Can the rank 1 player 1v5 Heralds?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- In this video from Jenkins stream, he watches Quinn (rank 1 in the world) play against 5 Heralds--1 versus 5.
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In a game where quinn literally can't do anything to defend against simultaneously pushing both sidelanes, the heralds came up with the brilliant plan of picking 4 heroes that don't hit towers and then having 3/5 of their team go mid and feed quinn a 7 minute bloodstone. It's very impressive that they brainstormed a strategy that's significantly worse than the default 2-1-2 setup
Their decision making couldn't have been much worse, but that's par for the course for heralds. If a single one of them had picked Viper, strong laning heroes or strong pushing heroes like brood, lone druid or lycan it would've been over
@@Astral_Alchemist Quinn could probably lane just fine against a herald Viper, though it would at least have slowed him down a bit and the break would be nice.
might i add that playing shaman + lion would probably trivialise the game too 😂
@@kelzangtobgyel3887 Quinn actually had 5 hero bans and both shaman and lion were on that list. So yeah, they would!
They also could have ratted him like crazy. Bristle has no stuns, all they had to do was push all lanes at once, and wherever he TPS to defend, they immediately tp out. But they fed him to a point he could two shot them, and that was gg
Quinn: "my plan is bristleback" and right then and there i knew the heralds lost.
all they had to do is pick slark
hilarious
@@paulbarclay4114 Slark? No. Viper for break is really all they needed.
@@mikesmith542sounds good doesn’t work, heralds just cant beat bb
@@paulbarclay4114 no they can't defeat him with just a hero pick, they need to be skilled that's what needed
5 DAgons is all that is needed.
"I'm going to pick Bristleback" is already the funniest this video could ever get regardless of what happens after.
The editor cutting the rest was pure comedy.
Jenkins, if I give you all my money, will you 1 v 5 heralds irl?
all 20 cents xD
@@abramcadabros1755nah. This is a big brain play. Give him your debt and watch funny video
I feel like heralds are on average more athletic than a high MMR Dota player
money's not enough, donate one of your kidneys and some of your blood to those in need, then work for community service 10 years straight and maybe, just maybe, Slacks will 1v5 you irl
@@Evoleo i think most heralds are paralysed playing with neuralink
The moment he said "I'm gonna play Bristleback" I knew exactly how this was gonna go lmao
That tower at 3:46 is the real MVP. Only one to kill Quinn in the whole game
The fauntain also killed him.
They are more herald than most heralds. Well deserved defeat.
They just had to try fight him the whole game rather than 5 man down a lane😂😂😂😂
If they 5 man down a lane Quinn just kill them all?@@enijize1234
Ya love to see it! Kudos to the heralds for putting up a not good, but entertaining fight.
Nah they just need to all pick single target spells heroes and quinn is done.@@enijize1234
4 women 1 man didnt help (unless some were voice changing rats, one sounded sus). Its rare for women to play dota and even rarer for them to be good at it. In all my years of dota i've only played with maybe 50 women who made themselves known via mic, and only a few actually carried my ass. Unsurprisingly she was raging more than the rest of us at our stupid moves, which was funny and kind of felt pride in someone else for the first time.
Somehow I feel like Quinn + 4 heralds team will be worse than solo Quinn
Now you should do a Rank 10 v 5 heralds, so on and forth, till a point where we find out at what rank equates to the power of 5 heralds
Rank 10 is still high I think just a regular immortal can still defeat heralds with a hero like BB
Let's go other way and Rank 1 vs 5 Guardians
perfect
I dont think another hero can do it other than BB tbh
jugg, naix,tinker
Jenkins does the best and most unique dota content atm
check BlitzSpanks, not just reviewing but actual content
@@Ugly_Casanova its trash
@@Ugly_Casanova for me jenkins is likeable, blitzspanks is not.
very different content in my opinion.
@@Ugly_Casanova not gonna watch a dude complaining how dota isnt similar enough to league
@williamshakemilk2192 he never does that. He is the best content creator in dota ATM. After him, imo is the story of dota and number 2 and bsj at number 3. Jenkins is like 5 or 6 at best.
Glad to see Quinn didn't go AFK
HAHAHAHA
context? I live under a rock
@@Schpitquinn griefs in ranked games a lot
@@Schpit Sometimes he calls gg around 10min either because he lost the lane or his team lost their lanes
@AnimeFalco not anymore. He has improved.
And these are US heralds, so basically negative MMR. This is bullying
hahahahahahaha
we about to see peak herald gameplay
I love Jenkins' harem of Heralds that he can just summon for shit like this
Jenkins is beastmaster irl
The real big brain strat would be for herald to put shadow shaman in the side lane, let him farm and then ifinite chain cc the bristle while they end the game
You know there are reasons they are herald lol
@@ReiMiiz Yeh I didn't even see a silver edge? One of the heroes rushes that and it shouldn't be too hard.
Quinn had 5 bans and Shaman was one of them (lion, bane, NP, and I forget the last one)
@@stuart2941u sure?? Quin just need sange for stat resist not tht hard to counter silver
@@stuart2941 Clinkz built a silver edge. It was barely relevant for one fight and then quinn bought a windwaker.
Contrary to popular belief, five people teleporting to someone with an early power spike doesn't nullify the power spike. 🤭
More of this please. Good shit
That BSJ roast sent me into a frenzy of laughter LOL
"Like a serial killer running around having his way with his victims... really horrible.. very BSJ type stuff here.....
But BSJ would be losing"
There are so many approaches they could have had to this: a line up of crazy split pushers, a hardcore anti-carry lineup with like doom viper and ursa to guaranteed kill anyone, or a mid trilane that could actually threaten a kill at lvl 1 for just approaching the wave. What they went with feels like something in the middle of those but doesn't manage to do any of them. Still, that's what makes heralds heralds I guess.
They are herald, what do you expect with pick
they pick what they want to play
They picked primal who has built in break with ahgs. Even if you can’t manfight bb when broken it’ll at least discourage him from diving a bit. Unfortunately, primal never built ahgs
Doom would've literally wrecked the BB pick with a single button for an easy win
@@iamalucard100 Build aghs when?
He had 8k net worth when the game was over lmao
@@iamalucard100 he didnt bulid aghs lol also Underlord would be a lot better than primal because of firestorm and pit would be hard to deal with. Also his gate
I haven’t even finished watching but the second I heard the herald say “we’re going to tri one mid” i know there is not a chance in hell they don’t lose by minute 6. Especially against a bristle that’s sounds absolutely suicidal.
The fact that they didn't change their strategy immediately upon seeing the bristle is just pure herald 😂
Quinn "divulging his strategy" is the best part of this video lmao
The best strategy: Im gonna pick Bristleback
I am herald myself, and i promise you that's not herald thats puting a lol player straight into dota
This was fantastic! The editing was great too, didn't feel like anything was cut off, and felt like we caught everything.
Quinn banned shadow shaman, there are at least 6 comments asking why the heralds didn't pick shaman
heralds allergic to hitting creeps who knew
Great turnaround time on the edit - Bravo! Was fun watching live!
I'm letting your boss know you were watching during work
Golden age of Dota 2 content, first the Ceb hot take tier list, now this - what a time to be alive.
Atleast the heralds sound like they're having fun😂
You just answered the dota questions that keep me awake at night, have my sub
The herald strategy is wrong from the beginning.Tri lane does not get u advantage,it’s a throw or it would’ve been the norm in pubs. So what they should’ve done is just to put a viper mid passively clearing the wave meanwhile put 2 siege heroes such as lycan,visage,np,brood at each other lane.There’s no way against such pushing 1v5 no matter how good a player is
Actually in a real 1 v 3, tri lane makes that lane completely unplayable if they are using lock down heroes that will zone you from the lane. These are just heralds and they picked zero lock down power for their tri lane 😂
@@Delimon007 its just like an offlane scenario wherein u nid to use good surviving hero against multiple heroes
@@Delimon007 if ur opponents play tri lane against u in pub,just put a kotl 4 in that lane and pick a jungle farm hero. That’s exactly why tri lane only exists at the very early dota1 meta. And tri lane was actually the norm in pubs until ppl figured 2,1,2 is better and more consistent
yea no shit,
Jenkins didn't mention but Quinn made some rules before playing. No hex heroes, split pushers etc and he's only gonna play bristle
I loved to see "Comms reveal" at end, that was nice :D
as a herald, these heralds are absolute garbage.
BB does this against immortals as well, lol. The hero has been OP in pub/non-tourny situations for the longest time.
i would love to see a video with the comms of herrald
"OMGGGGggg what is happeninggggg?"
i don't even understand why heralds didn't just go all out 5 mid from the start, easier to push, to kill and end early. It's 1v5 anyway, there's basically no objectives on top and bot lane cuz the pro are on mid
Cuz they are heralds
Jenkers looking healthy. Keep at it man
you have no idea how much i enjoy watching this video please more of that
Easy bots are better than this tho
This is excellent! Well done bro!
This was less DotA2 and more DbD with an extra survivor but less toxic.
Glad to see Quinn read my comment on your poll, lol. I was so happy to see he picked Bristle.
I'm so mad I missed this live! Jenkins, you're awesome.
The 3 mid was a good idea. They just needed to not actually fight him and just try to prevent him from getting CS. The Heralds should have picked Doom Lich and Disruptor for the mid. They should have picked Clinkz and Nature's Prophet for the side lanes to maximize their pushing and rating potential. If they just pushed everywhere and refused to fight him they could have won.
Fun stuff. Back in DotA Allstars, you could disable one line and play 2v2. Undefeated combo was venge drow both rushing 4 wbs + helm of dominator.
what do you mean disable one line? just delete a lane from the map or...?
The disabled lane will not spawn creeps. But you can still attack the tower if you can go past the backdoor protection if I remember it correctly.
and now i have to meet smurfs almost everygame thanks to you jenkins
Petition for a quinn +4 heralds against 5 legends/ancient where the sum of mmr is about the same
sure win for the legend/ancient as the 4 heralds is no help at all but just nice feeds
"gg sir's"? definitely not quinn. otherwise i would have expected a "get fucked noobs. git gut"
It’s a little crazy how bad these people are
true, they were bad even for herald standard and i''ve have friends who are in that bracket
@@gamingchair6066 They're often at least decent at playing their own heroes, but not these guys. Unless of course they didn't play their usual heroes for some reason, but that'd just be weird.
@@randomguy6822 exactly my point, its like they hand picked em xd
Quinn perfectly knows the distance of Quill Spray.
It's like he can see the circle in his head.
your probably see dragons in your head
Quinn spray
you can alt click abilities and it will keep the abilities range permently displayed i do it for my XP range indicator during lane works with anything that show a range indicator its good to turn it on for your right click range on certain heros like sniper or drow also really usefull for blinkdagger as it will make sure you dont blink outside the max range and lose some range on your blink
@@Yummysnak Is this real?
This pack of heralds missed the 2 great ones: CreamPuffStrenght and Jimins Bulge. If these two were on the team, the heralds would had a easy victory.
What I've been tryna say
I've always wanted to see this exact thing, your best video dude.
This is great content. Keep this up jenkins.
As soon as I saw the title, I knew it would be solo bb. It’s the one of the few if not the only hero that can do this consistently.
Yup, Phantom Assassin, Antimage, Silencer, Phantom Lancer, Centaur, Huskar, Slark, Razer and Luna can all do this, with varying item reqs. Morph+Meepo+Naga can do it with more skill. Lone Druid, Prophet and Lycan can also do some of that.
I was 0% surprised by this result
Yes
how? we saw 5 heralds smash 3 like 7-8k players in an earlier one of this series
sure quinn is much stronger than 8k but 3 8k players would beat quinn every time
@@Six_slotted I don't believe that for a second, you must've dreamt it. What is the video called?
And yeah, obviously Quinn wouldn't have any chance against 3 half decent players (and 8k is miles above 'decent') but that's completely irrelevant. He isn't that much better than 8k players in the first place.
3v1 mid against a bristleback is potentially the single most herald idea I've seen and I'm two minutes in.
Comments full of people explaining how the Heralds could have easily won. All of them forgetting a very key detail in all of this; they are Heralds.
The absolute confidence in how he said "Bristleback" I knew it was fuckin over hahaha
Even when losing mid as 3v1, heralds still don't want to abandon mid. That is peak herald.
What an entertaining performance! Thx Jenkins and Quinn!
Do guardian next
Guardians will win. They know what theyre doing somewhat
Interesting to watch, that did not turn out the way I thought. Good on Quinn for playing!
I love the fucking typos. I'm all in on that type of shit lmao
WTF how come they didn’t invite me?? When doing an experiment the first thing u need to make sure is the control group doesn’t change!!! U gotta keep the old herald team for it to be fair and accurate experiment! SMH BOULDER
Main protagonist party vs the final boss ahh game
What a masterclass of skill. Lots of base mechanics, warding, knowing your limits and impulse control to learn here!
Quinn knew how to krump them. I don't see any better option than Bristle for this. Legion commander could get broken eventually, but not from the beginning.
@@Mike-wu7ie You know what a herald is?
This is pure good content lol. pls keep it up!
pick nature's prophet or a brood mother, dumb to not just split push. it wouldn't be a pretty win but that's the only advantage. was also dumb for clinkz and primal to come mid and not just camp the side lanes for as long as possible.
Quinn banned NP. (among others)
@@DrZaius3141 surely there were better split pushers than a singular clinkz tho
@@ghoulishshadow you know what a herald is?
@@DrZaius3141 he didn't ban doom
which is crazy that no one pick doom
It seems Bristle would be a pretty poor choice but then you forget how poor Herald decision making is, feeding Bristle making him faceroll everything. I'd have guessed Quinn would pick a proper carry and assassinate ppl then be able to easily go 1v5. Quinn put all-in on Heralds making extremely poor decisions by picking Bristle and it paid really well. Dying to Bristle passive for no reason is a classic herald move, especially team cooperation to wipe together.
no reason to overthink when bristle is the bane of heralds
lvl 5 at 15 minutes in a 5v1 is wild
1-3-1 are already disaster to begin with
quinn showing his skill by pressing 2 buttons amazing as usual
There are items as well.
Why don't you do it yourself and become the number 1 player? It's easy anyways right?
@@adityagautam7840ikr? he be hatin fr😂
@@averkinswing7891 just a noob who thinks he is the best
@@adityagautam7840 nice description of quinn well done sir
Why they went 3 people mid is beyond me. Just put a Shaman mid who can perma stun him with E and stop him from farming and someone else who can farm with impunity due to that. The other 3 people one top one bot to free farm and one jungle for more free farm since he can probably take their jungle too. 3 free farmers = gg but hey it's heralds. . .
Edit: By that last statement, I meant that they can't farm for jack so I dunno if that would have even worked 😂
That snapfire set look awesome never know that exist.
I thought it was ogre magi until they cast the spells
@@ahmadburhanhabibisame here
@@ahmadburhanhabibisame
this is the content that i need in You tube .
funniest shit ever
1 Immortal + 4 Heralds vs 1 Immortal + 4Heralds, Captain draft, gonna be great content to watch lol
Apparently, Quinn banned Rhasta, Lion, Bane, Monkey King and Furion
if they just picked an Antimage like bruh or Bought Multiple Diffusial Blades....
@@ErdnußRiegel6969 yeah cause deleting 135 mana from him before getting 2 shot will change anything, whats ur rank?
@@trussikactually, AM is not a bad pick here. AM is very good at split pushing, his mana burn can slow BB to a halt, and his blink will force BB to buy Orchid, not to mention BB at early game before having Bloodstone will be constantly having low mana meaning more damage for mana void. AM can also get Abyssal to lock down BB. And a free farming AM is a very fast ticking time bomb.
Try to face yourself in the mirror before you mock others.
@@CorvoTanuaryou are forgetting a big point in here: they are heralds.
@@729usbow no sh*t man, we ain't blind.
If any hero could pull this off it's Bristleback. Would love to see this again with other heroes.
That was incredibly satisfying.
eyyyy jenkins nice content as always. but i have a super secret sauce for your videos. there is this russian guy meeponegeroi on youtube that makes these kind of videos with moded stuff and pro players. like making invoker with god mode as he calls it, and putting up 5 pros against 1 pro player on this "god" moded hero. pretty fun stuff and also balanced. his custom games are available to anyone so you can just download it. i wonder what it would look like if it was eu/us players, rather than cis region players
Next time, please make it a 1v9 game. 1v5 is too easy for #1 player. He has to have 4 toxic team mates, where each of them is trying to feed the opponent. This game wasn't realistic at all. He had wards available. Camps were free to farm. Dusts and gems were available too. In a real game, a toxic player feeds himself, gives away wards, gems, and rapiers, and tells the opponent team where his team mates farm.
The herald team lacked gold because of not having enough enemy heroes to kill.
this should be top tomment
Interesting content as always Jenkins!
My dude picked 5 brain dead people from some hospital and called them haralds that be some TH-camr moment right there
Every herald is a brain dead herald bro
@@729usbow nah man harald is gold
Free and clean minds they cook like no other
My main strategy vs bristle is to completely ignore him and stay away.
The strat should have been 1 top 1 bottom, 1 jungle and 2 that can clear wave mid. Super greedy and overwhlem with networth and splitpush. Jungle isn't good in 5v5 but in a game like this, nature prophet can push any lane and BB can't catch every push. Also always have a TP scroll
This is who we use to win Low prio games way back when people use to 5 man mid
i didnt watch the stream but i assume what hero quinn is about to use isnt revealed yet.
if quinn pick like a medusa he could possibly outpush and outfarm the herald
You absolutely do not want to put multiple heroes mid. You're only feeding quinn and taking pressure off the sidelanes. If I was coaching the heralds I would tell them to pick Kotl mid whose job for the entire game is to mirror quinn and spam Q on the wave from a mile away, two zoo heroes whose job is to occupy the 2 lanes quinn isn't in and push hard, and two CC heroes like Bane and Shadow Shaman whose job is to support the push strat in the early game, and then once getting sufficient levels in their skills they follow quinn around and keep him chain stunned to waste his time and prevent him from tping to defend his rax
@@dm9910 The 2 heroes mid wouldn't lane in the traditional sense. Only spamming long range wave clear in case Quinn push early. Kotl like you said and maybe a lina. The other heroes also need to be good at hitting towers. In this game, pretty much only Clinks could hit towers. Also, their lack of tp in the beginning when Quinn still couldn't 2 shot them was a mistake. Late game, he did so much damage it didn't matter, but in the beginning there's no way he kills you during tp channel
Said the same thing. Mid doesn't need to farm though, just perma CC and zone/deny. The other 3 should take care of the farming and ratting.
@@dm9910
You absolutely DO want 2 heroes mid so the others get the same XP and farm as him.
This gives me PTSD over a game 12 years ago where 4 enemy players disconnected minute 1 and we still lost lol
(with me helplessly playing AM attempting to get some farm while my team chainfeeds 1 by 1)
Honestly props to the heralds, they werent doing that bad. For being the lowest rank they still knew to split push, buy silveredge and vessel to counter, going trilane mid so other 2 can farm freely. Some of these things not even divines do because of ego blinding them.
Are you insane ? They were playing worse than bots
@@theswordsman7114 they were DEFINATELLY playing better than insane bots, Ik that because I can pick void, go 6 moonshards and still win. Bots don't know how to split push, which, imo is the biggest counter to 1v5.
@@TheMartuxzdepends on the bots. Basic bots these days start running into the fountain if u pick me and turn into a bounty rune. Not literally but yeah that is not exactly a dignified comparison anymore. There r modded bots but with stuff like new player mode and far better tutorials I don't think we will be seeing better bots soon.
I mean, the trilane mid did more bad than good. Fed quinn a triple kill. Twice.
@@loveluclins obviously because they are heralds but atleast they had 2 heroes same level as him at that point
Dude the herald comm about the trilane got me wheezing uncontrollably xd
2:30 "oh my goddduh what is happeninggguh" zesty mf
Zoomer speak
Had i not seen newsham lose, i would have been very sure that quinn would have won. i was only fairly sure
Imagine not buying Ghost Scepter to nullify everything Bristleback can do to you
Or multiple Diffu Blades
@@ErdnußRiegel6969
^^^^^^^
Typically, you have to build around the other heroes on the map. There's only one. . . just meteor hammer split push, have 2 people with strong CC so they can't do jack, and some mana burners so they still can't do jack and you win. You don't NEED to know who they are playing with this strat either. It's 1 v 5 FFs.
'They're your idols' haha that was quick and pretty funny
BANNING Bristleback LITERALLY gets me from Herald to Divine
15:04 quinn cinnulingus 💀
ah yes what a fun and fair hero
When I saw the caption I knew the rank 1 won't lose, the caption was so obvious.
jenkins looks so breedable
why you guys so thirsty for the jenkussy
ngl this was amazing like when we had that 10v10 dota back in the days of TI fun stage
heralds women is worst than heralds, ez quinn win
Don't be misogynistic.
The next challenge should be "Can quinn beat 5 heralds if he has 4 passive bots on his team who constantly feed"