JRE: You Gotta Be Willing TO BOMB To Really Write - Louis C.K & Joe Rogan
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- Louis C.K talks about how watching the new Beatles documentary helped inspire his new comedy speical with the idea of taking bad material and turning it into good material with time and effort working it out infront of crowds. Joe Rogan cringes at the idea of reliving and working on bad bits.
The Beatles Get Back docuseries is available on Disney Plus and it was directed and produced by Peter Jackson who also did Lord Of The Rings.
Louis C.K. was born on September 12, 1967 in Washington, District of Columbia, USA. He is a writer and producer, known for Louie (2010), American Hustle (2013) , Horace and Pete (2016). His newest movie he wrote, directed and starred in Fourth Of July (2022), available on his website.
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The only interviewer who asks the question AFTER the answer.
😂
🤣🤣🤣
I'm old enough to remember the Louis Ck is a redhead
You're 5?
I'm enough to know he's a Mexican
The Louis
Same
I'm old enough to know his last name is cieque but he thought people would have a hard time remembering or pronouncing that so he abbreviates it as C.K.
This is a master class on standup writing, amazing
I've always wondered where Louis CK got his ideas from. I wonder if they're from the same place where Super Dave got his ideas. Which of course was in the meat section of Ralphs on Beverly Drive.
did you just say that??
2:30
IMO, Will Franken is the US’s best comedian by a mile. If you haven’t heard him check him out.
I'm sorry to say but as much as I love everything that he's done, "Back to the garden" was incredibly boring, like surprisingly not funny. I guess he needs the break.
“I need to do it in front of an audience” LCK 😂
Haha 🤣
Louie's most fundamental truth
lol If you ever find a female who can actually improve your own jerk technique you know she has tugged A LOT of dicks. She is not a keeper. 😄
Lol
Lol didn't even think of that
Louis perfectly explains his writing process.
*straight after* Joe ~ "So what's your writing process like"
Classic roe jogan move. He's a bit killer Jones and too wealthy and stoned to really pay attention to anything
@@rockyevans1584 Indeed he is dude
@@matthewjamison having said that it's great hearing Louis talk for this long at once, he has been improving pretty damn steadily. I'm shocked by his earlier stuff, it's pretty fucking terrible when he was young haha
@@rockyevans1584 I know man. They say most stand-ups are dog shit for the first 5+ years. In Joe's case, 20+ years lol. I'd love to see his earlier stuff, just to cringe.
I was writing this same comment then I noticed yours. Rogan is a disgrace as an interviewer. Imagine giving a great answer like he did and find out he wasn't even fucking listening.
He really just layed out the blueprint. For pretty much everything, not just stand up
Exactly my friend
Preach
I love Louie C.K
I do too
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@@sparksdrinker5650 ur mom
Louis gave me more laughs than all the other comics combined
Easily one of the most talented people around
The reason why Louie is so good is because he works damn hard at it. Some folk think it just falls out of the sky and maybe one or two jokes do but most of it comes from hours of writing, hours of bombing and years of nervous exhaustion. The Beatles are the pinnacle of how hard work can payoff.
Yep and you can see it over time. You watch his early stuff and he wasnt very good. You see him on podcasts or talk shows and he's not that naturally funny. But his stand up had gotten better and better over time. He's figured it out. He is the best stand up comedian of all time in my opinion.
@@tonyg490 it's very true. He is a great writer. You can see it in the shows and movies her write. Even SNL
@@Boristheborat yeah I think CK is a comedic genius, along with Norm McDonald The most naturally funny comedians IMO are Patrice O'Neal, Dave Chappelle, and Bill Burr. It's obviously subjective and everybody has their own opinions but that's how I see it. Some comedians are just naturally hilarious out the gate like Chappelle, others like CK had to do a ton of work to figure out why they killed and why they bombed. In no order my top comedians are CK, Chappelle, O'Neal. McDonald, Carlin. Pryor. And Murphy. I'd like to include more but these guys are just a league above everybody else IMO.
Right.. Beatles killed themselves in the early days! 8 hour sets on speed in Germany.. things like that.. by the time Beatlemania hit.. they already put in so much work, gets overlooked bc of how big they got overnight once in the US
@@toneohm Exactly. Lennon & McCartney were in a band together for nine years before they became an "overnight success" in U.S.
Louis spends two minutes explaining his writing process.
Joe Rogan: So what’s your writing process?
When someone is hearing you, but not listening.
That's pot for ya
I saw Louis at the Hollywood Improv (must have been right before his HBO special), because he had his solid hour, there was no working on material that night. He absolutely killed, and I had tears of laughter and scream laughing. Best comedy show I've ever been to.
This is such powerful wisdom, so much bigger than just writing. You have to step outside your comfort zone in life and embrace the lessons from failure!
That little slip-up “I know when I have a thought.” Is actually the key to all great creativity. The awareness to recognize what you are thinking
It’s not what, but how you say it.
A thing worded clumsily will be rejected.
But tweak it & the key fits.
It's so true
Rogan is unbelievably dense. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd never heard of Let it Be
Or The Beatles
There’s a great TED Talk with Sir Ken Robinson “How Schools Kill Creativity” and in it he talks about kids and how even if they don’t know the answer, they’ll have a go at it.
That as an adult, while you can’t be wrong all the time in your job, if you don’t sometimes risk being wrong, that nothing new would ever be discovered.
I bombed for literally 2-3 years without ever having a good set and now I’m getting 20-30 minute spots booked monthly sometimes bi weekly and I don’t think that’s too bad for a hobbyist- you gotta start by doing it all wrong haha but just keep doing it until you’re actually good at it. Youre going to suck really bad but it’s ok
Are you doing the same set at these spots?
"I'd love to hear about Brenden Shwab's writing process..."
- Nobody ever
lol, funniest comment i've read in awhile, thanks!
Some say Joe Rogan is a comedian, but I've never herd anything that supports this claim.
He's not very funny.
He copies too much of Sam Kennisons energy it's a turn off
If you go looking, theres some insightful laughs from him.
He's humped a stool a few times that's quirky
😂😂😂
I love hearing about his creative process
The revelation of watching The Beatles craft the songs I've been listening to my entire life, was almost shocking.
You expected a different process?
@@kingstarscream320 yes. Their earlier compositions were created very differently.
@@FatNorthernBigot I missed that context. Thanks.
@@kingstarscream320 no worries.
@@FatNorthernBigot how was it done different?
I think "how creative people create" is one of the most interesting topics there is.
The Chris Rock comment bothered me. None of these guys, including Rogan's circle of comic friends, would help a struggling comic develop a joke or set of jokes. They would all say, in one way or another, "Screw you. No one helped me. Figure it out or get out of the business". Comics don't help each other in that way unless they're paid to do so. Even then, the comic performing the written material loses respect because they had to rely on someone else's material. The only time it is acceptable to do this is for awards shows. Every host, comic or not, uses writers, and everyone wants Chris Rock or whomever to perform their joke at the Oscars.
Joe does not know who Peter Jackson is
Louis C.K.: explains his entire writing process in extreme detail
Joe: what's your writing process?
😄
I've been asked about screenwriting (I wrote sketches in Philly and then wrote a few feature length screenplays) and some people would say, "I just don't want it to suck," so I'd say, "Of course it's going to suck, that's why it's called a first draft." I always say write for yourself, edit for your audience.
Funny thing is, I’ve never heard Rogan say something really funny. Ever.
Ever. He is good at alot of things, but he is NOT good at comedy. Everything about it is cringey...
He can't seem to let it go though.
Louie is great, great mind. Perv, sure. But great mind
Louis did Sorry which was him at his best, in the range of a lesser Carlin as far as taking it as far as possible. He is amongst of the last of honest comedians who dare be offensive.
Really? There's so many comedians who push the offensive button, just Louis does in a way where you feel he understand the suffering of a human being to be able to make fun of it. Have you seen Stewart Lee? UK's finest stand up comedian!
Who is that on the side talking --- don't talk.
when will all the comedians hold an intervention with joe about how he's not funny
It really astounds me that early Louis stand up material from his 20s was mediocre at best, and today he is literally the funniest human being on the planet earth.
Not really he peaked around 2012 or so.
Thats what deciding to just keep grinding like the terminator gets you. You just keep getting better and better and eventually pass genetic freaks like Eddie Murphy. It happens in all vocations
Some of his early stuff did have a hint of 'louis' to them, but you can really tell he wasn't comfortable and he didn't really know how to approach a lot of his jokes at first
If anyone spends 20 years working at a career and they get worse at it they are the very definition of ‘absolute failure’
We want another hour Louie.
Dance, monkey, dance!
Joe: "The Beatles? Who are they again?"
If you consider yourself some sort of artist you should watch that Beatles program Louis was talking about. You will see their genius but also a lot of play time and hard work.
"I need to do it infront of an audience"
Its sad that my brain still thinks this is hillarious. I dont recon it will ever go away.
Lol Louis and Joe talking about comedy is so awkward. Louis is a comedic genius and Joe is a total buffoon at cawlmedy
Everyone in Joe’s audiences go to see him once cuz of the podcast, or cuz their girlfriends bought them tickets for their birthday. Not because Joe is funny.
"You gotta be willing to bomb"
Ted Kaczynski: 😁
"To Really Write"
Ted Kaczynski: 😝
O.K. "glass ceiling" to how much you're going to kill around Europe may not be about language comprehension.
It's just that "Western" audiences inexplicably act like they have never heard a joke after every comedian's sentence. And that is weird by itself. Do those people who go to show tapings have no sense of humour, or friends, or friends with a sense of humour? Comedians have craft which you can respect and enjoy at the show. It's cool. But I can't imagine having reactions like I see on vids if you have original humour daily in your life.
O.K. "glass ceiling" to how much you're going to kill around Europe may not be about language comprehension.
It's just that "Western" audiences inexplicably act like they have never heard a joke after every comedian's sentence. And that is weird by itself. Do those people who go to show tapings have no sense of humour, or friends, or friends with a sense of humour? Comedians have craft which you can respect and enjoy at the show. It's cool. But I can't imagine having reactions like I see on vids if you have original humour daily in your life.
Just completely wasted on Joe's ears. Why even bother telling Joe Rogan anything about standup?
Joe Rogan showing his lack of connectedness to the broader community but not knowing about the "Get Back" doco on the Beatles......JR you sit with some of the most informed individuals in current culture and you demonstrate time again that you're such a wanna be.
Well, Joe is good at the bombing part. Maybe the good writing is just around the corner.
Not too many things more boring than a comedian blabbing about their 'process'...zzz
Get Back is not on AppleTV, it's on Disney+!
Who’s that lucky, lucky guy that Louis CK happened to pick
anyone tired yet of podcasts where comedians talk about being comedians?
Louis is such an awesome story teller. Long live King Louis!!!
Louis is such an awesome story teller. Long live King Louis!!!
Hell yea Ted Kaczynski knows what he's talking about.
I'm surprised Joe even knows who the Beatles are.
Jamie, bring up the Beatles.
The Beatles did DMT (or at least Paul did, so in a way Paul really did die), I know it's played out at this point but I feel like that would be on Joe's radar for good reason.
You mean, The biggest band of all time? Yeah, me too
I would be shocked if he didn’t
@@newusernamehere4772 Paul did DMT once but took LSD fewer than the other 3. He was actually the last one of them to take it. Almost a year after John and George had first taken it. Paul even decided to not take it the day Ringo first took it with John, George, Crosby, McGuinn and Peter Fonda. John took hundreds of trips as did George even though he stopped taking it forever after two years. John was still taking mushrooms and peyote in the when he was in his late 30’s, obviously before he was murdered after just turning 40.
Joe forgot he wasn't on Jeopardy, for a second.
Louie is so so smart.
Louie explaining to Joe how a comedian writes an hour haha then Joe asking him “how do you write”
Joe List the content king
Kept thinking he’s going to burn his fingers!!
Louie: *explains how he writes his material in detail for two minutes straight*
Joe: “so what’s your writing process?”
Htf is Ringo more famous than George?
He's the fun outgoing one
Probz cuz he has a funny name and gets undeservedly shit on all the time by no-nothings
In my experience as a standup the hardest part of this strategy is being willing to bomb in front of other comics. Because there's nothing comedians love more than talking shit about how so and so and this and that did badly the other night.
But of course, once you start actually breaking through and making waves then they all suddenly fawn over you (or at least continue talking shit, but not to your face). So yeah, it takes guts but it's worth it.
G.O.A.T
I think Louis is a good example of why Joes stand up just isn’t that good.
Louis avoids pen to paper type writing, he forms everything on stage so it’s straight from brain to audience.
Where Joe writes EVERYTHING. So it comes out too writerish. Like Louis said, it goes from your mind, to your hand, to the pen, then to paper, to your eyes, back to brain, THEN to the audience. Just too many filters, and you can tell when you watch Joe’s comedy. It’s just so rehearsed and whittled down.
I have a bit about when I was on meth,
I sound like a tweaker but you gotta remember I NEVER LEFT THAT PEEPHOLE, I didn’t miss anything.
There’s more to it😂 that’s the base of it, my family hates it, I was calling them telling them the police were comin to get me, they were🤣🤣
I didn’t get bits a pieces from the peephole, I was glued to that mf for 3 days without sitting down, I could tell who was watching my motel room.
I have a folder of all my sub par songs I write, for every 5 songs I write maybe 1 or 2 are amazing, I don't fuck with songs I don't love.
Loui is a creep!
If you never heard either of their stand up, then watched this interview, you could guess which one kills and which one isnt even marginal
they both need to go away
has Joe rogan been living in a cave? how do you not know about the Peter Jackson "get back" release? Joe?
Mediocre band.
So intense. Louie is a master.
Louie on EDITING (his greatest bits started out as his
worst ideas in his own opinion). 3:30
why write when you can build an entire career off of crowd work? just look at schulz
Everyone calling messi the goat but I think it's Louis ck
The cigar alternates between tobacco and marijuana rotflmfao
Comedians always say that rule number 1 of comedy is to not play to the back of the room. I'm not a professional but I disagree with that. The real first rule, as Gilbert Gottfried taught me, is to not be afraid to bomb. Which is why he likely did the best telling of a joke in human history. It's too bad that we only have snippets of video and audio of it. If you're curious as to the joke just look up the documentary The Aristocrats.
“I know when i have a thought” - louis ck
(Louie tells his entire writing process to joe)
Joe: and so what’s your writing process like?
Lol
Louie had to Tweak every Element of Louie's game
(at 1:40)
Who else was cringing to see when Louis was gonna take a puff or light out his cigarette lol
Joe probably wonders why no stand-up has ever asked him to play audience and give notes. But WE know why.
Get Back is on Disney+, not Apple TV, in case anyone goes looking for it after this.
He is a comedian, but on this show it is more about the guests, so he is primarily trying to be a good interviewer.
I can’t say that his stand-up is in my top 20 but i do like him
And fwiw i think he is usually an excellent interviewer asking insightful questions and letting the guests shine
I Don’t Give a Fuck What GOD Sez, Louis C.K’s Living Legend.
personally i think the beatles music is pretty good and also the after the beatles
I watched this entire episode when it came out and completely forgot Joe List was in the room until 5:01
im newbie in your chanel done watching
Jo Rogan is not a comedian, nor is he funny
Oh man feminist are burning right seeing him made his come back 😂😂
Good advice.
It's interesting that he says not everybody understands English in the European crowds. I mean why would you go the Louis CK show if you didn't understand what he's talking about?
lol. I guess he doesn't mean they have no clue what he is saying, but some subtleties. Also sometimes, you understand the word, but not the joke, because cultural issues. These can happen a little, yet overall still enjoy the show, still wanna get the ticket
It’s bc jokes rely really heavily on tonal expression and timing. And all comedy comes from a place of either irony or hyperbole (the contrasting of events or opinions against societal norms - or the exaggeration of events or opinions in contrast to societal norms). And irony and hyperbole are really hard to catch if English isn’t your first language because your conscious brain wants to translate the words literally. So the European crowds are probably a bit weird because some of the crowd are gonna have punchlines go over their heads or maybe miss some of the subtleties in the punchlines and it would throw off his rhythm for applause breaks and shit like that. I think that’s probably what he meant.
@@bennetcatchpole Yep, you are probably right. However I as a Hungarian would like to go to one is shows exactly because I watched all of his videos and (I think) I understand those subtleties that you're talking about. Maybe those shared Hungarian genes help a bit :). The point is, I wouldn't want to see him live if I didn't find him a genius based on his videos. Anyway, you get my point. Thanks for your answer.
I can smell this video and it’s not good.
Another clip of joe talking the business of show. So insightful
I hope Louis makes Louie again
It sounds honorable, but what about the crowd. 20 minutes of great material and then just not using it because people would enjoy it too much? Imagine making a great meal and choosing to stop serving it because it's too good.
It's like a chef trying to create the perfect three course meal and nailing the starter and instead of trying out mains just keeps serving the starter because they know the diners will enjoy it.
Boomers worship The Beatles lmao
speical? wtf is a speical? is that like a breed of muppets or something?
A comedy special a filmed stand up comedy set
Ahhh such a pleasure to watch this
Writing isn't easy, pros like Louie CK, work hard to pull jokes out of thin air, they pull and pull, constanting jerking jokes until it all comes together. He could even be in his apartment with guests over, when the urge strikes the man will just go to town writing comedy, pulling and pulling for the love of the game. Legend!