@@colinf3963 I mean, ideally, yes, but while his effort level hasn't been *great* this season, I don't think it was unfair of the team to assume he'd show up to play against Tampa. Guess we know better now!
The whole CBJ team is just throwing him under the bus like what Edmonton did to Yakupov. Hopefully this guy leaves that toxic team & locker room & go somewhere else like the Pens.
@@altqq1755 Why, because it happened once before with Jeff Carter? Every team loses UFAs. Not being able to keep Panarin hurts but he earned his right to choose. Not paying $10mil/year to Bobrosky looks to be the right move.
Columbus won that trade, big time. Now Duububoi gets to open his pickle jars in Winnipeg. Can't wait to see how Laine fares in Columbus, should be good. ;)
Laine's gonna get a rude awakening, a really really rude awakening. Torts is gonna put him through the ringer. Roslovic will also get a rude awakening, unless he takes his game to the next level, he's gonna be a bottom 6 player like he was on the Jets.
PLD only played the top line in Columbus because they have no depth at that position. I just can't understand what Winnipeg was thinking. Laine, I have no doubt will get on Torts bad side, and is traded by the deadline.
It's going to concern me hearing how many players left Columbus cut its not cool hearing about this in the small markets. Now I've got a Laine Jets jersey. WOW
@Shawn Berthelette I'm a Christian myself. However most things can be explained. Although I do believe there are evil people in this world, I don't think everything is Satanism. For example, in the Swiss railway opening, there's a logical explanation for the weird imagery: alpine folklore. I'm telling you this not in anger or spite, but to help you. Spamming people in comment sections scaring them about the end of the world is not the best way to spread your message.
@@jardine2392 i mean hes not wrong, but every player has their strengths and weaknesses and has a role to play, his isn't diggin for pucks, thats tavares. As long as he does what he's supposed to do, leafs'll be fine. Whether hes worth the money he gets, thats another discussion...
Small note, from what I've seen reported, he asked for a trade before the contract was signed, and agreed to a relatively cheap bridge deal because that's easier for Jarmo to trade than if a team had to negotiate after a trade
He's just smart. He knows that by not trying he's forcing the GM hands to trade him. Also, if he just sat and waited for the sign and trade he wouldn't make any money, but the trade would happen faster since he would not give anything to the team. What he's doing right now is cashing in while trying to force the GM hand. It's the fastest way he is gonna get out of town, but it just shows how little he cares about his teammates.
@@reymjard5494 is it the fastest way out of town though? by giving literally zero effort and tanking his trade value, CBJ GM is less likely to trade him because other GMs are probably contacting him with low ball trade offers for a former #3 overall pick. the kid has the talent, and in my opinion the fastest way out of town now is to show up, grind every night and force other GMs to offer trades your organization cant refuse. its not even smart, what GM looks at that shift and says to himself, "wow i'd really like that guy on my team"
@@reymjard5494 He sure aint getting a fast and easy trade :) Which good teams would risk to pay for him with solid players? None. Too big of risk for playoff contending teams to lose valuable players for a wildcard man child who might or might not work out. They would only pay scraps in a trade which cbj wouldnt take. Who can pay more than playoff contending teams? Rebuilding teams who suck atm. Thats where he is headed and more than likely different division. But wait why should they trade him now when his value is at its lowest point due to all this unwanted attention? Just keep him till his man child of brain realizes its more valuable for his own good to do his job well which he gets paid 5mil/per year for. Wait that makes sense if he shows the league and other teams he can contribute in a big way even in a bad situation where he doesnt want to be doesnt that make him seem like a valuable and flexible piece to any team? No way. Welp just gotta hope he decides to do his job at some point in the next 1and half seasons so he might get traded instead of sitting on a bench :)
In 5 games he's had 7 SOG and scored once. That's a couple games of not trying already. Meanwhile, if we look at other youngsters apparently wanting a trade, Patrik Laine played one game before injury and scored an assist and two goals, including the OT winner. If I'm a GM, absolutely i'm lowballing on PLD. This sort of play kills his trade value, and also puts a lot of risk into the deal for anyone picking him up. If i'm Columbus... idk. I think healthy scratch for a week, then get him back on the ice and tell him that until he picks up his effort again, i'm not even considering a trade. Or maybe I tell him to go see a therapist. Idk, but the effort level looks almost like someone who's severely depressed.
@@reaganharder1480 If im CBJ im not gonna trade him now. Only when his man child of a brain realizes its for his own good to do his job his getting paid from to raise his stock in other teams eyes. If he doesnt just bench him until half a year from his contract expiry date and then trade. Surely they wont accept any lowballing trades from playoff teams. Only a rebuilder who is willing to pay at least 1/3 of his value before the contract expires will be the destination for sure.
@@barsk1 the problem with that is that now you have $5M a year going to a guy who's not even playing. According to capfriendly, they've got roughly $1.8M of cap space, which would mean that PLD would have to be replaced by someone who costs 1.8M or less. That's 3rd liner sort of money. I get the sentiment of forcing him to stay until he shows up, but in terms of building a winning team i kinda doubt that's the best move.
I'm pretty sure if I was Torts, you kick Dubois out of the locker room. Just healthy scratch him and say "Just stay at home until we figure something out". He just doesn't want to be there, and you can let his lack of effort infect the rest of the team.
I would agree, but you also have to keep him playing. No team wants a guy that has been sitting and not game ready. Pld is not helping his stock tho with the lack luster play.
@Jay Sandhu torts has been Columbus’s best coach, leading to several consecutive playoff spots and their first playoff round victory this is on the players, not him
@Jay Sandhu torts is probably fired after this season, but pld is not being a leader or a good teammate. Both have to leave the organization. But torts is an amazing coach. Players both hate and love him, but hes able to squeeze what ever he can out of his team.
@@joshuamiller9793 He couldn't even pass basic conditioning during the preseason in his time in Washington. Then there's the Michael Vick play where he got knocked down on a block and just lay on the ground, not even trying to get up and pursue while the play was going on around him.
@Shawn Berthelette just get out of the comments. Nobody cares. Boo boo. End times. Yayyyyyyy. We’ve got hockey to watch. Fake news can wait for the off season.
@@aidanmiller5298 despite being a leafs fan, I've always wished for Columbus to have some success over the years. I hope you guys get a worthy return for him. Perhaps laine would be a good fit.
@@aaravgala6089 yeah, that would be annoying. But, no offence, Columbus has been stuck in a rut for a very long time now, and I could see the perspective of somebody like Dubois not wanting to waste (in search of a better word) is career in Columbus. Also, if they were to trade him, the return would certainly help your team along, no doubt. A bunch of prospects, eager to make the team, is better than a potential all star who doesn’t want to be there. All in all, I wish your team the best, from a bruins fan, but I saw someone comment something about Laine in return, and I would advise not to expect something like that in return, because, in my opinion, that would be well over paying on winnipegs part, especially after the performance Dubois just put in
When you teach/coach with old school approach and attitude only the strongest individuals will thrive and understand the ultimate goal behind all the "pushing" they had to take. Which nowadays cant/wont happen in most jobs including professional sports sadly.
That’s what I thought I heard at first but was obviously mistaken I thought he had a four minute shift so as to be dragged through glass for his decision making
i think it's a damn shame that he's doing this, because us columbus fans really really like the guy. he's kept the jackets just one winger away from being a very good team. but i think that it's clear that 1) he doesn't like Torts, which is pretty understandable, and 2) thinks he's being undervalued bc Bjorkstrand got signed for 5y 27.4 mil recently. he probably feels slighted, and is perhaps trying to slight the team by getting out asap and for lower values assets. it's frustrating to be in the metro for so long and to have come close to finishing out cinderella playoff runs, and i'm sure he thinks he can do better. just leaves the team, which has already weathered enough freakin storms, a bit stranded
Just watching this video again for no reason at all. I never subscribed to the idea that it was about his relationship with Torts, he said it wasn’t, Torts said it wasn’t, there was reporting. But after watching that Jets-Knights series, I’ve finally changed my mind. It was absolutely the relationship with Torts. He doesn’t like it when anyone pushes him, he doesn’t like playing defense, and when he gets called out he sulks. Bones couldn’t do anything with him either. Just such a shame.
Don't ever call John Tortorella sane on the internet, because the internet is forever. Just because he wasn't egregiously wrong this time, does not mean this comment will age well. Speaking as a NYR fan who used to like Torts.
Benched him the whole game is overreacted. That was a planned action from Torto before even the game started. It's obvisious Torto said something like "If you are not doing enough, I will bench you. I said it in front of the media. I will do it. Dare me now." And Dubois was "Challenge accepted".
@@orestes0883 id like torts in ottawa. He's a good coach problem is hos coaching style has a shelf life and only works for so long before the team stops responding. I'd also like to point out pld acts like the typical person from his generation dont want to work, entitled, cant handle someone who speaks their mind, needs a quiet room to cry in. Harden up get pisses off at the coach and prove him wrong, get tough, and fight. A guy like domi, scott stevens etc would throw guys like him around in practice. His teammates need to get mad at him and either snub him or fight him during practice like they use to.
There's a clip of an old Miami Dolphins game where they're running a play, trick play thing, and their quarterback at the time was a man named Jay Cutler. They start the play and he doesn't move and doesn't look like he cares at all. Just stands there. Only similar one I can think of for baseball is an older one. Years ago the Tampa Bay Rays were playing the Baltimore Orioles. Their center fielder was one of the Upton brothers (I believe BJ Upton) and the Orioles Adam Jones hit the ball into center. BJ Upton decided to go for a leisurely jog after the ball instead of hustling after the ball and ended up giving Adam Jones and inside the park homerun.
From what I have heard, that was Cutler's job on the play. As a QB split at WR during a trick play going away from him, the only reasonable way he can hurt this play is if he gets injured. As a result, if what I heard then is accurate, Cutler was told to just stand there. Yes, it looked ridiculous. However, it makes logical sense.
I’m a CBJ fan Dubois used to be my favorite player. I just don’t understand why he wouldn’t show a little bit of effort? The better he plays now, the quicker he’ll get traded. Jarmo is a good GM for a small market team like us, he isn’t going to give PLD away for nothing. At this point his trade value is already as low as its ever been, why not send him down to the minors?
Hey Steve, just wanted to say thanks for your take here. I’ve seen a lot of stuff just blasting Torts without taking much into consideration (for example not knowing why Dubois wants out and just guessing) but this was a very fair and balanced take. Big thanks from a CBJ fan.
He's only hurting himself. Does he really think that a contending team is gonna want to trade for a guy to pay him 5 million a year and if things don't work out exactly how he wants he's just going to stop playing? I've seen that in basketball and baseball.....but never in hockey
It won't hurt him at all. Ryan Johansen did almost the same thing and quit trying and it got him traded to Nashville, luckily for us, we got Seth Jones in return.
Umm? Dubois asked for a trade before he signed the contract. He signed it at a cheap price for a faster and easier trade. Why people don't understand that? 😅
I feel like there are behind the scene things we aren't privy to that make this situation make sense? Otherwise, wtf is this sh*t show? Regardless of who is at fault (I'm thinking the major candidates are Torts or PLD pretty exclusively), I feel bad for Columbus fans.
I feel like if it was actually Torts fault people dont want to play here, they would say it after they left. I think Torts is too tough and Dubois is used to being pampered. But idk
Dubios: Every team in the league would love to pick me up in a lopsided trade where I'm undervalued. I'll play like ass until they are forced to trade me. It won't change my pay. Every team in the league: We won't touch the guy because we know the minute there are problems we are going to get this from him. The guy will never play on this team! Me: Sean Avery played for more than one team...
@Shawn Berthelette First this is hockey, weirdo. Second, your god is a hypocrite. He's an angry and jealous god but for you anger and jealousy are sins. He demands worship and demands asking for forgiveness but you have free will and are supposed to be the bride of Christ - in what other relationship would demanding that you ask for forgiveness "or else" actually work? He made you in his image, meaning you're created to be just like him (full of anger, wrath, vengence, jealousy, etc) but then holds you accountable for it. I'll pass on your codependent, hypocritical, passive aggressive god. Thanks though!
@Fuh Q I've read the Bible more times than I care to admit. It's closed minded people like you, who respond without even reading past the first couple sentences before attempting to pass judgement on someone that make people like me, who think about the words in that book, realize Christianity is a charade. I consider myself lucky that you had to go vs trying to hand me a tract with some casually repeated BS on it. I bet you only read the first 5 chapters of Genesis based on the "knowledge" you're trying to vomit. Kick rocks.
PLD has responsibility - to his coaches, his teammates, and himself - to give a damn while he is on the ice wearing that sweater. He needs to be putting in effort on every shift. He said, in multiple interviews, that while he is here, he will be putting forth effort to help the team win. Last night was not that.
And until that TB game, i was under the impression he was giving his best efforts, then he got benched vs Detroit, and now im guessing he's being petty.
@@SleepyScylla I get the guy being frustrated (obviously I can't speak to the what or why of anything), but...hes currently paid by CBJ. He gets benched in one game? He's not the only player to have that happen. Sure, to him, he's probably justified in being mad about it, but even for him, not caring doesn't make sense. If he asked for a trade- what impression does his behavior give the other teams if things get tough? I'm just saying, perfect scenario, he gets traded and can actually be happy playing somewhere, but his actions aren't exactly selling much.
@@rae.elaine92 my thoughts exactly. If you're wanting a trade you put all your effort into upping your game to show prospective teams what they'd be getting in value. They're gonna see you coasting and short-shifting cos you don't care then you won't get any interested parties. Also if they see this as your response to being benched, regardless of the reason behind it, you'll be seen as a potential off-ice problem the teams don't want.
Men faut comprendre que si tu est plus heureux ou se que tu est tu veut changer de place c pareille pour lui il voulais partir avant d'avoir signer son nouveau contrat pour quoi donnerais t-il quoi de se soit au jacket offensivement si il ne veulent pas l'échanger il leurs force la main de la meilleure manière et je sais qu'il est comme tout québécois et qu'il donnerai son 110% avec mtl parce que je suis sur qu'il a le CH tatouer sur le coeur comme les vrai fan des Canadiens
Tu verrais changer d'attitude s'il devait venir à Montréal. C'est ça sa source de motivation intrinsèque! Dubois veut juste plus jouer à Columbus pour des raisons extérieures au jeu. Présentement, la direction là-bas est en train de le décourager. Un peu comme Patrick Roy contre Mario Tremblay et Rénald Corey... mais Roy a juste pété les plombs. Disons qu'il a eu de travers lorsque la direction a décidé de punir Mario Roberge en brûlant sa carrière professionnelle et qu'ils se sont tournés vers Roy "Ne crois pas parce que tu es Patrick Roy que tu n'auras pas le même sort. T'es le prochain".
Steve just to correct you on one thing, apparently PLD requested a trade sometime during the negotiations, before he signed the contract. He only signed it to make it easier for Jarmo to trade him
First of all, this isn't over one horrible shift, it's been building since the season started. His effort just hasn't been there, and after the crap he pulled last night, he's luck Torts didn't shoot him out of the cannon. Secondly, if he's going to play like that, he's better off not even being on the ice. He's a liability. Give his spot to someone who's going to put in the effort and, I don't know, actually be effective.
as a Canadiens fan, I agree. The season is still young tho but I like how they play. I would't risk to trade the futur of the franchise like a 1st round pick or a Suzuki/KK for a guy who doesn't honor his contract because he's upset. I mean look at Duchene. His last moments with the Avs, he at least showed up every game, every week and still playing good and trying to win. That's not what I see with Dubois and that's what worries me the most.
Tortorella wanted to humiliate his top player in front of the whole world. That's on him. When he did the same thing last year, Dubois scored a hat trick the game after and notice how Tortorella got all the credit from that. I wouldn't want to give credit to that jerk again if I were Dubois. Well done, Dubois. Come to Montreal.
Dubois has ruined his trade value, humiliated the organization, been absolutely selfish at the expense of his teammates, served as a distraction no matter what the team says, hung everyone out to dry to have his passive aggressive tantrum, acted completely unprofessional and unbecoming of an NHL player, tarnished his own reputation, and within a matter of two weeks completely turned an entire fan base unequivocally against him. Also Tortorella needs to take a chill pill sometimes.
Nah Jeff Carter played better than that, he was just pissy while doing it. This is the kind of effort that gets guys scratched from their beer league teams.
@@ben3908 oh yeah, he's going to sit in Columbus's 7th circle of hell with Carter and Foote for as long as that city stands. They'll erect a statue of famed Michigan product Zach Werenski in front of the university before they stop cursing his name.
2:54 - My mind jumps to the fall of 2004 when Vince Carter wanted the Raptors to trade him, during a game against Seattle he (allegedly) went over to the SuperSonics bench during a late-game timeout and _told them what play his Raptors were running._ That's not just no effort, that's straight up sabotaging your own team so they'll trade you.
Do you really want a guy like this on your team? Habs already gave their Drouin, who despite oodles of skill goes between pee-wee to NHL level effort game to game
Randy Moss, (NFL) Vikings and probably the Raiders too. He would just stand at the line of scrimmage and pretty much signal to everyone that the play was not coming his way.
Speaking as a Lightning fan, I’m glad he decided to hot dog it out there, but he’s hurting his trade value by showing that if he doesn’t get what he wants, he’s going to give minimal effort
PLD is a joke What insult to the Columbus blue jackets to sign a 10 M contract then ask for a trade. Then ask, I want to go to a big market team (insulting the whole fan base of Columbus Blue Jackets in the process) and then not caring if he plays... he shouldn’t get paid if he doesn’t want to play... how bout that ?
He signed that contract because he had no other options. He was an RFA without arbitration rights. He could have held out for an offer sheet I guess, but with a flat cap, who had money to give him? Plus, with the kind of deal he wanted, it would have taken at minimum 2 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd, possibly 4 #1s, on top of paying him ~$10M per. At that point, it's probably cheaper to trade for him. Also, side note, has anyone actually voluntarily stayed in Columbus ever? Carter: traded, Nash: traded, Saad: traded, Panarin: walks, Duchene: walks, Bobrovsky: walks, and now Dubios demands a trade. As for everyone siting Albert Haynesworth, he didn't stop trying until after he got the HUGE contract he wanted.
it was smart to sign a small bridge deal. He knew he could move in a cap tight market and the team getting him would still have him as an RFA. WIN WIN great trade today. CBJ won imho
It looks pretty simple to me, he wants a trade and didn't get one, and now he's "punishing" the jackets by not performing to his standard. Just scratch him and put in Gerbe or someone who wants to be there. As a player, I would be pissed that my teammate is acting like this, so they may be shutting him out as well. Scratch him, make him see as little NHL ice as possible
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They didn't bench him to teach him a lesson they benched him so we'd have 5 men on the ice.... not 4 and a spectator.
So then scratch him, don't dress him knowing full well that the second you don't like his effort you're gonna bench him.
@@colinf3963 I mean, ideally, yes, but while his effort level hasn't been *great* this season, I don't think it was unfair of the team to assume he'd show up to play against Tampa. Guess we know better now!
@@colinf3963 I suspect he will be a scratch tomorrow
The whole CBJ team is just throwing him under the bus like what Edmonton did to Yakupov. Hopefully this guy leaves that toxic team & locker room & go somewhere else like the Pens.
@@redbear9943 In what possible way are they throwing him under the bus?
Dude's legit skating like he's in the pregame warmups. Ridiculous.
That was so funny lol
Some say funny, I say embarrassing, inexcusable... Nobody signing for a cool ten mil should even skate like that during warm ups.
@@DavePainkiller its funny cuz its the jackets. any other team it would be sad. jackets are used to this which makes it hilarious
@Fuh Q oh look another arrogant Canadian. Just enjoy losing in the juniors
@@altqq1755 Why, because it happened once before with Jeff Carter?
Every team loses UFAs. Not being able to keep Panarin hurts but he earned his right to choose. Not paying $10mil/year to Bobrosky looks to be the right move.
“Pierre Luc Dubois used lest effort on this play then most people do on a jar of pickles” 🤣🤣
Columbus- we want you to be on this team
Dubois- well now I am not doing it
“I don’t want to” - Dubois
Similar to Lindros who requested to be traded and strictly refused to play for the nordiques when he was drafted by them.
Who’s here after they traded him for Patrick laine
Columbus won that trade, big time. Now Duububoi gets to open his pickle jars in Winnipeg. Can't wait to see how Laine fares in Columbus, should be good. ;)
Yeah buddy!
Laine's gonna get a rude awakening, a really really rude awakening. Torts is gonna put him through the ringer. Roslovic will also get a rude awakening, unless he takes his game to the next level, he's gonna be a bottom 6 player like he was on the Jets.
PLD only played the top line in Columbus because they have no depth at that position. I just can't understand what Winnipeg was thinking. Laine, I have no doubt will get on Torts bad side, and is traded by the deadline.
It's going to concern me hearing how many players left Columbus cut its not cool hearing about this in the small markets. Now I've got a Laine Jets jersey. WOW
I like his effort, reminds me of another player
lmao
😂
Loui was nuts on dallas then...
Pictured one?😂
Best hockey comment in a long time. As a canucks fan, this made me howl.
It looked like the scene from space jam when the aliens stole the talent from the NBA players
Underrated comment
@Shawn Berthelette Personally if I'm looking for a work of fiction I prefer the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy over the bible.
@Shawn Berthelette sir this is a wendys
@Shawn Berthelette I'm a Christian myself. However most things can be explained. Although I do believe there are evil people in this world, I don't think everything is Satanism. For example, in the Swiss railway opening, there's a logical explanation for the weird imagery: alpine folklore. I'm telling you this not in anger or spite, but to help you. Spamming people in comment sections scaring them about the end of the world is not the best way to spread your message.
“What are you doing?”
He’s trying to get traded lmao
Dubois plays like how people on Twitter think William Nylander plays.
William nylander is a star 😃😃 I’m a leafs fan
Nylander IS a floater.
Nylander is a pre-madonna who is always second in the corner.
@@jismjacket Thank you for proving his point
@@jardine2392 i mean hes not wrong, but every player has their strengths and weaknesses and has a role to play, his isn't diggin for pucks, thats tavares. As long as he does what he's supposed to do, leafs'll be fine. Whether hes worth the money he gets, thats another discussion...
“Won’t get anyone good”
Columbus: hold my beer
Yeah we did!
”Auto focus has left The building”
Nah just benched for not trying.
I hope the coach screamed at it afterwards
dubois is actually lucky that there’s no fan attendance right now. he would be getting booed out of his own barn
I would have kept him out there for a full 60 minutes LOL
Small note, from what I've seen reported, he asked for a trade before the contract was signed, and agreed to a relatively cheap bridge deal because that's easier for Jarmo to trade than if a team had to negotiate after a trade
He's just smart. He knows that by not trying he's forcing the GM hands to trade him. Also, if he just sat and waited for the sign and trade he wouldn't make any money, but the trade would happen faster since he would not give anything to the team. What he's doing right now is cashing in while trying to force the GM hand. It's the fastest way he is gonna get out of town, but it just shows how little he cares about his teammates.
@@reymjard5494 yeah, problem is teams are less likely to trade for him if this is the result of being unhappy
@@reymjard5494 is it the fastest way out of town though? by giving literally zero effort and tanking his trade value, CBJ GM is less likely to trade him because other GMs are probably contacting him with low ball trade offers for a former #3 overall pick. the kid has the talent, and in my opinion the fastest way out of town now is to show up, grind every night and force other GMs to offer trades your organization cant refuse.
its not even smart, what GM looks at that shift and says to himself, "wow i'd really like that guy on my team"
@@gothvampkid3444 Good point: (what GM looks at that shift and says to himself, "wow I'd really like that guy on my team")
@@reymjard5494 He sure aint getting a fast and easy trade :) Which good teams would risk to pay for him with solid players? None. Too big of risk for playoff contending teams to lose valuable players for a wildcard man child who might or might not work out. They would only pay scraps in a trade which cbj wouldnt take. Who can pay more than playoff contending teams? Rebuilding teams who suck atm. Thats where he is headed and more than likely different division. But wait why should they trade him now when his value is at its lowest point due to all this unwanted attention? Just keep him till his man child of brain realizes its more valuable for his own good to do his job well which he gets paid 5mil/per year for. Wait that makes sense if he shows the league and other teams he can contribute in a big way even in a bad situation where he doesnt want to be doesnt that make him seem like a valuable and flexible piece to any team? No way. Welp just gotta hope he decides to do his job at some point in the next 1and half seasons so he might get traded instead of sitting on a bench :)
Obviously PLD went to the Jay Cutler school of "DON'T CARE"
And then the Albert Haynesworth College of Arts and Laziness
Cutler was the first person that came to mind, too.
Cutler and Haynesworth instantly popped into my head lol
This game single handedly cost the Blue Jackets a first round pick in whatever trade is coming soon
Yep, If I'm a GM looking to get him, I'm sending low ball offers and waiting for this situation to implode
I wouldn’t go that far, it’s only one game. But ya if this continues for a few more games I think you’re right
In 5 games he's had 7 SOG and scored once. That's a couple games of not trying already. Meanwhile, if we look at other youngsters apparently wanting a trade, Patrik Laine played one game before injury and scored an assist and two goals, including the OT winner.
If I'm a GM, absolutely i'm lowballing on PLD. This sort of play kills his trade value, and also puts a lot of risk into the deal for anyone picking him up.
If i'm Columbus... idk. I think healthy scratch for a week, then get him back on the ice and tell him that until he picks up his effort again, i'm not even considering a trade.
Or maybe I tell him to go see a therapist. Idk, but the effort level looks almost like someone who's severely depressed.
@@reaganharder1480 If im CBJ im not gonna trade him now. Only when his man child of a brain realizes its for his own good to do his job his getting paid from to raise his stock in other teams eyes. If he doesnt just bench him until half a year from his contract expiry date and then trade. Surely they wont accept any lowballing trades from playoff teams. Only a rebuilder who is willing to pay at least 1/3 of his value before the contract expires will be the destination for sure.
@@barsk1 the problem with that is that now you have $5M a year going to a guy who's not even playing. According to capfriendly, they've got roughly $1.8M of cap space, which would mean that PLD would have to be replaced by someone who costs 1.8M or less. That's 3rd liner sort of money. I get the sentiment of forcing him to stay until he shows up, but in terms of building a winning team i kinda doubt that's the best move.
I get he's unhappy with his current situation and trying to make a point, but he's acting like a toddler throwing a tantrum. It's really immature 🙄
You’re not wrong. Now I kind of want to see Winnipeg vs Columbus in the Stanley Cup Finals just because of the storylines
@@BrattyNerdGirl never ever going to happen
@@davidkruse4030 oh I know it’s not but a girl can dream
I'm pretty sure if I was Torts, you kick Dubois out of the locker room. Just healthy scratch him and say "Just stay at home until we figure something out". He just doesn't want to be there, and you can let his lack of effort infect the rest of the team.
Yes we need this
I would agree, but you also have to keep him playing. No team wants a guy that has been sitting and not game ready. Pld is not helping his stock tho with the lack luster play.
I totally agree with you! i would send him home and just scratch him for the whole season and trade him next draft/offseason when teams have more cap
@Jay Sandhu torts has been Columbus’s best coach, leading to several consecutive playoff spots and their first playoff round victory this is on the players, not him
@Jay Sandhu torts is probably fired after this season, but pld is not being a leader or a good teammate. Both have to leave the organization. But torts is an amazing coach. Players both hate and love him, but hes able to squeeze what ever he can out of his team.
I hate the "big bad Torts" narrative being pushed by Canadian media. Your take was quite refreshing, thanks Steve.
Toronto media. Not Canadian media.
Albert Haynesworth for a guy that the team that signed him almost immediately regretted it.
Huge NFL Junkie here, Alber Haynesworth didn't give lack of effort like that. The only time I've seen that in the NFL is the Pro Bowl.
@@joshuamiller9793 The man literally fell during a play and just laid there. Not injured. Just watching the play.
@@joshuamiller9793 He couldn't even pass basic conditioning during the preseason in his time in Washington. Then there's the Michael Vick play where he got knocked down on a block and just lay on the ground, not even trying to get up and pursue while the play was going on around him.
@Shawn Berthelette just get out of the comments. Nobody cares. Boo boo. End times. Yayyyyyyy. We’ve got hockey to watch. Fake news can wait for the off season.
Imagine if they just sit him for 2 years
i don’t think he’d care, that’s 10 mil for doing nothing
They could. But before his contract expires they would dump him to another team :)
@@barsk1 that would be really stupid
Well now it’s Winnipeg’s job to do that
being a blue jackets fan is just pain at this point
I was curious what the actual fans would think. I personally would be furious.
@@josepharthurbennett Some anger but pretty much just pure, unfiltered pain
@@aidanmiller5298 despite being a leafs fan, I've always wished for Columbus to have some success over the years. I hope you guys get a worthy return for him. Perhaps laine would be a good fit.
It’s so annoying how players just have success here than want to leave for a bigger market.
@@aaravgala6089 yeah, that would be annoying. But, no offence, Columbus has been stuck in a rut for a very long time now, and I could see the perspective of somebody like Dubois not wanting to waste (in search of a better word) is career in Columbus. Also, if they were to trade him, the return would certainly help your team along, no doubt. A bunch of prospects, eager to make the team, is better than a potential all star who doesn’t want to be there. All in all, I wish your team the best, from a bruins fan, but I saw someone comment something about Laine in return, and I would advise not to expect something like that in return, because, in my opinion, that would be well over paying on winnipegs part, especially after the performance Dubois just put in
Maybe I'm just old school but man I'd love to play for a coach like Torts, he doesn't put up with BS and I love it
totally agree and some players actually wanna go there because of him
He's a hardass, but he seems to be a fair coach. If you show up and actually try, he'll give you a chance.
When you teach/coach with old school approach and attitude only the strongest individuals will thrive and understand the ultimate goal behind all the "pushing" they had to take. Which nowadays cant/wont happen in most jobs including professional sports sadly.
@Shawn Berthelette i honestly appreciate you writing all that but im also glad that im from finland not the us
Dubois isn’t the sharpest pencil in the class room!
I think Vince Carters effort before he was traded to the Nets would of been a better analogy.
Speaking of NJ That would be a good move to trade to Devils for Zacha and expiring contract winger Gusev
@Fuh Q lol, ok
I go to work and not try all the time.... 😂 😂 😂
Maybe they can trade him to a KHL eastern conference team?!
Kunlun Red Stars looks like a good option, yes
LOL. Send him to Metallurg in the middle of fricken nowhere.
The way PLD played even a 42 year old Pavel Datsyuk from KHL would be an improvement.
@@psynque I bet Jagr plays harder for Kladno at 48 than Dubois did last night.
Instead of benching him, he should have told him to stay out there for a 5 or 6 minute shift
That’s what I thought I heard at first but was obviously mistaken
I thought he had a four minute shift so as to be dragged through glass for his decision making
Well he's not exactly Alex Kovalev who was on the ice for 5 to 6 minutes drew two penalties and scored before he got off.
pull a kozlov
@Shawn Berthelette Yeah, but when did the rapture happen, my friend? Kinda missing a rather key part to the start of the story.
Even Carter at least played before he was traded
PLD's shift reminds me of Albert Hainsworth when he played for the redskins against Michael Vick 😂
Dubois should be loaned to the KHL by the Jackets just to teach this kid some humility
That’s still a great league he’d probably do great over there but it would never happen
i think it's a damn shame that he's doing this, because us columbus fans really really like the guy. he's kept the jackets just one winger away from being a very good team. but i think that it's clear that 1) he doesn't like Torts, which is pretty understandable, and 2) thinks he's being undervalued bc Bjorkstrand got signed for 5y 27.4 mil recently. he probably feels slighted, and is perhaps trying to slight the team by getting out asap and for lower values assets. it's frustrating to be in the metro for so long and to have come close to finishing out cinderella playoff runs, and i'm sure he thinks he can do better. just leaves the team, which has already weathered enough freakin storms, a bit stranded
Just watching this video again for no reason at all. I never subscribed to the idea that it was about his relationship with Torts, he said it wasn’t, Torts said it wasn’t, there was reporting. But after watching that Jets-Knights series, I’ve finally changed my mind. It was absolutely the relationship with Torts. He doesn’t like it when anyone pushes him, he doesn’t like playing defense, and when he gets called out he sulks. Bones couldn’t do anything with him either. Just such a shame.
“And you probably don’t even get a good return for him”
just some ahler named laine. i don’t think he’s very good
@@goff38 no hes pretty damn good....for an AHL player. He'll be a top player in a few years.
@@parkersullivan2234 woooosh
@@goff38 Really wasn't obvious at all if you were joking.
Was wondering if Torts was nuts benching him so early. After seeing how DuBois played, Torts is perfectly sane. Wow!
Don't ever call John Tortorella sane on the internet, because the internet is forever. Just because he wasn't egregiously wrong this time, does not mean this comment will age well. Speaking as a NYR fan who used to like Torts.
@@orestes0883 Yeah, he was pretty crazy when he was with the Rangers but great entertainment :D
I'm sure it was entertaining for all Devils' fans, for us not so much.
Benched him the whole game is overreacted. That was a planned action from Torto before even the game started. It's obvisious Torto said something like "If you are not doing enough, I will bench you. I said it in front of the media. I will do it. Dare me now." And Dubois was "Challenge accepted".
@@orestes0883 id like torts in ottawa. He's a good coach problem is hos coaching style has a shelf life and only works for so long before the team stops responding.
I'd also like to point out pld acts like the typical person from his generation dont want to work, entitled, cant handle someone who speaks their mind, needs a quiet room to cry in.
Harden up get pisses off at the coach and prove him wrong, get tough, and fight. A guy like domi, scott stevens etc would throw guys like him around in practice. His teammates need to get mad at him and either snub him or fight him during practice like they use to.
Tyler Johnson never won a battle against PLD that easily. TJ seemed a little surprised after the play.
Two dangit videos in the same week? NOW THATS A HAT PICK!!!!!!
Ya lol
I only see one “dang it’s” video.
@@MmaFan34 there's another one that was posted earlier this week
I thought I was going to have to wait a week for this one.
@Shawn Berthelette get some help bud
Someone should fight him in practice.
There's a clip of an old Miami Dolphins game where they're running a play, trick play thing, and their quarterback at the time was a man named Jay Cutler. They start the play and he doesn't move and doesn't look like he cares at all. Just stands there. Only similar one I can think of for baseball is an older one. Years ago the Tampa Bay Rays were playing the Baltimore Orioles. Their center fielder was one of the Upton brothers (I believe BJ Upton) and the Orioles Adam Jones hit the ball into center. BJ Upton decided to go for a leisurely jog after the ball instead of hustling after the ball and ended up giving Adam Jones and inside the park homerun.
From what I have heard, that was Cutler's job on the play. As a QB split at WR during a trick play going away from him, the only reasonable way he can hurt this play is if he gets injured. As a result, if what I heard then is accurate, Cutler was told to just stand there. Yes, it looked ridiculous. However, it makes logical sense.
I’m a CBJ fan Dubois used to be my favorite player. I just don’t understand why he wouldn’t show a little bit of effort? The better he plays now, the quicker he’ll get traded. Jarmo is a good GM for a small market team like us, he isn’t going to give PLD away for nothing. At this point his trade value is already as low as its ever been, why not send him down to the minors?
It probably couldn't go to the minors due his contact...now he can skate for a big city of the size of Toledo LoL
4:19 getting suspended from school in a nutshell
Hey Steve, just wanted to say thanks for your take here. I’ve seen a lot of stuff just blasting Torts without taking much into consideration (for example not knowing why Dubois wants out and just guessing) but this was a very fair and balanced take. Big thanks from a CBJ fan.
The buffalo bills had a player retire mid game. That’s was interesting 🤣
At least Matt Duchene played instead of pulling a DuBois when he wanted out of the Avs.
his stick was on the ice for 4 seconds that whole shift
He's only hurting himself. Does he really think that a contending team is gonna want to trade for a guy to pay him 5 million a year and if things don't work out exactly how he wants he's just going to stop playing? I've seen that in basketball and baseball.....but never in hockey
It won't hurt him at all. Ryan Johansen did almost the same thing and quit trying and it got him traded to Nashville, luckily for us, we got Seth Jones in return.
Nah cousin.. hes sending a message. You see what harden did his first game on the nets?
Habs will. They can't resist that sweet sweet French name.
no he's not. Torts is clearly the problem here like he always is.
@Shawn Berthelette I am the Devil
Why would any other team take a player with this attitude
Jets
"probably not going to get a good return for him"... lmao
This just makes his value drop like a rock. What guarantees that he won't do the same with other teams?
At this rate he’ll be traded as a cap dump to New Jersey
That could potientally be great for Cbj if Zacha is involved in trade with a expiring contract like Gusev
Lol.. Yeah no. We don't need him in New Jersey; we're perfectly fine as we are. Our only issue is trying to dump PK Subban's ass.
well he’s with Winnipeg now lol
The whole Detroit red wings team last season lol
He wanted a big city market....there was Detroit LoL
well loui eriksson plays like he’s at a public skate and he gets paid 6 mil 💀
Guy signs a 10M DOLLAR DEAL AND THEN WANTS TO BE TRADED.
Thank you for that comment, I didnt know based on the video.
Umm? Dubois asked for a trade before he signed the contract. He signed it at a cheap price for a faster and easier trade. Why people don't understand that? 😅
@@flyingsquid42 yeah people don’t understand that
It's easier to be traded with a contract than without one
Sry I commented before watching the whole thing lol
I feel like there are behind the scene things we aren't privy to that make this situation make sense? Otherwise, wtf is this sh*t show? Regardless of who is at fault (I'm thinking the major candidates are Torts or PLD pretty exclusively), I feel bad for Columbus fans.
@Coding Crusader Yup. One day old comment did not age well.
I feel like if it was actually Torts fault people dont want to play here, they would say it after they left. I think Torts is too tough and Dubois is used to being pampered. But idk
@@headreddedstepchild6177 I mean, people have said it everywhere he has coached...
I'd be pissed if he was on my team. Press box for this guy
Has going to have a problem getting a team to pick him up when he plays like that!!
Dubios:
Every team in the league would love to pick me up in a lopsided trade where I'm undervalued. I'll play like ass until they are forced to trade me. It won't change my pay.
Every team in the league:
We won't touch the guy because we know the minute there are problems we are going to get this from him. The guy will never play on this team!
Me:
Sean Avery played for more than one team...
@Shawn Berthelette First this is hockey, weirdo.
Second, your god is a hypocrite. He's an angry and jealous god but for you anger and jealousy are sins. He demands worship and demands asking for forgiveness but you have free will and are supposed to be the bride of Christ - in what other relationship would demanding that you ask for forgiveness "or else" actually work? He made you in his image, meaning you're created to be just like him (full of anger, wrath, vengence, jealousy, etc) but then holds you accountable for it. I'll pass on your codependent, hypocritical, passive aggressive god. Thanks though!
What about the Kraken in expansion?
@Fuh Q I've read the Bible more times than I care to admit. It's closed minded people like you, who respond without even reading past the first couple sentences before attempting to pass judgement on someone that make people like me, who think about the words in that book, realize Christianity is a charade. I consider myself lucky that you had to go vs trying to hand me a tract with some casually repeated BS on it. I bet you only read the first 5 chapters of Genesis based on the "knowledge" you're trying to vomit. Kick rocks.
Making himself look real enticing for when he comes up for UFA...
hes a rfa until 26 or 27 4 years away
PLD has responsibility - to his coaches, his teammates, and himself - to give a damn while he is on the ice wearing that sweater. He needs to be putting in effort on every shift. He said, in multiple interviews, that while he is here, he will be putting forth effort to help the team win. Last night was not that.
And until that TB game, i was under the impression he was giving his best efforts, then he got benched vs Detroit, and now im guessing he's being petty.
@@SleepyScylla I get the guy being frustrated (obviously I can't speak to the what or why of anything), but...hes currently paid by CBJ. He gets benched in one game? He's not the only player to have that happen. Sure, to him, he's probably justified in being mad about it, but even for him, not caring doesn't make sense. If he asked for a trade- what impression does his behavior give the other teams if things get tough? I'm just saying, perfect scenario, he gets traded and can actually be happy playing somewhere, but his actions aren't exactly selling much.
@@rae.elaine92 my thoughts exactly. If you're wanting a trade you put all your effort into upping your game to show prospective teams what they'd be getting in value. They're gonna see you coasting and short-shifting cos you don't care then you won't get any interested parties.
Also if they see this as your response to being benched, regardless of the reason behind it, you'll be seen as a potential off-ice problem the teams don't want.
His effort reminds me of James Neal with the flames
A player who infamously didn’t try: Manny Ramirez with the Red Sox.
He knew exactly what he was doing. He's gonna light it up with the Jets
Yes he will except the Jets will find a way to lose the game
As a Habs fan, I heard alot of talk of him coming to Montreal. After that shift I don't know if I want him wearing the Bleu Blanc Rouge.
Men faut comprendre que si tu est plus heureux ou se que tu est tu veut changer de place c pareille pour lui il voulais partir avant d'avoir signer son nouveau contrat pour quoi donnerais t-il quoi de se soit au jacket offensivement si il ne veulent pas l'échanger il leurs force la main de la meilleure manière et je sais qu'il est comme tout québécois et qu'il donnerai son 110% avec mtl parce que je suis sur qu'il a le CH tatouer sur le coeur comme les vrai fan des Canadiens
Tu verrais changer d'attitude s'il devait venir à Montréal. C'est ça sa source de motivation intrinsèque! Dubois veut juste plus jouer à Columbus pour des raisons extérieures au jeu. Présentement, la direction là-bas est en train de le décourager. Un peu comme Patrick Roy contre Mario Tremblay et Rénald Corey... mais Roy a juste pété les plombs. Disons qu'il a eu de travers lorsque la direction a décidé de punir Mario Roberge en brûlant sa carrière professionnelle et qu'ils se sont tournés vers Roy "Ne crois pas parce que tu es Patrick Roy que tu n'auras pas le même sort. T'es le prochain".
@Shawn Berthelette do you need a hug?
Steve just to correct you on one thing, apparently PLD requested a trade sometime during the negotiations, before he signed the contract. He only signed it to make it easier for Jarmo to trade him
pov: Dubois got traded to Winnipeg for Laine after this lazy effort and terrible interview... I think CBJ won this trade
In hindsight, it was a tie
Albert Haynesworth comes to mind when it comes to effort, or lack there of
First of all, this isn't over one horrible shift, it's been building since the season started. His effort just hasn't been there, and after the crap he pulled last night, he's luck Torts didn't shoot him out of the cannon. Secondly, if he's going to play like that, he's better off not even being on the ice. He's a liability. Give his spot to someone who's going to put in the effort and, I don't know, actually be effective.
As a mtl fan... i am not happy about how Dubois is handeling himself... would certainly not strip my team to acquire him!
Well said.
as a Canadiens fan, I agree. The season is still young tho but I like how they play. I would't risk to trade the futur of the franchise like a 1st round pick or a Suzuki/KK for a guy who doesn't honor his contract because he's upset.
I mean look at Duchene. His last moments with the Avs, he at least showed up every game, every week and still playing good and trying to win. That's not what I see with Dubois and that's what worries me the most.
I agree. With that attitude, he's barely worth a 1st
Would make a very good fit with JDrouin, no? Seems like similar personalities...
At least like when JD was in Tampa, lol!
Tortorella wanted to humiliate his top player in front of the whole world. That's on him.
When he did the same thing last year, Dubois scored a hat trick the game after and notice how Tortorella got all the credit from that. I wouldn't want to give credit to that jerk again if I were Dubois.
Well done, Dubois. Come to Montreal.
3:15 Jack Rodwell, Sunderland FC. The guy spent years on a divison 1 contract, pretending to be injured, while his team got relegated twice....
Dubois has ruined his trade value, humiliated the organization, been absolutely selfish at the expense of his teammates, served as a distraction no matter what the team says, hung everyone out to dry to have his passive aggressive tantrum, acted completely unprofessional and unbecoming of an NHL player, tarnished his own reputation, and within a matter of two weeks completely turned an entire fan base unequivocally against him.
Also Tortorella needs to take a chill pill sometimes.
Same thing happened when the Jackets traded for Jeff Carter, dude wanted out day 1 and played awful
Nah Jeff Carter played better than that, he was just pissy while doing it. This is the kind of effort that gets guys scratched from their beer league teams.
that's true, mostly meant it feels like Dubois is choosing that route for how he wants to leave Cbus
@@ben3908 oh yeah, he's going to sit in Columbus's 7th circle of hell with Carter and Foote for as long as that city stands. They'll erect a statue of famed Michigan product Zach Werenski in front of the university before they stop cursing his name.
Me in my beer hockey league, last shift of the match when you already have won 12-3 . Just waiting for the bench and locker beer .
Put Kevin Stenlund in for CBJ. Koivu is also coming off the covid list
My friend, I know you dislike Boston Hockey but Boston Basketball, Kyrie gave no love to the Celtics when we gave up at the end of the season
Need a part 2 of this please, as a Jets fan I want this to end already lol
I totally agree.
2:54 - My mind jumps to the fall of 2004 when Vince Carter wanted the Raptors to trade him, during a game against Seattle he (allegedly) went over to the SuperSonics bench during a late-game timeout and _told them what play his Raptors were running._ That's not just no effort, that's straight up sabotaging your own team so they'll trade you.
History's first Steve's dang it without any hockey
looks like james neal in a flames jersey
Do you really want a guy like this on your team? Habs already gave their Drouin, who despite oodles of skill goes between pee-wee to NHL level effort game to game
Facts
would fit on the coyotes with the low amount of effort lmao
Randy Moss, (NFL) Vikings and probably the Raiders too. He would just stand at the line of scrimmage and pretty much signal to everyone that the play was not coming his way.
Neil O’Donnell Super Bowl 30 is some piss poor effort
He didn't bring his Refs that was in the 2002 Browns wildcard game
He put in less effort on that shift than I do after I put in my 2 week notice.
Columbus doesn’t need him to be a playoff team.
Damn right.
Speaking as a Lightning fan, I’m glad he decided to hot dog it out there, but he’s hurting his trade value by showing that if he doesn’t get what he wants, he’s going to give minimal effort
Dang it number 1, the camera focus in the opening shot lol.
Albert Haynesworth with the Washington whatever-they-are-called.
Mr. NBA fan...the answer to your question is an NBA player....who was doing it IN CANADA!!!... Vince Carter. Nailed it!!!!
PLD is a joke
What insult to the Columbus blue jackets to sign a 10 M contract then ask for a trade. Then ask, I want to go to a big market team (insulting the whole fan base of Columbus Blue Jackets in the process) and then not caring if he plays... he shouldn’t get paid if he doesn’t want to play... how bout that ?
He wanted a big city market.. now he skates for a city the size of Toledo LoL
Dubois looked like the Oilers in their last two games against Montreal. Man, that effort and body language is a real middle finger to fans.
He signed that contract because he had no other options. He was an RFA without arbitration rights. He could have held out for an offer sheet I guess, but with a flat cap, who had money to give him? Plus, with the kind of deal he wanted, it would have taken at minimum 2 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd, possibly 4 #1s, on top of paying him ~$10M per. At that point, it's probably cheaper to trade for him. Also, side note, has anyone actually voluntarily stayed in Columbus ever? Carter: traded, Nash: traded, Saad: traded, Panarin: walks, Duchene: walks, Bobrovsky: walks, and now Dubios demands a trade. As for everyone siting Albert Haynesworth, he didn't stop trying until after he got the HUGE contract he wanted.
His plan worked perfectly
03:16 aged like a fine vine
"probably don't even get a good return for him" this comment aged well
He's not quite there, but PLD is entering Jeff Carter territory, who to this day is known by some as FJC.
Gee I wonder what the F stands for
@@atypicallark9617 Funny
@@atypicallark9617 Should we wake up? 😂
Jay cutler with the dolphins, literally stood up and didn't move for a couple plays 😂
What’s going on in that thumbnail, PLD rolling a J on the bench?
lmao
it was smart to sign a small bridge deal. He knew he could move in a cap tight market and the team getting him would still have him as an RFA. WIN WIN
great trade today. CBJ won imho
I think if this guys ”attitude” is this poor and wants a bigger stage. Trade him to Arizona or Florida. Come on Dubois it’s NHL...
6:19 what's a grocery stick?
I’m pretty sure it’s when u don’t have hands but idk
Laine and Roslovic to CLB for Dubois... Thanks Steve
It looks pretty simple to me, he wants a trade and didn't get one, and now he's "punishing" the jackets by not performing to his standard. Just scratch him and put in Gerbe or someone who wants to be there. As a player, I would be pissed that my teammate is acting like this, so they may be shutting him out as well. Scratch him, make him see as little NHL ice as possible