@@thomasgentry6201Gathering evidence and there is not enough sufficient information to conclude that it was a hate crime. Hate crimes are very hard to provide evidence for unless it is concrete and planned. This attack was unorganized and got out of hand. I do believe in my personal OPINION and seeing the video that the assailants attacked Johnathan with more force because he was white. But there is no way to prove that unless the FBI shows an orchestrated attempt via text messages or phone recordings that the assailants wanted to attack him for being white.
There’s no playing the “devil’s advocate” in this situation. These people had intentionally beat this kid to cause either severe damage or death. They robbed a 17yr old of his life and a father of his son. 25yr minimum term. Regardless of race-this is beyond heartbreaking.
But it was a racial attack - blacks on white - as is the case in 87% of interracial crime between blacks and white;s and quite often it’s a group attack because they’re cowards and they want 5 on 1 or 10 on one. . If this was white Maga hat wearing Republicans, they would’ve already burned the city down by now. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to the acknowledgment of interracial crime. That means 87% of the time the media doesn’t wanna say anything about it and 13% of the time they’re going to prop up, the so-called victim, when, even in those cases, the narrative is distorted, just as it was in the George Floyd case, or the Michael Brown case.
I'm a petite white woman who went to a 'black' junior high school in the late '70's--early 80's. Someone asked in the comments 'why would you send your kid to a school where they're a minority?'. I didn't have a choice--we were essentially bussed in by the school district. I was consistently targeted, bullied, assaulted--all of it. That was from the kids. Some of my teachers, also black, were just as bad. While the teachers didn't assault me, they wouldn't stop it from happening, either, even though they knew it was going on. One teacher was especially bad--I remember her like it was yesterday. I really feel for this child who was killed--I can't fully imagine how frightened he must have been once he realized the full extent of what was suddenly happening.
I went to a predominantly black(90/10) elementary school in the early 70's in the South no less. I can honestly say I never had any issues with any black students. White boys yes but no black students and this in Louisiana.
I think so too but, it's not exactly cowardice. In our world today kids just have no respect for life. Black kids are raised with a chip on their shoulder. I'm trying to diplomatic here but, if you look at statistics black kids are most likely to commit violent crime when in a group. It's the you cover my back and I'll cover yours mentality. The are most likely to be emotionless when in a group. They are not bad kids originally, it is lack of parenting, socialization and education. We need to change the culture in in this country!
The police reported that there were 10 rather than 15. They’ve arrested 8 of the kids so far. Age range is 13-17. This went down just off property and was in an alley. A bystander saw the kid laying there and carried him back to the school. That’s where the 911 call came from. There is a difference between an accident versus intentional. A bottle in the air and hitting a person in the exact spot to cause their death is an accident. If there were charges it would be manslaughter if the DA decided to press charges. These kids combined killed someone, the intent to inflict bodily harm is there. That’s murder. Ignorance of the law or going easy on them due to being under 18 isnt an excuse when the end result is murder. They are recommending to the DA that all of them be charged as adults. If this were my kid, I’d be hit with murder charges after getting even. As a parent, I can’t imagine losing my daughter. My mom had to bury my little brother and that shit was hard to watch her go through.
I had to bury one, my 2nd child. Let me tell you it is the worst and my child wasn't violently hurt, he died of natural causes. Someone UNALIVE my child?? Oh HELL NO! I'd be in prison for getting those little hellions
its not our job to be on the sidelines cheering for hate crime its only going to cause more danger to black people and also white people just look at the palestine kid stabbed 15 times by a white man screaming kiill muslims, people will watch the news and try to commit acts enraged. Instead let the police do the job and decide wether its hate crime or not they probably have more access to evidence than me and you.
theres no need to turn it around, no matter the race. whether it was 15 white or 15 black. the 15 should be in PRISON. y'all gotta stop with the race war bait. call them what they are. they're sheety humans
I think the father is honestly in shock. I don't think I could be that calm if someone killed my child honestly. That's your flesh and blood, and to lose them to such a senseless act is, I'm sure, is hard to comprehend and believe. Someone loses their life defending their smaller friend over a nicotine patch. SMH. This is what happens when kids and young adults have no discipline whatsoever and never face any real consequences. They all deserve to be charged for murder. That was a heinous act!
@@buysncharge Yes, the age was my first minor red flag but his dads comments were extremely oddly worded, apologies to them? Why? Part of a certain cult?
Damn shame. Young man tries to defend another from being assaulted(allegedly) and ends up dead. Ultimate sacrifice. Parents....for God's sake please educate your kids on self defense and consequences. Put them in karate,tkd,bjj....something. They need guidance and discipline. Just horrible, I feel for all involved.
@@middleagedgamers7750 facts but my point is/was: if those 15 had guidance and discipline through a martial art then mayyyyyyybe stuff like this can be avoided.
That's what kills me people would rather record a horrible moment to get clicks and views instead of using the phone to call 911 and help save people. Sad commentary on society these days...
It's crazy that her first reaction watching someone die was pulling out her phone and start recording, the parents are raising a potential killer, that's something Jeffrey Dahmer would do.
My heart breaks for the young man losing his life because he was doing what he felt was right, helping a smaller kid that was being beaten buy a bunch of thugs. My heart goes out to the family of this young man and all his friends. 15 on one is premeditated murder, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
This is the reason my dad moved us away when bussing started. We were bussed to an all black school. My dad moved us to an all white school. I'm not racist but he was taking no chances with his child. Crap like this makes it where I can understand why.
I had the same thing happen to me in high school. I stuck up for small white kid that was being picked on by a black dude. I had no idea there was a bunch more on the other side of the school doors. I was surrounded so fast and was ready to be jumped until I took off my chain belt and started swinging it. This is back in 1980 in Detroit at Denby High School. Maybe 20% white 80% black.
@@tbone9246 You sound like me back in the early 60s. Even though I am a female, I grew up in a neighborhood with 18 boys and 2 of us girls. I was kind of a tomboy. I jumped in many times to defend the handicapped and mentally challenged from the Bullies that would torment them & play on their biggest fears. No one could hold onto me, I was extremely fast and agile. I put many boys in their places. One girl that I protected and removed from a bunch of "popular girls" that were bullying and humiliating her, had never forgotten what I did. Even in our 60s, if she saw me in a store she would shout out my name, run and give me a hug, and tell everyone around us how I protected her from the bullies. I will always protect the weak, helpless, and defenseless from the COWARDS that would never call out someone their own size or one-on-one. Seems they only have courage when they are in a pack, just like all COWARDS. I figure they get what they deserve and more for attacking the helpless. God bless you for standing up for that boy in school!
I like you guys ( Cartier Family ) because you DON'T take the Black side of issues OR the White side , you guys take the COMMON SENSE side. That's what this country needs to do to get ahead , TOGETHER.
I am a professor at a university and was assigned to teach one honors course at an urban high school. Those students were so rude to me. I planned fun activities every day we met, and still students were on their phone laughing at videos, calling me a bitch, and degrading me for being white. It was the worst experience I have ever had as a college professor. I received no assistance from the high school. Even the students who wanted to participate in the course, could not show it, for fear of being harassed by other students- in an honors course. Very sad. Parents need to teach respect, and avoid yelling over each other and acting entitled. Definitely appears to be a cultural issue. It is not about color.
Amen, definitely need respect back. This entitlement going around; & think about they are only 12%.of the population. There is such hatred promoted by their elites then the kids & less respectful take it to their advantage. No1 wants to be responsible!!! Be accountable!
My Dad was a professional boxer and he taught us how to defend ourselves but he said he wanted us to defend the innocent too He said if we don't stop the bully then we are just as guilty as they are. I took alot of punches defending my friends. Miss you Daddy.
I attended an elmentary school back in the early 70’s for a gifted kids program in Harlem, New York. I am Hispanic and not even white and I was bullied, beat up and pushed around. My teacher was great and tried her best to try and stop it but it went on for 2 years. My heart breaks for this boy and his family.
I am an older white man from Las Vegas. I love you 4 kids. You are so smart and well spoken. And no, I am not surprised. ......Keep spreading the word. You are doing a great thing for society...
"His picture looks like a trouble kid" Yep, that's why the media picked that photo to show. You won't be seeing any elementary school pictures of this guy.
I think you boys are what’s going to help the culture by speaking out and having honest conversations. I pray God blesses this channel and lifts your voices up to be the change needed in this world! ❤️
Yeah I think they are getting views and getting paid. I think they probably celebrated this murder, or at least the smiley one in the back did. They don’t gaf about these issues, they make content to make money… god I’ve never wanted to slap the smile off a mfer more than I did in this video. A kid died asshole.
This is what happens when our political leaders race hustle. Racial tension was never like this and I grew up in a Louisiana town where whites were the minority. Unimaginable and plain sad.
The mantra of the Democrat Party, divide and conquer. Keep racial and economic division alive so they can rule and keep the useful idiots goose stepping along.
This should be no different then if a crime is committed by one person but there was 4 people there you still get charged even though only one committed the crime
If you taken part you’re guilty this ain’t a case of Caesar assassination where every senate member had to stab to not get only one guilty @@mariannecoker5895
The cops said he did agree to fight instead of just going to the principle. I remember when i was in high school and older kids would take the new 8th graders lunch money during lunch until a new type of 8th graders came and they just started telling on them to the principle and then that whole stealing lunch money era ended because the new kids would just go and tell the teachers and end up getting everyone suspended.
It doesn’t work that way anymore. You can’t tell the adults because they don’t do anything about it! And if a kid does tell, they are harassed beyond belief!
There is a book called Lord of the Flies, it was written by a man called William Golding. This man was a teacher and he taught my father. My dad said he sometimes called the kids ‘my little beasts’ but remembered him as a good teacher. I studied this book as part of my English ‘O’ level exams and it had an impact on me. It is a story of a large group of white 11-15 year old boys surviving in the jungle after the explosion of an atom bomb and as the story progresses they form a community with rules, but they also start to distinguish between each other form cliques and finally a chubby boy become there target of difference and well given what this comment sect is about you can guess the result. This is a good book though a bit stodgy in places but Golding’s exploration into the deterioration in social mores I feel is very nuanced and well expressed. I understand why my father said he sometimes called them ‘little beasts’. I am not so sure these 15 children did what they did out of racism, I think it’s a matter of difference a group of same versus the unyielding individual. What is racism is the way the media manipulates the narrative and seems to not give equal coverage over these types of events. This tends to be the case over here in the UK as well. One needs to remember that behaviour is learned from what is presented around the child and if child is not taught that if you break the rules there will be consequences then why would they follow the rules and I am sad to say this is what it leads to. Adults step up to the plate and return to taking responsibility for your children. But hey I am just a grumpy old white woman who works in a British prison dealing with this sort of mentality every day. Apologies I put this comment in the wrong place, no criticism intended for the OP😊
This is what happens when the school uses a policy called “restorative justice” .. zero consequences if you are an “oppressed person “ .. but if you are an “oppressor” .. you are expelled! It’s a crock of 💩 this is exactly why teachers are quitting and school violence is out of control .. plz look into this and do a video! ❤
When I was a teacher, we had restorative justice training and I told admin that I won't do it. I told them that my old school classroom management was more effective than any new agenda the school wanted to try.
Yep you're exactly correct. I'm a LV local and I've noticed a few elementary schools talking about "diversity, equity, and inclusion" when just about every school, white kids are in the minority, at least the ones I know of. Everywhere I've lived here, white people are the minority population. So, why in schools, where white kids are the "minority" are they talking about protecting "students of color" it just doesn't make sense. They are the majority at that point! They should be making sure everyone is treated fairly regardless of skin color. That's the problem.
Broke my heart. All lives have been destroyed on this day. Especially the kid that got beaten to death. I can't imagine losing my child. This is just horrible. Justice will be served and I hope these kids learned a huge lesson from this because you can't bring this young man back.
I'm at a loss for words in cases like this, just the idea of attacking a single helpless person with 8+ people disgusts me. None of the perpetrators can be so stupid as not to understand that at this moment they are killing someone or, in the “best case scenario”, crippling someone. The age of the perpetrator is of secondary importance to me in this case, the lack of empathy and ruthlessness of this act calls for the harshest possible punishment, I'm sorry. These are not children or teenagers, not even people, they are ruthless monsters. EDIT: I wrote this post in an emotional mood, just to clarify, I am not calling for the death penalty, however the death of a teenager committed by a mob of 12-17 year olds is not a trivial offense and should not be treated as such. The callousness of these “children” just still shocks me. And I never said anything about race or colour, because it doesn't matter.
MONSTERS is right....they have sold their souls to the devil. This behaviour is going to escalate. Pray for our children...Pray for the whole world. 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
That’s how it’s been in that community for decades. I got jumped as a kid in the 80’s by several older kids. I knew to stay away from groups of people from a certain community as a child cause that’s the norm.
I can't even watch the video. It makes me think of my own son being in a situation like this. I wouldn't even want to think about how I would respond to this. I truly never want to be in a position to have to. It sad and disgusting.
As a small white kid I was in many different schools. I was always the outsider and Bullied consistently. But one instance I will never forget. I was in grade school and a mostly black school. 1 day during recess, a black friend of mine. Decided he wanted to fight me. I had thought he was a friend of mine. I was surrounded by black kids. And they commenced beating me. And no one came to my defense. I felt betrayed by this person I thought was my friend. This was back in early 70s.. Fortunately, I stood my ground Although I was much smaller. From that point on, I had a whole different view of the world and how evil it can be. From that point on, I never allowed any person to push me around.
Thankful you made it thru. I've had blk friends also, some so so,but when it comes down to it they all stick together no matter what. I don't care for this evil racist hatred going around but I find very few blacks that are genuine. Like Officer Tatum & Jessie Lee Peterson. So sorry for this boy being taken down by these disgusting no good bumbs. They have no respect for any1. I hope the officials see this group of 15 are a pack of thieves out to rob or kill. They need jail time separately.
This happened to a friend of mine he got jumped after a night out by a group of teenagers who just wanted to fight someone. They beat my friend to within an inch of his life and left him in a coma for a long time. When he woke up they said he would never walk again and most likely need a hospital bed for the rest of his life. Thankfully he proved us all wrong as he is almost completely recovered. I imagine he still has issues due his injuries long term but the lads who did it had no remorse and they werent punished as much as they should have been. They literally jumped on his head as he lay lifeless on the floor, his head had a dent in after from their feet. People who commit these crimes are pure evil and should never see the light of day. His father's reaction baffles me completely I have no idea how he can be that calm and forgiving towards his sons killers
That father was more worried about getting liberal brownie points than keeping his son safe. Anyone that let's their white children go to a school with 95% minorities is delusional.
His Father was probably still in shock. The anger will come. All of this needs to stop. You guys are doing a great job in trying to help. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
lol its not our job to be on the sidelines cheering for hate crime its only going to cause more danger to black people and also white people just look at the palestine kid stabbed 15 times by a white man screaming kiill muslims, people will watch the news and try to commit acts enraged. Instead let the police do the job and decide wether its hate crime or not they probably have more access to evidence than me and you.
Exactly I watched the presser about the 8 they have arrested and the cops said the argument was from earlier in the week over stolen items so the kid agreed to fight one of the guys. The video shows as soon as the first swing all of them jumped in. They planned it and it is a hate crime just because people are scared to say it doesn't mean that's not what it is. I was the only white kid in my entire sixth grade and I have been the minority at this school this kid is the minority jumped and beaten by the majority that is literally what they say makes a hate crime every time something happens. It's sad to watch people talk around it making sure never to say it because it's not the appropriate or agreed upon narrative. RIP young man I will kill for my child 😢
@@labreaman89 No, I was not, but according to the boy's friend that is what happened! If you look on the video the little boy was trying to help his friend and got punched in the back of the head. The little boy took off and they chased after him while the others stomped on the 17 year old.
17:15 "Send your kid to a white school, they learn to read. Send your kid to a black school they learn to fight" That was the most impactful statment in this whole episode. Dayuuuum !!!!!
That one guy on the left is saying that he's seen people get jumped like that, and no one is expecting for the person to die in those situations. But what he doesn't get is that his permissive attitude is the exact reason why people die from getting jumped. People like him give them a pass. We have to send them to jail to change this kind of attitude.
@@_Professor_Oak I don't know about that. There's a different calculus involved in feeling than there is in knowing, and sometimes it gets confused. I think maybe that man hasn't learned how to get his mind and his heart in the correct order. And that ain't always easy, man.
@miatika I listened to the entirety of what he said and the context within each statement. He was being permissive, overall. And this is because he wants people to be permissive of his bad behavior. Just look at his eyes, he knows he has to judge himself harshly, if he judges them harshly too. This is the problem with black men. They're so used to being given a pass for their bad behavior that it results in bad takes on things like this. And that winds up effecting everyone else. But he's not a bad sort, he just doesn't quite get it. Black folks are like that, they tend to be more intuitive than strictly focused on sets of rules and procedures. It's actually their strength. They're dynamic, and it makes them a force to be reckoned with. But it can also be their weakness when they aren't held accountable. EDIT: I accidentally a word
It's always been this way. I was in school in the 70's and when a black and white fought and the white was getting in more punches , the black kids would come circling around and saying , hell no and try to jump in but the white kids would have to stop them and tell them to let the 2 fight it out. If it looked like the fight was getting too violent then someone would break it up. Wasn't any killing each other going on.
If I was the sheriff my city’s highways would be spotless with the new edition of 15 trash-pickers on a 15 inmate chain gang. Full display, pink coveralls, with Highway signs displaying who they were.
I attended kindergarten in 1953 in Oakland, California. I haver NEVER forgotten this. A little black girl walked us home all the time so other black kids would not pick on my sister and I....1953...KINDERGARTEN...
Inspiring the next generation to have more compassion for white victims of black violence than they do for blacks when they get victimized by whites. Tatum definitely succeeded here with that .
@@pellainstrumentalsbeatsmus2568The problem is there's no black people victimized by whites , but the other way around seems to be very common and growing.
It isn't a competition for who they feel more sorry for. No one deserves to be killed by a mob for standing up for what they think is right, regardless of race.
I am a middle aged woman from Scotland. I have been following you guys for more than a year. Honestly, you guys get more and more impressive. Whatever careers you eventually choose you will be successful. Please God don't let it be politics. You are all too good for that shitshow. I wish you all health, wealth, happiness and luck.... and the greatest of these is luck.
has to be politics to understand how corrupt things are. without understanding politics. you'll never know why and how its gotten this bad. trump 2024!
@@SupremeNamelessOne I just would not wish that corrupt place on any of these guys. Most folk go into politics for the greater good, within a few years they are lining their own pockets. I agree on one thing. Trump 2024!.
@@mollyscot1563 we need people with brains in our politics these Men Are Young people but they seem to have intelligence and none of them are wearing a dress so that's a plus
i love to see when you all disagree about a certain topic and you all give each other a chance to explain why and no one talks down on anyone. It's great to see such well-mannered discussions about serious topics. I love ya'll's channel. Keep up the good work!
@mbii7667 Black people have a hard time judging other blacks especially if it's a white person involved because their default racism causes cognitive dissonance. They're also typically not to bright and worldly.
I was born and raised in Las Vegas! Our schools suck I’m in my twenties now!!! I pulled my daughter out of school because a fifth grade black boy punched my daughter in the face multiple times he didn’t even get introuble till I called the school and had a fucking fit! She was in second grade came home bawling with red bruised cheeks! He got one day suspension but when my daughter was play wrestling with her friend on the bus they suspended her for five day even though her and the girl are still friends and the girl said it was just playing
Thank you guys for bringing this stuff to light thank you for being awake to the bs! I’m Asian and white and I have had such racist things thrown at me!! Not saying yall have never had it too but thank you thank you for not being blind to the other side being bad too now!!!
2:49 if some of these 15 kids have been turned in and reported multiple times before, and the administration did nothing, then there is grounds for a lawsuit against the school. In KY, we have one district that is terrible, and the principals and administrators don’t like to expel or suspend bad kids, because that makes the district look even worse. It’s not fair to the other students.
This is 100% WRONG!! Who cares the color or what he "looks" like.. He stood up for his friend instead of bringing out his phone.. You should not bring "his" appearance into this, nobody deserves to be beat to death.. What was his last thoughts before he died from the hands of 15 people.. They should all be prosecuted to the fullest.. Consequences
Those kids saw the chance to beat up a white boy, and they leaped on that chance, and literally beat that boy to death. This was definitely a hate crime. That boy was taking up for his friend that had his earbuds stolen from one of the boys that beat him to death, and when he tried to stand up to the boy who stole the ear buds, they theif hit that boy, and all his buddies seen what was going down and they all jumped in, and started stomping that boy beating and kicking him. That's what happened! Those boys all need charged with 1st degree murder and sent to prison for life! Even their parents were outside the court room acting like their kids did no wrong! Purely disgusting behavior! This story needs more coverage, than what it's getting.
The issue as to why I believe OT (love him) brought up race is, if it was a black kid that got jumped, and even just a few of the kids that were beating him were white, it doesn't matter if it was racial or not, that is how the media would spin it. Sucks. I feel so bad for the parents of that boy. No child deserves to be jumped, even the ones that jumped him..☹️
so what about when black people kill black people every single day? is that hate crime? i hate how people try to promote everything as hate crime without knowing any of these people themselves they just try to gas light sitting from their computers when it could have nothing to do with race lol
Why does this even need to be explained? How many innocent whites and Asians are going to die at the hands of blacks while we pretend this isn't a racial issue?
2 thoughts come to mind: WHY keep hitting a kid who is down? Hes down for minutes, why are you still kicking and stomping him? LORD OF THE FLIES, this is what happens when parents are not in the picture. These kids are probably neglected, emotionally, if not physically.
Here’s the thing it doesn’t matter what color your skin is or where you come from, it’s a lack of respect for your fellow human being. I worked very hard to teach our son to respect everyone even if the person was disrespectful to him. We need to teach children to talk things out and stop using hatred to feel tough. God Bless that young man and all of you young men. 🙏🏼
@@-B_G- that's honestly the main issue. Our race (human race) may appear "advanced" and flourishing on the surface, but underneath it is VERY unwell. Aliens don't want anything to do with us. Ironically, I would say as a race WE are actually the scary aliens you see in the old sci-fi flicks. You can call that projection.
How can these kids constantly call out the system for being racist, but then go around acting this THIS, thinking that's going to help the issue in any way? If someone accuses you of being violent, and you punch them in the face for saying so.... how does that prove them wrong? 🤦🏽♀️ These teens are going to spew that they were victims of racism because "they're black + people call them criminals"... when the problem is that THEY ARE criminals, regardless of colour. But the 'system' has them just as brainwashed as the people they claim are the racists. 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
@@badassmexican9479 oh look, the race obsessed lefty with "mexican" in his name thinks clearly racist black kids committing a hate crime on white kids isn't a big deal because "tHeRe WaS sOmE nOn bLaCkS iNvOlVeD DeRp dErp DeRp"
This is not a LAS VEGAS thing. This is a NIZZLE thing. The crazy part is the victim had the same name as a civil rights leader who died a couple of years ago. JONATHAN LEWIS. Also, for those who don't know why this happened, it was because Lewis tried to take up for smaller kid. This was according to smaller kid, and bystanders who said they started bullying the smaller kid for his headphones.
people love to gas light sitting from their computers and encourage hatred. They dont know anything about these kids who jumped him they could be having white friends etc but lets come to conclusion that its 10 blacks and 1 white victim its hate crime let the cops do their job they can decide if this is hate crime or not people want to become judges themselves ya lets sentence these guys to life imprisonment lol just shows there IQ level and most of them are over 30.
They just reported on the news last night that this same group of kids were involved in a different incident of beating a kid down earlier this year and NOTHING was done! If I was the father, there would be hell to pay. And he needs to sue the crap out of the school. Enough is enough!!!!
I went to 3 different predominantly white schools and white kids wore chains. I'm a white female and I wore chains, it was actually a tow chain that went from my wallet to my belt loop and I had a dog choker collar on, locked with a master lock. I dressed the way I wanted, it was a mix of metal/goth/grunge. What I'm saying is, just because he has a chain doesn't mean he's an "n".
@@dropshipincanada 15 to 1 Doesn’t matter how you do the math my guy, these kids are cowards and they should be thrown in jail for the rest of their miserable lives.
@@Alphameiz you live in this fairytale world clearly you were sheltered as a kid, schools fights are never 1 on 1 and be prepared to have weapons involved. You can’t live this world thinking everyone plays fair lol that’s why you call the cops and never handle situations yourself if you’re not ready for the consequences.
Exactly, when i was 13 i wanted to do a lot of things i wanted to fight a lot of kids but was scared of getting in trouble by my parents so i got saved. Parents should be held accountable also.
Parents are not free to deservedly smack children on the bum properly anymore. What the hell do you think is going to happen? The world is controlled by idiots. End if story.
Parents don't raise kids anymore... social media takes care of that... you just have to hope they pick and follow the right people and not go down the path of "FUCK THE SYSTEM" types....
793k subscribers. You say you don't know how you're going to fix the culture but I think you all are doing an amazing job at speaking truth regardless of color or culture and you have a great platform to inspire people to be better. You're all an inspiration, just hearing the intelligent and thoughtful conversations from you all can do a lot to help a lost kid.
When I saw this a few days ago it ruined my day. All day I was so bothered. Whats up with the damn head stomping?? That should be immediate attempted murder charge. I graduated in 98 and we had fights in school but sir didn't seem like it is now. I don't remember kids getting their head stomped and people being beaten to death. I'm so glad my son is out of school. I'm absolutely praying for parents that have kids in school still. It must have been hard to send them to school after seeing this.
Even if what you are suggesting is true, that definitely makes it a hate crime!! No mercy for the heartless killers, none of them were sorry about taking a life. T.hat alone shows what assholes they are. They have all probably been visiously abused by their mamas many sadistic boyfriends!
As a white girl who grew up in the 90's, I don't think his jewelry is unusual. He looks like a throwback to the grunge era. The whole story is so sad no matter the circumstances. I don't know how we are going to fix the culture either.
I'm a petite white female who lives an hour outside of NYC. I went to high school in 2000--2004 and in those years, plus my years in middle school, I saw all of two fights and one was between two special needs kids so I don't think it counts much. My school was majority white. I spent one summer in summer school...in a mostly black and hispanic school. They searched you to walk into the school, there were security guards every few feet in the hallways. I did hear the racial comments since I was nearly the only white person, only one other white person in my class. Huge difference.
The news channel characterized this as a brawl- this was not a brawl. It definitely was a frenzied violent attack by predators. I hope they will all spend their lives behind bars and that others will learn from this. Thank you for discussing this on your channel. I enjoy your perspective on all your videos. The father of the victim is such a strong and loving man.
The difference was it wasn't just kids being mean. These kids think they have every right to behave this way because of what the values in America have become and it's astonishing.
Yep..they csn do what they want cos they have rights..shame they don't know or are not taught the responsibilities that go with those rights...and this is a global issue
@@madmelwood3778in a global context population explosion may of led to a lot of poor parenting and desperation? It's hard to believe going from 3 billion to 8 billion in 50 years didn't strain everything that held society together. Then a generation comes along that has had a device in their hands, ever since they remember, and really Their main focus are apps that reward social narcissism. Doomed. With AI enforcement coming get ready to be a perfect little boy malleable to however the government see fit. Lol you like working right?? How about when they slowly destroy your life without you knowing for population control?? Buckle up.
When I grew up I never saw more than a 1 on 1 fight, and I saw many fights, people started with me as well. And the people around watching on both sides would always break it up if someone took a hard punch to the face and move on. This sickens me.
Same, predominantly white school with probably less than 5% minorities. There was fights, but never really more than 1 on 1. There was one time where a few guys from another school came to jump 1 dude at the end of the day, but news travelled fast and before anything could happen, basically 200+ high school kids CHASED these would-be jumpers all through town and made them piss themselves trying to hid in a supermarket. 🤣🤣I will always remember that day, it was kinda wild seeing everybody running down the hill.
From what I heard is this kids friend was robbed by this group and he jumped in to help his friend trying to get his things back and the 15 kids jumped him and stomped him to death. Its insane to me ..thoughts and prayers to go out the kids family
Here's a question: If they beat and murdered someone close to you, your brother, your sister or anyone you love fiercely, would you then question if the potential sentence may be too harsh?
8 of the teens were just arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder
Why not Charged with a Hate crime and took two weeks?
@@thomasgentry6201 th-cam.com/video/xq1mcY3Msnc/w-d-xo.html
For real? I really hope so.
Charged means nothing. We need convictions.
@@thomasgentry6201Gathering evidence and there is not enough sufficient information to conclude that it was a hate crime.
Hate crimes are very hard to provide evidence for unless it is concrete and planned.
This attack was unorganized and got out of hand. I do believe in my personal OPINION and seeing the video that the assailants attacked Johnathan with more force because he was white. But there is no way to prove that unless the FBI shows an orchestrated attempt via text messages or phone recordings that the assailants wanted to attack him for being white.
There’s no playing the “devil’s advocate” in this situation. These people had intentionally beat this kid to cause either severe damage or death. They robbed a 17yr old of his life and a father of his son. 25yr minimum term.
Regardless of race-this is beyond heartbreaking.
They weren’t people. They were a pack of animals.
@@mariedelozier2530 Humans ARE Animals.
But it was a racial attack - blacks on white - as is the case in 87% of interracial crime between blacks and white;s and quite often it’s a group attack because they’re cowards and they want 5 on 1 or 10 on one. . If this was white Maga hat wearing Republicans, they would’ve already burned the city down by now. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to the acknowledgment of interracial crime. That means 87% of the time the media doesn’t wanna say anything about it and 13% of the time they’re going to prop up, the so-called victim, when, even in those cases, the narrative is distorted, just as it was in the George Floyd case, or the Michael Brown case.
@@mariedelozier2530They are humans. Why are some so quick to deny that humans are capable of very evil things?
@cspr_ I guess that’s true
I'm a petite white woman who went to a 'black' junior high school in the late '70's--early 80's. Someone asked in the comments 'why would you send your kid to a school where they're a minority?'. I didn't have a choice--we were essentially bussed in by the school district. I was consistently targeted, bullied, assaulted--all of it. That was from the kids. Some of my teachers, also black, were just as bad. While the teachers didn't assault me, they wouldn't stop it from happening, either, even though they knew it was going on. One teacher was especially bad--I remember her like it was yesterday. I really feel for this child who was killed--I can't fully imagine how frightened he must have been once he realized the full extent of what was suddenly happening.
They mean homeschool their kid.
I went to a predominantly black(90/10) elementary school in the early 70's in the South no less. I can honestly say I never had any issues with any black students. White boys yes but no black students and this in Louisiana.
I had the same problem. Bussed into a black school. I was the only red head. I got assaulted by kids in the halls between classes and bullied.
@@Savssmiles Oh, got it. Thanks
@@amberbrown9997 I’m sorry that happened to you!
Attacking one person in a group is the definition of cowardice in my opinion.
14 sources of reliability in regards to each individual involved, lessening the odds of instant repercussions…yes extremely cowardice.
I think so too but, it's not exactly cowardice. In our world today kids just have no respect for life. Black kids are raised with a chip on their shoulder. I'm trying to diplomatic here but, if you look at statistics black kids are most likely to commit violent crime when in a group. It's the you cover my back and I'll cover yours mentality. The are most likely to be emotionless when in a group. They are not bad kids originally, it is lack of parenting, socialization and education. We need to change the culture in in this country!
And we KNOW whos MO that is dont we?! Get em one on one and the true coward shows up
@Garkimyer not true: when the police is supporting the white ... I would say 15blacks on one white is even
My heart breaks for this child and his family. I have a 12 year old son and this type of stuff scares me to no end.
and if it was your kid doing the stomping?
@@clarifyingquestions It wouldn’t be my kid. I’m raising my kids to respect others and they have structure in their lives.
and that is the difference.@@Chino780
The police reported that there were 10 rather than 15. They’ve arrested 8 of the kids so far. Age range is 13-17. This went down just off property and was in an alley. A bystander saw the kid laying there and carried him back to the school. That’s where the 911 call came from.
There is a difference between an accident versus intentional. A bottle in the air and hitting a person in the exact spot to cause their death is an accident. If there were charges it would be manslaughter if the DA decided to press charges. These kids combined killed someone, the intent to inflict bodily harm is there. That’s murder. Ignorance of the law or going easy on them due to being under 18 isnt an excuse when the end result is murder. They are recommending to the DA that all of them be charged as adults.
If this were my kid, I’d be hit with murder charges after getting even. As a parent, I can’t imagine losing my daughter. My mom had to bury my little brother and that shit was hard to watch her go through.
I had to bury one, my 2nd child. Let me tell you it is the worst and my child wasn't violently hurt, he died of natural causes. Someone UNALIVE my child?? Oh HELL NO! I'd be in prison for getting those little hellions
I'm a proud father of two, I try to avoid contemplating things like this, but I agree...the cops better get there first.
Totally agree, that's why I just called it an attack and not a fight!
@@libertybell8852 I am sorry for you. I'm sure your little angel is in a better place than this earth.
@@libertybell8852me to and it would only take me myself not a gang
Unbelievable, I hope all 15 kids go to prison. Turn it around and all 15 would be charged with hate crimes, this was a racial hate crime.
But if 15 white kids jump black kids, it's normal...its ok, which white kids are adults have been jumping blacks for years....
its not our job to be on the sidelines cheering for hate crime its only going to cause more danger to black people and also white people just look at the palestine kid stabbed 15 times by a white man screaming kiill muslims, people will watch the news and try to commit acts enraged. Instead let the police do the job and decide wether its hate crime or not they probably have more access to evidence than me and you.
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@Leann472 I would have to agree
theres no need to turn it around, no matter the race. whether it was 15 white or 15 black. the 15 should be in PRISON. y'all gotta stop with the race war bait. call them what they are. they're sheety humans
I think the father is honestly in shock. I don't think I could be that calm if someone killed my child honestly. That's your flesh and blood, and to lose them to such a senseless act is, I'm sure, is hard to comprehend and believe. Someone loses their life defending their smaller friend over a nicotine patch. SMH. This is what happens when kids and young adults have no discipline whatsoever and never face any real consequences. They all deserve to be charged for murder. That was a heinous act!
He has been drugged and controlled. They have a team for this. Ketamine and assorted 'tropics
@@buysncharge Whaaat?? Can you please expound on this? First of all, explain "a team"....PLEASE!!
Deep State@@TexansKNOW
@@buysncharge Yes, the age was my first minor red flag but his dads comments were extremely oddly worded, apologies to them? Why? Part of a certain cult?
You are right
Man, this story broke my heart. God bless this kid and his family.
Damn shame. Young man tries to defend another from being assaulted(allegedly) and ends up dead. Ultimate sacrifice. Parents....for God's sake please educate your kids on self defense and consequences. Put them in karate,tkd,bjj....something. They need guidance and discipline. Just horrible, I feel for all involved.
15 vs 1 it doesn't matter how much self defense training you have.
@@middleagedgamers7750 facts but my point is/was: if those 15 had guidance and discipline through a martial art then mayyyyyyybe stuff like this can be avoided.
THEY SHOULD MAKE THOSE KIDS PARENTS RESPONSABLE TOO.
The fact that the girl is holding a phone and recording speaks volumes. Our children are turning into nothing more than animal-like beings.
Yup. And the parents have so much to do with it. Along with social media.
It's distgusting!
Yep
That's what kills me people would rather record a horrible moment to get clicks and views instead of using the phone to call 911 and help save people. Sad commentary on society these days...
It's crazy that her first reaction watching someone die was pulling out her phone and start recording, the parents are raising a potential killer, that's something Jeffrey Dahmer would do.
My heart breaks for the young man losing his life because he was doing what he felt was right, helping a smaller kid that was being beaten buy a bunch of thugs. My heart goes out to the family of this young man and all his friends. 15 on one is premeditated murder, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
This is the reason my dad moved us away when bussing started. We were bussed to an all black school. My dad moved us to an all white school. I'm not racist but he was taking no chances with his child. Crap like this makes it where I can understand why.
I had the same thing happen to me in high school. I stuck up for small white kid that was being picked on by a black dude. I had no idea there was a bunch more on the other side of the school doors. I was surrounded so fast and was ready to be jumped until I took off my chain belt and started swinging it. This is back in 1980 in Detroit at Denby High School. Maybe 20% white 80% black.
@@tbone9246 You sound like me back in the early 60s. Even though I am a female, I grew up in a neighborhood with 18 boys and 2 of us girls. I was kind of a tomboy. I jumped in many times to defend the handicapped and mentally challenged from the Bullies that would torment them & play on their biggest fears. No one could hold onto me, I was extremely fast and agile. I put many boys in their places. One girl that I protected and removed from a bunch of "popular girls" that were bullying and humiliating her, had never forgotten what I did. Even in our 60s, if she saw me in a store she would shout out my name, run and give me a hug, and tell everyone around us how I protected her from the bullies. I will always protect the weak, helpless, and defenseless from the COWARDS that would never call out someone their own size or one-on-one. Seems they only have courage when they are in a pack, just like all COWARDS. I figure they get what they deserve and more for attacking the helpless. God bless you for standing up for that boy in school!
I like you guys ( Cartier Family ) because you DON'T take the Black side of issues OR the White side , you guys take the COMMON SENSE side. That's what this country needs to do to get ahead , TOGETHER.
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You must not live around a lot of black people?
Would you do the same had the show been on the other foot? Thats the real
question..
@@dontbmadjusbcarefulhow is that an 🙄 comment lol
@@implodingllama2092 You know what it means though. 🙄
I am a professor at a university and was assigned to teach one honors course at an urban high school. Those students were so rude to me. I planned fun activities every day we met, and still students were on their phone laughing at videos, calling me a bitch, and degrading me for being white. It was the worst experience I have ever had as a college professor. I received no assistance from the high school. Even the students who wanted to participate in the course, could not show it, for fear of being harassed by other students- in an honors course. Very sad. Parents need to teach respect, and avoid yelling over each other and acting entitled. Definitely appears to be a cultural issue. It is not about color.
Amen, definitely need respect back. This entitlement going around; & think about they are only 12%.of the population. There is such hatred promoted by their elites then the kids & less respectful take it to their advantage. No1 wants to be responsible!!! Be accountable!
@@cynthialammon710 not sure exactly what you mean by 12% but these students were not just black. Many were Latino. And some were white as well.
My Dad was a professional boxer and he taught us how to defend ourselves but he said he wanted us to defend the innocent too
He said if we don't stop the bully then we are just as guilty as they are. I took alot of punches defending my friends. Miss you Daddy.
I attended an elmentary school back in the early 70’s for a gifted kids program in Harlem, New York. I am Hispanic and not even white and I was bullied, beat up and pushed around. My teacher was great and tried her best to try and stop it but it went on for 2 years. My heart breaks for this boy and his family.
Close enough apparently
#MediaNarrativeDebunked
#FJB
I am an older white man from Las Vegas. I love you 4 kids. You are so smart and well spoken. And no, I am not surprised. ......Keep spreading the word. You are doing a great thing for society...
"His picture looks like a trouble kid"
Yep, that's why the media picked that photo to show.
You won't be seeing any elementary school pictures of this guy.
I went to check out his other pics that were released, you nailed it.
I think you boys are what’s going to help the culture by speaking out and having honest conversations. I pray God blesses this channel and lifts your voices up to be the change needed in this world! ❤️
Yeah I think they are getting views and getting paid. I think they probably celebrated this murder, or at least the smiley one in the back did. They don’t gaf about these issues, they make content to make money… god I’ve never wanted to slap the smile off a mfer more than I did in this video. A kid died asshole.
This is insane and criminal. I picture one of my sons getting hurt or killed and this makes my want vigilante justice. Such cowardice!
This is what happens when our political leaders race hustle. Racial tension was never like this and I grew up in a Louisiana town where whites were the minority. Unimaginable and plain sad.
The sad part of this is it empowers people like dylan roof. Hate begets hate.
Who?@@ngonzales3781
The mantra of the Democrat Party, divide and conquer. Keep racial and economic division alive so they can rule and keep the useful idiots goose stepping along.
This should be no different then if a crime is committed by one person but there was 4 people there you still get charged even though only one committed the crime
If you taken part you’re guilty this ain’t a case of Caesar assassination where every senate member had to stab to not get only one guilty @@mariannecoker5895
This young man was about to join the Navy after graduation! He was a good kid, good student. Keep it real guys! Get your facts straight!
The cops said he did agree to fight instead of just going to the principle. I remember when i was in high school and older kids would take the new 8th graders lunch money during lunch until a new type of 8th graders came and they just started telling on them to the principle and then that whole stealing lunch money era ended because the new kids would just go and tell the teachers and end up getting everyone suspended.
😔 Poor kid. Ready to join the navy? Now he'll never experience that. His Dad is a kind forgiving man - guessing his son was too
It doesn’t work that way anymore. You can’t tell the adults because they don’t do anything about it! And if a kid does tell, they are harassed beyond belief!
@@dropshipincanadanonsense. Does that give them the right to beat him to death. F..k u
There is a book called Lord of the Flies, it was written by a man called William Golding. This man was a teacher and he taught my father. My dad said he sometimes called the kids ‘my little beasts’ but remembered him as a good teacher. I studied this book as part of my English ‘O’ level exams and it had an impact on me. It is a story of a large group of white 11-15 year old boys surviving in the jungle after the explosion of an atom bomb and as the story progresses they form a community with rules, but they also start to distinguish between each other form cliques and finally a chubby boy become there target of difference and well given what this comment sect is about you can guess the result. This is a good book though a bit stodgy in places but Golding’s exploration into the deterioration in social mores I feel is very nuanced and well expressed. I understand why my father said he sometimes called them ‘little beasts’. I am not so sure these 15 children did what they did out of racism, I think it’s a matter of difference a group of same versus the unyielding individual. What is racism is the way the media manipulates the narrative and seems to not give equal coverage over these types of events. This tends to be the case over here in the UK as well. One needs to remember that behaviour is learned from what is presented around the child and if child is not taught that if you break the rules there will be consequences then why would they follow the rules and I am sad to say this is what it leads to. Adults step up to the plate and return to taking responsibility for your children. But hey I am just a grumpy old white woman who works in a British prison dealing with this sort of mentality every day. Apologies I put this comment in the wrong place, no criticism intended for the OP😊
This is what happens when the school uses a policy called “restorative justice” .. zero consequences if you are an “oppressed person “ .. but if you are an “oppressor” .. you are expelled! It’s a crock of 💩 this is exactly why teachers are quitting and school violence is out of control .. plz look into this and do a video! ❤
When I was a teacher, we had restorative justice training and I told admin that I won't do it. I told them that my old school classroom management was more effective than any new agenda the school wanted to try.
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Government and society have created this monster! 😎
this is exactly how you create white racists... reactionary hate will always exist as long as we suffer under toxic diversity.
Yep you're exactly correct. I'm a LV local and I've noticed a few elementary schools talking about "diversity, equity, and inclusion" when just about every school, white kids are in the minority, at least the ones I know of. Everywhere I've lived here, white people are the minority population. So, why in schools, where white kids are the "minority" are they talking about protecting "students of color" it just doesn't make sense. They are the majority at that point! They should be making sure everyone is treated fairly regardless of skin color. That's the problem.
Broke my heart. All lives have been destroyed on this day. Especially the kid that got beaten to death. I can't imagine losing my child. This is just horrible. Justice will be served and I hope these kids learned a huge lesson from this because you can't bring this young man back.
Not that day, if you are ready jumping on a dead body you fucked up way before that
I'm on the West Coast. This is the first I've heard of it. This needs to be a nationwide story.
So senseless. Absolutely senseless.
What those teens did was pure evil. What's appalling is this happened on November 1st and there hasn't been media coverage until very recently.
I've seen zero media coverage
@@mbii7667 but if it was reversed...
I'm at a loss for words in cases like this, just the idea of attacking a single helpless person with 8+ people disgusts me. None of the perpetrators can be so stupid as not to understand that at this moment they are killing someone or, in the “best case scenario”, crippling someone. The age of the perpetrator is of secondary importance to me in this case, the lack of empathy and ruthlessness of this act calls for the harshest possible punishment, I'm sorry. These are not children or teenagers, not even people, they are ruthless monsters.
EDIT: I wrote this post in an emotional mood, just to clarify, I am not calling for the death penalty, however the death of a teenager committed by a mob of 12-17 year olds is not a trivial offense and should not be treated as such. The callousness of these “children” just still shocks me. And I never said anything about race or colour, because it doesn't matter.
MONSTERS is right....they have sold their souls to the devil. This behaviour is going to escalate. Pray for our children...Pray for the whole world. 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
That’s how it’s been in that community for decades. I got jumped as a kid in the 80’s by several older kids. I knew to stay away from groups of people from a certain community as a child cause that’s the norm.
People (of all ages) can be monsters, they're still people lol.
I can't even watch the video. It makes me think of my own son being in a situation like this. I wouldn't even want to think about how I would respond to this. I truly never want to be in a position to have to. It sad and disgusting.
@@GramadinGG ".. they're still people lol." Doesn't mean too much, apparently 🤷🏻♂
They robbed a smaller younger kid, and the one they beat to death was trying to help the child that they had robbed.
As a small white kid I was in many different schools. I was always the outsider and Bullied consistently. But one instance I will never forget. I was in grade school and a mostly black school. 1 day during recess, a black friend of mine.
Decided he wanted to fight me. I had thought he was a friend of mine. I was surrounded by black kids. And they commenced beating me.
And no one came to my defense. I felt betrayed by this person I thought was my friend. This was back in early 70s.. Fortunately, I stood my ground Although I was much smaller. From that point on, I had a whole different view of the world and how evil it can be. From that point on, I never allowed any person to push me around.
The "view of the world", we are all getting, now...
Thankful you made it thru. I've had blk friends also, some so so,but when it comes down to it they all stick together no matter what. I don't care for this evil racist hatred going around but I find very few blacks that are genuine. Like Officer Tatum & Jessie Lee Peterson. So sorry for this boy being taken down by these disgusting no good bumbs. They have no respect for any1. I hope the officials see this group of 15 are a pack of thieves out to rob or kill. They need jail time separately.
This happened to a friend of mine he got jumped after a night out by a group of teenagers who just wanted to fight someone. They beat my friend to within an inch of his life and left him in a coma for a long time. When he woke up they said he would never walk again and most likely need a hospital bed for the rest of his life. Thankfully he proved us all wrong as he is almost completely recovered. I imagine he still has issues due his injuries long term but the lads who did it had no remorse and they werent punished as much as they should have been. They literally jumped on his head as he lay lifeless on the floor, his head had a dent in after from their feet. People who commit these crimes are pure evil and should never see the light of day.
His father's reaction baffles me completely I have no idea how he can be that calm and forgiving towards his sons killers
Point is if the president acknowledged the act, the news would be forced to talk about. Its been one way for a long time
My heart breaks for this family. I just can’t imagine losing a child like this . I hope this family finds justice and peace . ❤
MY HEART BREAKS FOR THE POOR KID!!!!!!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
15 On 1 is the definition of cowardly. I'm glad some have been arrested, I hope all 15 are charged. His fathers a better person than I am...
That father was more worried about getting liberal brownie points than keeping his son safe. Anyone that let's their white children go to a school with 95% minorities is delusional.
Why did he try to fight 16 people?
@@bigcoop3717 Nice - Blame the victim for being murdered and it wasn't 16 people...
@@silverdoeGirl He could have went to the principal instead he tried to be John wick. Isn’t that literally Play stupid games win stupid prizes????
@soullessginger9912 for real, they don't mind stomping a man when he is down out numbered, but they can't fight 1v1 squared up
His Father was probably still in shock. The anger will come. All of this needs to stop. You guys are doing a great job in trying to help. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
decent like minded men of the community should band together and end this then never speak of it.
Only black culture would try to make excuses for this , where was the black kid standing up for the victim? You’ll never see it, think about it
definitely a hate crime. how could it not be?
lol its not our job to be on the sidelines cheering for hate crime its only going to cause more danger to black people and also white people just look at the palestine kid stabbed 15 times by a white man screaming kiill muslims, people will watch the news and try to commit acts enraged. Instead let the police do the job and decide wether its hate crime or not they probably have more access to evidence than me and you.
White victim...thats why it CAN'T be a hate crime.
Wtf does that mean? I hope that’s sarcasm. Racism goes all the ways, not just one.
Exactly I watched the presser about the 8 they have arrested and the cops said the argument was from earlier in the week over stolen items so the kid agreed to fight one of the guys. The video shows as soon as the first swing all of them jumped in. They planned it and it is a hate crime just because people are scared to say it doesn't mean that's not what it is. I was the only white kid in my entire sixth grade and I have been the minority at this school this kid is the minority jumped and beaten by the majority that is literally what they say makes a hate crime every time something happens. It's sad to watch people talk around it making sure never to say it because it's not the appropriate or agreed upon narrative. RIP young man I will kill for my child 😢
Because the victim is white. If you switched it as victim blk and suspects white 100% they'd classify it as a hate crime.
The 15 kids jumped a smaller kid and stole his stuff. The kid that was killed confronted the kids and told them to give the boy his stuff back!
Sounds like you were there??
@@labreaman89 No, I was not, but according to the boy's friend that is what happened! If you look on the video the little boy was trying to help his friend and got punched in the back of the head. The little boy took off and they chased after him while the others stomped on the 17 year old.
@@labreaman89It was widely reported on the news by witnesses.
The kids today don’t seem to have an internal shut off switch. It’s utterly frightening.
17:15 "Send your kid to a white school, they learn to read. Send your kid to a black school they learn to fight" That was the most impactful statment in this whole episode. Dayuuuum !!!!!
The young man that was beaten to death was actually defending another kid which makes it even worse in my opinion.
He's not saying Biden or the media should say something because it will do something. He's pointing it out due to the hypocrisy. The double standard.
So far 8 of those punks have been charged. Not holding my breath for the others. Justice in this country is screwed.
That one guy on the left is saying that he's seen people get jumped like that, and no one is expecting for the person to die in those situations. But what he doesn't get is that his permissive attitude is the exact reason why people die from getting jumped. People like him give them a pass. We have to send them to jail to change this kind of attitude.
He's not the brightest of the bunch let's just say that.
He said they should all go to jail. Maybe listen to him closer
@@_Professor_Oak I don't know about that. There's a different calculus involved in feeling than there is in knowing, and sometimes it gets confused.
I think maybe that man hasn't learned how to get his mind and his heart in the correct order. And that ain't always easy, man.
@miatika I listened to the entirety of what he said and the context within each statement. He was being permissive, overall. And this is because he wants people to be permissive of his bad behavior. Just look at his eyes, he knows he has to judge himself harshly, if he judges them harshly too.
This is the problem with black men. They're so used to being given a pass for their bad behavior that it results in bad takes on things like this. And that winds up effecting everyone else.
But he's not a bad sort, he just doesn't quite get it. Black folks are like that, they tend to be more intuitive than strictly focused on sets of rules and procedures.
It's actually their strength. They're dynamic, and it makes them a force to be reckoned with. But it can also be their weakness when they aren't held accountable.
EDIT: I accidentally a word
It's always been this way. I was in school in the 70's and when a black and white fought and the white was getting in more punches , the black kids would come circling around and saying , hell no and try to jump in but the white kids would have to stop them and tell them to let the 2 fight it out. If it looked like the fight was getting too violent then someone would break it up. Wasn't any killing each other going on.
If I was the sheriff my city’s highways would be spotless with the new edition of 15 trash-pickers on a 15 inmate chain gang. Full display, pink coveralls, with Highway signs displaying who they were.
I attended kindergarten in 1953 in Oakland, California. I haver NEVER forgotten this. A little black girl walked us home all the time so other black kids would not pick on my sister and I....1953...KINDERGARTEN...
Amen OT. Where’s the outrage from the media? This is so disgusting. Praying for the family. Thanks for sharing guys
Peace and love
It was a hate crime against the white kid
Wrong colour for the headlines, move along now peasants.
The media is Democrat. The Democrats spout lots of antiwhiteism.
Because he was a White boy
R.I.P Jonathan 🕊️
You are right. We need to make sute there is outrage. He needs justice.
All 15 should be charged
Officer Tatum would be so happy to know he's inspiring the younger generations of black men to think for themselves.
Inspiring the next generation to have more compassion for white victims of black violence than they do for blacks when they get victimized by whites. Tatum definitely succeeded here with that .
His kid looks white. He needs to be afraid for his youngest son.
@@pellainstrumentalsbeatsmus2568The problem is there's no black people victimized by whites , but the other way around seems to be very common and growing.
It isn't a competition for who they feel more sorry for. No one deserves to be killed by a mob for standing up for what they think is right, regardless of race.
They all need to be charged with HATE CRIMES too!!! Enough is enough. This iis clear cut racism
This happened off school property, hence why the school won't be charged with anything.
I am a middle aged woman from Scotland. I have been following you guys for more than a year. Honestly, you guys get more and more impressive. Whatever careers you eventually choose you will be successful. Please God don't let it be politics. You are all too good for that shitshow. I wish you all health, wealth, happiness and luck.... and the greatest of these is luck.
If you decide to go into politics you'd be excellent, talking to the young men
has to be politics to understand how corrupt things are. without understanding politics. you'll never know why and how its gotten this bad. trump 2024!
@@MichelleMohr-lt1wo Thanks but no. I have basic common sense. That makes me far right apparently.
@@SupremeNamelessOne I just would not wish that corrupt place on any of these guys. Most folk go into politics for the greater good, within a few years they are lining their own pockets.
I agree on one thing. Trump 2024!.
@@mollyscot1563 we need people with brains in our politics these Men Are Young people but they seem to have intelligence and none of them are wearing a dress so that's a plus
i love to see when you all disagree about a certain topic and you all give each other a chance to explain why and no one talks down on anyone. It's great to see such well-mannered discussions about serious topics. I love ya'll's channel. Keep up the good work!
Kinda, the one guy is ALWAYS ragging on the other.
What is there to disagree about in this instance?
@mbii7667 Black people have a hard time judging other blacks especially if it's a white person involved because their default racism causes cognitive dissonance. They're also typically not to bright and worldly.
@@mbii7667she is enjoying logical reasoning and discussion. Why can’t you support her?? Stop been mean
@@yawsafo5594 how am I being mean?
The kid that died was defending his friend that the group was bullying
Talk about JUSTICE equality, NOT Racism
I was born and raised in Las Vegas! Our schools suck I’m in my twenties now!!! I pulled my daughter out of school because a fifth grade black boy punched my daughter in the face multiple times he didn’t even get introuble till I called the school and had a fucking fit! She was in second grade came home bawling with red bruised cheeks! He got one day suspension but when my daughter was play wrestling with her friend on the bus they suspended her for five day even though her and the girl are still friends and the girl said it was just playing
Thank you guys for bringing this stuff to light thank you for being awake to the bs! I’m Asian and white and I have had such racist things thrown at me!! Not saying yall have never had it too but thank you thank you for not being blind to the other side being bad too now!!!
2:49 if some of these 15 kids have been turned in and reported multiple times before, and the administration did nothing, then there is grounds for a lawsuit against the school. In KY, we have one district that is terrible, and the principals and administrators don’t like to expel or suspend bad kids, because that makes the district look even worse. It’s not fair to the other students.
If it's one thing I can't stand it's bullies. This guy stood up to them, and paid for it with his life. Not all heroes wear capes.
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This is 100% WRONG!! Who cares the color or what he "looks" like.. He stood up for his friend instead of bringing out his phone.. You should not bring "his" appearance into this, nobody deserves to be beat to death.. What was his last thoughts before he died from the hands of 15 people.. They should all be prosecuted to the fullest.. Consequences
100% agree
Those kids saw the chance to beat up a white boy, and they leaped on that chance, and literally beat that boy to death. This was definitely a hate crime. That boy was taking up for his friend that had his earbuds stolen from one of the boys that beat him to death, and when he tried to stand up to the boy who stole the ear buds, they theif hit that boy, and all his buddies seen what was going down and they all jumped in, and started stomping that boy beating and kicking him. That's what happened! Those boys all need charged with 1st degree murder and sent to prison for life! Even their parents were outside the court room acting like their kids did no wrong! Purely disgusting behavior! This story needs more coverage, than what it's getting.
To think the country isn’t erupting in riots and protests is beyond me
The issue as to why I believe OT (love him) brought up race is, if it was a black kid that got jumped, and even just a few of the kids that were beating him were white, it doesn't matter if it was racial or not, that is how the media would spin it. Sucks. I feel so bad for the parents of that boy. No child deserves to be jumped, even the ones that jumped him..☹️
so what about when black people kill black people every single day? is that hate crime? i hate how people try to promote everything as hate crime without knowing any of these people themselves they just try to gas light sitting from their computers when it could have nothing to do with race lol
Why does this even need to be explained? How many innocent whites and Asians are going to die at the hands of blacks while we pretend this isn't a racial issue?
Yeah, really losing hope for humans these days. We're fucked.
the thing is if it was a black kid people would be on the streets chanting... instead people hide it
Reverse the roles and you would hear about this every where.
you can't reverse roles. cause we fight 1on1 one they don't
Continue with your great work gentlemen. Do your part to save our country!
2 thoughts come to mind:
WHY keep hitting a kid who is down? Hes down for minutes, why are you still kicking and stomping him?
LORD OF THE FLIES, this is what happens when parents are not in the picture. These kids are probably neglected, emotionally, if not physically.
I admire you guys for tackling topics like this.
I’m so proud of all of you. You’re good young men
Here’s the thing it doesn’t matter what color your skin is or where you come from, it’s a lack of respect for your fellow human being. I worked very hard to teach our son to respect everyone even if the person was disrespectful to him. We need to teach children to talk things out and stop using hatred to feel tough. God Bless that young man and all of you young men. 🙏🏼
It was a hate crime. Could you imagine if it’s the other way around? Media would be crazy on this
@@-B_G-exactly. there's still idiots who think racism towards white people doesn't exist
@@-B_G- that's honestly the main issue. Our race (human race) may appear "advanced" and flourishing on the surface, but underneath it is VERY unwell. Aliens don't want anything to do with us. Ironically, I would say as a race WE are actually the scary aliens you see in the old sci-fi flicks. You can call that projection.
media would have people on the streets chanting
Skin color is genetics deep. It does matter.
How can these kids constantly call out the system for being racist, but then go around acting this THIS, thinking that's going to help the issue in any way?
If someone accuses you of being violent, and you punch them in the face for saying so.... how does that prove them wrong? 🤦🏽♀️ These teens are going to spew that they were victims of racism because "they're black + people call them criminals"... when the problem is that THEY ARE criminals, regardless of colour. But the 'system' has them just as brainwashed as the people they claim are the racists. 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
“If I had to judge them for the content of their character, they would be begging me to judge them for the color of their skin.” -Tom Metzger
They weren’t all black which shows how racist people are assuming. Speak before even knowing shows ignorance be better atleast
@@badassmexican9479You’re right, a couple were Latino. Do you feel better? The main ones charged: 3 black 1 Latino.
@@badassmexican9479 oh look, the race obsessed lefty with "mexican" in his name thinks clearly racist black kids committing a hate crime on white kids isn't a big deal because "tHeRe WaS sOmE nOn bLaCkS iNvOlVeD DeRp dErp DeRp"
Maybe not all black, but I didn't see any whites.@@badassmexican9479
This is not a LAS VEGAS thing. This is a NIZZLE thing. The crazy part is the victim had the same name as a civil rights leader who died a couple of years ago.
JONATHAN LEWIS.
Also, for those who don't know why this happened, it was because Lewis tried to take up for smaller kid.
This was according to smaller kid, and bystanders who said they started bullying the smaller kid for his headphones.
So sad and I think the dad is in shock... Our society is falling apart and stuff like this will breed more hate and division.
people love to gas light sitting from their computers and encourage hatred. They dont know anything about these kids who jumped him they could be having white friends etc but lets come to conclusion that its 10 blacks and 1 white victim its hate crime let the cops do their job they can decide if this is hate crime or not people want to become judges themselves ya lets sentence these guys to life imprisonment lol just shows there IQ level and most of them are over 30.
THE POOR FATHER IS IN TOTAL SHOCK RIP YOUNG MAN MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY
They just reported on the news last night that this same group of kids were involved in a different incident of beating a kid down earlier this year and NOTHING was done! If I was the father, there would be hell to pay. And he needs to sue the crap out of the school. Enough is enough!!!!
I went to 3 different predominantly white schools and white kids wore chains. I'm a white female and I wore chains, it was actually a tow chain that went from my wallet to my belt loop and I had a dog choker collar on, locked with a master lock. I dressed the way I wanted, it was a mix of metal/goth/grunge. What I'm saying is, just because he has a chain doesn't mean he's an "n".
Dude on the left acts like he feels
guilty for something he did in his life in high school.
Hate crime.
how do you know that these kids didnt jump or steal from other black kids?
@@dropshipincanada 15 to 1 Doesn’t matter how you do the math my guy, these kids are cowards and they should be thrown in jail for the rest of their miserable lives.
@@Alphameiz you live in this fairytale world clearly you were sheltered as a kid, schools fights are never 1 on 1 and be prepared to have weapons involved. You can’t live this world thinking everyone plays fair lol that’s why you call the cops and never handle situations yourself if you’re not ready for the consequences.
@@dropshipincanadayou sound brain dead, never share your opinion again
@@dropshipincanadaregardless, they killed someone.
That is horrendous! I heard the police announce they have arrested 10 of the kids now! Can look it up on TH-cam.
I love that you guys have no filter and say exactly what you think!
So the pic of the "victim" shows him to be differnt or troubled...victim shaming much from the MSM?
They should be sent to prison for beating this kid to death.
As a white boy who grew up in the 90s, we wore chains, timbs, shell toes, fubu, etc
Exactly. i see this type of shit still on some people
Then you're part of the problem, substituting your own culture for an inferior one
Start holding parents responsible on some level when their children commit crimes. This is a parental issue
Y should the parents take the blame??that's what wrong with yall kids...it's everybody fault but the ppl that did it....gtfoh with that bullsbit
Exactly, when i was 13 i wanted to do a lot of things i wanted to fight a lot of kids but was scared of getting in trouble by my parents so i got saved. Parents should be held accountable also.
@@dropshipincanada ur comment makes no sense dude...sound like ur still about 13 years old
Parents are not free to deservedly smack children on the bum properly anymore. What the hell do you think is going to happen?
The world is controlled by idiots.
End if story.
Parents don't raise kids anymore... social media takes care of that... you just have to hope they pick and follow the right people and not go down the path of "FUCK THE SYSTEM" types....
793k subscribers. You say you don't know how you're going to fix the culture but I think you all are doing an amazing job at speaking truth regardless of color or culture and you have a great platform to inspire people to be better. You're all an inspiration, just hearing the intelligent and thoughtful conversations from you all can do a lot to help a lost kid.
I have a feeling that most of these kids are NOT! BORN AND RAISED IN LAS VEGAS. You know what I mean...
Fix the culture with the fear of 25 years of prison. Simple
When I saw this a few days ago it ruined my day. All day I was so bothered.
Whats up with the damn head stomping?? That should be immediate attempted murder charge.
I graduated in 98 and we had fights in school but sir didn't seem like it is now. I don't remember kids getting their head stomped and people being beaten to death.
I'm so glad my son is out of school. I'm absolutely praying for parents that have kids in school still. It must have been hard to send them to school after seeing this.
I’m sorry but it’s not right to suggest there was something wrong with the kid because of his appearance ..his “frequency”… bad take, Taj, seriously.
Agreed 100%
Even if what you are suggesting is true, that definitely makes it a hate crime!! No mercy for the heartless killers, none of them were sorry about taking a life. T.hat alone shows what assholes they are. They have all probably been visiously abused by their mamas many sadistic boyfriends!
That young man no matter WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE, was defending another kid from these killers that's why they beat him down.
Going off his father's reaction to it all, I think there is a strong case something was wrong with the kid mentally.
@@willyfistergash4514 that makes no sense. You can’t assume his father’s reaction insinuates anything. If anything, his father seems to be in shock.
As a white girl who grew up in the 90's, I don't think his jewelry is unusual. He looks like a throwback to the grunge era. The whole story is so sad no matter the circumstances. I don't know how we are going to fix the culture either.
I'm a petite white female who lives an hour outside of NYC. I went to high school in 2000--2004 and in those years, plus my years in middle school, I saw all of two fights and one was between two special needs kids so I don't think it counts much. My school was majority white. I spent one summer in summer school...in a mostly black and hispanic school. They searched you to walk into the school, there were security guards every few feet in the hallways. I did hear the racial comments since I was nearly the only white person, only one other white person in my class. Huge difference.
The news channel characterized this as a brawl- this was not a brawl. It definitely was a frenzied violent attack by predators. I hope they will all spend their lives behind bars and that others will learn from this. Thank you for discussing this on your channel. I enjoy your perspective on all your videos. The father of the victim is such a strong and loving man.
The news will not yalk about this as they are the wrong colour
The difference was it wasn't just kids being mean. These kids think they have every right to behave this way because of what the values in America have become and it's astonishing.
Yep..they csn do what they want cos they have rights..shame they don't know or are not taught the responsibilities that go with those rights...and this is a global issue
@@madmelwood3778in a global context population explosion may of led to a lot of poor parenting and desperation? It's hard to believe going from 3 billion to 8 billion in 50 years didn't strain everything that held society together. Then a generation comes along that has had a device in their hands, ever since they remember, and really Their main focus are apps that reward social narcissism. Doomed. With AI enforcement coming get ready to be a perfect little boy malleable to however the government see fit. Lol you like working right?? How about when they slowly destroy your life without you knowing for population control?? Buckle up.
now swap the roles and everyone would lose their shit. 🤦♀
Cities across the nation would burn and stores looted.
@@wsmokrdefinitely
Everyone who is everyone there would be plenty who would cheer it on
They're too weak to fight
It’s sad and I don’t know how the father was soooo calm
Update - the kids were in fact accounted for, they were told don't kill again and were sentenced to 1 day of detention.
THANK YOU for covering this. This literally hurt my heart. 😭😭😭😭
When I grew up I never saw more than a 1 on 1 fight, and I saw many fights, people started with me as well. And the people around watching on both sides would always break it up if someone took a hard punch to the face and move on. This sickens me.
Same, predominantly white school with probably less than 5% minorities. There was fights, but never really more than 1 on 1. There was one time where a few guys from another school came to jump 1 dude at the end of the day, but news travelled fast and before anything could happen, basically 200+ high school kids CHASED these would-be jumpers all through town and made them piss themselves trying to hid in a supermarket. 🤣🤣I will always remember that day, it was kinda wild seeing everybody running down the hill.
Thank you boys. Thank you for calling this out so much! And please, thank your parents, because they raised you all right!! ❤
The media chose that picture of that kid for obvious bias reasons. Could have used a better picture.
From what I heard is this kids friend was robbed by this group and he jumped in to help his friend trying to get his things back and the 15 kids jumped him and stomped him to death. Its insane to me ..thoughts and prayers to go out the kids family
Here's a question: If they beat and murdered someone close to you, your brother, your sister or anyone you love fiercely, would you then question if the potential sentence may be too harsh?