Alright ladies and Gentlmen this was Nuts What do you think the next game will be ? Do you think Kairi really needs more Traing? Shes gonna start cartwheeling like Aqua LOL Does Aqua even have the Power of Waking ? Also Couldnt kairi Just hold on to Riku and she would have been transported as well since she doesnt have the power of awakening. It works for Donald and Goofy when it comes to Sora Did you Enjoy Melody of Memory ? Follow My Twitter-EdDaWiz :)
The Kairi game is out yet. This is just the setup for the setup for KH4. Remember he said there is at least one more game before KH4. Nomura is true to his words. That means we can count on 2 games minimum. Melody of memories is just the first one.
To enter that world that is on the other side you have to have the power of awaking. Kairi hasn’t earned that power yet. She still needs to complete the mark of masters
Listen to the word of the fairy godmother. With her help she can open a path to her world. You can use the POWER OF AWAKING to enter it. Who do we know that could have the POWER OF AWAKING. Sora? He did have but not anymore? Kairi? Nope she hasn’t face her darkness yet. Any one that says that she is a princess of heart and can’t have darkness is full of prime grade AAA boloney! EVERYONE HAS DARKNESS WITHIN THEM. Vanity, pride, selfishness, doubt, fear, anger, jealousy, hate. I don’t think Sora truly had it. Riku was the only one to overcome his darkness. That means that KAIRI doesn’t have the required power to help
Xehanort: Time to end this! (Strikes Kairi) Kairi: Ah! 😣 Sora inside Kairi: Kairi!!! Sora as Kairi:(Blocks Xehanort) There's no way! You're killing Kairi again!!!
I have a theory about the Fairy Godmother, the extent of her power applies to any heart (or entity) who is able to dream, the dreams are her speciality, that's how she knows about someone else, and how she can travel to any place, wherever there's a dreamer, she can be there, or at least wherever on her reality, _the other side_ voices don't reach this reality after all.
Honestly, I find that they had Sora literally replacing Kairi absolutely disgusting. If they wanted to show the connection between Sora and Kairi and that Kairi gets her strengh from Sora, they could of had an apperation appear behind her like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in KH re-mind DLC, but no, they literally robbed Kairi of a chance to develop as a charicter and face her feara head on And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort alone. In my scenario she is still relying on support from Sora, just in a much less disrespectful manner,
@@hyperfairy7779 Yeah ikr I was hoping for Kairi to face off Sora which would've made it so much better but nooo they replaced Kairi with Sora and made him fight Xehanort for no reason
Some clarification here. Nomura doesn't consider Melody of Memory to even BE her own game, as she's not fully playable in the traditional Kingdom Hearts gameplay style; there's plenty of time, and Phase 2 has only just started. She'll get her game soon.
@@EdDaWiz sora got it trough the mark of mastery exam. He just lost access to it because of events that happend at the end of DDD. Ventus even said "you never lost it"
@@EdDaWiz sora and riku have been to multiple worlds gaining experience and knowledge that is needed for fighting. Kairi got a good basic training but before they throw her into the probably most dangerous task ever because they don't know anything about quadratum. It's better that she gains the things she needs while training under Aqua like going to worlds
I love Kingdom Hearts but the high potential of this series not having a conclusive ending scares me. I hate the idea of a never ending story, like every mainline Final Fantasy is a self-contained story people can get in and follow, but Kingdom Hearts is an ongoing story that just keeps throwing new things in a already congested story. When will enough be enough? I don't really see fans be critical of this aspect of the series, and I'm glad Ed has pointed out that there is far too much going on. I'm excited but at the same time when will it end?
Kairi keep getting grabbed and she's sick of it so she definitely needs training. She knows this. Her training was basically rushed and she was thrown into a keyblade war with battle vets.
"Unreality", a "fictional world". In other words, a FANTASY. Reached by Riku from the FINAL world. Also called Quadratum, or SQUARE. "The other side of our world" - Kingdom Hearts has been mostly Disney so far, but it is supposed to be a crossover. :D
Id be down for some square worlds but id imagine it have to be like a dream drop thing maybe kairi with the disney and riku with the sqaure worlds. I cant really see a KH game without disney, but its 2020 so who knows
@@EdDaWiz Nomura has also gone on record multiple times to say Sora, Riku and Kairi are Disney characters he made for the game. The "original characters" is a terminology fans self engineered. I guess as long as Sora is the focus there will always be Disney. I think that's how Nomura feels otherwise he wouldn't keep saying it lol. I do understand what you mean though.
FF crossovers would be a blast. If they were able to collab others to FF14, don't see any reason why KH can't do it either. It's all under Square or I guess, Quadratum now.
@@eugenebarretto5686 but yet she would be as short as me I'm 12 and I was taller than sora and kairi were in kh1 when I played it when I was 10 and they were 14!
I just want to point out what really is frustrating about this ending with Kairi not going with Riku. In KH2, Kairi says in a dialogue box “I’m done with waiting for you and Riku. Next time I’m coming along.” At the very ending Sora and the crew get a letter from Mickey, and with the, in my opinion, great trilogy of KH1, CoM, and KH2 Sora, Riku, and Kairi are finally together, and will now go on adventures together like the friends they were always meant to be, together. Sora looks at the letter excited, Riku smirks and like the cool guy he is is chill, and Kairi is looking at it apprehensively; she’s never done this sorta thing before, but is finally joining whatever the adventure will hold. Before the letter was known years later to be about the BBS trio and leading to dream drop distance, it’s meant to show that they’re going on whatever the adventure is and it’s a good ending to the series. After all this time, they still side line Kairi. I’m not even a big fan of Kairi, but as a whole this series really lost a lot of its themes and good qualities. Regardless of her not having the “Power of Waking” to physically go, it just really ruins any type of theming this series use to have.
thier just stalling at this point their is no reason kairi couldn't have gone with him, whats she gonna do with aqua pop some bubbles and become as Master. She probaly gonna unlock the power of waking just like sora shes just gonna believe and Boom LOL
It's honestly quite disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game! Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. It doesn't help that in KH3, Aqua was made into a near useless punching bag
@@kit76149 so you think Kairi fans wanting her to have a more active role in the series instead of Nomoura making false promises about her is a bad thing then. Ok then. Let's flip the script for a moment then, why do you think it would it be a bad thing for Kairi to be able to train and get strong enough to be by Sora and Riku's sides, something she has wanted to do since KH2, and why is it such a good thing she is always pushed back into the background and not given a chance to develop as a charicter and show her strengh?
@@kit76149 I'm a bit overly pessimistic for sure, but not without reason, and thank you for clarifying your original comment, I never expected this to a Kairi RPG and was expecting a rythem game with light story aspects, and if we got a full Kairi RPG game, I'd buy it and play though it and make a judgement after carefully thinking things thiugh. I'm not a mindless Nomoura hater and will praise him if he earns it, However, at the same time. I will NOT hold back on critisims just because it seems like i'm being overly negative. If we don't raise out critisims and hold him accountable for his bad writing choices, this series is only going to get worse, or at the very least, will not get better. I'm not saying there is a problem with Kairi, ((or any female charicter)) not being a fighter and she definitely has her moments on the side as an effective support charicter and I appreciate the moments where she supports the others, However. What I do have a problem with is her continuously being written and portrayed as wanting to fight and get better every game, but her traning and efforts seemingly amount to nothing as she still ends up being a damsel in distress, despite the build up that's been around since KH2. My issues are not with Kairi, but whoever keeps deciding to make false promises using her. I'm eagerly awaiting a game focused on her and aqua's traning so that I can finally have so faith in Nomura and co to deliver to what they have built up As for KH3 Remind, it's important to note they wouldn't need to fix the story and some aspects of it if they had taken their time with KH3, and it's entirely possible re:mind wouldn't of happened if Fans had stayed silent instead of calling Nomoura out on his poor writing decisions
Even, she's not helping Riku to save Sora at that time. As we see here. Let's ride this out a little longer for Kairi. Her training under Master Aqua will lead her to being a proper and lethal keyblade wielder. Like what happened in KH3. Riku was overwhelmed and Sora came to the rescue to save him and Aqua. This is the same potential as well for Kairi, if things go wrong for Riku attempting to rescue Sora. Nomura is saving some of his best work for his final KH games.
Actually, we do see Old Xehanort in the Organization cloak in the beginning of Birth by Sleep when he drops comatose Ventus on Destiny Islands. Also, Fairy Godmother can read dreams, so she has basically read the Nameless Star's heart.
Im just as mad as you are about Riku telling Kairi to stay. But I guess it's for the best, for her to train under Aqua, plus she might have a better role than Riku in the next game. ( Kairi needs more Screentime!)
Honestly, I find that they had Sora literally replacing Kairi absolutely disgusting. If they wanted to show the connection between Sora and Kairi and that Kairi gets her strengh from Sora, they could of had an apperation appear behind her like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in KH re-mind DLC, but no, they literally robbed Kairi of a chance to develop as a charicter and face her feara head on And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort alone. In my scenario she is still relying on support from Sora, just in a much less disrespectful manner,
she doesn't have the Power of Waking, which Sora and Riku got in DDD. As for how she fares in battle... even though Sora and Riku did learn on the run, back then they pretty much had no choice as when it first happened the only other Keyblade wielder that was around and had more experience than them was King Mickey... , so they were forced to learn on the spot, plus sora and riku were always being saved by Donald goofy and Mickey. Riku was saved by Mickey many times in com. And sora always had Donald and Goody's help and was saved by Mickey too. Plus the level of threat they're facing this time is far greater than before, and she is a trainee with no experience of fighting against the darkness for 9 games. Kairi trained but before the events in the Keyblade Graveyard, she never actually fought even once in a real battle (aside from smacking some Heartless in KH2). And when she does, her first battle is against Xemnas, Xion and Saix. Three opponents that are tough even for Sora. Tbh it's impressive she actually lasted long enough for being her first battles. Kairi feels helpless because even though she spent all that time training, her opponents were too much for her. She wants to help Sora, but she just isn't helpful enough. And that's something she says herself... "I need to keep training". She wants to protect Sora, but how can she when she's... just that much behind? Plus Sora is now in a situation not even Riku is sure he can resolve. So she herself comes to the conclusion that it's just best to sit this one out... Besides how would Sora feel if she died? Again? I believe she also feels responsible for what happened to him, as this happened because she let herself be captured by Xehanort. So... maybe she felt like it wasn't wise to waste her life on something she knows she can't do. Especially when bringing her back was something far from easy.
Wait is melody of memory like KH recoded. Where most of the game has nothing to due with furthering the plot of the series until the very end of the game?
@@kenkaneki9176 really depends on what you prefer... my opinion is Re:coded- a somewhat port of kh 1 for handheld Melody of memory- a calming recap of the story so far
Riku is a prodigy and Sora had Donald and goofy to help him. So yeah Kairi needs training, specially because the next threat its going to be on another level.
Maybe so, but keep in mind she held her own against goat Xhenanort with the 12 keys in Re:mind, yes, she had Sora's help there and he probably did most of the work in that fight, however, that doesn't take away from that fact Kairi was able to hold her own, and put up a solid fight against Xehanort, and he is probably stronger than all the other seekers of darkness that the gaurdians of light fought, So she definitely isn't incapable of holding her own With the new threat being on another level beyond xehanot though, yeah she probably needs training
My theory is that during the game, Kairi will probably have been training under Aqua, but leaves and joins Riku somehow so they can have their game together. And she's make the argument that Riku is a Master and he could train her instead.
HOW COME NO ONE NOTICED THAT RIKU WAS JUST MAKING EXCUSES TO GO ALONE!!!! first of all the fairy godmother said that they need three keys riku's dreams kairi's memories and the nameless stars whatever she's meant to do they need riku's dreams so they can find out what kind of place there going to they needed the nameless star so she can make a path for the cause she's from the other side (I will not waste my time spelling the name of the city its way to long) but just like xehanort said it was kairi who was meant to go there and they just said they needed the power of waking to open the path they never said she needed it to actually go there so riku could have just opened the path for her cause he knows about the whole " if you reach a world of neither light nor darkness but somewhere on the other side your task will be far from easy" or because she's still just a trainee he could have a least gone WITH her not alone plus riku should have just stopped at the point where the fairy godmother and kairi stopped cause unlike kairi who stopped in riku's place she's actually meant to go there unlike him and for crying out loud this is all coming from a 12 year old!!!!! Edit: I don't meant any offense riku fans or riku himself maybe he just wanted to protect her or maybe because she doesn't have that kind of experience but you all know what I mean
Honestly, the whole "I need more training" just feels like an excuse to keep Kairi in the background again. I enjoy the KH series, but I'm not a fan of how they've been treating her character after KH2.
Maybe is for her ti have her own game, and I think a perfect adversary for her would be a dark sora, to strenghen not only her force of strength, but of heart and emotional too
I aggre he's sidelining her but still going" don't worry she's gonna train abd get stronger so she'll be involved later " it's really annoying nomora if you don't actually want to do anything with Kairi fine but just don't lie to me and pretend you are .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 it's honestly quite disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hype up every new release Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game! Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. Doesn't help that Aqua was a punching bag in KH3
@@hyperfairy7779 exactly why should I believe Kairis training is going to make a difference this time when it didn't before? And wht should I believe her training with aqua is going to matter when she waa fodder in kh3 granted everyone was kind of fodder in kh3 except sora and roxas but still , like I said before I'm keeping my eyes open but nomora needs to stop setting up and just do it his words are not enough he needs to prove it otherwise he's lying to the fans to try and prevent another freak out over Kairi
@@thatoneblackdude3333 yep, I totally agree, I was just adding some more points on, another issue It seems that Nomoura cannot write forwards at l, all the twists and turns have come from events in the past: To summarize: "Killed the bad guys of KH 1 and 2? Better Go back in time and make a bigger bad behind everything" "Not enough charicters to fit arbitrary number requirements? We'll Go back in time and clone more Xehanorts and Soras," "Killed the organisation? Let's Go back in time and make them more relevant and revive them" "Killed Xehanort? Let's back in time to make a bigger bad who orchestrated Xehanort orchestrating the entire thing" And not only that, but they threw away several perfect opportunites to actually move forwards with the charicters here and develop their bonds of friendship... I know they said there wouldn't be much story in MoM, but it would of been nIce to have had a cutscene after the recap of each game showing what the chairicters had been up to and how their relationships developed during the year Kairi was asleep, Especially the sea salt and wayfinder trio's who have been seperated apart for so long, I'd of loved to see if they had managed to reconnect and how their friendship developed as they searched for Sora. as well show and expand on their own attempts to find Sora opposed to the fairy god mother just coming in with a Deus ex machina exposition dump at the end about where Sora is and what they need to do. Rendering MDG's trips though the Disney worlds and TVA's trip though the realm of darkness a completly pointless waste of time and sad waste of potental to develop their bonds of friendship and basically kick them out of the plot again...
SE seems to be constantly shoving Kairi into the background untill they know what else they can do with her or something, imo I don't clearly see why she needs more training besides needing some training from a real Keyblade-master like Aqua instead of just a Disney-wizard like Merlin, I kinda still hope that SE knows what they're doing with this. Edit: Also I kinda wished Riku and Kairi got a moment to catch up, they haven't spoken for a year since Kairi had gone to sleep for an entire year, Riku not soon after she woke up went on a new great adventure to find Sora and Kairi is left behind again to 'become stronger' with 'more training'.
It's honestly quite disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game! Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. Doesn't help that Aqua was a punching bag in KH3
And yes, the lack of charicter development across the board for the gaurdians of light is also disgraceful... I know they said there wouldn't be much story in MoM, but it would of been nIce to have had a cutscene after the recap of each game showing what the chairicters had been up to and how their relationships developed during the year Kairi was asleep, Especially the sea salt and wayfinder trio's who have been seperated apart for so long, I'd of loved to see if they had managed to reconnect and how their friendship developed as they searched for Sora. as well show and expand on their own attempts to find Sora opposed to the fairy god mother just coming in with a Deus ex machina exposition dump at the end about where Sora is and what they need to do. Rendering MDG's trips though the Disney worlds and TVA's trip though the realm of darkness a completly pointless waste of time and sad waste of potental to develop their bonds of friendship and basically kick them out of the plot again...
@@hyperfairy7779 We can only hope for something better in KH4 Edit: Even though I try to not have many expectations, it's what left me with not too much disappointment about MoM.
I just noticed that ever since re:mind Xehanort is a bad guy, but also a good guy that gives cryptic clues on how to solve problems At least that’s my opinion...😐
Well she did put up a solid fight against Xehanort in KH3:Remind, yes she had Sora's help and he probably did most of the work, but that doesn't change the fight that she put up a good fight and hd her own against him when he attacked her in that battle
it's disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game! Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. Doesn't help that Aqua was a punching bag in kH3
Also, Having Sora outright replace Kairi was a disgusting move to make in my opinion, if they wanted to showcase Kairi's connection to Sora and that her strengh comes from Sora, they could of had a Sora apperation appear behind her and assist her just like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in the Re:mind DLC, but no, they Rob Kairi of the chance to face her fears head on and potentally develop by having Sora steal the show. And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort by herself, in my scenario, she would still have the aid of power drawn from Sora, but it would of portrayed it in a much less insulting manner
To be fair she did lose to what is basically an illusion of xehanort who swung his keyblade once and pretty much laid her out. I think it's safe to say she could use more training 🤣🤣🤣
If you think about it from a universal standpoint to that could also mean that The city that is being referred to crawl so be in another universe so a universal theory is not exactly off the table here. Of course I’m speaking of alternate universe Situation :-)
The way I see the final boss is Kairi isn't strong enough to beat Xehanort on her own, she even says herself multiple times she needs to keep training, and the only character we've seen so far to truly beat Xehanort is Sora, I dont think Terra counts because Xehanort wanted him to defeat him so he could take his body. With all that being said, Kairi wouldn't stand a chance 1 on 1 with Xehanort, so she had to call on Sora's power to help her.
Agreed, but Honestly, I find that they had Sora literally replacing Kairi absolutely disgusting. If they wanted to show the connection between Sora and Kairi and that Kairi gets her strengh from Sora, they could of had an apperation of Sora appear behind her like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in KH re-mind DLC, but no, they literally robbed Kairi of a chance to develop as a charicter and face her feara head on And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort alone. In my scenario she is still relying on support from Sora, just in a much less disrespectful manner,
I think the other side of our reality might be our world or the world of Venum Rex. Also, a Moana world could be a excellent idea, especially, since The Heart of Te Fiti could play a great role in future installments.
The reason they were able to get there while they were both awake is because the fairy godmother can go there considering that dreams are her specialty so the fairy godmother transfer the three of them there and that’s why they were able to get there no problem is because of her.
My predictions: We’re gonna get three or four spin-off games going forward: A) Riku looking for Sora. I think he’s gonna get an idea of how to get him back but then he’ll be attacked and overwhelmed by something or someone in Yozoras world. He’ll come back bloodied and battered with the necessary revelations to advance the plot and while he recovers the other two spin-offs take place. B) Aqua and Kairi training. There’s still plenty of relatively easy to handle patches of darkness left behind. Kairi and Aqua can play clean up and have plenty of great character moments. Kairi can be greatly evolved and progressed as a fighter even more and even possibly get a new outfit going into KH4. C) The least likely to happen, but I really want it to. Mickey. Scala Ad Caelum. The Fortellers. It’s literally setting up a “Jiraiya searching for Pain” type deal. Right as Mickey finds the info he needs the Fortellers are gonna show up and utterly destroy him. Before being defeated/killed/sealed/etc. he’s gonna scribble something down and give it to Pluto and then send him away with a star shard or somethin. Badass and tragic. D) Verum Rex. Speaks for itself.
My thought on each of these A):, I want it but fear we could end up playing as Sora while Riku bumbles around in cutscenes until Sora saves them both B:) this needs to happen A.S.A.P C:) sounds neat o D): sure, but don't destroy the KH franchise in the process with Vs 13 2.0
So, this unreality...what kinds of worlds do you think we'll see there? Game Central Station, perhaps? I feel like Hundred-Acre Wood might also have links to it - it IS a world inside of a storybook, after all.
It would make sense to finally go to Final Fantasy worlds in Riku's game. Think about it, we have been going to disney worlds and encountering Final Fantasy characters whose worlds fell to darkness, but even after restoring them in KH1 we never go to them and the characters don't return to their worlds. Were their hearts strong enough to carry them from the "Square Realm" to the "Disney Realm" passing through the final world as a way station and all were settled in Radiant Garden first then to Traverse Town when RG fell to darkness. One other thing i want to bring up is the names of the worlds: Radiant garden, Twilight Town, and Land of Departure; These worlds must have been created by the Dandelions that were able to escape the Keyblade War because of clues from the structures. Twilight Town has the mansion and we have noticed icons of the foretellers on pillars in the courtyard, twilight is also a word that signifies beginnings and endings. Radiant Garden , the castle in the center and the construction of the town is very similar in structure to Daybreak Town (daybreak also means twilight). Finally is Land of Departure, where Aqua, Ven, and Terra were trained. The structuring of LoD is also similar but more reminiscent of Scala ad Caelum. We learned that Scala is where worlds are formed and Keyblade Wielders were trained there so this could be another world that was created by the Dandelions or it already existed and they found themselves there.....
I somehow knew it the whole time that she was going to be some sort of pond that started practically all of us in the first place against her own well! So by her saying she doesn’t remember like she did in kingdom hearts one she either got her memories of race or she could be like me blocking a whole mess of trauma out of her life only to have it come back in the end!
I don’t think Sora lost his powers rather he’s stuck on the other side and unlike Riku he doesn’t know of a gateway back to his world Luxord is implied to have given Sora the means to return.
Also regarding the sora riku thing- sora had ven and learned along thatnks to his heart, riku had xehanorts heart in him in 1 and learned from him. Kairi is also a princess of heart which means she needs to be 1000% certain of her abilities due to hiw valuable she is.
The only ones with any formal training as Keyblade warriors in general are Terra, Aqua, Ven and Mickey. Everyone else, except Kairi hasn't had any formal training till way later after they already have battle field experience. Roxas got his keyblade simply by being connected to Sora and he picked a keyblade up and had us fighting giant nobodies. I expected this game to be like this due to the way it was advertised, once Kairi comes back I hope she is stronger like she wants, and hopefully playable again due to them giving her such a unique moveset.
Indeed so Having Sora outright replace Kairi was a disgusting move to make in my opinion, if they wanted to showcase Kairi's connection to Sora and that her strengh comes from Sora, they could of had a Sora apperation appear behind her and assist her just like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in the Re:mind DLC, but no, they Rob Kairi of the chance to face her fears head on and potentally develop by having Sora steal the show. And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort by herself, in my scenario, she would still have the aid of power drawn from Sora, but it would of portrayed it in a much less insulting manner
I find it interesting how when Kairi was fighting Xehanort at first he had the black coat I only remember him wearing that in BBS at the beginning of Vens story then he switches to himself without the black coat I wonder if they were trying to give us a clue as to when Xehanort had the knowledge he was giving Kairi
I reckon Fairy God Mother can come here so easily the same way Merlin can time travel: her canon power is related to dreams, and Chirithy said death and sleep are so close they sometimes cross over.
I really like the scene with Kairi and the memory Xehanort. Kairi's moves were really cool. I don't care if she stayed behind to train with Aqua, because I have a very strong feeling that she'll join Riku before he even gets close to finding Sora. As Apprentice Xehanort said, that task is far from easy. Also, Xehanort seemed like he was just toying with Kairi, just so they could bring the clue out into the open. Once he gets that confirmation, he is free to relay the clue to Kairi, so that she can find Sora. Xehanort had literally nothing to lose, so he may as well have left Kairi with a parting gift, since she was not there to witness his surrender. He's been dead for a year, and he still plans for every eventuality.
Kairi technically faught and beaten xehanort its just for some reason she transformed into Sora and we had to play as him instead. Which is stupid in my opinion.
Here are my thoughts, but be warned they are pretty vicious as this game angered me with it's story, more than KH3 even, and it covers my thoughts on what happened to Kairi My overall thoughts: I'm glad I brought MoM for the music and not the story, because what little there is is absolutely atroticus and highlights the series's biggest problems in a glaring way, the Kairi shading from Nomoura and the fact Nomoura seemingly just cannot write forwards, at all and develop the personalities of the charicters further, and this enraged me more than the mess that was KH3, Kairi's treatment is once again disgusting, as while it's true this isn't a Kairi Game, she still gets shafted really hard here, bot only does she lose to Xehanort in the cutscene ((understandable to a degree, and she put up a great fight)) but she is LITERALLY replaced with Sora as she gets up for the final battle and you play the final battle as Sora, robbing Kairi of the chance to show her strengh and face her fears. They didn't need to have Sora outright replace Her, they could of just had an apperation of him materialize behind her, just like he did when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in RE:mind, doesn't help that KH3 turned Aqua into a punching bag and forced her to rely on Sora, I get that Sora is the main charicter, but come on, let the other charicters do something, especially Kairi. And I don't see much point in Kairi traning with Aqua, all the other promises of Kairi becoming stronger and helping have been nothing more than bait to entice us to buy the next game. She was put in the equivilant of the hyperbolic time chamber, and still came out almost useless, I don't see how traning with Aqua is going to help her. And while this has been the case since the end of KH2, the fact Nomoura and co. Did effectively nothing with the charicters during the year they were searching for Sora kinda shows he cannot write forwards at all or develop the charicters or for some reason, doesn't want to, he only goes Backwards for the sake of twists and mysteries. As someone else said: "Killed the bad guys of KH 1 and 2? Better Go back in time and make a bigger bad behind everything" "Not enough charicters to fit arbitrary number requirements? We'll Go back in time and clone more Xehanorts and Soras," "Killed the organisation? Let's Go back in time and make them more relevant and revive them" "Killed Xehanort? Let's back in time to make a bigger bad who orchestrated Xehanort orchestrating the entire thing" And not only that, but they threw away several perfect opportunites to actually move forwards with the charicters here and develop their bonds of friendship... I know they said there wouldn't be much story in MoM, but it would of been nIce to have had a cutscene after the recap of each game showing what the chairicters had been up to and how their relationships developed during the year Kairi was asleep, Especially the sea salt and wayfinder trio's who have been seperated apart for so long, I'd of loved to see if they had managed to reconnect and how their friendship developed as they searched for Sora. as well show and expand on their own attempts to find Sora opposed to the fairy god mother just coming in with a Deus ex machina exposition dump at the end about where Sora is and what they need to do. Rendering MDG's trips though the Disney worlds and TVA's trip though the realm of darkness a completly pointless waste of time and sad waste of potental to develop their bonds of friendship and basically kick them out of the plot again... Shafting of Kairi and most of thr other gaurdians of lights, Nomoura's wasting opportunities to do charicter development by moving things forward via deus ex machina, promising Kairi will be stronger for the next gane.. all we need is a vauge and unexplained concept used for sequal bait and then that's everything wrong with the writing and series story together in one package in my opinion ((and we kinda have that with the whole unreality thing, how many alternate plains of existance do we need? We have light, dark, in between, nothingness, data, dream, unchained, sleeping and now fiction/ unreality)) The team should of put more effort into KH3 and ending the series there with MoM acting as a musical journey to round of the series, they should of just dropped the the fortellers, book of prophecies and MoM and kept them relevant to union X and dark road only. And instead just moved on to the FF Vs 13 2.0 they seem to desperately want to make instead instead of trying to turn kingdom hearts into Vs 13 2.0 And I want to add it's disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game! Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something.
Riku never needed training because his fighting prowess was known while controlled by Ansem as well as working with DiZ and Mickey while Sora DID get trained by both Leon on the basics and Yen Sid.
WHY IS SHE NOT CONSIDERED STRONG ENOUGH WHEN SHE LEARNED TO GLIDE SO SOON??!!! AND SHE CAN DO THE SAME INFINITE GLIDE LIKE SORA AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT TAKES FOREVER TO LEARN HOW TO GLIDE IN KH(EXCEPT KH3 IM NOT SURE)
Here are my thoughts, but be warned they are pretty vicious as this game angered me with it's story, more than KH3 even My overall thoughts: I'm glad I brought MoM for the music and not the story, because what little there is is absolutely atroticus and highlights the series's biggest problems in a glaring way, the Kairi shading from Nomoura and the fact Nomoura seemingly just cannot write forwards, at all and develop the personalities of the charicters further, and this enraged me more than the mess that was KH3, Kairi's treatment is once again disgusting, as while it's true this isn't a Kairi Game, she still gets shafted really hard here, bot only does she lose to Xehanort in the cutscene ((understandable to a degree, and she put up a great fight)) but she is LITERALLY replaced with Sora as she gets up for the final battle and you play the final battle as Sora, robbing Kairi of the chance to show her strengh and face her fears. They didn't need to have Sora outright replace Her, they could of just had an apperation of him materialize behind her, just like he did when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in RE:mind, doesn't help that KH3 turned Aqua into a punching bag and forced her to rely on Sora, I get that Sora is the main charicter, but come on, let the other charicters do something, especially Kairi. And I don't see much point in Kairi traning with Aqua, all the other promises of Kairi becoming stronger and helping have been nothing more than bait to entice us to buy the next game. She was put in the equivilant of the hyperbolic time chamber, and still came out almost useless, I don't see how traning with Aqua is going to help her. And while this has been the case since the end of KH2, the fact Nomoura and co. Did effectively nothing with the charicters during the year they were searching for Sora kinda shows he cannot write forwards at all or develop the charicters or for some reason, doesn't want to, he only goes Backwards for the sake of twists and mysteries. As someone else said: "Killed the bad guys of KH 1 and 2? Better Go back in time and make a bigger bad behind everything" "Not enough charicters to fit arbitrary number requirements? We'll Go back in time and clone more Xehanorts and Soras," "Killed the organisation? Let's Go back in time and make them more relevant and revive them" "Killed Xehanort? Let's back in time to make a bigger bad who orchestrated Xehanort orchestrating the entire thing" And not only that, but they threw away several perfect opportunites to actually move forwards with the charicters here and develop their bonds of friendship... I know they said there wouldn't be much story in MoM, but it would of been nIce to have had a cutscene after the recap of each game showing what the chairicters had been up to and how their relationships developed during the year Kairi was asleep, Especially the sea salt and wayfinder trio's who have been seperated apart for so long, I'd of loved to see if they had managed to reconnect and how their friendship developed as they searched for Sora. as well show and expand on their own attempts to find Sora opposed to the fairy god mother just coming in with a Deus ex machina exposition dump at the end about where Sora is and what they need to do. Rendering MDG's trips though the Disney worlds and TVA's trip though the realm of darkness a completly pointless waste of time and sad waste of potental to develop their bonds of friendship and basically kick them out of the plot again... Shafting of Kairi and most of thr other gaurdians of lights, Nomoura's wasting opportunities to do charicter development by moving things forward via deus ex machina, promising Kairi will be stronger for the next gane.. all we need is a vauge and unexplained concept used for sequal bait and then that's everything wrong with the writing and series story together in one package in my opinion ((and we kinda have that with the whole unreality thing, how many alternate plains of existance do we need? We have light, dark, in between, nothingness, data, dream, unchained, sleeping and now fiction/ unreality)) The team should of put more effort into KH3 and ending the series there with MoM acting as a musical journey to round of the series, they should of just dropped the the fortellers, book of prophecies and MoM and kept them relevant to union X and dark road only. And instead just moved on to the FF Vs 13 2.0 they seem to desperately want to make instead instead of trying to turn kingdom hearts into Vs 13 2.0 And I want to add it's disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game! Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something.
I feel we could be getting 3 games in the future like one focuses on Riku in the realm of fiction, one tha focuses on Mickey in Scala Ad Caelum and one that focuses on Kairi's training with Aqua or we could get one big game combining all these things together
I have a feeling that the next game after this is Kh4 and just like how we first start with roxas in kh2 then Sora I think we will play as riku and then we play as sora in Kh4
it's disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game! Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game! Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. Doesn't help that Aqua was a punching bag in kH3
dude, for the sence of the power Scale would have make no sence she defeats him, she is still in Training and actually did a very good job. I kinda see a bit like, is her mind so she imagines herself as Sora, as encouragement. She was fighting him but turn into Sora so give herself courage. But yeah, I would have like i dont know that she fights with both blades hers and Sora's, but i am actually okay with what we got, she proves have been pretty strong in a short time, after all she just got trained and directly got into a fight with actually keyblade masters and the organization. Curioud too see how she will be after training with Aqua.
Do you know this whole PTSD thing I actually was diagnosed with it earlier this year I always knew that I had it though from the time I was born all the way up to now and even up to still within my future, but nobody would listen to me until now but I am about to be 27 years old. They said that PTSD was just for war veterans a lot of people laughed at me but no someone finally get it too bad it’s almost 27 years too late wait! And it’s even getting worse I’m on a treatment for it but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still there, unfortunately I may be stuck with it for the rest of my life but even if I am, I’ve been through a lot worse and I am not gonna let anything stop me or get me down for that matter! People can try but ultimately no easily fail! In fact you know me, many people have tried and you also know about what happened to me when I first joined TH-cam in the first place let’s just say I’ve suffered at least six forms of abuse, physical, emotional, psychological, cyber, mental and also moral abuse is well. I know some people don’t think that morality can be abused but trust me when you were in my position be prepared to suffer a lot more than any kid should ever have had to of gone through! But I’m not saying it’s OK however I have been made into a stronger person for it so I guess that’s the bright side of it other than that I can’t really think of any other bright sides to being abused as bad as I have!
No it's most definitely the ancient keyblade Masters that he's talking about the ones who wear the cloaks and masks but what they don't know is luxu brought them back already that he's planning something in this reality why the Masters would Sora planning is in game in this unknown reality where Riku is headed
Kairi needs the most training out of everyone. She went to learn to summon and literally learn to keep the keyblade from dematerializing with lea. She didnt do any combat training with anyone who is a master or even well versed in being a weilder. It makes sense people for some reason just expected her to be on par with like ven sora and riku without acting training like they had
Alright ladies and Gentlmen this was Nuts
What do you think the next game will be ?
Do you think Kairi really needs more Traing? Shes gonna start cartwheeling like Aqua LOL
Does Aqua even have the Power of Waking ?
Also Couldnt kairi Just hold on to Riku and she would have been transported as well since she doesnt have the power of awakening. It works for Donald and Goofy when it comes to Sora
Did you Enjoy Melody of Memory ?
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The Kairi game is out yet. This is just the setup for the setup for KH4. Remember he said there is at least one more game before KH4.
Nomura is true to his words. That means we can count on 2 games minimum. Melody of memories is just the first one.
To enter that world that is on the other side you have to have the power of awaking. Kairi hasn’t earned that power yet. She still needs to complete the mark of masters
Listen to the word of the fairy godmother.
With her help she can open a path to her world. You can use the POWER OF AWAKING to enter it.
Who do we know that could have the POWER OF AWAKING.
Sora? He did have but not anymore?
Kairi? Nope she hasn’t face her darkness yet. Any one that says that she is a princess of heart and can’t have darkness is full of prime grade AAA boloney! EVERYONE HAS DARKNESS WITHIN THEM.
Vanity, pride, selfishness, doubt, fear, anger, jealousy, hate. I don’t think Sora truly had it. Riku was the only one to overcome his darkness. That means that KAIRI doesn’t have the required power to help
@@eddog6666 Couldnt kairi just hold onto riku and she would have went with him. It seems to work for goofy and donald when they hold onto sora
@@EdDaWiz I want you to remember that Sora used his power of waking twice without donald and goofy. So it makes sense😅
*Aqua gets trapped in the darkness*
Mickey: “She made her own choice.”
*Riku goes to a fictional world*
Mickey: “MY BABY BOY!!!”
Like literally Mikey said “I HAVE TO SAVE MY CHILD!!!” 😂
Well in Mickey's defense, Yen Sid made him swear not to go after her.
Riku spent a year with Mickey after Re:chain of memories, they have stronger bond.
I think he just learned his Lesson! 😂
Mickey: I failed Aqua before... I won't Fail for Riku this Time! 😠
Mickey just wants to be with Riku so he can be playable LOL
Aqua: Kairi, time for your Mark of Mastery.
Kairi: I'm so nervous.
Aqua: HIT BALL TO PASS TEST.
Ghost Sora: ARE U KIDDING ME?!?
OMG LOL stop. sorry riku i couldnt go with you i have to pop some bubbles first
Kingdom Hearts 1: “ Kairi’s inside of me?!”
Melody of Memory: How the tables have turned.
LOL and neither of them asked permission
Xehanort: Time to end this! (Strikes Kairi)
Kairi: Ah! 😣
Sora inside Kairi: Kairi!!!
Sora as Kairi:(Blocks Xehanort) There's no way! You're killing Kairi again!!!
@@EdDaWiz i think those two are way past asking permission Ed
I have a theory about the Fairy Godmother, the extent of her power applies to any heart (or entity) who is able to dream, the dreams are her speciality, that's how she knows about someone else, and how she can travel to any place, wherever there's a dreamer, she can be there, or at least wherever on her reality, _the other side_ voices don't reach this reality after all.
When Nomura is so desperate for Sora that he made Sora fight the boss instead of Kairi😭
He really do be trolling when it comes to kairi moments
Honestly, I find that they had Sora literally replacing Kairi absolutely disgusting. If they wanted to show the connection between Sora and Kairi and that Kairi gets her strengh from Sora, they could of had an apperation appear behind her like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in KH re-mind DLC, but no, they literally robbed Kairi of a chance to develop as a charicter and face her feara head on
And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort alone. In my scenario she is still relying on support from Sora, just in a much less disrespectful manner,
@@hyperfairy7779 Yeah ikr I was hoping for Kairi to face off Sora which would've made it so much better but nooo they replaced Kairi with Sora and made him fight Xehanort for no reason
Kairi herself should be the main superhero.
Some clarification here.
Nomura doesn't consider Melody of Memory to even BE her own game, as she's not fully playable in the traditional Kingdom Hearts gameplay style; there's plenty of time, and Phase 2 has only just started.
She'll get her game soon.
yeah plus shes one of the keys
Kairi couldn't go with Riku. She doesn't have the power of waking.
all she gotta do is believe like how sora got his lol
@@EdDaWiz sora got it trough the mark of mastery exam. He just lost access to it because of events that happend at the end of DDD. Ventus even said "you never lost it"
Also couldnt Kairi just hold on to riku and she would have teleported with him, like how donald and goofy do when they are with sora ?
@@EdDaWiz sora and riku have been to multiple worlds gaining experience and knowledge that is needed for fighting. Kairi got a good basic training but before they throw her into the probably most dangerous task ever because they don't know anything about quadratum. It's better that she gains the things she needs while training under Aqua like going to worlds
@@KiyotakaVAL they did kairi dirty in KH3 by putting her in a War with all the Boss Fights from previous games lol. No wonder she wants to train
Oh my God you took the exact words out of my mouth bro! “ how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?! “
Ed, Yen Sid and Merlin just suck at teaching younger teens. Aqua can be a better master for Kairi
Lets hope so, kairi better to be doing cartwheels like aqua
Yeah remember Merlin's training is using pots😅🤦♂️
I love Kingdom Hearts but the high potential of this series not having a conclusive ending scares me. I hate the idea of a never ending story, like every mainline Final Fantasy is a self-contained story people can get in and follow, but Kingdom Hearts is an ongoing story that just keeps throwing new things in a already congested story.
When will enough be enough? I don't really see fans be critical of this aspect of the series, and I'm glad Ed has pointed out that there is far too much going on.
I'm excited but at the same time when will it end?
Its Exciting and Scary for Sure . Im just hoping ill live Long enough to See It LOL
Yeah, me too.
Kairi keep getting grabbed and she's sick of it so she definitely needs training. She knows this. Her training was basically rushed and she was thrown into a keyblade war with battle vets.
Thank you. I think most people forget about this
vets lol they all got their ass beat
@@FNSSEIOS I was talking about heroes and villains both. Bottomline everyone else had more experience in battle than kairi
@@terrancewalch1087 I know lol I’m just poking fun at the word vets bc they were struggling very hard 😂
@@FNSSEIOS you're right. Everyone but sora is useless. Since he fought in literally every battle
"Unreality", a "fictional world". In other words, a FANTASY. Reached by Riku from the FINAL world. Also called Quadratum, or SQUARE. "The other side of our world" - Kingdom Hearts has been mostly Disney so far, but it is supposed to be a crossover. :D
Id be down for some square worlds but id imagine it have to be like a dream drop thing maybe kairi with the disney and riku with the sqaure worlds. I cant really see a KH game without disney, but its 2020 so who knows
@@EdDaWiz Nomura has also gone on record multiple times to say Sora, Riku and Kairi are Disney characters he made for the game. The "original characters" is a terminology fans self engineered.
I guess as long as Sora is the focus there will always be Disney. I think that's how Nomura feels otherwise he wouldn't keep saying it lol.
I do understand what you mean though.
@@EdDaWiz A multi-story game among several characters or several games for separate players?
@@dxg5659 or something like ffxv dlcs, episode sora, episode kairi and episode riku
FF crossovers would be a blast. If they were able to collab others to FF14, don't see any reason why KH can't do it either. It's all under Square or I guess, Quadratum now.
Wiz, I think it’s best that Kairi should get some training. Trust me, it’s gonna be all worth it at the end!
im sure it will but the question is will i live long enough to see it lol
We've had NINETEEN YEARS of waiting for Kairi to have enough training.
She should be like 33 yrs old by now too
@@eugenebarretto5686 but yet she would be as short as me I'm 12 and I was taller than sora and kairi were in kh1 when I played it when I was 10 and they were 14!
@@amiksa8789 yea they should've made the timeline like it is in the real world
I would love for while Kairi trains with Aqua that Terra and Ven help her out too, I just love them uwu
Some kairi and Aqua link attacks would be dope
@@EdDaWiz Indeed
Nobody:
Literally nobody
The kingdom hearts timeline: ENDLESS
they need to understand i aint gettin any younger lol
You thought it was MoM but it was really me Kono Xehanort da 🤣🤣
if he comes back im shaving my head lol
@@EdDaWiz 🤣🤣
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN!!!?!?!
I just want to point out what really is frustrating about this ending with Kairi not going with Riku. In KH2, Kairi says in a dialogue box “I’m done with waiting for you and Riku. Next time I’m coming along.” At the very ending Sora and the crew get a letter from Mickey, and with the, in my opinion, great trilogy of KH1, CoM, and KH2 Sora, Riku, and Kairi are finally together, and will now go on adventures together like the friends they were always meant to be, together. Sora looks at the letter excited, Riku smirks and like the cool guy he is is chill, and Kairi is looking at it apprehensively; she’s never done this sorta thing before, but is finally joining whatever the adventure will hold. Before the letter was known years later to be about the BBS trio and leading to dream drop distance, it’s meant to show that they’re going on whatever the adventure is and it’s a good ending to the series. After all this time, they still side line Kairi. I’m not even a big fan of Kairi, but as a whole this series really lost a lot of its themes and good qualities. Regardless of her not having the “Power of Waking” to physically go, it just really ruins any type of theming this series use to have.
thier just stalling at this point their is no reason kairi couldn't have gone with him, whats she gonna do with aqua pop some bubbles and become as Master. She probaly gonna unlock the power of waking just like sora shes just gonna believe and Boom LOL
@@EdDaWiz Nono. Aqua is gonna teach Kairi the ultimate power: cartwheel
It's honestly quite disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release
Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game!
Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. It doesn't help that in KH3, Aqua was made into a near useless punching bag
@@kit76149 so you think Kairi fans wanting her to have a more active role in the series instead of Nomoura making false promises about her is a bad thing then.
Ok then. Let's flip the script for a moment then, why do you think it would it be a bad thing for Kairi to be able to train and get strong enough to be by Sora and Riku's sides, something she has wanted to do since KH2, and why is it such a good thing she is always pushed back into the background and not given a chance to develop as a charicter and show her strengh?
@@kit76149 I'm a bit overly pessimistic for sure, but not without reason, and thank you for clarifying your original comment,
I never expected this to a Kairi RPG and was expecting a rythem game with light story aspects, and if we got a full Kairi RPG game, I'd buy it and play though it and make a judgement after carefully thinking things thiugh. I'm not a mindless Nomoura hater and will praise him if he earns it, However, at the same time. I will NOT hold back on critisims just because it seems like i'm being overly negative. If we don't raise out critisims and hold him accountable for his bad writing choices, this series is only going to get worse, or at the very least, will not get better.
I'm not saying there is a problem with Kairi, ((or any female charicter)) not being a fighter and she definitely has her moments on the side as an effective support charicter and I appreciate the moments where she supports the others, However. What I do have a problem with is her continuously being written and portrayed as wanting to fight and get better every game, but her traning and efforts seemingly amount to nothing as she still ends up being a damsel in distress, despite the build up that's been around since KH2.
My issues are not with Kairi, but whoever keeps deciding to make false promises using her. I'm eagerly awaiting a game focused on her and aqua's traning so that I can finally have so faith in Nomura and co to deliver to what they have built up
As for KH3 Remind, it's important to note they wouldn't need to fix the story and some aspects of it if they had taken their time with KH3, and it's entirely possible re:mind wouldn't of happened if Fans had stayed silent instead of calling Nomoura out on his poor writing decisions
Even, she's not helping Riku to save Sora at that time. As we see here. Let's ride this out a little longer for Kairi.
Her training under Master Aqua will lead her to being a proper and lethal keyblade wielder.
Like what happened in KH3. Riku was overwhelmed and Sora came to the rescue to save him and Aqua. This is the same potential as well for Kairi, if things go wrong for Riku attempting to rescue Sora.
Nomura is saving some of his best work for his final KH games.
Kairi havinbg to save both Riku & Kairi Okay i kinda like that, Kairi is gonna Start doing Cart wheels after training with Aqua LOL
Actually, we do see Old Xehanort in the Organization cloak in the beginning of Birth by Sleep when he drops comatose Ventus on Destiny Islands. Also, Fairy Godmother can read dreams, so she has basically read the Nameless Star's heart.
Im just as mad as you are about Riku telling Kairi to stay. But I guess it's for the best, for her to train under Aqua, plus she might have a better role than Riku in the next game.
( Kairi needs more Screentime!)
Kairi is gonna start doing cartwheels after training with aqua lol
@@EdDaWiz Yes!!!!!! That would be Epic!!!!!
I wonder how Kairi felt that she couldn't even beat the final boss in her own game?
she gonna be only a party member next game watch lol
@@EdDaWiz Bet, I'll be waiting lol
Honestly, I find that they had Sora literally replacing Kairi absolutely disgusting. If they wanted to show the connection between Sora and Kairi and that Kairi gets her strengh from Sora, they could of had an apperation appear behind her like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in KH re-mind DLC, but no, they literally robbed Kairi of a chance to develop as a charicter and face her feara head on
And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort alone. In my scenario she is still relying on support from Sora, just in a much less disrespectful manner,
she doesn't have the Power of Waking, which Sora and Riku got in DDD.
As for how she fares in battle... even though Sora and Riku did learn on the run, back then they pretty much had no choice as when it first happened the only other Keyblade wielder that was around and had more experience than them was King Mickey... , so they were forced to learn on the spot, plus sora and riku were always being saved by Donald goofy and Mickey.
Riku was saved by Mickey many times in com.
And sora always had Donald and Goody's help and was saved by Mickey too.
Plus the level of threat they're facing this time is far greater than before, and she is a trainee with no experience of fighting against the darkness for 9 games.
Kairi trained but before the events in the Keyblade Graveyard, she never actually fought even once in a real battle (aside from smacking some Heartless in KH2).
And when she does, her first battle is against Xemnas, Xion and Saix. Three opponents that are tough even for Sora.
Tbh it's impressive she actually lasted long enough for being her first battles.
Kairi feels helpless because even though she spent all that time training, her opponents were too much for her.
She wants to help Sora, but she just isn't helpful enough. And that's something she says herself... "I need to keep training".
She wants to protect Sora, but how can she when she's... just that much behind?
Plus Sora is now in a situation not even Riku is sure he can resolve.
So she herself comes to the conclusion that it's just best to sit this one out...
Besides how would Sora feel if she died? Again?
I believe she also feels responsible for what happened to him, as this happened because she let herself be captured by Xehanort.
So... maybe she felt like it wasn't wise to waste her life on something she knows she can't do. Especially when bringing her back was something far from easy.
But didn't Sora already lost his after 3?
@@lunathepurpledragon5843 lost what?
@@ZZAFRETZZ the power of waking when he revived, Kairi, he lost the power of waking as a price as well as his life
@@lunathepurpledragon5843 yeah he did
Wait is melody of memory like KH recoded. Where most of the game has nothing to due with furthering the plot of the series until the very end of the game?
Yeah, but this is actually more fun than re:coded.
@@kenkaneki9176 really depends on what you prefer... my opinion is
Re:coded- a somewhat port of kh 1 for handheld
Melody of memory- a calming recap of the story so far
Pretty much yes. Both games don't have much important plot but are fun to play.
Yes and it was well done
Lmao we all got baited hard with that guy in the hood
I would have been to good to be the MOM i knew they were playing
To be fair, you could guess it was OldNort by the fact that the cloaked guy had the Oldnort pose with curved back and hands behind.
So I think the idea is a story the revolves in 2 halves kairi and Aqua go exploring Disney worlds and Riku will be exploring Square enix world's
Final Fantasy versus XIII "A fantasy based on reality"
Now it all makes sense!
Riku is a prodigy and Sora had Donald and goofy to help him. So yeah Kairi needs training, specially because the next threat its going to be on another level.
Maybe so, but keep in mind she held her own against goat Xhenanort with the 12 keys in Re:mind, yes, she had Sora's help there and he probably did most of the work in that fight, however, that doesn't take away from that fact Kairi was able to hold her own, and put up a solid fight against Xehanort, and he is probably stronger than all the other seekers of darkness that the gaurdians of light fought, So she definitely isn't incapable of holding her own
With the new threat being on another level beyond xehanot though, yeah she probably needs training
Imagine bringing Xehanort back in the next game!
hes under the disney contract im sure he will be back lol
HELL YES PLEASE
Don't give Square ideas!
@@kayleighdriessen you mean "QUADRATUM"
Xehanort Comes Back: Us *How Many Times Do We Have To Teach You This Lesson OLD MAN*
5:40 We play in Kairi’s mind. How did she know the MoM ? It’s impossible.
"Kairi's Game" yeah
in the next 10 years as DLC LOL
My theory is that during the game, Kairi will probably have been training under Aqua, but leaves and joins Riku somehow so they can have their game together. And she's make the argument that Riku is a Master and he could train her instead.
5:14 When they say it's the end of the Xehanort saga and the next game in the series has Xehanort as the main villain.
HOW COME NO ONE NOTICED THAT RIKU WAS JUST MAKING EXCUSES TO GO ALONE!!!! first of all the fairy godmother said that they need three keys riku's dreams kairi's memories and the nameless stars whatever she's meant to do they need riku's dreams so they can find out what kind of place there going to they needed the nameless star so she can make a path for the cause she's from the other side (I will not waste my time spelling the name of the city its way to long) but just like xehanort said it was kairi who was meant to go there and they just said they needed the power of waking to open the path they never said she needed it to actually go there so riku could have just opened the path for her cause he knows about the whole " if you reach a world of neither light nor darkness but somewhere on the other side your task will be far from easy" or because she's still just a trainee he could have a least gone WITH her not alone plus riku should have just stopped at the point where the fairy godmother and kairi stopped cause unlike kairi who stopped in riku's place she's actually meant to go there unlike him and for crying out loud this is all coming from a 12 year old!!!!!
Edit: I don't meant any offense riku fans or riku himself maybe he just wanted to protect her or maybe because she doesn't have that kind of experience but you all know what I mean
Quadratum = Square.
Yozora's world based on FF Versus XIII.
"A fiction, unreality..." = Final Fantasy
Coincidence? I think not.
Honestly, the whole "I need more training" just feels like an excuse to keep Kairi in the background again. I enjoy the KH series, but I'm not a fan of how they've been treating her character after KH2.
Maybe is for her ti have her own game, and I think a perfect adversary for her would be a dark sora, to strenghen not only her force of strength, but of heart and emotional too
I aggre he's sidelining her but still going" don't worry she's gonna train abd get stronger so she'll be involved later " it's really annoying nomora if you don't actually want to do anything with Kairi fine but just don't lie to me and pretend you are .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 it's honestly quite disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hype up every new release
Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game!
Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. Doesn't help that Aqua was a punching bag in KH3
@@hyperfairy7779 exactly why should I believe Kairis training is going to make a difference this time when it didn't before? And wht should I believe her training with aqua is going to matter when she waa fodder in kh3 granted everyone was kind of fodder in kh3 except sora and roxas but still , like I said before I'm keeping my eyes open but nomora needs to stop setting up and just do it his words are not enough he needs to prove it otherwise he's lying to the fans to try and prevent another freak out over Kairi
@@thatoneblackdude3333 yep, I totally agree, I was just adding some more points on, another issue It seems that Nomoura cannot write forwards at l, all the twists and turns have come from events in the past:
To summarize:
"Killed the bad guys of KH 1 and 2? Better Go back in time and make a bigger bad behind everything"
"Not enough charicters to fit arbitrary number requirements? We'll Go back in time and clone more Xehanorts and Soras,"
"Killed the organisation? Let's Go back in time and make them more relevant and revive them"
"Killed Xehanort? Let's back in time to make a bigger bad who orchestrated Xehanort orchestrating the entire thing"
And not only that, but they threw away several perfect opportunites to actually move forwards with the charicters here and develop their bonds of friendship...
I know they said there wouldn't be much story in MoM, but it would of been nIce to have had a cutscene after the recap of each game showing what the chairicters had been up to and how their relationships developed during the year Kairi was asleep, Especially the sea salt and wayfinder trio's who have been seperated apart for so long, I'd of loved to see if they had managed to reconnect and how their friendship developed as they searched for Sora. as well show and expand on their own attempts to find Sora opposed to the fairy god mother just coming in with a Deus ex machina exposition dump at the end about where Sora is and what they need to do. Rendering MDG's trips though the Disney worlds and TVA's trip though the realm of darkness a completly pointless waste of time and sad waste of potental to develop their bonds of friendship and basically kick them out of the plot again...
SE seems to be constantly shoving Kairi into the background untill they know what else they can do with her or something, imo I don't clearly see why she needs more training besides needing some training from a real Keyblade-master like Aqua instead of just a Disney-wizard like Merlin, I kinda still hope that SE knows what they're doing with this.
Edit: Also I kinda wished Riku and Kairi got a moment to catch up, they haven't spoken for a year since Kairi had gone to sleep for an entire year, Riku not soon after she woke up went on a new great adventure to find Sora and Kairi is left behind again to 'become stronger' with 'more training'.
It's honestly quite disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release
Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game!
Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. Doesn't help that Aqua was a punching bag in KH3
And yes, the lack of charicter development across the board for the gaurdians of light is also disgraceful...
I know they said there wouldn't be much story in MoM, but it would of been nIce to have had a cutscene after the recap of each game showing what the chairicters had been up to and how their relationships developed during the year Kairi was asleep, Especially the sea salt and wayfinder trio's who have been seperated apart for so long, I'd of loved to see if they had managed to reconnect and how their friendship developed as they searched for Sora. as well show and expand on their own attempts to find Sora opposed to the fairy god mother just coming in with a Deus ex machina exposition dump at the end about where Sora is and what they need to do. Rendering MDG's trips though the Disney worlds and TVA's trip though the realm of darkness a completly pointless waste of time and sad waste of potental to develop their bonds of friendship and basically kick them out of the plot again...
@@hyperfairy7779 We can only hope for something better in KH4
Edit: Even though I try to not have many expectations, it's what left me with not too much disappointment about MoM.
Fairy Godmother straight up just sent Riku and Kairi to the afterlife in a matter of seconds😂
I just noticed that ever since re:mind Xehanort is a bad guy, but also a good guy that gives cryptic clues on how to solve problems
At least that’s my opinion...😐
I dunno he has always given clues even before re:mind. But perhaps he became a bit different to us because he is calmer and less dramatic now lol
@@inigoadinatha7897 yep I agree but seriously can i trust him now or not!? Cause it feels like he still wants to kill them
@@marvinlugto7450 Xehanort is gone. He died in Kh3. Tgis one was just a dream of Kairi.
@@soul6733 I mean when he still shows up in future games a a ghost or a dream or whatever
Kari really tried to 1v1 Xehanort lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it wasnt even really him tho she should have been fine :(
@@EdDaWiz Even if it wasn't she still a newborn 🤣🤣🤣
Well she did put up a solid fight against Xehanort in KH3:Remind, yes she had Sora's help and he probably did most of the work, but that doesn't change the fight that she put up a good fight and hd her own against him when he attacked her in that battle
WHY DOESNT SQUARE HAS KAIRI DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN BE DAMSEL IN DISTRESS
it's disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release
Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game!
Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. Doesn't help that Aqua was a punching bag in kH3
Also,
Having Sora outright replace Kairi was a disgusting move to make in my opinion, if they wanted to showcase Kairi's connection to Sora and that her strengh comes from Sora, they could of had a Sora apperation appear behind her and assist her just like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in the Re:mind DLC, but no, they Rob Kairi of the chance to face her fears head on and potentally develop by having Sora steal the show.
And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort by herself, in my scenario, she would still have the aid of power drawn from Sora, but it would of portrayed it in a much less insulting manner
To be fair she did lose to what is basically an illusion of xehanort who swung his keyblade once and pretty much laid her out. I think it's safe to say she could use more training 🤣🤣🤣
If you think about it from a universal standpoint to that could also mean that The city that is being referred to crawl so be in another universe so a universal theory is not exactly off the table here. Of course I’m speaking of alternate universe Situation :-)
The way I see the final boss is Kairi isn't strong enough to beat Xehanort on her own, she even says herself multiple times she needs to keep training, and the only character we've seen so far to truly beat Xehanort is Sora, I dont think Terra counts because Xehanort wanted him to defeat him so he could take his body. With all that being said, Kairi wouldn't stand a chance 1 on 1 with Xehanort, so she had to call on Sora's power to help her.
Agreed, but Honestly, I find that they had Sora literally replacing Kairi absolutely disgusting. If they wanted to show the connection between Sora and Kairi and that Kairi gets her strengh from Sora, they could of had an apperation of Sora appear behind her like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in KH re-mind DLC, but no, they literally robbed Kairi of a chance to develop as a charicter and face her feara head on
And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort alone. In my scenario she is still relying on support from Sora, just in a much less disrespectful manner,
I think the other side of our reality might be our world or the world of Venum Rex. Also, a Moana world could be a excellent idea, especially, since The Heart of Te Fiti could play a great role in future installments.
MOANA world is all i ask for Maui as a party member would be Dope
I don't know about MULTIPLE more S-E worlds but I think we'll at least see the TWEWY gang again.
Also your Mickey impression is flawless wtf lol
The reason they were able to get there while they were both awake is because the fairy godmother can go there considering that dreams are her specialty so the fairy godmother transfer the three of them there and that’s why they were able to get there no problem is because of her.
Well, that's the end of that. See you guys in 2022 for Kingdom Hearts IV news and announcements.
My predictions:
We’re gonna get three or four spin-off games going forward:
A) Riku looking for Sora. I think he’s gonna get an idea of how to get him back but then he’ll be attacked and overwhelmed by something or someone in Yozoras world. He’ll come back bloodied and battered with the necessary revelations to advance the plot and while he recovers the other two spin-offs take place.
B) Aqua and Kairi training. There’s still plenty of relatively easy to handle patches of darkness left behind. Kairi and Aqua can play clean up and have plenty of great character moments. Kairi can be greatly evolved and progressed as a fighter even more and even possibly get a new outfit going into KH4.
C) The least likely to happen, but I really want it to. Mickey. Scala Ad Caelum. The Fortellers. It’s literally setting up a “Jiraiya searching for Pain” type deal. Right as Mickey finds the info he needs the Fortellers are gonna show up and utterly destroy him. Before being defeated/killed/sealed/etc. he’s gonna scribble something down and give it to Pluto and then send him away with a star shard or somethin. Badass and tragic.
D) Verum Rex. Speaks for itself.
My thought on each of these
A):, I want it but fear we could end up playing as Sora while Riku bumbles around in cutscenes until Sora saves them both
B:) this needs to happen A.S.A.P
C:) sounds neat o
D): sure, but don't destroy the KH franchise in the process with Vs 13 2.0
Seriously, I’m still waiting for the day Kairi is on the same level of badass as she was on Dead Fantasy.
20:40 Uh, I believe the words you're looking for are "A dream is a wish that your heart make."
So, this unreality...what kinds of worlds do you think we'll see there? Game Central Station, perhaps? I feel like Hundred-Acre Wood might also have links to it - it IS a world inside of a storybook, after all.
It would make sense to finally go to Final Fantasy worlds in Riku's game. Think about it, we have been going to disney worlds and encountering Final Fantasy characters whose worlds fell to darkness, but even after restoring them in KH1 we never go to them and the characters don't return to their worlds. Were their hearts strong enough to carry them from the "Square Realm" to the "Disney Realm" passing through the final world as a way station and all were settled in Radiant Garden first then to Traverse Town when RG fell to darkness. One other thing i want to bring up is the names of the worlds: Radiant garden, Twilight Town, and Land of Departure; These worlds must have been created by the Dandelions that were able to escape the Keyblade War because of clues from the structures. Twilight Town has the mansion and we have noticed icons of the foretellers on pillars in the courtyard, twilight is also a word that signifies beginnings and endings. Radiant Garden , the castle in the center and the construction of the town is very similar in structure to Daybreak Town (daybreak also means twilight). Finally is Land of Departure, where Aqua, Ven, and Terra were trained. The structuring of LoD is also similar but more reminiscent of Scala ad Caelum. We learned that Scala is where worlds are formed and Keyblade Wielders were trained there so this could be another world that was created by the Dandelions or it already existed and they found themselves there.....
8:45
You thought it was Kairi
But it was actually me, *Sora*
Yeah everybody at square especially Kim was like, Psych!
I somehow knew it the whole time that she was going to be some sort of pond that started practically all of us in the first place against her own well! So by her saying she doesn’t remember like she did in kingdom hearts one she either got her memories of race or she could be like me blocking a whole mess of trauma out of her life only to have it come back in the end!
7:19 Speaking of Dark Road.... Episode 3: The Purpose of the Journey is out, did you react to it?
I don’t think Sora lost his powers rather he’s stuck on the other side and unlike Riku he doesn’t know of a gateway back to his world Luxord is implied to have given Sora the means to return.
Also regarding the sora riku thing- sora had ven and learned along thatnks to his heart, riku had xehanorts heart in him in 1 and learned from him. Kairi is also a princess of heart which means she needs to be 1000% certain of her abilities due to hiw valuable she is.
I feel exactly the way you do about Kairi’s role......so sad that she’s being left behind to train AGAIN
The only ones with any formal training as Keyblade warriors in general are Terra, Aqua, Ven and Mickey. Everyone else, except Kairi hasn't had any formal training till way later after they already have battle field experience. Roxas got his keyblade simply by being connected to Sora and he picked a keyblade up and had us fighting giant nobodies. I expected this game to be like this due to the way it was advertised, once Kairi comes back I hope she is stronger like she wants, and hopefully playable again due to them giving her such a unique moveset.
Indeed so
Having Sora outright replace Kairi was a disgusting move to make in my opinion, if they wanted to showcase Kairi's connection to Sora and that her strengh comes from Sora, they could of had a Sora apperation appear behind her and assist her just like when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in the Re:mind DLC, but no, they Rob Kairi of the chance to face her fears head on and potentally develop by having Sora steal the show.
And I'm not saying Kairi could beat Xehanort by herself, in my scenario, she would still have the aid of power drawn from Sora, but it would of portrayed it in a much less insulting manner
I find it interesting how when Kairi was fighting Xehanort at first he had the black coat I only remember him wearing that in BBS at the beginning of Vens story then he switches to himself without the black coat I wonder if they were trying to give us a clue as to when Xehanort had the knowledge he was giving Kairi
I reckon Fairy God Mother can come here so easily the same way Merlin can time travel: her canon power is related to dreams, and Chirithy said death and sleep are so close they sometimes cross over.
I think the girl is the Sora of that fictional world and venom Rex is Riku because they also show a boy with Red hair which has to be their Kairi
LOL Riku went alone he's like plus Sora and the other Square Enix characters are like "no Disney this time you're just along with the ride"
I like how everyone from the Kingdom Hearts fandom are united in wanting Kairi to get a proper game of her own
I really like the scene with Kairi and the memory Xehanort.
Kairi's moves were really cool. I don't care if she stayed behind to train with Aqua, because I have a very strong feeling that she'll join Riku before he even gets close to finding Sora. As Apprentice Xehanort said, that task is far from easy.
Also, Xehanort seemed like he was just toying with Kairi, just so they could bring the clue out into the open. Once he gets that confirmation, he is free to relay the clue to Kairi, so that she can find Sora.
Xehanort had literally nothing to lose, so he may as well have left Kairi with a parting gift, since she was not there to witness his surrender.
He's been dead for a year, and he still plans for every eventuality.
Exactly my thought! 😂
I said "Wait! He's going alone!? Are we gonna get a Riku Game Next!?" 😂
Riku really dipped on kairi to get his own game LOL
@@EdDaWiz Yeah! Pretty much! lol 😂
Kairi technically faught and beaten xehanort its just for some reason she transformed into Sora and we had to play as him instead. Which is stupid in my opinion.
Probably cementing the paupu exchange their hearts are one after all
@@joshz2491 yeah
Here are my thoughts, but be warned they are pretty vicious as this game angered me with it's story, more than KH3 even, and it covers my thoughts on what happened to Kairi
My overall thoughts:
I'm glad I brought MoM for the music and not the story, because what little there is is absolutely atroticus and highlights the series's biggest problems in a glaring way, the Kairi shading from Nomoura and the fact Nomoura seemingly just cannot write forwards, at all and develop the personalities of the charicters further, and this enraged me more than the mess that was KH3,
Kairi's treatment is once again disgusting, as while it's true this isn't a Kairi Game, she still gets shafted really hard here, bot only does she lose to Xehanort in the cutscene ((understandable to a degree, and she put up a great fight)) but she is LITERALLY replaced with Sora as she gets up for the final battle and you play the final battle as Sora, robbing Kairi of the chance to show her strengh and face her fears. They didn't need to have Sora outright replace Her, they could of just had an apperation of him materialize behind her, just like he did when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in RE:mind, doesn't help that KH3 turned Aqua into a punching bag and forced her to rely on Sora, I get that Sora is the main charicter, but come on, let the other charicters do something, especially Kairi. And I don't see much point in Kairi traning with Aqua, all the other promises of Kairi becoming stronger and helping have been nothing more than bait to entice us to buy the next game. She was put in the equivilant of the hyperbolic time chamber, and still came out almost useless, I don't see how traning with Aqua is going to help her.
And while this has been the case since the end of KH2, the fact Nomoura and co. Did effectively nothing with the charicters during the year they were searching for Sora kinda shows he cannot write forwards at all or develop the charicters or for some reason, doesn't want to, he only goes Backwards for the sake of twists and mysteries. As someone else said:
"Killed the bad guys of KH 1 and 2? Better Go back in time and make a bigger bad behind everything"
"Not enough charicters to fit arbitrary number requirements? We'll Go back in time and clone more Xehanorts and Soras,"
"Killed the organisation? Let's Go back in time and make them more relevant and revive them"
"Killed Xehanort? Let's back in time to make a bigger bad who orchestrated Xehanort orchestrating the entire thing"
And not only that, but they threw away several perfect opportunites to actually move forwards with the charicters here and develop their bonds of friendship...
I know they said there wouldn't be much story in MoM, but it would of been nIce to have had a cutscene after the recap of each game showing what the chairicters had been up to and how their relationships developed during the year Kairi was asleep, Especially the sea salt and wayfinder trio's who have been seperated apart for so long, I'd of loved to see if they had managed to reconnect and how their friendship developed as they searched for Sora. as well show and expand on their own attempts to find Sora opposed to the fairy god mother just coming in with a Deus ex machina exposition dump at the end about where Sora is and what they need to do. Rendering MDG's trips though the Disney worlds and TVA's trip though the realm of darkness a completly pointless waste of time and sad waste of potental to develop their bonds of friendship and basically kick them out of the plot again...
Shafting of Kairi and most of thr other gaurdians of lights, Nomoura's wasting opportunities to do charicter development by moving things forward via deus ex machina, promising Kairi will be stronger for the next gane.. all we need is a vauge and unexplained concept used for sequal bait and then that's everything wrong with the writing and series story together in one package in my opinion ((and we kinda have that with the whole unreality thing, how many alternate plains of existance do we need? We have light, dark, in between, nothingness, data, dream, unchained, sleeping and now fiction/ unreality))
The team should of put more effort into KH3 and ending the series there with MoM acting as a musical journey to round of the series, they should of just dropped the the fortellers, book of prophecies and MoM and kept them relevant to union X and dark road only. And instead just moved on to the FF Vs 13 2.0 they seem to desperately want to make instead instead of trying to turn kingdom hearts into Vs 13 2.0
And I want to add it's disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release
Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game!
Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something.
25:27 There's a photo of this moment right next to the word "disapointment" in the dictionary.
U right im gonna highlight it lol
Riku never needed training because his fighting prowess was known while controlled by Ansem as well as working with DiZ and Mickey while Sora DID get trained by both Leon on the basics and Yen Sid.
"Mickey doesn't have the answer to everything. He just got the money to pay them bills."
I always wondered how KAIRI CAN LITERALLY FLY IN THE FINAL WORLD.
WHY IS SHE NOT CONSIDERED STRONG ENOUGH WHEN SHE LEARNED TO GLIDE SO SOON??!!! AND SHE CAN DO THE SAME INFINITE GLIDE LIKE SORA AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT TAKES FOREVER TO LEARN HOW TO GLIDE IN KH(EXCEPT KH3 IM NOT SURE)
@@amiksa8789 She learned it during KH1. Remember she'd be chilling out in Tarzan's treehouse alongside you.
Here are my thoughts, but be warned they are pretty vicious as this game angered me with it's story, more than KH3 even
My overall thoughts:
I'm glad I brought MoM for the music and not the story, because what little there is is absolutely atroticus and highlights the series's biggest problems in a glaring way, the Kairi shading from Nomoura and the fact Nomoura seemingly just cannot write forwards, at all and develop the personalities of the charicters further, and this enraged me more than the mess that was KH3,
Kairi's treatment is once again disgusting, as while it's true this isn't a Kairi Game, she still gets shafted really hard here, bot only does she lose to Xehanort in the cutscene ((understandable to a degree, and she put up a great fight)) but she is LITERALLY replaced with Sora as she gets up for the final battle and you play the final battle as Sora, robbing Kairi of the chance to show her strengh and face her fears. They didn't need to have Sora outright replace Her, they could of just had an apperation of him materialize behind her, just like he did when Micky was shooting that giant keyhole in RE:mind, doesn't help that KH3 turned Aqua into a punching bag and forced her to rely on Sora, I get that Sora is the main charicter, but come on, let the other charicters do something, especially Kairi. And I don't see much point in Kairi traning with Aqua, all the other promises of Kairi becoming stronger and helping have been nothing more than bait to entice us to buy the next game. She was put in the equivilant of the hyperbolic time chamber, and still came out almost useless, I don't see how traning with Aqua is going to help her.
And while this has been the case since the end of KH2, the fact Nomoura and co. Did effectively nothing with the charicters during the year they were searching for Sora kinda shows he cannot write forwards at all or develop the charicters or for some reason, doesn't want to, he only goes Backwards for the sake of twists and mysteries. As someone else said:
"Killed the bad guys of KH 1 and 2? Better Go back in time and make a bigger bad behind everything"
"Not enough charicters to fit arbitrary number requirements? We'll Go back in time and clone more Xehanorts and Soras,"
"Killed the organisation? Let's Go back in time and make them more relevant and revive them"
"Killed Xehanort? Let's back in time to make a bigger bad who orchestrated Xehanort orchestrating the entire thing"
And not only that, but they threw away several perfect opportunites to actually move forwards with the charicters here and develop their bonds of friendship...
I know they said there wouldn't be much story in MoM, but it would of been nIce to have had a cutscene after the recap of each game showing what the chairicters had been up to and how their relationships developed during the year Kairi was asleep, Especially the sea salt and wayfinder trio's who have been seperated apart for so long, I'd of loved to see if they had managed to reconnect and how their friendship developed as they searched for Sora. as well show and expand on their own attempts to find Sora opposed to the fairy god mother just coming in with a Deus ex machina exposition dump at the end about where Sora is and what they need to do. Rendering MDG's trips though the Disney worlds and TVA's trip though the realm of darkness a completly pointless waste of time and sad waste of potental to develop their bonds of friendship and basically kick them out of the plot again...
Shafting of Kairi and most of thr other gaurdians of lights, Nomoura's wasting opportunities to do charicter development by moving things forward via deus ex machina, promising Kairi will be stronger for the next gane.. all we need is a vauge and unexplained concept used for sequal bait and then that's everything wrong with the writing and series story together in one package in my opinion ((and we kinda have that with the whole unreality thing, how many alternate plains of existance do we need? We have light, dark, in between, nothingness, data, dream, unchained, sleeping and now fiction/ unreality))
The team should of put more effort into KH3 and ending the series there with MoM acting as a musical journey to round of the series, they should of just dropped the the fortellers, book of prophecies and MoM and kept them relevant to union X and dark road only. And instead just moved on to the FF Vs 13 2.0 they seem to desperately want to make instead instead of trying to turn kingdom hearts into Vs 13 2.0
And I want to add it's disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release
Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game!
Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something.
I feel we could be getting 3 games in the future like one focuses on Riku in the realm of fiction, one tha focuses on Mickey in Scala Ad Caelum and one that focuses on Kairi's training with Aqua or we could get one big game combining all these things together
Now we need 1.5 and 2.5 on the go
Or else
Thats what ive been saying , Mainly for KH2 thats what everyone is gonna play lol
@@EdDaWiz But that Joshua Suh won’t leave my dream alone
If I told you that I already knew that the third key was the Nameless star?! LOL
I am proud of Kairi,do I wish she went with Riku yes but I accept her decision. Aqua is the perfect person for her to train under.
Master of Masters is gonna totally end up being Nomura isn't he XD
I have a feeling that the next game after this is Kh4 and just like how we first start with roxas in kh2 then Sora I think we will play as riku and then we play as sora in Kh4
at this point it looks like sora isnt gonna be benched even tho hes kinda dead lol
The frustration is real lol.
Nomura and Square Enix really want our money lmfao
it's disgusting how they've been baiting us with promises that Kairi will be useful.since KH 2 and then shafting her every single time, and using the same lie to hyper up every new release
Kairi has a keyblade now! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is traning under yen sid! Can't wait for her to be useful in the next game!
Kairi is in a secret world where time doesn't flow giving her unlimited time to train with Lea under Merlin, can't wait for her to be useful in the keyblade war and the next game!
Kairi will be traning under aqua, why should I beleave them Kairi will be useful when they've lied to us since KH2, they are just keeping Kiari weak so they can keep baiting us into buying future games in hopes she actually does something. Doesn't help that Aqua was a punching bag in kH3
I think I know how Fairy Godmother knows so much here...
She played Verum Rex.
A girl just picking flowers
Reminds me of Rose from dragon nest.
It just avalanches to a shit world of chaos
6:49 the mood change hahahahahahaha got me dyinngg
In the next game Riku and Sora will be close to die and Kairi come in the final battle like a badass and kill all the enemies.
We see Xehanort wearing the black coat in Birth By Sleep, when he brings Ventus to Destiny Islands to die.
Xenanort: Here's your answer
TH-cam: Here's an ad
dude, for the sence of the power Scale would have make no sence she defeats him, she is still in Training and actually did a very good job. I kinda see a bit like, is her mind so she imagines herself as Sora, as encouragement. She was fighting him but turn into Sora so give herself courage. But yeah, I would have like i dont know that she fights with both blades hers and Sora's, but i am actually okay with what we got, she proves have been pretty strong in a short time, after all she just got trained and directly got into a fight with actually keyblade masters and the organization. Curioud too see how she will be after training with Aqua.
Do you know this whole PTSD thing I actually was diagnosed with it earlier this year I always knew that I had it though from the time I was born all the way up to now and even up to still within my future, but nobody would listen to me until now but I am about to be 27 years old. They said that PTSD was just for war veterans a lot of people laughed at me but no someone finally get it too bad it’s almost 27 years too late wait! And it’s even getting worse I’m on a treatment for it but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still there, unfortunately I may be stuck with it for the rest of my life but even if I am, I’ve been through a lot worse and I am not gonna let anything stop me or get me down for that matter! People can try but ultimately no easily fail! In fact you know me, many people have tried and you also know about what happened to me when I first joined TH-cam in the first place let’s just say I’ve suffered at least six forms of abuse, physical, emotional, psychological, cyber, mental and also moral abuse is well. I know some people don’t think that morality can be abused but trust me when you were in my position be prepared to suffer a lot more than any kid should ever have had to of gone through! But I’m not saying it’s OK however I have been made into a stronger person for it so I guess that’s the bright side of it other than that I can’t really think of any other bright sides to being abused as bad as I have!
KH4 is Going To Be Just As Awesome As KH3 / ReMind 2022 KH4 God I Hope❗️❗️ºoº ºoº ºoº ºoº ºoº ºoº
I Pray
@@EdDaWiz Same My Brother Same
No it's most definitely the ancient keyblade Masters that he's talking about the ones who wear the cloaks and masks but what they don't know is luxu brought them back already that he's planning something in this reality why the Masters would Sora planning is in game in this unknown reality where Riku is headed
Kairi needs the most training out of everyone. She went to learn to summon and literally learn to keep the keyblade from dematerializing with lea. She didnt do any combat training with anyone who is a master or even well versed in being a weilder. It makes sense people for some reason just expected her to be on par with like ven sora and riku without acting training like they had
Kairi is KH2 strong. She needs to be KH3 strong. Got to earn that master title
I wanna see the days and bbs trio get another game while being able to use roxas with his dual wield
this sets up a kiari aqua game bro still hope
6:44 Low key kairi Was like this bitch did not just say that 😂😂 I honestly don't why i just do picture it in my head.!
Xehanort: For that reason, I shall give you the answer.
YT: Shows PS5 ad
So Sora's inside the PS 5!!! 😮😮😮😮
Hey Christopher Lloyd.
Took me 3 days to beat this game and I still have so much stuff to do I love the game even tho I suck 😂
We only saw master Xehanort in the organization outfit 1 other time.