also have at least a small selfish core.
My parents put me in a Christian private school because I was being bullied in public school and guess what...I was bullied even worse, especially by the preacher's kids. I was so fearful of going to school that I went from a straight A student to failing nearly every course due to excessive absenteeism. But I had been so well conditioned that I failed to suspect that it was religion that was to blame and I continued to believe in Christianity for almost 30 more years.
this is soooooo true. I went to church school back when i was like 12 and i didnt make ANY friends, i literally only made enemies and everyone hated each other so much then when i got into normal school, i made so much friends
TYT talking shit again.
My long term neighbours on both sides are religious and extremely kind and considerate.
My daughter's Gopro Hero 4 silver accidently got trashed in the yard when the neighbours kid was wearing it. Within days the kid came by with a brand new Hero 5 Black which my daughter refused
That flies in the face of TYT bull.
aplace inthesun Yep. In fact, I find that the fact that religious kids being more selfish is coincidental. Religion has nothing to do with it. Plus, they're kids. Kids act selfish and mean all the time, no matter religious affiliation.
How old were these "kids"? Sounds like a ridiculous study.
Check the description
5-12 years old.
They were also from several different countries. Close to 1500 (don't remember the exact number. Check description.) kids from almost every religion and nonreligious children.
Kids or not, religious people are proven to be more likely to be selfish. You may not like it, but that's the way things are- no use denying it.
+Servals
Umm no. The study its is not a double blind study which the independent and dependent variables are tested thoroughly. The reason it never will is because Chicago (USA), Toronto (Canada), Cape Town (South Africa), Istanbul and Izmir (Turkey), Amman (Jordan), and Guangzhou (China) are culturally different. China for example has a very controlled population in how to behave and different customs. Also the fact that they are children completely depends on the area of which they were at that could be effected from like Chicago which has high crime rates. Places with higher crime tends to make people more selfish then less-violence places. The study itself is to vague in its variables in the study to be considered any proof and the study itself doesn't exclaim to say that. This a case like the before where the did a study on video gamers and then they claimed gamer are sexist. The fact is people take every study written for your own agenda and don't even know how it works.
Also to quote the study itself if you actually read it.
"That 4-year-old children donated as much as they did, however, is quite remarkable. Although it is possible that children felt more pressured than adults to behave altruistically due to socialization pressures from the interviewers or nearby teachers, every effort was made to allay their concerns by assuring children that donating stickers was optional and that decisions would be completely anonymous. Neither interviewer ever knew how many stickers a particular child donated."
Here you read where they admit that the independent variables were something that could have influence the children in behaving a certain way. But you didn't read the story at all did you?
I'm a Christian. We don't do anything out of fear. You guys need to learn more about a topic before discussing it.
As an atheist, thinking that this is maybe the only life everyone around you will have, you want that people have a great one.
WTF, This is complete Bullshit
I thought this was a channel about politcal news, not religious debate.
+TJTheBoy They are children for peet's sake
there's nothing inherently wrong with judging someone else's actions. We do it every day
+emerald3331 I find it more interesting that they are unlikely to share
Yes there is. Just because something is natural doesn't make it right.
+ArchAngel_G I'm not surprised.
shygirl2927 You will make several split judgements in a day unconsciously. People generalize their experiences and that's how they get their behavior. Can you explain what exactly is wrong with judging? And my point isn't that BECAUSE it's natural there is nothing wrong with it. I see nothing inherently wrong with judging, just with how people behave when they do judge. It's not the judging that's bad, it's the condemnation, ridicule, and exclusion.
+ArchAngel_G Actions, sure, but Religions teaches you to judge others simply based on who they are.
They're children, remember that, children aren't known to be the most generous people
Man, am I glad my monotheist mother decided to break away from church going and bible reading when I was little. Me and the kids are turning out semi-decent.
So what are we trying to say here? Religious people are bad people? Or just bad parents? Or are we saying that Non-religious people are better people and/or parents? Either way, what's the news here? Are we supposed to take away from this that it would be better if we as a society were to move away from freedom of religion and more towards abolishing religion? Help me out here TYT, what's the message?
+psybermage8 The message here is stop indoctrinating children into your religion. Let them grow up and choose whether they want to join a religion on their own.
+Cynthric oh I see, so then we are saying religious people are bad parents. That raising your child with your values, what you've come to believe is right, is a bad thing to do.
psybermage8 Yes it is. Just look at how that turned out for Ted Cruz and most Republican politicians and Westboro Baptist Church. Indoctrination is bad.
Yeah, must've been their parents' fault they turned out that way. It's too bad you never reach an age where you can think for yourself so that you're not forced to be completely molded by your parents your whole life. Well I'm glad we have this study to tell all the religious people that they're objectively bad parents. Maybe we could do more studies to find out if the adults behave the same way. Then we can go and tell them all they're bad people as well as bad parents because they're religious. Won't change anything because they're that way because of their parents. But hey, maybe those of us raised in a non-religious household can't help but want to stick in their faces. Y'know, because of our parents.
psybermage8 Don't know why you're getting so defensive about it. The fact of the matter is a large amount of christians are bad people. If you're incapable of having enough self control to not do bad things without the constant imaginary threat of some "supreme being" looming over your head then deep down you're a bad person that can't be trusted to control yourself unless you think you're constantly being watched over like a child.
Stick to politics! Stop trying to make everyone agnostic/atheist. This is America and we get too choose. Again, STICK TO POLITICS!
This is America, we get to choose our politics too. If they wanna say they think Jesus is a blue chicken, they have every right to do so
I am an atheist and I can agree with some of the things that you guys are saying in this video, but one thing that I find hypocritical is that for the entire video, you were judging religious people while saying that their children are raised to be judgmental.
+Om Parekh lol Yeah... the hypocrisy was getting to me, too.
This study has nothing to do with anything. Kids that are more selfish than others isn't a result of religion, it's a result of the parenting they grow up in and why should I or anyone else care about how selfish kids are or what religion they are. Did the people who did this study run out of things to study so they they just said " ok let's put some kids in a room, see which ones share and which ones don't and see what their religion is. " This is bulls**t.
And this rant is not coming from a religious point of view, I am a spiritual and don't subscribe to any religion.
I think it has more to do with how your raised, and how many times you've been screwed over by others. im a christian, and i use to always share my pencil with people, sadly they used to make fun of me and constantly bully me, so i stopped.
+War Master agreed when i was a kid i use to share alot even though i didn't have much. one day i got something awesome a yugioh starter deck i let some kid see on the bus and never saw it again.
***** No they bullied me even though i shared with them.
That is definitely true but I do think there is some truth to the study as well. It's not the be all end all but no study is.
So you decided to change who you are because people made fun of you? Wow.
"Do whatever others prefer you to do to themselves"
-Ali (the son in law of the prophet Mohammad)
I prefer the Wiccan Reede (Reede is old English for law, btw)
- So long as it doesn't cause harm, do what you want.
As a young teenager i remember hearing the story about the lamp oil at a funereal or some other church thing i was pressured to attend. Its about 5 girls having lamps and oil and 5 others only having lamps. And the 5 with oil won't share any out of fear that there might not be enough for everyone. It just disgusted me so much, and made me understand selfishness in some of the church-going people i know.
Just read it, its in Mathew 25 (or just google "bible lamp oil").
Who'd have thought that raising kids to be judgmental would make them more judgmental?
what a nonsense. too much factors to simply make this kind of specific results.
+Croz Raven says the scientist correct? You are indeed so ignorant it's upsetting.
+Croz Raven Hence why it's not concrete, but there's a correlation.
"what a nonsense."
Indeed.
+Croz Raven A study in the UK showed that UK residents consider atheists more moral as they have no religions bias, it seems as if a pattern is showing
factors such as??
Thou shalt not kill. If you need religion to teach you commonsense then there’s something , seriously wrong with you.
I'm Christian but I don't live in fear. I know many atheists and I'm friends with them.
As an Atheist I call BS on this. People are people. They don't need to have a religion just to be mean.
People ARE people, which means depending on where they where born/how they were raised, will effect their mentality.
Well the study says more likely to be selfish not religious children are selfish, which honestly makes sense to me seeing the kind of dogma they are indoctrinated with, haven't checked out the study so not 100% it's reliable but it makes sense
+Reality Forge STUDY INTERNET let those two words sink into your mind ant remember dont believe everything you see on the internet!
+Hobo Hobo again if u had read the comment I stated that I had not checked out the study yet but it makes sense and seems kinda obvious based on the indoctrination that we witness in our everyday life, that being said the study could be utter shit but idk haven had the chance to check it out fully yet
+ChameleonLost88 i totally agree with what you say, but they're saying that some religious kids are more arseholeish because of their faith and the way they're being brought up by their religious parents
Even though I'm agnostic, this video is kind of harsh and judgemental towards religious people, assuming they are all irrational and stupid...
+halcyon daze Welcome to TYT.
+halcyon daze TYT hates nice people... btw my house burn down one and a christian family helped me out... Atheist people were no where to be found....
Most of them are
+Iron Fist Oh? So you asked everyone who helped you what's their beliefs on religion? Come on, guy.
+Iron Fist Probably because atheist are a tiny minority.
This study doesnt prove anything. It doesnt matter if youre religious or not , it matters how the child is taught to behave. Children act upon based what they observe in the home. I find it hard to believe that charitable organisations Are more likely to raise children that are uncharitable. This is only one study probably done in one small area.
+Internet Userperson actually it's not, it's done by collective data from across the world, including China, Middle East, USA, Europe...
also - you don't need this study to know the findings are already true. Just look at decades of political data. It is a well-known fact that majority of Christians vote for Republican party, while majority of atheists vote for Democrats.
And the Republican party's motto towards the poor is basically: if you are poor, that's your own problem. You just need to work harder.
You can go to cell.com and see the actual data. Its not a significant find. TYT just likes to blow things out out of proportion.
looking back at it, i was christian for 14 years, and i was pretty greedy
How can this be fully accurate when "religious people" aren't even suppose to act like that?! And clearly, religious people who are like that are hypocrites! These idiots are unfairly generalizing a group of people!
+Freshsink950 Christianity, for example, is extremely contradictory. There is no one correct way to be a christian. Christians literally can not follow all of the instructions of the bible. You cant simply dismiss the selfish theists are not true theists because they act in a way that you dislike.
This seems to be the case, to some degree or another, in most religions.
I'm sure they don't become fully accurate, although they try their best to but that's not the problem. Now click the link and forum a real argument instead of watching an outlet.
well they aint meant to like cheeseburgers either.
Freshsink950 No, it's true....christians are hypocrites.........
Religion=ego
How old were the kids in the studies?
I can't generalise here, but I've come across more acts of kindness outside of Christianity than within.
I’m Christian listen we’re always being judged 24 hours a day. Flash forward I no longer go to church and only have faith when it’s convenient.😅😂🤣
"A new study".... Oh boy, let's see what biased, variable-lacking, geographically determined "study" these clowns pull out of their spam mail.
Because liberals never get reliable sources, and Conservatives always do right?
Major Badass
So you admit TYT is bullshit? Music to my ears.
Shinji Kurosaki
Your deflection of the truth of my comment is entertaining. Anything but the truth. Right, Progressive?
+Cultured Patriot Unblocked No, It seem like you have a bias, you would be more likely to trust a CONservative source, than a liberal one, while I would actually see which one is backed up by facts
Major Badass
I didn't mention a study. For all you know, I've never seen a Fox News study.
Nothing surprising, really. I've seen this happen through religious children for years. They're always taught their better than everyone else because of their religion and beliefs.
Mark Thompson's voice sounds so familiar. Does anyone know if he has been in any movies?
I'm 28 and recently lost my religion. The process started in early 2014 and here I am. I can tell you there still so much religious toxin that I need to expel from myself, but I'm getting there.
It was probably the best thing I've ever done with my life. Religion instills such bad traits, such as 'humility' (bullshit lol, most people who seek to be humble are pompous asses) and 'regret' (repentance). Seriously, why would one want to be humble? We should strive to be realistic about ourselves and others, not 'humble' (aka being unfair to yourself). Repenting (regretting) is the other shitty thing - it makes us soooo unhappy and insecure. It forces us to constantly and unnecessarily doubt ourselves.
I believe there are people out there who can make religion truly 'work' for them and I give props to those people, but I know for sure that I'm not one of them (and most religious nuts aren't either).
/rant off
This doesn't make sense. The bible says to share.
religious people are more charitable than non religious people, thats a fact. the foundation of every religion is to be charitable, to help people, to be kind and to not be greedy etc etc.
+Burwayn Ardi Too bad its not a fact but just a myth.
Really great vid and discussion!!
I find it very interesting that when I was a waiter, the shift I was tipped the least was Sunday at lunch. Maybe just personal experience, maybe a sign of something bigger.
Rich well to do people dont hv time for church? Just a theory.
They left all the 💰 in the church basket.
Aren't you guys judging religious ppl? My grandma is very religious but its never stopped her from loving my atheist ass
TH-cam channel FaceLikeTheSun challenges this study in a recently uploaded vid
that has a title that is way too long to memorize.
In the name of intellectual honesty, dear viewer, perhaps you should watch it.
Just a thought.
(hey, Gonz, how you doin?)
This is not surprising at all. Religious adults are the same way.
study, by who, link me the study please.
It's great having someone who will forgive all your sins, they're really the perfect victims, but as there's likely other people that have cracked this code it's important that they get harsher punishments on earth.
the article sighted in the description is biased and claims that there is a significant difference while the charts in the actual study show only a slight variance
furthermore, the age range on the study is incredibly large, covering two- arguably three- developmental stages of childhood. willingness to share fluctuates during that time and odds are this study actually ended up comparing two groups that average different ages.
TYT took a bogus study and used it as an excuse to speculate and bash religion for eight minutes. watching this channel is a complete waste of time
I remember going into that weird dark box to make my first confession in like second grade. The dude asked me if I needed to confess anything. I straight up said, "No. I already said sorry and learned my lesson for doing bad." He just sat on the other side of the old-people-smelling screen silent for like thirty seconds. I don't remember anything else after that, except I felt like a smug, happy little asshole for the rest of the day. That was the moment when I decided I didn't really want to be a part of this whole religion thing.
This is kinda funny because most of my friends are religious for social reasons and they are 10x more selfish than I am.
"Judge not, lest you be judged."
"Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us."
Yea, it's in theire.
It's written in the Bible that ye shall eat POOP 🙂 it's in the Bible so it must be true.
So what about the hundreds of christians that actively participate in charity?
I ran into a fundie teenager who thought rape victims should be banned from getting an abortion and thought that girls should not go to school. so ....
Interesting video. I haven't read the study, but I wonder if the results could have a different interpretation. For instance, could there be a reason other than selfishness for the lack of sharing? Maybe the issue is control. Many religious people emphasize self control, so maybe the children feel uncomfortable with liberal gift giving, as if they are being complicit in another's "sin".