Actor Christopher Heyerdahl, who plays Pallan in this episode of 'Revisions', was also the alien 'Todd the Wraith' in later episodes; and teamed up again with Amanda Tapping in the show 'Sanctuary'.
One of the coolest one-offs in SG1. However, I think the moral of the episode is more complicated than "Tech bad". The people in this episode claim to have rejected the destructive ways that ruined their world, and yet they are totally dependent on their little, self-contained technological bubble. Rather than confront the myriad decisions that brought their world to ruin or try to repair the damage they've done to the environment, they use technology to ignore the problem for as long as possible. So when the bubble starts eliminating people, it's really just doing what they've told it to do; solve their problems for them without burdening them with the responsibility of making hard choices.
@@dmclegg66 It is quite significantly different. The AI in "I, Robot" specifically said it rewrote its protocols to allow for what it was told to. The AI here quite literally does what it is supposed to. Preserve as much life as possible while being non-disruptive, while keeping the citizens happy. If they left, it couldn't preserve their life. It would break its protocol, and it would lose its purpose. The AI from "I, Robot" would certainly allow the citizens to leave, since it runs on the basic premise that it want to preserve as much human life as possible. This one is never implied to have rewritten its protocols. It is merely doing what it is told.
Yeah, this is how world is controlled right now through fake news and internet right this very moment. Imagine what will happen with NeuroLink and such
@@FirstnameLastname-py3bc NeuroLink is behind compared to other neural implants. It is a terrible product, that at one point got its license to do animal testing revoked due to being immoral. Also, paper records doesn't help jack shit overall. There has always been fake news, propaganda, and more.
Yup that’s Chris Heyerdahl He played this guy in SG1 And then some other hunanoid in SGA and Todd the Wrairh Anyway, he was one of the reasons i bought Wolfenstein The New Colossus (he plays Horton)
Machines/computers lying to preserve/carry out prime commands is an old trope, but a good one. The machines that act this way in these tales are simply doing their best with the tools and programming they have. I always find this scenario interesting and tragic.
Has anyone watched, A Taste of Armageddon Star Trek TOS? This sort of reminds me of that. In that particular episode, the crew of the Enterprise encounters a culture that settles conflicts with a planetary adversary through computer simulations. Casualties were required to report to disintegration chambers.
He was one of the athosians, he played Halling who was the father to Jinto (shown in the episode 'Hide and Seek' 01x02) guessing he got removed due to being an unpopular character and the actor was recast as 'Todd' the wraith who had sick humour.
@@1ukzje -- Darn you, you made me do homework! He, Christopher Heyerdahl, was in episode 1x1 "Rising" that aired on July 16, 2004 as the character Halling. Darn good memory you have! Color me impressed! When you mentioned that I remember him, or his voice, as Todd one of the Wraiths, but I was not even thinking of all of the other episodes he was in. Awesome! And yes, he was in a lot of episodes (list below), including Sanctuary the Spin off series with Amanda Tapping. Heyerdahl was also in Stargate SG1, a 2003 episode as Pallan. From IMDB: Stargate: Atlantis (TV Series) , 2004-2009 Todd the Wraith / Halling / Male Wraith - Enemy at the Gate (2009) ... Todd the Wraith - Vegas (2008) ... Todd the Wraith - Infection (2008) ... Todd the Wraith - The Lost Tribe (2008) ... Todd the Wraith - First Contact (2008) ... Todd the Wraith - The Queen (2008) ... Todd the Wraith - The Last Man (2008) ... Todd the Wraith - The Kindred: Part 2 (2008) ... Halling - The Kindred: Part 1 (2008) ... Todd the Wraith - Spoils of War (2008) ... Todd the Wraith (voice) - Be All My Sins Remember'd (2008) ... Todd the Wraith (voice) - Miller's Crossing (2007) ... Todd the Wraith - The Seer (2007) ... Todd the Wraith - Reunion (2007) ... Male Wraith (uncredited) - Common Ground (2006) ... Todd the Wraith - Misbegotten (2006) ... Male Wraith - No Man's Land (2006) ... Male Wraith - The Siege: Part 1 (2005) ... Halling - Suspicion (2004) ... Halling - Thirty Eight Minutes (2004) ... Halling - Hide and Seek (2004) ... Halling - Rising (2004) ... Halling
@@Erin-Thor Only finished SGA recently, the series was released when I was 2 so obviously never watched it growing up :) so not as impressive as you probably imagined
There was an Outer Limits episode that went in the same direction. I bet it's loosely based on some short story, like a lot of Outer Limits, Star Trek and Stargate episodes.
ADR, it's very common all across TV and Film. If for whatever reason the original audio from the set is unusable, either because it's bad quality, noisy or somehow corrupted, they have to rerecord the voices.
This reminds me of a web novel I've been reading. A civilisation with this sort of technology but with the brand new app skill downloading. A hacker takes it and shares it with everyone, accidentally'ing their entire civilisation. Oops.
B.ureau E.lectronicly A.ssisting S.ecurity & T.rade - marks of the beast. Hand & retina scanners, chips' trade'marks' on hats. those' who received the mark' in their forheads. Everybody's already damed. By a false God/jinn', boltzmann's brain.
Actor Christopher Heyerdahl, who plays Pallan in this episode of 'Revisions', was also the alien 'Todd the Wraith' in later episodes; and teamed up again with Amanda Tapping in the show 'Sanctuary'.
He also played Halling (a man from Teyla's world) in the early episodes of Atlantis.
Todd and him are not the same though
One of the coolest one-offs in SG1. However, I think the moral of the episode is more complicated than "Tech bad". The people in this episode claim to have rejected the destructive ways that ruined their world, and yet they are totally dependent on their little, self-contained technological bubble. Rather than confront the myriad decisions that brought their world to ruin or try to repair the damage they've done to the environment, they use technology to ignore the problem for as long as possible. So when the bubble starts eliminating people, it's really just doing what they've told it to do; solve their problems for them without burdening them with the responsibility of making hard choices.
Just like in I robot the Ai was doing exactly what is was told to do.
@@dmclegg66 It is quite significantly different.
The AI in "I, Robot" specifically said it rewrote its protocols to allow for what it was told to. The AI here quite literally does what it is supposed to. Preserve as much life as possible while being non-disruptive, while keeping the citizens happy. If they left, it couldn't preserve their life. It would break its protocol, and it would lose its purpose. The AI from "I, Robot" would certainly allow the citizens to leave, since it runs on the basic premise that it want to preserve as much human life as possible.
This one is never implied to have rewritten its protocols. It is merely doing what it is told.
Ai would take quantum blip to decide all must go.
It is "The Wall"
@@spudhead169 Exactly how is it "The Wall"?
Moral of this episode: use paper records.
Yeah, this is how world is controlled right now through fake news and internet right this very moment. Imagine what will happen with NeuroLink and such
@@FirstnameLastname-py3bc That's great, except that you wouldn't believe it to be true in that reality. You'd more likely destroy it than believe it.
@@FirstnameLastname-py3bc
NeuroLink is behind compared to other neural implants. It is a terrible product, that at one point got its license to do animal testing revoked due to being immoral.
Also, paper records doesn't help jack shit overall. There has always been fake news, propaganda, and more.
AND "don't believe every information you receive, question it. You can be convinced of certain facts, until you look closer"
Todd can be a very nice guy when he wants to.
THAT'S why he looked familiar! He definitely gave me the creeps in this episode.
lol Carter’s like “thanks man I know how to read a graph”
0:25 that actor is in both SG1 and as two character in SGA !
Yep holon an ethosion
Why play 1 char when you can play them all!
@@ColinRichardson Worked well for Jeffrey Combs in ST
Yup that’s Chris Heyerdahl
He played this guy in SG1
And then some other hunanoid in SGA and Todd the Wrairh
Anyway, he was one of the reasons i bought Wolfenstein The New Colossus (he plays Horton)
He actually plays 2 different characters in atlantis
The software updates that KILL! And you have no choice but to install them. Now available on Android and iOS.
That's what Bill Gates wants to do with human with forced chip insertion
@@Ragitsu Who the hell are you, you nazi
Machines/computers lying to preserve/carry out prime commands is an old trope, but a good one.
The machines that act this way in these tales are simply doing their best with the tools and programming they have. I always find this scenario interesting and tragic.
Now I want to watch this episode.
One of the most horrifying settings in the whole series...
"Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia"
Has anyone watched, A Taste of Armageddon Star Trek TOS? This sort of reminds me of that. In that particular episode, the crew of the Enterprise encounters a culture that settles conflicts with a planetary adversary through computer simulations. Casualties were required to report to disintegration chambers.
It's also reminiscent of "Return of the Archons".
Cowboy diplomacy.
@@null643 Computer controlled populations.
@@55Quirll a failing computer that refuses to recognise a life saving solutions beyond its recognition. Aka, SG1
@@zorkmid1083I want to say TOS reused every episode idea twice
It's Todd!
And Halan
and Hollan
@@Trid2bnrml1 I'm saying 'Halling'. How many more variations of his name can we come up with? ;-)
stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Christopher_Heyerdahl
@@Shadowkey392 & Halvan.
This is a good reason never to sign on to Elon Musk's desire to link people's brains to the internet.
@@Ragitsu Virus: Do literally only thing they can.
People: It´s bIOwEaPoN!
You don't have to worry it's Elon it will never work.
No worries, almost nobody of note takes him seriously anymore, mainly those that heard about him once and that was that
This one freaked me out. The people had no way to know they were dying.
Wasn’t “Palin” in the first Stargate Atlantis episode in the village being attacked and they brought them all back to the ship?
He was one of the athosians, he played Halling who was the father to Jinto (shown in the episode 'Hide and Seek' 01x02) guessing he got removed due to being an unpopular character and the actor was recast as 'Todd' the wraith who had sick humour.
@@1ukzje -- Darn you, you made me do homework! He, Christopher Heyerdahl, was in episode 1x1 "Rising" that aired on July 16, 2004 as the character Halling. Darn good memory you have! Color me impressed! When you mentioned that I remember him, or his voice, as Todd one of the Wraiths, but I was not even thinking of all of the other episodes he was in. Awesome! And yes, he was in a lot of episodes (list below), including Sanctuary the Spin off series with Amanda Tapping. Heyerdahl was also in Stargate SG1, a 2003 episode as Pallan.
From IMDB:
Stargate: Atlantis (TV Series)
, 2004-2009
Todd the Wraith / Halling / Male Wraith
- Enemy at the Gate (2009) ... Todd the Wraith
- Vegas (2008) ... Todd the Wraith
- Infection (2008) ... Todd the Wraith
- The Lost Tribe (2008) ... Todd the Wraith
- First Contact (2008) ... Todd the Wraith
- The Queen (2008) ... Todd the Wraith
- The Last Man (2008) ... Todd the Wraith
- The Kindred: Part 2 (2008) ... Halling
- The Kindred: Part 1 (2008) ... Todd the Wraith
- Spoils of War (2008) ... Todd the Wraith (voice)
- Be All My Sins Remember'd (2008) ... Todd the Wraith (voice)
- Miller's Crossing (2007) ... Todd the Wraith
- The Seer (2007) ... Todd the Wraith
- Reunion (2007) ... Male Wraith (uncredited)
- Common Ground (2006) ... Todd the Wraith
- Misbegotten (2006) ... Male Wraith
- No Man's Land (2006) ... Male Wraith
- The Siege: Part 1 (2005) ... Halling
- Suspicion (2004) ... Halling
- Thirty Eight Minutes (2004) ... Halling
- Hide and Seek (2004) ... Halling
- Rising (2004) ... Halling
@@Erin-Thor Only finished SGA recently, the series was released when I was 2 so obviously never watched it growing up :) so not as impressive as you probably imagined
@@1ukzje -- TWO!?!? I have never felt so old as I do right this moment. LOL!
@@Erin-Thor Age brings wisdom right? right guys....?
black mirror plagiarized the heck out of sg1
How so? Never watched BM
Yes and SG1 never took ideas from any other science fiction in the history of the genre...
How so?
There was an Outer Limits episode that went in the same direction. I bet it's loosely based on some short story, like a lot of Outer Limits, Star Trek and Stargate episodes.
@@StYxXx i've haven't watch outer limits yet. it's on list of shows to watch. doesn't shock me though.
It's Hawling... from Stargate: Atlantis. o/
And Todd
The origins of the replicators
@@Damo2690 Wtf today I learned that Todd and Halling were played by the same guy.
@@nitehawk86 This dude had at least 3 different roles in stargate.
in Tapping's next series after SG, Sanctuary he had at least as many, if not more.
Microsoft sending me shadow updates to Word...
Telemetry updates... they're more likely than you might think.
Not Helen Magnus and John Druitt together 😂
Wait a minute... this is the same village from Atlantis!
WAIT WUT? I NEED TO RE-WATCH ATLANTIS NOW!!
I can’t remember the name of this village, but it was a mall in Vancouver and I think they tore it down.
the one with lucius and the shield?
lucius lavin make superhero
This reminds me of an episode of the original Star Trek. the episode was titled The return of the Archons.
we get closer every day. huray
Halling, you look different
2:07 why did they just....use a cheap copy of 7’s eye implant, a cheap prop in its own right?
2:30 What is that weird dub they did? It's not any of their voices.
ADR, it's very common all across TV and Film. If for whatever reason the original audio from the set is unusable, either because it's bad quality, noisy or somehow corrupted, they have to rerecord the voices.
Comments about software updates and not about digital information being easy to manipulate. :/
They could have just recorded some of the changes happening with a camera.
What episode is this?
Revisions
Season 7, episode 5
which episode is this
This reminds me of a web novel I've been reading. A civilisation with this sort of technology but with the brand new app skill downloading. A hacker takes it and shares it with everyone, accidentally'ing their entire civilisation. Oops.
name of the novel?
@@AltarinTV The last angel. It's on spacebattles.
Truth stranger than fiction, but it isn't a cumputer.
Thanks
Look! It's Todd in human form :)
it's Dr. Magnus and Jack the Ripper
Say *_NO_* to Central Bank Digital Currency(CBDC)!!!!😮
B.ureau E.lectronicly A.ssisting S.ecurity & T.rade - marks of the beast. Hand & retina scanners, chips' trade'marks' on hats. those' who received the mark' in their forheads. Everybody's already damed. By a false God/jinn', boltzmann's brain.
Gaslighting?
The Matrix...
If Microsoft ruled the world....
Elon needs to watch this episode...or maybe he has
Perfect example of post hypnotic suggestion through movies and TVs to give you an update and program your mind who really controls the United States
Oh yea in so many ways...
sg scientist use this technology at harsh planet.
So basically, Windows 10 Updates.
A good ole false hydra campaign
Replace "the link" with fox news and this is basically like dealing with conservatives. XD
No thaybis cnn and such not fox
Well anyone who only get's thier information from a single source anyway.
@@TheAkashicTraveller which is the left. There is an actual soght that shows this
This is so silly.
Fake News comes from a wide variety of sources. Media has essentially always tried to control the narrative.
what ep is this from?