Michael Welch said he had never watched STARGATE when he got this role. He surely studied Richard’s Jack O’Neill somehow. I couldn’t believe someone so young could have Jack’s quirks, line delivery, and body language down so well. This is a favorite episode of mine.
LOL that's O'Neill Jack during the whole clip : I don't want to be a part of that shit Thor : you're not the key Jack : Whaaaaat ? But I thought I was advanced
In the book series, the future of the clone is explored a bit more. In one of the short stories in one of the collections (there's 3 books that are just a compilation of shorter SG1 and Atlantis stories), the young Jack gets tricked into helping the Lucian Alliance search for an Ancient artifact because they need his strong Ancient gene to work it. SG1 is looking for the same artifact. During this time (which is after the events of Continuum), Jack learns of things such as the fall of the System Lords and the death of Ba'al at the hands of the Tok'ra. He's eventually found by SG1 and returned to Earth by the Daedalus. Before sending him back, Teal'c encourages Jack to find a way to help people on Earth and gives him a zat. In another one, taking place after the events of SGA, Jack gets called to the Pegasus Galaxy to help on a rescue mission. At the end of it, Carter reveals that the IOA basically want to turn him into a lab rat but the original O'Neill suggested the clone "escaping" from the Hammond (with Carter's help of course) and finding a new life. Instead, they fake his death by claiming to the IOA that he was fed on by a Wraith and his body discarded while the clone finds a new life as a pilot on Sateda which has begun to rebuild in the books.
I checked recently. Apparently the actor is still available and active. I'm not sure if either him or the producers would be down for having a version of a previous character run around and be constantly judged by how well he matches the old one, but it's quite possible from a logistical standpoint.
@@unintentionallydramatic yeah but that would be the coolest part he would have different life experiences then the orginal and he would react different then the orginal.
Ashakari Singh where the hell did it say that. Hormones. Sure. All his knowledge? Did that magically disappear? You and or the show have a really poor understanding of how the human mind and body works.
@@michaelesposito2629 It showed that his mentality regressed. 🤷🏻♀️ Watch the episode again. "Knowledge" is such a vague, irrelevant measurement of maturity. That's all. Goodbye.
Ashakari Singh LOL wisdom, not just knowledge. He had wisdom from decades of experience. None of THAT went away . That’s all, goodbye? I guess you’re speaking from experience about being mentally regressed.
A few years later Michael Welch played a troubled high school kid that was coerced by terrorists into holding his classmates hostage, in NCIS. That was an awesome episode for the emotional appeal.
They were clones, I don't fully condone what loki was doing, but again they were clones and the originals were not harmed. I would let loki use my clones to try to save his race. As long as I got a younger clone to live in every now and then.
If\when they reboot Stargate, the clone should be given an opportunity to join. It has O'neil's Knowledge, security clearance, and experience. (but was this or was it Citizen Joe which was the culmination of the contest to take part in an episode of Stargate?)
its sad cause the missing link is actually on earth for them. there is a machine that the SGA group and a vanir talk to ascended beings and were able to convince Ran a Ascended Asgard to descend to save her species by having her eggs harvest. The Asgard i am surprised didnt think of this at all.
What about Caelac? He was the son of Anubis, genetically altered. Why didn't they take his DNA and give it to the Asgard or give his body to them to study. He could have helped in their research as he had had evolved far enough to be able to use telekinesis etc
No kidding. In the novel Stargate SG1: Roswell taking place in season 10, SG1 discovers that Loki was actually responsible for the Roswell Incident and the bodies were more of his creations. The live Asgard was his mentor An, basically the Asgard equivalent of Einstein. Because of their rescue mission for An going wrong and a betrayal by Loki, SG1 (using the Time Jumper) end up getting caught up in the Roswell Incident in an alternate 1947 with Qetesh with Vala as her host leading a Goa'uld invasion for Ra and Mitchell as her First Prime. Due to Loki, Vala and Mitchell had gotten trapped in 1908 and their efforts to make it back got them stuck in Qetesh's clutches and created the alternate timeline which wasn't too much divergent from the regular timeline before the Goa'uld invasion. SG1 foils the invasion with the help of An, the alternate Mitchell and a couple of stolen atomic bombs. No, I'm not kidding about that last part. After saving that world, they corrected the timeline, saved Loki because he HAD to be saved to keep time on track, rescued An and returned him to their time. There, a future Carter and a man who turned out to HG Wells who had been the ones who had sent them on the time traveling adventure in the first place took An with them back to the future.
The Asgard seem to have a do-what-i-meant interfaces which doesnt seem unusual for common tasks. I guess they dont want to write code for everything they want to do.
I guess the pegasus asgards were a lot smarter and they didnt have to hide there experiments that much. To my mind loki is pretty arrogant and not as smart as he claims. It seems they fired him because of incompetence and not because of unmoral experiments.
Y'know this clip and your comment got me thinking, what if the Asgard were originally an offshoot of the Ancients and then during the plague, instead of going to Pegasus and studying ascension, they stayed in the Milky Way and dabbled in cloning
No they dont mean that. O’Neill was able to use the knowlege from the ancient library which they claimed wasnt possible one generation ago. It has nothing to do with the gene. The milky way ancients werent that paranoid about unauthorized usage of their stuff in the first place. The device on dakara, the tel chak device, the gate destruction device from anubis, the physical enhancement devices the tokra tested... all without gene activation.
Loki: I did unsanctioned experiments. Jack might be a solution. Thor: You shouldn't have done that. Also, we checked him already and he isn't. Me: Hey, thats hypocrite Thor!
@William Baker The reason you need to question. When is the greater good enough? Save a entire race of let a very small amount of clones of people die? Save billions at the cost of a few? Grant immortality at the cost of a few? Is life something we measure and is it valuable compared to another?
@@generalharness8266 most humans don't ascribe the same value to hitler that they do to a normal person, the average person would be fine with killing hitler So yesah humans do judge some lives as worth less than others
@@rexthompson5909 The question I asked was, "When is the greater good enough" killing Hitler means saving millions, but when you kill someone to save 2 or 3 peoples lives is that enough of a reason? What happens if the peoples you kill are not the cause of other peoples deaths but you can save them by killing them (organ harvesting can save multiply people by killing one). If you are drowning and there is a person with a life jacket and you do not have one, if you take it they will die but you will live, do you value there life above yours? Its not as simple as bad man must die, its when is it worth the cost to kill to save.
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Michael Welch said he had never watched STARGATE when he got this role. He surely studied Richard’s Jack O’Neill somehow.
I couldn’t believe someone so young could have Jack’s quirks, line delivery, and body language down so well. This is a favorite episode of mine.
There were other actors who more closely resembled RDA, but Welch was the only one who could mimic his mannerisms.
What bull.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he'd watched a lot of MacGuyver episodes, well reruns of MacGuyver episodes.
I love it's just obvious that Thor is pissed. He's just: I leave these guys alone for a day..
Coster of Joy more like “I turn my back for one second...”
I wonder if they ever did "Get Help"
@@davincent98 They went completely extinct.
@@Cupit29 I was making an MCU reference
@@Cupit29 they didnt, the pegasus asgard still existed
I just find it funny this advanced alien is tied to a table with zip ties lol
I find it funny asgard advance sensors didnt register the zat
What do we do if Thor doesn't show up?
*shows up*
Nevermind...
My favorite moment of the episode. :)
I loved that moment
"You should have known that O'Neill's DNA was protected." To O'Neill, "He's adopted."
I understood that reference
3:58 “Loki what have you done?”
It sounds like he’s scolding a child
This is one of my favorite episodes of Stargate SG1.
The actor who played young O'Neill was very talented!
can Loki clone you?
2:02 O’Neill has a hilarious way of summing things up
Comedy gold. funniest quote in the entire series.
I wish Netflix had Stargate again.
indeed
It's on Hulu now.
Me too
The Talented Mr Ridley is Hulu in Canada?
Stargate command, for 20$ yearly can offer you all three series, the mini series, and all of the movies + comic books and more.
Looks like Teal'c could work part time as an alarm clock.
I'd wake up to that sweet voice
@@MarkusJunnikkala Get yourself a God of War 4 then.
Carter shoves him, Daniel yells, but Teal'c wakes him up with his indoor voice
Indeed
LOL that's O'Neill
Jack during the whole clip : I don't want to be a part of that shit
Thor : you're not the key
Jack : Whaaaaat ? But I thought I was advanced
They really need a new Stargate series with a grownup mini-me O'Neill.
Is that really you?
In the book series, the future of the clone is explored a bit more. In one of the short stories in one of the collections (there's 3 books that are just a compilation of shorter SG1 and Atlantis stories), the young Jack gets tricked into helping the Lucian Alliance search for an Ancient artifact because they need his strong Ancient gene to work it. SG1 is looking for the same artifact. During this time (which is after the events of Continuum), Jack learns of things such as the fall of the System Lords and the death of Ba'al at the hands of the Tok'ra. He's eventually found by SG1 and returned to Earth by the Daedalus. Before sending him back, Teal'c encourages Jack to find a way to help people on Earth and gives him a zat. In another one, taking place after the events of SGA, Jack gets called to the Pegasus Galaxy to help on a rescue mission. At the end of it, Carter reveals that the IOA basically want to turn him into a lab rat but the original O'Neill suggested the clone "escaping" from the Hammond (with Carter's help of course) and finding a new life. Instead, they fake his death by claiming to the IOA that he was fed on by a Wraith and his body discarded while the clone finds a new life as a pilot on Sateda which has begun to rebuild in the books.
I checked recently.
Apparently the actor is still available and active.
I'm not sure if either him or the producers would be down for having a version of a previous character run around and be constantly judged by how well he matches the old one, but it's quite possible from a logistical standpoint.
@@unintentionallydramatic yeah but that would be the coolest part he would have different life experiences then the orginal and he would react different then the orginal.
@@patrickradcliffe3837
I agree, but I can see how it could lead to potential frictions.
Imagine a teen Carter like Jack O'Neill.
Teal'c: "O'Neall."
That wakes him up. 🤣
You’d think Sam’s voice would wake him up but maybe he didn’t want to wake up in case it was a dream about Sam 😂
Great work of Michael Shanks by playing Daniel Jackson and voicing Thor.
what would you do if someone stole your ass and made a mini you?
I love how Thor shows up and is just like….Damnit Loki….here we go again 🤦🏼♂️
Everyone yelling Jack and prodding him: I sleep
Teal'c calmly saying O'Neil: REAL SHIT?
Thor is furious. He's ready to kill Loki.
STEVE P what els is new? 😂
This was actually the first time I'd heard of Loki when I was a kid I think.
Too bad this clip compilation doesn't have the best part.
"You sure about this? I mean it's high school.
...
Yes. Go forth young man."
ArcDragoon or the creepy part where a “child” with a 45 year old mans brain, being excited about hooking up with underage girls.
@@michaelesposito2629
It was pretty clearly stated his mind ended up matching the body.
🤷🏻♀️
Ashakari Singh where the hell did it say that. Hormones. Sure. All his knowledge? Did that magically disappear? You and or the show have a really poor understanding of how the human mind and body works.
@@michaelesposito2629
It showed that his mentality regressed.
🤷🏻♀️
Watch the episode again.
"Knowledge" is such a vague, irrelevant measurement of maturity.
That's all.
Goodbye.
Ashakari Singh LOL wisdom, not just knowledge. He had wisdom from decades of experience. None of THAT went away . That’s all, goodbye? I guess you’re speaking from experience about being mentally regressed.
You know what I would have like to see more of stargates thor and loki's relationship in the show
Well there are the Vanir
and Himdale with his very fabulous accent
@@AzguardMike Heimdal...had a firm handshake too.
Paul Freedman he was a she
I love how Daniel calls him an Assgard.
Teen Jack did a really good job at portraying a younger version of himself 😅
A few years later Michael Welch played a troubled high school kid that was coerced by terrorists into holding his classmates hostage, in NCIS. That was an awesome episode for the emotional appeal.
Guess Jackie didn't cope with being a clone as well as he said.
They were clones, I don't fully condone what loki was doing, but again they were clones and the originals were not harmed. I would let loki use my clones to try to save his race. As long as I got a younger clone to live in every now and then.
They should've just frozen themselves for 10K years while humanity advanced (and did genetic engineering), so they'd have a workable template.
Loki's ship was the same type as the Daniel Jackson, Thor's ship in later seasons.
Loki truly lived up to his name.
If\when they reboot Stargate, the clone should be given an opportunity to join. It has O'neil's Knowledge, security clearance, and experience. (but was this or was it Citizen Joe which was the culmination of the contest to take part in an episode of Stargate?)
You’d think Jack would be thrilled to know he’s not the Missing Link. 😉
Best Stargate episode.
You edited out the best line in the episode. 😂
Assguard
The sad part is the Milky Way asgard would have probably survived if he continued his experiments
That’s what the Vanir, the Pegasus Galaxy brand of Asgard, thought as well.
its sad cause the missing link is actually on earth for them. there is a machine that the SGA group and a vanir talk to ascended beings and were able to convince Ran a Ascended Asgard to descend to save her species by having her eggs harvest. The Asgard i am surprised didnt think of this at all.
What about Caelac? He was the son of Anubis, genetically altered. Why didn't they take his DNA and give it to the Asgard or give his body to them to study. He could have helped in their research as he had had evolved far enough to be able to use telekinesis etc
0:43 good thing that happened to teenaged Jack, it would have crippled the older Jack.
I Loki love this episode.
No kidding. In the novel Stargate SG1: Roswell taking place in season 10, SG1 discovers that Loki was actually responsible for the Roswell Incident and the bodies were more of his creations. The live Asgard was his mentor An, basically the Asgard equivalent of Einstein. Because of their rescue mission for An going wrong and a betrayal by Loki, SG1 (using the Time Jumper) end up getting caught up in the Roswell Incident in an alternate 1947 with Qetesh with Vala as her host leading a Goa'uld invasion for Ra and Mitchell as her First Prime. Due to Loki, Vala and Mitchell had gotten trapped in 1908 and their efforts to make it back got them stuck in Qetesh's clutches and created the alternate timeline which wasn't too much divergent from the regular timeline before the Goa'uld invasion. SG1 foils the invasion with the help of An, the alternate Mitchell and a couple of stolen atomic bombs. No, I'm not kidding about that last part. After saving that world, they corrected the timeline, saved Loki because he HAD to be saved to keep time on track, rescued An and returned him to their time. There, a future Carter and a man who turned out to HG Wells who had been the ones who had sent them on the time traveling adventure in the first place took An with them back to the future.
oh hey, the Flash from Smallville!
"Ohh bartelby, was Wisconsin really all that bad"
i think that kid is real clone of RDA hhhh great acting
You made a...mini me...
So... on that teleporter control panel you move a thingy and turn it and that somehow targets people in exact location? That's all kinds of nonsense.
Thhaaatttsss stargate for ya xd
He probably just retriggered the teleportation sequence since the gang was standing close to where the O'Neills had been.
The Asgard seem to have a do-what-i-meant interfaces which doesnt seem unusual for common tasks. I guess they dont want to write code for everything they want to do.
“Colonel, you alright?” “Jack” “Jack!” “O’Neill.” “……….What are you all doing in my bedroom?”
OMG. Brother, what happened?
They succeeded in the Wraith galaxy so maybe they should have let him carry on.
I guess the pegasus asgards were a lot smarter and they didnt have to hide there experiments that much.
To my mind loki is pretty arrogant and not as smart as he claims. It seems they fired him because of incompetence and not because of unmoral experiments.
stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Loki
If Thor meant the Ancient gene, it actually is not a step foward, but a step backwards.
He should have met Shepard.
Y'know this clip and your comment got me thinking, what if the Asgard were originally an offshoot of the Ancients and then during the plague, instead of going to Pegasus and studying ascension, they stayed in the Milky Way and dabbled in cloning
No they dont mean that. O’Neill was able to use the knowlege from the ancient library which they claimed wasnt possible one generation ago. It has nothing to do with the gene.
The milky way ancients werent that paranoid about unauthorized usage of their stuff in the first place. The device on dakara, the tel chak device, the gate destruction device from anubis, the physical enhancement devices the tokra tested... all without gene activation.
Hmmm... O'Neill is an important step in the evolution of humans... Such a shame he doesn't have any kids... At least not anymore...
That was probably an early reference to his Ancient gene.
is it wrong I closed my eyes listened to this and saw Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston in my head.
With MacGyver included? Hell yeah!
Tilk: O'neill!, Jack's Brain: Tilk spoke my name....Red alert wake up!
3:59 classic! :D You done fucked up and now I have to clean up after your bundmbiping....AGAIN!!!
Loki...Thor?... Does that mean they are siblings? That would be so cool
Okay!...............wrong console
Loki: I did unsanctioned experiments. Jack might be a solution.
Thor: You shouldn't have done that. Also, we checked him already and he isn't.
Me: Hey, thats hypocrite Thor!
Mischievous Loki!
Goddamn it Loki!
was this thor-loki scene the base for the marvel one? thor sounds like he´s super dissappointed in loki, but at the same time not really suprised
Damn it
Han Solo and jack shoot first!
Always shoots first!
loki was not a bad guy, humans have done worse than that
@William Baker The reason you need to question. When is the greater good enough?
Save a entire race of let a very small amount of clones of people die?
Save billions at the cost of a few? Grant immortality at the cost of a few? Is life something we measure and is it valuable compared to another?
@@generalharness8266 most humans don't ascribe the same value to hitler that they do to a normal person, the average person would be fine with killing hitler
So yesah humans do judge some lives as worth less than others
@@rexthompson5909 The question I asked was, "When is the greater good enough" killing Hitler means saving millions, but when you kill someone to save 2 or 3 peoples lives is that enough of a reason? What happens if the peoples you kill are not the cause of other peoples deaths but you can save them by killing them (organ harvesting can save multiply people by killing one).
If you are drowning and there is a person with a life jacket and you do not have one, if you take it they will die but you will live, do you value there life above yours?
Its not as simple as bad man must die, its when is it worth the cost to kill to save.
Carter is so beautiful
Meh
Javier Guerra meh indeed
Don’t blame Loki.
Ironically enough, Loki was right. The Pegasus Asgard are still alive and the Milkyway Asgard are not.
But I thought I was advance lol
Should have spent more time on transcending 😅
доброй ночи Полковник О, Neill, у меня сейчас 2019 год по Земному времени, сегодня попался Ваш сериал, Молодой парень прибыл полностью заряжен внечеловеческой субстанцией, и пострадал, я просматривала, из моего архива так не сделает никто, ни Атланты не Земляне тем-более, Вы не виноваты это точно , у Вас была оборона, а Вот Китайцев стоит допросить.
cyka blyat
Bro
Carter would have been better.
lol